alfred kröner
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0:00:00.470,0:00:05.920Thetimenowis18:25and9seconds...now
0:00:05.940,0:00:12.679Okaythankyouverymuchforjoiningme...wouldyoumindstatingyournameandoccupationplease?
0:00:12.699,0:00:14.849MynameisAlfredKrner
0:00:14.869,0:00:20.839I'mattheuniversityofMainzinwestGermanyandI'maretiredprofessorofgeology
0:00:20.859,0:00:23.999UnderUKlawImustinformyou
0:00:24.019,0:00:30.589thatthiscommunictionisbeingrecorded,doIhaveyourpermissiontomakethesecontentspublic?
0:00:30.609,0:00:31.499Sure!
0:00:31.519,0:00:33.890Thankyouverymuch!
0:00:33.910,0:00:39.260I'mjustgoingtoaskyouafewshortquestions,thefirstoneI'dliketoaskyou...
0:00:39.280,0:00:43.800youweretheAlfredKrnerthatfeaturedinavideo
0:00:43.820,0:00:51.080commentingontheQuran,thiswasbackinthelate70'sorearly80's
0:00:51.100,0:00:58.290CanIaskwhatcircumstancesledtoyouattendingthisconference?
0:00:58.310,0:01:02.449Well,therewerenospecialcircumstances.Thiswasaprofessionalconferencewheremanyforeigners
0:01:02.469,0:01:08.129andArabpeoplewheremeetingbecauseitwasthefirsttimethatamajor
0:01:08.149,0:01:10.970researchprojecthadbeenundertakeninSaudiArabia
0:01:10.990,0:01:16.480andtheuniversityofJeddah,thatmeansKingAbdulazizuniversityactuallyconductedthisconference
0:01:16.500,0:01:23.339becausemanyofthelecturersandseniorstudentsofthatuniversityhadactuallygraduatedfrom
0:01:23.359,0:01:28.730BritainorthewesternEuropeancountriesandthereforewantedtoshowofftheir
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0:01:29.370,0:01:34.550SowasitspecificallyaconferenceabouttheQuranandreligion?
0:01:34.570,0:01:38.350Orwasitaconferenceaboutsomethingelse?
0:01:38.370,0:01:43.710Ithadnothingwhatsoevertodowithreligion,itwaspurelyaprofessionalconferenceongeology
0:01:43.730,0:01:50.950NotasinglewordwastalkedaboutreligionortheQuranoranything!
0:01:50.970,0:01:55.900Whatwerethecircumstanceswhichledyoutobeingpresentedwithreligioustext
0:01:55.920,0:01:59.570andthenbeingaskedtocommentonit?
0:01:59.590,0:02:00.750Well...
0:02:00.770,0:02:08.340duringtheconferencetherewasandinterviewerinSaudiTVorganisedbythethenvicepresident
0:02:08.360,0:02:10.649ofthatparticularuniversity
0:02:10.669,0:02:13.660andtherewereaboutfiveorsix,
0:02:13.680,0:02:16.740Ican'tremembersowell,professorsfromvarious
0:02:16.760,0:02:20.329EuropeanandnorthAmericanuniversities
0:02:20.349,0:02:23.490thatattendedthisTVinterview
0:02:23.510,0:02:25.789anditwasthereforthefirsttimethat
0:02:25.809,0:02:29.259wewereconfrontedwiththesequestions
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"TowhatextenttheQuranwascompatiblewithpresentdaythinkinginEarthsciences?"
0:02:37.279,0:02:45.399YourcommentswerelaterusedtosuggestthatyouthoughttheQurancontainedinformationwhichcouldnothavebeenknownbyhumansatthetime
0:02:45.419,0:02:47.089withoutdivinerevelation
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0:02:47.109,0:02:51.509Doyouthinkthatthisaccuratelyreflectsyouropinionatthetime?
0:02:51.529,0:02:55.679Wellthatwasnotatallthepurposeandthediscussionthatwehad,
0:02:55.699,0:02:56.769thediscussionwas...
0:02:56.789,0:03:01.709theywerereadinguscertainversesfromtheQuranandtheythentheywouldsay
0:03:01.729,0:03:03.880"Isthiscompatiblewithmoderndayscientificknowledge?"
