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Table of Contents - "S_650_699.doc"_
S-650. from Ed Halerewicz regarding Art Bell's C2C
S-651. from Ed Halerewicz regarding "Berry's Phase"
S-652. from Ed Halerewicz critiquing Paul Kirsch's UNITEL notes
S-653. from Ed Halerewicz regarding an anti-matter spaceship
S-654. from Ed Halerewicz regarding "High-Frequency Gravitational Waves"
S-655. from Paul Devine regarding Novel and Torbitt
S-656. from Mike D'Agostino regarding propulsion-less flight
S-657. from Mike D'Agostino regarding Nukes, UFOs, and Consciousness
S-658. from Mike D'Agostino regarding psychic phenomena and UFOs
S-659. from Ed Halerewicz regarding Bob Lazar
S-660. from Ed Halerewicz regarding interdimensional UFOs
S-661. from Mike D'Agostino regarding ET species
S-662. from Paul Devine regarding the "Torbitt Memorandum"
S-663. from Paul Devine regarding 1963 Dallas and 1947 Maury Island
S-664. from Paul Devine regarding a Novel file (introduction)
S-665. from Paul Devine regarding death threats to Bob Lazar
S-666. from Paul Devine regarding Shag Habor, Canada UFO incident
S-667. from Paul Devine regarding lack-of-response from physicists
S-668. from Paul Devine regarding Paul Bennewitz
S-669. from Paul Devine regarding Mind-Control
S-670. from Ed Halerewicz regarding Bob Lazar's claims
S-671. from Ed Halerewicz regarding Lazar and Corso
S-672. from Paul Devine regarding physics "mainstreamers"
S-673. from Paul Devine regarding Consciousness
S-674. from Ed Halerewicz regarding basic Quantum physics
S-675. from Ed Halerewicz regarding basic Relativity
S-676. from Paul Devine regarding writing noted scientists
S-677. from Paul Devine regarding the latest from Dr. Steven Greer
S-678. from Mike D'Agostino regarding induction fields
S-679. from Mike D'Agostino regarding Anti-Gravity
S-680. from Ed Halerewicz regarding spinning nuclei and cold fusion
S-681. from Paul Devine regarding reply from George Knapp concerning Bob Lazar
S-682. from Paul Devine regarding Field Unification Theory
S-683. from Ed Halerewicz regarding UNITEL's quantum laser model
S-684. from Ed Halerewicz regarding rotating gravitational fields
S-685. from Paul Devine regarding rotating gravitational fields
S-686. from Ed Halerewicz regarding Anti-Gravity concepts
S-687. from Ed Halerewicz regarding "Gravity Rand, Inc." [Part 1 of 2]
S-688. from Ed Halerewicz regarding "Gravity Rand, Inc." [Part 2 of 2]
S-689. from Mike D'Agostino regarding the Biefeld-Brown effect
S-690. from Mike D'Agostino regarding Unidentified Submerged Objects
S-691. from Mike D'Agostino regarding Schauberger, Tesla, Lakhovsky, and Reich
S-692. from Ed Halerewicz regarding Schauberger, Tesla, Lakhovsky, and Reich
S-693. from Paul Define regarding Tensor calculus concepts
S-694. from Dr. Matti Pitkanen regarding UNITEL's proposals
S-695. from Dr. Matti Pitkanen regarding remote-viewing "engineering"
S-696. from Dr. Matti Pitkanen regarding plasma lifeforms
S-697. from Jonathan Beggs regarding Reich and Tesla
S-698. from Dr. Matti Pitkanen regarding a Collective Conciousness
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S-699. from Paul Devine regarding E-115, Robert Collins, Walter Rodd Zechel
S-650. from Ed Halerewicz regarding Art Bell's C2C
From: "Edward Halerewicz, Jr." <halgravity@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, March 23, 2006 2:22 pm
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Subject: Re: so Ed listens to C2C ...!
--- kram@stealthskater.com wrote:
> (1) Perhaps electron energy levels were mentioned somewhere in the chemistry classes but
they just didn't stick. I'm sure they were mentioned in that sophomore "Modern Physics"
class or else I couldn't have calculated what light frequencies would be absorbed the
hydrogen gas. But I seem to recall they were multiples of something rather than "xyz"
electron-volts as you often state.
>
> But the point is that such details have long been forgotten. Even the numerical techniques
that I became good at to solve nonlinear and partial diff. eq. have been lost over time. For
better-or-worse, I became a corporate mainframe programmer.
>
> (2) I think it was I who made Paul Kirsch aware of you. I probably forwarded him a
couple of your emails. I once asked him if he had ever gotten in touch with you. My "read"
from his answer that he was somewhat "scared" to as he was too embarrassed about his lack
of physics expertise (i.e., not a Michael Miller). I told him if I can do it (i.e., contact you),
then ANYBODY can!
>
> At one time, Paul was searching for a co-editor of the Interdimemnsinal Journal (that had
his interview with Miller). He asked me if I wanted to help do it. But all I could offer was
editing help. And he is as good (or better) a writer than I am. You might inquire as to the
status of that effort. He sent me a complimentary copy when I sent him a backup CD of my
site. It looked pretty nice. Is your JoATP still active?
> (3) ... … …
>> 2 Tornadoes went through my town the other week and even knocked out a few
radio stations, due to the networks sharing airwaves I found which of my local
stations broadcast Coast-to-Coast (C2C). Anyway, I guess George does the weekday
shows and Art Bell does the weekend ones. Art basically said for the next few weeks,
he'll be on vacation. But he was hinting during his absence they were going to re-air
his interview with Col. Corso. So you might want to listen for that.
>
> Well knock me down! I didn't know you listened to such stuff.
>
>> A guest he had on the other night was none other than Nick Pope. He mentioned
that he had some details about the landed craft at Rhendlishm (sp?) at his site --
nickpope.net I believe it was said and thought it was perhaps something you would be
interested in knowing.
>
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> That incident is typically called the "British Roswell". One sighting was at the
Woodbridge/Bentwaters joint British-USAF base. And the other was in the bordering
Rendlesham forest. I forget which came first. But this is where 2 dissimilar shapes
combined into a completely new one in a soundless explosion. I have the Discovery Channel
footage archived at http://www.stealthskater.com/Videos.htm - Woodbridge and the story
at http://www.stealthskater.com/UFO.htm#Woodbridge .
Perhaps the reason things are fresh in my mind is that aside from my calculus and Univ. Phys.
classes, I have been largely self-taught. I wrote a paper on General Relativity once for extra credit. And
my physics professor was dumbfounded and frankly told me that I "too smart" for the class he was
teaching.
Oh! so Paul was responsible for that Miller article I pulled off your site when doing some research
on Unitel? JoATP is, frankly, not my site. It is run by Dr. Paul Hoiland. Neither I nor any of my
colleagues have been able to contact him. So until he shows up, the Journal is more-or-less dead. One
of my colleagues found that a "Paul Hoiland" recently past away in TX. I would hate to think they are
the same people. But after all this time, it might be a possibility.
C2C … Well as I said, I caught it because of a storm outage. Most of the time I was just
hysterically laughing. I've stopped listening all ready (I might listen in the future if I hear of guest such
as Michio Kaku, but that will be about it). The so-called "science adviser" -- every time he made a
claim, it was so far off that I busted up laughing hearing. What he had to say on subjects, he didn't
really understand. The only decent science was the stuff on global warming. But then they interviewed
a real climate scientist for that. I also found one piece bemusing when the only person who really
understood the some science was a science-fiction writer blasting some nutcase on how fusion actually
works.
-- Edward Halerewicz, Jr.
Truss Technician/Independent Researcher
http://da_theoretical1.tripod.com/index.htm
S-651. from Ed Halerewicz regarding "Berry's Phase"
From: "Edward Halerewicz, Jr." <halgravity@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Thu, March 23, 2006 3:11 pm
Subject: Berry's Phase
Hello Mark,
I accidentally deleted your message with Paul Kirsch's e-mail. I have typed out a response to the
nature of Berry's phase that you can pass onto him:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Greetings Paul,
Mark McWilliams has passed along to me that wish to understand what exactly "Berry’s phase" is in
plain English. In words, it’s fairly simple it is just a function [of something like cos(t)±sin(t)] which
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causes a geometric defect in where a vector would otherwise point without geometric perturbations.
There is a rather nice description although it may seem somewhat technical here:
http://www.mi.infm.it/manini/berryphase.html
The most famous example in Quantum Mechanics is, of course, the Ahronov-Bohm Effect in which
non local magnetic effects can alter the properties of local quantum effects. A nice write-up on that is
here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aharonov-Bohm_effect
Since popular newsmagazines such as Scientific American often discuss or rather illustrate aspects of
Relativity theory, it also could be summed up in another manner. If you move in flat space-time
(Special Relativity), a vectors phase (angle) does not change as there is no geometry to modify such
motion. However, when space-time is curved (as with General Relativity), vector motion can become
deflected as seen by an observer in flat space-time. So more-or-less, Berry’s phase is just the effect of
geometry (or rather symmetry) has on the kinematics of moving bodies.
-- Edward Halerewicz, Jr.
Truss Technician/Independent Researcher
http://da_theoretical1.tripod.com/index.htm
S-652. from Ed Halerewicz critiquing Paul Kirsch's UNITEL notes
From: "Edward Halerewicz, Jr." <halgravity@yahoo.com>
To: "Paul Kirsch" <kirsch@lifesci.ucsb.edu> (more)
Date: Thu, March 30, 2006 4:06 pm
Subject: Re: draft for feedback
--- Paul Kirsch <kirsch@lifesci.ucsb.edu> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> <Click> on the URL below or cut and paste to your browser. It is about 12 megs and 180
slides. {URL not listed here to accommodate the following request}. As mentioned, this is
not to be posted to the Web as I hope to sell as book.
>
> I have basically taken the UNITEL story and tried to simplify it as much as I could for a
general audience and put it in a narrative form (with my own little opinions). I am still
revising the narrative, but need to take a pause and step back from it. I have shown an earlier
version to the guys at UNITEL and they said it was good. But I didn't get some things quite
right.
>
> Ed and Mark --
> I have no where near the stature of either of you in terms of physics background. But I am
learning. I am interested in constructive criticism.
>
> I think the main thing is to prove there is enough energy to curve space with the energy
system described and perhaps I haven't really done that. I'll have to look up more references.
Whatever …
>
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> In light and service,
> Paul
> -- Paul Kirsch
> Executive Assistant to Dr. Erkki Ruoslahti
> 1105 Life Sciences Building
> Department of Molecular, Cellular, and Developmental Biology
> University of California, Santa Barbara
> Santa Barbara, CA 93106
Hi Paul,
Well, I'll have to wait until I bring my laptop with me to campus so I can put that 12 meg file onto
my home computer. But I do have a few brief comments on my initial scan of the slides. First, it's
always wise to carry a dose of skepticism over just buying into the whole Macroscopic Quantum
Tunelling (MQT) hypothesis.
1) There is no such thing as a "magnetic charge". There are electric charges and magnetic fields. But no
"magnetic charges".
2) As far as nuclear physicists are concern, the Tokomak reactor is a bit of a joke. A table0top fusion
reactor had more success than that bloated project.
3) There is NO THEORY that explains what an electron should look like. The best theory on that
subject is Quantum Electrodynamics (QED). And even in that theory, it is still treated as point particle
largely due to the Klein-Gordon equation of relativistic quantum mechanics. There is zero experimental
evidence that gives even a guess to the electron's sizes. And there are about 3-or-4 different sizes it can
take in theory. So I don't buy the UNITEL hull as being built to look like an electron, though that is not
to say it couldn't have the same quantum properties in principle.
4) The Higgs Field is in NO WAY responsible for the "warping" of space-time. In fact, it could be
generally said that warping of the Higgs Field is responsible for the "generation" of mass.
5) (i) the equation "Ds^2" should be "ds^2" due to calculus notation. (ii) That equation is not complex
but rather simple as it represents the null path of a photon.
6) Planck's constant is not complex but is rather simply a product of an electrons angular momentum
around an atom's nucleus.
7) While many theorists feel very strongly that magnetic monopoles should exist, there is absolutely no
physical evidence for them at this time. Period!
-- Edward Halerewicz, Jr.
Truss Technician/Independent Researcher
http://da_theoretical1.tripod.com/index.htm
S-653. from Ed Halerewicz regarding an anti-matter spaceship
From: "Edward Halerewicz, Jr." <halgravity@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
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Date: Tue, April 18, 2006 10:02 am
Subject: Re: NASA.gov - New and Improved Antimatter Spaceship for Mars Missions
> Maybe UNITEL (and others) can use this positron-electron scheme in a small (Lazar-
like) on-board power generator to supply energy for their propulsion schemes.
> "Researchers Study Anti-Matter Concept" - 04.14/2006
> Same terrific power! Less annoying radiation!
>
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2006/antimatter_spaceship.htm
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Funny, but I sent a similar message to a friend of mine. FYI: We have positron creation technology
now and have had for quite some time. So it's not new. What Lazar spoke of were virtual anti-matter
atoms -- not positrons. The trick is to see if it can be used as an aid in propulsion.
On the Lazar note, I've put together some of Lazar's claims together to check the science on as you
suggested. In my spare time, I'll work off and on that and let you know when I'm done. One thing I
thought funny so far was that Paul Potter claimed something that Lazar actually said but the other way
around. So I'm not convinced by his line of reasoning.
-- Edward Halerewicz, Jr.
Truss Technician/Independent Researcher
http://da_theoretical1.tripod.com/index.htm
S-654. from Ed Halerewicz regarding "High-Frequency Gravitational Waves"
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:33:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Edward Halerewicz, Jr." <halgravity@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Subject: Re: more from Paul Potter ...
Hello Mark,
High-Frequency Gravity waves is just a "buzz term" that those people love to use but don't really
understand. Gravity comes in all frequencies just like electromagnetism does. So there is nothing really
special about one bandwidth as the science covers all bandwidths. The Tesla quote has some meaning
but is used out-of-context and could not thrust anymore than what the so-called "lifters" do.
Now the 3 Gigahertz frequency for supposed UFOs could be accurate as the Schwarzschild radius of
the Earth is roughly 8.89 cm [for Mark: as you know, that is about the same diameter Lazar claimed for
his so-called "gravity waveguide" and, as such, is the only bit about what he says about gravity could be
true.]. So the gravity standing wave of the Earth should in theory be about 3.36 gigahertz. Typically,
low gravitational frequencies are generated by massive bodies rotating slowly while high frequencies
would only be typically observed for things such as black hole collisions.
Also for Paul. The Tamajar ESA paper had an interesting tie into UNITEL in that the greatest
superconducting gravito-magnetic effect came from the Niobium material.
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-- Edward Halerewicz, Jr.
Truss Technician/Independent Researcher
http://da_theoretical1.tripod.com/index.htm
S-655. from Paul Devine regarding Novel and Torbitt
From: "paul devine" <grandfatherpaul@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Thu, April 27, 2006 9:13 pm
Subject: In case you've been wondering what happened to me ...
> kram@stealthskater.com wrote:
I routed you to this guy's UFO Propulsion site before. KeelyNet just posted one of his newer
articles at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ufophysics/microprop.htm
>
> You might want to checkout his pages listed at the bottom of the article for anything new.
Seems more is increasingly mentioned about high-frequency gravitational waves in all
quarters (not just Robert Baker). Must be something to these things that never have been
detected and strongly doubted. Sample excerpt:
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>> " ... ... ... ... For as Tesla once proved (see note 26), if a series of beams could be made to
concentrate on a localized area of the atmosphere and set up an oscillating resonance in that area
to a certain frequency (say to around 2-to-4 GHz where atmospheric air readily ionizes), then an
electrification of that ambient would result. And depending on how much electric tension is
developed there, it would react upon the craft as a variable thrust force.
>>
>> If an energy wave can deliver "at a distance" the required electric field, then propulsion is just
as simple as...reaching for an apple.
>>
>> Indeed, there is ample data to suggest that some UFO propulsion systems operate in the SHF
(3-30 GHz) frequency range. In France, physicists have found that the sonic shock wave ahead
of Mach 1+ aircraft can be nullified by the use of microwave ionization. In the United States, a
report from the USAF indicating that UFOs use a dual 3 GHz frequency electromagnetic power
wave (see note 27) as part of their propulsion system has led researchers to an intriguing and new
development in the understanding (and perhaps someday duplication) of UFO propulsion (see
the Propagated High Frequency Wave Propulsion page). ...
>> ... ... ..."
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>
> I need to compare his current site with what I have previously archived (at
http://www.stealthskater.com/UFO.htm#Potter) to see if there's anything new that should
be save.
Mark,
Well, what can I say? It's hard to know where to begin.
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I notice my last message to you was about a month ago. (It seems infinitely longer!) I said I wanted
to hold off on a detailed critique of your "MAJ"-document draft for your website until I had more time.
Well, that day -- when I have more time --- has still not arrived. This is the first chance I have had to
come up for air.
Basically, deadlines have been nipping at my heels for months past . They finally caught up to me.
And there are still more to come. I estimate the last deadlines -- that I know about at present --- will
keep me busy until the middle of next month at least.
After I have reached a stopping place with this pure research, it will still be necessary to collate all
the results. And I doubt I can collate this mass of material in two weeks. So I am presently thinking it
will be June before I can start sending to you the material I had in mind to send you a month ago. The
material, that I hope to be able to share with you, includes :
● material on "Branton" (that, at least, should be quickly and easily done!) ;
● material on the Torbitt Document, the Torbitt Memorandum ( or, Were Werner von Braun, and
NASA, involved in Dallas ?, et al. ) ;
● a critique in detail of your "MAJ" - first draft ;
● some new material for that MAJ-document from my source here in Madison ;
● a comment on the death-by-murder of Commander "Brook" (USN) from that document;
● material on Chrisman/Crisman/Chrismon/Crismon (Dallas,1963 ; Maury Island, 1947) ;
● material on Gordon Novel.
I will almost-certainly have to let these letters accumulate and then send them all at once as a group.
Already, there are some things you can do in order to help both of us :
The "Chrismon" (the Tacoma UFOlogist and radio personality, apparently) is described (by Torbitt)
as having been grown up by the year 1920, and as having been a Syrian. You know more about this
subject than I do. Does that sound right? Do you have any independent method of getting information
about the subject of the second 1947 Maury Island incident? Something does not sound right about that
description above.
Much of the time this past month has been spent pursuing information relevant to Gordon Novel.
Why Gordon Novel? Where did his name come from?
His name came up in your "Lazar_21.doc" document that you just recently sent me. That name set
off more than a few alarm bells and whistles. Novel has been accused of active involvement in Dallas.
And he also played a bit role in Watergate. (He was also involved in the Bay of Pigs.) A common
thread throughout his life appears to have been theft and mis-direction.
Now, here is what I am doing. I am trying to build a file on Novel. When finished, then I intend to
share it with you. My intention is that Bob Lazar should be offered a right of refusal concerning this
material. However, Lazar apparently has largely closed himself off from the outside world and from his
own past.
George Knapp may be the only person Lazar trusts. I think that you and Knapp should get to know
each other (if you don't know each other already). (And likewise for Lazar!) Therefore, I think it would
be a good idea to offer this material to Knapp first. (He was on C2C the other night as guest host, and I
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got his e-mail address). If Knapp already knows this material, then no harm is done. Knapp can offer
the material to Lazar. If Lazar refuses it, then still no harm is done for by that time, you and I and
Knapp will have it. And Lazar (if he does not already know about Novel) may change his mind later on.
And here is what you can do. Reach out to Knapp. Advertise your own WS. Ask Knapp what he
and Lazar collectively know about Gordon Novel. And tell him that unless you hear from him to the
contrary in a timely way, you will forward for Lazar -- through Knapp himself -- the material you expect
from me (when I am finally able to send it all to you). Clear? You may object and say, "Paul, send it to
him yourself!" But if I do that, then I will simply refer him straight back to you and to your website.
After all, it's on your WS that I found the document with Novel's name in it.
Besides, your website could use publicity with someone like a George Knapp. And you deserve it
because of all your hard work over these years. (And suppose that Lazar should take the initiative in
getting in touch with you, thanking you for the material!) [StealthSkater note: I thank Paul for the
kind words. But my real intent all along has been just to archive this material in a place where
people a lot smarter than me can figure out what it's all about. If websites never disappeared or
articles removed, then nobody would be reading this now because there wouldn't have been any
need to do all of this. Any true answers will be reward enough for me.]
Do not feel the need to wait to hear from me again before sharing with me the results of any
exchanges that may take place between yourself and either Knapp and/or Lazar. Or concerning
"Chrismon" (as "Torbitt" spells the name), either. It's just that I don't know when I will next be able to
write again to answer any such message you may send me. (There's always the possibility that Knapp
and Lazar already know everything that I could send them about Novel. In that case, Why bother? It
may be new to you, 'tho' ...)
In haste,
Paul.
S-656. from Mike D'Agostino regarding propulsion-less flight
From: "mangomike1@yahoo.com" <mangomike1@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Sat, May 6, 2006 2:50 pm
Subject: Thanks for keeping me in the loop
Hi Mark,
Thanks for keeping me "in the loop". I've been back in the States for a few months, running around
like a chicken with no head … busy, busy. Although productive, it feels good to relax for a week-or-
two, just to gather my thoughts.
Regarding what appears as anti-gravity effects. There are a variety of means of generating the
apparent effect: superconductive grav-shield; superconductive HFGW; Gertsenshtein effect; ELF-grav
shielding; Mach's principle; off-center rotors; gyroscopic-precession; variation of Mach's principle;
Lenz-law levitation; geomagnetic levitation; rotating magnetic field device; Hutchinson-effect; Poynting
vector propulsion; and of course, the Biefeld-Brown effect.
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The basic principles behind the Biefeld-Brown effect is commonly demonstrated in the construction
and operation of a simple device called the "Lifter", although very primitive still remains mysterious,
based on the standard model of societies mainstream physics.
When I say "primitive". I mean primitive in several regards. The poor coefficient of electrical
energy required to lift one once. The Lifter requires 15, 000 volts before upward motion is experienced.
Also the Lifter is typically unstable and limited in its flight control and navigation. Field manipulation
is fixed and impractical at best.
Today it is common for the electronics industry to utilize multiple layers with various forms of micro
stripping as a conductive wire or guide for electrons in motion. In the RF (radio-frequency)
communications/ESM/ECM/ECCM in the defense industry, it is common to also use micro-stripping
technology as a RF waveguide in creating various forms of polarization for RF propagation through
creative designs of antennas for various purposes.
Now if micro-stripping technology and Pi-based spiral arrangements on a multi-layer skin is used to
create and guide extremely high voltage with pulsed DC while turning on-and-off different micro-
stripped spirals, a more advanced form of the Biefeld-Brown effect -- which becomes a multiplexed
rotating and modulated electro-static field -- may be created. [StealthSkater note: Isn't this was
happened in the Philadelphia Experiment??]
If the field is pulsed at a frequency which is the resonate frequency of the craft itself, different forms
of field manipulation may be feasible. An induction field. The initial field may be a type of standing
field, symmetrical. Although to experience motion activating guide elements embedded within layers of
the skin of the craft with a positive charge, the field would become asymmetrical in the direction of
travel "In Theory". If the field is operated in a uni-directional mode, basic flight may be achieved
utilizing the "fly-by-wire" computer technology commonly used in high-performance aircraft at present.
One of the byproducts of this active field would be to shield the craft from the space it is
experiencing motion through. When active, the craft would actually never be in physical contact with
the surrounding air or space it is flying through. And protect the crew from harmful radiation when not
operating in the atmosphere of a planet.
Using super-conducting and super non-conducting material would be required for such a craft.
EG&G along with Boeing has some precision material which appear interesting. The actual beauty of
this craft would be the guides and elements used in shaping and manipulating the field itself would be
entirely embedded within the thin skin of the craft itself. If by accident the craft was dissected, most
wouldn't understand how such a craft could even fly unless they knew what they were looking for. Just
some food for thought, Mark.
One more thing I wanted to bring to your attention regarding the inverse gravity field propulsion.
When the craft previously described would land, turning the field off wouldn't be required. By
modulating the field frequency to increasingly higher frequencies, the field in essence decreases in the
space it physically occupies, basically shrinks, becomes enfolded within the center of the craft without
causing harm to the occupants of the craft due to the skin effect of high frequency, high voltage. To
activate the field for propulsion purposes and encapsulate the craft, decreasing the field frequency to a
resonate of the craft itself would be required. A singularity would exist within the containment area of
the craft when the field is enfolded within the center of the craft. And it is static and landed.
Mark, try not to become too distracted by all the dis-information floating around. Sometimes the
beauty of a concept is hiding in plain sight.
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Best Regards,
Mike
S-657. from Mike D'Agostino regarding Nukes, UFOs, and Consciousness
From: "mangomike1@yahoo.com" <mangomike1@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Fri, June 2, 2006 2:26 am
Subject: RE: Nukes, UFO's, Consciousness
Hello Mark,
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears you are trying to get a snap-shot of the "Big Picture".
Regarding the physical security components; ex- Intelligence and Special-Ops personnel -- and the
hiring practices of those companies and corporations which are engaged in R&D -- support Intel
collections and analysis. It is a common practice to hire ex-Spcl ops and former Intel personnel. This
process makes the screening and background checks much easier.
In other instances, the security personal have been sheep-dipped. They are, in fact, active military
personnel on assignment for a defined period of time. By hiring former special-ops and Intel personnel -
- in addition to making the screening and background checks easier -- it also provides a backdoor to
other elements within the community as alliances are many for many from the different
compartmentalized elements which makeup the community. To someone outside, it would appear
convoluted although it actually provide a means of checks and balances to those administering the
darker programs.
Mark, if you are looking for conspiracies around every corner, that's exactly what you will see!
Many who have approached the over-all field of ETs, their crafts and agenda with a critical eye will
always find their own versions of the so-called truth, blended with dis-information as well. This is how
the "game" is played. Many in the process of sorting out what may be fact from dis-information have
also been unwitting perpetrators of dis-information as well, unaware that they themselves act as carriers.
It has become common for many to become polarized in such a way many now think of any event
with the word "UFO" as being lumped together with "Big Foot", "Lockness" monsters, and "Ghost".
This has had the desired effect of desensitizing many to just ignore or treat the entire subject as a joke
with no aspects of truth. Even in cases involving credible multiple witnesses and trace evidence at the
landing site, many will turn a blind eye, subconsciously.
For others, their beliefs alone is all that is required and as a result, almost every moving light in the
night sky is seen as an UFO. Many who know those who take this stand just think of them as crazy or
nuts and leave it at that. Some have become lost within the infinite conspiracy theories and think one-
or-two Earth- or space-based groups controls and is responsible for many events or influences everyone
and everything.
