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Page 1 The Rear A/C will not operate The compressor will not come on. Start on page 2 The evaporator fan will not come on. Start on page 13 The condenser fan will not come on. Start on page 12 Action Yes Test No Go Explanation Legend Symptom

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Page 1: A C Flow Chart - ElDorado€¦ · the EP2 Electrical Center above the driver door on Connector J1 pin 3? No. Check for continuity on the white/blue wire from the A/C fan switch to

Page 1The Rear A/C will not operate

The compressor will not

come on.

Start on page 2

The evaporator fan

will not come on.

Start on page 13

The condenser fan

will not come on.

Start on page 12

Action YesTest

No GoExplanation

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Symptom

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Page 2: A C Flow Chart - ElDorado€¦ · the EP2 Electrical Center above the driver door on Connector J1 pin 3? No. Check for continuity on the white/blue wire from the A/C fan switch to

Have the enginerunning.

Turn on the A/C fanswitch to low, and

turn the A/C thermoswitch all the way to

cold.

Remove the rear padfrom the rear wall.

Find the rear A/Cboard, in the back ofthe bus, on the rear

wall.

Test 1. Find the fivepin connector on the

rear A/C boardmarked K1.

Check for IgnitionVoltage on pin 3

where the red/whitewire is connected.

I have ignitionVoltage on Connector

K1 Pin 3.

I Do Not haveignition Voltage onConnector K1 Pin 3.

Go to page 5.

Go to page 3.

Page 2

Start over.

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Page 3: A C Flow Chart - ElDorado€¦ · the EP2 Electrical Center above the driver door on Connector J1 pin 3? No. Check for continuity on the white/blue wire from the A/C fan switch to

Page 3I Do Not haveignition Voltage onConnector K1 Pin 3.

Test 2. Do you haveignition voltage tothe A/C fan switch?

Yes

NoTest 4. Check outthe A/C fan switch.

Is the A/C fan switchgood?

No

Replace the A/C fanSwitch.

Test 5. Check forcontinuity on the

red/white wire fromthe A/C fan switch tothe K1 connector and

find the open. Start over.

Test 3. Do you havethe EP2 or the EP3electrial center?

I have the EP3

I have the EP2

Go to page 5.

Go to page 4.

Yes

Yes

Repair the open wire.

Start over.

Page 4: A C Flow Chart - ElDorado€¦ · the EP2 Electrical Center above the driver door on Connector J1 pin 3? No. Check for continuity on the white/blue wire from the A/C fan switch to

Page 4I have the EP2

Test 6. Do you haveignition voltage atthe EP2 ElectricalCenter above the

driver door onConnector J1 pin 3?

No

Check for continuityon the white/blue

wire from the A/C fanswitch to the J1

connector at pin 3and find the open.

Test 7. Do you haveignition voltage atthe EP2 Electrical

Center at J4 pin 4 onthe 20P wire?

Run tests on the EP2electrical center for

an open, bad fuse orrelay in the board.

No

Check for continuityon the 20P wire fromthe OE tie-in locationfor ignition voltage.

Yes

Yes

Start over.

Page 5: A C Flow Chart - ElDorado€¦ · the EP2 Electrical Center above the driver door on Connector J1 pin 3? No. Check for continuity on the white/blue wire from the A/C fan switch to

Page 5I have the EP3

Test 8. Do you haveignition voltage atthe EP3 ElectricalCenter above the

driver door onConnector J4 pin 2?

Check for continuityon the purple/black

wire from the A/C fanswitch to the J4

connector at pin 2and find the open.

Test 9. Do you haveignition voltage atthe EP3 Electrical

Center at J11 pin 5on the 20P wire?

Run tests on the EP3electrical center for

an open, bad fuse orrelay in the board.

Check for continuityon the 20P wire fromthe OE tie-in locationfor ignition voltage.

Yes

Yes

No

No

Start over.

Page 6: A C Flow Chart - ElDorado€¦ · the EP2 Electrical Center above the driver door on Connector J1 pin 3? No. Check for continuity on the white/blue wire from the A/C fan switch to

Page 6I have ignitionVoltage on Connector

K1 Pin 3.

