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    0:00:00.470,0:00:05.920Thetimenowis18:25and9seconds...now

    0:00:05.940,0:00:12.679Okaythankyouverymuchforjoiningme...wouldyoumindstatingyournameandoccupationplease?

    0:00:12.699,0:00:14.849MynameisAlfredKrner

    0:00:14.869,0:00:20.839I'mattheuniversityofMainzinwestGermanyandI'maretiredprofessorofgeology

    0:00:20.859,0:00:23.999UnderUKlawImustinformyou

    0:00:24.019,0:00:30.589thatthiscommunictionisbeingrecorded,doIhaveyourpermissiontomakethesecontentspublic?

    0:00:30.609,0:00:31.499Sure!

    0:00:31.519,0:00:33.890Thankyouverymuch!

    0:00:33.910,0:00:39.260I'mjustgoingtoaskyouafewshortquestions,thefirstoneI'dliketoaskyou...

    0:00:39.280,0:00:43.800youweretheAlfredKrnerthatfeaturedinavideo

    0:00:43.820,0:00:51.080commentingontheQuran,thiswasbackinthelate70'sorearly80's

    0:00:51.100,0:00:58.290CanIaskwhatcircumstancesledtoyouattendingthisconference?

    0:00:58.310,0:01:02.449Well,therewerenospecialcircumstances.Thiswasaprofessionalconferencewheremanyforeigners

    0:01:02.469,0:01:08.129andArabpeoplewheremeetingbecauseitwasthefirsttimethatamajor

    0:01:08.149,0:01:10.970researchprojecthadbeenundertakeninSaudiArabia

    0:01:10.990,0:01:16.480andtheuniversityofJeddah,thatmeansKingAbdulazizuniversityactuallyconductedthisconference

    0:01:16.500,0:01:23.339becausemanyofthelecturersandseniorstudentsofthatuniversityhadactuallygraduatedfrom

    0:01:23.359,0:01:28.730BritainorthewesternEuropeancountriesandthereforewantedtoshowofftheir

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    results

    0:01:29.370,0:01:34.550SowasitspecificallyaconferenceabouttheQuranandreligion?

    0:01:34.570,0:01:38.350Orwasitaconferenceaboutsomethingelse?

    0:01:38.370,0:01:43.710Ithadnothingwhatsoevertodowithreligion,itwaspurelyaprofessionalconferenceongeology

    0:01:43.730,0:01:50.950NotasinglewordwastalkedaboutreligionortheQuranoranything!

    0:01:50.970,0:01:55.900Whatwerethecircumstanceswhichledyoutobeingpresentedwithreligioustext

    0:01:55.920,0:01:59.570andthenbeingaskedtocommentonit?

    0:01:59.590,0:02:00.750Well...

    0:02:00.770,0:02:08.340duringtheconferencetherewasandinterviewerinSaudiTVorganisedbythethenvicepresident

    0:02:08.360,0:02:10.649ofthatparticularuniversity

    0:02:10.669,0:02:13.660andtherewereaboutfiveorsix,

    0:02:13.680,0:02:16.740Ican'tremembersowell,professorsfromvarious

    0:02:16.760,0:02:20.329EuropeanandnorthAmericanuniversities

    0:02:20.349,0:02:23.490thatattendedthisTVinterview

    0:02:23.510,0:02:25.789anditwasthereforthefirsttimethat

    0:02:25.809,0:02:29.259wewereconfrontedwiththesequestions

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    "TowhatextenttheQuranwascompatiblewithpresentdaythinkinginEarthsciences?"

    0:02:37.279,0:02:45.399YourcommentswerelaterusedtosuggestthatyouthoughttheQurancontainedinformationwhichcouldnothavebeenknownbyhumansatthetime

    0:02:45.419,0:02:47.089withoutdivinerevelation

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    0:02:47.109,0:02:51.509Doyouthinkthatthisaccuratelyreflectsyouropinionatthetime?

    0:02:51.529,0:02:55.679Wellthatwasnotatallthepurposeandthediscussionthatwehad,

    0:02:55.699,0:02:56.769thediscussionwas...

    0:02:56.789,0:03:01.709theywerereadinguscertainversesfromtheQuranandtheythentheywouldsay

    0:03:01.729,0:03:03.880"Isthiscompatiblewithmoderndayscientificknowledge?"