Are the facts out there? Are there still unexplained effects which defy the standard model of our
present state of public Science? Is there other Life out there beyond planet Earth? And out of the
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mathematical possibilities of other life among the stars, are some species more advanced than us on
planet Earth? And could we have been visited by some of these more advanced species?
I believe the answer to these questions is Yes!
How one decides to think of, organize, and correlate this data is a matter of how one decides to think
and process the information. Data mining and processing comes in many forms.
Mark, there are very valid reasons we have secrets whether it be a person or a government. Are
there dis-information campaigns underway? Yes!
Like a good poker game, you wouldn't want everyone else at the table to see your hand, would you?
Propaganda and dis-information has been with our species shortly after intelligence and espionage itself.
Putting the conspiracy claims and hundreds of theories aside, sometimes it is necessary to return to the
basics.
Regarding the general UFO phenomena, previous studies by both the Military and Civilian
organizations have stated on many reports that typically 95% of reported sightings can and in many
cases have been explained. The remaining 5% perplexes many. Within this remaining 5% of
unexplained sightings is where careful analysis and modeling has been of use.
If we eliminate sightings involving only one or several untrained observers within close proximity of
each other with no landing/hovering trace evidence involved (residual static, ionized and none ionized
radiation, scorched/high tempeture soil/vegetation exposure, etc.) and look at the remaining unexplained
cases which do involve trace evidence and multiple trained observers situated 1000+ yards or miles
apart, it stills leaves a significant number for analysis purposes. Usually in the range of 2-1.5% remain.
Out of this percentage where multiple trained observers and landing or hovering sites where trace
evidence is present would form a modeling profile of interests.
Identifying the similar characteristics and correlating them together would strongly indicate an aero-
spatial craft, based on reported cases that utilize unconventional aerodynamic propulsion and operating
under intelligent direction and control does appear to be "real”. The major as well as the minor
militaries around the World have been aware of this for some time. These aero-spatial craft exhibit
aerodynamic performance characteristics which defy our present understanding of conventional
aerodynamics in general. They have also been identified by most military organizations globally as
potential shortcomings and deficiencies in their (i.e., the militaries') present state of tactical aircraft.
For obvious reasons, there is a great interests by major militaries in understanding the technology;
power plant, navigation, communications, defensive, offensive capabilities along with the propulsion
systems behind such aero-spatial vehicles.
Out of the numerous sightings which fit within the modeling profile stated above, there appears to be
a wide variety of different configured aero-spatial vehicles. This would indicate different vehicles are
designed to provide different functions along with the strong possibility that there are probably
numerous advanced species performing reconnaissance.
In addition, on many occasions military as well as civilian ATC (air traffic controllers) have either
reported a positive radar contact or no contact at all during reported sightings, which meet the modeling
profile above. This has raised great concern among many.
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Based on this common sense, reasonable and logical approach described above through examining
each and every case, on a case-by-case basis, those which meet the profile described above -- be it small
-- would strongly imply this aerial phenomena called "UFOs" (as in Unknown Flying Objects) is valid
and real.
Mark, I know it is easy to get lost in the hundreds of theories and conspiracies flying around. But
like data mining, it all depends on what you’re looking for and how to extrapolate the data so it holds
high confidence and validity. There are actually many well-documented cases involving multiple
military personnel and trace evidence as well.
Got to run for now. But I will follow-up as time permits.
Best Regards
Mike
S-658. from Mike D'Agostino regarding psychic phenomena and UFOs
From: "mangomike1@yahoo.com" <mangomike1@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Sun, June 4, 2006 11:16 pm
Subject: Nukes, UFO's, consciousness
Hi Mark,
Regarding psychic phenomena, remote-viewing, etc., it would appear what was once considered
“Inside” programs by the U.S. Government have now been "farmed out", from what one of my sources
tell me. This source wishes to remain unidentified for obvious reasons.
The question has always been is there some real validity to these types of programs? The answer
that I have received from various sources still active within the community is "Yes". But within margins
of degrees. What I have been told is when the information received from these programs is coupled
with other more conventional sources of information, it can actually enhance and better define
intelligence collected by other sources for a particular set collection objective. In many instances where
the many pieces of collected data do not always correlate, the information from a remote-viewing
program can -- and has -- filled in the missing gaps. Back to the question again, is there really some
validity to the remote viewing, psy-programs, the answer appears to be "Yes" … but always within
certain defined limits.
What was explained to me is that the reason it is difficult at best -- or impossible -- to get results in
the 100% arena is based in Quantum Physics and the “Many Worlds” alternate reality concepts. When
remote-viewers -- or even these very gifted psychics who usually assist police and sheriffs investigators
in murder investigations -- are perceiving locations, people, and events, they are perceiving from and
through a medium which is in essence every "where" and every "when" --spatially and in time.
[StealthSkater note: Hawking's "MultiVerse" -- the sum of all possible histories/timelines]
So what may be accurate and valid information in another alternate reality system can sometimes be
mistakenly interpreted as in this reality system. I realize this must sound confusing. But as the concept
goes, there are an undefined and growing number of reality systems. Some systems would appear
almost identical to what we call our system of reality. Other systems would appear so different -- almost
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alien in some respects. This is the primary reason even the most successful psychics would find it
impossible to be 100% accurate each and every time they applied their psychic abilities. In addition, the
concept would indicate even if an event didn’t happen here in our reality system, it did occur in some of
these other alternate reality systems. [StealthSkater note: the challenge would be for a remote-
viewer to focus only on our present reality and ignore the other quantum-viable realities.]
The former Princeton Engineering Anomalous Research (PEAR ) research group -- along with
several other universities conducting research into Consciousness research -- have demonstrated that
focused, directed-thought intent can and has effected random number generators -- random events
generators at a distance with no physical contact to the subject. This has been demonstrated in dozens
(if not hundreds) of experiments. Although what many people with a very critical eye will quickly point
out is the effect at best is usually very subtle. This effect does demonstrate something very important.
Consciousness is an “Active Field” and interacts with our environment in a manner, which pervades our
common sense and logic. In the field of Quantum Mechanics, it just confirms what many already know:
the observer of a quantum experiment affects the outcome of that experiment. [StealthSkater note:
more on remote-viewing archived at http://www.stealthskater.com/Science.htm#RV ]
It should be noted in regards to the paragraph above, in linear systems the measured energy output is
never greater than the energy originally input to any dynamic system. Although in nonlinear systems,
the energy output may be disproportionately greater than the originally energy input. This would
strongly suggest it is possible to have Macro-effects even though the original energy catalyst was very
subtle since what we call reality is neither absolutely orderly or absolutely chaos. Cascading effects in
predominately nonlinear systems would make the emergence of Macro events possible even though they
usually appear infrequently.
The subject of nonlinear dynamics is a subject onto itself. Prof. Bohm has stated in some of his
manuscripts regarding implicate and explicate orders that absolute chaos actually doesn’t exist. What
we perceive as chaos Prof. Bohm speculates can be orderly systems operating within higher orders of
symmetry. Others have stated what appears as chaos can be probable states or unrealized states of
possibilities. It's interesting to note in digital RF communications involving direct sequence spread
spectrum communications, or ultra-wideband digital spread spectrum communications as system
efficiency increases an interesting byproduct is an increase of randomness as well. What would be
detected as noise or static to a conventional narrowband RF receiver is data to a synchronized wideband
spread spectrum receiver. Today, it is common to have multiple channels operating simultaneously
without causing interference to each other or the typical narrowband radio receiver. Although the
background noise level, static would increase as the intelligence is buried within or below the noise
floor.
I think most people are familiar with what is called the Divining (or "dowsing") rod. When someone
trained and familiar uses a divining rod, the rod itself operates as a tool to detecting water, oil, metal,
underground streams of water, etc. The rod itself has no special attributes, although when used by
someone familiar and skilled in the use of the split rod, it becomes an active tool to detecting a wide
range of materials.
I have personal used divining rods on occasion as well as witnessing others who use them to make a
living. In Florida as well as Nevada and other states, it is a respected field and part-time occupation.
How and why the divining rods operate and get results is anyone's guess. Although I can only assume
we as biological beings are far more sensitive and subconsciously aware than most would imagine. And
the rod is just a simple component, similar to a wire connecting different components to form a complete
circuit for a desired purpose and function.
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In my previous email, I statedthere is a likelihood that we have probably been visited by several
different advanced species from planets other than Earth. Some former military officers -- who are or
have been active member of MUFON (Mutual UFO Network) -- have speculated that some of these
advanced species when within their aero-spatial vehicles may actually be part of (and complete) the
circuit of the craft itself.
Just as the divining rod is a tool to detecting water, oil, etc., in such a scenario the aero-spatial craft
would require an operator to complete the circuit and function as a transport. As I described above, if a
person can consciously affect a random number generator without physical contact, it wouldn’t be
difficult to envision the same basic principle taking place for a more advanced species to activate, direct,
and control an aero-spatial vehicle by their physical presence and directed thought alone.
[StealthSkater note: same thing Col. Corso hypothesized =>
http://www.stealthskater.com/UFO.htm#Corso ]
Also by the same sources stated above, it is also likely these more advanced beings could mentally
operate as a collective as well. Famous psychologist Carl Gustav Jung wrote and speculated about an
unconscious human collective in which information is shared unconsciously and possibly
subconsciously through a species wide collective. [StealthSkater note: similar to the Star Trek "Q-
continuum"?]
Although at first appearance this may seem insane to even ponder, there is material publicly
available which supports this theory. Cleve Backster in his recently released book titled Primary
Perception demonstrate with over 30 years of laboratory experiments with plants, yeast cells, human
cells, etc. that there is constant communications taking place. Cleve will not say or speculate on what
this medium is or is not. The effects are easily repeated and recorded. It is not E/M (electromagnetic); it
is not RF (radio frequency). The effect cannot be shielded. And the effect is instantaneous. Cleve
Backster`s research has been and continues to be selectively ignored by the mainstream scientific
community.
Mark, just another dot to connect to a much larger picture. I will follow-up as time permits.
Best Regards
Mike
S-659. from Ed Halerewicz regarding Bob Lazar
From: "Edward Halerewicz, Jr." <halgravity@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Mon, June 5, 2006 12:37 pm
Subject: Bobo
Mark,
Thought you would like an update to my digging into Lazar. At the moment, I really do think he
never had a degree in physics although may be perhaps an electronics degree and -- at best -- and
conceptual physics course. But nothing really beyond that based on his descriptions.
I have two-or-so things that could be inferred about the science he speaks if you assume there are
some nuggets to it. But I'm rather surprised that if true why he would not point them out. I will wait
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until I have had enough time to fully critique his many statements to say what those concept are at this
time.
However, I will attach a portion of the April C2C interview that I've included in my present task so
that you can have a taste of what was talked about. I marked where Knapp and Huff were speaking. All
other text is straight from Lazar and [ ] bracket are my own comments FYI...
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(Coast to Coast AM 2006)
Gene Huff: ... I think Bob not elaborating in "The Lazar Tape" and other interviews on
Element 115, umm, has caused some problems. When a lab synthesizes some 115 and if Bob
would explain how they do that I mean these, these particles... But the 115 that Bob dealt
with was kept under neutron bombardment [italicized as the statement tends to support the
notes within the Joe Vaninetti Diary] at rest and [sic] Bob and what ehh [sic] it could have
been an isotope or what -- I don’t know I’m not a physicist -- of 115.
But there were a lot of extenuating circumstances about this 115. It wasn’t just a clump
of 115. They had to take great care to make it exist, right? Yeah, I mean... When they
synthesize elements and there’s a variety of ways and you know a popular new way is
nuclide fusion [this is actually the “popular” old way] where you just accelerate particles or
subatomic particles at each other and cyclotrons or linear accelerators and just smash these
things together or by other means [the other means is how the synthesized Z=115 atoms were
produced, a procedure which he seems largely ignorant]
...they can never measure ah or analyze these elements in depth when they make it that way.
...I never do interviews. [an interesting contradiction]
George Knapp: ... If it’s not stable as what you described, how do you explain that? Well,
both sides are actually correct to some degree. Yeah, it was something that I said was
possible [this implies that he in the past suggested that it was possible to create 115 under
laboratory conditions; however, this is a blatant contradiction with earlier proclamations of
“heavy” star systems]
-- Edward Halerewicz, Jr.
Truss Technician/Independent Researcher
http://da_theoretical1.tripod.com/index.htm
S-660. from Ed Halerewicz regarding interdimensional UFOs
From: "Edward Halerewicz, Jr." <halgravity@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Mon, June 5, 2006 3:56 pm
Subject: Re: Dan Aykroyd, David Sereda on C2C about interdimensional UFOs
> Ed --
>
> Chuck Clark retired to Rachel, Nevada to do some astronomy and be closer to his son. He
has ventured out into Area-51 to take some sophisticated (if illegal) photos of military craft.
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I got his story from Darlington's book and archived part of it in (I think)
WorldReports_1.doc . He said his interest in UFOs began when he and other kids playing a
baseball/softball game noticed them playing cat-and-mouse with jet interceptors in 1956 (if
memory serves) Los Angeles. He seemed to have replaced Glen Campbell at the Al-i-en Inn
due to a feud between Campbell and the Travises.
>
> He argues that UFOs could be a dimensional phenomena as opposed to an interstellar one.
Then I saw this at C2C today:
>
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>>
>> http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2006/06/04.html#recap
>>
>> George Noory welcomed Dan Aykroyd (first hour only) and David Sereda (full show),
who talked about their new documentary film, Dan Aykroyd Unplugged on UFOs. Aykroyd,
who's had a long-standing interest in ufology, said he's had two of his own UFO experiences
and that he serves as the Hollywood consultant for MUFON. Of all the cases he's studied, the
one he said that stands out most for him featured police officer audio tapes with live
descriptions of a UFO that was pursued around Trumbull County, Ohio in 1994.
>>
>> The case that has impressed Sereda the most dealt with multiple incidents in Cairo in
1968-70 (website/photos). It involved sightings of the Virgin Mary which were accompanied
by unknown aerial objects, which he classified as "angelic UFOs." He also discussed UFO
footage shot in Phoenix by Jeff Willes that showed a translucent craft, which Sereda believes
indicates the presence of higher frequency wavelengths.
>>
>> Sereda also shared his theory about Roswell: The 1945 testing of an atomic bomb at the
Trinity site in New Mexico sent out gamma radiation and such higher frequency vibrations
could have knocked out interdimensional UFOs in the area. We didn't see the effects until
two years later (because of "time dilation") when 2 spaceships crashed on either side of the
Trinity location.
>>
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>
> If nuke tests open up some sort of dimension portal, it might be due to some other effect
than gamma radiation. Remember that I told you that some effects about the Hiroshima blast
are still classified to this day. And it's well-established that UFO sightings go hand-in-hand
with nuke tests. I just wonder why the knee-jerk reaction to order a worldwide moratorium?
Plus he doesn't guess at what happens to the UFOs after they gain entrance to our realm.
They seem to eventually go away. (Does the portal catch up to them like the freak storm in
the movie "The Final Countdown"?)
>
> Makes me wonder if the not-so-credible source Richard Boylan wasn't onto something
regarding holographic portals, We Ho Lee, and LANL. Plus the "time dilation" stuff smacks
of the P-X and Montauk.
> I wouldn't think the "higher vibrations" (certainly that has to be something else -- perhaps
akin to Reich's "orgone") would be gravitational waves or the like.
>
> Maybe I can find out more about this Sereda fellow and others who are promoting this
interdimensional (hyperspace? consciousness? zen?) hypothesis.
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>
> -- Mark
Hi,
Every now-and-again, I listen to C2C after my initial accidental catching of the station where it airs
locally. And I caught the one the other night as it happens. More often than not, Science is often
misunderstood on that program (for example, Noory seems to think proving extra dimensions ala string
theory [by satellite] is a major paradigm shift. It is not. The proposal of extra-dimensions has been
around since the 70s).
The idea of a nuke opening up an inter-dimensional portal is laughable to the extreme. If that were,
the case the Sun and all other stars would serve as giant wormholes. This is simply not the case. As for
the program last night, he was trying to argue that Trinity caused a time dilation effect upon the UFOs.
Hardly inter-dimensional travel.
Even if you go the ET route with nukes … Well if a probe was in orbit, it would be pretty easy to
spot a gamma ray burst. So I don't at all see the connection which you assert. Your assertion among the
matter just makes me think of the zebra adage. If it has hoofs and a mane, think a horse not zebra!
There may be a connection there if your sources are to be trusted. But I highly doubt it would be
anything as exotic as would want to believe.
And on the inter-dimensional UFO principle you like so much, essentially any method of "FTL"
would require a trip through hyperspace. One example being the UNITEL MQT concept. And another
the flawed hyperdrive concept brought up at this year's STAIF conference.
The one thing of interest was his mention of a "gravity wave generator" seen only at certain
wavelengths. That would be interesting if true and if he was willing to share the photo to the public. I
hope his DVD sales are good, though. It would be nice to get paid to do the scientific work I do on
exotic/propulsion physics in my spare time through his proposed think tank. Though his interpretation
of the Dirac sea of negative electrons was way off-key, that's what happens when non physicists attempt
to use physics to attempt to describe metaphysical principles.
-- Edward Halerewicz, Jr.
Truss Technician/Independent Researcher
http://da_theoretical1.tripod.com/index.htm
S-661. from Mike D'Agostino regarding ET species
From: "mangomike1@yahoo.com" <mangomike1@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Wed, June 7, 2006 11:30 pm
Subject: Nukes, UFO's, consciousness
Hi Mark,
At present, countries which have been identified by international regulatory agencies as having
nuclear weapons are the United States, United Kingdom, Russia, France, China, Pakistan, Israel, and
India. Mark, unlike yourself, I have not done an intensive study into UFOs being present during actual
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tests of nuclear weapons by the major countries above. Although many have their own theories
regarding the agenda of what has come to be known as extraterrestrial aliens, ETs, or EBEs. Some
have stated their agenda is to secure certain ores; others say it is water. I have heard many theories as
I’m sure you have. If there are several advanced species visiting our planet, maybe each has their own
unique agenda as well.
The EBEs called and commonly described as the "Grays" or the "kids". Some former Military
officers connected with MUFON have told me their agenda is a simple one: to infuse new genetic
material into their gene pools. It is by far the simplest explanation. The Grays do not multiple and
procreate as we do. Instead they -- according to some sources-- use incubation tanks on a large scale
and genetically are basically "copied" or cloned as I have been informed through some of my sources.
If new but subtle changes are introduced, there are little problems. But if they make copies of copies
and this process is repeated continually, the end result are riddled with defects until copies are no longer
possible. Diversity is required to continue the process of evolution, so it appears. It would be like
making a copy on a copy machine, then continually making more copies from the previous copies.
Eventually you end up with something that is totally eligible. DNA sequencing is similar it is necessary
to introduce new sequences into the gene pool in order to continue to replicate and clone successfully.
These changes may be very subtle, but necessary.
The theory is that they will occasionally secure new genetic material from time-to-time to ensure the
survival of their race. This would lend credibility to some of the reported "abduction" cases reported.
But not all of them. In addition, it may lend credence to what we understand as a psychic link or bond
between twins in our society, between human twins. The concept of a psychic collective would be
understandable and reasonable to masses created of a replicated-cloned dependent species. This psychic
bonding or linking can in a primitive way be thought of as quantum or photon entanglement at the time
of biological inception. Although in human society it is more common to deny such abilities exist as it
is frowned upon in human societies. The typical approach for social and educational development is
that if an effect can’t be rationally explained, it is far easier to deny the effect exists at all.
Another source who previously worked with the ONR (Office of Naval Research) claims that the
EBEs known as the "Grays", DNA sequencing is 99% that of humans and 1% sequencing which closely
resembles that of sea turtles and or dolphins. Although, again, I have no means to verify the information
other than taking it at face value.
Several years ago, another contact of mine working for the Dept. of Energy claimed that he was
hired to study 200 dropa stones. => http://www.crystalinks.com/dropa.html
This is only one of many sites for info on the dropa stones (or disc as they are called). He claimed
they are authentic although I don’t have first-hand experience. To make things even stranger, this same
person claims spontaneous mutations in the lineage of the human genome may have been manipulated.
Which open up another can of worms to ponder.
Mark, in light of this and other information imparted to me by others, your previous question
regarding the appearance of UFOs during nuclear weapons testing may be simple: their (the Grays)
concern that we (humans) will either destroy ourselves or at the very least damage the gene pool they
require to ensure their own perpetuated existence. Although it appears more interesting to believe very
complex conspiracies are present, the mainstream population loves a great mystery even at the cost of
dismissing Occam’s razor in the process. Occam's razor states that the explanation of any phenomenon
should make as few assumptions as possible, eliminating those that make no difference in the observable
predictions of the explanatory.
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Regarding conspiracies, it should be noted they usually involve a number of different elements
operating in concert to complete a set objective in a clandestine manner. The more the complexity of a
conspiracy, the more variables involved as complexity increases so to the possibility of detection and
over-all failure.
Best Regards
Mike
S-662. from Paul Devine regarding the "Torbitt Memorandum"
From: "paul devine" <grandfatherpaul@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Tue, June 27, 2006 2:59 pm
Subject: The "Torbitt Memorandum" (or did Werner von Braun and NASA kill JFK?
Mark,
In my " \In case you've been wondering what happened to me ... "(April 27, 2006) e-mail, I promised
some material on the so-called "Torbitt Document" or Torbitt Memorandum. (The "Torbitt" here is a
pseudonym.) The thrust of this document is that Werner von Braun and NASA, the FBI (but not the
CIA!), and the Nazis killed JFK in Dallas. There follow my conclusions about this Memorandum
which, officially, is: Torbitt, William, (1970), * Nomenclature of an Assassination Cabal *. When
finally published (1996) in book form -- under the title * NASA, NAZIS & JFK: The Torbitt Document
and the Kennedy Assassination * ( Adventures Unlimited Press ) as by William Torbitt -- the original
Memorandum was buried inside the middle of a much larger work that I call the "Torbitt Document".
And that represented the collective efforts of about 4 people altogether.
(1). And so, the Torbitt Document -- the book -- is not all by Torbitt. There is more to the Torbitt
Document, in book form (1996), than just the (1970) Torbitt Memorandum. In fact, about four separate
people contributed to the published version of it. Only the (1970) Memorandum itself is by Torbitt.
(2). In the second place, to prove murder, you have to prove 3 things: (i) motive ; (ii) means ; (iii)
opportunity.
(3).There is nothing in Torbitt proper -- the Torbitt Memorandum --which provides (i) a motive for
Werner von Braun to have killed JFK. Torbitt is obviously a lawyer because he argues in a very
legalistic way. He argues that if any part of a whole organization is guilty of a crime, then everybody in
the entire organization -- including the leadership -- are guilty of the crime.
Now, Torbitt --- as nearly as I can understand him --- believes that elements of a certain umbrella
security organization (DISC) was involved in killing JFK. But Torbitt also puts Werner von Braun at
the top of this umbrella organization. (This is a statement which, if true, is something that I had not
known before). Therefore, Werner von Braun killed JFK.
But Torbitt's reach exceeds his grasp. In the first place, there is no evidence known to me that
Werner von Braun ever did that kind of "security" work for the Government (in the sense of murdering
"spies" and "Communists" etc. in Government). And so, he would never have had (ii) the means or (iii)
the opportunity to kill JFK in Dallas, whether-or-not he was ever in the DISC, let alone at its top. (The
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DISC was also involved in investigating the backgrounds of people to be hired to work for NASA. And
the job of hiring people to work for NASA is a job at which Werner von Braun would have been
imminently good. And so, the DISC would have investigated the backgrounds of people -- chosen by
von Braun to be hired to work for NASA -- before they were actually hired)
(4). There is something else in the Document (the 1996 book) but not in the 1970 Torbitt Memorandum
proper that is as close as the entire Document (the 1996 book) ever comes to providing (i) a possible
motive for NASA to be involved in Dallas. And this material is in the "Forward" by David Hatcher
Childress (a C2C guest ), which was not even part of the original 1970 Torbitt Memorandum and which
is not even by Torbitt. The material comes from the caption to an un-numbered lower photo on an un-
numbered page xii in the published book, and from the last paragraph on page vii of the "Forward"
section (both by Childress, neither by Torbitt ). I will quote from them for you.
(5). From the caption: "President Kennedy, von Braun, ... Kennedy's special assistant for Science and
technology Dr. Jerome B. Wiesner ... tour the George C. Marshall Space Flight Center on September 11,
1962. An impassioned discussion of the best method to travel to the Moon occurred just after this photo
was made. Von Braun insisted that the gigantic Saturn V rocket was the only method by which a
voyage to the Moon was possible. Kennedy and Weisner apparently were arguing with von Braun about
other methods of travel to the Moon."
(6). And from the last paragraph on page vii: "Perhaps the Kennedy space program and the von
Braun/military industrial complex space program (commonly known as NASA) just didn't mesh.
Electric spacecraft, magnetic spacecraft, gyro spacecraft, and other alternative propulsion means were
simply not an acceptable alternative to the oil companies and their defense department associates."
(7). But this as (i) a motive to kill Kennedy is all hogwash. The fact is that if the Americans wanted to
be able to meet their own, self-imposed, end-of-the-decade deadline for landing on the Moon, then there
was simply no alternative to the Saturn V rocket because there simply was not enough time to perfect
from scratch any new and alternative technology. And even the Saturn V rocket had to work -- and
work right -- the first time. Which it did, fortunately! (It was PBS/NOVA, I believe, which did an
excellent program on this some years ago.)
(8). If you are going to find (i) any possible motive for Werner von Braun or for NASA to be involved in
killing JFK, then a more likely motive would have been provided by a (Sept. 29, 1963) speech JFK
made to the U.N. in which he offered to call off the race to the Moon in return for Russia agreeing to
cooperate with the U.S.A. in a joint program of exploration in outer space. But this speech -- as a
possible motive ... on the part of such a former Nazi as Werner von Braun ... to kill JFK -- is not even
mentioned in Torbitt. Not at all, not anywhere. The source for this speech, BTW, is Leroy Fletcher
Prouty, (1992) , * JFK : & * (Birch Lane Press / Carol Publishing Group ) , Chapter 19 , page 289 .
(9). Furthermore, there is the question of the sources for "Torbitt". Jim Marrs -- who identified Torbitt -
- says that Torbitt had 2 main sources for his Memorandum: an FBI agent and an agent with the Secret
Service. But in the Torbitt Document (the book), there is an "About the Author" section on pages 195-
197. Therein it is stated that Torbitt's 2 sources were an agent of the Customs Department [sic] and an
agent with the Narcotics Bureau.
Now, this contradiction is fatal. Firstly, it means that there is no truthfulness about sources -- so why
believe anything the man says at all?! (This, unfortunately, does not prevent him from being right, of
course!) Secondly, if "About the Author" is right -- and if Jim Marrs is wrong -- then Torbitt was using
as sources people who had no connection with what they were talking about. For the thrust of the book
is that it was the FBI and not the CIA which murdered President Kennedy. And yet neither the Bureau
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of Customs nor the Bureau of Narcotics are the Federal Bureau of Investigation! Neither Bureau is the
CIA, either! Therefore, neither source necessarily knew what it was talking about.
