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    3 Things You Didn’t (Want To) Know About Nelson MandelaLEE JENKINS JUNE 27, 2013 887

    The hero of the anti-apartheid struggle was not the saint we want him to be.

    The image of Nelson Mandela as a selfless, humble, freedom fighter turned cheerful, kindly old man, is well

    established in the West. If there is any international leader on whom we can universally heap praise it is

    surely he. But get past the halo we’ve placed on him without his permission, and Nelson Mandela had more

    than a few flaws which deserve attention.

    He signed off on the deaths of innocent people, lots of them

    Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South

    African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including

    mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg

    railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s MK

    terrorists. Here are some highlights

    -Church Street West, Pretoria, on the 20 May 1983

    -Amanzimtoti Shopping complex KZN, 23 December 1985

    -Krugersdorp Magistrate’s Court, 17 March 1988

    -Durban Pick ‘n Pay shopping complex, 1 September 1986

    -Pretoria Sterland movie complex 16 April 1988 – limpet mine killed ANC terrorist M O Maponya instead

    -Johannesburg Magistrate’s Court, 20 May 1987

    -Roodepoort Standard Bank 3 June, 1988

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    Tellingly, not only did Mandela refuse to renounce violence, Amnesty refused to take his case stating “[the]

    movement recorded that it could not give the name of ‘Prisoner of Conscience’ to anyone associated with

    violence, even though as in ‘conventional warfare’ a degree of restraint may be exercised.”

    As President he bought a lot of military hardware

    Inheriting a country with criminally deep socio-ecnomic problems, one might expect resources to be poured

    into redressing the imbalances of apartheid. Yet once in office, even Mandela’s government slipped into the

    custom of putting national corporatism, power and prestige above its people. Deputy Minister of Defence

    Ronnie Kasrils said in 1995 that the government’s planned cuts in defence spending could also result in the

    loss of as many as 90,000 jobs in defence-related industries.

    Mandela’s government announced in November 1998 that it intended to purchase 28 BAE/SAAB JAS 39

    Gripen fighter aircraft from Sweden at a cost of R10.875 billion, i.e. R388 million (about US$65 million) per

    plane. Clearly, the all-powerful air armadas of Botswana weighed heavily on the minds of South African

    leaders…

    Not content with jets, in 1999 a US$4.8 billion (R30 billion in 1999 rands) purchase of weaponry was

    finalised, which has been subject to allegations of corruption. The South African Department of Defence’s

    Strategic Defence Acquisition purchased a slew of shiny new weapons, including frigates, submarines,

    corvettes, light utility helicopters, fighter jet trainers and advanced light fighter aircraft.

    Below are some of the purchases made, presumably to keep the expansionist intentions of Madagascar at

    bay…

    Description Original Qty Illustrative total cost

    Corvettes 4 R4 billion

    Maritime helicopter for corvettes 5 R1 billion

    New submarines to replace Daphne 4 R5,5 billion

    Alouette helicopter replacement 60 R2 billion

    Advanced light fighter 48 R6-9 billion

    Main Battle Tank replacement of Olifant 154 R6 billion

    Total cost in 1998 Rand R25-38 billion

    Mandela was friendly with dictators

    Despite being synonymous with freedom and democracy, Mandela was never afraid to glad hand the thugs

    and tyrants of the international arena.

    General Sani Abacha seized power in Nigeria in a military coup in November 1993. From the start of his

    presidency, in May 1994, Nelson Mandela refrained from publicly condemning Abacha’s actions. Up until

    the Commonwealth Heads of Government meeting in November 1995 the ANC government vigorously

    opposed the imposition of sanctions against Nigeria. Shortly before the meeting Mandela’s spokesman,

    Parks Mankahlana, said that “quiet persuasion” would yield better results than coercion. Even after the

    Nigerian government announced the death sentences against Saro-Wiwa and eight other Ogoni activists,

    during the summit, Mandela refused to condemn the Abacha regime or countenance the imposition of

    sanctions.

    Two of the ANC’s biggest donors, in the 1990s, were Colonel Muammar Gaddafi of Libya and President

    Suharto of Indonesia . Not only did Mandela refrain from criticising their lamentable human rights records

    but he interceded diplomatically on their behalf, and awarded them South Africa ‘s highest honour. Suharto

    was awarded a state visit, a 21-gun salute, and The Order of Good Hope (gold class).