Test 10. Do youhave ignition voltage

at the K1 pin 5?

The Rear A/C boardhas an open from the

K1 pin 3 to the K1pin 5.

Replace the rear A/Cboard.

Test 11. Do youhave ignition voltage

at the K1 pin 4?

Test 12. Pull the A/Cthermo switch out ofthe dash and checkthe switch. Do you

have ignition voltageto the switch?

Go to page  7.

Go to page 6.

Check for an open inthe black/white wirefrom the K1 pin 5 to

the A/C thermoswitch.

Yes Yes

Yes

No No

No

Start over.

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Page 7: A C Flow Chart - ElDorado€¦ · the EP2 Electrical Center above the driver door on Connector J1 pin 3? No. Check for continuity on the white/blue wire from the A/C fan switch to

Page 7I have ignitionVoltage at the A/C

Thermo Switch

Test 13. Check theA/C Thermo Switch

for continuity, is theswitch good?

Replace the A/CThermo Switch.

Test 14. Check thewhite/blue wire from

the A/C ThermoSwitch to the K1 pin

4 for an open.

Repair the Open.

Yes

No

Start over.

Page 8: A C Flow Chart - ElDorado€¦ · the EP2 Electrical Center above the driver door on Connector J1 pin 3? No. Check for continuity on the white/blue wire from the A/C fan switch to

Page 8I have ignitionvoltage at the K1 pin

4.

Test 15. Check forvoltage at the CL1relay at pin 85, do

you have voltage onpin 85?

Replace the rear A/Cboard.

Test 16. Check forground at the CL1relay at pin 86, doyou have ground?

Repair the Open inthe ground cable

from the frame railto the rear A/C

board.

Yes

No

Go to Page 9.

Test 17. Check K3pin 2 for a ground,

do you have aground?

No

Test 18. Check for aground on the big

ground stud marked(-), do you have a

ground?

No

Yes

Go to Page 11.

No

Yes

Yes Replace the rear A/Cboard.

Start over.

Page 9: A C Flow Chart - ElDorado€¦ · the EP2 Electrical Center above the driver door on Connector J1 pin 3? No. Check for continuity on the white/blue wire from the A/C fan switch to

Page 9I have ground at theCL1 relay at pin 86.

Test 19 Check thefuse at F04. Is the

fuse good?

Replace the rear A/Cboard.

Test 23. Checkswitches in thecondenser for

continuity through allthe switches. Do you

have continuity?

No

Yes

No

Test 20. Check theCL1 relay at pin 30for voltage. Do youhave voltage on pin

30?

No

Replace CL1 relay.

Test 21. Check K2pin 2 for voltage. Doyou have voltage on

K2 pin 2?

No

Replace F04.

YesYes

Test 22. Check the03 blue wire at the

condenser forvoltage. Do you have

voltage?

Yes

No

Check the 03 bluewire from the K2 pin2 to the condenser

for an open andrepair.

Replace thefailed switch.

Yes Go to Page 9.

Start over.

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Page 10: A C Flow Chart - ElDorado€¦ · the EP2 Electrical Center above the driver door on Connector J1 pin 3? No. Check for continuity on the white/blue wire from the A/C fan switch to

Test 24. Check the03 blue wire from the

condenser to thecompressor. Do youhave voltage to the

compressor?

Yes

No

Check the 03 blue wire from thecondenser to the compressor, for an

open. Repair the open.

Page 10

Check and repair orreplace the compressor.

Yes I havecontinuity?

Start over.

Page 11: A C Flow Chart - ElDorado€¦ · the EP2 Electrical Center above the driver door on Connector J1 pin 3? No. Check for continuity on the white/blue wire from the A/C fan switch to

Yes I have a groundat K3 pin 2

Test 25. Check for aground on K3 pin 3.

Do you have aground?

No

Page 11

Yes

Test 27. Check forcontinuity from K3pin 2 to Evaporatorswitch/switches. Do

you have continuity ?

No

Yes

Go to Page 8

Test 16.

Test 28. Check forcontinuity from theswitch/switches to

the K3 pin 3. Do youhave continuity ?

Replace the switch.Yes

Find the open andrepair.