(10). But Torbitt is not all wrong. He got a few things right including -- but not limited to -- the
following assertions. Some rogue members of the FBI were involved in Dallas. Hoover was involved
in it. Torbitt says -- correctly -- that Johnson was involved in it. Torbitt says that Nazis (in the sense of
the Nazi International, international Naziism) were involved in Dallas. And again, he is right.
Torbitt is right when he says that JFK was murdered by a " fascist cabal ... who planned to lay the
blame on honest right-wing conservatives if their first ploy -- to lay the blame on Oswald and the
Communists -- was not bought." And I do think that Torbitt is right in his Memorandum when he goes
into the sponsorship behind the plots (ca. 1961-1962 ) to kill French President General Charles de
Gaulle (think "The Day of the Jackal " here). And in fact, an ambush -- virtually identical to an ambush
that failed against de Gaulle in 1962 -- worked against Kennedy in Dallas the following year. And it is
known who tried to kill de Gaulle. And Torbitt simply assumes that the same organizations were
involved in both plots. Without much proof, it seems to me.
(11). Otherwise and in conclusion, old bean, it seems to me that if in general, you publish or mount on
your website as being factual anything taken from Torbitt, then you will be damned as a dupe of dis-
information for your trouble. (How's that for alliteration?!)
(s) Paul
S-663. from Paul Devine regarding 1963 Dallas and 1947 Maury Island
From: "paul devine" <grandfatherpaul@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Tue, June 27, 2006 3:35 pm
Subject: RE " Chrisman/Crisman/Chrismo /Crismon (1963 Dallas, 1947 Maury Island)"
Mark,
In my (April 27, 2006) "In case you've been wondering what happened to me ... " e-mail, I promised
you something on the (Tacoma , Wash.) UFOlogist, Fred Lee Crisman as per the quotation in the
"Subject" bar above ). This man played a role in the 1947 Maury Island UFO incident. And New
Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison called him to testify in connection with DA Garrison's
investigation into the murder of President Kennedy (much of which murder was, in fact, planned in New
Orleans).
Many serious charges were laid by Torbitt in his 1970 Memorandum (see my e-mail on Torbitt)
against a certain "Chrismon" -- someone whom DA Garrison apparently (but for unknown reasons)
identified with Fred Lee Crisman, the Washington State UFOlogist. I undertook to investigate these
charges. There follow my results.
Oddly enough, you came very close to solving the case yourself for you have archived part of the
1971 Age of Flying Saucers by Paris Flammonde
[http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Flammonde_01.doc ]. If
you had archived just a little bit more, then you would have solved a good part of the mystery of Fred
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Lee Crisman (as far as that mystery can be solved nowadays). The relevant material is on page 215,
from Chapter 17 ("The Last Gods Going Home"). I quote it for you:
"Without question, the strangest of all Flying Saucer -- assassination connections arose
in a totally unrelated manner. In December of 1968, Jim Garrison summoned to New
Orleans for questioning before the grand jury Fred L. Crisman of Tacoma, Washington,
who had figured so prominently in the 1947 Maury Island mystery which was partially
investigated by Kenneth Arnold. Having made his appearance, Crisman left New Orleans
and was not mentioned again by the district attorney's office as of mid-1970." [I have left
out 2 footnotes -- 20 and 21 -- from the typescript above as I cannot reproduce superscripts
with my limited knowledge of the Web].
Thus far concerning Mr. Crisman alone.
This does not solve the mystery completely because "Chrismon" was linked by Torbitt -- and
Crisman all-but-certainly was linked by New Orleans DA Jim Garrison, as well -- with 2 other men
named Bowen and Osborne. The mystery of the identity of "Chrismon" remains, for me. The mystery of
the identity of "Chrismon" aside, the mystery of Bowen/Osborne can be solved.
But not in such a short, simple paragraph as the above paragraph concerning the Tacoma Crisman.
But these other names also have nothing demonstrable to do with the (Tacoma ,Wash.) Fred Lee
Crisman (born ca. 1920). Or with flying saucers, either. And so with your permission, I will omit them.
Otherwise, let me know and I will cobble something together and forward it to you.
--- Paul ---
S-664. from Paul Devine regarding a Novel file (introduction)
From: "paul devine" <grandfatherpaul@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Subject: A Novel File (Introduction)
Date: Tue, June 27, 2006 3:45 pm
INTRODUCTION
The website www.anomalies.net/area51/s4/boblazar/joe/39-40.jpg -- the diary of Joe Vaninetti --
records (on pages 39-40 ) a reference to 2 phone calls that Bob Lazar claims Gordon Novel made to
himself, Lazar, on-or-about November 16, 1989. By his own claim, Lazar recorded the second of the 2
phone calls, and played the call back for Vaninetti. In the recording, the voice (supposedly that of
Gordon Noel) claimed that "I diverted 2 birds from S-4 to Douglas for $15 billion."
This statement is supposed to mean that Novel basically stole 2 flying saucers from the U.S.
Government and diverted them to the Douglas aircraft company in return for $15 billion for himself,
Gordon Novel. (This WS is archived by "Kram" [i.e., Mark (aka "Stealthskater") McWilliams ] at
http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Lazar_21.doc . )
Now, the name of Gordon Novel bulks large in the history of The Thousand Days of Camelot ---- up
to and including Dallas --- as well as in the history of Watergate itself (an extension of Dallas).
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In addition, Bob Lazar has reported incidents which certainly do represent possible assassination
attempts against himself and which took place at about the same time as these 2 phone calls.
Therefore, your present witness took it upon himself to gather together materials concerning Gordon
Novel from histories of the assassination of President Kennedy, as well as from the Watergate period.
This collection makes no pretence to being complete. It seemed that Bob Lazar has a right to know the
kind of people with whom he has been dealing (albeit more than 15 years ago).
The accumulation of collected material follows. It has been gathered -- and is being presented -- in
no particular order.
Subject: A Novel File # 1
The following material is excerpted from the following sub-domain
www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKtorbitt.htm of the "Spartacus" WS of John Simkin. This
particular sub-domain represents an excerpt from the so-called "Torbitt Memorandum". (The
Memorandum concerns the 1963 murder of President Kenndey in Dallas, Texas. The name "Torbitt" is
a pseudonym . ) The relevant part of Simkin's excerpt, for present purposes, is the following :
"According to the author ... Torbitt, others involved in the assassination included ... .
Gordon Novel ..."
Subject: A Novel File # 2
This particular file contains an excerpt from another part of John Simkin's "Spartacus" WS -- this
time at www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKnovel.htm , Simkin's document on Gordon Novel -- with
links therein cited.
This entire document is of interest. For example, it shows Novel to have had Nazi sympathies in his
youth. (Did they continue on into adulthood?)
But for present purposes, one particular excerpt (among many) of interest is the "(5) Dave Reitzes,
'Gordon Novel: CIA Agent or Con Artist? ' (2004) " entry, from which concerning Novel : " ... in fact,
Novel's been caught in any number of lies -- ..." And again, at the same entry, with reference to the
famous 1961 heist .. in which Novel was involved ... from a Schlumberger Well Surveying Corporation
(Houma, LA.) storage bunker: "Contrary to later claims by participant Gordon Novel … the heist
appears to have been, in fact, a simple burglary and not the CIA 'weapons transfer ' alleged in many
conspiracy books."
Subject: A Novel File # 3
Paris Flammonde -- who wrote a book-length appreciation of the efforts by New Orleans District
Attorney Jim Garrison to solve the murder of President Kennedy -- has an entire chapter on Gordon
Novel. The book is Flammonde's 1969 THE KENNEDY CONSPIRACY: An Uncommissioned Report
on the Jim Garrison Investigation (New York, NY, Meredith Press). The chapter in question is Chapter
5 (" Gordon Novel"), pages 96-109, with notes.
Subject: A Novel File # 4
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The following material is from McKnight, Gerald D., (2005), BREACH OF TRUST: How the
Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why (Lawrence, Kansas, The University Press of Kansas):
Chapter 12, page 313; with note 40 thereto on page 442 with bibliographical data from page 460.
The material from (C. 12, p. 313 ) concerns the meeting in New Orleans of a group of people,
recruited by CIA David Atlee Phillips and is as follows:
"A young and well-connected New Orleans native -- Gordon Novel -- brought to the
group his expert knowledge about sophisticated electronics. Novel knew most of the print
news media; ... Novel later claimed that he was a CIA operative, but the CIA disputed his
claim. Guy ... Bannister also assigned Novel to identify former servicemen -- especially
ex-Marines -- who had special weapons skills and held strong anti-Castro views ...", with
footnote 40.
The material from note 40 to C.12 on p.442) -- with the bibliographical material from page 460 -- is
as follows:
"40. Most of the information about the CIA's New Orleans preparation for the April
1961 invasion of Cuba was taken from the sworn testimony of Gordon Novel. See his
lengthy deposition in * Gordon Novel vs. Jim Garrison and the HMH Publishing Company,
Inc. * , U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois, Western Division, May
1969, especially pages 377 - 599. For Novel's admitted CIA connection, see the * New
Orleans States- Item *, April 25, 1967 ; and ASAC Sylvester to SAC New Orleans,
4/20/1967 , New Orleans JFK Assassionation File , 89 - 69 - 2015 ."
Subject: A Novel File # 5
The following material comes from Jim Marrs, (1989), CROSSFIRE: The Plot That Killed Kennedy
(Carroll&Graf), "PART III : Aftermath ", section "The Garrison Investigation". There are 2 sub-
sections of this section involved here: the sub-section "Clay Shaw and Permindex " on page 508 and the
"Summary" sub-section on page 516.
The material from the "Clay Shaw and Permindex" sub-section, on p.508, reads :
"But Garrison's major 'missing witness' was Gordon Novel, a young electronics expert
who eventually became embroiled in some of this Nation's most controversial cases. Novel
first approached Garrison in early 1967 with information about David Ferrie and Cuban
exile activities. But soon Garrison came to believe that Novel was a CIA 'plant'. After
Garrison subpoenaed Novel, he fled to Ohio where Governor James Rhodes -- despite a
personal call from Governor John McKeithen of Louisiana -- refused to allow extradition ...
A note left behind in his New Orleans apartment (which was later authenticated as being
written by Novel) mentioned his work for Double Check Corporation -- a CIA 'front'
located in Miami ... "
The context of the material from the "Summary" sub-section, page 516, is that:
New Orleans DA Jim Garrison has accused New Orleans businessman Clay Shaw of
involvement in the murder of President Kennedy. Of course, the case cannot go to trial
immediately, and here is what happened in the meantime :
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"However, by the time Shaw's case reached court, Garrison's case was fatally weakened
by the death of key witnesses -- Ferrie, Bannister, Bannister's partner, Hugh ward, and
Cuban exile Eladio del Valle. Other witnesses -- CIA operative Gordon Novel and anti-
Castro Cuban leader Sergio Archaca Smith -- were given sanctuary in other states whose
governors refused Garrison's lawful extradition orders."
Subject: A Novel File # 6 (Novel and : Watergate ; automobile magnate John DeLorean)
The fol;owing material concerning Gordon Novel and Taergate comes from Jim Marrs, (1989),
CROSSFIRE : The Plot that Killed Kennedy (Carroll&Graf), "Part III: Aftermath", section "The
Garrison Investigation", sub-section "Clay Shaw and Permindex", page 508:
" In 1974, Novel -- who claimed to have worked for the CIA -- met with President
Nixon's special counsel Charles Colson and discussed developing a special 'degaussing'
machine that would erase Nixon's incriminating White House tapes from afar.
"Novel also cropped up as an electronics expert in the case of automobile magnate John
DeLorean. "
Subject: A Novel File # 7
The material herein comes from 2 locations in Jim Garrison's (1988) ON THE TRAIL OF THE
ASSASSINS :My Investigation and Prosecution of the Murder of President Kennedy (New yYork, NY,
Sheridan Square Press, 1988):
Chapter 14 ("The Company "), pages 178-181, concerning Novel; and the material quoted below,
from page 301 in the "AFTERWORD : Is the Mafia Theory a Valid Alternative?" by Carl Oglesby :
"It was not because Garrison's charges were unfounded that the Governor of Ohio
refused to extradite an extremely critical witness (Gordon Novel) to Louisiana. It was
because the Government does not want the people to know the truth about the JFK
assassination."
Subject: A Novel File # 8 ( Novel, after Garrison, but before Lazar )
The material herein comes from the (1974) Forgive My Grief IV by Penn Jones, Junior. The
material is on page 84, and bears the "Some Win, Some Don't" title. From the "THE WINNERS
"section on that page:
"Gordon Novel -- the admitted CIA agent who skipped from New Orleans in a hurry to
escape testifying in the Clay Shaw trial -- is now a big-shot business executive in Dallas.
Novel is promoting Expo '76 and -- according to the Dallas News -- Novel has an option on
3,000 acres of land adjoining the Space Center in Houston." [NFI].
Subject: A Novel File # 9 ( Conclusion )
This is the end of my series of sendings concerning Gordon Novel, with whom Bob Lazar had
contact on-or-about Nov. 16, 1989. I sent this material because I think that Lazar has a right to know
the kind of people who interest themselves in him. I will leave it to Bob Lazar to draw his own
conclusions from this material, especially in light of what he seems to have felt were attempts on his life
at about the same time as his contact with Gordon Novel.
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S-665. from Paul Devine regarding death threats to Bob Lazar
From: "paul devine" <grandfatherpaul@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Tue, June 27, 2006 4:07 pm
Subject: Lazar via Knapp (?) RE threats to "Lazar" Hugh C. McDonald, and Lazar's troubles
I have followed the adventures of Bob Lazar from a distance since discovering him on Coast-to-
Coast AM. His adventures remind me of certain aspects of the history of "The Thousand Days of
Camelot" (the 1961-1963 Presidency of JFK) and the aftermath.
For example, (1) Lazar's (Nov. 16, 1989) encounter with Gordon Novel, displayed on pages 39-40 of
Joe Vaninetti's diary (archived by "StealthSkater " at www.stealthskater.com.Lazar_21.doc). (Novel
was certainly involved in the Bay of Pigs. And (2) he was alleged by some to have been involved with
Dallas and the murder of Pres. Kennedy there). (3) The bad things that have happened to Lazar in his
career of "blowing the whistle" to the public regarding what he knows about the UFO phenomenon --
with special reference to Area-51.
I have elsewhere put together a list of documents that excerpt what I know about the activities
(actual or alleged ) of Gordon Novel in the period from 1961 (when JFK took office) through 1974
(when Nixon resigned), until at least as late as 1976. [The material from Joe Vaninetti's diary --
archived by "StealthSkater" above -- notices Lazar's contact (16 Nov. 16, 1989 ) with Novel ( on pages
39-40 of the diary ) ... and also brings us up to 1989]. This Novel-related material may help to provide
background and context to the "We're going to kill you " threat made by "Dennis" to Lazar on (August
30, 1989 ), as recorded on pages 27-28 of the Vaninetti diary.
I have also found a chapter from the first (1975) of 2 books by Hugh C. McDonald. The half-title of
the self-published book is APPOINTMENT IN DALLAS: & (Zebra). And the relevant chapter is
Chapter XIX ("Washington, D.C."), pages 105-110. McDonald had been a member of the Los Angeles
Police department (LAPD). After Dallas, McDonald had taken it on himself to ferret out at least one of
the real murderers of President Kennedy. In this particular chapter, McDonald's source -- CIA Herman
Kimsey -- is trying to dissuade McDonald from his self-appointed "whistle-blower" role. What CIA
Kimsey says to McDonald in order to dissuade him is given on pages 108-109 of the chapter.
Is it coincidence -- or is it more than coincidence -- that so much of what CIA Herman Kimsey
predicts for Hugh FC. McDonald has actually befallen Bob Lazar? (BTW, what Kimsey predicted did
not -- so far as I am aware -- ever actually come to pass for McDonald. Unfortunately, as much cannot
be said for Bob Lazar!)
I thought that others might be interested in this material but that -- at the very least -- I should not be
the only person to know it. (If you either already know it -- or do not want to know it -- then no harm is
done ).
I intend to forward the collection of Novel-related documents and "scan" Chapter XIX of the (1975 )
McDonald book to you.
--- Paul Devine ---
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P.S.: Death-threats should be taken seriously. Less than a year ago, Wayne Madsen (notoriously a thorn
in the side of the present regime!) was run out of WDC for a while on account of just such a threat. See
Caylor, John, (Aug. 27, 2005 ), "MADSEN UNDER THREAT OF ASSASSINATION Flees
Washington, DC" , online at
http://www.insider-magazine.com/madsen_under_threat.htm . For the (Aug. 27, 2005) date, see
http://mparent7777.linejournal.com/2005/08/27/ . / PJD /
S-666. from Paul Devine regarding Shag Habor, Canada UFO incident
From: "paul devine" <grandfatherpaul@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Tue, June 27, 2006 4:42 pm
Subject: Shag Harbor / Shellburn Harbor , Canada -- Fruit of Hellyer?
Mark,
I have learned that 'The History Channel' has a series, the title of which is " UFO FILES ". A recent
telecast involved the flying saucer phenomenon in Canada. My source gave "UFO FILES: UFOs in
Canada" as the title of the episode. It was done from 7-8 pm CT one Monday night a few weeks ago.
He watched it, but couldn't be sure of the copyright date or of the date of first screening. But from
internal evidence, he thought that the episode might have been filmed within the last decade.
It would be nice to think that Paul Hellyer had something to do with this. Either the episode is
recent -- filmed in response to his plea -- or else the show is old and has only just now been released in
response to Paul Hellyer's plea.
What was the episode about? In case you didn't have a chance to watch it, my source tells me that
the episode discussed about half-a-dozen Canadian UFO cases altogether. But most of the attention of
the show was on the (Oct. 04, 1967 ) Shag Harbor, Nova Scotia incident. This incident is said to have
been written up extensively in Halifax newspapers. It was also written up extensively by an American
university (the University of Colorado?) under a U.S. Air Force contract.
As nearly as I could understand from my source --- and as nearly as he could understand the program
--- Shag Harbor was in reality a distraction. The real action was taking place under the water in the
harbor of a place called "Shellburn" (phonetic spelling) -- a large NATO base on Canadian soil. The
producers for this episode were evidently able to identify about a dozen divers who were involved in the
incident (of whom two were willing to talk anonymously).
According to these 2 anonymous men, the divers found 2 "ships" at the bottom of the Shellburn
Harbor. One of them appeared to be trying to render assistance to the other one. (Apparently figures
were seen going from one of the "ships" to the other and then back again.) Then there was an alarm
concerning a submerged Soviet submarine out in the North Atlantic. This distracted the human
personnel on the surface. One of the 2 "ships" was then able to take advantage of the confusion among
the terrestrial forces in order to abscond. The other "ship" apparently was left behind --at the time --30
years ago.
Thus far my source.
--- Paul ---
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P.S.: My source also tells me that 'The History Channel' has since done in its "UFO FILES" series an
episode on flying saucers in Mexico.
S-667. from Paul Devine regarding lack-of-response from physicists
From: "paul devine" <grandfatherpaul@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, June 27, 2006 4:47 pm
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Subject: Two Brilliant Quotes
Mark,
For the most part, I am limiting my responses to your mailings to me since about last April to that
which has errors or mistakes in it. But 2 brilliant quotes came along that I could not pass over in silence.
You would do well to take them to heart as they may go an awful long way in explaining why experts
don't respond to messages.
(1). The first quote is from Tim Ventura on Bob Lazar in your Lazar_23.doc document. In it,
Ventura (?) says that "... a lot of non-technical people get involved with areas of physics that even PhD
physicists don't understand." This is from paragraph 2 of the section with "---Late 2002 / Early 2003 ---
" heading.
(2). The second quote is from your June 06, 2006 e-mail. "A mainstream physicist's view of
interdimensional UFOs") mailing in which there occurs the statement "That's what happens when non-
physicists attempt to use physics to attempt to describe metaphysical principles."
Who has the honor of having ventilated such insightful wisdom? Was it Ed Halerewicz or was it
Andrew E. Potter? Either way, the statement is very insightful.
Both quotes also explain why a lot of such statements and such questions do not get answered by
physicists. The physicist doesn't know what to do with the statement or question. And not knowing
what to do with it or how to answer it (and perhaps, not even understanding it), he does nothing.
FYI.
--- Paul ---
S-668. from Paul Devine regarding Paul Bennewitz
From: "paul devine" <grandfatherpaul@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Tue, June 27, 2006 4:50 pm
Subject: Paul Bennewitz in UFO Mag plus in Wikipedia
Mark,
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Some material on Paul Bennewitz turned up on pages 5-6 at
http://www.ufomag.com/public/21.5.32-37.mckinnon.pdf
with the link there to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bennewitz .
The article distinguishes between the (a) material (possibly genuine) acquired by Bennewitz before
he came to the attention of the authorities and (b) the (doubtless fake, dis-) information that came to him
afterwards.
Questions: Is there any way to distinguish between these 2 types of information in the material that
survives down to us from Bennewitz? Does the material exist on some kind of a timeline? Can the
material be placed in some kind of a sequence in time - in some kind of a chronological order?
---Paul---
S-669. from Paul Devine regarding Mind-Control
From: "paul devine" <grandfatherpaul@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Tue, June 27, 2006 4:56 pm
Subject: Were We Controlled?
Mark,
1. In your March 17, 2006 "What's Up?" e-mail , you began -- without preliminaries -- by talking
about "The Controllers" essay by Martin Cannon. Unfortunately, this was so long ago that I cannot
recall what I might have written to you that would call forth such a response from you. [StealthSkater
note: see http://www.stealthskater.com/PX.htm#Cannon ]
2. So, I am going to take advantage of the opportunity provided by your un-situated sending by going
back to the subject of mind-control. This time, I hope to do the job so thoroughly that it will not be
necessary to re-visit this subject in the future.
3. Earlier, your 2 Cannon documents (numbers 1 and 4 , respectively) had come up between us in our
exchanges. In your #4 document, Cannon apparently wanted to see the phenomenon of alien abduction
as an exercise in mind-control. In your #1 document, Cannon brought in the book Were We Controlled?
(with reference to what happened in Dallas) by "Lincoln Lawrence".
This name is a pseudonym. Your section with "Naval Intelligence" heading points out of the
pseudonymous author that "... he was in fact an FBI agent, ..." The pseudonymous author wants to be
able to use Lee Oswald as an example of mind-control. And Cannon -- basing himself on "Lincoln
Lawrence" and on his book -- also apparently wanted to use Lee Harvey Oswald as an example of mind-
control. Of mind-control gone wrong, perhaps, but still mind-control.
4. Now, I happen to know something about the subject of Lee Harvey Oswald and about the role that
some elements of the FBI played in that tragedy in Dallas. I am going to base my own comments on this
knowledge. But I think that this knowledge will prove transferable.
5. In the first place, I might as well begin at the beginning and get some bibliographical data onto the
table. There are 2 books that deal with the assassination of JFK as an exercise in mind-control. And
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both books blame the killing on Lee Harvey Oswald exclusively and alone. In fact, the 2 books are just
2 different editions of the same book.
The original version is Lawrence, Lincoln, (1967), Were We Controlled? (University Books). The
second version is Lawrence, Lincoln and Thomas, Kenn, (1997), MIND CONTROL, OSWALD & JFK:
Were We Controlled? with "Introduction" by Kenn Thomas (Adventures Unlimited Press).
As you can see, the second version is just an expanded, second edition of Lawrence's original 1967
effort which is re-published without change.
6. Just as an aside, it seems that no one ever got a written communication from this "Lawrence" except
for Damon Runyon Junior. (His father had been the famous NYC writer: The famous " Guys and Dolls"
was based on a short story of his). Now, Junior had been working on a condensation of Were We
Controlled? , the book, for The National Enquirer when on (Sunday, April 14, 1968 ), he went off the 'P'
Street bridge in Rock Creek Park (WDC) to his death. (His condensation for The National Enquirer was
never published ).
Dick (The Man Who Knew Too Much) Russell -- usually reliable in such matters -- says that "He
ended up being pushed off a bridge in Washington, DC." (The source here is pages 676-678 of the
original 1992 edition of Russell's book). Another "convenient death" if Russell is right. [StealthSkater
note: reminiscent of former Secretary-of-State James Forrestal of Majestic-12 fame.]
7. Well, to get on with the show …
8. This scenario of Lee Oswald as mind-control victim comes up again in the first of 2 books by Hugh
C. McDonald -- the Los Angeles Police Department officer who set himself the task of identifying and
bringing to justice at least one of the real people who actually fired at the President on the Plaza in
Dallas that day (and who exonerated Lee Oswald in the process, by the way!).
9. The book in question is APPOINTMENT IN DALLAS: & (Zebra , 1975), self-published by
McDonald.
10. The relevant chapter in question is Chapter XIX ("Washington, DC"), pages 105-110 .
11. In this chapter, McDonald is talking to CIA Herman Kimsey. Kimsey is trying to dissuade
McDonald from his self-appointed "whistle-blower" role . Kimsey begins with "There's a perfectly
sound and valid theory about the Kennedy assassination."
What is this " perfectly sound and valid theory"? Kimsey then outlines the mind-control theory of
Oswald as lone-nut gunman!
McDonald's reaction? McDonald's reaction, in part, is this: He asks Kimsey if he -- Kimsey himself
-- believes Kimsey's own story. Kimsey's reaction makes it clear that Kimsey himself does not believe
Kimsey's own story.
The story of Lee Oswald as mind-control victim run amuk is just a false story, designed to conceal
the identities of the real perpetrators. McDonald sees through the sham and determines to go after one
of the real assassins. And this real assassin -- when McDonald catches up to him -- completely
exonerates Oswald.
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12. The whole story makes for some fascinating reading. So fascinating, in fact, that I am going to scan
this particular chapter to you. My brief summary above cannot begin to do justice to the drama and
tension between the 2 men. (If you want to read the confession of "Carrion " -- the CIA's own code-
name for their paid assassin who shot at the President, and whom McDonald finally runs to earth -- then
you'll have to get your own copy of the book as that confession is way too long to include here ).
13. Well, what do we have here, then?
14. We have an FBI agent deliberately peddling mis-information about what happened in Dallas.
15. Would that not make said FBI agent to be, quite arguably, an accessory after the fact?
16. Indeed, it might well. But -- not to fear -- our anonymous FBI agent has company. In the
immediate aftermath of the assassination, an FBI agent (Regis Kennedy ) -- who had come all the way to
Dallas from New Orleans (the FBI office to which he had been assigned) comes running up to one of the
by-standers -- who had filmed part of the assassination -- demands her film from her. And promising its
return, runs off with it. The man never identified himself at the time. (The victimized woman identified
him, later on, from a set of photographs, shown to her of FBI employees who were known to have been
involved in the assassination -- as it was expressed by the person who narrated the incident).
