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Do you think the Avo would make a cool music venue in downtown?? Live bands, concerts, DJ’s,

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Vista to explore proposed new direction for Avo playhouse

City council to vote Tuesday on entering exclusive negotiating agreement with…

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Rachel Whitley Beld I’m stoked on this!

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Nicholas Collier Need some country artist to play here

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Margo Cobian Yes!!!!!

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Rachael Wilson Yeeeeessssss!!!!!

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Michael George Hadland Yes!

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Ruben Ortiz A club that caters to different genres on specific days. So allcan enjoy it.

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James Robert Holthus Yes! Theatre & Live music!!

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Garrett Naylor I don’t even live there anymore and I think that’s a greatidea!

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Melissa Tamayo Saldivar Yes yes yes!!

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Mark Gaffney Yes!

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Ryan Coleman Yes and on second thought yes!

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Lynn Schumacher Yes yes yes!!!

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Jennifer Turner- Robertson ABSOLUTELY!!!!

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Thom Holland I see nothing wrong with it.

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Robere D'Agostini I think that would be great for Vista

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Mary Verne Donovan Yes

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Dinah Poellnitz U can do that as a city. U don’t need a developer to helpu

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Dani Witkowski Yes great idea

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Sarah Imm Holt Yes would love it!!!

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Darcy Irwin Wolfe Yes !!

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Lissa Robinette Yes

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Daria Paris Davis Yes, absolutely! I love this idea! It would be great tohave a venue like this in North County!

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Terri Mitchell Definitely

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Dinah Poellnitz You and the council are lazy. We have a city manager andparks n rec department. Why are you allowing a developer to do their joband profit. Even San Diego owns comic con convention. Griffith parkobservatory is controlled by the city. The avo can create revenue and jobsfor the city. What are you guys actually doing for Vista????!!!

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Aaron Love Dinah Poellnitz what exactly are you doing for yourcommunity? It takes the people to interact and make it happen. Noneed to be so rude.

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Dinah Poellnitz Aaron Love Look me up

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Dinah Poellnitz Aaron Love also contact Sarah Spinks if you wantto understand how the city of Vista has created stonewalls for thecommunity to utilize the AVO and cabaret permits.

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Aaron Love Sarah Spinks is a friend of mine FYI. Joe Greenas well Iam very aware of what is going on. I have been road block from theconstruction happening on Santa Fe. I probly should havementioned that I am the owner of one of the local businesses and Ido not have a chip on my shoulder because of it. Understand if onedoes not speak up how can they help. So many different directionsin city development. It's not easy. Don't just point the finger. Makea difference.

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Dinah Poellnitz Aaron Love we do lots for Vista and Oceanside.Our biggest roadblock are our city council, city manager and parksn rec leadership. I’m pointing all my fingers because I’ve done thework and know who’s been hurting the community chances toevolve

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Aaron Love That's how it works. I may not be fair. But money growon trees. They also need direction on what needs to be done first. Ipersonally had a conversation with the one who is running thedevelopment on Santa fe. About the detour turning southboundtraffic away from us. A 20 min professional conversation can go along way with the right attitude.

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Dinah Poellnitz Aaron Love Stop telling me what a professionalconversation is when I sit on art and culture boards and the onlynon profit in North County to receive a California Art Council grantand own the organization that influenced the state’s decision todesignate Oceanside an art district. U run a restaurant. I coordinateart for the city of Oceanside. I have eight years dealing with citypolitics for the arts

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Aaron Love Sounds good. I'm done with this conversation. Thankyou for your input. I simply didn't take well to your personal attackon my friends. I apologize if I upset you. Have a great day

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Dinah Poellnitz Aaron Love I don’t take well with men makingassumptions. One day we will meet. I know joe. He could do better.

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Aaron Love Dinah Poellnitz I'll buy you a drink. Be well.

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Dinah Poellnitz Aaron Love Im so down for it. Happy Sunday

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Aaron Love Dinah Poellnitz come see us! We do not disappoint! Ipromise!

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Claire Hyde Dinah Poellnitz hey there. I read the comments onyour page on a similar post. You want the Moonlight to be like theHollywood Bowl? I’ve lived in Vista almost my entire life, and I ambeyond proud of the way culture, arts, and locally ownedbusinesses are beginning to gain grounding here. I don’t want aHollywood Bowl. I don’t want a Belly Up. I wasn’t responsiblebuilds that reflect our resident’s needs and wants. It’s really hardto take anyone seriously who comes from a point of anger withoutwillingness to have a civil conversation, too. You call out our cityfor being lazy, so Id recommend that you attend a city councilmeeting to make your voice heard.

