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RIRS :

Endoscopes &

LASER BERN-2015

olivier.traxer@aphp.fr

steeve.doizi@aphp.fr

Olivier TRAXER

Steeve DOIZI

DISCLOSURE

2015 Consultant for

COLOPLAST

ROCAMED

OLYMPUS

BOSTON Sc /AMS

Ureteral Length :

30 cms

Intra-mural Part : 13-

14 mm

Ureter-Bladder Angle

: 90 to 135°

Ureteral Diameter :

10 Fr

ANATOMY

ANATOMY

The Ureter is not straight

Flexible URS

FIBER OPTIC DIGITAL

URF-

V2 Olympus

Less than 9 Fr

F-URS & UAS : OVALE / ROUND

French or Ch depends of the circumference not of the diameter !!!

URF-V2 &

FlexXC : 8,5 Fr

UAS : The BEST SIZE ?

12/14 F better than 10/12 F ???

10/12 12/14

As small as possible : 10/12 Fr !

URETERAL ACCESS

F-URS : NEW GENERATION

Fibre Optic Digital

So what do we need now ?

A small Digital F-URS !!! < 9 Fr

URF V2 Flex-XC

FURS MANIPULATION

Pendular Mode Fixed Mode

ORIENTATION

Digital-URS is not a pendular system :

« I-Phone technology ! »

DIGITAL CAMERA OR FIXED CAMERA ?!

Bubbles always indicate Anterior calices, at

12h00 !!!

12h00 !

Mendez-Torres et al. Urol Clinic N Am 2004

LASER INCISION

FURS: Optical System

Optical

System

LASER FIBER – Angle of View

THM : When you see the Fiber,

You are safe for your scope !

Deflection

Up / Down

ENDOSCOPES

New vs old generation : are more rigid

« The semi-Flexible URS » !

FURS : the new generation

FURS & TIP Flexibility !

Fiber Optic are superior to Digital

!

40 ml/min

Working Channel

3,6 Ch

FURS : Irrigation

Olympu

sURF-

P5

Wolf

Viper

ACMI

DUR-D K Storz

FlexXC

Olympu

s URF-V

Wolf

Cobra

K Storz

FlexX2

9.00 pm 9.00 pm 2 pm 12 & 2 9.00 pm 3.00 pm 6 pm

FURS: Working Channel

FLEXIBLE URS / SINGLE USE

POLYSCOPE - Polydiagnos

• ED: 8.5Fr / 1 Working Ch: 3.6 Fr

• New ED : 6 Fr !?

FLEXIBLE URS / SINGLE USE

SemiFlex by Maxiflex

• FDA for 15 uses ED: 8.5Fr / Working Ch: 3.6 Fr

SINGLE USE F-URS

2011 FLEXOR VIEW – COOK Medical

- Size 15 Fr !!!

- Manipulation ?

- Deflection: Down 180° !

- Optic : Fibers !

- WC : 9 Fr !!!

- Instruments ?

- Irrigation ?

- Cost ?

- Clinical Evaluation ?

SINGLE USE F-URS

2015 LithoVue Boston Scientific

FURS & NBI Technology

FLEXIBLE URS

SPIEs Storz Professional Image Enhancement System

FIBER OPTIC OR DIGITAL ?

Fiber Optic Digital

+

15 to 30 Watts........... 120 W

Holmium-YAG Laser

15 to 30 Watts

Laser means Light ! Infra Red 2100 nm

Holmium-YAG Laser

Holmium-YAG Laser

3 s

eco

nd

s at

5 H

z

Villa et al EndoUrol

2015

Holmium-YAG Laser

Energy

PULSED LASER (Power = Energy x Frequency)

Time

Watt = Joule x Hertz

Holmium-YAG Laser

PULSED LASER

Holmium-YAG Laser

Power = Energy x Frequency

Watt = Joule x Hertz

BUT…….. !!!

Holmium-YAG Laser

Holmium-YAG Laser

Energy

PULSE DURATION (μsec) : SHORT or LONG

Time

Holmium-YAG Laser

Energy

PULSE DURATION (μsec) : SHORT or LONG

Time

Holmium-YAG Laser

3 PARAMETERS : ??? combinations

- Energy

- Frequency

- Pulse Duration

?

?

?

Holmium-YAG Laser

3 PARAMETERS… #1

Pulse Duration

(μsec) Energy (Joule)

Frequency

(Hertz)

Holmium-YAG Laser

Pulse Duration

(μsec) Energy (Joule)

3 PARAMETERS… #2

Frequency

(Hertz)

Holmium-YAG Laser

Pulse Duration

(μsec) Energy (Joule)

Frequency

(Hertz)

3 PARAMETERS… #3

Holmium-YAG Laser

Kronenberg & Traxer BJU 2014

Holmium-YAG Laser

Kronenberg & Traxer BJU 2014

!!!!

