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The eabpAegFRIDAY, 18 NOVEMBER, 2005VOL. LXXXVII N°20

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Editorials are chosen and written by the Ubyssey staff. Theyare the expressed opinion of the staff, and do not necessarilyreflect the views of The Ubyssey Publications Society or theUniversity of British Columbia. All editorial content appearing inThe Ubyssey is the property of The Ubyssey Publications. Sodety.Stories, opinions, photographs and artwork contained: hereincannot be reproduced without the expressed, written permissionof The Ubyssey Publications Society.

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Humpty now named Nick Fontaine Dumpy sat on a JackieWong wall. Humpty and Champagne Chow( had a great fall. Allof the Jesse Marchand's horses and all of the Paul Evan's men,couldn't put Humpty back together again. Little Miss MeganSmyth sat on her Erin Hope-Goldmith tuffet, eating. her SimonUnderwood curds and whew Along came Bryan Zandberg thespider, who satdown beside her and Claudia Li and frightenedMiss Smyth away. Hickory. Colleenory, dodc, Eric Szeto themouse ran up the Yinan Max Wang do&The dock struckMichelle Mayne at one, and Caroline Chuang and the mouse randown! Hick Quinn Omori,dickory,dock.This little Liz Green wentto the Boris Korby market.This little . Meredith Hambrock stayedhome.This little Trevor Gilks had Laurece Butet-Roch roastbeef.This little Michael Kenacan had none.This little CarolynneBurkholder cried,uWee, wee, wee, weer with Alex Leslie, LeviBarnett and everyone all the way home.

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Flattering A usten adaptation with delicacyPRIDE AND PREJUDICETinseltown, Park Theatre

by Meredith HambrockCULTURE WRITER

The cinematic adaptation of aclassic book too often disap-points. Look at the first HarryPotter movie, Charlie and theChocolate Factory, or TheHitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy—all three managed to enrage eventhe most loyal of fans withglossed-over details and disap-pointing characterisations.

It's safe to say that director JoeWright has achieved the unimag-inable, having'created a fantasti-cally satisfying film version ofPride and Prejudice that stillmanages to ring in at just overtwo hours. Considering the quali-ty of the six-hour BBC version,especially in comparison to every

well in the box office this week-end, grossing 2.9 million (US) inlimited weekend release. The twoSaturday matinees at Tinseltownwere sell-outs; expect the film tocontinue its success with widerelease on November 23rd.

splendour of the filmmaking, thecast and the costume. Almosteverything seemed to be on parwith the book; it seems as if JoeWright only used his artisticlicence to enhance the overallbeauty of the tale. The film did

other loosely based adaptation,it's hard to believe thatscriptwriter Deborah Moggachcould possibly touch on everyimportant storyline in a third ofthe time. But she succeeds withflying colours.

While the characters were per-haps a little too obviously played,the cast conveyed the famousJane Austen wit with true poise.Kiera Knightely, the most pas-sionate Elizabeth Bennet we'veever seen, brings a fiery spark tothe role—it's hard to leave thetheatre anything less than totallyin love with her character. Whilewe miss out on a few of-themore lovable Fitzwilliam. Darcymoments, we see enough of thecharacter (played by MatthewMacFayden) to grant him thehonour of Elizabeth.

The scenery is unrivalled andonly enhances the complete

I shall not be moved by this ploy for an Academy AwardWALK THE LINEOpens today

by Meredith HambrockCULTURE WRITER

Let me be frank- if you are not aJohnny Cash fan, you probablywon't enjoy Walk the Line, thenew film chronicling the life ofthe award-winning country musicstar. I'm no Cash-hater, but I ammost definitely Cash-ignorant,and although the acting and thenniaiC; bravely performed' by theactors themselves, is fantastic, the

Cash-life presented here just isn'tthat interesting.

Sure, the details that Walk theLine depicts could be fun for amusic history buff: Cash touredwith Elvis, wrote a letter to BobDylan on an airsickness bag andplayed a show in Folsom Prison.However, the rest of the moviechronicles and inevitably overem-phasizes his drug problem, as domost Oscar-hungry blockbusterbiographies, which unfortunatelyrenders the entire plot short-lived,dry and boring.

On the flipside, this movie is a

triumph for Joaquin Phoenix,who finally steps away from pre-vious roles in action movies(Gladiator, Ladder 49) andproves himself to be one of themost versatile actors inHollywood. Reese Witherspoondoesn't do a bad job portrayingJune Carter as the strong womanshe appeared to be. She andPhoenix both worked with whatthey were given and the actingdoes not leave anything to bedesirecl, , you love all .thingsCash, sit back and enjoy-Joaquinsounds just like him. it

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What the hell is Electoral Area A?UBC isn't in Vancouver, it's in the Greater Vancouver Regional District'sElectoral Area A (the leftover bits). We elect a Director to the GVRD board,and he/she can also serve on the TransLink board. This is the only directlyelected GVRD board member. We can vote for Vancouver school board too.

Who can vote?To vote, you must be Canadian, 18+, and have lived in BC for 6 months andin Area A for 30 days. You'll heed ID and/or bills to prove this.

When and where?Vote at SUB or U Hill Secondary on Saturday, November 19, Sam-8pm.

Does it matter?This Director has significant power over campus development, and the transitsystem is TransLink's. Both areas need substantial improvement.

And who am I?Hi, I'm Darren. I'm a physics PhD student, and I've lived on campus for 4.5years. Since getting annoyed with the University Boulevard plans severalyears ago, I've ended up on a variety of committees and AMS and GSScouncils. If elected, I'd try to get buses timed to classes, push for SkyTrain,and make development planning transparent. For details, see my website.

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e •room rock for the allroomHeralded by horns, the return of BrokenSocial Scene eclipses past performance

BROKEN SOCIAL SCENE the band also threw in six tunesCommodore from their "released in 2002, butNovember 13 made every best-of 2003 list'

sophomore effort, but stuck toby Quinn Omori numbers from their latest, self-

CU LTURE WRITER titled LP for the bulk of the set."Almost Crimes" was a predictable

The last time Broken Social Scene crowd favourite, but the newer(BSS) dropped in on Vancouver it was numbers also shone.a boys' night out the lack of brass Dave Newfeld's claustrophobicand estrogen made for a severely bro- production is brilliant on record, butken sounding scene, the end result songs like "Superconnected" andbeing one of the most disappointing '7/4 (Shorelines)" really take offshows of that year. when they have some room

The band was back in town last to breathe in a live setting. "IbiSunday, and although Emily Dreams of Pavement' may also beHaines, Amy Milan, and Leslie the only song in the BSS catalogueFeist were still nowhere to be that can follow the slow burn offound, new BSS'er Lisa Lobsinger "Lover's Spit," itself given some newwas representing for the ladies, legs with an homage to Doug and thebacked by a full horn section and Slugs, of all bands, in the coda.Julie Penner on violin. Sure, Maybe it was the new material,Lobsinger doesn't have Ms. or maybe it was the additionalHaines' stage presence (give her players, but the thing that reallytime) or Feist's pipes (who does?), set this performance apart was thebut even while standing mostly fact that they looked like they werestock still her go at "Anthems for a just there to have fun.Seventeen Year-Old Girl" may have The last time BSS graced abeen the highlight of the night. Vancouver stage, founding member

Opening with the as-yet-unre- Kevin Drew was full of apologies:leased, "Jimmy and the Photocall," "sorry about the lack of ladies, sorry

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about the lack of horns, sorry, butwe've been touring forever." Theylooked tired. They sounded tight, butsomething was missing.

Last night they looked like theBroken Social Scene they wereconceived to be: a bunch of friendsfrom Toronto and Montreal who

got together to play music togeth-er, just because they could.Vancouverites should feel fortu-nate that they still can.

