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Sales Culture and Systems and Controlsin Retail Division
GRR Review commissioned by the Board
Aide memoire for early discussion with Andy Hornby
11th June
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Contents
Important preliminary remarks
Our terms of reference
The work we have done to date and the work we still have to do
Key preliminary findings
Some important observations made during our review
Next steps
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Important preliminary remarks
The review is still underway and we have not yet undertaken the process of assessing and concluding on
the significant amounts of information and evidence that we have obtained. The comments made in this
document are preliminary findings only. However, we are confident of them even at this early stage
It is very clear from the discussions we have had with the senior management team that everyone is
taking the matter of risk and systems and controls very seriously and making progress.
Lets not forget, it has been an enormous business achievement to change the culture in Retail to focus
on marketing and sales. Some of our findings are just part and parcel of the next steps in the natural
evolution and growth of the organisation. We must not “kill the goose that laid the golden egg”
But there are important lessons to be learnt from the review which apply to both Retail and the
Group Oversight functions …..but the whole organisation has some accountability.
The way in which the findings of the work are communicated and agreed will be very important, and
their communication to the FSA vital. The focus should be on the future and what is being done, rather
than dwelling on the past forcing a detailed expose of substantive evidential material to justify each
conclusion that has been drawn. This could kill the goose that laid the golden egg.
There are great benefits to be had by executing the change well – and vice versa.
We genuinely understand that the review may have added to tensions and relationship challenges
between GRR and Retail. We see the way in which the findings of the review are communicated to
Retail, together with the way in which we work with Retail in addressing any actions arising as being key
to developing this relationship.
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Our terms of reference
To remind ourselves, the fundamental objective of the review was to
enable the team to provide a formal assessment of:-
“…whether the risks to customers and the wider prudential and regulatory
risk associated with the marketing and distribution of financial products by
HBOS’s Retail Division are being managed in a control / governance
framework and cultural environment which will ensure that the key risks are
identified, assessed and mitigated in manner which will meet the key FSA
and HBOS’s requirements and policies.”
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The work we have done and have to do
We have carried out the following work:-
Thirty or more management interviews
23 Branch visits – 2 cancellations
7 Focus Groups
We have seen 125 customer facing colleagues
Approx 1.5m of paperwork!!
Two contact centres
2 Bosis Branch visits
Work still to do:-
3 Bosis
A few interviews or follow ups
Evidence marshalling and analysis
Report writing
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Preliminary findings
Everyone appears to agree that the focus on sales culture has led to an imbalance with the
control environment. The evidence from our review strongly supports this view.
This does not mean that there is actual clear evidence of customer detriment, but, there are 1
or 2 areas that we may need to investigate in more detail. But being out of balance is, in itself
as we already know, an issue of considerable importance to the FSA and must be rectified.
In our opinion it’s the balance of emphasis and focus (rather than experience as proposed by
the FSA) amongst senior management that has led to a culture which is overly sales and
marketing focused and has given inadequate voice / priority to risk and control issues. The
quality of the individuals themselves we found to be exceptional and we have no evidence yet
that suggests that intentions have not been correct at all times.
The risk and compliance environment within Retail has undergone incremental change but has
not kept pace, in certain parts of the division, with business developments. At the same time,
regulatory requirements have significantly increased and, given Retail’s market position, it is
inevitable that the regulator will expect HBOS to demonstrate a risk management framework
appropriate to the nature and scale of the business.
There is a distinction between the Network and regulated sales area. We found that the
systems and controls within the network, were significantly less effective than within
Regulated Sales.
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In our view the balance within the Network needs to be redressed as a matter of priority,
particularly having regard to the upcoming mortgage and GI regulation. However, we do
recognise the importance and challenge of maintaining a committed and successful sales and
marketing culture.
The culture created by such a strong focus and drive on marketing and sales has also created
a tension in the environment and it appears that people have not always felt able to say what
they wanted to say. This has resulted in people “down-loading” pent-up frustration. One
opinion holds no weight but two or more corroborate each other. A lot of people said the
same. You need to see some of this and we need to decide what it means and how we should
fulfil our AP responsibilities. There is some evidence which might suggest inappropriate
behaviour which will have to be investigated further.
We acknowledge the importance of balance in the assessment and conclusions we have
drawn from some of these discussions, however, they were not isolated, and it appears to
provide strong evidence which if misinterpreted could be used to build more serious
allegations.
There is some evidence which suggests that customer interest has not always been fully
served by the environment created. We suggest that further work is done in certain areas to
examine this further.