Holmium-YAG Laser

< 273 μ

15 ml/min

THM: “ Pour la même Efficacité, Plus de Flexibilité,

Plus d’Irrigation et Moins de Rétropulsion !

Holmium-YAG Laser

STRIPPED UNSTRIPPED

Holmium-YAG Laser

STRIPPED UNSTRIPPED

Holmium-YAG Laser

Kronenberg & Traxer JUrol 2014

!!!!

Holmium-YAG Laser

LIMITEE si

-Basse Energie

-Calcul Tendre

-Durée

d’Impulsion

Longue

AUGMENTEE si

-Haute Energie

-Calcul Dur

-Durée d’Impulsion

Courte

Holmium-YAG Laser

Cut the Fiber’s Tip MORE Often if :

- High Energy

- Short Pulse Duration

- Hard Stone

Take HM: Cut 1 cm every 8-10 000 J !

Holmium-YAG Laser

Fragments Low Frequency : 4-5 Hz &

High Energy : 1-2 J

Short Pulse : 200

Power : 4-10 W

High Frequency: 15-20Hz

Low Energy : 0,3-0,5 J

Long Pulse : 800

Power : 4,5-10 W

DUST-Vaporizat°

Kronenberg & Traxer

WJUrol 2013

FRAGMENTATION

Kidney stone

from the

surface to the

center

SOMANI, AL-QAHTANI, GIL DE MEDINA, TRAXER. Urology 2013

Ureteral stone

from the

Center to the

Surface

FRAGMENTATION

THM : Don’t Touch & Move all the time !!!

DUSTING : The trick !

FRAGMENTATION

SPD & Energy 1 to 1,5 J & Frequency : 10 to 15!!!

POP CORN Technique : « The jumping stone » !

FRAGMENTATION

Who knows the exact definition of

Fragments and/or Dust ?!

< 2mm ?

FRAGMENTATION

1 cm in 40 min

SOMANI, AL-QAHTANI, GIL DE MEDINA, TRAXER. Urology 2013

Skills Vision Irrigat° Laser Composition Size/Volume

FRAGMENTATION

64!

8! 1 cm to 5 mm :

2 cm to 5 mm :

FRAGMENTATION

FRAGMENTATION

CaOx MonoHydrate

CaOx DiHydrate

Uric Acid

Cystine

Struvite

FRAGMENTATION

Calcium Oxalate MonoHydrate surface

section

SPD

1,5 J

5Hz

Hypercalciuria (250 to 300mg/d)!

Calcium Oxalate DiHydrate

Small octahedral crystals

LPD

0,3 J

20Hz

Extraction/Fragmentation

< 2.2Fr

Pasqui & Traxer Eur Urol 2003

STONE ABLATION

LOWER POLE STONE

Schuster, 2002, Kourambas 2000, EAU Guidelines 2015

LOWER POLE STONE

Courtesy M. Pearle

LOWER POLE STONE

Results

Mean F

ragm

en

tation V

olu

me

(mm

3)

p =

0.72

THM

- Relocalization if possible

- Single use laser fiber

- Small < 270 microns

- Low Energy < 1J

- Fragmentation and

relocalization

LOWER POLE STONE

Results

Mean F

ragm

en

tation V

olu

me

(mm

3)

p =

0.72

NO ! YES !

LASER Fiber Tip : Normal vs BallTip

LOWER POLE STONE

40 Hz x 0.2 J 40 Hz x 0.4 J 40 Hz x 0.6 J 40 Hz x 0.8 J

New fiber

After 1

minute

After 2

minutes

After 3

minutes

After 4

minutes

OUI !

LOWER POLE STONE

DRAINAGE

STONE BLOCKED WITH BASKET

Laser Fiber < 273 μ and Basket < 2 Fr

LASER & INSTRUMENTS

Laser Fiber < 273 μ and Basket < 2 Fr

LASER & INSTRUMENTS

UNCRUSTED JJ

LASER & INSTRUMENTS

Leakage test

LASER & ENDOSCOPES

• Laser Ablation : 10 Watts

- 10 Hz

- 1 J

- Long Pulse Duration

UTUC

THM : Don’t

Touch it !!!

THANK YOU

FOR YOUR

ATTENTION

olivier.traxer@aphp.fr

steeve.doizi@aphp.fr

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