And needless to say, the woman never saw her film again! In addition, a meeting at Jack Ruby's
place in Dallas -- for the purpose of planning the assassination --- a few weeks before the assassination -
- featured an FBI agent [NFI], in the words of a professional Mafia assassin who attended the early part
of the meeting. And -- last but not least -- DFBI J. Edgar Hoover himself was wire-tapped planning the
assassination with (among others ) George Herbert Walker Bush , Nelson Rockefeller, and Allen Dulles!
17. So, we have elements of the Federal Bureau of Investigation involved -- before, during, and after the
fact -- in the Crime of the Century. Part of their role -- as accessories-after-the-fact -- is obviously to
peddle this bill-of-goods about Oswald as mind-control victim. The purpose of this deception is to
deflect the investigation away from the direction in which it should be going -- in the direction of such
people as DFBI J. Edgar Hoover; Regis Kennedy; the pseudonymous "Lincoln Lawrence"; the
anonymous agent at table in Jack Ruby's place, planning the assassination weeks in advance; Bush;
Rockefeller; Dulles; and "Carrion " , the professional CIA assassin.
18. Mind-control as an element -- at least in the assassination of President Kennedy? Consider the
source!
19. However, Were We controlled? the book is not all bad. There is some useful information in it. For
example, it is the sole source (known to me) for the information that a Nazi-front -- the Bunge Group in
Argentina -- sued a U.S. oil company the day before the assassination, thereby setting the stage for
someone to profit to the tune of $500,000,000 the next day after the market (which had begun to decline
on news of the lawsuit) then collapsed in the aftermath of the receipt of the news of the assassination --
so much so that the authorities had to close the Stock Market 90 minutes early in order to prevent a rout
on Wall Street.
Lawrence and that book of his are our sole source for that information which appears to be accurate
so far as I am aware.
20. I have spent this whole message on one very narrow aspect of mind-control as applied to one very
narrow subject that I know well.
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21. I would like to suggest that talk of mind-control in other contexts might be just as much misleading
dis-information. I think that the lesson of Lee Harvey Oswald and Dallas is quite arguably transferable,
as I wrote above.
--- Paul ---
Postscript RE 1968, RFK, Sirhan, and Los Angeles: The June, 1968 shooting death of RFK in Los
Angeles is often offered as another example of death-by-mind-control on the grounds of Sirhan's
admittedly bizarre behavior after having been taken after RFK was shot. However, I argue that this
offering is just another example of dis-information, designed to protect and conceal the real murdering
party from consequences.
Why?
Consider the facts: According to the official autopsy report, RFK was killed by a "frangible" bullet
fired into the back of his head behind his right ear, from a distance of not more than an inch-or-two. On
the other hand, Sirhan never got that close to RFK and was always in front of RFK -- never behind him.
And bullets cannot go around corners!
There is said to have been someone with a news camera that close to RFK, and behind him, just
before Sirhan provided his distraction from the front. (The use of such a camera is a standard modus
operandi in assassination work). However, this camera-person is said to have disappeared completely
after the assassination and is never known to have been tracked down -- or identified and interviewed --
by anyone.
--- Paul ---
S-670. from Ed Halerewicz regarding Bob Lazar's claims
From: "Edward Halerewicz, Jr." <halgravity@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Tue, September 12, 2006 5:51 pm
Subject: more on Lazar's claims
A little treat for you -- a summary of what I have to say of Lazar's claims at this point …
As per taking another look at Lazar's claims, most -- if not all -- of the physics he brings up is just
simply wrong, although I suspect he may be quite knowledgeable in the field of electronics.
For starters, the whole concept of bringing a point in space-time far away to a local point is
impossible as per his description a spacecraft would distort more space and time then galactic black
holes and destroy an entire galaxy by jumping from star system to star system.
Now if the so-called "Gravity-A amplifiers" really did, in fact, amplify gravity and moved the way
Lazar described (as you believe), then there may be a simple mechanical process which would reproduce
space-time jumping-like effects without violating Relativity (while an interstellar ship should violate
Relativity at faster-than-light speeds, Relativity should still work up until that point, its common sense,
just as Quantum Mechanics works well for small objects and then classical theory replaces larger ones.
So I just don't put a lot of weight into the claims of Lazar myself).
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If such a beam focused close to a craft, then the beams would have more energy closer to a disk than
further away from one. So at close distance, the beams would make such a craft seem to travel very fast.
But at far distance, much slower. In other words, what the beams do is make the ship from its point-of-
view seem liking its jumping very fast and returning to normal space with the beams far away. But that
is not in fact what would really happen.
You can picture the way this would work with current science if you surround a ship with exotic
energy (which would seem to create anti-gravity effects). Because then you are essentially have the
Alcubierre warp drive. Putting more exotic energy near the front of the craft would make the gravity
field stronger near the ship, so it would travel faster. Moving the field further away weakens it and thus
slows the apparent velocity of the spacecraft (although in the Alcubierre warp drive, you would just
weaken the field and not send it out further; this makes this method of operation seem very clumsy.)
Thus if you assume the story to be true -- which I do not -- then this represents a limitation in ET
technology, suggesting our theories have better solutions while ETs could have technology that is
beyond ours (it's certainly not beyond anything we couldn't understand). So in principle, you might
make the argument that Lazar could be describing the mechanics of the spacecraft correctly, but his
physics which describes the actual method of propulsion at hand is highly flawed.
Lazar also never gave any details to paint any real picture as to what was going on. Perhaps because
he didn't have a real background in physics and was making the whole story up. As per the reactor
operation that was the only clue to how Element-115 allegedly generated an anti-gravity field (Lazar
says its not "anti-gravity" but "out of phase". But I call it anti-gravity because the field goes in the
opposite direction of "normal" gravity, so I would certainly call it anti-gravity even if he doesn't).
He said he could throw golf balls off the field at a distance of 20 inches. From this, you can back-
calculate the gravity field strength from a golf ball's mass and estimate a throwing speed for the ball.
From that, you can calculate what is a rather large graviton mass. Lazar also says that "gravitons" don't
exist. But their use is the only way you can make sense of the story.
For Lazar to be telling the truth, then what must be happening for 115 to produce the field in
question is that it somehow produces an anit-graviton that is confined to the nucleus of 115. An Earth
graviton then must be absorbed (or rather is superimposed at the same location) by the anti-graviton.
This would then slightly decrease the energy of the Earth graviton and also cause it's phase to reverse
direction. It is only this that could explain the gravity field around the reactor.
Antigravtons are a byproduct of string theory, although in that context they are given different names
so you would expect them to come from a higher dimension (another point Lazar doesn't like).
Gravitons from other dimensions are expected from string theory to rapidly decay in our 4-dimensional
Universe by means of the large extra dimension concept known as "brane worlds".
So let's say the graviton has a certain frequency. The only way say it could end up as a microwave
as claimed by Lazar is for the gravitons mass to decay with distance. The trouble is that is there is no
reason for a graviton to say stop its decay process at a few centimeters. While Lazar hates anti-gravity,
gravitons, and extra dimensions, those theories are the only theories in present Science that exist which
could support the wild claims he has made. If Lazar would have said the gravity amplifiers put out a
power of, say, 400 megaawatts a second (this is just a random out put number I picked), then you could
check the graviton "mass" frequency with the power out put of the field to check for self consistencies in
Lazar's descriptions. But you can not.
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Using the string theory analogy also suggest that when a graviton decays through space it would also
lose much of its magnitude. Thus you would expect the microwave "graviton" frequency to be
infinitesimal and not useful for anything. Furthermore from Relativity theory, we would also expect
matter to be transparent to gravity waves and so simply should not be cable of following waveguides!
Just think about it. If matter could block or confine gravity, then the mass of the Earth couldn't hold
your feet to the ground. But it does in reality. So you would also expect gravity waves to go straight
through a waveguide and not follow one as claimed by Lazar. In short, the waveguide could be only
using electromagnetic waves, which more-or-less destroy the rest of the claims made be Lazar.
Like I said before, there are a great many things you can tweak to make the story sound slightly
more plausible. But that is not Science. For me to continue, I have to do things like say what his
science means. For example, if gravity waves effect an electron's movement, you could do a test for that
to prove of disprove what Lazar is saying.
Lazar's claims don't allow for that. The only numbers you can derive is what I did with the reactor
wave claimed by Lazar. Even if you assume Lazar was telling the truth, then there were vast areas
where he was plainly ignorant and should not have been in such a program to begin with, not alone
obtained degrees in physics which he claimed (which from the his own use of language suggest he has
no real understanding). Nothing he says is verifiable mathematically. Nor does any of things he says is
self verifiable. There is no solid science to his story PERIOD!
The only reason I did the tweaking that I did was to see if there were any hidden nuggets in the story
[to say he *might* have been an electronic guy that lied on his resume and ended up where he shouldn't
have been], I found nothing. If anything, I found that tweaking the story to make more scientific sense
caused the claims he made to grow further apart rather than come together.
--Edward Halerewicz, Jr.
Truss Technician/Independent Researcher
http://da_theoretical1.tripod.com/index.htm
S-671. from Ed Halerewicz regarding Lazar and Corso
From: "Edward Halerewicz, Jr." <halgravity@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Fri, September 22, 2006 3:33 pm
Subject: SM and gravitons
I somehow lost your response on the Bob saga. All I remember is that you made some connection to
gravitons and the Standard Model. Bob also tried that and that's completely ####### wrong!
Gravitons have nothing to do with the Standard Model at all. Stephen Weinberg -- the particle
physicists who coined the "SM" -- even has a book on gravitation where he is genuinely perplexed by
the fact that the gravitational force seems to have zero effect on particle interactions. So I felt very
strongly motivated to point that misconception out as it's how you can spot charlatans.
You also said that Mr. Lazar may not have gave a damn about real physics if he was a "tech guy" as
you yourself basically had the same kind of feeling with your own graduate modelings in nuclear
engineering. To a point, I can see that in nuclear physics, there are number of "fudge numbers" that
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have been threw in the equations that were not derived from scientific principles but observed facts that
could not be entirely explained with existing theory. So I can understand that.
However, my real beef is Mr. Lazar has claimed to be a physicist -- not a tech guy. He also claimed
to have a stronger background education than I have at the moment. And yet my little pinky knows
more about physics than Lazar does! Hell, I never even seen a single equation on his sites or videos
which makes me question his claimed background even further. And I was not even looking at things
such as was he at such-and-such place blah-blah... But whether -or-not does the things he says makes
sense with someone who has a background in physics. And he clearly does not. How can you believe
someone that by others' study has lied about his education and who his self-admitted friends identify
him as a bullshitter?
Now on a similar note, while I find it hard to believe Mr. Lazar, I really do believe that Philip Corso
was exactly who he said he was. There were some flaws in The Day After Roswell book, But that may
have had more to do with how the co-author wrote it and how it may have been edited. If for example,
there was a taped interview of Corso, I would probably be inclined to believe that what was said was
true. At least as far as he remembered things.
But Lazar claiming to be a physicist and knowing nothing of the subject, I have a big, Big problem
with. Interestingly enough, the co-author (William Birnes) was recently on C2C, saying he "flawed"
some things. And he was also trying to compare that story with Lazar's. One problem I had with
Corso's claim about ET was "no apparent digestive system + long distance between stars = built robots
to pilot the craft". Well from biology class, I remember my instructor saying that if you could find a
way for humans to use photosynthesis, you would be a billionaire as it is a less wasteful way of
generating energy than ordinary digestion.
Also there is the fact that with Relativity theory, you can go anywhere in the Universe without aging
if you travel at fast enough speeds. I also had problems with his claims of things that we got lasers from
the "crash". One thing is that Einstein along with a guy name Bose (whom bosons are named in honor
of) theorized about in the 1920s-or-so is that such a craft -- if it existed -- would well fit within our
current theories and only be a few decades ahead of present tech. That suggest had the Dark Ages never
happened, we would have visited their civilization first.
Back to the co-author... He then tried to claim Lazar's instantaneous travel UFO (which I suggested
wouldn't be how it would actually travel if it *was* real) was tied to Corso's description. I don't buy that
all as Corso was implying that it would take eons to get here and is why the beings were allegedly
"engineered". Then he went on to say something like there was a connection between the UFO method
of flight and time travel which -- if memory serves -- you have yourself made mention of in the past.
Now Lazar also claimed something like that by claiming a time shift on the "reactor" while in
operation. There could be a tie in principle as anti-gravity by nature would speed time up. This is
because normal gravity tends to slow time down with increasing mass. Corso differs here because from
what I remember of the book, he claimed the propulsion system was tied with magnetism. This is
something that can be easily rejected if you know the strength of the Earth's magnetic field and a number
of other factors. I may look into these things from time-to-time to see if there is any nugget in them.
But I still remain a good skeptic. If I wasn't, then I would buy into everything I don't.
Hell, I'm even skeptical of the proclamations of skeptics when their statements our on supported by
the facts. Now if you look at the Lazar story, there is no way the alleged physics could be so highly
flawed if he had the background he claimed. Corso's story, however, the military in the 1940s probably
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didn't have the understanding of latest physics that were discussed at the Princeton Institute of Advanced
Study. The only physics they were interested in at the time was nuclear for obvious reasons.
Corso's story -- if flawed -- is understandable and could be true. But its off and as such is hard to
take at face value. Nothing about Lazar's story really makes sense. To be honest, I wonder if he just
claimed all that he did so he could start up the company that he did and some poor fools might have
thought he knew enough about physics for such a company.
--Edward Halerewicz, Jr.
Truss Technician/Independent Researcher
http://da_theoretical1.tripod.com/index.htm
S-672. from Paul Devine regarding physics "mainstreamers"
From: "paul devine" <grandfatherpaul@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Tue, September 26, 2006 6:27 pm
Subject: Your "mainstreamers" message and what I was going to say about Corso
Mark,
1. Well, your "Mainstreamers" message arrived before I could get down my own thoughts on Corso, etc.
In no particular order …
2. At the end of your missive, you appear to be equating consciousness with the Law of the
Conservation of Energy. I don't follow. [StealthSkater note: if consciousness is a quantum
waveform, then it is energy. And energy can neither be created nor destroyed (merely
transformed). So that might be an avenue to bolster Life-after-Death and eternity forever in the
MultiVerse. Of course, what type(s) of an eternity is part of the puzzle.]
3. RE Jack Sarfatti and Ed Halerewicz on physics versus intrusive biological experimentation: They are
physicists. Therefore they are at their best when they criticize Lazar when he appears to be talking
about physics. But outside of their own areas, they are as fallible as anyone else. This could account for
the radical difference in their common attitude towards claims that are not limited to physics.
4. Now as to Birnes: That part of the C2C interview which I heard had nothing to do with what Birnes
may or may not have done with-or-without Corso's son. The part of the interview that I heard consisted
mostly of Birnes publicizing claims that Birnes says Corso made. The rest was BIrnes saying that the
mistakes in the book were due to the consequences of the poor state of Corso's health -- to wit, that
Corso was dying; that Corso knew he was dying; and that the results showed in the book.
What Birnes meant was the well-known phenomenon that in hindsight, it can be perceived that some
people have been dying for years before they actually pass on. The slow progression of the process of
dying shows up in mistakes people make. Birnes said that Corso -- with the help of Birnes, had Corso
lived long enough -- would have rectified the errors in the book. An ex-Army man -- a Colonel named
John B. Alexander and also a past C2C guest -- has already said pretty much the same thing. Had Corso
lived long enough, then Alexander would have worked with Corso to eradicate the errrors in the book. I
accept both statements.
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5. But here is how I know that Corso is telling the truth. One of the statements made by Birnes about
Corso has Corso recounting an exchange which came to his knowledge between Hoover and Johnson
over the weekend after the murder of President Kennedy in Dallas. According to Birnes, Corso had
Hoover claiming to Johnson that there had been a second Lee Harvey Oswald. And then Johnson
claiming to Hoover that Yes! he Johnson already knew that.
Now this fact has been vociferously denied by the Government because it would imply conspiracy.
(It would also imply that Hoover and Johnson had covered up said conspiracy!) But the fact is that there
was a second Lee Harvey Oswald. (It is very easy to prove this, by the way, on the basis of what we
know now.) Not only was there at least one other "Lee Harvey Oswald", but there also may have been
several others as well. Yet, very few people seem to know this, at least in part for the reason given
above (people won't believe anything unless the Government says so!)
6. And so, if Corso was telling the truth about something like this -- and it takes courage to stake out a
position like this! -- then I am willing to believe him about the rest of it as long as Corso is speaking or
writing from his own personal experience. (Recall the comment above about a witness speaking on the
basis of second-hand evidence where the witness himself is not "best evidence", as they say in the law.)
You have to distinguish between what Corso testified to from his own personal knowledge and the
conclusions he drew -- or the inferences he made -- therefrom.
In the latter, Corso could be wrong. Indeed, he arguably was wrong -- at least from time-to-time!
But in the former, I am willing to believe him (when I cannot check what he is saying) on the basis of
the quote about the weekend after the Kennedy assassination (where I do know enough in order to be
able to "control" what Corso is reported to have said and heard). You also, of course, have to make
allowances for the effect that the ongoing process of dying was having on Corso on his memory, etc.
7. And another point: My civilian acquaintance -- my source for the information to you about the
"Garnet" Berets, and about MAJ-12 -- saw a TV documentary on Corso which basically stated that
Corso was a liar because a mere Lt. Colonel could not possibly have found himself in Corso's position.
My civilian acquaintance -- who has studied the American military for decades -- laughs and snorts and
scoffs at such claims. He says -- and quite rightly so -- that American Lt. Colonels can easily find
themselves in Corso's positrion.
After all, just look at Tom Bearden. Bearden has approximately Corso's rank. And look at what
Bearden has done! And John Alexander (see above) was a Colonel, probably having therefore passed
through the rank of Lt. Colonel. And finally, I know a Marine Corps Lt. Colonel who has undertaken a
mission to Russia on his own!
In addition, Corso -- by his own account -- was working under instructions from a General Trudeau.
And being able to throw around the name of a General can open all kinds of doors!
8. Finally, there is the claim that all the things that Corso claims were the products of back-engineering
alien technology were in reality all terrestrial inventions. Well, it is always possible that human
ingenuity was on the brink of making some of these discoveries, anyway. It is also possible that the
engineers were simply telling Corso what they thought Trudeau wanted to hear!
But here is the main thing. The important thing in work like this is to get the inventor-of-record to
think that the idea was his own. They call this "seduction" in psychology! Corso's job was quite
arguably to find a company -- and scientists -- close enough already that they could be nudged in the
right direction the rest of the way. This provides the "plausible deniability" (as it were) later on in case
things go wrong and word gets out about the real origin of all this.
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This is clearly what happened. After all, the American Credo during all those years was the
superiority of the American System. We wanted people to believe that all these inventions were the
product of American ingenuity, nourished by First World Capitalism in a Free Market Economy. What
would it do to the image of America abroad if it turned out that these inventions had been handed to us
on a silver platter by aliens and had had nothing to do with the American Way of Life?! (And why did
the aliens choose to give this stuff to us in the second place after having already given some of it to Nazi
Germany in the first place, if the stories are correct? Did they know something about the Future that the
rest of us did not as yet know?)
9. And on the subject of the "leavings" that the aliens have deposited with us, you may rest solemnly
assured that they would never use Earth as a dumping ground for the best of their stuff. Let me give you
examples from recent world history.
The shorter and simpler example is that of the American Government itself. The American
Government sells arms abroad. But the Government always keeps the best stuff at home. The
Government never willingly lets this stuff out of their hands (for reasons which are rather obvious, I
would imagine). (And I expect the aliens are at least as clever as the American Government.)
An example even more to the point is provided by the Third Reich in the Balkans in the Spring of
1941. Hitler had been supplying weaponry to the Balkans for years. But it was always second-best
stuff, of course! He also supplied the Balkan countries with ammunition for the weapons he sold them.
Then when it came time to invade the Balkans, Hitler simply cut off supplies. The Balkan countries
were left with stocks and supplies on hand to fend off the Wehrmacht. When stocks and supplies on
hand ran out for the second-best equipment, it was "kaput" for the Balkans! (But the Balkan countries
got their revenge. The few weeks that Hitler delayed in the Balkans in the Spring of 1941 pushed back
the Nazi invasion of Russia by the same amount of time. As a result, the Nazis were not able to reach
Moscow and occupy it before the onset of "Mother Winter", which came early that year for the Nazis,
stranded out in the middle of nowhere with no winter clothing because they had thought they were going
to be home by Christmas! Hitler lost a million men due to Russia's "Mother Winter" in the first winter
of the War. As a result, he lost the War!)
As applied to the aliens, the stuff they leave here is arguably their own second-best stuff. As such, it
might be closer to the mental level of us terrestrians. And therefore, it might be easier for us to back-
engineer. Enough said? Point made? [StealthSkater note: I had heard rumors that the ET science
and manufacturing is in fact centuries beyond ours. For example, they don't build their machines
-- they "grow" them. The challenge in a reverse-engineering program -- which they reportedly
oversaw -- was to incorporate those segments of their technologies which might be able to fit into
our present-day. It was as much of a challenge for them as it was for us.]
10. Oh, and one other thing regarding the business of never knowing the truth in our lifetimes. I think
that the decision of the Italians and the Brazilians to tell the truth about the UFO phenomenon takes the
pressure off of us, to be exclusively dependent on the American Government for our knowledge. If the
Americans will not tell us the truth, then ignore them and stick with the governments of those countries
that will tell us the truth. It's also what John Kennedy wanted to do before he was killed. He believed
we could handle the truth. I think he was right.
11. Points (4) through (9) constitute what I was going to say to you on my own before your message
about the "mainstreamers" arrived.
--- Paul ---
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S-673. from Paul Devine regarding Consciousness
From: "paul devine" <grandfatherpaul@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Mon, October 16, 2006 4:56 pm
Subject: Consciousness # 1
Mark,
I delayed responding to your "Consciousness" ideas, because I have been away from
philosophy/metaphysics/theology for a long time , and could not really relate your ideas to my own. But
here goes :
1. The souls is supposed to be immaterial, mass-less. [StealthSkater note: Why? What doctor or
physicist said that? If you can't measure something, then it remains an unexplained mystery to
our senses.]
2. Consciousness is supposed to be a faculty of this mass-less, immaterial soul.
3. Therefore the "Law for the Conservation of Energy " should not apply to the human soul.
Question: How, then, does "Kram" relate all this to the Conservation of Energy?
Comment : I finally remembered some work which claimed to show that the soul had weight. This
demonstration resulted from an experiment which allegedly showed the body of a dying human person
losing weight immediately after death. The mass loss was measurable, although not very great.
Unfortunately, this reported measurement turned out not to be repeatable or reproducible. (This may
have been a "Hot Story" on C2C not very long ago.)
Further : Well, then, how does Paul see consciousness?
Answer : Paul sees consciousness in terms of a binary relationship. If you must relate this to any area
of modern knowledge, then you might relate it to logic. Modern mathematical or symbolic logic (if I
recall correctly -- I have been away from these subjects for a long time also!) devote part of themselves
to the study of binary relationships. In a binary relationship, 2 things are inter-related or inter-
connected.
And in an act of consciousness, 2 things are also inter-connected or inter-related. (1) There is the
knower. And (2) there is the object of the knowledge or the thing known, that of which one is
conscious.
I'm afraid that is about all that "Consciousness" means to me for the purposes of the present discussion.
--- Paul ---
[StealthSkater note: I'm trying to relate Consciousness to Life-after-Death and eternal life. If
Consciousness is some form of energy waveform, then it can never be destroyed (only
manipulated, transformed) due to the Law of Energy Conservations. I wonder how this
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waveform (call it a pure "soul" if you will) gets transplanted into a physiological lifeform (a la
Dan Burisch's "Ganesh particle"). And what about a "Super Consciousness" or collection of
souls such as in Star Trek's "Q-continuum"?]
S-674. from Ed Halerewicz regarding basic Quantum physics
From: "Edward Halerewicz, Jr." <halgravity@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Tue, October 17, 2006 5:24 pm
Subject: Re: questions, questions, ... and more questions
-- kram@stealthskater.com wrote:
> I recalled an interview with Hugh Downs when he was asked to name his 10 most exciting
interviews. One was with Stephen Hawking. Downs' IQ earned him a membership in
MENSA. But he nevertheless admitted to Hawking that while he understood Special
Relativity, he had difficulty with General Relativity. Hawking said that for him, it was
exactly the opposite. GR was relatively straight-forward but it was the subtle stuff of SR that
he was having difficulty with.
>
> I had some free time at work, so I did a Goggle on "special relativity" "easy" OR "Simple"
<= . (The added terms were to give me a simplified layman's explanation.) What I retrieved
reminded me of that sophomore "modern physics" I took in 1968 from Dr. Treat. There were
all these so-called Lorentz-Einstein transformations in moving reference frames. I was able
to solve the problems okay, but it was the implications of the results that were stumping me.
Perhaps Hawking meant the same thng when talking to Downs.
>
> I have always had trouble with concepts such as in physics. It must be a personal
shortcoming which I just can't overcome. And yet I have no trouble with designing a nuclear
reactor (based on extremely simplified models that lend well to experimental parameter
regressions). I can grasp those concepts well and the math -- while it can be challenging in
places -- is manageable. Why slowing down neutrons (a neutral particle) increases their
likelihood of striking a target nucleus (a positive mass) ... those type of questions bother me
but their answers are not necessary for engineering. So I have to re-emphasize this
shortcoming to beg for the patience of experts (like yourself) in these fields.
>
> It's still hard for me to think of "time" as a dimension. And yet the SR & GR experiments
seem to validate that. I had trouble with the Google explanations when they said part of the
problem was that there never was an "at rest" inertial frame in the Universe. Baloney, says
me. Just define one by definition. What's the big deal? Make negative time if you have to.
They make imaginary numbers and exotic matter to fit their models.
>
> It seems like the gist of it is one observer in a slow-moving frame sees the mass and length
change in another in a very fast moving frame. Now when he slows down, son-of-a-gun! the
mass and length revert back. So was it "real" or just some sort of mathematical illusion? If
the former, it would seem to imply that living processes (cell division, consciousness q-bits)
are independent of size. Which doesn't make sense.
>
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> But it appears that time really does change (irreversibly) for fast-moving frames. Repeated
mention was made of the experiment with the 2 atomic clocks -- one on ground and the other
in a high-flying airplane. There was a difference in times when the plane landed. Another
example was given of muons entering the Earth's atmosphere. Because of their short life,
they shouldn't exist long enough to hit the surface. But they do. It was the "slowing down"
of their internal clock due to their relativistic speeds that caused this.
