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New Member"Siders" Down toEnjoy Mini'app'lesby Tom Edwa.rds

W e had a big turnout for theSeptember meeting at the U of M,St. Paul Campus. The enticement",as a Sider 10 meg hard drive, givenaway by the First Class Peri-pherals(FCP) company, who forged aheadeven though their star of the showhad been. lost by Western Airlines.

After a very .informative pre~sentation by FCP, three names weredrawn from the slips of all thosethat wanted to be part of the draw­ing. The first two, Donald Eckels,Jr. and Ken Keiser, were just to seeif the selection process was •. gettingany notice (it was). The "realthing" was won by Paul Leegard.

Paul had just joined Mini'app'­les that same evening. He said thatthis was a heck of a neat way towelcome in·· a . new. member, ••••. andasked if we do it for alL Sorry,Paul. You are "oneofa kind II forthe moment. But because of theturnout spurred by this dynamiteprize, this may be something thatwe can try again.

Thanks, First Class Peripherals!

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December 7: By popular demand, we have scheduled asecond Bi-Annual Apple Swap Meet.Please note that this event will be held ona Saturday, instead of our regularWednesday dales. Time will be 9:00 am to12:00 noon. Location, in Hopkins, is theEisenhower Community Center, at 1001Hiway 7 (north side of road - parking tothe west), between County Roads 18 and73. We will be using the cafeteria... justcome in the porticoed main entry and gostraight head. Bring all of those neatthings that you had to have, that are now abit jaded. Swap, sell or barter your way tosome fresh goodies to ready for the holidayseason.

Though schedules are not firm, you can look to a demoof the CheckMate hardware (big memories for /Ie & c) andsome software reviews from Broderbund. We might try toget Apple to tell more, following their Januarystockholder's meeting.

Remember, March will bring about nominations, andApril, elections. Of course there will be more on theprogram than that, but since I have to think that far out,you might as well too.

November 14 Accessing On Line Data Services byModem - Erik Carlson

December 12 Hardwllfe and Maintaince TipsJanuary 9 Softax,~5, A Federal and Minnesota tax

package for the tax accountant andpreparer. Ron Schlangen of Softev;

February 13 Panel discussion "The role oLMico-Computers in Business, Past, Pre.sent andFuture".

Spring meeting dates are March 13, iApril 10 and May15. Meeting subjects notschedult:dyetart:: RAMI)ISKS andHard Disks, Think Tank,lIn(j. RPI General Accounting(ProDos).

BUSi.n~ss SIG Meetings ResumeNeVVrp.e.eting Loc·ation

I Announcedby Dick Marchiafava

The new meeting location is the Minnesota FederalSavings and Loan located at 5320 Lyndale Avenue South.This is just ~orth of Diamond Lake Road on' LyndaleAvenue in south Minneapolis. We have this site fromSeptember through December and will try to reserve it forthe rest of our schedule as soon as the bank will take thereservation.

Meetings start at 7 PM with introductions, announce­ments and our Question and Answer session. Bring yourquestions, someone at the meeting may be able to helpyou. Bring someone to the meeting with you! You may usethe bank parkil1g10t.Entry is. lit the back of the building.The meeting roo.rn is\lpstairs.

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Plc;lnning .for MeetingsWhat to do When You Just Have toCatch ljp on Your Mini'app'lesby Tom Edwards .

Well, now that the Mac-Fest is out of the way, I (lanstart to do whaU'm 'sposed to do ... plan some meetings forthis

a presentation by Sorcim IUS (forNovernbe~r) on their SuperCalc3aprogram for the Apple II

this group, as nice as they all are,of a national computer show. Sorcimday and cancelled!A.nd you thought

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Announcemehts (Continued)

From the PCby David E. LadenBoard Activities

As you are awareiyou the club's business is conductedby an eleven member board. The board· holds regularmeetings to discuss programs, special events, policy, andfinancial affairs of the group.

The next meeting of the board is Wednesday December4, 1985 at 7:00 p.m. As always, the meeting is open toall Mini'app'les members. In fact, you are encouraged toattend and let your views be known. At press time, thelocation is still unknown. Feel free to call me at 488-6774for the location or to discuss any matter related to the club.

HELP WANTED-. Membership. KitsMini'app'les has a position available for someone to

assemble, coordinate, and. mail Membership Kits to theclub's new members. You would receive a list of newmembers each month and then assemble and mail the kits.If you are interested in helping out your club in thiscapacity, or would like more information, please call HughKurtzman (544-7303) or David Laden (488-6774). Thank

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Mini'app'les Markdown MarketOne of the advertised club benefits is the ability to

save money through bulk purchases. Also, as. stated on thenewsletter title page, the club "does promote distribution ofinformation which may help club members to identify thebest buys and services." .

With these'goals in mind, we would like to make you,the member, more aware of the "good buys." MarkdowrtMarket will make its debut soon. What this continuingcolumn will do is to list all of the retail establishmentswilling· to give Mini'app'les members a discount· onpurchases.

Now that you get the picture ($$$ in your pocket),let'sget to the details. The purpose of this column is to listvendors offering a Mini'app'les discount. The discountmust be offered on a continuing basis (Le. this colutnrt cannot be used to "advertise" one tirnepromotional discounts).The discount may· apply to all purchases or just purchasesof selected items or· categories (Le. 10% discount ortdiskette purchases, or. JO% discount .on· software, 15%discount on hardware); Even if the discount is limited toceJ:tain .categories, the important.· thing to remember· is tobe consistently for those categories (the category(s) cannot change from month to month).

It is the dealers' responsibility to establish thediscount amount and items to which the discount applies.Dealers are also responsible for verifying Mini'app'lesmembership (each member is issued a membership card forsuch a use).

We are in the process of assembling a list of dealer~

willing to participate in this service to Mini'app'lesmembers. Vendorll. interested. in participating may d<) so bycalling Keith Madonna at 474-3876 after 5:00 p.m.

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around. Everyone can have a chance to let the Mac helpthem have fun doing "artsy" things. Give it a whirl, thenext time that you see an art contest where you can use theMac.

Thanks, First Class Peripherals!

November 1985

Investment SIGby Eric Holterman

The Investment SIG needs help NOW. I am not able tocontinue being the Coordinator for the Investment SIG.

If you have any interest in this position, please callme at 822-8528 OF Dick Marchiafava at 572-9305. Thereare volunteers, including me, who will help the newcoordinator with meeting ideas, presentations, locations,etc. The new Coordinator will not be starting out fromscratch. The main qualification is a desire to learn moreabout investment related applications of your Apple.

I have found the time I put in as Coordinator to beboth fun and rewarding, and have made new freinds withsimiliar interests. I havealso found thathaving put a littleextra effort into Mini'app'les, I have gotten many timesthat effort back. I encourage you to do the same.