Ben Lee's got the girlies in the coop like the colonel's got the chickenBEN LEE WITH MADISEN ANDNEW BUFFALORichard's on Richard'sNovember 11

by Jackie WongCULTURE STAFF

November: a month fraught with coldweather, five o'clock darkness, andthe fact that the only holiday in themonth celebrates the armistice. Themelancholy sobriety of this time ofyear leaves your hollowed-out selfsearching for a serious kick in thesun-pants, preferably in the form oflace dresses, flowers, and musiciansfrom Australia reassuringly crooningabout how beautiful the world is andhow fundamentally lovely it is for you

that felt like the biggest smile anddeepest breath we'd taken in weeks.There were flowers everywhere: thebouquets that fans had brought werethrown back into the audience, andBen would shower his bandmateswith the rose petals through theirperformance. Ben finished up withan acoustic rendering of "Naked,"wandering through the audience,over speakers, and along thebar countertop. I don't care ifPitchforkmedia says that Ben Lee islike the class moron who turns outto be developmentally disabled": I'ma sucker for this boy, and I think it'sbecause he's unafraid to be bulliedby indie media howlers for theunabashed joy that he and his bandtakes in making music. is

love (featuring slack-jawed oglingfor the entire duration of his set) wasnot our love (reveling in the fact thatwe're suckers for honestly-craftedpop music). However, when thecrowd erupted in excited screams asThe Man Himself took the stage, Irealised why Claire Danes was onceso smitten, and why the scads of bare-ly-legal fans occupying the dancefloor were now so in love. A winky-eyed, curly-haired moppet of cutewith an entourage of smiling, winky-eyed band mates to back him up, Bengrinned among the flowers tied to allthe mic stands and cut into his set with"Begin," a favourite track from hislatest album, Awake is the New Sleep.

Such was the start of a tremen-dously generous and humbling set

Clad in a high-collar Victorian lacedress, white stockings and red lip-stick, Sally Seltmann„ the oneact that is New Buffalo, arrested thestage with a guitar, keyboard, andiPod looping her own vocal andinstrumental samples. Delivering agorgeous smattering of bejeweled,kaleidoscopic gem-pop, New Buffalowas hands-down the bravest, mostdynamic performance of the evening,and I could have easily gone homehappy if she had headlined the show.

I was so captivated by New Buffalothat I didn't notice the assemblageof Backstreet Boys-esque fan-girlsarranging themselves by the stage,clutching bouquets of flowers for BenLee. It was a little awkward, as itbecame quickly apparent that their

just to be here. Fridays show atRichard's on Richards featured all ofthese things in a triple-dose of heavy-lidded glow-pop, proving once againthat while music isn't hugs, a Ben Leeconcert is the next best thing.

We caught openers Madisennear the end of their set. Struck bythe extreme depth of guitarist MattClarke's dimples that cut like aknife into his already-chiseled jawline, my friend Aaron and I spentmost of our time standing like deerin the headlights of his megawattsmile instead of paying attention tothe music, perhaps with good rea-son. While their music was a bit toomall-issue for our interests, thenext act, New Buffalo, made up forany lack of innovation in spades.

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Tupac's campfire strutBOARDS OF CANADAThe CampfireHeadphaseWarp Records

by Jackie WongCULTURE STAFF

Dre and Snoop Dogg jumped ship,Tupac died, CEO Suge Knight wentto jail, and the label hasn't had a hitalbum since 1996. So now, after afew years of trying and failing tomake stars out of new talent, theygive us this out of desperation. Aplea for money that contains noth-ing new, nothing that contributes toTupac's legacy, and nothing that isworth listening to more than onceor twice out of curiosity.

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"This album makes me think of beinga kid in Manitoba," a good friend ofmine said to me. "I don't know why,but it reminds me of runningthronejit snow banks with my broth-ers, and the flat bleak land out therefull of Aspen trees.'

The Campfire Headphase, thethird album from Scottish brothersMike Sandison and Marcus Eoin,delivers Boards of Canada's trade-mark brand of heady, sun-bakedsoundscapes that bend and oscil-late into one another like beads in akaleidoscope. What makes thisalbum unique, however, is that itcontains a markedly brighter soundthan previous efforts, etched with acuriously affecting knife-through-heart delivery of remarkably nostal-gic aural imagery.

Insistent opening guitar hooks of"Chromatey Dreamcoar elicit memo-ries of the view from the backseat ofyour dad's car when you were six,the road immense and treelined asyou motored by. The introspective,richly-gemmed chromatics of "HeySaturday Sun- conjure a curiouslyCanadian landscape seemingly moti-vated by the same fascination withhoser mythology for which Caribou'sDan Snaith is known.

Contrary to what their band nameimplies, Boards of , Canada has dis-tinctly Scottish roots, and under-standing their sound as a presenta-tion of Canadian auralities demon-strates the ease with which a listener(in my case, one from Canada) caninsert themselves in the gossamersound-narrative that Sandison andEoin so intricately stitch together inThe Campfire Headphase.

All 15 tracks on the album arecarefully arrayed in a strategic con-stellation of numbers that bleedinto one another in a wash of seafoam and blurry photographs. Theastonishing, paint-by-numbers intu-ition and attention to technicalform that spins through TheCampfire Headphase renders arefreshing, thoughtful, and innova-tive record worth all of the antici-pation surrounding its release.

This is an album whose strikingversatility sings out the jangle ofbright autumn sunshine while itwarms up its listeners burrowingindoors from the November cold.Long after the hyped-up, record-release bonfire dies down, TheCampfire Headphase will leave a trailof glowing embers in its wake, smol-dering through► the fall as one of thetop albums of the year.

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TUPAC: LIVE ATTHE HOUSE OFBLUESDeath Row Records

by Trevor GilksCULTURE STAFF

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Tupac: Live at the House of Blues isTupac Shakur's 13th album since hisdeath in 1996, and his second livealbum this year. So before we evenplay the album, it's clear that this isprobably yet another grave robberyby the formerly triumphant but cur-rently pathetic Death Row Records.

And it gets worse: this isn't even aTupac concert. The album cover is apicture of Tupac with 'featuring

I hate the state of pop music today.Honestly, who actually likes it? Your15-year-old TNA-wearing Usher-junkie sister? With all this apatheticgarbage floating around, it's a won-der anyone even turns the radio onanymore. Unless your radio's tunedto CJSR FM88 in Edmonton, that is; ifthat's the case, you can feast yoursedentary musical taste on theVertical Struts, the heavy-handedrazor blade sound ready to kickyour ennui to the curb.

The unlikely duo who make upthe Struts is about as yin-and-yangas their musical style. On onehand, there's rapid-fire-fill anar-cho-homosexual drummer TrevorAnderson, a man determined toshow everybody how hard a gayguy can kick ass ("I want these kidsto know cocksuckers can rock," hetold Edmonton's See magazine).He's counterbalanced by self-pro-claimed girl-kisser guitarist/vocal-ist Raymond Biesinger, a take-no-prisoners musician that pushesand shoves his way right to theedge of his genre, whatever thehell it might be.

As a duo, these two have puttogether a raw, visceral, rush-packed self-titled album, justreleased this month. The stark andjarring contrast between tracks onthis disc should be more thanenough to wrest any White Stripesaddict out of their misery. The CDblasts off with the super zinger"Stab, Stab, Stab", a jerky, rough-edged psycho of a song; from there,the album runs headlong throughthe hectic punk-a-billy yelping of"Fun Js Not Fun" and the stop-startromp "It's Just I Gotta Know,' thenscreams to a bloody halt for the twoclosing rock lullabies 'Waterloo'and "Field and Stream,' a pair ofwarm, dark, country-style odes.

This album is a Canadian indiegem; Biesinger's vocal style is aspicy pastiche of Mick Jagger, PeteTownsend, and maybe even a littleJoe Jackson, and his guitar work isgritty and unpolished, frenzied andtireless. Trevor Anderson's rhythmsuits the sound just right, screamingalong at an adrenaline pace; slidingback into a whispering drum line foran underwhelming ballad tone.

This pair of electric Albertanspaint a strangely vintage aestheticdoused in flame; in fact, every facetof this band contains some sort ofdelicious dichotomy, which is whyit's so fun to put this album on in thefirst place. Anyone looking for asoundtrack to listen to while theyburn down the house and dance inthe embers should blaze a path forthe nearest indie music shop. It'sflavourful, spiky pop-rock laced withsoulful slow dancing—more impor-tantly it's a hell of a good tim.e.11

Snoop Dogg" written discreetly at thebottom. However, it turns out thiswas actually a Snoop Dogg concert atwhich Tupac was the opening act.The "star" of this album is only onnine of the album's 25 tracks.

