Postal Address: ACGQ. Inc. P.O. Box 248, Alderley Qld 4051.You can fi nd us at: acgq.inc@hotmail.comwww.acgq.org.au

~ June 2009 ~

Arms Collectors GuildOf Queensland inc.

Approved Historical Society # 49000 003

Meeting Monthly at the QLD RIFLE ASSOCIATIONin the BELMONT SPORTING COMPLEX

OLD CLEVELAND ROAD.Second Tuesday of the Month at 7.30pm.

Next meeting is on Tuesday, 9th June, 2009.Members and Visitors are welcome.

This meeting will feature talks by members who will demonstrateand discuss items of interest. Refreshments are served.

Contents of this Journal.The Committee Members / Contact Details on Inside of Cover.Presidents Report - June 2009.Minutes of General Meeting May 2009.Other Prominent Mauser ArmsErwin Rommel (continued from May Newsletter)A History LessonDavid Beatty - 1st Earl BeattyLebel Model 1886 Rifl ePopcornNiobiumBrisbane Gun Show Display25 Years Murder-Free in Gun Town USAFor Sale Cannon Black Powder 50mm BoreBook Review - 20mm Suomessa

The JournalA.C.G.Q.

INC.

The ACGQ Committee for 2009

President and Membership Offi cer: Darryl Noe PO Box 771 Nanango Q 4615Mobile: 0403 212 545 A/H Phone: 4163 1945 Fax: 4163 1980E-Mail: triumph120@hotmail.comVice President: Scott Lynch PO Box 4458 Loganholme DC Q 4129Mobile: 0439 757 148Secretary: Mr Ian Davis PO Box 248 Alderley Q 4051Mobile (Business Hours Only): 0433 110 098 Fax: 3264 4577 E-Mail: acgq.inc@hotmail.com

Historical Society Rep: Mr Ian Davis Mobile: 0433 110 098 E- Mail: acgq.rep@e-safemail.com (Business Hours Only)

Treasurer: Dick Banks GPO Box 3148 Brisbane Q 4001 Phone: 3254 0973Assistant Treasurer: Robert Schuss Phone: 3888 8370 Mobile: 0411 634 188Assistant Secretary / Committee: Lewin Partridge PO Box 646 Everton Park Q 4053Phone: 3353 4448Guild Armourer / Committee: Brian Kelly C/o Shed 11, 547 Kessels Rd Macgregor Q 4108Mobile: 0438 468 313Moreton Regiment Staff / Committee: Scott Reading Mobile: 0438 787 159

WLB Regulations / Committee: Robert Hughes Mobile: 0417 628 213

Committee Member: Phil Kraut Mobile: 0417 644 627

Journal and Website Editor: PRESIDENT DARRYL NOE

ANNUAL SUBSCRIPTIONS: Ordinary Members - $70. Overseas Members - $85.JOINING FEE: $20 W/ Badge or Patch & Constitution - As of 03/03/2009.

The aims of the Arms Collectors Guild of Qld Inc are: To further the interests of collectors of arms, ammunition and associated accoutrements and militaria.

To represent members interests to offi cialdom and government instrumentalities.

To promote better understanding of the hobby to the public and to governments.

To assist historical research and the preservation of arms and militaria, especially heritage items.

The ARMS COLLECTORS GUILD OF QUEENSLAND INC. is registered as an incorporated body in Queensland as per State Government provisions.