Mac-Fest Shows OffMacArtworksby Tom Edw~rds

The September Mac-Fest show at the Hyatt-Regencypaid off for Mini'app'les and several Mini'app'les members.In addition to the booth space that won the Club about 4dozen new members, there was and art contest that wonsome prizes for 5 of the entrants. Prizes ranged from a128K Mac first place, to a Mac carry pack at fifth place.There were about 90 entries total, with 30 being selected tobe "hung" (all were displayed at the show). The artists hada lot of different techniques and subjects to show off theway that Mac can play Picasso. The top five winners were:I Miriam Edwards Kimono Triptic2 James Williams Pianocopia-l; Piano Bar Rhapsody3 Tom Edwards Harbor at Sunset (Please Nou - Ed.)4 Dave Stovall Three Racoons5 Richard Raygor Great Blue Heron

The class demonstrated at this first event suggests thatthe competition will really dazzle your eyes the next time

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Apple /1 Forever: The Story. .' Be,ginning

parts written by CQlin Ma.nsfield for the slot that the card is in. The card provides a serialas scavenged by Tom Edwards stream of data in response. (No price or release date Was

d mentioned, but I heard from an Apple dealer, somewhere,. an . that it should be out in October or November arid priced at

" DickMarchiafava under,$500 for I-meg.) ..1st Scavenger's Note: I prowl around on the The SOOk 3.5" drive will have a list price of $500 and

CBC Bulletin Board fairly regularily. I came will require a $69 controller card for the lIe. It usesacross some postings by Colin Mansfield, where double-sided disks. It will require Ilc owners to make

. he passes along some information to Daisy modifications to their drive firmware. It does not supportChain, psuedonym for another another interesting DOS 3.3 or CPIM and programs in Pascal will have to becharacter that frequents the CBC BBS. With all of revised to use it. The lO-meg Sider costs $695 (plus $15the high-level interest in AppleWorks that has shipping), supports DOS 3.3, ProDOS, Pascal and CPIMbeen running rampant within the Club lately, I and is three times fast~r than a floppy (at least!). Atthought that some of the notes from Colin would $569+disks for the new Apple floppy drive, and ONLYbe interesting to a lot of our members. working with ProDOS (no matter how good it is), •there

Colin consented to my downloading the notes seems to be no comparison in either performance or priceand presenting them here, for your pleasure. I to the Sider hard disk!have changed only a few minor things to' add Apple's memory expansion seems to suffer from thecontinuity for our newsletter format. I hope that same problems, in a way. Next to AppleWorks, the twoyou too, find the information of interest. next best-selling items for the lIe are the. Sider and the

Colin is in his middle 30's, moving to the Applied Engineering RamWorks cards (or theUSA from England about 15 years ago. He'isa Checkmate, Legend, etc. cards) which emulate Apple'smusician, composer and producer, and has 0\Vned a own protocol for the SO-column cards. As prices for largelIe for about a year and.a half. He uses the lIe to memory cards has plummeted this year (aI-meg card fromfurther his interest in music, and graphics,' with a AE lists at $519 right now), and· third parties have beenside j aunt noW and then into the world>Of concentrating on expanding THEIR software to work withcommunications. I think that you'll agree that his them (SuperCalcetc.), Apple comes along a year lateenjoyment of the Apple, and concern for its with something totally different (once more!)."forevenless", is evident from his thirst for The question iSi who is Apple going to sell thesestaying abreast of neW developments and speaking things to? With the possible exception of the newout with some opinions. Do you agree Colin? monitors. (if they do what theys~y. they will, they'll. be a

much better deal than ROB), I can see only Edsels thiswinter. An SOOK, ProDOS-only drive is great for backingup your 5-meg ProDOS-only ProFile... maybe that's· whatit's fol'! But for any Apple'rs who have been around forany length' of time (possibly including myself, although Ihave only had mine a little over a year and so am Ii merewhippersnapper compared to many) there is much, much,more time and money invested in the older systems. Toomuch to say goodbye to it now.

Weisshaar and many others have 'said it before; butApple owners are very loyal to Apple. If they need asecond computer, their first choice is usually Apple (andmany Apple owners have 2 of them). Another thing aboutApple owners; they're not stupid (I read the results of aCall A,P.P.L.E. survey in the same issue of Open­Apple. We're a very distinguished bunch!). They won'tput up with too much more Of this kind of marketingidiocy. (By the way, the marketing people have dumpedthe Ilc lady - the· one' on the old Ilc box'~ in favour of amale corporate climber in their' new ad camp.aign. Somuch for the aware, forward-looking image!).

What a tirade! Sorry togo on so long on this, but itdoes seem important.·

So, it seems that Apple is very much in danger offalling behind third- party developers in the tech game.(O?e of the third parties is likely to be Steve Jobs, whoqUit Apple and took several of Apple's staff with him.Apple iS,of course, suing.)

Apple Notes by Colin Mansfield:I have been gone from this board quite a while, and I

have a few Apple tidbits for you (and other II'ers). First,I called First Class Peripherals today and was. told toexpect the ?O-meg "Sider" in November. This was as I wasordering the new software and manual for my litUe10-megdisk. Secondly, Tom Weisshaar in the October Open­Apple has a not-quite-scathing editorial on Apple's latesthardware announcements. You may know that Apple hasannounced two new composite colour monitors for the ][line, one to match the lIe and one for the Ilc. Apparentlythey will display SO-column text as well as graphics,possibly heralding the end of ROB's for the Apple. Theywill plug into the RCA video jack, requiring no specialinterface and they list at about $400. Apple alsoannounced an SOOk, 3S' drive for the Ilelc, a memoryexpansion board (up to I-meg) for the ][+/Ie, arid theImageWriter2. The memory card does not replace theextended SO-column card, but will go into an "unused" (myquotes - I haven't any!) Slot. It does not use the samememory management as the Applied Engineering orCheckmate cards (bank-switching, much the same thingthat happens when using the auxillary memory of anextended SO-column card). It is accessed by continuallyPEEKing and POKEing the same softswitch memory address

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I'll try not to be away so long next time. This takestoo much .time typing all in by hand! (Not next time, butmaybe the time after that, I'll try using AppleWorks withmy new Pinpoint accessories to call here...)

Hoping all's well,Colin

... and the info continues to come in!

Mo.re Apple Stuff by Colin Mansfield:It was true before, but now that we have T-Mail, more

true than ever... Anything I post here, I expect to be read(dissected, questioned, scoffed at and, perhaps, appreciated)by any that can and care to, no matter to whom it wasaddressed.... Thanks for leaving the messages up. I sendthem to you because I feel you have an interest, but if Idecided to ge~ personal, I'd use the mail.

That said, 'on to the rest.I've heard of people hard-switching the old and new

proms (even read instructions on how to do it, somewhere)but have not met one that hasactually done it. I can seewhy one might want to do it, although, as I mentionedbefore, I've only had a few programs that wouldn't work(David's Midnight Magic was replaced by Broderbund - whoare replacing my DazzleDraw right now. Beagle's DossBoss and Datamost's Bilestoad are the others that come tomind, and those I can live without.) but then I've only hadthe Apple for a little over a year... If I had been usingsomething for several years, and felt that it might notwork, I would probably not buy the upgrade, at least, notbefore trying backups of my favourite or most usedprograms on an enhanced machine, to see if it really is aproblem. The only real reason to upgrade is forso.ftwarethat requires it (Jeeves, Supercalc 3a, MouseWrite, etc.). Ifyou have no need of the sQftware, you have no need toupgrade (except that the screen does work mor~ smoothly,even some older programs work better, you have a built-inassembler and more opcodes...)

