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Page 1The Rear A/C will not operate
The compressor will not
come on.
Start on page 2
The evaporator fan
will not come on.
Start on page 13
The condenser fan
will not come on.
Start on page 12
Action YesTest
No GoExplanation
Legend
Symptom
Have the enginerunning.
Turn on the A/C fanswitch to low, and
turn the A/C thermoswitch all the way to
cold.
Remove the rear padfrom the rear wall.
Find the rear A/Cboard, in the back ofthe bus, on the rear
wall.
Test 1. Find the fivepin connector on the
rear A/C boardmarked K1.
Check for IgnitionVoltage on pin 3
where the red/whitewire is connected.
I have ignitionVoltage on Connector
K1 Pin 3.
I Do Not haveignition Voltage onConnector K1 Pin 3.
Go to page 5.
Go to page 3.
Page 2
Start over.
Page 3I Do Not haveignition Voltage onConnector K1 Pin 3.
Test 2. Do you haveignition voltage tothe A/C fan switch?
Yes
NoTest 4. Check outthe A/C fan switch.
Is the A/C fan switchgood?
No
Replace the A/C fanSwitch.
Test 5. Check forcontinuity on the
red/white wire fromthe A/C fan switch tothe K1 connector and
find the open. Start over.
Test 3. Do you havethe EP2 or the EP3electrial center?
I have the EP3
I have the EP2
Go to page 5.
Go to page 4.
Yes
Yes
Repair the open wire.
Start over.
Page 4I have the EP2
Test 6. Do you haveignition voltage atthe EP2 ElectricalCenter above the
driver door onConnector J1 pin 3?
No
Check for continuityon the white/blue
wire from the A/C fanswitch to the J1
connector at pin 3and find the open.
Test 7. Do you haveignition voltage atthe EP2 Electrical
Center at J4 pin 4 onthe 20P wire?
Run tests on the EP2electrical center for
an open, bad fuse orrelay in the board.
No
Check for continuityon the 20P wire fromthe OE tie-in locationfor ignition voltage.
Yes
Yes
Start over.
Page 5I have the EP3
Test 8. Do you haveignition voltage atthe EP3 ElectricalCenter above the
driver door onConnector J4 pin 2?
Check for continuityon the purple/black
wire from the A/C fanswitch to the J4
connector at pin 2and find the open.
Test 9. Do you haveignition voltage atthe EP3 Electrical
Center at J11 pin 5on the 20P wire?
Run tests on the EP3electrical center for
an open, bad fuse orrelay in the board.
Check for continuityon the 20P wire fromthe OE tie-in locationfor ignition voltage.
Yes
Yes
No
No
Start over.
Page 6I have ignitionVoltage on Connector
K1 Pin 3.
Test 10. Do youhave ignition voltage
at the K1 pin 5?
The Rear A/C boardhas an open from the
K1 pin 3 to the K1pin 5.
Replace the rear A/Cboard.
Test 11. Do youhave ignition voltage
at the K1 pin 4?
Test 12. Pull the A/Cthermo switch out ofthe dash and checkthe switch. Do you
have ignition voltageto the switch?
Go to page 7.
Go to page 6.
Check for an open inthe black/white wirefrom the K1 pin 5 to
the A/C thermoswitch.
Yes Yes
Yes
No No
No
Start over.
Page 7I have ignitionVoltage at the A/C
Thermo Switch
Test 13. Check theA/C Thermo Switch
for continuity, is theswitch good?
Replace the A/CThermo Switch.
Test 14. Check thewhite/blue wire from
the A/C ThermoSwitch to the K1 pin
4 for an open.
Repair the Open.
Yes
No
Start over.
Page 8I have ignitionvoltage at the K1 pin
4.
Test 15. Check forvoltage at the CL1relay at pin 85, do
you have voltage onpin 85?
Replace the rear A/Cboard.
Test 16. Check forground at the CL1relay at pin 86, doyou have ground?
Repair the Open inthe ground cable
from the frame railto the rear A/C
board.
Yes
No
Go to Page 9.
Test 17. Check K3pin 2 for a ground,
do you have aground?
No
Test 18. Check for aground on the big
ground stud marked(-), do you have a
ground?
No
Yes
Go to Page 11.
No
Yes
Yes Replace the rear A/Cboard.
Start over.
Page 9I have ground at theCL1 relay at pin 86.
Test 19 Check thefuse at F04. Is the
fuse good?
Replace the rear A/Cboard.
Test 23. Checkswitches in thecondenser for
continuity through allthe switches. Do you
have continuity?
No
Yes
No
Test 20. Check theCL1 relay at pin 30for voltage. Do youhave voltage on pin
30?
No
Replace CL1 relay.
Test 21. Check K2pin 2 for voltage. Doyou have voltage on
K2 pin 2?
No
Replace F04.
YesYes
Test 22. Check the03 blue wire at the
condenser forvoltage. Do you have
voltage?
Yes
No
Check the 03 bluewire from the K2 pin2 to the condenser
for an open andrepair.
Replace thefailed switch.
Yes Go to Page 9.
Start over.
Test 24. Check the03 blue wire from the
condenser to thecompressor. Do youhave voltage to the
compressor?
Yes
No
Check the 03 blue wire from thecondenser to the compressor, for an
open. Repair the open.
Page 10
Check and repair orreplace the compressor.