Presidents Report - June 2009Good Morning Members,Well the month has almost gone, and the monthly meetings are a success with the Barbecue now starting the proceedings. This has been a big improvement on the social outcome. Nothing like chewing the fat around the campfi re.The Show and Tell part of the meeting is improving, we will put this segment before the General Business - this will give us a subject to talk about.The Guild Tables at the last Gun Show held in Brisbane were well manned, many thanks troops.Also the Guild Logo was well displayed. The next Gun Show is the Arms and Collectables Fair at Gympie - 20 - 21st June. All hand on deck please and make it a two day event. The Saturday night meal is worth its weight in gold, plus it is a social event, so lets make a weekend of it. ( Time to chat as there is always things to distract you during the day at the gun shows.) Remember: 20th - 21st June, Gympie. Follow the signs displayed around Gympie. To all our Mem-bers who are not on the Well (Healthy) List, we the membership as a whole are thinking of you. God Bless and hope you get back to full strength very soon.The AGM will be held at Belmont August 18th, we need to have 22 bodies to get things started, and yes we will feed you fi rst, no it is not a bribe, (smiles all round). The BBQ - you may bring something to cook or a cold plate, with you, it will help us to get to know each other better. Our May meeting had two guests, friends of mine that were introduced as bikes!! Well a few stepped back, but one brave soul stepped forward and asked is it bikes or biker. To which replied Mo-torcycle Enthusiasts Classical Bikes and all was well with the world. Please forgive my sense of humour but in this job laughter is hard to fi nd - Doom and Gloom, and an almighty witch hunt. In fact you can call the Weapons Licence Programme a witch hunt on the 21st Cen-tury, if you are a clean skin, no conviction and you have a Licence, and it is hell bent attack on us to convict us of something. Well folks, it has been done before, the result!! There is no witches and a lot of people died, a lot of people were convicted for small drummed up of-fences and transported to NSW as convicts! So when we are con

victed on mass for one mistake where will we be sent to? Well New Zealand is close and so far they have not stuffed up their Gun Laws, but sadly the beer is not as good there.

Best of Luck President Darryl.

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Wear a Guild Shirt to a Brisbane Gunshow & get a $5.00 Refund on your AdmissionAll Goods: Plus Postage and Handling from P.O. Box 771, Nanango Qld 4615

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Minutes of the ACGQ Inc. General MeetingHeld at the QRA Rooms, Belmont

On Tuesday, 12th May 2009

Minutes of the May Meeting will be held over till the next Newsletter, this is due to a malfunction in the computers we have been using. The computer goes down, the fax wont work, and maybe some of us do not have a slate or pencil, nor pen and ink.

The meeting started, 2 guests were introduced, they are licensed shooters, minutes were read and passed. The fi nancial report was read, moved by Dick and passed. General Business - Gun Show Tables hired and displays organised, show and tell by John. Bless this man and much merriment. Meeting closed and we all stood around and talked til late in the night. The president got to leave the complex at 1:30am, hotly pursued by the vice president.

A good time was had by all.

Report by Darryl Noe Editor

Infanterie greift an (Infantry Attacks), published in 1937, became a highly regarded military textbook, and attracted the atten-tion of Adolf Hitler, who placed him in charge of the War Ministry liaison with the Hitler Jugend's (Hitler Youth), Headquarters of Military Sports, the Hitler Jugend branch involved with paramilitary activities, primarily terrain exercises and marksmanship. Rommel applied himself energetically to the new task. The army provided instructors to the Hitler Jugend Rifl e School in Thu-ringia, which in turn supplied qualifi ed instructors to the HJ's regional branches.

In 1937, Rommel conducted a tour of HJ meetings and encampments, and delivered lectures on German soldiering while inspecting facilities and exercises. Simultaneously he was pressuring Baldur von Schirach, the Hitler Jugend leader, to accept an agreement expanding the army's involvement in Hitler Jugend training. Schirach interpreted this as a bid to turn the Hitler Jugend into an army auxiliary, a "junior army," in his words. He refused, and denied Rommel, whom he had come to dislike personally, apparently out of envy for his "real soldier"'s appeal to the youngsters, access to the Hitler Jugend. An army-Hitler Jugend agreement was concluded, but on a far more limited scope than Rommel had sought; cooperation was restricted to the army providing personnel to the Rifl e School, much to the army's chagrin. By 1939, the Hitler Jugend had 20,000 rifl e instruc-tors. Simultaneously, Rommel retained his place at Potsdam. In his class, Rommel was awarded the highest war ribbons for excellent performance.

In 1938, Rommel, now a colonel, was appointed Kommandant (commander) of the War Academy at Wiener Neustadt (There-sian Military Academy). Here he started his follow-up to Infantry Attacks, Panzer greift an (Tank Attacks, sometimes translated as The Tank In Attack). Rommel was removed after a short time however, to take command of Adolf Hitler's personal protection battalion (FhrerBegleitbataillon), assigned to protect him in the special railway train (Fhrersonderzug) used during his visits to occupied Czechoslovakia and Memel. It was at this period that he met and befriended Joseph Goebbels, the Reich's minister of propaganda. Goebbels became a fervent admirer of Rommel and later ensured that Rommel's exploits were celebrated in the media.