I am.notsure that Pinpoint requires the enhanced lie,in f;lCt, I think they've tried to make it compatible witholder Apples, but don't. quote me. I believe, if you can runAppleWorks, you .c.an run Pinpoint. (If I had Pinpointnow, I'el. pe sending this from AWand I'd be able to readth~downloads I have in AW .about it, from the desktop.As it is, I have to rely on memory (a frail thing at best) toserve me...)

Well, I found out tonight (from Compuserve) thatPinpoint does, indeed, require a Ilc or enhanced lIe.Apparently it relies very heavily on the new 65C02instruction set and uses Mousetext in its displays. I alsofound .out that Pinpoint plans on having many updates tothe main program and expects quite a few add-ons for it; adedicated graphics program, for one. (The originalpinpoint will be able to merge graphics from MousePaint,Dazzledraw and Beagle Graphics directly into AppleWorkstext. I imagine the dedicated graphics program will have atleast the capabilities of Dazzledraw, and may be a lot moresophisticated.) .Anyway, that's another very good reason to take the plungeand upgrade, but it's still not too important, right now. Iwould imagine that it'll be quite important by next year,though. (Of course, one could wait and see if there willindeed be a 65816 upgrade available and do the whole thingat once, but then you'd only have to re-learn one systeminstead of two. Kinda takes the fun out of it...)

On a brighter note, one of the founders of PinpointCorp. is now a regular on CompuServe. Although therelease date for Pinpoint's premier product has been putback till Oct. 14th, it is the brightest and most excitingpiece of software to happen in quite some time. If youhaven't seen the ads by now, PInpoint describes itself asan add-on for AppleWorks, adding 9 new features: AnAppointment Calendar, Notebook, CommunicationsWindow, Telephone Dialer, Envelope Addresser, GraphicsMerge, Line Typer (to the printer) and more. All of thesefeatures load in with AppleWorks and are accessed by aClosed-Apple-P command. It leaves the standard 55Kdesktop intact and is transparent until called.

What they don't mention in the ads are some of themost exciting features (after giving AppleWorks many ofthe things it lacks). Pinpoint is compatible with ANYProDOS program. All features can be added to any of yourown (Pascal: Ed) programs as well as to some othercommercial programs. Pinpoint will take advantage ofthe AE RamWorks cards automatically, but also looksfor the fastest storage device, whatever that may be, andworks with it,speeding up programs considerably. (Theywill be offering Pinpoint bundled with RamWorks cardsshortly.)

Pinpoint offers the capability of merging graphics(from Mousepaint, Dazzledraw or Beagle Graphics)directly into AWdocuments. The Telecommunicationswindow. works with Hayes compatible modems and cansend AW files with no· conversions. Anything. that can bedownloaded is also saved directly to AppleWorks. Thispackage seems to be really powerful and also seems able togrow with you and your system.

Pinpoint. is also planning to release a 5-functionsp~lling checker and a utility that Graphs data taken fromyourAW files. Needless to say, I have had a copy on orderfor quite. some time, and hope· to put a review up here assoon as lean. (If you can't wait, you can call (415) 530­172(j and order a copy to be shipped on the 14th.)

Well, that's quite enough for tonight, so I'll stopranting for a whil~.

In regard to your question (l st scavenger's... Daisymust have asked Colin where he goes to get all of thisinformation): I really have no real "inside" informationbut I do try to read everything that I· can, and evenremember and understand some of it! CompuServe is agreat source for this stuff, as well as for hands-onrecommendations. I also read all the ads; they sometimes

Ram Works ads look the same, the prices and upperlimits of memory have been changing drastically. The topmemory right now is 2.5 meg, at $1599. The original 1meg card came out at $1600, and now sells for $519! Ialso read the new Video-7 RGB extended 80-column cardad and found out that they're selling their new cards bundledwith Dazzledraw..The original Dazzledraw didn\workwith any RGB, but, seeing this ad, I figured that 'a newversion was out. I called Broderbund who said an updatedDazzledraw would be out at the end of October, but if Isent them my original disk, I could get the upgrade rightaway, as they were only waiting for the packaging. (Iwanted Dazzledraw to go with Pinpoin t, so I ordered anew copy and sent it right on to Broderbund - devious,but fast!» So, anyway, my sources are right there in theopen, I simply try to put it all together and make sense ofit all.

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Apple II Forever (Continued)

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The interest appears to be more than passing. Applerecently demonstrated Checkmate's products on cabletelevisioll·• AndF".',V Nj~Il1ic,

prellident of Creckmate said, "Apple Computer isexpectedito switr<its Apple /I line to the 65C816micr9PF9c~ssorjlliil~86 and .our product proves thetechn91()~y\.i~so\lnd~n4\'Nehave made it available today tokeepe~is~ill~Appleco1l1puters up to date."

Niemic said his company is building the promotion ofits MultiRam EXICx enhancement around the slogan "Apple16 Forever!" Well, we have been waiting for the release ofthe 8/16-bit processor from someone, anyone, for about ayear. It is a reality now. As software firms adapt theirexisting 16-bit software to run in the new Appleenvironment I predict that we will see some interesting,powerful and desireable applicationsoftware.available forthe no longer humble Apple II.

The 16-bit EXICx Kit option to upgrade the MultiRamcards has a suggested price of $149.95. New MultiRamscan be ordered with the option.

Apple II Forever - Dick's part:

p.s. By the way, upgrades of Pinpoint will cost $10 eachfor the first year. Greg Hastings (co-owner of Pinpoint)intimated that there will be some third-party add-ons forPinpoint (and AppleWorks using Pinpoint) coming out, andthat they won't be upgrades (Le. they'll cost extra). I'mnot sure that I mentioned that the kemal of Pinpoint issupplied and copyable from the original disk. This meansthat you'll be able to use Pinpoint directly from your ownProDOS programs... The manual is 200 pages, and a lot ofit will have to do with just that.

And now to the 2nd scavenger - Dick Marchiafava whoscavenged the following from a Checkmate TechnologyDealer Product Introduction release and from The ArizonaRepublic newspaper.

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Apple /I Forever (Continued)

RUMOR: The next Applell will have megabytes ofmemory, compatibility with all existingsoftware and. 16-bit computing power.

For further information contact Dick at 612-572-9305.

LrFACT: That Apple is here today.

Checkmate Technology, Inc. of Tempe Arizona,. amanufacturer of interface boards for the Apple ][ and IIfamily of computers has announced the release of an>8­biUl6-bit processor for the Apple lie IIc.

The products, their MultiRam EX Card and NultiRamCX Card, uses the Western Design Center 65C816microprocessor. This processor allows an Apple to tunexisting 8-bit software, and then switchinto16-bit modefor more computing power than an IBM-PC.. The EX>andCX. work with the firm's MultiRam. memory ••. expansionboards for the Apple lie and IIc.

The MultiRam family was designed around the 65C816.The 65C816 brings two unique benefits to the Apple: rawcomputer power and software compatibility. It is 100%compatible with today's software. In the 16-bit mode itchanges from a 65C02 into a CPU that can directly address16 megabytes of memory, and will operate up to 4 timesfaster than a standard Apple. The MultiRam willautomatically select the proper processor mode to run thesoftware booted in the drive.

