am i a hindu?. british parliament mixed message there is a misconception that the krishna...
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Am I a Hindu?
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British Parliament
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Mixed Message
There is a misconception that the Krishna consciousness movement represents the Hindu religion
We are spreading Hindu culture throughout the whole world
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Institutional ConfusionWe are Confusing Others
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Confusion leads to?
Internal ConflictOur own worst enemyOur own bad PRLoose credibility
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Institutional Anartha: Indecisive= Disempowerment
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Wasting Time & Energy
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British PM Tony Blair
“The British public will forgive you for making a wrong decision, but they will not forgive you for not making a decision”
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Decision
Resolve and resolute
determination
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Meeting the Admiralty
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ISKCON Educational Services
25,000 school children benefit from ISKCON Educational Services
Government funded schools
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Gathering support at the highest levels
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The Prime Minister
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The Queen
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380 Politicians and VIPs attend Janmashtami
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Gathering support at the highest levels
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Mixed messages…?
There is a misconception that the Krishna consciousness movement representsthe Hindu religion
- Srila Prabhupada
We are spreading Hindu culture throughout the whole world
- Srila Prabhupada
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In referring to the absolute unchangeable nature of God, the soul and the process of devotion service
“Don't think that Krsna, as it is stated in your English dictionary, "Krsna is a Hindu God." He's not Hindu, He's not Muslim, or He's not Christian.He's God. God is neither Hindu nor Muslim nor Christian. It is bodily designations, "I am Hindu, you are Christian.”
We are not Hindus
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When the term Hindu is used pertaining to those of Hindustani or Indian origin
“And actually, till now in our society there is not a single other Hindu than me. (laughter) Is that not? Is there any Hindu?”
We are not Hindus
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We are not Hindus
When the term Hindu may limit the interest and participation in Krishna Consciousness to the Hindu community
" When you say we are not Hindu that we are not restricted with the Hindu community. That is the meaning”
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We are not Hindus
When we define ourselves according to our own language, traditions and scriptures.
“Actually, "Hindu," there is no such word as "Hindu" religion. We don't find in the Vedic scripture. Hindu religion... This "Hindu" word is given by the Muhammadans”
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We are not Hindus
When the word Hindu is used referring to a singular religion wherein there is a hodgepodge of beliefs, superstitions, multiple Supreme Gods, and which concludes in Impersonalism
These Aurobindos or Vivekanandas and Gandhis, they have spoiled Hindu culture. Vedic culture they have spoiled. Hodgepodge writing, hodgepodge speaking, dry speaking, speculation-choked up the progress of Vedic civilization”
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We are Hindus
When the term is used in a general sense referring to those who follow the Vedas and the Varnasrama system, the cultured society of India
Therefore in our Hindu society there is garbhadhana-samskara, so that everyone knows that "This man is this man's father." That is garbhadhana-samskara. And especially in brahmin family, if there is no garbhadhana-samskara, immediately he becomes a sudra, because cannot give real identity of the father.
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We are Hindus
When scholars and Government use the term Hindu in referring to bonafide Indian faith traditions
The personalist school, philosophers, they are divided into four: Ramanuja-sampradaya—that means followers of Äcarya Ramanuja; Madhvacarya-sampradaya, or the followers of Madhvacarya; Nimbarka-sampradaya, followers of Nimbarka acarya; and Visnu Svami-sampradaya. They, their conclusion is the same. Although they are four in number, their conclusion is the same. And another sect is Shankarite sampradäya. So all these four, I mean, five different sections of the Hindus, they accept Sri Krishna as the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
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We are Hindus
Presenting our case to governments, courts and out legal necessity:
“The government...That this is not a religion. The swami knows some mind-controlling power and he's brainwashing. In this way, there is charge. So because America has got freedom of religion, so if they accept my movement as Hindu religion, they cannot do anything.”
"Represent our case to the Queen that Hindus are being harassed."
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We are not: We are:
Nature of the Absolute
Ethnic relevance Limits our audience
and membership In our own language Pluralism
(Hodgepodge)
Culturally Academically Officially- Legally
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Letter to disciple Janamajaya:
"Regarding your questions: Hindu means the culture of the Indians……… But the culture of the Indians or the Hindus is Vedic and beginning with the four varnas and four asramas. So these four varnas and four asramas are meant for really civilized human race. *Therefore the conclusion is actually when a human being is civilized in the true sense of the term he follows the system of varna and asrama and then he can be called a "Hindu.'' Our Krsna Consciousness Movement is preaching these four varnas and four asramas*, *so naturally it has got some relationship with the Hindus. So Hindus can be understood from the cultural point of view, not religious point of view."
Reconciled…
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Once again…
So Hindu can be understood:
cultural point of view
not religious (spiritual) point of view
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ISKCON Communications statement
ISKCON belongs to the Gaudiya Vaisnava sampradaya (denomination or tradition), a monotheistic tradition within Vedic or Hindu culture. Hindu culture is vast, and the term encompasses numerous theologies, philosophies, religious traditions and spiritual cultures. Thus, dialogue with Hindu traditions has been difficult for many seeking such dialogue. There are no official representatives of Hinduism, as the term Hinduism does not imply a single spiritual tradition. This statement therefore is representative of Hindu culture and religion as ISKCON, as a Vedantic, monotheistic Vaisnava tradition.
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Follow Srila Prabhupada
When appropriated:
Emphasise the onenessArticulate the difference
Don’t just say “we are not Hindus”.