The motivation (or excuse) forreleasing this album is that it standsas Tupac's last ever performance. Ittook place at House of Blues onJuly 4,1996—two months before he wasgunned down in Las Vegas. Ofcourse, nobody knew that this wouldbe his last performance, so there isnone of the extravagance of a farewellshow. And apparently there isn'teven a good recording of it. The voic-es are clear enough; but the beats arealmost completely drowned up by thenoise of the audience. At one point,Tupac disses east coast rival Nas andannounces that he's going to "whoophis ass with his own motherfuckingbeat,' but the music is so unclear Icouldn't even tell which motherfuck-ing beat Nas was getting his asswhooped with. It wasn't until lookedit up that I found out it was "If I RuledThe World (Imagine That)" from Nas'It Was Written.

One of the more unfortunateaspects of gangsta rap is the fact thatevery rapper has a small posse of dis-mal hangers-on. Eminem has D12,50 Cent has G Unit, and here we getTupac's Outlawz. The Outlawz awk-wardly and obnoxiously shout in thebackground and make it even harderto hear what sounds like a solid per-formance. Not even the crappiest ofproduction can holster the excite-ment of Tupac's energetic, scarygrowl, but what this album needs lessthan anything else is "yeah, Tupacyall" and 'put your hands up" beingbarked in the background.

In the nine years since this show,Tupac has died and become legend,whereas Snoop has lived longenough to become a haggard, pathet-ic joke. But on Live at the House ofBlues, a hungry 25-year-old Snoopleaves Tupac in the dust. The soundisn't any better for Snoop's half, buthe's clear, fast, and sharp. At first lis-ten he can sound lazy, but he's cool-er, subtler, and more dexterous(albeit less passionate) than Tupac.The second half of Live at theHouse of Blues similarly suffersfrom the presence of Snoop's lack-luster The Dogg Pound Gang, butunlike the Outlawz, DPG membersDaz Dillinger and Kurupt are atleast talented enough to get theirown turn on the mic, and the rest ofthe time they mostly let Snoop flysolo without interfering too much.

For casual hip-hop fans, the mostthis album has to offer is an amaz-ing but poorly recorded perform-ance by Snoop Dogg at the top of hisgame. But, even if you are a casualhip-hop fan, and that is what you'relooking for, there are better place tofind it.

For die-hard Tupac fans, there islittle if anything of interest. Even theinter-song chatter is on autopilot,save a few amusing disses at his eastcoast rivals (he claims to have madelove to Notorious BIG's wife FaithEvans, and calls himself a "Bad BoyKiller"). The tracklist features a fewtracks that were not officiallyreleased until after his death, whichmay thrill some hip-hop historians,but "How Do You Want It" and "2 ofAnierikaz Most Wanted" are the onlybig hits included.

Death Row Records was thelabel behind almost all of the gangs-ta rap hit records of the early andmid-90s —including those bySnoop, Dr. Dre, and Tupac. But Dr.

THE UBYSSEY FRIDAY, 18 NOVEMBER, 2005

`How many more sisters do we have to lose?'No More Stolen Sisters: Ending violence and discrimination against Aboriginal women in Canada

by MOMOKO PRICE

In 1996, the Canadian governmentreleased a statistic stating that FirstNations women in Canada are fivetimes more likely to die from an actof violence than Canadian women ofnon-First Nation ethnicity. Accordingto Amnesty International's StolenSisters report released last fall, littlehas changed in the past nine years.

Despite Amnesty's findings in2004, Canada has not made any"substantive changes based on[Amnesty's] recommendations fromlast year," said UBC women's stud-ies professor Deanna Reder of thereport.

On November 2, in an attempt to

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racism, sexism, violence and injus-tice against them. According to thereport, this problem has been longpresent yet persistently ignored bythe Canadian legal system.

Even though it succeeded in initi-ating a number of social programsaimed at supplementing the stagger-ing lack of social support for femalesurvivors of abuse in First Nationscommunities, according to subse-quent reports by Amnesty, there stillremains much to be done.

The panel will be speaking at 3:30pm, Tuesday November 22, in theFirst Nations Longhouse. Admissionis free.::

— with files from Jesse Marchand

remedy this, Reder and a group ofUBC students, in conjunction withAmnesty International will present apanel of speakers to discuss thetopic of violence and discriminationagainst First Nations women inCanada in an effort to bring thislong-overlooked issue to the atten-tion of students on campus.

Speakers include Ernie Crey,Sto:lo leader, prize-winning author,and President of United NativeNations and Geni Manual, programmanager of Choices, a social pro-gram dedicated to assisting FirstNations women who have survivedabuse. Skundaal, of the DowntownEastside Women's Centre will also bethere to introduce her two elders,

Harriet Nahanee and Reta Blind, twofront-line workers for the missingwomen of the Downtown Eastside.

"It's not often that there's a meet-ing of community and academy,"said Reder. exciting because it'snot purely an academic event. Therewill be people there that are dealingwith this violence everyday."

According to the Amnesty report,violence against First Nationswomen persists in Canada largelydue to apathy and ignorance at boththe civilian and government levels.The Stolen Sisters report, whichchronicled the disappearance anddeaths of nine First Nations womenin Canada over a 30-year time span,exposed a shocking prevalence of

Coordinating good intentions: The Vancouver Native Health Societyby BRYAN ZANDBERG

Lou Demerais talks with hishands, and his hands seem to havea lot to say. He's a calm and well-spoken Cree from the Prairies,who has been working onAboriginal health in Vancouver forthe last 15 years.

I'm speaking to him in hisupstairs office at the VancouverNative Health Society's (VNHS)walk-in medical clinic at 499 EastHastings Street, where he works asthe executive director.

Anyone who has ever passedthrough the Vancouver's troubledDowntown Eastside (DTES) hasglimpsed what Demerais knowsfirst-hand: First Nations are tragi-cally over-represented in theneighbourhood. For Demerais andother concerned individuals, thisreality is something they are deter-mined to change.

"We didn't think that anythinggood was going to happen for ourpeople...within the area of healthuntil those of us who were inter-ested in the health field got our-selves involved," he explains.

When they first started working inthe DTES, the diagnosis for the healthof the Aboriginal community wasgrim. "There wasn't any specificplace for Aboriginal people to go inVancouver to have their health needslooked after," he says. "Some of thosepeople...were telling our doctors thatthey hadn't seen a doctor sometimesin as many as 20 years.'

The unique thing about theVNHS is their approach to healingand social services, which hasturned out to be a working formu-la _for drawing in patients that fellthrough the cracks.

'We try as best as we can toapproach problems in a moreholistic way so that we ran betterget at root causes of things,'explains Demerais. 'Although,that's :really difficult to do, becausenearly everyone we:deal with herehas been affected by all of the :riotcauses that there are.'

He lists the root causes as fol-lows: poor education; life4ongunhealthy eating habits; troubledfamily 'backgrounds; environmen-tal Swims; lack 44hr/using-the legs-ey of Cstnada's residentird schoolpoliey and cluonic health sitaa-tiOillS. Ile adds-that the ensemble ofhealth and wellness issues Nativeslace• is undespinned by poverty,pointing out that the levels • ofhealth umemsgst Abongsnall peoplein genessal in eanada awe "way, waybelow national 310T11113:.

HARMONY AND INTEGRATION: Lou Demerais raises awareness of the link between culture and well-being. BRYAN ZANDBERG PHOTO

Right now, the VNHS runs ahandful of programs that try tocounteract the health issues facedby Aboriginals both in the DTESand the rest of the city, includingHIV/AIDS, diabetes, mental healthand addiction problems. They arealso running an Early ChildhoodEducation service.

Several of their programs havebeen lost along the way, includingone that helped people who suf-fered under the residential schoolsystem. The program was dealingwith residential school .abusethrough a treatment combiningpsychotherapy and 'traditionalhealing practices. 'Unfortunately,just-as many of ihe patients wereopening up and Aix' closing stories-of what had happened :to them, thelanding was -.cat.

"And :if you -understand any Acifthat," :says Demerais, ''people Whohave just recently disclosettare attheir most amble."

.He is certain the effect:of .hav-ingtheir treatment cut Aunt was adamaging - experience .for patients,but lie has no. way of knowing,: asmany of thein..disappeared .backinto -the city once . treatment wasno longer .theze.