Start over.

Page 12: A C Flow Chart - ElDorado€¦ · the EP2 Electrical Center above the driver door on Connector J1 pin 3? No. Check for continuity on the white/blue wire from the A/C fan switch to

Test 32. Check the03 White wire for anopen from the C1R

stud to thecondenser.

Page 12I Do Not havecondenser fan

operation.

Test 29. Do youhave ignition voltage

at K1 pin 4?

NoTest 30. Check forvoltage at the C1Rstud. Do you have

voltage?

No

Test 31. Check the03 White wire for

continuity from theC1R stud to the

condenser. Do youhave continuity?

Yes

Start with Page 1and run tests up toTest 14 until you

have ignitionvoltage at the K1 pin

4.Replace the A/C

board.

Repair the open inthe 03 White wire.

No

Yes

Replace thecondenser fan motor.

Yes

Start over.

Page 13: A C Flow Chart - ElDorado€¦ · the EP2 Electrical Center above the driver door on Connector J1 pin 3? No. Check for continuity on the white/blue wire from the A/C fan switch to

Page 13I Do Not haveevaporaror fan

operation.

Test 33.  Do youhave ignition voltageat K1 pins 1, 2, or 3?

Yes

No

Test 34. Whichelectrical panel doyou have above

mounted above thedrivers head, the EP2

or the EP3?

I have the EP3

I have the EP2

Go to page 4.

Go to page 3.

If you have the fan switch on low, you shouldhave voltage on K1 pin 3.

If you have the fan switch on medium, youshould have voltage on K1 pin 2.

If you have the fan switch on high you shouldhave voltage on K1 pin 1.

Do you have voltage in each pin at the correcttime?

Yes

No

Go to page 13.

Go to page 14.

Start over.

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Page 14: A C Flow Chart - ElDorado€¦ · the EP2 Electrical Center above the driver door on Connector J1 pin 3? No. Check for continuity on the white/blue wire from the A/C fan switch to

Page 14I Do Not havevoltage in each pinat the correct time?

Test 35.

Check continuity on the red/white wire from theA/C fan switch to K1 pin 3. Do you have

continuity?

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Check continuity on the yellow/white wire fromthe A/C fan switch to K1 pin 2. Do you have

continuity?

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Check continuity on the orange/white wire fromthe A/C fan switch to K1 pin 1. Do you have

continuity?Test 36. Which

electrical panel doyou have above

mounted above thedrivers head, the EP2

or the EP3?

I have the EP2 I have the EP3

Go to Page 3 Go to Page 4

Test 34. Do youhave ignition voltage

to the A/C fanYes

No

YesNo

Go to Page 12 andrun test 33

Replace or repair theopen.

Start over.

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Page 15: A C Flow Chart - ElDorado€¦ · the EP2 Electrical Center above the driver door on Connector J1 pin 3? No. Check for continuity on the white/blue wire from the A/C fan switch to

Page 15I have voltage ineach pin at thecorrect time?

Test 37.

When you have voltage on K1 pin 1, you shouldhave voltage at the HSR stud if fuse 01 and the

TCO fuse are good.

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When you have voltage on K1 pin 2, you shouldhave voltage at the pin 85 of the medium speed

relay if fuse 02 and the TCO fuse are good.

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When you have voltage on K1 pin 3, you shouldhave voltage at the pin 85 of the low speed relay

if fuse 03 and the TCO fuse are good.

—------------------------------------------

Are the conditions met?

No

Test 39.

Check for a groundon pin 86 on themedium and low

speed relays. Do youhave a ground on

both?Replace the rear A/C

board.

Replace the failedrelay.Yes

Test 38.

When you have voltage on at the HSR stud youshould have voltage on the orange wire going to

the evaporator motor.

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When you have voltage at pin 85 of the mediumspeed relay you should have voltage at the MSRstud and  voltage on the yellow wire going to the

evaporator motor.

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When you have voltage at pin 85 of the lowspeed relay you should have voltage at the K3pin 1 and  voltage on the red wire going to the

evaporator motor.

No

Yes

Start over.

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Start over.

The EP2will usethe J1Pin3

The EP3will usethe J4Pin2

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