The Great Pyramid

In Pursuit of The Ultimate Frontier

A discussion with

Richard Kieninger

Copyright 2008

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Table of Contents

Introduction 1The First Hyksos Invasion 2The Pyramid as a Future Time Capsule 4Construction Technology of the Pyramid 5Building the Great Pyramid 10Prehistory of the Great Pyramid 11The Pyramid Inch 13Man’s Monument to Man 14Closing 16

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The Great Pyramid

A discussion with

Richard Kieninger

In Pursuit of The Ultimate Frontier

IntroductionCHARLEY JONES: My name is Charley Jones. I am yourmoderator for this weekly series of discussions. Our guest in thestudio is Richard Kieninger, author of the book, The UltimateFrontier, writen by him under his pen name, Eklal Kueshana,and it is from this book that we will take the basis for ourdiscussion on this program. Richar, good and welcome to theshow.

RICHARD KIENINGER: Good to be back.

CJ: Our discussion today centers around the structure that hasbeen the object of much study and speculation around the world

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and across time, The Great Pyramid of Gizeh. Now, at high schoolI was taught that the pyramid was built as the final resting placeof powerful Pharaoh, and I can remember having some questionseven then about some of the deductions that have been madeconcerning that theory. Years later I was fascinated that so manyvery different theories concerning this building had beenassembled from the same set of facts. So, making the note herethat the same set of facts can be assembled in more than onelogical way depending on your belief structure, when you do theassessing. Richard, why don’t you focus today’s discussion byoutlining the origin of the Great Pyramid and the how and thewhy that would follow along directly.

The First Hyksos InvasionRK: The Pyramid was constructed by people known as theHyksos. They were the ones who motivated it, although I don’tknow that they provided a great deal of the actual muscle power.Obviously, it took many hundreds of thousands of people in thefield and actually involved in quarrying these stones and puttingthem together. But nevertheless, they were the ones who initiatedthe actual work. They were foreigners to Egyptian soil, but overa period of about a century of gradually infiltrating into thecountry, they managed to gain positions as governmentadministrators and eventually were able to elevate one of theirown to the highest ruler of Egypt. Actually, the Hyksos had beenassigned the task of building the Great Pyramid, and with typicalpatience the Hermetic Brotherhood guided them to a smooth andpeaceful integration with the native Egyptians.

The Hyksos were a Semitic white race that originated in the landjust east of present day Turkey. They were kind of scrappy nomads

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who gradually moved down the Arabian Peninsula all the waydown to the very southern end of the Red Sea and eventuallycrossed the Red Sea and into Ethiopia. From there they graduallyinfiltrated into Egypt. And, then when they completed their taskof building a Great Pyramid, they just drifted off withoutdisrupting the nation. A large part of them migrated to the BritishIsles, and it was these people who built the Stonehenge Circle,which incorporates the same astronomical relationships asmeasured by the Pyramid inch, which incidentally is the same asthe old British inch. It seems like this spilt migration accountsfor the fact that the British and Hebrews inherited the Pyramidinch. Very possibly those two people were intended to translatethe Pyramid’s message when the time came.

CJ: A moment ago you mentioned the Hyksos were assignedthe task of constructing the Great Pyramid by the HermeticBrotherhood. Why the Hyksos? Why not the Egyptians who werealready there?

RK: As I said before, they were a scrappy bunch. Most all therest of the world, at that particular time, was strictly matriarchalin their viewpoints. The Jews had not yet arisen as a people andthe Hyksos were interested in better ways of doing things; betterways of developing better weapons, so they had alreadydeveloped some patriarchal techniques of getting into technology.Simple though it may have been, it was nevertheless an edgethat a person would had to have in order to make harder metalfor their swords or to be able move more rapidly or to transporttheir goods. As much as they were always on the move, theywere always concerned with making better vehicles, as it were.

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CJ: So, in essence they had the ability to learn technology, asthey seem to—

RK: The inner drive to do so as well.

CJ: Well, they had seen the value of it, in that case?

RK: Right. So, the Hermetic Brotherhood decided to turn thatinto something useful and teach them something and at the sametime carry out an important function for the HermeticBrotherhood’s plan for mankind.