When asked if now, years afterthe last Of the...residential schoolshave been closed. down, there isstill: a need fort/mese sortsufixro-grams, De is mespondsoat a :moment's 'hesitation: - "Oh,there's. a -tremendous ..iseed forthat. "I mean, at the root.of ::xnott

could contribute.""When you apply what hap-

pened overall with the residentialschool experience, you'll find somuch of that creeping intotoday's...middle-aged generation,because there are still things thathold many of us back. It's almostlike, on the one hand, there's thestrident attempt to maintain somecultural underpinning to every-thing that we do, and on the otherhand there's still all that guilt thatwas passed on by nuns andpreachers and everything else thatwas associated with residentialschools.

'Somewhere between those twothings, many of them "residentialschool victims) were scarred bymany 'things that happened. -Andthey've put themselves in. shells.And when you put yourself in a'shell, you don't grow. .And if youdon't grow, you die.'

Ileixtintstosome of the artworkhawing inisisedfice, tellingsne that-paintingllas.loeen.ameans for the._artist towork .through whathe andhis Wialings esperienced in a -resi-dendialsishooLlesexacttlythesortor

ISwantstopromote, toetopromote,foster :health • and Imaging toAboriginals in -Vancouver.

"Ithinkthat the :overiajob thatwe _have to dois.to-tryandnesturepeoplestillutttheybeginto almostbe . reborn .fronrwithin, in someway. utilising Whatever .is lift oftheir , cultures? -he: .says. 'That'sWhatwe'zeabouta *

suffers to the exclusion of others inthe DTES—has won the group praiseand distinction from various cor-ners. This year, the City ofVancouver chose the VNHS as mostdeserving of their annual CulturalHarmony Award.

The VNHS does try to add anAboriginal perspective to otherefforts in the area, however.

'Keep in mind that on thewhole Aboriginal people have verydifferent value systems, -that wecome from very diverse histories,and whether people want to acceptit or not, we come from culturesthat have developed for many,many years,' says Demerais.

That means approaches to heal-ing need to be particular, takinginto 'considering cultural ,differ-ences. Demerais says some of thebigger issues he wants his com-munity to confront are addictionsand antisocial behaviour. As fornon-Aborigimds, looking at thesesocial realities as outsiders,.Demerais -tries to give them a bet-ter perspective on whatieslikefor.Aboriginals living in the area: 7A11of those people hurt the • same asyou and 1 -do. All of those peoplehave had, -at cone. point or another,dreams .that maybe didn't go . any-where; all of those -people werechildren at one point; all of Thosepeople wait to besood . parents.'

'In their own way, they want tocontribute something, but theyjust don't know how bemuse no-one's ever - had any faith that they

our problems is the residentialschool experience."

And when asked if the clinicoffers a holistic approach rightnow, Demerais has the followingto say: "We try to. It isn't alwayseasy, because we can't alwaysdevelop the kinds of things that weneed to be able to develop to makethat happen. What we're trying todo is work within the Aboriginalcommunity in Vancouver to pullvarious elements of care togeth-er.' His vision, and the vision ofmany others working in similaroutreach efforts is to see a morecoordinated approach to.Aboriginal health services withinthe conununity, even if thatmeansletting certain services like tradi-tional healing some under therunbrellauf.othersroups.

Visions for the DTES •.don'talways :-fit so- well together.Demerais:says .theseis ,pressure tobe 400 per cent -Aboriginallyfocused, •:buthedoesal agree withadoptingthattattic,

e that it anddried,' he says. Our -philosophyhas been -from the beginning thatno one gets -turned - away Whoneeds ..help, and we don"t. careabout theicolourufyour

Walking through the .busy wait-ingroom ionsiw wayinto see him, .1saw :Sir myself pistil! ,of this

in the .nuumber.of -White pawl*-sittingamidliativepatients:11141/S'sinciusive. approarb.. -to-lrerdthtithebelie' f that . mcialor ethnic :grew.

REDERWEIR

The Great Hall in the Longhouse was given its name to reflect the spirit ofthe west wind and to welcome people from all four directions. Last night theHall was host to the UBC First Nations Student Association's Coffee House,which featured singing, dancing, and friendly faces—everything that "Sty-Wet-Tan represents. Contact [email protected] to find out whenthe next event is scheduled. YINAN MAX WANG PHOTO

"STY-WET-TAN"

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An international student s first visit to the Museum of Anthropology

by MUNISHA TUMATO nine of the summer with a fresh, rawpiece of wood. In the Great Hall, sur-rounded by towering, exquisitelycarved totem poles and peoplemilling around soundlessly, stoppingoccasionally to watch, the MOA artist-in-residence works painstakingly onthe piece. Everyday he sits, earphonesin place to ward off distraction, chis-elling and buffing a story out of thewood. He will be finished soon, andthen he will start a new piece, addinghis modern rendition to the collectionof ancient pieces sitting in the GreatHall. People returning to the museumover time are able to watch theprocess unfold as art is coaxed out ofthe ordinary by skilled and patienthands.

Aside from the spectacular displayof totem poles, canoes and feast dish-es in the Great Hall, the museum alsohas a series of online exhibits, currentexhibits and lectures throughout theyear. Until December 31 you cancheck out the particularly noteworthyNew Acquisitions exhibit, an exten-

ARTIFACT: The Museum

museum recently fast tracked plansfor a major renovation, setting theirsights on aJanuary start date. The ren-ovations will include the creation of asubstantial new 6,000 square foottemporary exhibition space, as well asa separate office building.

The museum is bringing in an oldhand to design the new spaces.Renowned Canadian architect ArthurErickson, who drew the initial sketch-es for the museum design in 1976, isin charge of realisins the new struc-tures.

The museum's Great Hall is a goodexample of the Erickson approach.Huge, organic and open, housed bysoaring ceilings and walls of win-dows, the museum pays homage tothe post-and-beam architecture of the •First Nations of the northwest coast ofBC. Home to a vast collection of aweinspiring totem poles, the Great Hallexemplifies the notion that a spacecan be as artful and historically signif-icant as the pieces it houses.

Lyle Wilson started at the begin-

of Anthropology houses 35,000 ethnographic objects and 500,000 archaeological objects—all you have to do is cross the road. YINAN MAX WANG PHOTO

sive collection of artifacts represent-ing diverse cultures from around theworld. The museum spent close to sixdecades building this mass of fasci-nating functional art and the exhibitincludes treasures all the way fromNunavut to the South Pacific.

I can remember being at theMuseum of Fine Arts in Montreal and

Webb, "but once they do get here,admission is free and we have a beau-tiful building for people the just comeand hang out." Students are welcometo wander, read or study on thegrounds of the museum, says Webb,which are situated along the cliffs ofPoint Grey overlooking the mountainsand the sea.

child-like wonder is a little strange, Inonetheless felt that the guard'sactions were a little excessive. Whileyou can't necessarily touch things atMOA either, I sensed none of the pre-tension that other museums some-times exhibit alongside their pieces.

"There's a kind of psychologicalbarrier along Marine Drive," says

If you—like me—are sick of monot-onous study halls and wallowing inbad posturedom in front of,a comput-er screen; if you're craving beauty oryou want to actually see some of thestuff you're probably reading about,the museum's a great place to start.Trust me, it's worth the psychologicaltrauma of crossing Marine Drive.::

I can even vaguely remember it beingspectacular. However what I remem-ber most clearly is nearly being de-limbed by an overzealous securityguard when, besieged by child-likewonder, I attempted to touch a tablestanding magically on a million, sway-ing feeler-like legs. Fully acknowledg-ing that a 23-year-old prone to fits of

As I perused the UBC catalogue fromSouth Korea just four months ago, Icouldn't help but imagine a campuslife characterised by manic all-nighters, shared beers in campusdives, and the occasional, inspira-tional wander through the Museum ofAnthropology [MON.

The unforttmate reality is that bythe end of October I was still uncer-tain as to the whereabouts of saidmuseum—it was time to track it downand see what I'd been missing.

What I found was a spectacularinstitution that houses pieces ofBritish Columbia's unique cultureand history, skillfully amalgamat-ing modern technologies andancient stories.

"The prevalent idea is that there'snot much that changes out here, butactually we do have a lot going on,"says Jennifer Webb, communicationsmanager for MOA. The biggest changewill come sooner than expected. The

Re-ev at UBCeratureLions Litinctluat g First Naby JESSE MARCHAND think to get on with it in a much more

organised way."Reder agreed, stating that English

departments in Canada need to take thetime to re-evaluate their departmentsin terms of First Nations content.