>
> So that's no "illusion" like mass or length. Maybe in the case of mass, the decreased
energy is transferred back into the ZPE field or somewhere. Then the mass increase would
be real and last long enough to hit a target in a particle accelerator. Its increased energy
seems to be kinetic in nature and is caused by accelerating charged particles by
electromagnetism. (How they accelerate a neutral neutron, I have no clue.) Apparently
simply causing a particle to move faster increases its mass. I know the equations. But I can't
see the picture of what is going on in a fundamental way. How is energy being converted
into mass? What is the reaction?
>
> I had read where some people were saying that time regression does not happen to
biological processes (meaning that someone would actually biologically age at the normal
rate despite traveling near the SOL). Could an experiment be designed to replace the atomic
clocks with a Petri dish of bacteria? It should be easy to measure the culture growth rates at
rest and at high speed. If it does change, then the hard part comes next which is what baffles
me (and maybe Hawking). What is the reaction? Write it on a blackboard. Not the math,
but the physio-chemical cellular reactions. Something *concrete* has to be happening at the
most basic level.
>
> I did read quotes from Einstein where he regarded "time" as some sort of an illusion. You
and I talked about that before. Of course, there are other "alt" theories concerning the nature
of time including more
> dimensions of time. I'm trying to reconcile these matters with things I can touch, see, feel,
and measure.
>
> All I remember from the introductory "Modern Physics" course were the SR stuff and an
introduction to quantum theory. Things like electrons don't occupy any arbitrary orbit. They
jump around only by absorbing "quanta" of energy. (And yet the Heisenberg Uncertainty
Principle seems to say that one can never know where an electron is. Implying that it can be
in so-called forbidden zones. So I don't know who's right.) It was here that I was introduced
to Planck's constant 'h' and 'h-bar'.
>
> I can't recall hearing of anything called a 'strong nuclear force' or 'weak nuclear force'. Nor
do I recall anything about energy levels inside a nucleus. And I most certaintly never heard
of Planck time (10^-43 sec) or length (10^-33 m). Those rail against my common sense. It
would seem that time and length should be infinitely variable. I'm surprised that there is no
Planck unit of mass. I never heard anything about "statistical mechanics" in that course
either.
>
> One time I asked "Dr. Ark" about the size of a black hole. I had read somewhere that the
event horizon of a supermassive black hole could be so many miles around while it was
really small for normal black holes. But he evaded the question by asking me what did I
mean by "size". Is he drunk? What the hell does he think I mean by "size". It should be a
simple enough question to answer. I think that's why people -- perhaps in a fit of
unreasonable exasperation -- think physicists have no clue as to what they're talking about.
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Both sides need to learn from experiences like than. The layman has to be constantly
reinforced with the notion that despite his best efforts, some things are just out of his grasp
and will forever be so. It is not so much a personal defect as much as realizing the limits of
one's own thinking processes. The other side needs to be schooled in better "bedside
manners" which would make their jobs of acquring funding from non-military sectors more
easy. … … … …
Hello Mark,
Interesting. I think General Relativity is easier to understand over Special Relativity in general as
well. But the math from SR is much easier to follow than for GR. The reason in my mind is that it is
easy to understand how curved space can curve light. But it is hard to imagine that objects can shrink
just by "accelerating". There is also reason for that as well GR includes SR, but not the other way
around even through SR was discovered first. I also got news that Hawking will be in a new film
shortly. I suspect it is an update to Stephen Hawking's Universe. And for the first time, I think
Hawking will talk about string theory for the first time.
You can just a zero or rest frame with the Big Bang. In theory, the expanding universe is just like
the expanding surface of a balloon when inflated. There is no center, no rest frame. The rest frame
would be what is within the balloon. The problem with the Big Bang is that the only thing that exists is
the surface. As for "negative time", it exists. Hawking calls it "imaginary time". But it is only valid
with mathematics that use complex (a+ib form) equations -->Quantum Mechanics. In real space where
normal calculus lives, there is no imaginary time. The result is thus that things can appear to "quantum
tunnel" and such. And that is why Classical Mechanics can not explain Quantum Mechanics.
As for not understanding all of Physics from your point-of-view, I can understand where you come
from as I have always had problems with General Chemistry (probably because the formulas where not
derived, it's just hey! this is what happens in lab) but no problems with the quantum or nuclear aspects
of Chemistry. As for "Planck mass", there is such a thing. It has a mass of roughly 1x10-8 kg -- pretty
massive when compared to a proton! But as you have noted in general, I have problems with the
concept of Planck time, length, density, mass, and temperature as they are artificial constructs built by
simply throwing physical constants together without hard science to back it up.
Dr. Ark didn't know what the size of a black hole is? He must not really be a doctor then. The
equation is r=2GM/c2. The size of the event horizon has everything to do with the mass of the object.
For the Earth, it would be a few centimeters (something like 2.4 cm, but I don't it exactly off hand). For
the Sun, it would be something like a kilometer. For a super massive black, it could be several, several
miles. The bare minimum requirement for a genuine black hole to form is that it must have 3 times the
massive of the Sun when it implodes. Otherwise you have neutron or dwarf stars. The fact that Ark
could not answer that simple question is alarming, its probably one of the easiest things to calculate in
GR.
As per Brian Greene, I think you already know how I feel about his "theories". You are right that
string dimensions could go to zero. They are just boundaries they put on the equations, which say that
nothing under the Plank length (as defined from our Universe) can exist in 4 dimensions. There are
many problems that I have with string theory. And this is one of them.
As for the North Korea thing, I feel that is overblown as well. You only test bombs that you don't
know will work or how much yield they give. Working designs do not need to be tested. The whole
story about Korea seems fishy to me. But only time will tell on that. Time is short for me now, and I
don't really have much to comment on the other things that you have brought up.
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--Edward Halerewicz, Jr.
Truss Technician/Independent Researcher
http://da_theoretical1.tripod.com/index.htm
S-675. from Ed Halerewicz regarding basic Relativity
From: "Edward Halerewicz, Jr." <halgravity@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Tue, October 17, 2006 5:43 pm
Subject: addendum to "questions, questions, ..."
--- kram@stealthskater.com wrote:
> Forgot to add these to my previous e-mail ...
>
> Regarding Hawking's misgivings with Special Relativity, maybe he was talking about that
the speed-of-light is a constant in all reference frames (moving or not). I have much trouble
with understanding the "why" of that myself.
>
> I've seemed to come across 2 interpretations of the following example. Only one can be
right, so I must be misreading the other. If a stationary observer watches a man trying to
catch up to a beam of light, supposedly the observer sees the man never quite reaching the
end of the beam no matter how fast he goes. But from the man's point-of-view, the beam
passes him as if he were at rest.
>
> I'm confused. It would make more sense if the observer sees the same thing as the man.
Both can't be right, else the argument could be made that we can't trust what our eyes are
reporting to our brains. And wouldn't that cause turmoil in the court system.
>
> I'm interested in the "why" the speed-of-light is a constant no matter how fast one travels.
It's actually MORE than that, however. That statement is saying that light acts as if it is
impervious to our existence in the same reference frame. Almost as if it is vibrating from a
5th dimension as Kaku suggested in his book Hyperspace. I can accept the SOL as a
universal "speed limit". That suggests that we can slowly catch up to a beam of light. But if
the beam still passes by at "c" no matter how hard we try, that's the part that I'm having
trouble with justifying in a physical sense. The "why", if you will. Is this some fundamental
interaction with the Zero-Point Energy substrate? I can solve the Lorentz equations; but I
don't understand the "why" behind them.
>
> And those equations say it would take an infinite mass to achieve lightspeed "c". And yet
the particles that travel at light-speed -- photons, neutrinos, etc. -- all have some small-but-
measurable mass. Why? I thought you had to have infinite mass to travel at "c".
>
> Of course, there are those who say whenever physicists don't understand something, they
always add another dimension. Kaku himself says that the laws of nature are simpler in
higher dimensions. But just because the mathematical models are simpler doesn't mean that
higher dimensions actually exist. Bearden said that any time higher degrees-of-freedom are
added, math solutions always are simpler. If one is using these models for engineering
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purposes rather than to search for a philosophical truth, that is fine and dandy. Make a
nuclear reactor model have 100 dimensions if it results in a better design according to our
math models. I don't care about whether they actually exist.
>
> It's ironic that mainstream science seems to tolerate notions of higher dimensions while it
rails against concepts such as Bearden's scalar waves. A more neutral observer might quip
that both concepts are "far out" without a shred of experimental evidence. And yet one is
embraced while the other is is disgraced.
> When I had strange visit with Dr. Treat, I ended up trying to talk about superstrings. As I
told you, apparently he had done some considerable work on the Yang-Mills model. But he
didn't seem at all interested in the subject nor in receiving the excerpts from Kaku's book. I
thought it strange that a particle physicist would not keep on all the latest developments.
Perhaps he was trying to get me out of there (before he would have to report to National
Security as Sarfatti suggested) and it had nothing to do with interest-or-no interest in
superstrings. I made some remark about some of these physicists seem to have big egos. He
was quick to give me a disapproving nod of agreement on that.
>
> There is some mathematical function (Fourier transform?) that says that waveforms are
sums of individual sine waves of different frequencies and amplitudes. And the textbooks
stress that this is not arbitrary but actual because electronic filters can be put in the circuit to
trap these individual sine waves, thus confirming there existence. Well, I can generate an
arbitrary periodic waveform just by "riding the gain" (i.e., manually varying the voltage
potentiometer control). So I know I'm not creating any of these secondary waves whose
summation goes into the overall waveform. But I'll take their word for it that appropriate
filters would show their existence. Since I know I didn't create them, I can't understand how
they exist unless it's by some weird mechanism of Mother Nature. Maybe the same thing
could be said for understanding Relativity and "time" in general. Maybe our math models
are limited by our natural physical senses. Maybe Bearden is on to something when he
speaks of "imperceptibles".
>
> Unlike the U.S., Russia's attitude toward UFO witnesses seems to be saying "we believe
that you are honestly reporting what you feel you saw". This further supports the argument
that governments know what the "UFO" enigma really is. And it doesn't seem to be a
national security problem that would cause buildup in forces, etc. Pilots are told to "just keep
an eye on them". No big deal. But it would seem to have resulted in an abrupt moratorium
on nuke tests. It also appears that the Dept. of Energy (the old Atomic Energy Commission)
is the primary caretaker of all UFO reports.
>
> I am leaning more towards "timeline" perturbations (which is even more radical a concept
that UFOs). Did any more come out of Peter Lynds' remarks about the nature of "time"
(http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Lynds_01.doc ) ? I see a lot of activity in certain
physics camps on researching consciousness and remote-viewing. They aren't wasting their
time with what we call "UFOs". "Where there's smoke, there's usually fire." Tie that in with
the nuke moratorium and maybe it gives more credence to what Montauk's (admittedly
discredited) Preston Nichols says that past tinkering has led to what appears to be an
irreversible time-loop. I wonder if physical death leading to the afterlife can escape that
consequence or not. Just believing it would does not make it happen. Belief just calms our
most fundamental fears.
>
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> Lots of questions ... but alas not many answers. Maybe it's just as well. There are lots of
critical issues (such as overpopulation and energy) that need our intellectual attention. I
suppose it's just part of Mankind's exploring nature to "climb a mountain just because it is
there".
The Relativity problems …
Well, more-or-less what you described. The 2 frames are indeed valid according to modern
textbooks. When you speed up, time slows down. So even though you are about to catch the beam,
when the light waves enter your frame, they slow down. Thus the light beam "stretches", and so the
speed-of-light seems to be the same for both observers. As for the courts, eyewitness testimony is
usually considered untrustworthy. But juries love it.
Yes, photons do have a small-but-non zero mass and seem to defy Relativity. But that realization
came only after the Theory of Relativity was proposed. It is a problem that particle physicists are aware
of. But in general, most relativists ignore the problem all together. It's just the best idea that they have
that can explain 1-or-2 things seen in lab. It just, however, fails for the third thing. In general,
skepticism in Science is a good thing. But as in many things in life, majority rule often overrules
common sense.
--Edward Halerewicz, Jr.
Truss Technician/Independent Researcher
http://da_theoretical1.tripod.com/index.htm
S-676. from Paul Devine regarding writing noted scientists
From: "paul devine" <grandfatherpaul@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Sat, November 4, 2006 5:54 pm
Subject: RE Latest from Greer : # 1 --- Witten and Kaku
Mark,
1. I was struck by your mention of Ed Witten and of Kaku in your last e-mail.
2. A question: What did you use for contact information in reaching out to Ed Witten?
3. Some information about Ed Witten. He was one of the last research students of Albert Einstein,=
before the latter's 1955 death. This would make Witten to be pushing on towards being 80 years old. At
that age, he is not going to be answering very many messages. To make matters worse, Witten -- by
default -- has come to be seen in the light of being a kind of "heir apparent" to Einstein. Under the
circumstances, Witten will likely have precious little time for answering messages.
4. An experience with Michio Kaku … A few years ago, Kaku gave a talk here in Madison, Wisconsin.
After the talk, Kaku explicitly invited me to send him a paper I had written. I sent the paper. Kaku
never so little as acknowledged receipt of the thing! An acquaintance of mine suggested that Kaku
simply wanted to get my name in writing so that he could look up my name in Who's Who. If Kaku had
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found my name in Who's Who, then he might have acknowledged receipt of my sending. But I am not
in Who's Who. Therefore, he did not even do so little as to acknowledge receipt.
5 . A moral: Don't be offended by lack of responsiveness from such people as Kaku, Witten, and others.
Don't take it personally. Don't let your feelings be hurt. If it would not have harmed these people to
answer you and if they could easily have answered you -- but yet they did not answer you -- then that
"monkey" is on their collective "back" as the expression goes. If their real motive for not answering is
the motive attributed to Kaku, then "Consider the source!" as another expression goes.
--- Paul ---
S-677. from Paul Devine regarding the latest from Dr. Steven Greer
From: "paul devine" <grandfatherpaul@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Sat, November 4, 2006 5:55 pm
Subject: RE Latest from Greer :# 2 (McClendon& Clinton ,Carter & the mad Pole ,JFK &
UFOs,HCM)
Mark,
The Greer article [http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Disclosure_02.doc ] came as nothing
new to me. A few points …
1. Greer's reference to ending up like Jack Kennedy if the President tried to exert executive authority and
make it all public on his own initiative.
Well, we have seen this before. Such names as those of "Grace" and " Valerian" (for example) come
to mind, do they not? And remember Bill Clinton's refusal to use his own executive authority to make
all this public in his comment to the great Sarah McClendon (that I shared with you earlier) in which
Clinton told her that "There is a hidden government in this Country. And I -- Bill Clinton -- am not in
charge of it" *. And recall Jimmy Carter's refusal to make public the UFO-related information after he
got into the Oval Office even though he had run on the platform of making all this public after he won
(if he won). (The "mad Pole " himself -- said to have been a " UFO insider " -- seems to have gotten to
Carter in the meantime!) **
2.The reference to the involvement of groups that -- while non-govermental -- still have strong
governmental connections is nothing new. Hugh McDonald -- in his 1975 book (APPOINTMENT IN
DALLAS: & ; I sent you an excerpt from it some time ago *** ) reports an interview with "Carrion" --
one of the CIA's hired assassins left over from the (April, 1961) Bay of Pigs operation -- who was one of
the multiple assassins who actually did fire down on the President that day in Dallas.
McDonald, naturally, wants to know who was behind the assassination. Who recruited "Carrion"?
And who paid him? The answer of "Carrion" ( as reported by McDonald ) was that the people behind
the assassination -- who recruited "Carrion " as far as "Carrion" was able to tell -- appeared to him
"Carrion" to be a group which -- while it was a non-governmental group -- was a group which also had
strong governmental connections. And this was in 1962!
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3. The reference to the fact of "bugs" on Greer's telephone and in his room. Again, this is nothing new.
Back to McDonald's 1975 book! At one point in that book, McDonald wants to talk to CIA Herman
Kimsey about Dallas out loud in Kimsey's own office in CIA headquarters. Kimsey refuses to talk out
loud. McDonald couldn't believe that the Agency would "bug" the office of one of its own agents! This
could have been as early as 1964!
4. So you see, there is really nothing new in anything that Greer says. It was obviously new to Greer at
the time -- and possibly new to yourself as well -- but it's a case of " been there, done that, and of "Deja
vu all over again " (in the words of that immortal philosopher, Mr. Yogi Berra!). I personally believe
Greer. There is every reason to believe him and no reason not to believe him!
-- Paul --
PS: * The exchange between Sarah McClendon and Bill Clinton was in my Jan. 26, 2006 e-mail with "
Sarah McClendon / hidden gov't. / Bill Clinton / UFOs/" for the title.
PPS: ** I cannot find the material on Carter. However, some material relative to "the mad Pole" is at
my "WIFOTH # 6 - Of Politicians and UFOs " Feb. 1, 2006 e-mail.
PPPS: *** The excerpt from McDonald's 1975 book was an attachment to two June 27, 2006 e-mails
that I sent you with "To 'Lazar ' Hugh C. McDonald" and "Hugh C. McDonald rejects the' Were We
Controlled?' Scenario of CIA Herman Kimsey" for titles. I fid not include the above materials in this
earlier sending. If you want it, then let me know and I will see if I can find it.
S-678. from Mike D'Agostino regarding induction fields
From: "mangomike1@yahoo.com" <mangomike1@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Thu, November 16, 2006 11:35 am
Subject: another good source of tech news
Hi Mark and Friend unknown,
Appreciated the wireless power article by BBC. Thanks.
Another source of accurate technical information on the cutting-edge technology is the IQ news net.
The URL is http://www.iqnewsnet.com/.
Regarding the BBC article, the technology described is based on a well-known effect called
"induction". The nice thing about induction fields is energy is not lost or radiated beyond its field.
Which makes it very practical. The physical size of the field I would imagine would depend on the
frequency. Higher frequencies, smaller field; Lower frequencies, larger fields.
Regarding very exotic field propulsion (i.e., UFO). I always assumed a type of induction field
enclosed on itself like a type of standing wave. Virtual enclosure would be very effective. This kind of
field wouldn't radiate either. So nothing would be lost through entropy.
Again, thanks. Best Regards
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-- Mike
S-679. from Mike D'Agostino regarding Anti-Gravity
To: "Mangomike1" <mangomike1@yahoo.com>
From: "Dave" <metro@ij.net>
Date: Tue, December 5, 2006 9:33 pm
Subject: Anti Gravity
When time permits, click on recent article in the 3rd paragraph.
--Dave.
Anti-Gravity
In March of this year, the European Space Agency announced that Dr. Tajmar (ARC Seibersdorf
Research GmbH, Austria) and colleagues and Dr. Clovis de Matos (ESA-HQ) Paris had succeeded in
creating artificial gravity in their laboratory. This new chapter on gravity could "form the basis for a
new technological domain" according to its discoverers. The discovery was guaranteed to create
controversy in physics circles. And it has not disappointed.
Just as a moving electrical charge creates a magnetic field, a rotating superconductor generates a
gravitomagnetic field as predicted by Einstein's Theory of General Relativity (GR). However, GR
predicts that the gravitomagnetic effect is virtually negligible (less than one part in a trillion).
"Magical" Physics
Physics Magic: Invisibility
Theorized by established scientists since:
1940s - negative refraction material
1960s - metamaterials
2003 - invisibility barrier
Contradicts: Index of Refraction, or right -handedness
Amazes: Our very eyes
Physics Magic: Anti-Gravity (modified gravity)
Theorized by established scientists since:
Late 1800s - co-gravitational force
1989 - Cooper-pair anomaly
Contradicts: Aspects of General Relativity
Amazes: Our sense of what is UP
Physics Magic: Perpetual motion (over-unity)
Theorized by established scientists since:
(Nnone notable)
Contradicts: Conservation of energy
Amazes: Our expectation of entropy
The effects measured by Tajmar were a million trillion trillion times (i.e., 30 orders of magnitude)
stronger than predicted by GR. "We ran more than 250 experiments, improved the facility over 3 years,
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and discussed the validity of the results for 8 months before making this announcement. Now we are
confident about the measurement," says Tajmar, who summarizes and refines their results in a recent
article.
Tajmar and de Matos believe that further experimentation could "produce even larger gravitational
fields in laboratories." If validated, it would provide the first such peer-reviewed confirmation of a
relationship between electromagnetic and gravitational forces 17 orders of magnitude greater than that
produced by normal matter. Their findings would certainly seem on the edge of "crank" science were it
not for the fact that it was funded jointly by ESA and the U.S. Air Force Office of Scientific Research.
Demonstrating a gravity-modifying generator today would be the equivalent of unveiling an electric
dynamo in the era of steam power. It changes the rules. What will the everyday applications of this
technology be? A cover story in New Scientist magazine (Nov. 11-17, 2006) suggested as outcomes for
this technology, "Levitating cars, zero-g playgrounds, tractor beams to pull objects towards you,
glassless windows that use repulsive fields to prevent things passing through. Let your imagination run
riot..."
At least 2 other (unidentified) physics labs are currently attempting to replicate the work of Tajmar and
de Matos. Results are expected some time in 2007.
S-680. from Ed Halerewicz regarding spinning nuclei and cold fusion
From: "Edward Halerewicz, Jr." <halgravity@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Wed, December 13, 2006 5:25 pm
Subject: Re: spinning nuclei and cold fusion
-- kram@stealthskater.com wrote:
>
Nuclear reactions (e.g., fusion) must be pretty complex. Somehow the strong force must be
overcome(shattered) and then the neutrons/protons (or is it more like the quarks?) "react".
>
> With that in mind, I found a 1998 summary of cold fusion at
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/6.11/coldfusion.html . It was interesting in that it
seemed to imply some of the results were greatly influenced by slight impurities in the
palladium. I recall that it was Fermi's aggressiveness in finding ultra-pure graphite that made
the first chain reaction possible after everyone else was ready to give up on it.
>
> I was never sure what physicists meant by "spin" of a particle. To me, it means spinning
around an axis. It shouldn't take a lot to strip electrons off of low-atomic number atom to
produce nucleic ions. What would happen if something could cause half of these ions to
rotate at high rpm in one direction and the other to rotate in the opposite? Could that negate
electrostatic repulsion and allow the ionic nuclei to interact/fuse?
Yup, sure are. But you already knew that. However, the strong force can not be overcome by any
known force.
A particle's "spin" is just a quantum number used to explain the observable wave-like behavior of
most quantum effects. There is not necessarily any actual "rotation" going on in the classical sense.
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And for stripping ions, it's actually easier to do so with elements of higher atomic numbers because
there is more electrostatic shielding. And thus electrons are less attracted to the nucleus which has a
higher ground energy than do the outer shells. If there was a half/half electron rotation direction, the
only effect that would have is on the behavior of the magnetic field of the system and electrostatic fields
would still be present. So there would be no fusion at all produced by that method.
And for fusion, the charge of electrons are a non-issue. What is important is to overcome the
electrostatic repulsion between positively-charged protons at close distance. The Sun does this by
having an overkill of mass which heats things up, producing a greater kinetic energy than exists due to
electrostatic repulsion alone. So the strong force is not overcome at all but rather an electromagnetic
one. Once that happens, the subnuclear forces can act on one another and begin to fuse.
-- Edward Halerewicz, Jr.
Independent Researcher
http://da_theoretical1.tripod.com/index.htm
S-681. from Paul Devine regarding reply from George Knapp concerning Bob Lazar
From: "paul devine" <grandfatherpaul@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Wed, February 14, 2007 4:29 pm
Subject: Fwd: RE: Lazar via Knapp (?) RE threats to "Lazar" Hugh C. McDonald, and Lazar's troubles
Mark,
Well, the unexpected happened. Such as it was, it is below. Note that is from Knapp alone, at this point.
I "copied" to Lazar, everything that I sent to Knapp. But nothing from Lazar at the moment.
--- Paul ---
-- George Knapp <gknapp@klastv.com> wrote:
>Subject: RE: Lazar via Knapp (?) RE threats to "Lazar" Hugh C. McDonald and Lazar's troubles
>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:33:29 -0800
>From: "George Knapp" <gknapp@klastv.com>
>To: "paul devine" <grandfatherpaul@yahoo.com>
>
>All very interesting. I remember some of this from years ago. I do not believe Lazar had any
other contacts with Novel.
>
>> From: paul devine [mailto:grandfatherpaul@yahoo.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 7:30 PM
>> To: George Knapp
>> Cc: sales@unitednuclear.com; support@unitednuclear.com;
technicalsupport@unitednuclear.com
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>> Subject: Lazar via Knapp (?) RE threats to "Lazar" Hugh C. McDonald, and Lazar's
troubles
>>
>> I have followed the adventures of Bob Lazar from a distance since discovering him on
Coast to Coast. His adventures remind me of certain aspects of the history of "The Thousand
Days of Camelot" (the 1961-1963 Presidency of JFK) and the aftermath. For example : Lazar's
(Nov. 16, 1989 ) encounter with Gordon Novel, displayed on pages 39-40 of Joe Vaninetti's
diary (archived by "StealthSkater" in his
http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Lazar_21.doc document. (Novel was certainly
involved in the Bay of Pigs. And he was alleged by some to have been involved with Dallas
and the murder of Pres. Kennedy there). The bad things that have happened to Lazar in his
career of "blowing the whistle" to the public regarding what he knows about the UFO
phenomenon with special reference to Area-51.
>>
>> I have elsewhere put together a list of documents that excerpt what I know about the
activities (actual or alleged) of Gordon Novel in the period from 1961 (when JFK took office )
through 1974 (when Nixon resigned), until at least as late as 1976. [The material from Joe
Vaninetti's diary -- archived by "StealthSkater" in his Lazar_21 document -- notices Lazar's
contact (Nov. 16, 1989 ) with Novel ( on pages 39-40 of the diary ) and also brings us up to
1989]. This Novel-related material may help to provide background and context to the "We're
going to kill you" threat made by "Dennis " to Lazar on (August 30, 1989 ) as recorded on
pages 27-28 of the Vaninetti diary.
>>
>> I have also found a chapter from the first (1975) of 2 books by Hugh C. McDonald. The
half-title of the self-published book is APPOINTMENT IN DALLAS : & * ( Zebra ). And the
relevant chapter is Chapter XIX ("Washington, D.C."), pages 105-110. McDonald had been a
member of the Los Angeles Police department (LAPD). After Dallas, McDonald had taken it
on himself to ferret out at least one of the real murderers of President Kennedy. In this
particular chapter, McDonald's source * CIA Herman Kimsey) is trying to dissuade McDonald
from his self-appointed "whistle-blower" role. What CIA Kimsey says to McDonald -- in order
to dissuade him -- is given on pages 108-109 of the chapter.
>>
>> Is it coincidence -- or is it more than coincidence -- that so much of what CIA Herman
Kimsey predicts for Hugh FC. McDonald has actually befallen Bob Lazar? (BTW, what
Kimsey predicted did not -- so far as I am aware -- ever actually come to pass for McDonald.
