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    Further Interactions with Bruce Waltke: Introduction Part 4

    Posted on June 2nd, 2009 by Pete Enns

    This is the fourth of several posts continuing the exchange between Bruce Waltkeand me, posted earlier on this site, that first appeared in the WestminsterTheological Journal. Click here to read Waltkes follow-up to that exchange(PDF), which has already appeared in the latest issue of WTJ (and is also postedhere with permission.)

    Read Part One of my response here.Read Part Two of my response here.Read Part Three of my response hereHere is the fourth part of my response to Waltkes follow-up piece:Waltke is No FundamentalistI can understand why, in view of my previous response, Waltke would want topoint out that he holds views that are considered progressive and thereforeproblematic by fundamentalists. He is open to multi-authorship of Isaiah, an

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    exilic date for the final form of the Deuteronomy, and theistic evolution. I amalready aware of this, although those who look to Waltke to champion theirfundamentalist causes should take careful note how much Waltke is conceding onthese points. Waltke is to be commended for expressing himself so clearly.Still, given the groundwork that Waltke has laid thus far, I wonder if he wouldnot be more consistent if he did maintain a fundamentalist posture on theseissues. For, as Greg Beale has recently reminded us (The Erosion of Inerrancy),any talk of multi-authorship of Isaiah is to discredit the very words of Jesushimself, who quoted from various portions of the book but referred consistentlyto Isaiah. If, after all, Scripture is the very truth of God revealed, and ifthere can be no foible or misrepresentation of historical fact, must we not takeJesus testimony with utter seriousness, lest we attribute to Scripturenonsense and human error? How can we arrive at conclusions Jesus himself didnot and would not accept? The same goes for pentateuchal authorship, and mostcertainly for evolution. To accept these progressive views, even as a possibleoptions, seems to me to be more problematic for Waltke than he admits.I would suggest that for Waltke to maintain his progressive (and correct) views,he must employ a hermeneutic and derivative doctrine of Scripture that are moresubtle than the principles he employs with respect to my arguments. In otherwords, I dont think he can have it both ways. The manner in which he argues

    against some of my views discredits some of his own more progressive views.

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