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Dinah Poellnitz Claire Hyde God Bless You.

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Dinah Poellnitz Claire Hyde you’re Big Mad claiming I come from aplace of anger.lol

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Claire Hyde Dinah Poellnitz I don’t do internet arguments. Sorry.

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Dinah Poellnitz Claire Hyde yet you’re here. Joe is my friend. Thecity council and economic development director have done a poorjob including the community into the Vista’s vision andstonewalling citizens from building an authentic art & music scene.The moonlight theatre and AVO belong to vista voters. We have ayoung demographic here who enjoy music and art. Why wouldyou want vista residents spending their money outside our city forentertainment? Why are you ok with city staff not bookingvendors and entertainment to utilize those spaces to bring inrevenue greater than RENT?. It’s shortsighted to hand over to adeveloper for a rental fee without thinking about revenues in thefuture. It’s a lazy and a cheap idea. Civility only works in politiciansadvantage. They work for us not developers. Instead of tonepolicing me a non politician, you should be asking joe why are theyhanding our resources to developers? If u don’t FB argumentsdon’t reply. It’s a choice

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Dinah Poellnitz Aaron Love I haven’t been since the last owners.Looking forward to experiencing under new ownership

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Frank Sloat Gentrification the gift that keeps on "giving" to the fatcats bring back ArtBeat

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Dinah Poellnitz Frank Sloat the city can apply for grants and statecultural district designation. They aren’t creatively city planningfor economic development. The aesthetic of new development is acookie cutter development I see all over the state and the south.We are California. This city council has us looking like Texas andArizona with chain restaurants and vacant city venues

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Crocker Price Dinah Poellnitz, TELLS IT LIKE IT IS.

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Aaron Love Dinah Poellnitz I look forward to it! Family ownedestablishment. Live music. Soul food. It has been rough with theconstruction and we could use all the support we can get. I'll buyyour first drink. Cheers!

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Dinah Poellnitz Aaron Love Sarah and I are talking about comingby this week

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Aaron Love Dinah Poellnitz that's great! Sarah Spinks is awesome!

I've known her since high school

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Dinah Poellnitz Aaron Love she’s my best friend

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Daniel Flores Yessir we need something

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Larry Ward Yup, we need a night club

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Aaron Love Surprised that it hasn't been

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Crystal MacNeil Yes!

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Adam Heard Ummmmmm duh

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Alma Sanchez Yup!

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Laura Vega Bacon Yeeeeeees!

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Michael Saldaña Awesome idea

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Kent Leithold YES!!!!!!!!!!!

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Yolanda Herrera Sweeney Yes please!

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Katie Ziegler Smith Absolutely.

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Toria Watson Yes!

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Matt Koumaras Absolutely!!! It would be perfect.

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Lamar Lacañgan Yes! I'd definitely rock it for the hometown!!

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Lorie Heard Guba Yes!

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Ashli West Spayde Heck yeah!

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CJ Palmer Yepper!!

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Glenda Garcia YES!!!!

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Claire Hyde So, I love live music, places like The Observatory and BellyUp are my favorite. But I’m not sure our three-block downtown cansustain what that brings. We already have a parking issue, and musicvenues like that have a significant impact on residents of the area.

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Maggie Marez Witt I agree. The same developer is the onebuilding that ugly high rise apts. that took away the local businessparking. What is the city's answer to more parking?

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Claire Hyde Maggie Marez Witt it’s not even just that. It’s theamounts of people leaving the venue after drinking for hours.Getting in cars. Walking through neighborhoods. There’s a facet ofpublic safety to be considered as well.

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Maggie Marez Witt Claire Hyde I'm sure they would have that inconsideration and beef up security. As for the neighborhood closeby, they probably would have noise ordinances. But could it beany worse than the all night parties around my house, I think not? Iwould love to see different types of entertainment to include all.

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Jaime Aguilar Hell yeah Joe Green

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Jaime Aguilar Lowriders and all kinds of cars and bikes Joe Green

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Deanna Hogue Hell yes!!! That would be awesome! My concern is parkingthough...