The Pyramid as a Future Time CapsuleCJ: All right. So, we dealt with the people who in essencecould perform a task requiring a certain level of skill. Once again,when that level of skill is used to produce an enormous stonemonument in the desert, what’s it doing out there in the desert?

RK: Well, it’s a time capsule. It preserves the timetable for thedevelopment of the future Nation of God, and gives the cominghistory of important events from 4800 BC until the time whenthat Nation would be formed. The Pyramid demonstrates that itsdesigners had a highly sophisticated knowledge of the motionsof the earth which are really very complex; ask any astronomer.They use a language of mathematics to tell history in the future.The Pyramid shows the date of birth of Jesus exactly, October4th in the year 4 BC, and gives the precise date of the beginningof World War One and the Armistice to that war.

CJ: Dick, we are getting into an area here in which there ismuch controversy these days. We are discussing the measurement

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of the lines that are inscribed along the descending and ascendingpassage ways of the Pyramid (for those who are not familiarwith the structure), but for a moment let me postulate this toyou. How can anyone build a time capsule in such a way as toactually predict future events? We are talking about a period six-thousand years ago, and for these events to be predicted withthis kind of accuracy we are discussing—I guess really prophesyis the word. What ability exists to be able to perceive the futurelike that?

RK: Well, actually it is not prophesy. The people who werehigh Adepts and Masters within the Hermetic Brotherhoodactually had the ability to see history as it occurs in the future.So, this was not a matter of speculation as far as They wereconcerned, or probabilities or things of that sort. They were seeingthe end result of the aggregate freewill decisions of billions ofpeople living between their time and the time when we would beable to translate these things.

Construction Technology of the PyramidCJ: That brings me to a question that is usually dealt with inone of these Pyramid texts. When someone starts speculating onthe type of technology or the type of construction means used toerect the structure, most of the time they start getting into superiortechnology of one kind or another regardless of whether theybelieve it was earth-born or brought from some other place andlocally—

RK: Yeah, floating stones and with—

CJ: Yes. They got the idea that with superior technology theywould cut down the time that would take to construct the Pyramid.

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I sat down with a calculator here before we came into the studioand I divided two and half million blocks by various number offigures to see how many stones one would have to dress andplace each day to construct the Pyramid in twenty-years time. Icame up with the absolutely incredible figure of three-hundred-fifteen stones per day, faced and placed, to finish the structure intwenty years. I cannot imagine having to place and cut three-hundred-fifteen stones every single day. Look at the labor andmanagement the way they get along with each—

RK: Actually it took about five times longer to build it in—

CJ: So, about a hundred years?

RK: Yes. Even with modern equipment, I don’t think we cando better than that, considering the size of the stones that wereused.

CJ: And, many of them seemed to have been faced at the quarryand moved already finished.

RK: Yes. That’s the way it did. There were just constant streamof stones coming in the canal where they—

CJ: Well that pretty much blows out the log roller idea, if youtry to move a faced stone or log, you have much less stone outthere?

RK: Some of them came from as far as two-hundred miles away.

CJ: It’s the Tura [Egypt] quarries.

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RK: Right and some of these things were granite as well.Theyhad to find sources of that. The granite stones are ones they werethe most massive. Some of those weighed about eighty-five tonseach.

CJ: Indeed. Of course today, we deal with twelve tons at themax with block and tackle and chains.

RK: Well, I can see what [Erich von] Däniken said. Well, theremust be something special that—

CJ: Many people reach that conclusion, how is that done?

RK: Very very simply, with many cranes manned by manypeople and ropes and pulleys—many of them, and clever waysof using inclined planes. And, it took a lot of “back” work. Thereis no doubt about it. But, they used oxen and things of that sort,too. But, what they did is really essentially move these thingsonto rafts, right at the sites of the quarries. Canals were builtright to those places and things were moved onto the rafts andmoved down the Nile, with the current, and returned inland at acanal that was constructed right near the Nile. Indeed, as youknow, the Great Pyramids are built right next to the Nile.

CJ: Yes. You’re right.