Unfortunately, as much cannot be said for Bob Lazar!)
>>
>> I thought that others might be interested in this material but that -- at the very least -- I
should not be the only person to know it. (If you either already know it or do not want to know
it, then no harm is done ).
>>
>> I intend to forward the collection of Novel-related documents and "scan" Chapter XIX of
the (1975) McDonald book to you.
>>
>> --- Paul Devine ---
>>
>> P.S. Death-threats should be taken seriously. Less than a year ago, Wayne Madsen
(notoriously a thorn in the side of the present regime!) was run out of WDC for a while on
account of just such a threat. See Caylor, John,(Aug. 27, 2005 ), "MADSEN UNDER
THREAT OF ASSASSINATION Flees Washington, DC" , online at http://www.insider-
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magazine.com/madsen_under_threat.htm. For the (Aug.27, '05 ) date, see
http://mparent7777.linejournal.com/2005/08/27/ .
>>
>>/ PJD /
S-682. from Paul Devine regarding Field Unification Theory
From: "paul devine" <grandfatherpaul@yahoo.com>
To: "Mark McWilliams" <kram@stealthskater.com>
Date: Sun, April 15, 2007 11:11 pm
Subject: Ed Halerewicz & Field Unification Theory (FUT) & "gravity doing the twist"
Mark,
I just discovered a sequence of email messages from last Nov. 14-15 ('06 ) re. Unified Field Theories
(UFT) which I never answered. They are entitled:
"Re: Gravity adds a new Twist" ; "Gravity adds a new Twist" ; and "Ed's remarks about 'Gravity
adds a new Twist' ".
I don't have access to the whole New Scientist article on which this exchange is based. So I will just
respond to the UFT-related side of it (Ed Halerewicz having disposed of the "frame-dragging" side of
things).
If I understood you correctly, then what was at issue for you was the relation between Magnetism (or
ElectroMagnetism) and Gravity, Albert Einstein, and Field Unification Theory.
Albert Einstein was not the first Field Unification Theorist! (An even earlier one was Johann
Kepler!). The one of interest here, however, was Michael Faraday (THE Michael Faraday).
Unfortunately, I have already given away my material on Faraday. So what I write here, I write from
memory.
You can express Faraday's challenge by saying that he wanted a gravitational field subsequently to
give birth to an ElectroMagnetic inductance. If Gravity could do that, then Faraday would consider the
fields to have been unified. In other words, Gravity and ElectroMagnetism (not only electricity but also
magnetism -- and not just magnetism alone) would be different aspects of each other.
Question: Why not turn it around? Why not make an electromagnetic inductance to give birth to a
gravitational field?
Answer: Because of Einstein's famous E = mc2 equation and because of his famous Equivalence
Principle. Because of the equation, every energy has an corresponding amount of inertial mass.
Because of the Equivalence Principle, this inertial mass (that is talked about in Newton's First Law of
Motion equation) is equivalent to an exactly equal gravitational mass -- an equal measure of
gravitationally active mass (which is talked about in Newton's Inverse Square Law of Universal
Gravitation).
Therefore, any electromagnetic inductance already automatically generates (or corresponds to) a
certain subsequent, "equivalent" amount of gravitation.
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But as you can see, there is no law that says that Gravity generates a certain subsequent quantity of
ElectroMagnetism or of electromagnetic induction. Therefore, if you could establish such a subsequent
generation in the laboratory, then you could be considered to have unified the fields -- showing that
there is a certain "equivalence" between them. (Sir Michael Faraday was ahead of his time!).
The New Scientist article did not seem to have anything to do with the subsequent generation of
something new from anything else pre-existing. In particular, the article (as I understood it) did not
have Gravity subsequently generating the Magnetism (that is mentioned in that part of the article which
was accessible to me) and which appears to have been pre-existing in the article (as far as I could
understand the little snippet of the article that was available for consultation). Therefore, it did not have
anything to do with Field Unification Theory (FUT) in the sense of Michael Faraday.
That's the way I see your article.
There is a far more abstract (and perhaps far less relevant and accessible to you) way of explaining
this. I will leave that for the Postscript which follows. (I like Faraday's approach!).
Hope this helps.
-- Paul
PS: Einstein's original idea was to "geometrize" these things by introducing the idea of "curvature" in or
of a surface. His idea was to explain ElectroMagnetism as being associated with curvature in space (the
space itself being thought of as a surface), just as he had previously shown how you could think of
Gravity as being associated with curvature in space. His idea did not work because he over-simplified
it, restricting himself artificially and arbitrarily to quadratic terms (so to speak) in his equations. (They
had worked for Gravity. So why should they not also work for ElectroMagnetism?!).
In the same way, Plato had tried to restrict the means (by which you could double the cube and
trisect the angle) to a straightedge (an un-marked ruler with no unit of length at all on it ) and a compass
(which draws a circle, which corresponds to a quadratic equation in analytic geometry, in other words).
Archimedes showed that you could trisect the angle if you turn your straightedge into a ruler (with units
of length marked on it) -- a development which Platonic mathematicians would not allow. Archimedes'
approach amounts to introducing cubic equations (which are more complicated than quadratic equations)
into the proceedings -- an approach banned by the Platonists among mathematicians and geometers.
What corresponds to "turning a straightedge into a ruler" in terms of modern UFT work is (as I
perceive things) in the work of Ed Witten (possibly Albert Einstein's last research student ) et al.
Field Unification was related in Faraday's mind to his view of Deity. The reference is to Jones, B.,
(1870) , *The Life and Letters of Faraday* (Philadelphia, 1870) , Volume 2, p. 385.
Jones refers to an 1849 paper --" On Magnetic and Diamagnetic Bodies" by Faraday.
You can find all Faraday's papers collected in Faraday, Michael, *EXPERIMENTAL
RESEARCHES*. In three (3) Volumes. (New York, N.Y. Dover, 1965).
BTW, Edgar Allen Poe had similar views as expressed in "Eureka" -- his long prose poem that he
finished not long before his untimely death at age 40 (also in the year 1849).
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Well, if the preceding paragraph in this postscript does not help you, then I will be neither surprised
nor disappointed.
S-683. from Ed Halerewicz regarding UNITEL's quantum laser model
From: "Edward Halerewicz, Jr." <halgravity@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Thu, May 3, 2007 10:29 pm
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Do you understand this?]
-- kram@stealthskater.com wrote:
> Subject: Do you understand this?
> From: "Paul Kirsch" <kirsch@lifesci.ucsb.edu>
> Date: Thu, May 3, 2007 6:21 pm
> To: "Mark" <kram@stealthskater.com>
>
> Mark,
>
> I asked Larry what significance of 356 lumens is for his lens. I didn¹t really understand his
answer see exchange below. Particularly when he says ³extra degree of freedom for EM².
And ³magnetic potential as well² (what magnetic field does a laser have?) Any insights?
>
> Thanks,
> Best, P.
>
>> From: Larry Maurer <larsmaurer@yahoo.com>
>> Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 19:37:14 -0700 (PDT)
>> To: Paul Kirsch <kirsch@lifesci.ucsb.edu>
>> Subject: Re: What is 356 lumens
>>
>> Paul:
>>
>> Hi. I believe it was 365 lumens, wasn't it? Anyway, that is the full-on intensity of
light per pixel or 3 R,G,B sections which means that it would be solid "white" in
color. A good example is your TV set whereby if you wanted to show a snow field,
all the pixels would be 365 lumens thereby creating a true "white" color. Make
sense?
>>
>> Maximum of what? Maximum of color means max of magnetic potential as well.
Remember that the 3 basic colors radiate 90 degrees orthogonal from one another.
You merely have to look at the ceiling of your room where it would be at the corner
where 2 walls come together so you can visualize the 3 R,G,B colors radiating out
from a point in space & time. This gives the viewer an example of an extra degree of
freedom for EM. Make sense?
>>
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>> L.
Mark,
The answers to Paul's questions are fairly simple. 356 lumens is just an arbitrary number for
brightness as intensity is simply Power (watts) over Area. The number 356 would originate from what
ever assumptions were placed on Larry's model (which I can not really say is accurate or not).
For degrees-of-freedom, you just have to think of Chemistry. The 's orbital' has 2 degrees-of-
freedom (spin up and spin down) while a 'p' has 6 (i.e., 3 sets of up and down). Larry's claim is that his
laser would have so much energy it could actually poke a hole into another "dimension" ala string
theory. So that would be the extra degrees -of-freedom he is talking about.
A bad analogy is that we live in an "s orbital" universe and the laser in question would operate in the
"p orbital" universe. If that can be done or not in practice is another question all together. But it fringes
on the near impossible (like an electron orbiting a hydrogen atom being able to quantum tunnel to the
star Vega). It's highly, highly unlikely … but not all together impossible.
As far as laser magnetic potential, that's a good insightful catch! Ordinarily we do not associate
magnetic potentials with lasers. But if his laser were to act in another physical dimension as claimed,
then it would obtain a magnetic potential. I would say quite a number of claims are based upon shaky
reasoning. But that is the origin behind all of the odd terminology used by Larry.
--Edward Halerewicz, Jr.
Independent Researcher
http://da_theoretical1.tripod.com/index.htm
S-684. from Ed Halerewicz regarding rotating gravitational fields
From: "Edward Halerewicz, Jr." <halgravity@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Mon, May 7, 2007 12:06 pm
Subject: Re: rotating gravitational fields
> Ed --
>
> If extra dimensions (or parallel worlds/universes) exist, there is a good chance that the laws
of Physics there are different from what we see in our 4D spacetime. At least that is what
I've read from Kaku and others.
>
> Therefore, what if ET craft were constructed there using elements and manufacturing
technologies that are just possible in our 4D realm.>
> If so, then the long-rumored ET-human back-engineering co-op program may make more
sense. It would be as much of a challenge to "them" as to us to retrofit what parts of their
science into the restrictive framework of our reality.
>
> Of course, the big question is how do they cross the boundaries to arrive here? It may not
be the Macroscopic Quantum Tunneling that Larry is always talking about. (BTW, New
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Zealander ex-WWII Bob King told me long ago that he wasn't impressed with UNITEL.
"They merely re-patented it after the old patent expired. When Larry first sent me stuff for
his books, one image was a PowerPoint slide that showed Northrop-Grumman managing an
Army research lab that apparently later became the University of Chicago's MicroPhysics
Lab. Reading between the lines, I'm guessing that they had trouble manufacturing these
Type II semiconductors and turned it back over to academics. The newer Type III
ORMEs/ORMUS may have caused them to lose interest in the Type II. That's what
Firmage's GCT group in Hungary is allegedly researching.)
>
> This was addressed by Chuck Clark (I think that's his name) who moved to Rachel, Nevada
after retirement and set up shop at the Little Alien Inn of the Travises. (He replaced Glen
Campbell who fell out of favor with Joe and Pat.) Chuck thought the ET craft were just as
likely (if not moreso) to come from other dimensions as from far off in our normal
spacetime.
>
> To get back to the question of mechanism, string theory seems to suggest that the EM,
Weak, and Strong forces are open-ended strings which are "grounded" in the ZPE field (or
someplace). They vibrate but don't move from place-to-place. Unlike the Gravitational
string which is closed and is pictured as floating between dimensions (thereby suggesting a
possible means of interdimensional communications). Whatever mechanism this uses might
be used also by these hypothetical ET craft (except on a grander scale).
>
> I've seen a lot mentioned about "rotating magnetic fields". What about rotating
gravitational fields. Can such a thing exist? Remember that Einstein thought gravity and
magnetism were related to a more fundamental force. If wierd results can be obtained (e.g.,
Montauk, the P-X) from a RMF, then maybe strange results (if not identical) can be obtained
from a RGF. Has anyone given thought to such a thing?
>
> -- Mark
A lot to comment on here …
1st -- IF there are extra dimensions, the "laws" of Physics are still valid. There just may be a few
additional ones.
2nd -- I will not comment on voodoo conspiracy theories.
3rd -- String theory has a multitude of open and closed and even [mem]brane structures. So a one fit
rule for every particle wouldn't be the wisest course of action to take in understanding the theory.
4th -- Nothing is grounded in the ZPE. For all intents and purposes, it is cosmic static. Nothing more,
nothing less. So don't try attaching magic properties to it when none exist.
5th -- Yes rotating gravity fields exist. They were long ago predicted by General Relativity. It has even
been confirmed that even the Earth does this thanks to Gravity Probe-B. But this has nothing to do with
a "Unified Field Theory" or the possible existence of other dimensions or any other such nonsense. In
short, yes rotating gravitational fields can exist. And I think they've been theorized at least 30 years ago
(if not longer). Instruments have been measuring those effects for at least 10 years if not more. So your
question is really old hat and nothing new to the scientific community at all.
--Edward Halerewicz, Jr.
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Independent Researcher
http://da_theoretical1.tripod.com/index.htm
S-685. from Paul Devine regarding rotating gravitational fields
From: "paul devine" <grandfatherpaul@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Thu, May 10, 2007 12:19 am
Subject: Re: rotating gravitational fields
Mark,
I came in on the middle of this. But perhaps the following might help.
Gravitational fields are generated by what is called "ponderable" matter -- matter with a non-zero
rest mass. For the gravitational field to rotate at the velocity of light, then presumably the mass
generating the gravitational field is also rotating at the velocity-of-light.
But the question arises -- whence the energy to make a non-zero rest mass move (even rotationally )
with the angular velocity of light? It's back to the same old question: Whence the energy? Whence the
source for the energy? And the energy in question, arguably, would have to be unlimited.
Does this help?
-- Paul
S-686. from Ed Halerewicz regarding Anti-Gravity concepts
From: "Edward Halerewicz, Jr." <halgravity@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Tue, July 10, 2007 11:08 am
Subject: Re: found Sarfatti, Puthoff on Wikipedia's antigravity page
-- kram@stealthskater.com wrote:
> In his book The Cosmic Conspiracy, Stan Deyo reported a 1955 concern (Gravity Rand)
that authored a small paper showing a relationship between "nuclear energy" and gravity. [I
have that book and have seen the rather short (albeit in tensor form) equation.] The equation
used Einstein's tensor and was regarded as insolvable in its present form. Now what was
meant by "nuclear energy", I don't know. I always think of energy in terms of photons.
Apparently it goes a lot deeper. I'm very confused as to what exactly "energy" is at its most
fundamental (i.e., non-reduceable) level.
>
> The point that Deyo (BTW, Tom Mahood says that "Deyo's science sucks!") was trying to
make was that Anti-Gravity was recognized more than 50 years ago. And he implied that the
research was highly suppressed and made some progress. I don't know how this relates to
Wilbert Smith's "Project Magnet" and use of superconducting caduceus coils. Maybe the
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latter was trying to achieve a pseudo anti-grav effect by exploiting the Unified Field Theory
which was still in vogue at the time.
>
> When I Googled on "Gravity Rand", I got the following Wikipedia link on anti-gravity
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-gravity ). Note that our boy "Dr. Jack" is widely quoted
here (did one of Jack's supporters contribute the article?). The article also acknowledged
that many points were disputed and provided a link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Anti-
gravity ) to a "discussion" page.
>
> Kaku wrote that if room-temperature superconductivity could ever be achieved, "anti-
gravity" would also. I'm still trying to visual AG from a GR diagram. Would it curve space-
time outwards and thereby nullify the "inwards" GR depression (looking at the typical 3D
"rubber sheet" rendering of space-time)? Or does AG use a quantum form of gravity instead
of GR?
If Mahood says that it's junk science, it probably is. A 1955 concern … ha! I doubt it. That was the
year that Einstein passed though. And at that time, nuclear and quantum mechanics became the thing
and gravity was largely ignored. The Einstein Tensor is all the nasty math in GR combined together
which gives space-time its geometry. Nothing more, nothing less.
Sounds by your description that the guy was claiming GR did more than it actually does. As far as
solving Einstein tensors, at first even Einstein did no think it possible. But a case was solved for
spherically symmetric space-times before Einstein passed. And many more have been solved since. So
sounds like the guy is missing a few critical pieces in the history of Gravity.
Now as far as "energy" goes, the easiest translation is motion. Molecular motion is temperature.
Electron motion is more-or-less electricity (electric energy). Nuclear energy is simply the motion of
nucleons, etc. Associating energy with photons would only be true for electromagnetic energy. But
there are a lot of energy forms and -- for the most part -- is just what the average person just terms
motion (for kinetic energy / potential energy of course is a little different).
I also suspect Kaku's remark might well have been sarcasm. He might regard room temperature
superconductivity as an impossibility. S it would be like saying anti-gravity (AG) will become possible
when pigs fly. That's my gut feeling. I could be wrong, but unless I see a transcript in source I would
tend to take the view that he was stating how impossible he thought the idea might be.
As for the Unified Field Theory, it never existed. It's a myth in the same vain as "Theories of
Everything". Sure the idea is out there. But there is no real theory out there.
As for AG, it's not a real science per say. So there is no real GR picture for it. By definition, AG
would violate GR. A form of it does, however, exist and is known as the "cosmological constant" (and
some attribute the buzz word "dark energy" to AG today). But the cosmological constant was invented
as a dodge by Einstein. So its physical nature may be somewhat in question.
But in a sense, it would act like a scalar field which would have an affect on all other gravitational
fields. In that sense, it would just slightly weaken gravitational fields to a small possibly undetectable
level for bodies that have any appreciable amount of mass, but probably would act like a large force
field pushing things at a large cosmological scale. More-or-less, it would like little big bangs taking
place but without the explosion throughout the Universe -- pushing matter source away from each other
by essentially creating new space. And that's what -- in theory -- would produce the accelerated
expansion of the Universe that astronomers have been talking about in the past couple of years.
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So for the rubber sheet analogy, it would be like two planets 'x' distance apart create two dents in the
grid. Then the dents get slightly smaller and are pushed away at 'x+a' distance. But the effect wouldn't
become noticeable until the masses are so far apart that the scalar field becomes larger than the
gravitational influence. So more or less, you are talking about a force which is much weaker than
normal gravity but which becomes fairly strong when next to no mass is found and that outside
gravitational influences are almost impossible to feel. That description probably will make your head
spin. But that is as about as simply as it can be put without going into the math.
--Edward Halerewicz, Jr.
Independent Researcher
http://da_theoretical1.tripod.com/index.htm
S-687. from Ed Halerewicz regarding "Gravity Rand, Inc." [Part 1 of 2]
From: "Edward Halerewicz, Jr." <halgravity@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Cc: grandfatherpaul@yahoo.com (more)
Date: Thu, July 19, 2007 1:17 pm
Subject: Re: photocopies of 1956 Gravity Rand tensor equation relating nuclear energy to gravitation
--- kram@stealthskater.com wrote:
> Ed --
>
> This is from Deyo's book The Cosmic Conspiracy (first ed. 1978, rev. ed. 1994). He
republished a 1956 report by Gravity Rand Ltd., London. It seemed more of a briefing than a
report. There are many pages to it. I only attached 2 with 2 others that summarized the
highlights. (If you think it worthwhile, I can convert the whole thing to a Word .doc. That
will take a little time as some of the photocopies are hard to read.)
>
> There was a section (which I did not scan here) titled "A Quantum Mechanical Approach
to the Existence of Negative Mass and Its Utilization in the Construction of Gravitationally
Neutralized Bodies" by a Prof. f. Mozer (whoever he is). Gives a bunch of Shroedinger stuff
along with "negamass" and "posimass quanta".
>
> What I did scan (as GR_3 and GR_4) was a proposed link between "nuclear energy"
(whatever that is supposed to be) and gravitation which uses EInstein's tensor and a
generalized Dirac matrix. Again, this was written (allegedly) in 1956. And that is the point
that Deyo is trying to make (I think) --i.e., that governments have long been involved in anti-
gravity research.
>
> Deyo said that he attended the Air Force Academy until he and other classmates were
thrown out on a trumped-up cheating charge. Or maybe he quit because of what he thought
was brainwashing. (I have to re-read that section.) He said that none other than Edward
Teller was instrumental in getting him a job at an Australian institute after Deyo decided to
apply for citizenship in that country. More of Deyo's story is in the WorldReports_1.doc
(although I need to rewrite it as my editing years ago was simply horrible!).
>
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> I only wish that Montauk's Nichols would have gotten a copy of the fabled Levinson's time
equations which reportedly were the basis for understanding reality upon which the Montauk
Project was based. (Perhaps "Project Looking Glass" is a scaled-down version of Montauk.)
When you take that into account along with Oberth's statement that UFOs appeared more like
"time machines" than flying craft … tie it in with Sherman's "Project Preserve Destiny" …
add Ray Kramer's "The Equation" (quantum teleportation) [to be released in a book AFTER
his death which interested Tom Bearden no less] … and perhaps sprinkle on some of the
Incunabula folklore ...
>
> ... and now I could see why such things would baffle the best mainstream (and even
alternative) scientists and engineers of the decades. If it was that "easy", we would have had
it (or at least parts) figured out by now.
>
> It has to be something completely foreign. Not necessarily new laws of Physics. Perhaps
undiscovered laws of consciousness and another "Time" (not space-time "time").
>
> Food for thought --
> -- Mark
What a whole lot of nonsense! "The Cosmic Kooks" would be a much better title.
The alleged Relativity equation mixed with Quantum Mechanics is nonsensical. While at first sight
it looks like the Einstein Field Equation, it is written in a way which makes no sense. You can not write
T=G=0 … Well, you could but that would imply that there is no gravitational field at all. Which would
be bizarre in itself.
Then there was the feeble attempt to associate a 4-dimensional gravitational field with a 2-
dimensional quantum well equation. Show that equation to any real physicists and they'll laugh their
heads off. I also found the second equation truly humorous (the one with Einstein written in the
parenthesis). Sorry but Einstein did not event the equation for Kinetic energy 1/2 mv2. That's just good
old Classical Mechanics. It just looks like these people were simply grasping at straws and had no
inkling of the underlying science.
--Edward Halerewicz, Jr.
Independent Researcher
http://da_theoretical1.tripod.com/index.htm
S-688. from Ed Halerewicz regarding "Gravity Rand, Inc." [Part 2 of 2]
From: "Edward Halerewicz, Jr." <halgravity@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Thu, July 19, 2007 1:29 pm
Subject: Re: the 1956 Gravity Rand report as a Word .doc
--- kram@stealthskater.com wrote:
> Ed --
>
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> I tried to read the photocopied sheets of 1956 Gravity Rand in Deyo's book the best I could
and retyped them as a Word document (Deyo_01.doc). Some of the math symbols I couldn't
that well. If you see any obvious errors, let me know.
>
> It would be interesting to see how the theories of that year (1956) compare with today's.
Maybe what they were calling "negamass" is what we call "dark matter" today. The
unfinished Unified Field Theory seemed to be used in attempt to lump gravity and
magnetism into a more fundamental force. I remember 2 comments on an old Shelly Palmer
Montauk board. Just out of the blue. One was that there was a highly suppressed and
incomplete scalarized version of Maxwell's equations that were initially being used in
electronic warfare. And the other was when someone mentioned "psycho-reactive" materials
with regard to UFO hulls. An anonymous responder said "well, they finally got something
right".
>
> It seems to me that "foo fighters" disappeared with the jet age. I wonder if they could have
been some anomaly caused by massive electrical fields set up by the huge turboprops of that
era.
>
> There have been reports that strange atmospheric happenings have been observed
following a nuke test -- sometimes thousands of miles away. And sometimes not at the
approximate same times. (Bearden has said the same thing regarding what he calls "scalar"
phenomena. (Perhaps a bad choice of words.) I heard similar tales regarding the Montauk
Project. That when the remote-viewers tried to "influence" some event, that (or a similar)
event occurred but not at the same time and perhaps as much as a day later. Strange
coincidence ...
>
> If "UFOs" are more of a nuke-related phenomena, it would make sense that the DOE (old
AEC) would manage the project (and not the CIA, FBI, NSA, etc.). Blame happenings on
alien craft to minimize public outcry rather than causing disastrous atmospheric effects
(perhaps even time/reality-related). I know the official reason why the Internet was created
(to facilitate the sharing of data from particle accelerators, etc.)
>
> My imagination would let me think of something a lot more, however. Re-booting reality
if the planet was wiped out. Of course, you would have to know how to "seed"
consciousness (think Burisch's "ganesh particle" here). And you would have to have
preserved the most trial of details (wait a minute! that's the bulging Internet!!). Gives a new
meaning to Sherman's "Project Preserve Destiny".
>
> Maybe Ray Kramer's "The Equation" (TOE) and instantaneous quantum teleportation is the
answer. It doesn't need superstrings' extra dimensions. The Universe may be simpler albeit
much more strange. (Don't know how it would tie in with Tegmark/Hawing and
Everett/Wheeler's "Many Worlds", though.)
>
> -- Mark
The errors seem to be the claimed "science" and the idea that there's a conspiracy on the subject to begin
with.
This may clear up one equation:
http://au.geocities.com/psyberplasmic/ccX-3-a4.html
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Also, the name "Arnowitt" looked familiar so I looked it up in a physics textbook of mine. Sure
enough, Desner and Arnowitt are real physicists and are most famous for their equations studying
gravitational fields at a distance known as ADM theory. Nonetheless, the equations are nonsense by
today's standards and explains why there has been no follow up much as the so-called "Unified Field
Theory" (not to mention that now hyperons have moved on to become baryons, etc.).
It still is a bit strange that the journal of that publication (if any) was not mentioned. Nor the year,
page, etc. In a month-or-so, I can look up that info at a large library to see if that work was cited
correctly.
But the general idea that electric fields can create gravity fields via Brown is even more absurd.
That's the same principles those "lifters" work on. And there's a reason why those toys can only lift
tinfoil.
Above all, the documents show one thing -- how Science changes over time. Often the World does
not operate like we think it should, so we have to change our outlook on Science and move on. It's
really not much more different than Alchemy becoming Chemistry. But there are a number of diehards
out there who will never believe it. They are probably also the same folk who believe the Earth is still
flat!
--Edward Halerewicz, Jr.
Independent Researcher
http://da_theoretical1.tripod.com/index.htm
S-689. from Mike D'Agostino regarding the Biefeld-Brown effect
From: "mangomike1@yahoo.com" <mangomike1@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Sun, July 29, 2007 7:08 pm
Subject: Biefeld-Brown effect
Hi Mark,
Although there appears to be many critics of the Biefeld-Brown effect, there are also many within
the scientific community who have written many papers describing various forms of coupling between
electro-magnetic and gravitational forces as well. Although my background and formal education is not
in the science disciplines, it appears obvious some scientists are quick to dismiss an effect if it can not be
explained by various forms of the Standard Model, Quantum Physics, or string theory.
Where would we be if inventors of the 1700s, 1800s, and 1900s dismissed combustion engines as
being not worthy of experimentation?