World War IIPoland 1939Rommel continued as Fhrerbegleitbataillon commander during the Polish campaign, often moving up close to the front in the Fhrersonderzug, and seeing much of Hitler. After the Polish defeat, Rommel returned to Berlin to organize the Fhrers victory parade, taking part himself as a member of Hitlers entourage. During the Polish campaign Rommel was asked to intervene on behalf of one of his wifes relatives, a Polish priest who had been arrested. He has been criticised[citation needed] for not doing enough on the mans behalf, though he did apply to the Gestapo for information, only to be, inevitably, brushed off with the reply that no information on the man existed.

France 1940Panzer commander Rommel asked Hitler for command of a panzer division and, on 6 February 1940, only three months before the invasion, Rommel was given command of the 7.Panzer-Division, for Fall Gelb (Case Yellow), the invasion of France and the Low Countries. They were also known as the Ghost Division because of their constant unexpected attacks. This string-pulling provoked resentment among fellow offi cers. The Chief of Army Personnel had rejected Rommels request on the grounds of him having no experience with armour, instead suggesting he was more suitable for commanding a mountain division lacking a commander.[4] Rommel had, however, emphasized the use of mobile infantry, and had come to recognize the great usefulness of armoured forces in Poland. He set about adapting himself and learning the techniques of armoured warfare rapidly and with great enthusiasm.[5]

Invasion of FranceOn 10 May 1940 a part of XV Corps under General Hoth, advanced into Belgium to proceed to the Meuse river near the Wal-loon municipality of Dinant. At the Meuse 7th Panzer was held up due to the bridge having been destroyed and determined sniper and artillery fi re from the Belgian defenders. The Germans lacked smoke grenades so Rommel, having assumed personal command of the crossing, ordered a few nearby houses to be set on fi re to conceal the attack. The German Panzer-grenadiers crossed the river in rubber boats, with Rommel leading the second wave.[6] The Division dashed further inland,

Erwin Rommel(Continued from May Newsletter)

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always spurred on by Rommel, and far in front of any friendly forces.Rommels technique of pushing forward boldly, ignoring risks to his fl anks and rear and relying on the shock to enemy morale to hinder attacks on his vulnerable fl anks, paid large dividends during his rapid march across France.[7] When encountering resistance, Rommel would simply order his tanks forward, all guns blazing, relying on the shock of the sudden assault to force the enemy to surrender. This method offset the disadvantage the German tanks had in terms of armour and low-calibre guns, often causing large formations of enemy heavy tanks to simply give up a fi ght they would otherwise have had a good chance of winning.[8] This approach, although it saved lives on both sides by avoiding prolonged engagements, did cause mishaps. On one occasion his tanks, following this tactic, closed with a convoy of French trucks and fi red into them only to realise that the trucks were acting as ambulances ferrying wounded from the front.[8]