    0:03:03.900,0:03:09.020Insomecaseswesaidyes,becausealways(there)isinalmosteveryreligionisalwayssomething

    0:03:09.040,0:03:12.969thatiscompatibleandinothercaseswesaid"No"

    0:03:12.989,0:03:18.869Sotherewasneverthequestionwhethertherewasanydivinecircumstancesoran

    ythinginthisinterview0:03:18.889,0:03:22.980Didyouevertrytohavethesevideosremovedfromtheweb?

    0:03:23.000,0:03:25.469No

    0:03:25.489,0:03:29.439ActuallythereissomethingthatI'vediscoveredmorerecently

    0:03:29.459,0:03:31.799someonegavemeaQuranasagift,

    0:03:31.819,0:03:38.129andasIturntothebackoftheQuranyouareactuallyinmyQuran!

    0:03:38.149,0:03:43.079Ididn'tknowifyouknewthat,butyou'reinaholybook!

    0:03:43.099,0:03:47.550Ihaveseenthis!Ialsohaveacopyofthisathome.

    0:03:47.570,0:03:51.359Ireaditmanymanymanyyearsagobutithasnothingtodowiththatparticularmeeting.

    0:03:51.379,0:03:55.569Haveyoulookedintothesubjectanyfurthersincethisevent?

    0:03:55.589,0:03:55.980No!

    0:03:56.000,0:03:59.239andhasyouropinionchangedsincetheevent?

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    0:03:59.259,0:04:04.639Well,yousee,thisconferencewasIthinkin'79andnothinghappenedand...

    0:04:04.659,0:04:09.680Youknow,thiswholethingwiththeInternetactuallyonlycameupaboutmaybefouryearsagoorsomething?

    0:04:09.700,0:04:10.980Ican'tevenremember!

    0:04:11.000,0:04:14.380andthensomebodysentmeamessageontheInternet

    0:04:14.400,0:04:18.769andIrepliedandsaid"OhIamverysurprisedbutthisisnothowitwas"andsoon

    0:04:18.789,0:04:20.780andthencontinuouslymoremessagescame

    0:04:20.800,0:04:24.929andthenItalkedtopeopleinmydepartment,wehaveageographydepartment

    0:04:24.949,0:04:29.140

    wheretherearetwopeoplewhoarereallyspeakingArabicandtheyareArabists,0:04:29.160,0:04:32.780asasyouwouldcallthem,andtheyreallyknowtheArabworldextremelywell

    0:04:32.800,0:04:34.230andItoldthemaboutthisandtheysaid

    0:04:34.250,0:04:42.880"Look,thereisnothingyoucando,youjusthavetolivewiththis,leaveitalonebecausewecan'tadviseyoutodoanything.Itwillnothelp!"

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    FinallymayIask,didyoubecomeaMuslimsasaresultofthisevent?

    0:04:49.500,0:04:52.980NoI'veneverbeenaMuslimbeforeandI'veneverbeenaMuslimafterwards!

    0:04:53.000,0:04:54.480[Bothlaugh]

    0:04:54.500,0:04:58.480Andfinally,towrapup...couldyouconfirm...

    0:04:58.500,0:05:04.380Aretheopinionsthatyou'vestatedinthisvideointerviewyourown?

    0:05:04.400,0:05:05.480Thisonethatwearetalkingaboutright?

    0:05:05.500,0:05:07.180Yesthatwearehavingrightatthismoment!

    0:05:07.200,0:05:09.680Sure,thisismyownopinion!

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    0:05:09.700,0:05:14.680AndhaveIofferedyouanyrewardforthis?Financialorotherwise?

    0:05:14.700,0:05:15.580[Laughing]No,notyet!

    0:05:15.600,0:05:16.880[BothlaughatAlfred'sfunnyjoke]

    0:05:16.900,0:05:18.480Iwon'tbeofferingyouanythingeither!

    0:05:18.500,0:05:20.480[BothlaughatTheRationalizer'sequallyfunnyjoke]

    0:05:20.500,0:05:24.880Okay,wellthankyouverymuchAlfredforagreeingtodothisinterview

    0:05:24.900,0:05:29.380Iwilltrytomakesureasmanypeoplemirrorthisvideoaspossible

    0:05:29.400,0:05:29.680Sure!

    0:05:29.700,0:05:37.705Thetimenowis18:30and39seconds...now