RK: Right. And then, it led into a series of locks that were builtup as each course of stones were laid. A series of earthen blockswere constructed. There were some bricks involved in it, and soforth, but most of the backup was dirt that would give it themass. And, the only thing that they had to do was lift water to the

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top most block. That was all the work that was required. Theyactually they floated most of these stones— all the interior stoneswere floated—right into place. Once they built the outside coursethen they just flooded that area and floated the stones right intoplace. Then they just pushed them off the rafts, using cranes insome cases. That was the only system that was used. These thingsare cemented together, however. You cannot slip a newspaperbetween—if they didn’t have the cement in there—you couldn’tslip a news paper between them. That’s how smooth these thingswere.

CJ: I have seen photographs, along with measurements, ofthose joints and they are the finest joints of mortar work I haveever seen. How is it possible to get any kind of adhesion withmortar with that tiny—

RK: They didn’t use mortar, they were using adhesive.

CJ: Like glue?

RK: Yes.

CJ: You are telling me that Great Pyramid was glued together?

RK: Right, yes. One of the components was oxen blood. Ofcourse, they had to slaughter a lot of oxen to feed all those peopleand, therefore, there was plenty of that around. But, you knowElmer’s glue is made with things that are very similar to that,anyway, so far as the stickiness is concerned. Except this adhesiveis very powerful, it really has lasted through all these manymillennium.

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CJ: Yes, there definitely have been earthquakes that haveleveled many parts of Cairo, yet the Great Pyramid, which is justacross the river from Cairo, has suffered almost no structuraldamage.

RK: Right. And there has been some—and incidentally thereare relief vents in it that absorb some of the stresses of the weightof the blocks, and to help save it in the event of earthquakes. It isan absolute marvel of engineering. And, this wasn’t somethingwhere they just piled of bunch of stones up. When they flatenedout the limestone before they laid down the very first course, itwas so engineered that when this massive weight of stone wasfinished, and they put the last piece on the top, that would bringthe base that they carved down to perfectly flat, and it started outas a spherical section. Not a very highly raised spherical section.In other words, the radius is very large on that section.

CJ: But, that the center would have been visibly—

RK: Compressed more.

CJ: Yes, well we are on the subject of taking lot of rocks andmaking a big pile, how big of pile are we talking about here?

RK: Well, that base covers thirteen and half acres. I don’t knowif you ever had to mow thirteen and half acres or to bale hay offof it. That is each side is more than two and half football fieldsin length. And, it stands forty-eight stories high. Anotherinteresting feature is that the north face is oriented precisely tothe North Pole. Of course, the Pyramid is also located on ameridian line that covers the most dry land possible in a straight-

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line journey from pole to pole, anywhere on earth. And, it is alsoon the line of latitude that covers the most dry land surface aroundthe globe, east to west.

CJ: Well, since latitude and longitude are a function of ourunderstanding of the size of the Earth and its shape, to selectsuch obvious coordinates, the people who built the Pyramid musthave had either a world map or a photograph or some conceptionof what the Earth looked like.

RK: Forty-eight hundred years ago the Hermetic Brotherhooddid have a map of the entire world as it existed then, and whichhas not changed much. They also incorporated the “pi”relationship between circumference and diameter for a circle intheir measurements, more than four thousand years beforeArchimedes discovered it.

Building the Great PyramidCJ: So, apparently, a large group of people were convinced towork on this mammoth construction job and you say no slaveswere involved?

RK: No. It was the labor of love, throughout. Volunteers gaveseveral months of labor each year, and those who were too old towork directly on a project donated food for the workers or moneyfor special materials. They obviously felt that what they werebuilding was something great in furtherance of God’s Plan. Theincredible precision and their infinite care had to stem from theirenthusiasm. Just try to imagine the training and the coordinationfor several hundred thousand workers. That is an astonishingfeat in itself.

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CJ: Right. We have precision and we have infinite care in theexecution of a building. The scope diminishes anything built inthe last several thousand years.

RK: And, no other pyramid comes anywhere near it. Thosebuilt before or after are way inferior to this one.

CJ: There were pyramids built before this one, then?

RK: Right.

Prehistory of the Great PyramidCJ: So, we have an incredible work of construction performedand executed, both in design and execution—brilliant to all othercomparisons. Where does this take us?

