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lemonade

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Glenn Parsonsgparsons@nortelnetworks.com

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Scribes and Transcribes

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Agenda• Agenda Bashing (Chairs) 5 min• Review of LEMONADE charter & WG status (Chairs) 10

min• Requirements (Kue) 20 min• 3GPP/3GPP2/OMA Architecture (Randall/Dean)

15 min• Media Size (Ari) 10 min• Status Counters (Alexei) 20 min• SNAP (Ari) 20 min• IMAP Extensions (Pete/Eric/Greg) 30 min• Discussion of relationships/liaisons 10 min• Next Steps 10 min• Addenda Time Permitting

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Charter

• Last Issue: Liaison List– 3GPP TSG T WG2 SWG3 Messaging– W3C Mulitmodal interaction Activity– Open Mobile Alliance– 3GPP2 TSG-P– 3GPP2 TSG-N for Randy– Remember, List not a Limit to Liaisons, Just

Explicitly Stating Who Is Obvious

• Two Discussion Points

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Charter Discussion Point #1

• Should We Expand Charter to Cover Media Content Adaptation?– Real-Time as well as Store-and-Forward– Issue in SIPPING– Issue in OPES

• Peer-to-Peer Content AdaptationHand-off to Server

• Belief is “No”. Any Objection?

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Charter Discussion Point #2

• Notification (SNAP)– Lots of Security Issues Need to Be Addressed– Scope & Name Need to Be Addressed– Is There Sufficient Industry Interest?

• Disposition Options– Individual Submission– IETF Last Call– Accept Into lemonade Charter

This is the Charter Question, Not a Discussion on SNAP Itself

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Charter Status

Ned Freed

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Requirements Draft

Kue Wongdraft-wong-umcli-01

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OMA/3GPP/3GPP2

Randall GellensDean Willis

- Or -

One Reason Why We’re Here

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Media Size and SNAP

Ari Erevdraft-shveidel-mediasize-01

draft-shapira-snap-05

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Status Counters

Alexey Melnikovdraft-neystadt-imap-status-counters-01

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Binary and Channel

Pete Resnickdraft-nerenberg-imap-binary-07

draft-nerenberg-imap-channel-02

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Channel Use Cases

draft-burger-imap-chanuse-01

• Describes– Real-Time Message Retrieval– Distance-Based Retrieval– Transcoding Service– Mail Sending Service

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Channel Use CaseOpen Issues

• Editorial Nits (references)

• Add Non-Implicit Transcoding Use Case

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Future Delivery

Greg Vaudreuildraft-vaudreuil-futuredelivery-00.txt

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Extra-Group Interactions

• Intra-IETF– SIPPING– OPES

• Inter-Body– 3GPP TSG T WG2 SWG3 Messaging– W3C Mulitmodal interaction Activity– Open Mobile Alliance– 3GPP2 TSG-P– 3GPP2 TSG-N

Are There Others?

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Next Steps

• Which Documents Should Be Work Group Items?– draft-wong-umcli-01– draft-nerenberg-imap-binary-07– draft-nerenberg-imap-channel-02– draft-burger-imap-chanuse-01– draft-neystadt-imap-status-counters-01– draft-shveidel-mediasize-01– draft-vaudreuil-futuredelivery-00– draft-shapira-snap-05

Two Documents?

Any Others?

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Addenda

• IMAP Quota

• IMAP Submit

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