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Meyer-Bayston Renee Deanna Hogue parking we got parking mayneed to walk a bit but it’s not a bad walking distance from parkingarea’s we have downtown! We have parades ect downtowneveryone can find parking!

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Meyer-Bayston Renee Trust me I know people can find paring theypark in front of my house which isn’t really enough room on streetto do that and downtown is walking distance not far!!!

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Deanna Hogue Meyer-Bayston Renee For people in town, we canalready find parking no problem because we know where to park...I’m just saying if people are coming from out of town for the showsmight cause a wee bit of a problem.

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Meyer-Bayston Renee Deanna Hogue that’s when Joe Green findsa location to shuttle them from what designated spot Vista wantsthem to park in and charge for that the city of Vista a make profitfor this being provided!!!!

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Meyer-Bayston Renee There is always a solution!!! And this

awesome for my hometown Vista!

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Bethany Hawley Falefitu Deanna Hogue wait didn’t we vote tobuild a 5 story parking garage in Vista to help with parking? Ohwait no it actually was for a 5 story apartment building.....

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Julian Shadle YES please.!! Complete remodel of more is needed!! BellyUp North?!?!

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Meyer-Bayston Renee Joe Green Absolutely that’s what I posted aboutwow Vista needs this!!!!

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Lupe Coons Absolutely! And I agree 100% that it should caterto a variety of genres so everyone can enjoy the venue. Just like the

Observatory in North Park.

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Brenda Dotts I would love it but hope they can continue what they havegoing. There are so many dedicated fans of the winter theatreperformance. You know me though, I am all for local artists and more!

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Nick James Heck yes

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Nick James Too bad I live near downtown now

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Cynthia Reyna Yes! Tired of having to drive out to Belly Up!

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Marina Estrada-Morales Great idea!!

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Maggie Marez Witt Will there space to dance?

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Teresa Ramos Stewart Yes

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Dale Ginos I think it’s a great use of space. Needs to be more than aweekend venue

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Doreen Callewaert Great idea! Wildwood Crossing also has a great venuefor good food, drinks, live music and dancing.

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George Alves Jr. Yes

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Rebecca Jones Yes!!!

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Jason Wheelock I’ve been thinking that for a bit now. Wish I had themoney. I’d make it happen

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Clay Colton Concert hall!! A Belly Up style venue in Vista! Hit me up forsound system design.

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Julie Lowen Downtown Vista should become a haven for music andentertainment! Awesome idea...

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Rebecca Jaime Yes!!!

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Daniel Salas And Comedy club

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Todd Huston Trevor Daigle

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Brian Troxell Belly up at the Avo

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Daniel Hoffman Oh yes in dee dee I sure do!

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Laurie Edwards-Tate Yes

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Maggie Vanderloop Quigless That would be awesome

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Mark Ross I know some performers...

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Clay Colton Imagine the Avo looking like this -

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Carl Chico Treutle Great idea and will be the heartbeat of our downtown!!

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Luminaria Âû We could use something classier than Smitty’s...

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Chris Ryan Yes!!! Would love to have a venue for touring bands here inVista!

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Cheryl Fenrich Stoner Yes!

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Roger Browning Do you think people would show up?

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Salina Imoto Definitely!!

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Kathy Brombacher No from me. I like the live theatre venue whichbrought life to downtown Vista when it opened in 1995 and had 25 yearsof Moonlight's Winter Season presented in the AVO Playhouse. Therenovation of the playhouse took the AVO from a derelict movie theatre toits present capabilities for youth theatre, adult theatre and communityevents. It's a beautiful theatre and it would be sad to see it torn up.

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Joey Workman Joey, I’m giving you the green light!

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Roland Allen Joe Green, you might check out the cave in big bear. Theytook a theater and made it a music venue. It’s very popular.

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Eduardo Javier Aguilar It would be great but first let’s see the moonlighthost concerts and events for the Latino community of Vista. I have livedin Vista for almost 10 years and know the the brown population of thistown is present but not well represented in city government, city jobs, orcultural events.

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Kirstie Sampson YES! And country fest?! YES!

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Jennifer Vogel Would be great!!

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Deborah Clevers Yes & why not?

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Danielle Cowan Yas!!

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Michael McSweeney Just look what Live Nation has done for the old EastCounty Performing Arts Center, now The Magnolia

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Ryan Walker Has always been one of my life long dreams for downtownVista

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Heidi Enciso Guerrero That would be perfect !!