"Anthropology 20 years ago had toexamine their digcipline and admitthe power dynamic as white ethnog-raphers as authorities andAboriginals as research subjects,"said Reder. "It's this decade thatEnglish departments have tochange.'

And even though many of the cur-rent teachers of First NationsLiterature are Caucasian, Weirbelieves that this can and will change.

"Of course it's controversial for awhite Euro-person to be teaching aFirst Nations course. I think that'sself-evident and I think in the next tenyears while there will still be peoplewith my background and trainingworking in this area there will cer-tainly be more and more Aboriginalpeople with PhD's in the field frontand centre teaching these courses.And I think it's really important thatthe institution and the people inthese fields now contribute to thattransformation." *

for young Aboriginal students goingthrough the system," said Weir. "Andthere are really good political reasonsand socio-economic reasons for that,"she said, adding that English depart-ments of the past sadly played a rolein residential schools, assimilationand colonisation.

But students like Reder demon-strate that there is hope for the futureof First Nations literary studies inCanada.

"There is going to necessarily be ashift," said Reder. "Emotional conflictin [First Nations] classes that don'tseem logical...a lot of it is trying toresolve this lack of knowledge orinvisibility of Aboriginal perspectivesand realities.

"There's a huge emotional part ofthis work, it's not a simple knowledgedeficit There's emotional work to bedone," added Reder.

And while Weir is happy with thesmall changes that are happening incurrent Canadian literature classes atUBC, she would like to see FirstNations content further institution-alised into the humanities at UBC.

"We've been starting somewherefor the last 40 years and having donea really good job at starting we need I

said Reder. "Youinternalise that feel-ing that there hasn'tbeen anything thatgood.'

Along with thelack of First Nationscoverage, Reder alsonoticed a lack of fel-low First Nationsstudents in herclasses. "For my entire BA, my entireMA, I never had a fellow English stu-dent, that I knew, who wasAboriginal or saw or knew of anyAboriginal literature profs.'

Since her time as an undergrad-uate and graduate student—whenFirst Nations studies were obso-

lete—Reder has now moved onto aPhD in Indigenous autobiographyin Canada. But she is one of few torealise this goal.

'There are First Nations studentsin education and law but in thehumanities there are very fewIndigeneous scholars...or even schol-ars who can mentor First Nations stu-dents,' said Rader.

"Getting a PhD in some version ofLiterary studies in English has notbeen typically a high priority I think

area, sometimes surprises people.They're not used to having writerscome into their classroom.'

It's very important that the onlycourse that one of the largest Englishdepartments in Canada offers in thisarea reflect what's happening now,"she added.

"But this is not to say knowing thehistory isn't important," added Weir."Working with contemporary writersisn't severing them from the history,it's recontextualisation of the history."

Since the debut of the First NationsLiterature class as well as the intro-duction of the First Nations Studiesprogram in 2000, First Nations litera-ture is starting to pop up in otherclasses outside of the First Nationstitle in both historical and contempo-rary literary' form. Many Canadianstudies classes now have a FirstNations component or a full FirstNations focus.

Deanna Reder, one of only twoMetis women at UBC to attempt com-pletion of a PhD in the Department ofEnglish, said that before she metMargery Fee, the writing of FirstNations was unheard of at UBC.

-Until Margery, I had never read abook with Native content [at UBC],"

are very few coursesin which this train-ing is supplied.

English 476 isone step towardrectifying the situa-tion. Created inresponse to a stu-dent petition callingfor First Nationscontent within theEnglish Department, the class wasfirst taught by Margery Fee, who alsotook over the chair position of thecommittee that created a major andminor in First Nations studies at UBC.

This year's class, taught by Weir,has a focus on contemporary FirstNations writers in North America.There is also a strong emphasis onwriters from BC.

"A lot of people tend to focus onthe kinds of literature survey coursesthat reproduce the sense theyalready have that literature is dead,that most writers are dead, that greatwriters have been dead a long timeand there are no writers actively inour midst," said Weir. "Focusing anAboriginal writing course on con-temporary writers, many of themwriting here in this geographical

For the 44 students registered inEnglish 476, the opportunity to readFirst Nations literature may seem asmuch a part of the department cur-riculum as any average Shakespeareor Milton survey course. But it wasn'tlong ago that the Department ofEnglish didn't teach any First Nationsliterature—and they certainly weren'tthe only department in Canada in neg-lect. And according to ENGL 476Professor Lorraine Weir, there is stillmuch more to be done.

"The creation of the First Nationsstudies program at the undergraduatelevel in the faculty of arts is a begin-ning," said Weir. "But it's a programthat is trying to address many differ-ent needs all at once with a very limit-ed budget and relatively restrictedopportunities in terms of hiring."

According to Weir, what we see inthe humanities at UBC and acrossCanada generally is a catch-22situation. There are very few FirstNations-focused classes taught,because there are very few professorswho specialise in First Nations stud-ies, and there are very few profes-sors who specialise because there

FIRST NATIONS SUPPLEMENT 7Creating a communityon campusFirst Nations Student Association hopesto achieve a permanent place at universityby PAUL EVANS

Creating a strong, vibrant and per-manent community for FirstNation's students is what therecently created First NationsStudent Association (FSNA) hopesto achieve.

"Our top priority is kind of justopening the. world for the FirstNations students. We want the stu-dents to have a community," saidFNSA Vice-Chief Amber Shilling."We want to promote the long-house as a home away fromhome."

It is this strong community,explained Shilling, that will serveas an important support basewhen the association decides toexpand its scope and delve intopolitical issues on campus andadvocacy efforts.

Currently,.however, FNSA musttackle the pressing problem oflimited funds. The association'sonly source of revenue right nowis through fundraising, saidShilling.

"Being that we don't have anyfunding, we have our work cut outfor us," she said. "We're looking at

giving ourselves a little more legit-imacy...so we can find a legitimateway to get some funding and someassistance from UBC."

• Shilling explained that the asso-ciation is currently designing itself alogo. She said that this is part of alarger effort to permanently estab-lish the association, adding that per-manency is a very important goal asit will provide a recognisable FirstNations student organisation in theUBC community

Alma Mater Socitey PresidentSpencer Keys commented thatgroups like the FNSA are impor-tant to giving First Nations stu-dents a voice on campus.

"I'm glad to hear about Firstnations student society andl thinkthat perhaps that provides a newopportunity for those move-ments," he said.

"Institutional support andinstitutional drive can only go sofar," said Keys. "For the advance-ment of Aboriginal issues at UBCVancouver, a well organised and agrass-roots First Nations group iscrucial to making sure that theseissues are at the fore-front of stu-dents' minds." *

BC's own KashechewanGwayasdums to receive water treament plant in two years

by ERIC SZETO

Substantial progress . was made,said to Chief Bob Chamberlain,after a meeting with Canadian offi-cials about the ailing village ofGwayasdums Wednesday.

For the past seven years, theKwicksutaineuk-ah-kwaw-ah-mishFirst Nations village—located justoff the tip of the northeasterncoast of Vancouver Island—hasbeen receiving shipments of bot-tled water because their local sup-ply is contaminated with salt-water from the ocean.

Furthermore, all the houseswhere the now 40 permanent res-idents live have been condemnedand are unlivable because of thedecay and black mould thatentrenches the interiors of mostof the houses.

Although Minister of Indianand Northern Affairs Andy Scotthas committed to building a watertreatment plant in two years,Chamberlain felt that more wasneeded to address the immediateproblems.

Chamberlain contended that,"it's been seven years since we'vebeen bathing in saltwater and twomore is unacceptable."

Both'sides eventually agreed tobegin looking immediately at hav-ing barges ship. huge volumes ofwater to their reservoir. Effortswould also be put forward toacquire a portable water purifier,similar to the ones used byCanada's Disaster AssistanceReponse Team (DART), to providethe village with a self-sustainablesource of water until the treat-ment plant is completed.

But that may take more than sixmonths, he said.

In addition, all the houses willbe replaced. The most deplorablehouses will take precedent,explained Chamberlain.

Chamberlain said that five

trailers will be deployed ontovacant lots in early January toaccommodate those worst off.

According to Communicationsand Consultation Advisor at Indianand Northern Affairs CanadaChristiane Cote, there is an addedsense of urgency for this villagebecause of the upcoming season.

"The winter is coming,- and thehousing conditions cannot be leftas it is and -everybody is .aware ofthis," she said.