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    In April 1999 Mandela acknowledged to an audience in Johannesburg that Suharto had given the ANC a

    total of 60 million dollars. An initial donation of 50 million dollars had been followed up by a further 10

    million. The Telegraph ( London ) reported that Gaddafi was known to have given the ANC well over ten

    million dollars.

    The apartheid regime was a crime against humanity; as illogical as it was cruel. It is tempting, therefore, to

    simplify the subject by declaring that all who opposed it were wholly and unswervingly good. It’s important

    to remember, however, that Mandela has been the first to hold his hands up to his shortcomings and

    mistakes. In books and speeches, he goes to great length to admit his errors. The real tragedy is that too

    many in the West can’t bring themselves to see what the great man himself has said all along; that he’s

    just as flawed as the rest of us, and should not be put on a pedestal.

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    David McNeilage • 6 months ago −Good article. The misconceptions about South Africa and Mandela are vast. The ANC

    is corrupt to the core and every bit as racist as the National Party they replaced. South

    African Airways on behest of the Government recently ran a job advert with the ending

    tag line "whites need not apply" In the north of the country, farmers are having their

    land and homes repossed by the state and in some cases are being murdered for no

    other reason than they are white. South Africa is a Zimbabwe waiting to happen.

    Personally, I'll mourn FW de Klerk when he dies and will remain as ever, glad to be an

    ex-South African.

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    DrPhuckyPhd • 3 days ago David McNeilage −And white managerial and professional types have been leaving South Africa as

    rapidly as they can get out with their families. I know several who have already

    left South Africa, and others who are planning on leaving. The reason? . . .

    South Africa law decrees that white males must be placed at the bottom of the

    Hire Lists for government jobs as well as Hire Lists for non-government jobs.

    Whites can NOT get jobs in their native land of South Africa because of the

    laws passed by Mandela's African National Congress. Not only is South Africa

    a Zimbabwe waiting to happen but, also, the United States is a South Africa

    waiting to happen . . . if you are white.

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    DanielHil l iard • 3 days ago DrPhuckyPhd −AWWWWW!!!! WHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! IT'S NOT FAIR!!!!!!!!! THEY'RE

    TREATING US NOWHERE AS BADLY AS WE TREATED THEM FOR

    DECADES..... AND WE DON'T LIKE IT!!!!! YOU FUCKING CRY

    BABIES.

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    laura • 3 days ago DanielHilliard −Daniel, You do realize African americans are free to apply for

    government positions..such as PRESIDENCY right?. They

    aren't denied anything. Why should whites? OH THATS RIGHT

    because of something that happened a long time ago that

    anyone living today had nothing to do with. You think that justifies

    it? That its fair for whites to be treated poorly because of it? and

    complaining about that makes those people having to leave their

    country cry babies??.....Slavery wasn't MY fault or theirs. Don't

    be an idiot,

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    DAMIR NARKOMANOVIĆ • 3 days ago laura −ANYONE CAN APPLY FOR PRESIDENT IN USA EVEN

    MONKEY IF ROTSCHILD WANTS IT....

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    John • 3 days ago DAMIR NARKOMANOVIĆ −Well Damir, why don't you disclose your nationality so I can tell

    you all the ways living in the US is better?...

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    Dean Carroll • 3 days ago John −That's a dangerous gamble. He could be Swiss.

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    glebealy th • 3 days ago Dean Carroll −Or Kenyan and born in Hawaii, maybe.

    Just sayin'

    ;o))

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    the one • 2 days ago glebealyth −lol :-)

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    VLATO KOPITAR • 2 days ago DAMIR NARKOMANOVIĆ −ROTHCHILDS - IST JUDE/ JUDISCH- THEY CAN DO

    ANYTHING - THEY'RE LIKE THOSE FUCKIN GOD DAMNED

    SCHWARTZES - CAN'T BE CRITICIZED

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    Chuck • 4 hours ago VLATO KOPITAR −Hi Vlato you a..hoie. Oddly enough you're right about the control

    the Rothschilds wield, but although they are ostensibly Jewish,

    do your homework you slug and find out what they really are.