RK: The Great Pyramid tells us of a plan to establish the meansto preserve culture and technology, through horrendous naturalcataclysms to occur in the future. We cannot stand to lose anotherseventy-five hundred years of progress towards civilization, aswe did when the great reapportionment of the world’s land massesoccurred seventy-five hundred years ago. Now that’s three-thousand years after Atlantis sank. So that is not the localizedearthquake thing that we were talking about. With a fewexceptions, the survivors of that catastrophe returned to the stone-age existence [Neolithic] and virtually all history of the greatercivilizations that had existed on this planet were simply forgotten.The vast technology of Atlantis was lost to the world when itsank ten-thousand five-hundred years ago. And, over the nextthree-thousand years, the world’s level of technology definitelydegenerated, and we became primarily agricultural societies that

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nevertheless retained a high level of culture and stability. Butthen, seventy-five hundred years ago, the great earthquakes thataccompany the sliding of the world’s continents took place andthere were tremendous tidal waves that rolled across the land,and the majority of the people in the world were just simplywiped out. Other ruined cities were buried under sand and gravelthat was carried in by the invading seas.

CJ: Richard, I have read a bit of geology in my time, and veryfew of today’s geologists, at least the ones that are writing textbooks when I was taking the courses, very few are willing tospeculate on anything but the gradualistic theory of geology thatoceans becomes continent and vice versa, so slow that men can’tsee them. You are talking about overnight changes of a majoramount here. Could you carry that on a bit?

RK: Well, there are many people now who have been toutingthe idea that such massive land changes can occur very rapidly.The thin crust of our planet flows on the magma, which is sort oflava that has the consistency of hot tar. It moves in convectioncurrents beneath the oceans and the land. Imbalances thatinevitably build up in the planet caused the entire crust to slideover the magma to a new position relative to the poles of ourplanet, compared to the gyroscopically stable core. During thecrustal sliding process, some land sinks and some ocean bottomrises. The slip occurs suddenly and takes no more than two orthree days for the crust to find a new equilibrium. The distanceof the slip can be as much as five-thousand miles. This event hasbeen happening every five to twenty-five thousand years forhundreds of millions of years.

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CJ: You’re saying that there is a regularly period of thisincredible occurrence?

RK: Well, five to twenty-five thousand years is not too regularbut it keeps on happening this way. The effects can be seen inthe resultant rock strata that cover the planet for several miles indepth. Now, the Brotherhoods say that our Creators planned thismechanism, in order to replenish the minerals in our soil, whichare essential to plant growth, but are leached out, by say, centuriesof rainfall.

The Pyramid InchIn the earlier portion of our discussion today, you mentioned thePyramid inch, and this is probably a new item to most people—not realizing that there is more than one kind of inch. I wouldlike to quote from your book The Ultimate Frontier here, if Imay, quote, “The Pyramid is the master work of mathematicalprecision and engineering excellence and it is so constructed thatit’s dimensions will reveal certain fundamental mathematical andastronomical relationships. The language used is mathematicsand the Pyramid inch is the key.” Why don’t you give us an ideaon what the Pyramid Inch is, how it was developed, and its usein demonstrating that the Great Pyramid shows an intelligenttechnology and sciences of a superior degree.

RK: Well, the Pyramid Inch is fairly easy to establish. ThePyramid rests on a square which is exactly 36,524.2 Pyramidinches in perimeter. And one-hundredth of that figure is theprecise number of days in a solar year. The apex is 5813 Pyramidinches from the base, and that figure is equal to the radius of thecircle—the same as the perimeter of the square. So, both of those

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figures give you the number of days to a thousandths of the dayin a year. Other such relationships in the Pyramid indicate thatit, indeed, is the exact unit of measure and we call it the PyramidInch. That, incidentally, is precisely one-five-hundred-millionthof the diameter of the Earth through its polar axis. Apparently,even They were aware that the earth is not a perfect sphere andthat the best way to measure its diameter is along its axis.

Man’s Monument to ManI would say that obviously the science of the ancient HermeticBrotherhoods was quite exact. If you consider the thought thatmust have gone into the preparation and construction of thePyramid, you have to be amazed at the thoroughness of the work.They devised a monument which would endure weather andearthquake, so that minute measurements could be taken almostseven millennia later. The relationships that they used for clueswere such that not until science became advanced again, that isoutside of the Brotherhoods, and a proper unit of measure wasdiscerned, could we solve the mystery of the Pyramid’s purpose.When the tomb was entered by Egyptologist, it was immediatelyapparent that the Pyramid was never intended to be a Pharaoh’slast resting place or to hold a mummy. The Great Pyramid atGizeh is unique in this respect.