The CX and Ex fit inside an Apple IIc or plug into alie making an a Apple that is Fatter than a Mac! Whew! Allof that and 16-bit processing too!

The CXIEX operate existing DOS and ProDOS software,and in 16-bit mode run the MAX-OS system that turns theApple into a multi-user, multi-tasking machine that willcompute circles around Big Blue!

Apple is aware of Checkmate's work, said LindaMerrill, Apple Computer Inc. product publicity manager.And, although it is company policy not to comment onspecific businesses supporting Apple hardware, she did say"it's in line with our whole strategy in working with ourdevelopers."

Checkmate's products, Merrill said, "expand ourcapabilities by offering more functionality. All of thesekind of products benefit us and help sell our computers."

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November

Msby Steve George

{There seems to be some slight confusion about the priceof our software. See the masthead page for a fullexplanation. Generally, all 5 114" disks we make available(whether they're Public or Personal Domain) are $5 at themain meeting. Anytime you see a separate fee listed for adisk, that is the fee requested by the author to leaglly use aPersonal Domain disk and is sent directly to the author.}

Are you ready to sit down and learn how to programyour Pumpkin, ahh, err, APPLE yet? If so, this month'sfirst disk titled Mini'app'les DOM #38 'BASICProgramming I' is sure to interest you. Are you aninstructor or teacher? Then Class Records may be justwhat you're looking for. Lastly, Sparkee requires noeffort on your part to enjoy. A good 'relaxer' after all thatprogramming and student grading! Its a hires graphicsdisplay disk which is meant to be viewed while listening tomusic.

Mini'app'les DOM #38(DOS format){aka Ba~ic~r~gr~[l[li.I'lS ...1}

This is av~ryJ.lic;eintr04u()tion.to the Wodd ofprogramming your Apple. Tw().tut()~i~ls a~~ ip91\ld~d:ioneon the BASIC language and the other 011 11111chinell1nguage,using the miniassembler which is an integrlllpart of theInteger BASIC language. This language is provided on diskfor all owners of ][+, lIe & c's. Two programs deal withthe use of 'cony\,:ntions' when writing 80d\,:,

The full CATALOG listing of programs on DOM#38follows:

A DISK SUMMARYBASIC TUTORIALBASIC PROGRAMMING IBASIC PROGRAMMING 2BASIC PROGRAMMING 3BASIC PROGRAMMING 4CONVENrIONSDOM 38 LOGO.CHIRES.UNPACKINTBASICLOADER.OEJOMICRO 6502 SIMULATIONMINI ASSEMBLER TUTORIALMINI'APP'LESSWEET 16 DISASSEMBLERTOP DOWN PROGRAMMINGZPROG.LIST

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Class Records(DOS format)

This is a Personal Domain disk which automates therecord keeping for instructors. Primarily designed for thehigh school or college level, it includes several nicefeatures not generally found in grading programs.

When you send them the fee they request for its use,you will receive in return a user support number, a diskettelabel for your Class Records disk, and informationregarding updates. All updates to this version (2.0) cost$5.

Please see the review of this program else where inthis issue. (Many thanks to Mike Dirks -- educator andfuture Mini'app'les member!)

Class Records (c) 1983 Educator SoftwareRequestedfee: $30

Sparkee (DOS format)Here's a real treat! This disk makes use of hires

graphics like you've never seen before; If you are at allfamiliar with another Personal Domain disk we have calledFire Organ, then you get the general idea. If this is all newto .you or you've forgotten, here's a brief attempt todescribe this unique disk.. Sparkee is 'A Fire Organ Album'which utilizes'CEEMAC', the 'Visual CompositionLanguage' (available from Vagabondo Enterprises). What arecord album is to your ears,Sparkee is to your eyes. Itissuggested that the visual is augmented by your favoriteaUdio, so 'toin it up'!!

Keyboard input of A through Z will cause a different'score' to begin execution. At any time, you can· hit thespace-bar and 'freeze' the action. Another press starts thedisplay again. If what you've frozenis of value, you cansave the stationary display, too. Directions are containedin th.e file '@LINER NOTES'. Paddle 1· inpllt affects therunning of some scores, as do the Buttons (or open andclosed Apples on a lIe & c).

This is the updated version (now works with the lIe &c) and could possibly cause to you to spring for that newcolor monitor! !

Sparkee (c) 1982 Ken SherwoodRequested fee: $0

Notice

Those of us who do business at the Ho.useof Forms wish to express our sympathy toDelores Miskovicz, who recently lost herson in an auto accident. Delores is storemanager at House of Forms.

• mini'app'les - __ November 1985

PrinterControl Codes

Sending Printer Control Codes From WithinApple lie Programs

by Dick MarchiafavaSome software programs have an option which allow theuser to send printer setup codes from within the program.This. would be used in programs which do not user printerdriver or configuration files. Typically, spreadsheet anddatabase programs operate in this manner to let the usershift to a condensed mode or bold face, etc.

Just about the time that I had figured out how to sendthe necessary codes from within MagiClllc to my Epsonprinter with my Apple ][+, I got a new Appie lie. This wasfollowed shortly by a new C.Itoh ProWriter printer. Ifound that with the new equipment I could not setup· theprinter from within MagiCalc any longer.

Sending the new codes necessary as described ihtheprinter manual did not did not bring any results.. Theprinter stubbornly remained in the. normal default tn0de. Itook my software to a friend who has· the same tn0delprinter to have him show me what to do. In. minutes theprinter was being put through it's paces at his command. Itseemed to work so simply!

Soon, I tried to apply the demonstrated commands athome. Failure! I just could not get it to work even thoughI was entering the ASCII ESCAPE codes correctly.

Now and then a scrap of what had been entered as acode would print at the top of the test page sent to theprinter. Wait a minute! Control codes are not supposed tobe printed, they are supposed to be executed by the printer!Part of what was being entered was printing, therefore theprinter was not seeing .the string being sent as a validcode. Why?

Wait! I have an Apple lie which has an upperllowercase keyboard! The codes which include and upper caseletter such as "ESC P" (condensed mode) are not getting anupper case letter. I locked the CAPS LOCK key and triedagain. Failure again!

The scraps of codes being printed on the test pageremained the same. It was obvious that the printer stillwas not getting the upper case codes that it requires.

For no good reason that I can express I tried enteringthe codes by using the SHIFT key when an upper case letterwas called for. Sweet Success!! I soon had my printer doingall of it's tricks.

I do not know Why the program would not recognizethe upper case letters being sent with the CAPS LOCK keydown, but would recognize upper case sent with the SHIFTkey d0v.'n.MagiCalc does. not print to the screen theprinter code· strings being entered. If it did the cause ofthis difficulty would have been apparent. Not all softwarev.'hich allowthei entry of printer code strings display thekeystrokes being entered on the screen.

If you have had trouble· entering printer codes with anApple lie or lie try using the SHIFT key where upper caseis called for. .•. ·.·i.· .. n

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label as above. Perhaps there is an answer in hightechnology! There are greeting cards which talk, sing orplay music when they are opened. How about a disketteshipper which will yelp, whimper and sob loudly when it isbent?

