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Page 1: 2008 01 30 ELNs and Compliance

ELNs and ComplianceSimon Coles

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ELNs and Compliance

• Compliant with what?

• Typical approaches

• Common problems

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About Amphora

• Started in ELNs in 1996

• Globally deployed, fully electronic ELN for Kodak

• Grew from there...

• Now work with large & small companies

• Biotechs, Pharma, Chemicals

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Who we work with

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Industry

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What we do

• Patent Evidence Creation & Preservation

• Make lawyers happy

• Which means you can make scientists happy

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What we do

• Sometimes our stuff is used...

• Standalone (e.g. CRT presentation)

• In conjunction with other “ELN” products (e.g. Solvay, Array etc.)

• With in house systems (e.g. J&J)

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“ELNs and Compliance”

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Compliant with what?

• The world cares about what your company does and how you do it (Regulation)

• You want to be able to prove what you did so you can get the credit for it (Patents)

• You have some internal requirements for retention & use of scientific data

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What is an ELN?

• Helpful to distinguish

• The different functionality that is provided by ELN systems

• The different data which is created in the Research Lab

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What’s in an ELN?

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“Broad” aspectsSecurity, Collaboration, Patent Protection etc.

Chemistry Biology etc. etc.

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What’s sloshing around?

• Not all the “Stuff” on our hard disks is the same

• Various levels of abstraction

• Need to keep it for different periods

• Different levels of importance

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Different types of stuff

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Programmes

Projects

Experiments

Raw Data

Interpreted Data/Reports

Analysed/Processed Data

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Records Requirements

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Quality criteria

Material to be preserved Scrutiny Timescale Format

Internal use Internal requirements

Scientific dataExperiment write up

Little, if any Company definedXML

De Facto standardsad hoc

RegulatoryPublished

regulations, with comment

Primarily Scientific data

Some write up

Regulatory inspection Defined by regulations

XMLDe Facto standards

PatentsCase law

Federal Rules of evidence etc.

Primarily Experiment write up

Some dataAdversarial

~ 10 years before first come under scrutinyRetain for 50 -100

years

PDFPaper

Microfilm

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Regulatory Compliance

• Regulatory authorities want you to work in a certain way and require proof that you did

• They also want to be assured you’re creating the records that are needed to diagnose/trace/fix issues

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Regulators

• Medical, e.g. FDA and other national counterparts

• Environmental, e.g. EPA

• Employment, Health, etc.

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Regulators

• Generally the people who are performing a regulated activity are intimately away of their regulatory responsibilities

• There will often be an individual or group within the organisation who are responsible for your relationship with the regulator

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ELNs in a Regulated area

• The regulator is generally interested in what you did and how

• It is impossible to split the record keeping layer and the activity

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Regulated areas

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“Broad” aspectsSecurity, Collaboration, Patent Protection etc.

Chemistry Biology etc. etc.

Can’t Separa

te out

Record Keep

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Have to do this

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Chemistry Biology etc. etc.Reco

rd keeping is

part of th

e “Deep

”,

specific fu

nctionalit

y

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Different types of stuff

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Programmes

Projects

Experiments

Raw Data

Care an awful lot about the lower

levels

Interpreted Data/Reports

Analysed/Processed Data

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ELNs in a Regulated Area

• “Generic” ELNs are rare in a regulated area

• Often, the thing that replaces your Paper Notebook may not even be called an “ELN”

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Paper Notebook Replacements

• SDMS

• Compliance Management Systems

• LIMS

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Keeping Lawyers Happy

• In Discovery, at some point you’re going to have a clever idea

• Your lawyers will want to patent it

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Patents and Records

• You get a patent primarily for what happened in someone’s brain

• Hopefully you have some record of that

• Which you then take into court

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Patents and Records

• Unfortunately a patent case is conducted in a court of law

• This makes it somewhat of a blood sport

• Your records have to survive adversarial scrutiny

• Ideally you haven’t got anything hanging around which causes you a problem

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Keeping Lawyers Happy

• Some kind of Patent Evidence Creation & Preservation Process/System

• Will take records from all systems

• Author Signed, and Witnessed

• Long retention periods for the experiment writeups

• Get rid of everything else

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Surviving Court

• Designing Patent Evidence Systems is an interesting game

• Lots little interdependencies

• Technology is only a small part of it

• In fact, the less technology the better!

• All about simplicity and reliability

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Keeping Lawyers Happy

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“Broad” aspectsSecurity, Collaboration, Patent Protection etc.

Chemistry Biology etc. etc.Absolutely

must

do this s

eparatio

n

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Different types of stuff

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Programmes

Projects

Experiments

Raw Data

Get rid of this stuff as soon as prudent

(assuming you don’t need it for any other

reason)

Keep Experiment Writeups for a long

time

Interpreted Data/Reports

Analysed/Processed Data

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Interesting Thoughts

• A lot of people in Discovery aren’t keeping the right stuff in their notebooks

• Sometimes too detailed, sometimes not enough

• Sometimes the people keeping the best notebooks don’t need to keep them

• Sometimes the people who should aren’t!

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Interesting Thoughts

• The lawyers don’t want to torture you

• Really, honestly

• You can create good patent evidence reasonably painlessly

• Decent front-end system

• Good backend

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Interesting Thoughts

• Scientists are happy and productive

• You don’t spend all that much money (good ROI!)

• Lawyers get a reliable process and good evidence

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Questions?

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