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    Rawb • 4 hours ago Chuck −Zionists.

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    John Charmer • 4 hours ago DAMIR NARKOMANOVIĆ −What's with the caps lock, you horse's ass?

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    yolo • 3 days ago laura −Laura, 20 years is not that long ago.

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    DanielHil l iard • 3 days ago yolo −Laura is clearly retarded and doesn't have a clue what apartheid

    is in South Africa. She simply sees white v. black and jumps to

    American slavery like a typical empty headed Republican who

    has no concept of world history.

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    John K • 3 days ago DanielHilliard −Daniel your inability to act like an adult is troubling. You think you

    are brilliant yet you aren't smart enough to know how to act like

    an adult. What a pathetic excuse for a man.

    Why do you feel the need to reach out and attack people like you

    are doing? You definitely come across as a sad little man that

    lashes out like a spoiled child. Sad

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    dms0001 • 3 days ago John K −Daniel, A legend in his own mind!

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    elmarc ito • 2 days ago John K −I was trying to find the right words... is it a liberal thing to use ad

    hominems against those that disgaree with them while claiming

    the moral higher ground?

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    DanielHil l iard • 2 days ago elmarcito −Oh no!!!! Ad hominems!!! Someone is calling names!!!!

    WHAHAAAAA!!!! "Liberal." "Ad hominem" = the babbling of a

    right wing, Fox News-watching idiot.

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    John • 2 days ago DanielHilliard −Actually, only someone with a functioning brain can recognize

    the logical fallacy that is in an ad hominem argument. The rest

    use the tactic to make themselves feel superior, like middle

    school kids who pick on each other to gain an upper hand.

    Grow up Daniel.

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    Alison Clark • 2 days ago DanielHilliard −Daniel, get help

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    Coll in • a day ago DanielHilliard −An ad hominem is not about calling names; it is about calling

    names in an obvious and intentional effort to distract from the

    argument by supposedly detracting from the character of the

    argument's proponent. Which happens. A lot.

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    DanielHil l iard • a day ago Collin −Yes. I am aware of what it is. I am not a Fox News watching idiot

    who learned the word when they first heard Sean Hannity use it.

    An ad hominem attack is when you try to discredit someones

    arguing by calling them names, as opposed to directly

    confronting their arguments. People who generally say really

    stupid things and make no arguments like to make accusations

    of "ad hominem attacks." I'm not trying to discredit people's

    arguments by calling them names. I'm simply noting how stupid

    these people are and trying to help their awareness of their own

    intelligence levels. There aren't really very many "arguments"

    from all the racists and bigots on here. Just ill-informed, biased

    opinions. Therefore, me calling them idiots isn't an ad hominem

    attack, because there is no argument that I'm trying to discredit.

    I'm simply letting them know that they are ignorant fools.

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    Coll in • a day ago DanielHilliard −Oh, I wasn't actually accusing you of an ad hominem. Your

    comment just painted it to seem as if conservatives took offense

    from the said general use of ad hominem, while the person to

    whom you were replying said no such thing. They were just

    noting a trend apparent to them. And personally I've been dealing

    with ad hominems since I was 12, whereas I hadn't seen

    Hannity until about 6 weeks ago. Just saying that perhaps not all

    of us are the ignorami with which you seem to be accustomed

    to dealing.

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    Ron47 • 17 hours ago DanielHilliard −Face it Danny, you're just rude. It's not your fault, but your

    parents, as they failed to raise you properly. Someone else is

    always at fault for liberals' actions. Now as an adult, you are a

    poor reflection of them and of yourself.

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    −Daniel, your internet screaming is just what might be expected

    of a spoiled 2-year-old brat if he could type. But I'll try to help

    you. This country has GIVEN more to the world than any other

    super power in the history of the planet. In case you hadn't

    noticed, a black man, supported by a majority of white voters,

    has attained the White House. The government that was set up

    by the Founding Fathers has left the path open to greater

    opportunity than any other nation/state in history. Of course your

    demands for absolute perfection are what one might expect

    from some brain-washed twit like yourself. The nation's

    economic plight isn't the result of the people who are out there

    busting their tails to make life better, rather it is due to parasites,

    with the support of elitists of whom you, no doubt approve, that

    have infested the Administration and Congress. You should read

    up on the term "useful idiot". But I know you don't care. You are

    so full of venom and bile that only total destruction will satisfy

    your obsession. Of course that destruction that you crave will

    also be your own ending.