I have notified the Postal Service and the shippers ofthese .problems. The Postal Service only suggested the useof rigid plastic disk shippers (which are expensive).

Some consideration of packaging should made whenshipping disks, whether you use the Postal Service, UPS orother delivery service.

If you need to ship a few disks you may want to usethe method that I do. When shipping disks I use 2 piecesof corrugated cardboard which I cut to fit in a manilaenvelope. The corrugated pieces are cut so that thecorrugations run in opposing directions. In addition I put alabel with a caution similar to the one above. This makesa package which is stiff enough that it dissuades ,anyonehandling it from bending it.

I don't know what to do about the mail handlers who

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In spite of the labelillg an attempt had been made tofold these packages which had single disks in them. Thesedisks survived and are doing well.

The. c.ardboard "envelopf' with the two dillks areadifferent matter (which I will not blame the Postal Servicefor). With the disks and accompanying documents this"envelope" was tightly packed. When I tried to run both ofthe disks (which looked perfect) I found that I got a lot ofDOS error messages. A close examination revealed thatboth disks had been compressed so firmly that the jacketswere pressing on the disk surface with enough force toprevent the drives from turning the disks inside the jackets!

ProblemsShipping 51/4"

Diskettesby Dick Marchiafava

In the last 6 months I have had occasion to both ship andreceive diskettes by mail. I believe that the disketteswhich I have sent out have been received in good order. Ican not say the same. for some to the disks which havebeen sent to me.

Twice I have received envelopes containing 2-3diskettes from northern Minnesota. These disks had beensent to me by a client to determine if they had failed and ifso how.

On the first occasion the diskettes were packaged in apadded "Jet Pack" envelope. When I opened the package Ifound that the disks had been folded in what I could onlydescribe as a very vigorous manner.

The disk jackets were so badly creased that I did notdare to run them in my drives! The disks in the secondshipment a few months later did not fare quite so badly.They had also been Jolded during handling.• However, Iflattened them out and JoundJhaLmydisk drives were ableto read them.

After both incidents I warned the client about mailingdisks without using something in the package to stiffen it,arid to use a caution label.J\lst rec~nt1yJ J."ec~iyed 1:l1lc:,lcQYU1~.ilZ4islcs I had Ilellt to IIsoft\'{ar~ publisher .out west (orexafllination. Adayortwolater· another shipment with II •.single 4isk came from thesame shipper. Later an update disk came to. me fromhardware mal1~facturer. These disks werep~clc~d in acardboard "envelope" with. tuck in tabs on thenaR'"envelope" measures 6 X 9 inches. These "envelopes"prominently m.arked something like thill:

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'* mini'app'les November 1985

A Software Reviewby Michael Dirks

C lass Records is a grading system for. secondaryschool and college level instructorS.. It isbyWa/t Wi/sonand Nick Brown from EdUcator· Software, 300 LicacDrive, Los Osos, CA 93402. The first four screens frombooting consist. of .title .page, credits,·.· sales information(this disk is currently' being. sold personal domain), andupdate information (this versionis 2.0).

Next we are met with the top level of CLASSRECORDS' menu which contains the following six options:

1. View the manual (on the screen)2. Print the manual (on the printer)3. Run the SETUP program4. Run the CLASS RECORDS program5. Review the sales information6. Quit

Option (6) needs no explanation except to say thatANY "quit" option encountered in this program puts youcompletely outside the program. OptiOn (5) kicks youback to the opening title screens (don't worry about gettinglost - tapping a few/spacebars \\fill bringy~u.back to/themain menu).•• Option (l)allows you i.tovie',Vithe iextensiyemanual on the screen -85 screens to be exact->youevenget asked if your APPLE can display lower case. If you gettir7d of reading the screen you can exit with a. simple ESCat any time and you will be back at the main menu. Bythis time you may want a hardcopy, option (2), but makesure you have enough paper: it takes 30 printed pages.Overall, the manual is very helpful and specific, but thereare a few typos that I spotted:

Class Records credits information), and QUIT (which returns you toApplesoft). The final two options allow you to RUNCLASS RECORDS or to RUN CLR MAIN. These twoprograms are identical except that CLASS RECORDS isloaded into memory in one chunk and cuts down on diskaccess (saving on time), whereas CLR MAIN loads onlythose parts of CLASS RECORDS which are in actual use(saving on computer memory, allowing for an extremelylarge class).

Back to the main menu, the only remaining choice isoption (4), running the CLASS RECORDS program(finally). Options at this level include:

• LOADing and SAV(E)ING data (there is some room onthis disk for student data, and other data disks may beused as well)

• MODIFYing parameters (back to option 3)• QUITing (to Applesoft)• ADD NEW DATA - either new scores, new names, or new

ID's• CHANGBDATA - either names, ID's, scores or percentage

breakpoints may be changed; students may be added ordeleted; and a class may be sorted by names orID's;

• GRADING SUMMARY ~ scores of the specified class andexams are displayed,with options for mean, standarddeviation, and. histogram;

• VIEWing and PRINTing - by name .or ID number, witheither rawscofesfor.single exam,rawscores withcumulative total points, or with standardized scoreformat; => 16

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Besides these few details., the manuel isvery&ood.andvery .• thor()ugh. Well, el1O\lgh~bout the lllal1HaL .. let'stl\kea closer look at the a~tltel grading progrllm.i<\/>i/

Option (3)rtms the .SETUP program whichy?uW?\l~duse tos7tup the parameters specific to your syst(llllandforyour classes. (The menu opti?ns are UPPE~i9AS~.)

CI-J.i\NGE~}{AMPARAMETERSa¥ows you to adjust?le~~sites, •.it:xams (assignments, quizeS, etc) allowe~,. na.melepgm,IB l(lngth, have letter grades on print()ut,~nd

d(lt7rnUne .standard percentage equivalants and breakpoints.\,()U can even choose between grading on a percentage ofthetotaLppssible or()f the top. sco~.e obtail1ed. .i • . ' Ariyoft~(lse parameters can be changed from class to i class or evenfr()ID exam to exam. CHANGE SCREEN/KEYBOARDPARAMETE.R,S allows you to select between upper or lowercase. output and 40 or 80 column capabilities. CHANGEPRINTER PARAMETERS allows for parallel or serielprinters and can even adapt to any smaller font capabilitiesyour printer might have. Again, any of these parametersmay be changed at. any time. Other. options includeSAVEing PARAMETERS, LOADing NEW PARAMETERS,USER INFORMATION (another shot at the sales policy and

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• Mlnl'Scrlp Checkbook Financial System - MSD#1. A home and small business checking andaccounting package by leighton G. Siegel.

• Higher Text Extensions - MSD #3. ContainsHigher PrintbyD~n Buchl~r, Message ~~k~r

by . Ch.ar I es>C./ Boody .' and HigherWqrd"'processor by Don Hagberg.',

Higher Print provides a high density printcapability with a ~electlon of fonts and moreIt. you own Higher Text from A.P.P.l.E. Thenewsletter headers. and logo are printed withHigher Text.MEt~sage Mf)kerrequ IresTEXT. I t< serve s" as adisplay, on your screen,up and d~wn I eft anduseful things.Higher Word Processor I s a easy to use II neoriented text editor suited to letter writingand everyday home use. It Integrates withHigher Print.