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Important observations / remarks
Oral update
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Preliminary Detailed Findings…..examples
Category Finding/Observation Implication (examples)
Targeting –
Sales (inc
Bonus)
Significant driver of behaviour
Instances of inappropriateness (current market share,
skills within branch, coverage (eg, new PFAs covering
same area) and local initiatives (“TMPP Monday”, “Give me
five” (where the target is to sell a customer 5 products in
an interview and enters a prize draw), “Saturday Slayer”
(where prizes are awarded for accounts opened on a
Saturday), “Power hour” (where they focus on one product
and staff are award with time off for sales))
No or little ability to challenge/influence targets
Cherry picking customers based on potential to cross sell
Product bias and product push exists
Evidence of dysfunctional behaviour relating to targets
(eg, trading sales with other branches, directing deposits
to savings accounts – New Money, TMPP, loan/card
protection)
Potential to sell to the needs of the organisation not
the customer’s – TCF implications
Potential to mislead customers (eg, Bank accounts
with mandatory credit cards, provide a quote for
insurance and then tell the customer to cancel it if
they don’t need it)
Branches do not book appointments for customers
who they see has having low sales potential
May overlook affordability and responsible lending
requirements. Mitigant proposed is repayment
cover
Focus is often on the products with achievable
targets and is also driven by bonus related bias
(credit cards but only with repayment cover, regular
premiums)
Sales approach
consistency
No formal sales process in Network
Lack of suitability guidance in Network
Heavily scripted in RCCs but discretion over sales
approach to prompts
Highly controlled in Regulated Sales
Inconsistency of Network sale given identical
customer profile and needs. This can be location or
timing based
Inconsistency of sale between contact centres and
branches
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Preliminary Detailed Findings….. examples
Category Finding/Observation Implication (examples)
HR High staff turnover in key Network positions (BM,
ASM) and RCC sales positions (MA)
Skewed BM recruitment policy and standards
Shortage of suitable candidates for key positions
(eg, BM and ASM) and cases of rapid promotion
Inconsistent and inappropriate Management
approaches
Increasing levels of staff turnover
Disillusionment regarding next role/progression
HBOS loses a considerable amount of experience that
needs to be replaced
Increased costs incurred relating to recruitment, induction
and on-going training
Lack of continuity of management in Network can be
unsettling for colleagues having to adapt to different
management styles and priorities
Rapid progression of staff who may lack all necessary
skills. Potential that mangers are not competent to
supervise adequately
Training and
Development
Network Sales Academy is very sales focused.
Certain elements (including Risk) are optional
Lack of ongoing support and development in
Network
Supervisors are not always competent to be
observers
Observations classed as ‘unsuccessful’ does not
always lead to advisers being removed from the line
Training is not sufficient (e.g, Level 2 PFA training
does not prepare advisers for full advice role)
Risk and compliance not introduced as priorities from
outset
Value and importance of observations is decreased
Risk and compliance standards not enforced or seen as
mandatory
Colleagues in Network, RCCs and PFAs (eg, level 1s) may
concentrate on selling only those products that they feel
confident with and possibly ignoring more pressing client
needs
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Preliminary Detailed Findings….. examples
Category Finding/Observation Implication (examples)
Relationship
between
Network, RCCs
and CSCs
Tension exists between all three channels
Seamless service is not offered to customers resulting
in complaints
The customer experience is determined by the
channel they choose
Increased level of customer complaints
Forthcoming
regulation
Currently a disconnect between central view on
status/preparation and that of MA’s/AMM’s
Experienced MA’s are leaving the organisation
High staff turnover (evidence gathered from Sheffield
RCC where, in one team, MA turnover stands at over
80%)
Experience staff leaving will have to be replaced by
similarly skilled (CEMAP qualified) MA’s which could
involve cost and time in recruiting and inducting
against already challenging timescales
Communication Complaints about the poor levels of internal
communication on product changes (features), rate
changes, operational requirements (eg, need to reverify
existing customers), programme status, and targets
Migrated customers were told that they didn’t need to
do anything. As a result of migration, many customers
were charged £30 fee for going overdrawn due to a
system change of calculating balances. Only those that
complained have had this charge refunded.
Concern that visits (eg, by RMAT) result in direct
feedback and have been contradictory (eg, told that
RMS scores are fine but there are areas of concern
relating to risk)
Customers have received different information (and
quotes) regarding products and offers
Reputational risk as colleagues are unaware of product
features
Dissatisfied customers due to mis-communication
regarding overdraft fees
Channels see little/no value in being assessed
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Next steps
???
Joint project to re-engineer the environment whilst maintaining Retail’s
unique strategy and proposition.