However, Chamberlain saidthat this urgency should not bedriven by the time of year. Thishas been an urgent matter since2000, he stated. "

"What's a life worth? It doesn'tmatter if a band has - five membersor a two thousand there's still afiduciary responsibility," saidChamberlain, responding to theattention the federal governmentgave to the recent Kashechewanincident in Northern Ontario,where almost 2,000 people had to.be relocated because their waterwas infected with the E Coli virus.

Chamberlain attributed therecent events in Kashechewan asone of the ways his band has beenable to get the attention from thegovernment.

Gwayasdums faced a similar sit-uation where all the children havehad to beirelocated,because, it wasdeemed a health risk, he said.

Dorothy Hawkins, a former res-ident of Gwayasdums said that shemoved from the village a year agobecause it was too unhealthy forher five children.

"They were in and out of thehospital with respiratory prob-lems, chest infections, ear infec-tions pretty much the wholemonth of October [20041."

She said that since she's movedshe doesn't really worry about it,but may consider moving backone day if the water situation isdealt with. *

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Liliwat NaInterior Salis

Down at .17he.. RiverIt was down atwhere I seen S: .:glii)*Wiiin awayand the sun raged On'your.skin.The water SWirled.an&the blood rushed to youras they let loose cutting words

The walls of the canyon roared withyour voiceroared with the river cutting through the mounoirkThe rocks they crumbled and I fell down banks or,*banks of cold

You pinned me down,your arms pushed down my hands. .Spit sprayed from your bloody face.You said promise me, promise me this never leavethis never leaves this place

The walls of the canyon roared with our silence.Ashamed, with our eyes cast down to the ground,I caught your tears on the rocks, trying to disappe,y,trying to hide.

Early morning, trucks are rollingOppenheimer Park is closed.Cloaked in grey skies,Cloaked in vacant eyes from suburban bug .WinThe smack of skulls on Powell Street VallsEcho west towards Main.Breathing dusk and dusty boarded shops

town could use a fix.

Shadow Shooting AngelsShadow Shooting Angels

Look to the ocean, these cranes can't flyA crow staggers to the treesLiquidating lies for anther highFeel the cold rush through these streetsHeavy feet tear through fragile grassKeep feet moving or get stackHeads look down at the sidewalk cracksEven blades of grass find sun

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e serpent's trail has begun.

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never blinks the Cyr;ljt- oes eyewith spikes in bank' Onward west;boimd forthe settir' is sun.

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Cultures collidein Saskatoon

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Two Worlds CollidingA National Film Board ofCanada Production

Night had the courage to comeforward with his story, whicheventually prompted one of thelargest internal police investiga-tions in Canadian history.

Saskatoon police admitted thatthese "'drop-offs' had been occurringsince as far back as 1970.

Two Worlds Colliding, directedand written by Tasha Hubbard,tells the chilling story of Night'sordeal and the subsequent legalinvestigation.

As a child I was always told to callthe police if I was ever in serioustrouble. But after watching this movieit's hard not to wonder if I wouldtrust the police if I were a member ofthe First Nations community.

by MEGAN SMYTH

When I watch the news and learnabout all the horrible discrimina-tory treatment received by citizensliving in less fortunate areas of theworld I feel lucky that I am a citi-zen of Canada.

After watching Two WorldsColliding I realised that not allpeople living in Canada are freefrom discrimination.

Two Worlds Colliding is the storyof a series of deaths in Saskatoon.Darrell Night, a First Nations man liv-ing in Saskatoon injanuary 2000, lefta party that was being broken up bypolice. He was picked up by the policeand driven to the outskirts of town.

Pushed around, abandoned andleft for dead in -20 Celsius weather,Night survived the ordeal, but it turnsout that others were not so lucky.Just days later the bodies of RodneyNaistus and Lawrence Wegner werefound frozen outside of town in thesame area where Night was aban-doned. Both were First Nations.

Hubbard's use of sweeping winterprairie landscapes leaves you feelingcold and alone, and tries to comeclose to reenacting the horrific expe-riences of those left to freeze in thecold Saskatoon night

The footage of Night displays agrown man who still experiencesfear when remembering the detailsof his ordeal.

As a director Hubbard does notforget to include both sides of thestory. Scenes from the internalpolice investigations are inter-spersed with the stories of the familymembers trying to deal with thedeaths of Naistus and Wegner.Emotions run deep in this film andthe repercussions received by thepolice officers involved with Night'scase left me doubting the justice sys-tem of my country.

The movie is a truthful and grit-ty account of the injustices suf-fered by First Nations individualsat the hand of one of the mosttrusted and established institu-tions of Canada.

Two Worlds Colliding should beacknowledged by more Canadians—it's time to stop sweeping theseissues under the rug. *

THE UBYSSEY FRIDAY, 18 NOVEMBER, 2005 SPORTS 9

T-Birds take CIS titleby Megan Smyth

SPORTS EDITORthought let's "just find a way to getthis thing done."

And that they did.UBC's first game was on Friday

against the Montreal Carabins.This proved to be a battle to thefinish as both teams were fightinghard in order to advance.

After a 1-0 win for UBC againstMontreal, the Thunderbirds wenton to play the University of PrinceEdward Island Panthers onSaturday. Again the game ended ina 1-0 victory for UBC, placing theT-Birds in the gold medal matchagainst the Toronto Varsity Blues.

Tensions ran high in the finalmatch. UBC showed their team-work and pulled off a 2-1 lead. TheThunderbirds opened the scoringin the first half with a goal fromBen DeCosse and followed up witha winning goal from Niko Marcinain the second half.

The players will now be able tofocus on upcoming final exams,and will return to the field in the -

new-year. "We have to look aheadbecause we host the national tour-nament in 2007 and we know forsure we'll be in the tournament,"said Mosher.uu

ing at the national championships,but due to something bigger., "Thelong term commitment, attitudeand the hard work of the collectivegroup," dating all the way back toNovember 2004, has been the keyto the Thunderbirds' success, stat-ed Mosher.

The UBC men's soccer team camehome crowned as the new CISnational champions last Monday.

University of Prince EdwardIsland hosted the tournament thatwas due to begin on Thursday,November 10, but was delayeddue to extreme winds and heavyrain.

"It was the same for everyone,and it was for the best" said coachMike Mosher. All teams decidedthey did not want to risk playing inthe adverse conditions and decid-ed to proceed with gameS • onFriday. "Three games in three daysis difficult," commented Mosher,adding that the team was able tostep up to the challenge.

The guys came together andaccording to Mosher the team

Nineteen ninety-four was thelast time UBC won the men's soc-cer title at the national level. Thisyear's effective defense and pow-erful midfielders contributed tothe overall strength of the team.

After Christmas the team willtake to the field again to work ontheir development, competing ingames against local and US teams."We've got a pretty short, yetintense schedule, now it is timefor the guys to enjoy what they'veaccomplished," said Mosher.

As reigning champions nextyear UBC will be up for a differentchallenge. We know we're goingto lose a few players next year,"remarked Mosher. Next year UBCwill lose Steve DeBlasio, DaveWong, Darren Prentice and JonPoli due to graduation.

UBC has been a successful teamnot just because of their fine show-

NCAA status still far in BCfor Uurethe futby Megan Smyth

SPORTS EDITORUBC chose to enter the NAIA for

a variety of reasons, one or thembeing the relatively short timeframe necessary for full eligibilityin the league.

"The process in the NAIA is alot quicker than the NCAA, andthere are a variety of reasons forthat. Obviously those rules applynot just to us because we're a for-eign school; they apply to anyAmerican school that would applyas well," stated Philip.

UBC's entrance into the NAIA wasonly a one-year process. If we wereallowed to apply to the NCAA and ifwe did apply and if the applicationwas accepted, it would be probablysix to seven years before we wouldactually be competing unencum-bered," indicated Philip "The reasonthey have this two year period whereyou're not eligible for championshipsis so that you can get into your com-pliance without running a fowl oftheir regulations."

Obviously this is not an overnightprocess.

"It would take us a little whileto put together our applicationbecause we'd have to look at a lot

the NCAA and their applicationwas rejected due to the bylawagainst foreign schools.

"We've met with the NCAA and wehave been given some reason to sus-pect that the NCAA may change thebylaw, but more likely would look forsome other way to accept foreignschools,' said Philip.

UBC would be interested inapplying for Division I status,which requires at least sevenmen's and seven women's teamsto play within the league.