Yes I havecontinuity?
Start over.
Yes I have a groundat K3 pin 2
Test 25. Check for aground on K3 pin 3.
Do you have aground?
No
Page 11
Yes
Test 27. Check forcontinuity from K3pin 2 to Evaporatorswitch/switches. Do
you have continuity ?
No
Yes
Go to Page 8
Test 16.
Test 28. Check forcontinuity from theswitch/switches to
the K3 pin 3. Do youhave continuity ?
Replace the switch.Yes
Find the open andrepair.
Start over.
Test 32. Check the03 White wire for anopen from the C1R
stud to thecondenser.
Page 12I Do Not havecondenser fan
operation.
Test 29. Do youhave ignition voltage
at K1 pin 4?
NoTest 30. Check forvoltage at the C1Rstud. Do you have
voltage?
No
Test 31. Check the03 White wire for
continuity from theC1R stud to the
condenser. Do youhave continuity?
Yes
Start with Page 1and run tests up toTest 14 until you
have ignitionvoltage at the K1 pin
4.Replace the A/C
board.
Repair the open inthe 03 White wire.
No
Yes
Replace thecondenser fan motor.
Yes
Start over.
Page 13I Do Not haveevaporaror fan
operation.
Test 33. Do youhave ignition voltageat K1 pins 1, 2, or 3?
Yes
No
Test 34. Whichelectrical panel doyou have above
mounted above thedrivers head, the EP2
or the EP3?
I have the EP3
I have the EP2
Go to page 4.
Go to page 3.
If you have the fan switch on low, you shouldhave voltage on K1 pin 3.
If you have the fan switch on medium, youshould have voltage on K1 pin 2.
If you have the fan switch on high you shouldhave voltage on K1 pin 1.
Do you have voltage in each pin at the correcttime?
Yes
No
Go to page 13.
Go to page 14.
Start over.
Page 14I Do Not havevoltage in each pinat the correct time?
Test 35.
Check continuity on the red/white wire from theA/C fan switch to K1 pin 3. Do you have
continuity?
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Check continuity on the yellow/white wire fromthe A/C fan switch to K1 pin 2. Do you have
continuity?
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Check continuity on the orange/white wire fromthe A/C fan switch to K1 pin 1. Do you have
continuity?Test 36. Which
electrical panel doyou have above
mounted above thedrivers head, the EP2
or the EP3?
I have the EP2 I have the EP3
Go to Page 3 Go to Page 4
Test 34. Do youhave ignition voltage
to the A/C fanYes
No
YesNo
Go to Page 12 andrun test 33
Replace or repair theopen.
Start over.
Page 15I have voltage ineach pin at thecorrect time?
Test 37.
When you have voltage on K1 pin 1, you shouldhave voltage at the HSR stud if fuse 01 and the
TCO fuse are good.
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When you have voltage on K1 pin 2, you shouldhave voltage at the pin 85 of the medium speed
relay if fuse 02 and the TCO fuse are good.
—------------------------------------------
When you have voltage on K1 pin 3, you shouldhave voltage at the pin 85 of the low speed relay
if fuse 03 and the TCO fuse are good.
—------------------------------------------
Are the conditions met?
No
Test 39.
Check for a groundon pin 86 on themedium and low
speed relays. Do youhave a ground on
both?Replace the rear A/C
board.
Replace the failedrelay.Yes
Test 38.
When you have voltage on at the HSR stud youshould have voltage on the orange wire going to
the evaporator motor.
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When you have voltage at pin 85 of the mediumspeed relay you should have voltage at the MSRstud and voltage on the yellow wire going to the
evaporator motor.
—------------------------------------------
When you have voltage at pin 85 of the lowspeed relay you should have voltage at the K3pin 1 and voltage on the red wire going to the
evaporator motor.
No
Yes
Start over.
Start over.
The EP2will usethe J1Pin3
The EP3will usethe J4Pin2
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REAR AC CONTROL PANELFRONT AC CONTROL PANEL
SEE CHART PAGE 1
TO DETERMINE IF YOU
USE THIS COMPONENT
SEE CHART PAGE 1
TO DETERMINE IF YOU
USE THIS COMPONENT
SEE CHART PAGE 1
TO DETERMINE IF YOU
USE THIS COMPONENT
SEE DETAIL A & B
SHEET 1
PRIMARY
ELECTRICAL
POWER
CENTER
NOTES:
1. TERMINAL POSITIONS ON PRINTED CIRCUIT CARD ARE USING
SILK SCREEN MARKINGS AND NOT ACTUAL TERMINAL POSITIONS.
2. THERMAL CUTOFFS ARE LOCATED NEXT TO THE RELAY FOR BEST
PERFORMANCE. TCO'S ARE RATED AT <1 AMPS @ 171°F.
3. DIODES ARE RATED AT A MINIMUM OF 3 AMPS.
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1) TERMINALS C2R, C1R, MSR AND HSR
MUST BE TORQUED TO 2-4 FT. LBS.
POWER AND GROUND POSTS MUST
BE TORQUED TO 9-11 FT. LBS.
2) ADD BLUE LOCTITE E53554 ON ALL
BOLTS / SCREWS ON 0031539-0031539-5
AND THE AC BREAKER.
FOR DUAL CORE EVAP
THIS IS ONE SIDE ONLY.