AI I MSDs are available at meetings, to membersonly, for $15, or by mall from TerrySchoeppner for $17.50. See classified ads •

,• mini'app'les ,November 1985

Class Records (Continued)

This is a summary of the CLASS RECORDS, program.The manual continues on' from here with more explanationsand examples (the disk even comes with two "classes"complete with 'scores so that you don't have to put in lotsof keyboard time just to see how CLASS RECORDS actuallyworks). In general, CLASS RECORDS is a v/?ry delightfulprogram; however,' I can think of two disadvantages basedon my experience with other grade management programs (Iteach math and computer science at' the seventh gradelevel):

• No option for l2-point grading system (A-,B+,B,B­etc)

• No option fOf individual student progress report(something that can be sent home to parents)

On the other hand, there are many nice features:

• Sort by name or ID number• Upper and lower case capability (even with 11+)• Compatible lIe 80 character board, and others• Extra credit point handling capabilities• Generous allowances for class size/number of exams• Grading off the top score or out of total possible• Cumulative totals with current letter grade available

anytime• Options for weight factors and dropping hillo scores

In conclusion, this grading system is very thoroughwith its many options for the keyboard, printer, andscreen, and with its flexibility in grading options. Theprogram is very hard to crash (I have not succeeded yet),and you are constantly being reminded of how muchcomputer memory space is currently free to use. Foreducators, this is worth looking at.

(Editor's note: Mike Dirks is an educator. Thisprogram is being distributed as part of Mini'app'lesDOM#38 - see description elsewhere in this newsletter.)

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Modem & MaBellby Steve George

SuddenlY,modems seem to be a very popular itemwith our members. So naturally, it would be nice to have ademonstration about how they work, right? Rec/?ntly r wasunable to attend a 'modem meeting'but volunteered to help­out by making my phone line available for whateverpurpose the meeting coordinator deemed necessary. (As abulletin board, someone to simply type to, etc.)

The evening arrived, and modem connection wasattempted. After about three failed attempts with onesoftware pack;age, I started to answer the photie, voice forthe next few calls. The calls kept coming from theirmodem, so I tried another software package three times,then answered voice several times. I changed a fewparameters and answered the next few calls with software,but we just couldn't get connected. Then I, like so many ofyou, began picking up the phone (again) to speak with thecaller so we could rectify the situation and get on with thedemo. But no... The caller was in 'auto-dial'. In thisparticular case, unknown to the caller, he was using anincompatible software package.

The upshot of all this is if a modem isn't working,don't keep perpetuating the problem, but use old fashionedvoice and pick up the phone. Most likely, that's all it willtake to solve the problem.

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'* mini'app'les N,ovember 1985

"What ifs?" and much

those provided by Jazz:

3, 1600 for 3, 5200,111U,JO"'u,·T~uu,5700,5700,6100,6800,7000,7200

CASH DISllURSEIMEN'TS

s y nA Mac CAD system received a lot of attentionbut I didn't have time to stop.

COLUMNS JAN THRU DEC, YERR\\\\ SALES DATA\\Revenue~ • Price * Units SoldUnit~ Sold = 700, 750, 800, 825, 850, 850, 800Price = Data\\\\ CASH RECEIPTS\\

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s yn MacNifty. another local outfit, was at the showin force, showing off their array of musIc relatedhardware and software. The new Concertware (See Octnewsletter - discussion of Boody's demonstration), wasshown Midi interfaced to a series of Casio Synthesizers.The Casio synthesizers run from the $3OOs upwards. TheConcertware that supports Midi costs $50 more. If youdon't want to spend that much you can buy a simplekeyboard for $150 which works with the regularConcertware.

The program lists at $200, much less than the PC versionwhich recently has had it's price reduced to $450!

Cash Collections =60%* RevenuesReceivables =5000, 10%* Previous RevenuesTotal Receipts • Cash Collections + Receivables\\\\\\Raw Material =Salles

The result isth,at you can more easily document a complexspreadsheet and larger spreadsheets are possible within agiven memory size.

10000

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lIIIIII Tola I Rece Ipls_ Total Dlsbursellents

As a result of Apple's announcement, HyperDrive hasalready reduced their price down to $1695 for the 10MbyteHyperDrive and $2195 for the 20 Mbyte. One can expectothers to follow suit. Unless you want portability, theMac hard drive will be hard to beat on a price performancebasis.

s yn ExecuCom, at their own booth, introduced MindSight, which is the Integrated Financial Planning System(IFPS) for the Mac., Mainframe and PC. users may befamiliar with versions running on such systems. On firstexposure, Mind Sight looks like a spreadsheet.. But insteadof putting formulae in cells, in Mind Sight one writes outthe algebraic definition of the worksheet:

~olumn~ 1 THRU 1Unit~ = 100, 200, 300, 100Price = .25, prevlou~ *Revenue = Price * Unll~

~o~ Sample Model

s 1'TI The new Hierarchical finder is great. When yougo to save a file, you are presented with a menu ,selectionwindow listing Folders. By selecting a Folder, thedocument is saved into that Folder. The new finder alsohandles an (unlimited?) number of files. Desktops remainuncluttered because of the ease of use of Folders.

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What y~~ffai:~c~~~n·t seel

s yn Apple low-keyed the new Winchester format 20Mbyte hard disk drive at their booth beneath a Macpretending to be a Mac-Bottom. The disk was beingdemo'ed with the new hierarchical finder. The disk plugsinto the disk port on the Mac and allows a 2nd hard disk tobe daisy-chained into it and/or an external floppy drive.Thus you Clln have 40 Mbytes connected to your Mac plusthe external drive. The new drive comes in at an attractiveprice ($1495 list.) Because it is expected to be in shortsupply for about 3 months, discounts may be harder to get.The Mac hard drive's biggest surprise is performance.Benchmarks todate indicate that with identical software,HyperDrive is only 15% faster! With as delivered software,today, HyperDrive is only 3% faster. MacBottom is thenext best performer, trailing somewhat behind the Applehard drive.

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6! TnMacFest (Continued)

s y n3 -COM presented an interesting demo of theirnetwork and disk server. They had a Mac and an IBMPC Compatible (a Compaq) hooked up to 3-COM Ethernetnetwork. It really works. It"s not cheap, but if you want afull featured network, link-up with PCs, print server, e~., itmay be the way to go.

s y n If you are interested in project planning,MicroPlanner may be of interest. A entire booth wasdevoted to this British Mac product. This is a much moresophisticated program than MacProject and may well be allyou need unless you are running a multi-million dollarproject with more than 500 tasks. The booth was wall­papered with huge charts that came from the program. Thisis a true business product comparable with manymainframes planners!