"We certainly do compete quitewell in some sports within NCAADivision I," noted Philip During exhi-bition play UBC has the opportunityto compete against US schools cur-rently in the NCAA league and thelevel of competition wouldn't be adrastic change from his perspective.

"We've done a lot of researchon the NCAA over the last severalyears, when we looked at all ouroptions we looked at the NAIA.We've only been in the NAIA for afew years," he clarified. "In fact westarted in the NAIA because wewanted a place for our baseballteam to play."

of things internally and then evenif it was accepted it's a fairly longprocess before we'd actually becompeting there," said Philip

UBC does not want to spendtime and money fighting rules thatmay never be changed, so "beforeyou go down that road you need tofind out if there is an opportuni-ty...so that's what we're trying tofind out. We've had some back andforth with the NCAA and let's put itthis way, in any discussions we'vehad with the NCAA ourselves, wehaven't been discouraged fromlooking at it further."

For now, and probably well intothe future UBC's varsity teams willcontinue competing in the leagues inwhich they are presently registered.

Philip maintains that theprospect of NCAA Division I statusis not going away, but adds that"it's a little premature to think thatwe're in the process of applying oranything because we're not goingto apply unless there was someassurance that the applicationwould be judged on its merit asopposed to coming head to headwith a bylaw." u

at improving itself and improvingits ranking in the world—the goal isto be the number one university,"commented Philip. "We're trying tofind the best level of competition wecan for Canadian athletes so thatthey'll stay in Canada and can playfor UBC and compete," he added.

The NCAA might be the answer.CIS regulations have strict caps on

the amount that can be spent onscholarships for athletes. The NCAAdoes not have these regulations. IfUBC were to change over to NCAA sta-tus, then hopefully fewer studentswould leave Canada for the elusivescholarship opportunities offered atUS universities.

"Why shouldn't athletes be able tofind a place in Canada? Of course therules in Canada mitigate against thatbecause there are limits on theamount of scholarship dollars youcan give," explained Philip

"The NCAA has rules against non-US schools joining, so all we've beentrying to do is contact the NCAA tofind out whether or not that rule willever change. We can't even replyright now," stated Philip

A few years ago SFU applied to

Rumours have circulated recentlyon the impending entrance of UBCathletics into the US NCAA league.

Director of Athletics andRecreation Bob Philip has metwith the NCAA, but at this point intime has only had one meetingwith the US organisation.

Currently UBC competes in theCIS, a Canadian league and the NAIA,a mixed American and Canadianleague. Some sports that are notoffered in these leagues compete intheir own sport specific leagues.

"We're basically just trying tosay that were offering opportuni-ties for Canadian athletes to getthe highest level of university com-petition and at the same time beable to offer athletic awards," stat-ed Philip.

Providing the best possibleexperience for UBC athletes anddissapointment with the operationand rules of the CIS has promptedthe athletics department to lookfor other options in recent years.

The university has been looking

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to terms with historyComingYou might have noticed that thereis a First Nations supplementtucked in the centre of thisweek's Page Friday. It's one ofmany special issues devoted tocomplex themes that the Ubysseyputs on stands annually. Otherissues include the Buy NothingDay supplement, the Women'sIssue, the Pride Issue, theColours Issue and Rant, a literarysupplement. But unlike the otherspecial issues in the Ubyssey pub-lishing year, this is only the thirdyear that we have put out a FirstNations supplement.

The supplement was created tofill a vast and unfortunate void inour newspaper. While we always tryto cover First Nations issues andpeople in our news, culture and fea-tures sections, the editors felt thatthere just wasn't enough coveragehappening on our part. We weremissing a First Nations voice. A first-person perspective coming fromAboriginals themselves was alsoabsent, even among the pages of ouranti-racism focused Colours Issue.

While it's not enough to coverthe complexities of the FirstNations people and the issues sur-rounding racism towards them,the supplement gives us thechance to shed light on at leastsome of these issues. More lightthan a campus paper with pagecounts limited by advertising cannormally provide. And we're cer-tainly not saying it's perfect.

We had a lot of trouble findinga coordinator for this year'sissue. 'While we have many differ-ent cultures represented here atthe Ubyssey, we don't have anyAboriginal writers or artists onour staff. So, recognising thisproblem, we tried to put out anissue that addresses the void ofFirst Nations writers in theUbyssey. But we are left with agroup of non-Aboriginals tryingto coordinate a First NationsIssue.

The topics we have chosen tocover, although they barelyscratch the surface, are importantones even if they are a little°whitey learns the truth" in theirnature. We must give specialthanks to Russel Wallace, a cre-ative writer at UBC, who suppliedthe creative writing portion of thissupplement. Still, if the subject isimportant enough to warrant itsown special issue, it's importantenough to continue covering inregular issues of the Ubyssey.

Our university is located onMusqeam land, and the FirstNations community is still under-represented in the student andstaff bodies. More disturbingly,many students are unaware thatUBC campus is in fact built uponAboriginal territory.

Every cultural group comes

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from a different background andstructure based on traditionalbeliefs and social institutions.How can we begin to share under-standing of each other?

Breaking down stereotypesand preconceived notions is onlythe beginning. The Ubyssey'sFirst Nations supplement aims topromote dialogue that is too oftensuppressed and ignored.

But it's precisely a dialoguethat we must begin to encourageif we, as students, are going tocreate a more fair and justCanada than the one we live inright now. The Kashechewan

"Yes because I was told it was reallygreat. I didn't like it. The totempoles looked completely out ofcontext."

evacuation, which saw almost1,900 people evacuated from areserve near James Bay severalweeks ago, was a necessary reve-lation: Aboriginal peoples in ourcountry live in what is commonlytermed as third world conditions.They have been shoved to themargins of society, to the periph-ery of the Canadian public's con-sciousness. It certainly chal-lenges our naive claim to be liv-ing in a nation that welcomesdiversity. How can we hope tochange this reality, or even hopeto be aware of it, if we don't makevigorous and personal efforts to

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creating a meaningful dialogue?It doesn't mean we have to

beat ourselves up about the situa-tion. Cross-cultural exchangescan be rewarding in their ownright, as some of us found outjust by putting this supplementtogether. It is true thatCanadians, Aboriginals and non-Aboriginals alike, have sometough issues to confront beforewe can build a country that canpride itself on respecting all of itscitizens. But our generation willat least need to get on speakingterms if we want to make thatchange. mi

PERSPECTIVE OPINIONCaveat emptor. BuyerbewareThe University of BritishColumbia campuses atVancouver and Okanagan are innegotiations over vendingmachines suppliers. UBCVancouver is trumpeting, LewisVending while UBC Okanaganhas yet to announce who it willchoose as vending frontrunner.All vending companies are claim-ing to offer healthier options thatshould be good for students.

'Yes because I'm a campus tourguide. It was fun.'

At UBC Okanagan, students,faculty and administration arepushing together for vendingfood that people can actuallythrive on: milk, fresh fruit, natu-ral food snacks and healthy pre-packaged meals; a step in theright direction. A mix of 80 percent healthy food and 20 per centtreat food is the vision.

— Viet Ha PhamCommerce 3

However, some of the foodlabeled as healthier, is not. Onething is certain, students shouldread nutritional content labels.

Vending companies will tell youthey are offering healthier options,yet these options often includesnacks high in salt, sugars, andtrans fats (much like their"unhealthy" option counterparts).Your vision of healthy food optionsand a vending corporation's arenot often one and the same.Nevertheless, with constant pres-

sure from student consumers onvending companies to offer afford-able and truly 'wholesome" snacks(at eye level) students can achievehealth from an automated box.

Some vendors are leading theway with truly healthy options:natural foods without additives(eg. nuts without salt and flavor-ings, locally produced healthyproducts, milk without sugaradded, or granola/nutritionalbars sweetened with dried fruit),organic products and fresh fruit.

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Remembering Dean George CurtisPublic memorial serviceheld for founder of the

UBC Faculty of Law

by Eric SzetoNEWS EDITOR

A small congregation gathered at the LawCourts yesterday to pay their respects to thefounder of the UBC Faculty of Law, DeanGeorge Curtis.

Dean of the Faculty of Law for a total of 26-years—the longest serving dean in UBC histo-ry,Curtis passed away this past October at theage of 99.

Even after his forma] retirement, Curtistaught well into his 80s. Many rememberhim making himself available to studentsand staff and always providing clever anec-dotes for all enquiries.