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Carmen Gonzalez A salsa night would be fun

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Brad Wiscons I would speak to the local colleges and university in NorthCounty to check on their build out plans. I would have to invest a greatdeal of money into the Avo and have it compete with newer facilities oncampus. I also strong recommend speaking to a… See More

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Debbie Odash Yes!

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Luisa Desiderio Yes yes yes

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Ava Morrow Musnicki YES!

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Joe Green Here is the summary of the agenda item. You’re also welcometo read the entire report and all attachments on city web site listed below.All comments above will be made part of our agenda package for tonight’smeeting... Please come to meeting 5:30pm City Hall. If you wanna hear my take on it,and speak directly to your council. You can also now watch live online..Thanks for your input.

C7. EXCLUSIVE NEGOTIATION AGREEMENT FOR THE LEASE OF THEAVO PLAYHOUSE (CC) JCG Development has expressed interest inrestoring the AVO Playhouse and bringing potential music and liveentertainment partners to the venue. The City has negotiated the terms ofan Exclusive Negotiation Agreement (ENA) with JCG Development givingboth parties time to explore costs, lease terms, and other options. The Cityand JCG will have twelve months to determine whether or not thisdevelopment project is feasible through several milestones as outlined inSection 6 of the agreement.

https://vista.granicus.com/GeneratedAgendaViewer.php...

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Dinah Poellnitz Joe Green can u begin sharing more details of yourvision on social media?

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Meyer-Bayston Renee Joe Green right on I’ll be there never beento one of these. I’m not even sure where I’ll find this meeting atcivic center!!!

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Joe Green Dinah, I’m not sure what “vision” you’d like shared.After the meeting I’ll for sure provide a video link to the discussionon this topic. As far as my city goes, my job as a council member isto focus on; Public Safety, Infrastructure, and Businessdevelopment. I have no agenda aside from insuring my city is aplace where every person can live, thrive, and feel safe. My hope isthat we will continue to build a city that my kids will want to comeback and live in someday. I’ve been a Vistan for 35years andthere’s no place I’d rather call home. If you ever wanna schedule a

meeting with me (even though you’re an Oside resident ) tobounce any ideas around, my door is always open. I hope youhave a great day, and thanks for all you do for our community.

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Dinah Poellnitz Joe Green I’m in my 40s. I’ve been in vista sincethe 70s. I hope your vision includes the city not selling offresources when we should have city staff who can build art andentertainment authentically. I’m not asking for all your agenda. I’masking how do u plan to persevere Vista’s civic identity within thecity’s leadership instead of outsourcing to developers. Not deep.When i see u, I would like to discuss further

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Ava Morrow Musnicki Joe Green What an excellent vision! Focusing on the needs of the current residents while keeping inmind the future generations. Every great organization of people

engenders safety.

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Joe Green Dinah this is a discussion to explore potential optionswith the site that do not include the sale of any city resources. Thisis simply a discussion to explore possibilities of a full time tenantthat would dump millions into improving the city’s facility. TheAvo currently sits empty 200+ days per year as the theateraspect/use hasn’t sustained a year round attendance whichadversely affects our local businesses. Again I welcome a meetingwith you, but wanted to be clear we are not selling away any cityassets. Thanks again for your time.

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Dinah Poellnitz Joe Green the AVO is empty because it’s poorlymanaged and the longer the city delays improvements increase thecost of improvements. Vista voters should own the AVO. AVO is agreat opportunity to create professional art sector jobs and tourismrevenue. I hope the city is not being cheap and giving a developer50 year lease to make profit while we are stuck with a developerspaying cheap rent.

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Meyer-Bayston Renee Joe Green I also want something downtownto part of Vista’s history Santa Fe railroad not that is heart ofVista!!!!

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Katie Melendez I've read the agenda, and I'll see you tonight

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Wendy Wagner Conlee I see both sides, but something to consider islocal Beaumont Elementary... they use this venue for their annual play.Will they still be guaranteed use?

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Victoria Crostini I’ve said it many many times. But glad the people arelistening to you Joe!!! Genius idea!! A mini Belly Up. But isn’t that whatthe brewery down the street is building on Santa Fe at the Roundabout?

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Meyer-Bayston Renee Joe Green downtown Vista needs this seriously...

https://youtu.be/EBGsSRpl-W8

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