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    DanielHil l iard • 4 hours ago Chuck −lol. you done?

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    Matthew Engel • a day ago DanielHilliard −Daniel Hilliard cock sucker from way back

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    evervigi lant • 5 hours ago elmarcito −No,it is not. Finally doing what gopers have done for too long.

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    steve allen • 2 days ago John K −You are right John K. Daniel Hilliard seems to be a d@*k. He is

    the smartest person he has ever met!

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    Ryan • 2 days ago steve allen −That's awfully sad isn't it?

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    DanielHil l iard • 3 days ago John K −I'm sorry. Do your little South African White Nationalist web

    rallies usually take on a more formal tone?? Please accept my

    most sincere apologies and forgive me... in the manner that

    Madiba forgave your lot. This is my first time stumbling across

    one of these great white rallies for justice. You'll have to forgive

    my ignorance. you whining cunt.

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    J Simson • 3 days ago DanielHilliard −What we have now is the reverse of Apartheid. Under the guise

    of affirmative action white males are discriminated and have no

    future in South Africa.

    That is fine by me. I am a highly qualified Electrical Engineer and

    work in high Tech. So I took my skills where they will be used.

    South Africa's lose.

    Discrimination is wrong whether it is against black and white

    people.

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    Alison Clark • 2 days ago J Simson −Just to clarify "APARTHEID", translated from Afrikaans means

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    −Just to clarify "APARTHEID", translated from Afrikaans means

    "SEPARATE-NESS" ....so the reverse would actually be

    TOGETHERNESS... ;-)

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    Broadus-Muskausk i Deborah • 2 days ago Alison Clark −They probably looked at the U.S.'s progress and decided

    "TOGETHERNESS" is a pipe dream, so they made sure none

    of YOU ever got into a position of power? Look at how well it's

    working for us here. Even with Affirmative action to force people

    to give us a chance, we still are eons behind and it's NOT

    because we don't try or are lazy.

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    Mr.Grammarer • 3 days ago J Simson −Fixed a few things in here for ya, no charge.

    "What we have now is the reverse of Apartheid. Under the guise

    of affirmative action white males are discriminated [against] and

    have no future in South Africa.

    That is fine by me. I am a highly qualified Electrical Engineer and

    work in high Tech [a high tech industry? please resubmit with

    changed sentence structure]. So I took my skills where they will

    be used. South

    Africa's lose [loss].

    Discrimination is wrong whether it is against black [or] white

    people."

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    Noca • 2 days ago Mr.Grammarer −If you are going to claim to be "Mr. Grammarer" and fix other

    people's sentences then at least use correct grammar and not

    slang or else you have no credibility.

    [I] fixed a few things in here for [you].

    And..."high tech" is a term for ...wait for it...the high tech industry.

    If you can use the word "ya" why can't he use "high tech" which

    is the term used by people in the industry and pretty well

    understood if you are educated.

    In some places you kept the original word (ex. lose) with your

    recommendation next to it and other times you replaced the

    word with your word. At least be consistent.

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    Frim Lee • 10 hours ago J Simson −It is not in any way reverse apartheid. Affirmative action seeks to

    even the playing field when it comes to socio-economic status.

    When apartheid was abolished the socio-economic situation of

    those affected by the regime were not.

    CEOs and directors of the major companies in South Africa as

    well as players in our sports teams were predominantly white.

    With more than 70% of our population being black, surely you

    must realize that that isn't a fair representation of our country.

    Wealth and land are inherited. Unless something was done to

    drastically alter this, the socio-economic status of non-whites in

    South Africa would have taken decades to change, if at all, as

    whites would have continued to inherit wealth earned by their

    ancestors during apartheid and most non-whites would have

    continued to inherit next to nothing. This is the reasoning behind

    affirmative action and it makes logical sense.