'Dean Curtis, in a plain factual study of thefaculty, left no one unconvinced of his capabili-ties," said UBC Chancellor Allan McEachern,who was mentored by Curtis. 'His enthusiasmwas infectious.'

"He was one of those deans who by sheerenergy, intellect and force of personality madesure that the educational message was deliv-ered loud and clear and with a huge measure oflearning with common sense, and often inhumour," he said.

Bertie McClean, a law professor at UBC,fondly recalled an elder Curtis holding up traf-fic—but not with his car.

'When he was in his early 90s, [the govern-ment] took his driving license, so he walked;and then in his late 90s he got a little shaky inhis legs and he had to use a walker. The walkerwas too wide for the University sidewalks soGeorge had to take to the road.

'Rather than hugging the curb, George

law would be interesting, let alone stimulating,'said Finch. 'Dean Curtis made it happen."

'I believe we all should have an abidingadmiration and respect for his vision, hiscourage, his dedication, and his hard work,'he said. it

well..." he added, causing the crowd to eruptin laughter.

Chief Justice Lance Finch, a graduate of UBClaw in 1962, noted how Curtis could make eventhe most menial of topics interesting.

Who would have thought that constitutional

would [travel] right up the centre [of the road].So it was not uncommon to find George and acouple of cars up the road," he said.

"And as some of you may know theUniversity is a bit of construction sight so onoccasion you could also see a large truck as

Canada's ambassador to France comes to campusby Laurence Butet-Roch

NEWS WRITERstreet riots, was aggressive andadded flames.

Godfrey recalled that Sarkozyused words like has 'scum' todescribe the rioters, and 'cleansing'to describe what had to be done.

Godfrey mentioned that the carburning strategy was part of theyouths' way of being heard. Shereported the words of a rioter:'nobody will listen to [the youth] ifwe don't burn cars."

No specific solutions were dis-cussed by the Panel, but Laverdureexpressed his concern that althoughthe 'measures announced. byVillepin [France's Prime Minister]show that they know what needs tobe done, the effects of those wouldonly show in ten years." •

the Faculty of Education, SimaGodfrey from the Institute ofEuropean Studies and HamidaBendriss from the Conseil ScolaireFrancophone de Vancouver.

The panelists reached consensuson the idea that it is an account ofFrance's failure to integrate theimmigrant population that hascaused the current riots.

Laverdure believes that if Canadasucceeded in integrating its immi-grants compared to France it is"because France has an imposedimmigration while Canada has achosen immigration."

The five panelists also sharedthe impression that the vocabularyused by French Interior MinisterNicolas Sarkozy, in response to the

Laverdure, lies in , the discussionboth countries hold on domesticissues—something that was unthink-able just a few years before.

'Not only do we trade with oneanother and invest in one another,but that we would on a daily basisdiscuss domestic issues...Twenty-five years ago this was not done,never would we make suggestion orexchange ideas about how to runyour own country even with yourbest friend,' he said.

The second part of his visit wasmeant to give insight into the ten-uous situation in France.Laverdure offered his take on therecent rioting alongside PhilippeLebillon, from the Liu Institute forGlobal Issues, Anne Simpson,from

Claude Laverdure, the CanadianAmbassador to France, paid a visitto UBC on. Wednesday to discussFranco-Canadian relations and thecurrent situation in France alongwith a panel of scholars and experts.

Laverdure has been theCanadian Ambassador to Francesince, 2003 after holding multiplepositions with La Francophonie, aninternational organisation, cora-primised of 63 states- and govern-ments. According to Laverduria,. thenature of Franco-Canadian rela-tions has considerably- changedsince 1969.

"The relations between Canada

and France today are one of the bestwe have...[relations] are nowmature, total and of major interestto both," said Laverdure.

Not only is. France the secondlargest investor in Canada, puttingin over. 32 billion dollars a year—at atie with the United . Kingdom—butCanada also has a lot of investmentsin France: "[Canada is] also relative-ly very big in comparison to our realsize in France,' he explained.

However, Laverdure expressedhis disappointment at the tradition-al trade relationship with France:"rm less satisfied witlt the tradition-al trade; the nun2hers are big, but .they should be bigger."

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Minister of Defence talks at UBCby Boris Korby

NEWS STAFF

AMS e-mail failsDon't feel insulted if you e-mailedthe AMS this week and didn'treceive a response—the AlmaMater Society (AMS) e-mail serverhas been out of service.

"Worst case scenario, the prob-lem should be fixed by the end ofthe week or the start of next week,"said Gavin Dew, AMS VP Academic,"But we hope it's sooner than that."

The source of the problem isunknown, but AMS staff cannot sendor receive e-mail with their accounts.

"We're not paralysed, we're stiloperational: said Dew, noting thatthe AMS has set up alternate e-mailaddresses in the interim.

Dew downplayed the suggestionthat malicious intent brought downthe server: "it's more of a problemwith the server itself than a hacker.'

The problem is compounded asthe AMS IT manager is on a cruisevacation and is unable to help fixthe server.

Several students were skepticalof the length of the service disrup-tion. Upon hearing of the IT man-ager's absence, fourth year Arts stu-dent Ryanne James, asked, "there'sno one else that can [fix the serv-er)? Isn't there a computer sciencedepartment?"

'It's a pain," stressed Dew butadded that the disruption proved,"just how big of a part the AMSe-mail really is."

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mission in Iraq, Minister Grahamwas clear on how the governmentperceives its role in the Middle East.

"We are not in Afghanistan insome sort of war mission...peoplewant us to be in that region, theywant stability. We're there to helpthem bring stability," he said.

"Please don't confuse this withan Iraq type situation or anythinglike it. It's not that. We're going to bewith our British and Dutch andAustralian allies who think the sameway we do and have very similarrules of engagement and [share acommon] approach in which we goout and work with local popula-tions: he said.

Professor Michael Byers, aca-demic director of the Liu Institutefor Global Issues, said the students

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The Canadian government's com-mitment to Afghanistan willincrease substantially over the nextseveral months, said Minister ofDefence Bill Graham lastWednesday.

In front of an audience com-prised of hundreds of students atthe Liu Institute for Global Issues,Bill Graham presented TheCanadian Forces Mission inAfghanistan: Canadian Policy andValues in Action, a speech onCanada's first new defence policyinitiative in the last ten years andhow it will apply to Canada's role inAfghanistan.

"By early next year, our militarypresence and role in Afghanistanwill be greater and more varied thanit has been to date, not withstandingsignificant contributions over thepast three years," said Graham

"Failed and failing states are amajor challenge to global peaceand security in the first part of the21st century," he added. "We mustaddress them not only because ofthe geopolitical instability theygenerate as breeding grounds forterrorism and internationalcrime—think only of New York,London, and Madrid—but alsobecause the suffering and denial ofhuman rights they represent chal-lenge basic Canadian values."

The Defence Minister spent thebetter part of an hour following hisspeech fielding questions fromUBC students on a wide array oftopics, ranging from the sovereign-ty of Canada's northern territory toaccusations of the government'scomplicity with torture by releas-ing detainees over to Americanforces, to the Canadian interven-tion in Haiti.

Responding to comparisonsmade between Canada's role inAfghanistan and the United States'

presented thorough questions to theminister and was impressed in thehonest and unreserved answers.

He did acknowledge, however,that his sentiments concerningCanadian defence and foreign poli-cy often conflict with those of thegovernment.

"[On] the issue of transferringdetainees in Afghanistan [to theUnited States] because we don'thave facilities to hold them our-selves, I find that a fairly weakexcuse given that Canada is theeigth largest economy in theworld," said Byers. "I would hopethat we could afford to build thefacility if that was what was neces-sary to avoid possible complicityin torture."

Fernando de la Mora, president

of the International RelationsStudent Association (IRSA), said hebelieves that having the opportunityto address a member of cabinet andask questions gives students insightinto government policy that mostwould not otherwise have.

"It's extremely valuable to beable to have that direct engagementbecause it spurs ideas and ultimate-ly can spur policy action on behalf ofstudents," de la Mora said.

"Obviously the Canadian Forcesare in a moment right now wheresome tough decisions have to bemade and I think based on theturnout and degree of interest thatthere was, it shows that UBC stu-dents care about the decisions thatare being made right now at theDepartment of National Defence." ii