A reprint from http://media.ford.com/print_doc.cfm?article_id=13925 :
On Dec. 10, 1915, Ford Motor Company marked a major milestone of the Industrial Age. Rolling
off the Ford assembly line, the one-millionth Model-T’s engine was identical to the first one
manufactured Oct. 1, 1908. The engine design -- a single block with a removable cylinder head --
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became the industry standard. The 4-cylinder, 20 hp Engine had a top speed of about 45 miles per hour
and fuel consumption between 13 and 21 miles per gallon.
A reprint from http://autos.msn.com/advice/article.aspx?contentid=4024642 :
Vehicle City/Hwy CARB/EPA Emissions Base MSRP
Toyota Corolla 32 / 41 ULEV/7 $14,305
Toyota Yaris 34 / 40 ULEV/7 $11,150
Honda Fit 33 / 38 LEV/6 $13,850
Ford Focus 27 / 37 PZEV/9.5 $14,130
Hyundai Elantra 28 / 36 PZEV/9.5 $13,395
Mazda Mazda3 28 / 35 PZEV/9.5 $13,795
The above simply illustrates from the Model-T Ford to the present motor vehicles available,
gasoline-fuel efficiency has been improved upon. The above reflects the efficiency ratings of gasoline
combustion engines invented in the early 1900s which many people today would, of course, call
primitive in comparison.
In comparison, if we dismiss the Biefeld-Brown effect as being entirely an Ion-wind effect in light of
the many demonstrations of this effect in vacuum and oil environments, we are being narrow minded in
my opinion. Instead if we look at the basic principle of this effect, the Biefeld-brown effect as a very
primitive representation like the primitive gasoline combustion engines of the 1700s, 1800s, and early
1900s once were it would open mental corridors to many possibilities. I personally applaud those small
under-funded laboratories; backyard and basement experimenters who are trying to increase the
efficiency of the Biefeld-Brown effect through a variety of methods.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste when it is either closed or narrowly focused.
A friend and myself built 3 of the basic starter models of the lifter's about 6 years ago. It was a
learning process. The first one we built was hooked-up incorrectly. Polarity was reversed and the lifter
actually became heavier. We corrected the problem and built 2 more for the fun of it. My friend also
modified and connected in-line a circuit which gave us the ability to pulsate the voltage at different
variable rates.
What we did notice is the energy-voltage to weight co-efficiency could be increased or decreased in
small amounts. Unfortunately we didn't have a full-blown lab at our disposal, so our tests were very
limited. We couldn't help but wonder if we had the ability to have absolute and full control of the
dielectric field itself -- such as virtually rotating, pulsating, and in essence modulating the dielectric field
in a variety of different ways -- if the voltage-to-weight co-efficiency could be increased.
Mark, It is true I am a dreamer. In addition, I'm a pragmatist also. So I will sometimes find myself
at odds between my emotional feelings and my intellect. I have found through experience that people
can and have jumped to conclusions regarding an experiment or event. Our ability to extrapolate
information becomes the center point of which many will draw a conclusion. In my opinion when a
person finds themselves jumping from one extreme to another, what often remains undiscovered are the
variables and possibilities in between. Life would certainly appear much easier to contend with if it was
just black or white. But Nature has demonstrated there are variables in between -- fractal components
and holographic principals at work.
Keeping an open mind instead of jumping to one conclusion or extreme to another I believe is the
best approach. It doesn't mean or imply that we must throw ourselves without examination to an illusion
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or flights of fancy. But it does mean possibilities beyond what one can normally imagine do exist and
remain plausible until proven otherwise.
Well, keep up the good work and again thanks for keeping me in the loop the expanding loop.
Life is an Attitude. Have a very good one.
Best regards,
-- Mike
S-690. from Mike D'Agostino regarding Unidentified Submerged Objects
From: "mangomike1@yahoo.com" <mangomike1@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Fri, August 3, 2007 1:51 pm
Subject: Interesting TV show re USOs
Hi Mark,
A couple of nights ago (Wednesday night on the History channel), there was an interesting
documentary on USOs (Unidentified Submerged Objects).
What made the show of particular interest to me was that many of the sightings occurred during
Naval exercises around the aircraft carrier F.D. Roosevelt. The seamen on watch on all U.S. naval
vessels are trained to identify aircraft (commercial and military) as part of their MOS. In essence, they
are trained observers.
The USS Roosevelt at that time did carry nuclear weapons on board. This would lend some credence
to your previous statements about close proximity sightings of UFOs to Nuclear weapons. My guess is
that you probably already know of the program I mentioned above. But for me, it was a first-time event.
I just had to mention the program just in case you are not aware of it.
Best Regards,
Mike
S-691. from Mike D'Agostino regarding Schauberger, Tesla, Lakhovsky, and Reich
From: "mangomike1@yahoo.com" <mangomike1@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Fri, August 3, 2007 2:57 pm
Subject: Schauberger, Tesla, Lakhovsky, and Reich
--- kram@stealthskater.com wrote:
> Some of the comments made in the
http://www.stpns.net/view_article.html?articleId=54243229781005390 article (e.g.,
“These beings pick up on negative energy and fear,” he added, and both will keep the ships at
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bay.") remind me of the research done by Dr. Wilhelm Reich (whose books on "orgone
energy" were ordered burned by the U.S. FDA) =>
http://www.stealthskater.com/PX.htm#Reich .
> Having said that, I'm always leery about those who blame others' emotional states for not
being able to witness a paranormal event. However, I personally know a couple of people
whom I regard as not "whacked out" and they see stuff (and they don't want to! it has caused
them great anxiety and they've lost friends when they sought help) all the time.
> Gilliland's background sort of put me off, too. Sounded like a yoga/zen guy. And asking
for donations reminded me of the "Moonies" soliciting for money at airports by handing out
flowers. But maybe I have been too conditioned (pre-programmed) by my scientific
education/training and I don't have enough of an "open mind" to be able "to see the forest in
spite of all the trees".
> Could the body generate some sort of hallucinatory chemicals under some physiological
circumstances? Or could these people have expanded neural networks along the lines of
remote-viewers?
> If an event cannot be repeated under controlled conditions, it is frequently branded un-
scientific and (at least publicly) labeled "not a threat". I wonder if some of these anomalies
are more than Nature -- i.e., interacting with a greater "intelligence" (for lack of a better
word) that has the ability to control/produce certain effects in the physical world. (Even if so
-- and that's a big IF -- we are raised to live our daily lives by adhering to things we can count
on. If we do such-and-such, we can be sure that this-and-that will occur. From car repairs to
whatever. For those other things, they are like a coin toss. Why worry about something that
you have no control over?)
> Maybe Reich was on to something. Maybe there is something to Tom Bearden's
"unobservables". Whatever it is, it doesn't seem to be a present overt "threat" or we would
see more evidence in "black budget" appropriations. Right now it seems to be more of a low-
priority monitoring effort.
Hi Mark,
Correct me if you feel I'm incorrect on this. But I've read some of the papers and books regarding
Victor Schauberger, Nikola Tesla, George Lakhovsky, and Wilhelm Reich. And it seems to me that
they were all experimenting and speaking of different variations of the same type of energy.
I also understand the concept of "Aether" has fallen into disfavor by many in the mainstream
scientific community. I believe the reason for this is actually a very simple one -- mental conditioning.
We as children are taught from a very young age about labeling, identifying, and describing based upon
our form of reason, rational, and logic. The basic concept of an "Aether" doesn't lend itself to definition.
Quantum physics and now superstring theory is an attempt to define and label based upon our ability to
rationalize through reason and logic. The same can be said of higher dimensions which has been proven
on paper through abstract physics and mathematics beyond what most people would consider rational.
We as children are also mentally conditioned to understand if something (anything) can not be
rationalized through a process of reason and logic, then it didn't happen or -- at worst -- was grossly
misinterpreted. It has been said by neurologists that if a person has never been exposed to a certain
thing or event, we cannot perceive it. There is a term called "Inattentional blindness" and another called
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"educational blindness". In essence, the brain is a type of pattern recognition filter. And we typically
can not see or perceive what we can't imagine.
Regarding unexplained aerial or submerged phenomena, it is common to discredit the observers of
such events what is not as easy to disclaim as those trained observers in the Military who have been
exposed to and trained to recognize natural and manmade objects. This is not to discount all civilian-
observed aerial phenomena. But it is important to place these unexplained events in their proper
context. If we take only those unexplained aerial phenomena observed by trained Military observers,
there is still enough recorded and reported sightings for concern that these events are more than a mass
illusion (in my opinion).
Best Regards,
Mike
S-692. from Ed Halerewicz regarding Schauberger, Tesla, Lakhovsky, and Reich
From: "Edward Halerewicz, Jr." <halgravity@yahoo.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Mon, August 6, 2007 5:15 pm
Subject: Re: Schauberger, Tesla, Lakhovsky, and Reich
So much wrong with that. The "aether" has never really fallen out of favor. Only its name has
changed. So I take issue with that. What once was called the "aether" is now just called the "quantum
vacuum" or "quantum foam" nowadays and for the simple reason to separate real science from pseudo
science.
Take time-travel … It is still talked about heavily. But the real scientists call it things like "closed
time-like curves", "quantum fluctuations", and the like. There is no electromagnetic aether. But there is
a quantum one without doubt. But only the failed mad scientists actually think the aether concept was
valid to begin with and has been since covered up. I say that's a lot of crap!
Now the neurologist thing is half valid. The same reasoning is even applied in psychology (or at
least the lectures I've had in that subject). A person who does not know 'hot' or 'cold' probably couldn't
conceive of such a thing. You could even go to Helen Keller who didn't come to understand the world
around her until she learned language.
But mathematics is another thing all together. We don't see X-rays but understand them well
enough. Sidewalk patrons can be fooled by a magician whose only real trick is that he understands math
unlike the layman. And it take people like Penn and Teller to show you that there is nothing to these
tricks at all.
As far as the "aether", the only conditioning is the idea that there must be always a physical medium
to pass through. That's why it was so easy to postulate and so hard to give up. In recent years, what has
been defined as "physical" has been ever changing and is the reason that there is a belief in a kind of
quantum aether. Needless to say, I feel that opinion of ether brought up earlier is looking at the thing
from exactly the wrong end of the tube.
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As for USOs, if their accounts can be verified, those cases are certainly interesting if not all together
disturbing. But when the myth axes swings by with such force, no one dare raise their head above the
crowd.
--Edward Halerewicz, Jr.
Independent Researcher
http://da_theoretical1.tripod.com/index.htm
S-693. from Paul Define regarding Tensor calculus concepts
From: "paul devine" <grandfatherpaul@yahoo.com>
To: "Mark McWilliams" <kram@stealthskater.com>
Date: Sun, September 2, 2007 9:23 pm
Subject: Ed H / define tensors/ What's up?
… … … …
PS # 4. As concerns the definition of "tensor" from an earlier message: The reference to Wolfram that
Ed Halerewicz gave you in that exchange is the same reference that I would have given you for a
technical definition of a mathematical tensor.
> A technical definition of a tensor is here:
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Tensor.html
>
> So in general, Beverly's definition of a tensor being a scalar with n>1 dimensions is
OK in the general. In my mind, I usually equate tensors with matrices as General
Relativity makes use largely of rank two tensors (matrices) although there are tensors of
differing rank where tensor analysis would come in handy.
>
> Now to be dealing with tensors is no biggy to me because I play with vectors and such
in physics courses and in my spare time. But what I know of the subject is all self-
taught. So if I don't need to know about a certain problem, I don't bother to teach it to
myself. I haven't had a course in differential geometry as of yet and will not be able to
until next spring. But if Bev is interested, MIT offers a number online instruction that
can be freely viewed: http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Mathematics/index.htm
>
> As for Ark's comments about tensors being "fields", I can buy that. All a field really
is a mathematical definition of all points in space. In General Relativity, tensors spits
off info about scalar and vectors and that's about it. From that info, we learn about the
geometry of space-time and the dynamics of matter within. Going through the math
may be a bit tedious. But there is nothing "magical" about a tensor.
However, there is another way of looking at the things -- somewhat similar to Ed's remark (made in
reference to GRC) -- that GRC tells you what you cannot do. This other way of looking at tensors is to
see them as a mathematical process for deciding whether-or-not a given mathematical formula you have
--that quantifies experimental results or that formulates a hypothesis mathematically -- can be a Law of
Nature expressed in mathematical form.
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The general idea is that a Law of Nature (expressed in mathematical form) will not change its
mathematical form no matter where in the Universe you are. For example, suppose you did an
experiment at a particular point here on Earth of dropping a body from a given height and letting it fall
(under the influence of gravity alone) towards the surface of the Earth. Suppose you found that at any
given location here on Earth, the distance through which a body falls (under the influence of gravity
alone) is given by a numerical constant multiplied by the square of the elapsed time, during which the
body has been falling.
Suppose you found that the numerical value of the constant equals one-half of the numerical value of
the acceleration of gravity at that given location. Suppose you wonder if this mathematical formula that
you have developed is a Law of Nature. Well, how would you recognize a Law of Nature?
One possible (partial) answer to this question might be as follows. If this mathematical formula be a
Law of Nature, then you would expect the components of the equation to remain unchanged no matter
where else in the Universe you were. Thus, suppose you went to the surface of the Moon. Suppose you
repeated the experiment there. If what you found on Earth be a Law of Nature, then you should get a
Lunar formula which has the same components as the Terrestial formula found here on Earth.
In other words, the distance fallen through -- above any particular point on the surface of the Moon -
- should be equal to a constant times the square of the elapsed time during which the body has been
falling. Ad the numerical value of the constant should be numerically equal to one-half the numerical
value of the acceleration of gravity, at that point on the surface of the Moon.
If the formula you get does not have that structure (i.e., a constant times the square of the elapsed
time), then the original equation can not be a Law of Nature. But even if the formulas agree in their
structure, the common structure might still not represent a Law of Nature. The constant may not be
equal to one-half of the local acceleration of gravity, for example. And a "tensor" is a procedure which
allows you to tell in advance whether-or-not any given structural form for an equation will or will not
change its form. (Nothing is necessarily said about the numerical values of coefficients or of multipliers
or of factors, however).
S-694. from Dr. Matti Pitkanen regarding UNITEL's proposals
From: matpitka@mappi.helsinki.fi
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Mon, November 5, 2007 1:33 am
Subject: Re: would TGD offer hope to UNITEL's proposals?
… I have made a little comment on Reich's orgone concept. The problem with Reich, Ormus, UFOs
etc. is that it is not possible to build any concrete model since quantitative data are lacking.
My models relay on the notion of (a) manysheeted space-time; (b) the notion of field body; (c) the
new notion of energy; and (d) the hierarchy of dark matter identified as Macroscopically quantum
coherent phases with large value of Planck constant certainly explains living matter as ordinary matter
quantum controlled by dark matter. Dark matter could explain most of these kind of claims. The
problem is that one can imagine too many alternatives since quantitative data is lacking.
To me, the behavior of Living matter as such is a gigantic anomaly which we do not realize to be an
anomaly because we see it in everyday life. In the TGD Universe, remote mental interactions (e.g.,
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remote-viewing and ESP), free energy phenomena, etc. would be only particular cases of phenomena
which are the basis of functioning of Living matter.
● There are some precise data on "anomalous luminous phenomena" (I visited a little conference in
Hessdalen in August and learned some new things). The simplest model identifies them as
plasmoids which can be regarded as primitive lifeforms having basic functions of Living
matter. Plasmoids possess "magnetic body" which contains dark matter quantum controlling
the ordinary matter which we see.
● One can imagine many scenarios for explaining experiences about meeting ETs without assuming
UFOs to be space-ships. Plasmoids could serve as messengers allowing quantum entanglement
between their perceiver and extraterrestrials in some remote galaxy. This would make it
possible to telepathically share mental images and genuinely experience the presence of ET
without any physical presence.
Dark matter hierarchy also allows us to consider the possibility that higher lifeforms
communicate directly mental images to us to help our civilization to develop. Our relation to
them could also be like the relationship of the neuron to the brain. They would be in well-
defined sense creatures with magnetic body having size of say Galaxy size and would be in
well-defined sense present everywhere. Thus no need for UFOs! This would also resolve the
Fermi paradox.
● I do not have any strong opinions about UFOs as space vehicles or about these crashes. I just do
not know. However, TGD suggests new energy technologies solving the basic problem related
to the enormous amount of fuel needed by space-ships (remote metabolism) and Living matter
would utilize these mechanisms.
● I have not been in contact with Tom Bearden. I learned from Bearden's articles about anomalies
like Priore's machine and proposed my own model. My opinion is that Bearden has good
physics intuition and eye for real anomalies but lacks a good mathematical background. For
instance, his mathematical model related to phase conjugate light did not make sense to me.
I must stress that I have nothing against existence of UFOs in principle. Given the fact that Life is
probably almost everywhere in the Universe, it would not be surprising if some lifeform had constructed
such gadgets and decided to visit also here;-). My attitude is purely methological: There is no
documentation of them useful for building TOE!
I have been in email exchange with Larry Maurer. The problem is that he formulates his claims
using language which does not have much content for a physicist. If there is something there, it is
impossible to formulate any models. The basic problem is that various stories (true or not) tell that
something might be there. But this does not give much! This is why I prefer living matter. All these
exotic phenomena are visible all the time and enormous amount of precise data exists!
In principle, Macroscopic quantum tunneling is possible in a TGD Universe at the level of dark
matter since the Planck constant can be arbitrarily large and therefore characteristic quantum length/time
scales are scaled up. In particular, the Planck constant assignable to gravitational interactions is gigantic
and Schwartschild radius takes the place of Compton length as the length scale related to possible
quantum tunneling. In science-fiction mood, one could consider quantum tunneling of dark matter
objects from solar interior to solar exterior. Or in bio-length scales from cell nucleus to its exterior.
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Quantum criticality would be behavior just between Classical and Quantum. Bohr orbits for planets
and chaotic orbits for comets could correspond quantum criticality. Inner and outer planetary orbits
indeed correspond to Bohr orbits with different Planck constants (in good approximation). This was the
starting point of TGD.
Also quantum diffraction effects in Macroscopic length scales are possible. A couple months ago, I
considered in my blog the possibility that the colored spots resulting when you direct camera (or eye) to
a bright light source could reflect diffraction of photons with large Planck constant (diffraction effects
occur in wavelength scale but now wavelength of order micron would be scaled up by hbar scaling for
given photon energy).
Quantum phase transitions as analogs of atomic transitions would be a further prediction. In
particular, cosmic expansion would occur as this kind of transitions -- rather than continuously and
during these periods expansion -- would be accelerating. No need to introduce a "cosmological
constant".
A couple of days ago, my son Paavo told me that he had found in tube a video about claim that
during last 100 million years or so, Earth's radius has scaled up by a factor about 2 and before that
period Pangaya covered entire Earth! The URLE is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgidAICoQI. The video demonstrated how beautifully the
continents fit together. A second argument supporting this claim is that the age of the bottom of the sea
is only about 100 million years (a claim to be checked, too). The Cambrian revolution took place for
530 million years ago so that these creatures should have lived in shallow sea or lake rather than sea.
I have to check whether it really makes sense. If this is not just a joke, then quantum phase
transition increasing the Planck constant associated with Earth would be in question. The Planck
constants assignable to continents as space-time sheets would not have changed. And this is the reason
why Pangaya would have split in pieces!
-- Matti
Quoting kram@stealthskater.com:
> Dear Dr. Pitkanen --
>
> Although I admit a lifelong interest in UFOs (what "normal" boy doesn't!), it was coming
across (quite by accident ... or was it??) a book on the "Montauk Project" that really sparked
my interest in all of this. (Almost to the point where I was no longer interested in UFOs.
They might be a "by-product" of some higher phenomena.)
>
> The original proponents (Nichols, "Moon", Bielek) have all been discredited so much that
the story has no merit even to UFO researchers. British remote-viewer/inventor Tom Skeggs
(http://www.stealthskater.com/PX.htm#StarChamber ) actually journeyed to Long Island
to see how well his rv-scans corroborated with what was there physically. Tom was of the
opinion that Montauk was used for mind-control experiments while the "real" project was
carried out in an abandoned Atlas missile silo at Plattsburgh AFB under the auspices of
Rome Air Technology Center. (It seems hauntingly familiar to rumors of a "Project Looking
Glass" http://www.stealthskater.com/UFO.htm#LookingGlass . Sort of a new meaning to
"time travel".)
>
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> Anyway, it was while reading posts at various Montauk message boards that I came across
famed "civilian investigator" Marshall Barnes talking about a private company who was
exploring Macroscopic quantum tunneling. It was UNITEL, NW in Portland, Oregon. I
became friends with its president (Larry Maurer) who insisted his proposals were based on 2
sightings in the Oregon Cascade mountains which he said were also purposeful (and personal
-- i.e., intended for their eyes only) "demonstrations".
>
> Larry has been trying to obtain funding ever since. I had heard that the initial major
obstacle to building his laser lens was to create the special machinery needed for working
with these materials. There seems to be 2 parts. One is to grow the actual laser lens with an
MBE process that will take (1.7 years). (Why he is insistent on growing a 5-ft lens off-the-
bat and not something smaller as "proof of concept" is beyond me!) The other is to
manufacture his "smartskin" and Niobium-layered hull material.
>
> Ed Halerewicz was earning a living as a mechanical truss designer. So he was well
familiar with tensor calculus when the Physics "bug" bit him. Apparently he has a native
aptitude for it and began self-learning advanced material. He had impressed such people as
Hal Puthoff and even NASA who offered him an internship if he would return to college to
get an additional degree in Physics. So that is where Ed is now (some university in his home
state of Illinois). He doesn't email me as often now as he used to due to school work.
>
> Ed did all of the math analysis on UNITEL's claims. While he found some results that
were surprising, most of it he considered "junk science" unless the laws of Physics changed.
(note: on the http://www.stealthskater.com/UNITEL.htm page, see
http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/UNITEL_6.doc , ...UNITEL_7.doc ,
...UNITEL_9.doc ). I couldn't help but wonder if your TGD model could offer the "change"
that Ed said was needed for UNITEL's proposals to be taken seriously.
>
> (As an aside -- and you remarked on this yourself -- no matter how they stack it/rack
it/pack it/or sack it, any of these propulsion-less schemes are going to require a huge amount
of power. To me, that was the key thing always overlooked. Where does the power come
from? Indeed, Lazar (his notoriety notwithstanding) said that it was the reactor on the alien
S4 craft that was the key to the whole thing. They had figured out most everything else. But
they had to cut open the reactor while it was running to learn some more. And when they
did, it blew up. I had seen similar accounts elsewhere. The power reactor always seemed to
be the top-most security item in the eyes of the ETs [if you believe the tales]. A mysterious
contact [Jonathon Bluestone} emailed me to request Skeggs' remote-viewing help on a
transfer that the military was sending him to. He claimed that a powerful "energy source"
was being temporarily housed at Tinker AFB in Oklahoma. At the time, I was asking him
about the Baghdad "stargate" rumors. [He said that the only "stargate" he knew of was
somewhere in the Tibetian mountains.])
>
> Maurer's bio concerning the "sighting/demonstration" was in his "Flying Colors" book that
I archived on the UNITEL page. Although there are those (Tom Mahood was one) that he is
either a well-meaning "mad scientist" or a clever con artist, I still can't help but wonder (from
a purely human and non-technical side) why someone would risk continuing ridicule and job
loss for 25+ years unless they were surely convinced.
>
> As he scrambled to put together his "Quantum Laser Propulsion" book (which I did the
initial desk-top publishing for him at my own expense), he sent me a PowerPoint slide that
showed that the Army (under Northrop-Grumman) was actually experimenting with Type II
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semiconductors at the facility which later became the MicroPhysics Lab at the University of
Chicago after the Army pulled out. There have been those (such as Philadelphia Experiment
proponent and ex-WWII Bob King
[http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/BobKing_1.doc ] who claimed that UNITEL
just picked up on the patent after the original one timed-out.
>
> Maurer's emails (along with others) are archived at
http://www.stealthskater.com/Email_Diary.htm . I need to edit those somewhat to make
them more readable (i.e., shorten sentences, correct spelling and grammer, etc.).
>
> I have archived all 181 of the original "Doc Savage" episodes at
http://www.stealthskater.com/DocSavage.htm . I have seen sites dedicated to this fictional
character in England, Italy, and France so the stories must have some worldwide appeal. An
insight into the mind of the creator -- Lester Dent (who in many ways was a real-life "Doc
Savage") -- is archived at http://www.stealthskater.com/DocSavage/DS000.doc . Unless
I'm way off-the-mark, it appeared to me that Dent and his fellow "ghostwriters" (using the
penname "Kenneth Robeson) were influenced by the Tesla's scalar theories and Keely's
vibrational stuff (in particular, strange happenings with quartz) when devising these devious
weapons which were pitted against Doc and his men.
>
> And Dent mixed in other stuff (mostly about his own trouble with women) to add humor
and personality to the otherwise dangerously adventuresome tales. He even wrote one of
UFOs (#027). If you need a break from the "real" world, you might want to look at some of
these. I zipped them up to preserve my limited bandwidth. I can send you a back-up CD (in
Word format) containing all the stuff at my site ("Doc Savage" included) if you give me a
postal address.
>
> Have a great weekend, Matti! And thanks for the reply ...
>
> -- Mark
S-695. from Dr. Matti Pitkanen regarding remote-viewing "engineering"
From: matpitka@mappi.helsinki.fi
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Tue, November 6, 2007 1:07 am
Subject: Re: remote-viewing engineering -- and not flying craft -- is the way to go, IMO!
>> I must stress that I have nothing against existence of UFOs in principle given the
fact that Life is probably almost everywhere in the Universe. It would not be
surprising if some lifeform had constructed such gadgets and decided to visit also
here;-).
>
> I think that most scientists would agree upon the probability of Life throughout the
Universe. But because of the SOL limitation, they would argue against it ever coming to our
planet. (A) Not just because of the time required for travel. (B) But how would they ever
know we existed and where we physically located.
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>
> Regarding (B), I would think that is where remote-viewing would be of benefit. Even if
you had some way of cheating the (A) SOL limit [e.g., using UNITEL's "Macroscopic
quantum tunneling"], you would still need to know where to "aim" your craft. And even if
you could go that fast, how would you navigate through the uncertain geometrics of
hyperspace.
>
> But those concerns may be academic. Why would you ever want to go to another planet
and risk exposure to alien viruses/bacteria/etc.? The safest way to go would be via remote-
viewing -- possibly using Skeggs' "Star Chamber"
(http://www.stealthskater.com/PX.htm#StarChamber ).
>
> When Tom first discussed that with me, it had to do with using "exotic matter" to select
one of the possible destinations allowed in the Evert/Wheeler Many Worlds Interpretation.
(Sort of like what the "Dune" spice navigators were doing with "folding" space to achieve
physical travel.) Then Tom threw in that it would permit real-time interaction between rv-er
and "view-ee" through holographic projection of the rv-er. I got confused at that point.