Battle of ArrasBy 18 May the Division had captured Cambrai but here Rommels advance was checked briefl y. His Chief of Staff, still with the unmotorized part of the Division in Belgium and not having received radio reports from Rommel, had written off Rommel and his combat group as lost and so had not arranged for fuel to be sent up.[9] There was a degree of controversy over this issue with Rommel furious with what he perceived as a negligent attitude on the part of his supply offi cers, whereas his Chief of Staff was critical of Rommels failure to keep his staff offi cers up to speed on his actions.On 20 May Rommels tanks reached Arras. Here he wanted to cut off the British Expeditionary Force from the coast and Hans von Luck, commanding the reconnaissance battalion of the Division, was tasked with forcing a crossing over the La Basse canals near the city. Supported by Stuka dive bombers, the unit managed to force a crossing. The British launched a counterattack (the Battle of Arras) on 21 May with Matilda tanks, and the Germans found their 3.7 cm guns useless against the heavy armour. A battery of 88 mm guns had to be brought up to deal with the threat, with Rommel personally directing the fi re.After Arras, Hitler ordered his tanks to hold their positions, while the British, in Operation Dynamo, evacuated their troops at Dunkirk and the 7th Panzer Division was given a few days of much needed rest. On 26 May 7 Panzer continued its advance and it reached Lille on 27 May. For the assault on the town, General Hoth placed his other tank division, 5th Panzer Division under Rommels command to the chagrin of its commander, General Max von Hartlieb.[10] The same day Rommel received news that he had been awarded the Knights Cross of the Iron Cross, the fi rst divisional commander to be so honoured during the campaign. This award, which had been secured for Rommel at Hitlers behest, caused more animosity among fellow offi cers who were critical of Rommels close relationship with Hitler. They believed that this was further evidence that Hitler seemed to give Rommel preferential treatment.[10]Rommel in the Western Europe campaign (June 1940)On 28 May, while making the fi nal push into Lille, and far in front of friendly forces, 7th Panzer came under heavy fi re from French artillery. Rommel drove his forces on, capturing Lille,trapping half of the French First Army and preventing their retreat to Dunkirk. After this coup, Rommels forces were again given time to rest.

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~ NIOBIUM ~

BRISBANE GUN SHOW - MAY 2009

Manning the ACG table on Saturday was carried out by Scott, Bob, Tony & John, with the Secretary and couple of others paying a visit. Sunday just Scott & John.

25 YEARS MURDER-FREE IN GUN TOWN USAAs the nation debates whether more guns or fewer can prevent tragedies like the Virginia Tech Massacre, a notable anniversary passed last month in a Georgia town that witnessed a dramatic plunge in crime and violence after mandating residents to own fi rearms.

In March 1982, 27 years ago, the small town of Kennesaw - responding to a handgun ban in Morton Grove, I11. - unanimously passed an ordinance requiring each head of household to own and maintain a gun. Since then, despite dire predictions of Wild West showdowns and increased violence and accidents, not a single resident has been involved in a fatal shooting - as a victim, attacker or defender.

The crime rate initially plummeted for several years after the passage of the ordinance, with the 2005 per capita crime rate actually signifi cantly lower than it was in 1981, the year before passage of the law.

Prior to enactment of the law, Kennesaw had a population of just 5,242 but a crime rate signifi cantly higher (4,332 per 100,000) than the national average (3,899 per 100,000). The latest statistics available - for the year 2005 - show the rate at 2,027 per 100,000. Meanwhile, the population has skyrocketed to 28,189.

By comparison, the population of Morton Grove, the fi rst city in Illinois to adopt a gun ban for anyone other than the police offi cers, has actually dropped slightly and stands at 22,202, according to 2005 statistics. More signifi cantly, perhaps, the citys crime rate increased by 15.7 percent immediately after the gun ban, even though the overall crime rate in Cook County rose only 3 percent. Today, by comparison, the townships crime rate stands at 2,268 per 100,000.

This was not what some predicted.

In a column titled Gun Town USA, Art Buchwald suggested Kennesaw would soon become a place where routine disagreements between neighbours would be settled in shootouts. The Washington Post mocked Kennesaw as the brave little city... soon to be pistol-packing capital of the world. Phil Donahue invited the mayor on his show.

Reuters, the European news service, today revisited the Kennesaw controvers following the Virginia Tech Massacre.

Police Lt. Craig Graydon said: When the Kennesaw law was passed in 1982 there was a substantial drop in crime... and we have maintained a really low crime rate since then. We are sure it is one of the lowest (crime) towns in the metro area. Kennesaw just north of Atlanta.

The Reuters story went on to report: Since the Virginia Tech shootings, some conservative U.S. talk show hosts have rejected attempts to link the massacre to the availability of guns, arguing that had students been allowed to carry weapons on campus someone might have been able to shoot the killer.

Virginia Tech, like many of the nations schools and college campuses, is a so-called gun-free sone, which Second Ammendment supporters say invites gun violence - especially from disturbed individuals seeking to kill as many victims as possible.

Cho Seung-Hui murdered 32 and wounded another 15 before turning his gun on himself.

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Standard A Cat fi rearms licensing rules apply. License must be sighted and I will also record purchasers details.

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