S yn Ramsey-Smith, a familiar face at our meetings,was peddling his Mac and Lisa upgrade,s under the bannerWaterborne Environmental Labs, a local company (339­8818.) They sell a 128K to 5l2K upgrade for $175, 128Kto 2Mbyte upgrade for $669, and $5l2K to 2Mbyte Jor$499; They also offer, a hard disk controller on the 2Megboard for an additional $J49. They are also planning torelease a6802001l,tion. 'Ramseytol~ me that the 5l2K to2Mbyte upgrade is made with minimal change to the MacmO,therboard perhaps allowing one to survive the Applewarranty problem?

S yn MacTutor was there with .all It's past is,s.lles.

S y nSome Twin City deaiers were' at hand sellingsoftware and other goodies. I watched somebody trying ,toland a Fokker Triplane (Fokker Triplane Flight Simulator ­PBI Software) after unsuccesfully navigating tlte space­shuttle. I saw MacDraft. There were several boothes. withbusiness program developers including database makers.Practical Computer Applications (427-4789), another .localMac house, was demonstrating MacBackup and MacGolf.

S y nRight before we closed 011 .. the. first ni~ht, afellow placed a strange looking, disk drIve on O\1rcounter. The drive is a Mac compatible, stores 400Kbytesan4is1llade in Hugo, Minnesota! The comp.any is calledMirror Technologies (426-3276) and they offer a 90 dayunconditional guara,ntee. They are looking for dealershipsand might be willing to do a group purchase for the club ata price under $200.

S y II There were only half as many boothes as wereexpected - around 70, but 'there was plenty to see. ' I wasdissaappointed not to see MicroSoft, Lotus, MacCharlie andAldus, but like I said earlier, I didn't have time foreverything, even though I spent 3 hours looking around! Ienjoyed it and I hope they come back next year!

I would like to take this opportunity on behalf of the clubto thank Tom Edwards for the excellent job he did inorganizing our booth at the MacFest.

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Curtis Juliber and Mike Carlsondemo'd MacDOMsat the MacFest

Photography by Tom Edwards

With a SQ,ueaky Door and a Howling in the distance the

Halloween editi?nof MacDOM rises, from the TooHlox.lJsiIlg tlteS()\1ndEff~cts, gener~tor from MacD9M #16 addsome appropnate noises for the 31st ofOct?ber.

And if you don't want to hear the screatns leave Earthon a Orion cll.lSS starship and practice YOur astrogatorskills.. TltisOll~. is fUll if you want to find try findin~theSlln Jookingbackhomeff(lm Procyon. If yO\! just wl\nt tocrllise geton,t().i,StarFli~ht and just lean back.

With>alltheinewd~sk. accessories coming out now!haYFfound jt<~asier just<to devote a data disk to holdingthem>andadqingas necessary to new syste1ll disks. TheDAiSllmpler<alloWs you to do a temporary add of a newDA to the system to test it. Warning: This will work onlywith the new style D.A's.

Three new desk accessories to practice with: Wraptak~s tlte pointer from one side of the screen to another.Teleport is a. Switcher-like DA for 5I2K Macs. And1\1011s11print is interesting.

Ifyou are a developer and want to try to customizeyour program for other countries, Localizer should be ahelp for you.

Rounding off the DOM is a MacPaint Document forCerificates and an example there of.

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a h! I went home and kicked my drives until my toes

were sore!It's not nice to show all us poor floppy drivers how

sweet life can be in the fast lane. These humungo harddrives. are like having the capacity of an Atlas MovingVan, with the speed and agility of a BMW. Did you attendthe September 23 MacSIG too? Then I know another thatgot a bruise on the. toe.

Mike Carlson started the group off at the usual 7:00pm time, as. we settled into the theater setting. at theSouthdale Hennepin County Library. The announcementsbrought lIS up-to-date on the concerns aodhappenings ofthe Mac community. Several new folks. in the groupintroduced .themselves •and mentioned theirjnt~rests anduses for the Mac. A Helix user and evaluator,non7profitorganization user, and software developers. among >theooesthat! recall.

TheQ/A session brought out many of those fine littletidbits that are always interesting and often helpful. •••• Hereis .your fullllleasure •for this report:

Holc.i down the OJYfION key as you launch the. Moverprogram, and it will bring you into the DeskAcccessorx part of the program instedad of the Fonts.A user of Professional. Composer has<a problemwith his mast.er disk asking. for the master disk...sounds like he best go back to the publisher fora newdisk..If you have boot and screen problems with MacDraw,check to. make sure that you have a copy of theImageWriter file in the System.MS:Multiplan/Chart used with Switcher 4.4gives you a 32K clipboard limitation.Speaking of Switcher... version 4.4 is the "latest".Avoid some frustrations and get a copy of it. Version4.3 needs a good shot of Raid.Those with MS products are wondering about thepossibility of upgrading to Excel. No firm answersavailable tonight.If you are working with files that you will print withthe LaserWriter, be sure to get a disk "Laserized" withthe proper fonts. Even though the LaserWriter cansubstitute with no problem, your screen image will notbe very close to what ends up on the paper... itssometimes even a problem with the Laser fontsinstalled on your disk.The long rumored ROM upgrade should give you afaster Mac, ability to use dual sided disks and adifferent method of structuring file directories.For the adventurer in you, try using one of the resourceeditors to "customize" your menu selections withkeyboard alternates. Be sure to work on a COPY ofyour disk.Dr. Dobb's Journal outlines a task for the IDlliadventurous ... a DIY hard drive add-on!

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by Dan BuchlerLast year, we created MultiPlan spreadsheets to

calculate and report our Federal and Minnesota Statt; taxes.Anyone;: interested in participating for 1985 tax year,please contact Dan Buchler. I also plan to have Excel'versions. Volunteers will not be charged but will beexpected to check algorithms for accuracy.

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(S.P.C Apple is a user group like Mini'app'les. We thinkthat there are many Mini'app'lers that could have written asimilar article about our Club. Enjoy it. Use it. The Club isfor your entertainment, education and growth. Ed.)

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INVESTMENTSby Crickett Townsend

S.P.C. Apple

Recently, I brought a friend into a company'as a parmer.He didn't invest too much money, just enough for what hecalled "a reasonable return." At first he was really gun-hoon keeping up with his investment, attending meetings,discussing his views on how he would like to see thecompany operate, and what should or should not be doneconcerning his investment. As time passt::d he became. lazyabout returning correspondence concerning his investment(sometimes. not even taking the time to read it),andcompletely stopped going to meetings. There .was.alwayssomething else going on. He stoPPtd tllkinglldvantage 'ofoffers the company.proyided to.p~tners,~~etl1erthey bein the form of savings or tducation.

My friend came ovecgIle dllyandpegalltocomplainabout not receiving any returns on his investment, he wasbeginning to feel he had wasted his money and time. Hefelt he had no control over what the company was doing, itwas cold and impersonal. •He now felt like an outsider.

I couldn't bring myself to tell him the truth when heasked me what I thought about the whole project.Especially since the .truth was that I too had made the sameinvestment.