    In my opinion those who fight against it are often ignorant of just

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    In my opinion those who fight against it are often ignorant of just

    how cruel and harsh the laws for non-whites were at the time. I

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    CoweringCoward • 2 days ago J Simson −I have my own small process control and automation service

    company. I am not feeling very loved in my own country, though

    work isn't an issue, as they need the taxes to fund our founding

    population's replacement.

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    Walt • 5 hours ago J Simson −loss* skills huh?

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    glebealy th • 3 days ago DanielHilliard −Daniel, you could never be described as a cunt. You are neither

    warm nor welcoming enough.

    Nor, you give the impression, useful enough.

    You exude hatred, childishness and ignorance, though you de

    seem to have learned the various mantras of liberalism very

    well.

    As a left-wing liberal, do you feel that you should be made to pay

    for the atrocities committed by your fellow-travellers in the Soviet

    purges.

    If you do not, then you are a hypocrite who needs to STFU!

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    Jetblakc • 3 days ago glebealyth −You think that the people that executed the Soviet purges were

    "left wing liberals"? Either you don't know what the word liberal

    means, or you don't know what the word purge means.

    Because once you start purging people you've given up the right

    to call yourself liberal.

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    glebealy th • 3 days ago Jetblakc −I am aware of what the "word" liberal means.

    I am also aware that liberals have never been liberal within the

    meaning of the word liberal.

    Liberal politics are merely a dumbed-down version of Marxism, a

    philosophy which powered the activities I spoke of.

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    evervigi lant • 5 hours ago glebealyth −Geeezzz... so you do not know the meaning of liberalism after

    all. So you STFU.

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    upyours • 3 hours ago evervigilant −no u STFU

    Zoeker2012 • a day ago Jetblakc −Well, see, that's where the magical thinking of Lefties kick in.

    You support socialist and Communist ideals, and pretend to

    have no accountability for the inevitable outcome.

    Yes, the Soviets were "liberals" in the sense that we discuss

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    Yes, the Soviets were "liberals" in the sense that we discuss

    financial policies in the US. They favored big government, no

    free enterprise, 100% taxation. Basically the program Lefties like

    you can only dream of. Problem is, these policies can only be

    put in place through a few well-planned purges.

    I hate to shatter your cute little world view, but the Soviets didn't

    magically stop being liberals just because they got caught in

    mass murder.

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    evervigi lant • 5 hours ago Zoeker2012 −You RightWingers remain mired in your own stupidity. Just keep

    telling the erroneous clap over and over and some ufgnread will

    thik it has to be true. You are a disgrace to democracy which

    works best with an educated populous... not baaing FX news

    sheep.

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    DanielHil l iard • 3 days ago glebealyth −Oh no!!!! Is that what theyve made you do???? "Pay for the

    atrocities"? You poor poor soul. What exactly have they done to

    you to make you pay for the atrocities of apartheid? Whats that?

    Nothing? Youre just uber thin skinned? Okay. Thought so.

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    glebealy th • 3 days ago DanielHilliard −No, merely attempted to make me feel guilty so that I would be

    happy to pay.

    Daniel, when you have recharged your neurone, return and talk.

    It is an a priori consideration of Western Aid to Africa that guilt

    for the slave trade should be maximized to maximize aid.

    Recognizing this does not make me thin skinned. your failure to

    recognize (admit) the tactic makes you thick headed.

    As if more evidence of your mental state were needed.

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    James Lovelace • 2 days ago glebealyth −"It is an a priori consideration of Western Aid to Africa that guilt

    for the slave trade should be maximized to maximize aid. "

    The islamic slave trade dwarves the Atlantic slave trade. While

    the Atlantic slave trade ended 150 years ago, it is still kept alive

    to make white (post)christians feel guilty.

    Black african historians who want to talk openly about the

    islamic slave trade are told "do not do this, muslims feel no guilt

    about it because slavery is legal in islam and they despise non-

    muslims; if the christians find out about the islamic slave trade,

    they may stop paying retributions because they realise the

    muslims won't pay anything".

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Islams...

    The above book is written by a South African anti-apartheid

    campaigner. Whilst white-based apartheid has ended, we hear

    nothing about the 1300 years of islamic apartheid.

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