CJ: All right. We are driving at the point here that the GreatPyramid of Gizeh was not constructed as the Pharaoh’s burialplace, it was not made as a monument to anything, but it wasintended to tell a story or to convey certain informationconcerning mankind. How is this referenced in the Great Pyramid,and what is this Great Plan?

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RK: Well, let me start by saying that Christ’s Plan forestablishing a great civilization was formulated about seven-thousand years ago by Him, in conjunction with a dozen Mastersof the Ancient Mystic Brotherhoods of scientist-philosophers thatChrist founded. Christ has since maintained mental contact withthese highest of human Egos, and that is through them thatChrist’s plans are coordinated and passed down to living workerson the physical plane.

Using the Hyksos to build the Pyramid, in 4,700 BC, was thefirst outward sign of Their Plan. Bringing the Jews to Egypt,where they could be trained in the ways of building their owncivilization was foretold in the Pyramid as being in 1486 BCwith the advent of Joseph. One of the most significant fulfillmentsof the Gizeh prophecies was contained in the public revelationsmade by Isaiah around 700 BC when the Hebrew prophetdisclosed the Brotherhoods’ plan for the appearance of Christ inGalilee. Then after Isaiah’s disclosure, the Brotherhoods reallybegan in earnest the preparations for Christ coming in a body ofa man to work directly among us. Their long and tediouspreparations were then coming to a climax.

Incidentally, that century following Isaiah’s revelation wasremarkable for the appearance of religious leaders all along thewhole of the Eastern Trade Route. Each of these leaders wassuccessful in awakening religious understanding among thepeople to whom They revealed insights into proper moral conductand the meaning of life.

CJ: Would you say that the advent of Christ was essentiallythe last outward sign in this kind of activity?

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RK: No, they were really getting into full swing by then. A seriesof nations in the western world were civilized through theinspiration of the Brotherhoods into a progression of steppingstones, as it were, leading towards the eventual evolution of theNation of God. Hopefully the concepts that Christ expoundedtwo-thousand years ago have been taken to heart by a growingnumber of people, who have refined these concepts and havepassed along their mental and moral advancement to theirchildren and to their communities as well, so that a nominalproportion of world practices mature attitudes of humanness.At last, Christ has some reasonable raw material with which towork that is certainly a far cry from the wretched creatures hefound here two-thousand years ago.

ClosingCJ: Richard, that pretty much wraps up the time we haveallotted for today’s discussion. I would like to thank you verymuch for participating. Certainly some notes of interest in mymind. I hope we have stimulated some imagination in some ofthe people at home.

RK: Glad to have been of service. Look forward to seeing youat our next program.

CJ: All right Richard.

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Christ’s Plan for establishing a great civilization wasformulated about seven-thousand years ago by Him, inconjunction with a dozen Masters of the Ancient MysticBrotherhoods of scientist-philosophers which Christfounded. Christ has since maintained mental contact withthese highest of human Egos, and that is through themthat Christ’s plans are coordinated and passed down toliving workers on the physical plane.

Using the Hyksos to build the Pyramid at Gizeh, in 4,700B.C., was the first outward sign of Their Plan. They thentrained the Hebrews who were in Egypt, in the ways ofbuilding their own civilization. This was foretold in thePyramid as being in 1486 BC with the advent of Joseph.One of the most significant fulfillments of the Gizehprophecies was contained in the public revelations madeby Isaiah around 700 BC when the Hebrew prophetdisclosed the Brotherhoods’ plan for the appearance ofChrist in Galilee. Then after Isaiah’s disclosure, theBrotherhoods really began in earnest the preparations forChrist coming in a body of a man to work directly amongus. Their long and tedious preparations were then comingto a climax.

Incidentally, that century following Isaiah’s revelation wasremarkable for the appearance of religious leaders allalong the whole Eastern Trade Route. Each of these leaderswas successful in awakening religious understandingamong the people to whom They revealed insights intoproper moral conduct and the meaning of life.

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