When I bought my computer, I joined S.P.C. APPLE,and had great plans for my computer, I just went aboutusing my investment inadiffere;:ntwar. I took fulladvantage of club meetings.· I became involved in clubfunctions. I found the infonnatign I wasseekin~. about mycomputer, lIbouthard"Yare~Ildsoftware, I learned aboutprograllllllingandtgomanYRt~erpOlllPuterrelateditems tomention. I fO\lndrnallY frieIlds~ith a c()Inlll0n interest.

lfeell.ha.ve;:PMtmycomPuterJo much better use withthis infonnation thll.nifIl1ad tried to !ea,m it on my own.Every personwhojoinsS.P.C. APPLE has the ability tomake the most of their membership, by receivinginformation and knowledge about hardware and softwarethat will make working with their computers easier andmore productive.

In any club or orginzation you can onlr receive areturn on your investment in membership if you are willingto take' the time to partlcpate. You invested a lot ofmoney in your computer, now it's up to you to make thetime to learn how to use your investment to it's greatestpotential.

Mike introduced Lisa Lauer, spokesperson for the GeneralComputer Co., who managed to survive almost a weekof Minnesota's September winter preview with only herFlorida skivies packed away in her travel bag. Lisa's taskfor the evening was to tum us all green with envy andmake us drool over the advantages of having your very ownHyperDrlve. The Hyper])rive is a 10 meg (soon to be20!) hard drive th~tIllounts~~ide the Maccase.. Jt attachesto the 68000 direptlY,i~ith.a.spep~alc~ip,A..pple hasgrantedGeneralCornPuter .•~. waivtr~9that~eir systemdoes notpobble up your warranty cove;:r.agr .

TheG eneral Computer Co. wasst~rte;:d by 3 ITstudentsthllt did their teething on game;:s for the Atari. Astheir success grew, they selected Apple .as the cgmputer toconcentratt::their inventiv~~~rd.wafe;: ideas upon. Thecomp.a.~y<isl1o~in its 5th Yt::ar9flwsiness,.~.~d has foundnew fame from hitching th~ir Hrp~r])rive t(>tht:: Mac.

Tile internal direct-connect· methg~br+~~s speed.andret~ins.portability for the Mac, whichllas not yet beenpossible;:i~ith externallyconnecte~drives. Their pa~kage

(driveupgradeboar~ii.toi~12K If needed, fan, auxtllarypower'~upply,cableand9onnection)can be installedpyIgc.ald.e~l.rrs'/"Y~9i~ls()i)Prgvidtt~eservice if (heavenf9fllid.!)youhave;:/a i Pr()lllt::p1'iCUrft::llt price is about $2200fora 10megllnd.$78oofor 20 meg. . .

Ont::ofth~rieat things offered by the HyperDnve ISthe allility to boot direc~lyfrom the hard disk. Softwareprovides a management syste~ from the "Apple". menu.Volumes (32) dynamically resize themselves to SUit yourneeds and you can work with any three at a.. time. Othersoftware goodies ,are: print spooler, passwords,encryption, a "systemmallager", and a .. versatile prograrntobackup on floppies< or an external hard.drive, ii· GeneralComputer has no plans togo with streaming tape backup,

The fan wasniceandquiet,although some owners havehad minor problems created by the tight .clearances. Thepackage adds 5 pounds ito the Mac, so if you musttransport, it is still a reasonable load. Althoug~ theposition of the drive and the shock mounting can resIst thesame impact that the Mac is rated for, most owners treatthe system with lIppropriate care.

General Computer is working on new products forMac and other machines, but Lisa was not letting anysecrets out of the bag. In appreciation for a veryinteresting presentation, some of the Mini'app'le'rs gaveLisa some hints on how to get a bit more software onto theHyperDrive.

As the meeting came to a close, Mike advised thegroup that Apple will have a hard drive available soon.Looking like "MacBottom", sporting 20 megs andconnecting to the floppy port, it is said to be fairly fastfor an external unit and will be priced in the $1495bracket. (Those that dwell on such things, pondered theimpact of the $995, 20 meg "Slder" that is soon to bereadied by First Class Peripherals .)(Editor's note: SeeMacFest elsewhere in this newsletter.)As a last note on what's new, Apple has introduced theImageWrlter II. Buffering, speed, color, AppleTalk,NLQ, and a sheet feeder run the gamut of improved/addedfeatures for the venerable old standby printer.

See you next at the November meeting.

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Dave loosened up his touch on the keyboard with acouple of qUick races at ,two more local board challengers,Iconoclast (780-8393), and College of Education,lJ.of?\1.

Touch on the keys was right, now, and Dave ",.ent. forthe gold! This time he took on Compuserve, . with thesignal juIllping out 24,000. miles to TeleStar and flashingback.to the East Coast. Logged on, password checked,andsoon 'the group was staring at the MAUO, that .. awsomesection of Compuserve where all of the horsepower-hungeryMac and Apple enthusiasts hang out. Talk about down­loads! You could spend days just sorting through the

choic~s.. . ....••.. . .'. .••.••. ..'B.ut this wasn't just a. test drive, Dave was 'here to do

business. He quickly accellerated to the Mac . section,selected his quarry (a program called ViewPaint) and gavethe instruction totrailsfer.· In record,llme ViewPaint.hx\Vas cloned to the disk. Dave spun oll~\vitha Pra9ticed ha~dat the controls and tripped the light td stop the timer.. "

Back in the pits, the disk did a wheelie as Dave put theBinH.ex. c()nveqe( ()n it 1<> transform it from a mess of bitsandbyte!Fofelectronic jumble int<>a finely tunedprogr~mthat. s~tiuporrolledoyeri~this becck iapcl. call.<:Wit~a, f~st

dO\lbl(:/ clic~; l)!l.Ve~a.§,.i:eving pic~ut(:s'or )itt1y .. furryanimals to and from the' screen.. '. ' '

you looking for's'omeone to teach you the artdragging through the BBS maze~? Take a ride with Dave.You'll soon find yourself able to keep up with the best of'em and you won't have to eat anyone's dust!

Lend Me ThineEar

MacSIG:ntu .Blows Ma BellRight Off The Tratk

by T()m Edwards

Ever wonderhQWtodothis BBS'ing that makes .the

headlines every once in a.....hile? The MacSIO:ntu grouprode with. anec~I>er.tth~tit<>ok theIll on ••.• at~rBocharged50,000. milecjo~rt1yY.that.yyep included. an enc()llDter withthe ?\1A.l.JC}for t~eS~pte.1llberIlleeting.

All this \Vas done. by .way ~f telecommllnicati0ps, pliedthrough the nimble fingers of Dave Stovall who stroked thekeys to w~isk the g()up.safely .. through the night.

Davepiltthe~eyinto his Mac and fired up his favoritecommunicati(»);lsprogram, <SmartComl/. This prograIll is sosupercharge1it evep .allows two. Mac'ers .. to . workintera~tivelY/B)'I>honewith a draw-type program on thescreei·s.o they\canch~nge .andmodify the picture. Just thething for the,~hist<)riu."chite9t,and Dave is both.

JJ:ecg()t thfilgswl\fmed JlP\Vith a short spin on some ofthelocalBBS's (Bulletin BoiudSystems). First trying LateNight Mac (646-4360, run by MacSIO'er Dave Helme),Stovall gave the group a taste of what can be found on theboards that are devoted to Mac fans. There is a lot ofsoftware that can be down-loaded, or you can up-load yourown contributions for others to share.

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