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 Consciousness vs. Brain - Dialogue with a Child This is the dia logu e with a child who see ms to hav e been born wit h a strong sattvic pred isposition. T he child is nine years old. The book is “Proo f of h eaven” by Dr. Eben Alexander. Dr. Alexander is the autho r of the autobiographical book Proof of Heaven: A Neurosurgeon’s Journey into the Afterlife (2012) in which he asserts that his out of body and near death experience (NDE) while in a meningitis-induced coma in 2008 proves that c onsciousness is independent of the brain, that death is an illusion The child has not rea d or does not kno w anything about its content. Child: What is th is book ab out tha t you have bo ught as a present for your friend? Adult: It is a book a about a n eurosurgeon, a doctor, who had a disease where his brain was da maged bu t he had an extraordina ry experie nce durin g that time. Child: So his brain was not functioning? Adult: No h is b rain was comp letely shut down but he s till had an incred ible experience during the time his brain was not functioning. Child: So did he fantasize that experience? Adult: No his brain was not functioning at all. So his brain could have not fantasized that. Child: Yeah makes sense. Adult: So there must h ave been some thi ng els e the re. Act uall y it is an ol d argument and fig ht amon g the sc ientists: “Was the brain there before consciousness and consciousness was b orn out o f t he brain or was consciousness there before and the brain was born later out ofconsciousness. Child: Why shou ld the brai n be there befo re consciousn ess? Th at does not make an y sense. The se scien tists don’t se em to under stand . Adult: Why do you say that?

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  • Consciousness vs. Brain - Dialogue with a ChildThis is the dialogue with a child who seems to have been born with a strongsattvic predisposition. The child is nine years old. The book is Proof of heavenby Dr. Eben Alexander. Dr. Alexander is the author of the autobiographical bookProof of Heaven: A Neurosurgeons Journey into the Afterlife (2012) in which heasserts that his out of body and near death experience (NDE) while in ameningitis-induced coma in 2008 proves that consciousness is independent ofthe brain, that death is an illusion The child has not read or does not knowanything about its content.Child: What is this book about that you have bought as a present for yourfriend?Adult: It is a book a about a neurosurgeon, a doctor, who had a disease wherehis brain was damaged but he had an extraordinary experience during thattime.Child: So his brain was not functioning?Adult: No his brain was completely shut down but he still had an incredibleexperience during the time his brain was not functioning.Child: So did he fantasize that experience?Adult: No his brain was not functioning at all. So his brain could have notfantasized that.Child: Yeah makes sense.Adult: So there must have been something else there. Actually it is an oldargument and fight among the scientists: Was the brain there beforeconsciousness and consciousness was born out of the brain or wasconsciousness there before and the brain was born later out of consciousness.Child: Why should the brain be there before consciousness? That does notmake any sense. These scientists dont seem to understand.Adult:Why do you say that?

  • Child: A brain without consciousness does not make any sense. What should itwork on? Consciousness without a brain however does make some sense. Nota lot but at least a little.Adult:What do you mean?Child: Well, consciousness without a brain would not know if it would stand orwalk or do anything. Actually it would not even know if it would know or notknow. But at least it would be aware. But a brain without consciousness doesnot make any sense at all. What meaningful function should a brain have ifthere is no consciousness? It is rubbish. So it can only have come afterconsciousness.Adult: Yeah seems to make sense.