>
> The point is that it seems to be that would be the ideal way to "make contact". And in that
respect, there would be NO LIMITS as to space or time. I don't know if any of this was what
Ray Kramer (father of famed missing person Philip Taylor Kramer) had in mind about his
quantum teleportation => http://www.stealthskater.com/Science.htm#Kramer .
>
> When Alexandra "Chica" Bruce wrote The Philadelphia Experiment Murder, it started off
as a look into the incredible allegations of Phil Schneider. In it, she interviewed naval
electronics expert Bob Beckwith who said the P-X involved not teleportation but reversing
along a prior established history path (something that you mentioned in Tesla's "Arrow of
Time"). It might have some stealth applications also.
[http://www.stealthskater.com/PX.htm#Chica ]. In an email to me, Chica said that writing
the book almost got her killed. But she didn't say what she stumbled upon.
>
> Mike D'Agostino (aka "mangomike" -- see below /...#Chica above) said that he met
Beckwith at a UFO conference once. But the latter was strangely unwilling to answer Mike's
questions. I see where Bearden also is a regular attendee at these things. I emailed
BEckwith requesting one of his books but never received a reply. Makes you wonder if (1)
these guys are disinfo agents or (2) "touched"(inspired/driven) by some experience (like
Maurer) and can't help themselves but are "forced" to attend.
>
> There must be something to remote-viewing after all because none other than Tom Mahood
(the civil engineer turned physicist who exposed flaws in Lazar's stories) is quick to discount
the fantastic-sounding (rule of thumb: the wilder it sounds, the less likely it has of occurring).
But he knows everything about the prominent rv-ers. He doesn't like Dames, Morefield, or
Brown but puts a lot of faith in McMoneagle and Bucanon.
>
> Again, I'm guessing that at our current state of technology, rv-ing along the lines of the
"Star Chamber" would produce the quickest results. I'm also leaning toward the idea that the
"Montauk Project" was really what is known today as "Project Looking Glass". It seems that
they are trying to access MWI to the point (and this is really wild and frightening) of
decohering a possible timeline into existence (and winning a war without ever firing a
bullet). If you believe Nichols' account, they messed up things in the process to where we're
stuck in what would seem to be an irreversible time-loop. (BTW, Nichols had an interesting
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piece on artificial realities and Hilbert spaces which I archived at
http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Nichols_1.doc .)
>
> The great questions that have confronted Mankind are (1) are we alone in the Universe; (2)
is there Life after Death; and (3) what is the purpose/meaning of it all. [Regarding the latter,
an associate minister at my very liberal church had a short prayer where he said "God, if you
forgive all of the little sins that we commit each day, we'll forgive You for the great joke you
played on us all." Aside from the shock effect, there is some profound meaning in that.]
>
> Also related to the above is the hope that we could communicate with loved ones who have
gone on to the "other side". This gets into reincarnation stuff.
>
> Matti, it was 2 very unlikely occurrences that led me to establish my site. One was the
purely accidental discovery of a paperback called The Montauk Project: Experiments in Time
at a local mall bookstore. I never heard of it before. (Strangely, you can't find those type of
books any more. Not even in the giant bookstores. Just those dealing with ghosts and UFOs.
But not with the Philadelphia Experiment or Montauk.)
>
> The second was when I was out-of-work (downsized) and was at the public library
searching out-of-state want ads. I used to subscribe to "Aviation Week & Space Technology".
I needed a break and went over to the reference section to search for the most recent copy.
Instead my eye caught a strange-looking title on an issue of "Astronomy" magazine. "What
Happened Before the Big Bang?" by Michio Kaku. At that time, I thought such questions
were almost sacrilegious. But it got me started along the physics side of things (although I'm
more of a journalist -- not a scientist).
>
> I never read "Astronomy" before-or-since. But if it wasn't for those 2 events, I would not
be writing to you today. I don't want to think I was "predestined" or "moved" by forces
unknown. I guess there are worse things that could happen to me, however.
>
> But I am CONVINCED of a link between "UFOs" and nuclear events. And not just
detonations. You've heard of "Mothman" and the Pt. Pleasants, West Virginia "Silver
Bridge" disaster. Well, I live about 1-hour from there. On the Ohio side of the river was
some sort of atomic energy material processing plant (now closed down). There apparently
were always strange lights and such associated with that over the years. No one ever paid
much attention to them as I found out.
> I came across the persistent rumor that an above-top-secret "UFO"-related fact is buried in
the standard DOE (former AEC) "Q"-clearance in Carey Sublette's massive nuclear weapons
essays (http://www.stealthskater.com/Nuke.htm ). It apparently has nothing to do with the
physics, engineering, thermodynamic or biological effects of a nuclear detonation. One can
only wonder. Since it seems that they are trying to muffle the P-X and "Montauk", I'm
leaning toward unwanted manipulation of MWI timelines.
>
> Dr. "Ark" (of cassiopaea.org) is of the "mind-control" theory as to what "Grays" and UFO
experiences are. He has been one of Bearden's chief critics. While I believe that there are
such minds (either through Nature of chemically-induced) that can be so manipulated, I think
that it is too general an explanation to cover all reports. While eyewitness reports can be
dismissed using such arguments, how can photographs, radar tracking tapes, and video
recordings be dismissed? How can you "quantum-influence" a MACHINE (at least in the
"Macroscopic" sense -- not in the microscopic "tunnel diode" world)?
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>
> Just some food for thought ...
>
> -- Mark
The sharing of mental images by quantum entanglement is one of the basic notions of the TGD-
inspired theory of Consciousness. It makes possible to share mental images over arbitary long spatial
and temporal distances. If I were an advanced civilization, I would probably use this mechanism. And
how do we know whether our mental images are actually shared mental images;-).
Targeting sharing of mental images is of course a problem. But here the notion of magnetic body
comes in rescue. Even our magnetic bodies having onion-like structure have a size at least of order
light-life of order 100 light-years if one assumes that memories corresponding to period of lifecyle relate
to signaling from magnetic body to the brain of geometric Past and back. This picture is support
quantitatively by a successful model of EEG as communications between brain and magnetic body. For
instance, 10 Hz alpha frequency corresponds to Earth-size scale for the layer of magnetic body. The
model explains also the strange findings of Libet.
The higher the evolutionary level of system the larger the magnetic body. We would be literally
inside the habitants of higher civilizations like our cells inside us! Transpersonal consciousness without
bodily content would have natural information as consciousness associated with even larger layers of
magnetic body. If one accepts the notion of magnetic body, biological death means only directing
attention to a new more interesting target. The new view about time also means that our bodies are 4-D
and the biological body in geometric past still exists and is conscious. There is really no death in this
conceptual framework: it is just an illusion.
The space-time correlate for space-like entanglement would be what I call join along boundaries
bond. Sharing of mental images would not be signaling but fusing to a larger conscious entity as 3-
sheets of two very distance systems fuse together.
Best,
Matti
S-696. from Dr. Matti Pitkanen regarding plasma lifeforms
From: matpitka@mappi.helsinki.fi
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Thu, November 15, 2007 3:58 pm
Subject: Re: 'plasma lifeforms' (Jay Alfred)
> Matti --
>
> I came across some metaphysical stuff on "plasma lifeforms" by a 'Jay Alfred'. Some of it
sounds similar to what you hypothesized as well as some of Bearden's musings. A lot of it
was kind of "far out" in Qigong, acupuncture, meridians, "healing energies", etc. As with
Physics, I'm out of my league with these things. I don't know if any of it overlaps any of
your postulates.
>
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> It seems to be striving toward a link between dark matter/energy" and higher lifeforms (and
possibly Consciousness). Maybe these are what Bearden often refers to as the
"unobservables". Or maybe it's just a coincidence and they have nothing to do with what you
are proposing.
>
> I archived his set of 8 short essays at http://www.stealthskater.com/Science.htm#Alfred.
>
>
> Regarding Wilhelm Reich, I received the following email from someone:
>> Subject:Wilhelm Reich
>> From: Jonathan Beggs (jonbeggs@gmail.com)
>> Sent: Tue 11/13/07 12:30 PM
>> To: stealthskaters@hotmail.com
>>
>> Hello. I just encountered your very interesting website and the informative and
fair-minded article on Wilhelm Reich. Some minor corrections… In Europe, Reich
was expelled from the Psychoanalytical Association -- not the Psychiatric
Association.
>>
>> In the bion experiments, I think it's incorrect to say he worked on "radioactive
bion cultures." The unexpected and unknown radiation from the bion cultures was
not radioactivity and led Reich to the discovery of orgone energy.
>>
>> The name of his estate in Maine is Orgonon-- not Organon.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Jonathan Beggs
>
> If there is a relationship with radioactivity with Reich's "orgone" (perhaps his way of
describing dark matter/energy??), then it might give evidence for a link between nuke
"events" and what we perceive as "UFOs". Maybe Reich and Jung were on to something …
>
> -- Mark
Yes, plasmoids are the predecessors of ordinary lifeforms in the TGD-inspired model of prebiotic
evolution. With "plasmoids", I mean a system with magnetic body at which dark variants of ions and
electrons with large Planck constant reside and quantum control the visible part of the system.
The recent findings about dust as able to generate DNA double strands conform with this idea. See
my blog "From Dust to Dust" to get links.
-- Matti
S-697. from Jonathan Beggs regarding Reich and Tesla
From: "Jonathan Beggs" <jonbeggs@gmail.com>
To: kram@stealthskater.com
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Date: Sat, November 17, 2007 12:48 am
Subject: Re: Wilhelm Reich, Nikola Tesla, Matti Pitkanen
Hi Mark,
The corrections are due to a long biographical article by a Dr. Cantwell (or something close to that).
On the book burning, Reich had the unenviable distinction of having his books burned by the
governments of the USSR, Germany, and U.S. Each time ostensibly for different reasons. "Counter-
revolutionary propaganda" in USSR; "Jewish filth" in Nazi Germany; "Labeling for an unapproved
medical device" in the U.S.
In this country, the rationale developed as follows. Sellers of "snake oil" used to label their
merchandise with spurious or unsubstantiated medical claims and were prosecuted on the basis of "false
labeling". They learned to omit the claims on the bottle's label and print them on a brochure supplied
separately. So the FDA had the laws changed so that any printed material (e.g., ad, brochure, journal
article, book) issued by the seller which alludes to an unapproved drug or medical device can be
considered labeling for that drug or device.
When the FDA won an injunction against Reich and Silvert defining the orgone accumulator as an
unapproved medical device, then all of Reich's work that contained a reference to "orgone
accumulators" or even orgone energy could be considered 'labeling' and could be destroyed. If Reich
had chosen to edit out all such references (i.e., censor himself), the books could have remained in print.
Reich understandably refused to do that and even declined to identify the several books written before
the discovery of orgone energy and containing no references to it. The FDA had no interest in doing so.
Thus everything was burned.
What needs to be emphasized is that the injunction was against Reich, Silvert, and an organization (I
forget the name) and only against them. It is concerned with their labeling of an unapproved medical
device that they introduced into interstate commerce. It does not enjoin you or me or anyone else from
any behavior regarding orgone accumulators or writing about them. Current manufacturers of orgone
accumulators are safe as long as they don't make medical claims about them. All of Reich's books are
currently in print without any omissions because the publisher is not manufacturing a medical device.
> " …the same authorities confiscated much of Tesla's private works…"
I don't know anything about the confiscation of Tesla's work. But are you sure it was the same authority
(the FDA)? Seems unlikely.
3. That's interesting-- I didn't know that. By "mass sighting" do you mean a large number of viewers at
the same time or a large number of UFOs at the same time?
On Nov 16, 2007 4:39 PM, <kram@stealthskater.com> wrote:
> Hi Jonathan --
>
> Thanks for your input on Reich. I will make those corrections once I find what archived
documents they were in.
>
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> "Where there's smoke, there is usually fire." I find it most interesting that (1) the U.S.
Government ordered all of Reich's books burned; (2) the same authorities confiscated much
of Tesla's private works after his death; and (3) when the worldwide moratorium on above-
and below-ground nuclear testing was declared in the late 80s, there were no more mass UFO
sightings.
>
> On my own, I found rumors of a small-but-secret part of the standard DOE "Q" clearance
that relates to "UFOs". And some effects of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki blasts remain top-
secret to this day despite having nothing to do with the physics, engineering,
thermodynamics blast effects, or biological effects of nuclear detonations.
>
> Tom Bearden has postulated that radioactivity can be "neutralized" in 13 minutes (thereby
eliminating the need for long-term nuclear waste storage). I don't know if Reich's work
touched upon these top-secret "conventional" nuclear effects or if some unknown energy can
interact with the them. Whatever it is, it was declared "taboo" by the authorities along with
Tesla's "scalar" stuff.
*Reich's Oranur experiment deals with the interaction of orgone and nuclear material. Very big and
scary results reported but never replicated.
Somewhere around here I have an article on neutron bombardment of radioactive wastes. The
process is postulated to be self sustaining and transmutes the material into a non-radioactive isotope or
element. It appeared in "Infinite Energy" a few years ago.
I don't have the math or physics background to follow Bearden and I am convinced by John Bedini's
work that Bearden knows much that's important. I do remember however in the '80s he was quite
insistent on the existence of menacing Tesla scalar weapons in the USSR. With the upheavals of
perestroika and the break up of the USSR which resulted in a large number of unemployed physicists
we'd have heard more about it if it were true.*
> Dr. Matti Pitkanen (http://www.stealthskater.com/Pitkanen.htm ) has proposed a 8-D
TopologicalGeometroDynamics theory that unites GR with WM and reduces to
superstrings/M-branes under "normal" conditions. Matti has kept the door open on Reich,
Tesla, and Royal Rife (virus microscope). Misc. remarks posted at >
http://wyzwyrlde.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=1650.html (and more generally at
http://wyzwyrlde.com/Forums.html ).
>
> Best Regards --
> -- Mark
All the Best,
Jonathan
S-698. from Dr. Matti Pitkanen regarding a Collective Conciousness
From: matpitka@mappi.helsinki.fi
To: kram@stealthskater.com
Date: Tue, November 27, 2007 11:24 pm
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Subject: Re: where there's a will, there's a way
> > Thanks. I respect Everett's imagination although I am not believer on Everett
because I cannot make any mathematical sense of his interpretation. I think the basic
mistake is to attempt get over it just by interpreting. Much more is required. In any
case, it is interesting to learn about private life of people like Everett. I wonder what
my children will say when I am dead and buried;-).
> Tegmark seems to envision multiple worlds and parallel worlds from his Scientific
American article (see .../Tegmark_1.doc). He mentioned the Everett MWI as one of 4
possible scenarios.
>
> It boggles one's mind to think of all that quantum splitting and the Macroscpic results.
Like you, I think that Occam's Razor would envelope Everett's theory in a more simplistic
form.
>
> The only explanation that I've heard for the different "views" that remote-viewers report is
that they are viewing other quantumly-possible worlds/timelines. Now regarding that magic
ca. 2012 date, they supposedly can see before and after it but not during. Dan Sherman's
"Project Preserve Destiny" seems to bolster that.
>
> I know the history of the Internet and the sharing of particle accelerator data. If I let my
imagination go a la Everett, I would find it amazing that the Internet has exploded and
contains the most insignificant stuff about so many, many people. Almost if it were being
used as a giant databank of all Humanity's consciousness to re-seed the human race after
some great cataclysm (ergo "Project Preserve Destiny"). But it would take something like
Dan Burisch's "ganesh particle" to do that.
>
> I always felt that one of the great injustices of someone's lifetime was that they could not
be adequately honored (or in some cases, appropriately punished) while they were still alive.
Take Tesla for example. It has taken decades for him to start receiving his just due.
>
> Kaku hypothesized that George Gamow -- the Russian cosmologist who discovered the
quantum tunneling principle -- never was nominated for a Nobel Prize because he had a
hobby of writing children's books and for that reason his peers may not have respected him
as much as they should have.
>
> On a sober note, Corso prefaced his book with a quote from the American frontiersman
Davy Crockett: "Be sure you're right ... then go ahead."
>
> On a more humorous side (but perhaps philosophically correct), an associate pastor at my
church would end his prayers (to a small circle of his closer friends) with something like "if
You forgive us for all of the little sins we commit each day, God, then we will forgive You for
the big joke You played on all of us."
>
> I was kind of a loner all my life, Matti. My parents used to worry about it and tried to force
me to get involved with more people. That just wasn't my nature, however. There's
advantages and disadvantages, of course. I never had that many friends (my choosing, not
theirs). And what few I had seem to have withdrawn due to what they thought was a
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fanatical pursuit of "taboo" subjects. I too have often wondered how I will be remembered or
whether my life was worth anything. At least you had children.
>
> Perhaps the "Doc Savage" adventures will inspire some idea. The "DS000.doc" is a
fascinating insight into the life of Lester Dent -- the series creator. Perhaps you could take a
cue from him (in many cases, he was a real-life "Doc Savage") and intertwine your physics
theories into such adventures. Just a thought ...
>
> Later --
> -- Mark
Quantum parallelism is of course okay. But instead of the splitting of universe to infinite number of
parallel variants continually (which I simply cannot define in any mathematically sensible manner), I
believe in selection of one branch in each quantum jump. If new view about relation of subjective and
geometric Time is accepted, this allows to resolve the basic paradox of quantum measurement theory.
This is for me the basic constraint on theory.
Someone has said that thinkers are lonely. I would perhaps say that young thinkers tend to be
lonely. After my divorce, I felt desperate loneliness. Divorce was the most painful experience of my
life and it took decade to get over it. I must say, however, that the more close my theory has come to the
reality, the more people have become my friends. Suddenly I find myself talking with many people
during the day, exchanging emails, influencing people, etc. I have also got rid most of my neurosis,
fears, and phobias.
Dreams are for me much more than fiction. I see them as reality experienced in a different mode of
consciousness. In dreams, I am not lonely. I receive continually acceptance and encouragement from
my friends and also people that I have not seen for decades or even people that I have never met. Even
my daytime enemies in the academic world are my friends during dreams!
During the last years, I have rather concretely experienced during dreams how dramatic
transformation is gradually taking place in collective consciousness. TGD is much more than a theory
assignable to the name of some person. It is not only a new world view but a Living Being. I feel
myself to be one of those who have first become conscious about the birth and growth of this
magnificent meme. And my role has been to provide metabolic and cognitive resources for it to build
itself. I am absolutely sure that more and more people are receiving the message communicated
through me also in wake-time consciousness.
It is not pleasant to be completely aware of doing something very important and being brutally
silenced. We need the support and respect of community for devoting lifetime to something which
brings no personal rewards. I think that intentional silencing is most often in question. Kind of a
revenge of those who did not make anything to be remembered. But this represents only the surface
showing itself to us in daytime consciousness. In dream reality, things are different. And I am sure that
this dream reality is much more than representation of our desires.
S-699. from Paul Devine regarding E-115, Robert Collins, Walter Rodd Zechel
From: "paul devine" <grandfatherpaul@yahoo.com>
To: stealthskaters@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 14:29:19 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: re: E-115, Collins, w/ PS RE Walter Todd Zechel
>>Mark,
>>
>>I was just looking at the entry for " Robert Collins " as guest on C2C. ( He's going
to be guest on the program Sunday. nite/Monday morning again). In the guest entry,
he refers to an element "H5" as follows:
>>
>>"He also spoke about "H5," an unstable element used in alien propulsion that can
purportedly extract energy out of a vacuum. Scientists were not successful in trying to
stabilize it at tests conducted at Los Alamos, he added. "
>>
>>A carelessly-written "H" could look like a " 1 1 ", so that "H5" could become
"115". Thus Lazar's "element 115" could be at least partially explained. What do
you think?
>>
>Paul,
> I'm actually "down" on Collins, Dratch, and "semi-down" on Knapp, Bearden, and
Hamilton.
>
>Collins once told me to remove what I had previously archived from his site but that I could
archive anything that was currently on his site. Then he shortly reneged on that. His actions
(not just the ones directed my way) back up what he says that he was -- an AIr Force
Intelligence officer. IMO, he is a disinfo agent. He complained that he thought I had too
much stuff on my site. I interpreted that to mean that I was on the right track.
>
>Recently I've had to add code to block certain IP addresses that were consuming precious
bandwidth at my site. Just came out of the blue. Seem to be interesting in the Burisch and
Lazar stuff.
>
>I had read that E-115 might actually be a "super atom" of sorts composed of Hydrogen-5 or
even Bismuth. Lazar said that conventional tests to determine the number of protons in E-
115 failed and it was his unorthodox solution that was his primary contribution to Project
Galileo. (He didn't give the specifics, though.) But this alternative approach leaves the door
open for other interpretations. For instance, what if E-115 were some highly-packed matrix
composed of smaller atoms. Maybe in some sort of unique configuration that the matrix
acted and appeared as a single (i.e., "super") atom? Such a unique matrix might change the
properties of the weak nuclear force (i.e., radioactive decay) and make for an "atom" with a
long half-life.
>
>For my money, Lazar did something that pissed off the government. The jury is still out as
to whether this had anything to with UFOs. Of course, it could be argued that the post-Lazar
stuff was an elaborate disinfo scheme to make others think that Lazar was really being
persecuted. Mahood already mentioned that possibility.
>
>And I'm not so sure about Tom Mahood. At first, I thought he was the like the rest of us.
But he humbly admitted to me as having "some experience in propulsion technology". Since
he contradicted some of his earlier public statements, I wonder if he is now part of the disinfo
effort. All of this occured during the late-80s when NASA announced its "Breaktrhough
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Propulsion Projection" (that was later "watered down" to something more conventional);
insider notes on Dean Kaman's "Ginger" (or simply "It") invention that appeared to be what I
saw in a TV documentary (almost magical!) that would later be "watered down" to his
Segway; the worldwide moratorium on nuke tests (and the subsequent drastic decline in UFO
sightings); Bob Lazar; Dean Kaman's and public revelation of the so-called "Montauk
Project".
>
>It was the last that eventually consumed most of my interest and put UFOs on the back
burner. You can't find any Montauk-related books in mall bookstores anymore like in the
mid-90s. Nichols and "Moon" did enough on off-topics and personal issues to help sway the
"benefit-of-the-doubt" against them. Even Marshall Barnes and Alexandra Bruce have
bolted from the Sky Books/Incunabula (Joe Matheny) camp. And Bielek's contributions are
just too way, way out.
>
>But Wilhelm Reich's private stuff is now open to scientists 50 years after his death per his
request. And Dr. Matti Pitkanen was one who was interested. (I haven't heard from him for
a while, come to think of it.) I wish they would do that for Tesla's and RIfe's material. What
Reich called "orgone" may turn out to be Pitkanen's "plasmoids". And I never heard of Reich
until I read the Montauk books -- i.e., that it was the Philadelphia Experiment's "Project
Rainbow" coupled with weather-controlling radiosondes (based on Reichian "orgone"
technology) that eventually led to Project Phoenix I, II, and III (to be collectively called the
Montauk Project -- a new look into the true nature of "time" -- both Einsteinian (geometric)
and what Pitkanen calls "experienced").
>
>Did you get my previous email concerning the Russian "woodpecker" signal? I sent it from
my other account. But Yahoo! may have stuck it in your 'Bulk' folder (you should check
there). I'll attach that extract from Deyo's book to this email.
>
>-- Mark
Mark,
In no particular order:
(1) I got your "woodpecker" sending. It showed up where it should have -- in my "Inbox"! In the past,
my own particular Yahoo! account has had a number in parentheses after the "Bulk" label whenever
there is something there. I have you marked as a "safe" correspondent. But thank you for the warning,
anyway. It never hurts to keep one's eyes open and to check.
(2) RE whether-or-not the mystery propulsion ingredient of space flight is a pure element or a mixture: I
thought that "H5" was a safer designation than "Element-115". Why? Because of issues of purity
whenever you use the word "element". In reality, in Nature there is no such thing as an absolutely clean
and immaculately pure element. You can come close to 100% purity. But you can never attain it
completely. There's always going to be something else mixed in.
Therefore stories of "Element-115" cannot be exactly true as stated. All you can try to do is to try to
identify the active ingredient in a mix and then try to maximize the amount of that. A famous literary
example of the fact -- and the significance -- of impurities is in the famous story of Dr. Jekyll and Mr.
Hyde. In the story, it was some impurity -- in what was supposed to be a Merck-pure product -- that
allowed the reversion back to "Doctor" from "Mister". When the doctor's original supply of his product
ran out, he had to replace it. Unfortunately, the replacement was missing the original impurity which is
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not supposed to have been there in the first place! Therefore the "Mister" could no longer revert to the
"Doctor". And he got caught and killed. So I prefer some kind of "H5" terminology. This latter
terminology has the advantage of allowing a compound, with all the impurities that in fact can never
actually ever be gotten rid of completely.
(3) RE the "too much stuff" of Collins and how that might mean you are doing a good job: You could
well be right!
(4) Pitkanen: I have put those sendings in a separate folder as I have not yet had time to read them. I
remember having told you about Pitkanen -- as something new to you -- only to have you turn around
and point out to me that you already had him mounted on your site!
(5) RE Collins again: I hope you did for Collins as you did for Bearden! When Bearden got in touch
with you about his stuff on your site, you simply put it into some kind of restricted access park
someplace. I hope you did as much for Collins! If Collins is "government intelligence", then the
chances are that he knows something. The fact that as "intelligence" he may well have an extreme
world-view -- a very extreme world-view, in fact -- does not change the fact that there might well be
something worthwhile that he inadvertently let slip and that should not be lost to posterity! This is true
even though he -- being "intelligence" -- may also be "cointelpro" as well. There may well be some
useful "info" buried in all the "disinfo"!
- Paul
PS. Do you recognize the name "Walter Todd Zechel"? Are you "down" on him as well? It turns out
that he lived and just recently (Nov. , 2006) died only a few dozen miles from Madison, Wisconsin
where I live. I had not know this. Just recently, I encountered a confidante of Zechel's. It seems that
Zechel had loaned some of his material to this confidante. Of course, it cannot now be "returned to
sender" any longer. And there are some next-of-kin in the picture.
But do you think that, in principle, you might have any interest in Zechel's material in case that it might
become available for consultation at some later date? It has been described to me (I have not seen it) as
something that you could get into a single manila folder in the palm of your hand. Under what
circumstances -- if any -- might you be interested in such material? We can worry later on about access
(in case the stuff should become accessible at all) on any terms. (For example, I MAY be making a trip
out to the WDC area for a few days ca. the end of May / the beginning of June.). Zechel's principal
website appears to have been www.eyepod.org/Invstgtr-Zechel.htm with "W. Todd Zechel - Bio" as
title. I used Yahoo! to search his name. It seems that his main claim to fame was an article that Bruce
Maccabee wrote in refutation of what Maccabee evidently believed to be an attack on himself by Zechel.
Where do we stand on the subject of one Bruce Maccabee?
~ P .
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