0:03:03.900,0:03:09.020Insomecaseswesaidyes,becausealways(there)isinalmosteveryreligionisalwayssomething
0:03:09.040,0:03:12.969thatiscompatibleandinothercaseswesaid"No"
0:03:12.989,0:03:18.869Sotherewasneverthequestionwhethertherewasanydivinecircumstancesoran
ythinginthisinterview0:03:18.889,0:03:22.980Didyouevertrytohavethesevideosremovedfromtheweb?
0:03:23.000,0:03:25.469No
0:03:25.489,0:03:29.439ActuallythereissomethingthatI'vediscoveredmorerecently
0:03:29.459,0:03:31.799someonegavemeaQuranasagift,
0:03:31.819,0:03:38.129andasIturntothebackoftheQuranyouareactuallyinmyQuran!
0:03:38.149,0:03:43.079Ididn'tknowifyouknewthat,butyou'reinaholybook!
0:03:43.099,0:03:47.550Ihaveseenthis!Ialsohaveacopyofthisathome.
0:03:47.570,0:03:51.359Ireaditmanymanymanyyearsagobutithasnothingtodowiththatparticularmeeting.
0:03:51.379,0:03:55.569Haveyoulookedintothesubjectanyfurthersincethisevent?
0:03:55.589,0:03:55.980No!
0:03:56.000,0:03:59.239andhasyouropinionchangedsincetheevent?
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0:03:59.259,0:04:04.639Well,yousee,thisconferencewasIthinkin'79andnothinghappenedand...
0:04:04.659,0:04:09.680Youknow,thiswholethingwiththeInternetactuallyonlycameupaboutmaybefouryearsagoorsomething?
0:04:09.700,0:04:10.980Ican'tevenremember!
0:04:11.000,0:04:14.380andthensomebodysentmeamessageontheInternet
0:04:14.400,0:04:18.769andIrepliedandsaid"OhIamverysurprisedbutthisisnothowitwas"andsoon
0:04:18.789,0:04:20.780andthencontinuouslymoremessagescame
0:04:20.800,0:04:24.929andthenItalkedtopeopleinmydepartment,wehaveageographydepartment
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wheretherearetwopeoplewhoarereallyspeakingArabicandtheyareArabists,0:04:29.160,0:04:32.780asasyouwouldcallthem,andtheyreallyknowtheArabworldextremelywell
0:04:32.800,0:04:34.230andItoldthemaboutthisandtheysaid
0:04:34.250,0:04:42.880"Look,thereisnothingyoucando,youjusthavetolivewiththis,leaveitalonebecausewecan'tadviseyoutodoanything.Itwillnothelp!"
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FinallymayIask,didyoubecomeaMuslimsasaresultofthisevent?
0:04:49.500,0:04:52.980NoI'veneverbeenaMuslimbeforeandI'veneverbeenaMuslimafterwards!
0:04:53.000,0:04:54.480[Bothlaugh]
0:04:54.500,0:04:58.480Andfinally,towrapup...couldyouconfirm...
0:04:58.500,0:05:04.380Aretheopinionsthatyou'vestatedinthisvideointerviewyourown?
0:05:04.400,0:05:05.480Thisonethatwearetalkingaboutright?
0:05:05.500,0:05:07.180Yesthatwearehavingrightatthismoment!
0:05:07.200,0:05:09.680Sure,thisismyownopinion!
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0:05:09.700,0:05:14.680AndhaveIofferedyouanyrewardforthis?Financialorotherwise?
0:05:14.700,0:05:15.580[Laughing]No,notyet!
0:05:15.600,0:05:16.880[BothlaughatAlfred'sfunnyjoke]
0:05:16.900,0:05:18.480Iwon'tbeofferingyouanythingeither!
0:05:18.500,0:05:20.480[BothlaughatTheRationalizer'sequallyfunnyjoke]
0:05:20.500,0:05:24.880Okay,wellthankyouverymuchAlfredforagreeingtodothisinterview
0:05:24.900,0:05:29.380Iwilltrytomakesureasmanypeoplemirrorthisvideoaspossible
0:05:29.400,0:05:29.680Sure!
0:05:29.700,0:05:37.705Thetimenowis18:30and39seconds...now