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A337

File DesignComputerized and Manual

Systems3/27/08

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Topics for next five weeks:

• Basic discussion of how accounting information systems have evolved from manual to computerized systems

• Normalization of data - structure of databases - taking the data as “given”

• Discussion of Microsoft Access and other DBMS systems

• REA analysis (REAL) another tool for designing the structure of databases - but not taking the data as given.

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Topics

• How do accounting systems work in a manual world– SUA

• First extension– Same basic structure, but automating the updating

process

• Second extension– Transaction entry from screen documents– ACCPAC, PeachTree, Great Plains

• Third extension– Integrated

accounting/management/finance/marketing software

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Let’s look at the SUA

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Let’s look at the SUA

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Let’s look at the SUA

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Let’s look at the SUA

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First Extension

• Automating data entry– Ledgers should not be modified directly

• (only through data entry)

– There should be a “log” of all data entry– Access to data entry should be controlled

• Example - project 2b

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First Extension

• This extension essentially just took the manual system and put it on computer

• There were no REAL changes in the structure.

• The journal/ledger structure might be affected.

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Where would we go next?

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Second Extension

• Focus is still on Accounting, but the transaction data that is captured and stored is expanded.

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Traditional Accounting SystemJournals (where data is recorded)

SALES JOURNAL DECEMBER

Inv. or Subs. Subs. CreditCr. Memo Acct. Post Acct. Rec. Sales Returns Sales

Date Customer Number No. G/L 10200 G/L 30200 G/L 30100Dec. 4 Bertram Appliance 726 406 P 13,500.00 13,500.00Dec. 5 Hanover Hardware 727 408 P 6,700.00 6,700.00Dec. 11 Bertram Appliance 728 406 P 9,850.00 9,850.00Dec. 13 Hanover Hardware 729 408 P 1,716.00 1,716.00

Debit

What information is recorded??

PURCHASES JOURNAL DECEMBER

Vendor Debit CreditInvoice Purchases Other G/L A/P - G/L 20100 Purch. Ret.

Date Vendor No. G/L 30500 Acc# Amount Post Subs. A/C# Amount Post G/L 30600Dec. 11 Chicago Office Supply 2179 10800 8,268.00 253 8,268.00 PDec. 22 Super Electric Co. 18719 19,795.00 252 19,795.00 P

etcetera

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Traditional Accounting System

• No information can be in the ledgers that was not recorded in the journals – the ledgers are a direct transcription

(posting) of the journals

• The accounting system ONLY contains transaction information (an exchange has occurred)

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Traditional Accounting System

• Each customer, vendor, or other party that we engage in transactions with will probably have a file that details our interactions

• Once we engage in a transaction, the data is, of course recorded in a journal. Sometimes, even with traditional systems, we maintain additional information - but typically in a different place and there is no necessary reconciliation of the two sources of information.

How and where is the data stored

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Traditional Accounting SystemWho has ownership/access to the data

• With a traditional system, data entry of accounting information is maintained by the bookkeeper or accountant.

• Sales data is maintained in the sales department

• Accounts receivable information is maintained in Accounts receivable perhaps.

• There are varying degrees of DBMS approaches

• One transaction cycle might involve interaction with all business cells, while others may not.

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Event-driven database approach• Many events lead up to what ultimately becomes a

transaction– Example - sale

• Receipt of Purchase Order• Preparation of Sales Order Header• Accepting credit / approving transaction• Shipping the goods• Preparation of the invoice

– Information is added at each event. If we record events we have a more complete tracing of the transaction

How are databases different from traditional storage for accounting information?

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• Event-driven system– Typically all of the document information is included

in the database (otherwise why would you have it on the document?)

• Who, What, When, Where from a document is recorded– Example from the SUA

How are databases different from traditional storage for accounting information?

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Where

Who

What

When

How are databases different from traditional storage for accounting information?

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Third Extension

• Enterprise - Resource - Planning (ERP) systems

• Sold/provided by large software vendors

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ERPsEnterprise Resource Planning

software• What it is:

– Integrative Software Tool that incorporates:• Production• Accounting• Marketing• Human Resources• Financial Management

– Modules• Programs on top of a database structure• Frequently Oracle databases are used

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Providers

• SAP – they were the leader

• Oracle – since they were the database leader they already

had the infrastructure

• JDEdwards• PeopleSoft

– started as a Human Resource Mgt company and then expanded from there.

• OTHERS...

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Approaches

• In house– Large data requirements and personnel

commitment– Better control over features– Faster application

• Web driven– Lower cost– Security issues?

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Advantages of ERPs

• Coordination and business process improvement– If everyone else in your industry has better

business processes than your company, what does that mean to you?…..

• Better information– You are more aware of how efficiently you

are operating.

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Disadvantages of ERPs

• Cost– ERPs (especially In House) are quite expensive to

implement. There is also a LONG startup period (two to three years)

• People– Many people may not buy into it - and it doesn’t work

unless everyone (or most everyone) does.– Personnel to run the system are expensive and hard

to keep for In House systems

• It can overwhelm your business

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What does it mean to auditors

• Should be viewed as both an opportunity and a threat to assurance services– Opportunity - consulting and implementation

services can provide additional revenues– Threat - data security is a big question mark

for ERPs

• Auditors cannot afford to be behind the technological curve here