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Kentucky Association of Professional Surveyors
2 The Interior Angle, Spring 2020
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Director/Publications/Newsletter/Editor
Justin Drury, PLS—editor@kaps1.com
Publisher
Jackie Hawkins—Jackie@kaps1.com
From the President’s Desk 4
Certified Survey Technician
Program 6
Board of Licensure Contact
Information 9
Board of Licensure Calendar 11
Meet our Chapter Chairs 11
Board of Licensure Report 12
The Measuring Woman 16
KAPS Board Meeting Minutes 20
KAPS 2019 General
Membership Meeting Minutes 22
Chapter Reports 23
Pictures from Conference 24
Results of Conference Poll 28
2020 KAPS Golf Outing &
Picnic *DATE CHANGED* 32
2020 KAPS Membership 35
Table of Contents ADVERTISEMENT POLICY
The Interior Angle is the official publication of the Kentucky
Association of Professional Surveyors (KAPS). It is published
quarterly to communicate with the professional surveying com-
munity as well as those in related professions and others with an
interest in surveying. The Interior Angle is financed primarily by
membership dues, although advertisements are welcome from
service and product industries relating to the needs and activities
of the profession. The Interior Angle is provided to KAPS mem-
bers and similar organizations on a complimentary basis.
Articles and advertisements appearing in this publication are not
the policy of the association unless specifically stated. The asso-
ciation does not assume any responsibility for statements made
or opinions expressed in the articles, advertisements or other
portions of this publication. Articles may not be reproduced in
whole or in part without the written permission of the editor.
The Interior Angle welcomes and encourages comments, opin-
ions and responses by readers. Letters should be addressed to:
Editor — The Interior Angle
P.O. Box 211418
Louisville, KY 40221
Letters must be signed and include a daytime telephone number.
The name of the letter’s author may be withheld if requested.
Letters may be edited for clarity and length.
The Interior Angle is published quarterly. All advertisements are
published as a service to readers, and their publication does not
imply or express any endorsement or recommendation by
KAPS. The rates are:
Kentucky Association of Professional Surveyors
3 The Interior Angle, Spring 2020
KAPS 2020
Officers & Directors
Officers
President
President Elect
Vice President of External Affairs
Vice President of Internal Affairs
Past President
Secretary
Treasurer
Greg Barker, PLS
Bob Smith, PLS
Josh Calico, PLS
Kevin Phillips, PLS
Nick Jerdon, PLS
Jason Graves, PLS
James Mayo, PLS
Ex-Officio Directors
Professional Development
NSPS Director
Kentucky Board of Licensure Liaison
KSPE Liaison
Mike Ladnier, PLS
Craig Palmer, PLS
Jason Graves, PLS
Nick Jerdon, PLS
Directors
Jon Payne, PLS
Justin Drury, PLS
James Mayo, PLS
Jason Graves, PLS
Rich Murphy, PLS
Tom Bushelman, PLS
Chapter Chairpersons
Audubon Barren River Bluegrass-Capital Falls of the Ohio Green River Highlands Jackson Purchase Northern Kentucky Southeast
Mike Ladnier, PLS Chris Higgins, PLS
Tim Tong, PLS Mike Billings, PLS
Mike McKinney, PLS John Justice, PLS James Knoth, PLS David Blaker, PLS
Curtis Felts, PLS
KAPS Office Staff Executive Director Jackie Hawkins
PLEASE NOTE: Due to limited office hours, email is the
best way to reach us! Jackie@KAPS1.com
P.O. Box 211418, Louisville, KY 40221
502-695-2349—Call or Text
An Affiliate of
the American Congress on Surveying and Mapping
and the National Society of Professional Surveyors
KAPS 2020 Standing Committee
Chairs & Co-Chairs:
Annual Conference
Annual Picnic
By-Laws
County Surveyor Education
Ethics & Professional Practice
Finance
Legislative
Membership
Nominating
Past Presidents
Policy Manual
Professional Development
Public Relations
Publications/Newsletter
Scholarship
Tim Tong, PLS
Bob Smith, PLS
Thomas Bushelman, PLS
Bob Smith, PLS
Josh Calico, PLS
James Mayo, PLS
Thomas Bushelman, PLS
Jon Payne, PLS
Greg Barker, PLS
Nick Jerdon, PLS
Thomas Bushelman, PLS
Jon Payne, PLS
Kevin Phillips, PLS
Justin Drury, PLS
John St. Clair, PLS
2020 Special Committee Chairs
Kentucky/Tennessee
Boundary Stone
Board of Licensure Nominations
Continuing Education Hours
Mike Ladnier, PLS
Jason Graves, PLS
Nick Jerdon, PLS
2021 KAPS Conference 2/11—2/13 Clarion, Lexington, Kentucky
Featuring:
Gary Kent & Jennifer DiBona
Kentucky Association of Professional Surveyors
4 The Interior Angle, Spring 2020
Greg Barker, PLS
2020 President, Gbarker@vioxinc.com, 859-727-4500
From the President’s Desk Greetings KAPS Members, Supporters, and Vendors,
The very successful 2020 conference has come and
gone. Thank you to all who attended and to all our
vendors who supported the event. We appreciate the
support of you, Precision Products, Geo-Tronics,
Hayes Instrument, Hall & Company, The
Underground Detective, Javad Authorized
Representatives, Leica Geosystems, U.S. Army
Corps of Engineers, GRW, Carlson Software,
Skytec, LLC, & Cincinnati State. You are the groups,
companies, and individuals who make this effort worth
it. Your support, encouragement, and constructive
criticism is sought and needed. Our conference
committee worked very diligently to secure a wide
range of topics and speakers. We are very fortunate to
have KAPS members who are willing take the time,
effort, and expense to put a program together for the
benefit our fellowship. As an organization we are
grateful for these Professional Surveyors and
professionals who are willing to help: Mike Wilson,
Nick Jerdon, Jason Graves, Jon Payne, Mathew
Clark, Justin Drury, Tim Tong, Ben Shinabery, Jeff
Clark, Josh Ayoroa, Stephen Chino, Christina
Groves, Laura Ledbetter, and Stephen Chino.
We are currently reaching out to speakers for 2021.
If you have a topic you are interested in, please reach
out to me or KAPS Executive Director, Jackie
Hawkins. KAPS is constantly searching for new topics
of interest, and enthusiastic speakers. No experience
required; just a topic of expertise and a willingness to
teach. Jon Payne is leading our education committee
this year, and has created some helpful tools to help new
teachers prepare their classes, and each region has a
dedicated mentor to help you through the process.
There has never been a better time to learn how to teach
a class!
Golf Outing Scholarship Fundraiser will be held at
the Old Kentucky Home State Park in Bardstown. June
12th will be here before you
know it, so now is the time to
start pulling your team together for a great time
raising money for a wonderful cause! It’s only $75
per player (4-players per team). If you can’t hit a golf
ball to save your life, you can still support the
fundraiser by being a Golf Hole Sponsor! KAPS
Family Picnic to immediately follow!
New licensees Congratulations to these three new
licensees: Ryan Stevens, PLS 4293, of Frankfort,
Justin Wilnot, PLS 4318, of Lancaster, and Nathan
Johnson, PLS 4305, of Virgie. Welcome to the ranks
of Professional Surveying, gentlemen. I look forward
to meeting all of you at the annual KAPS conference.
COVID-19 is bringing new challenges to all of us.
Many of us are doing as much office work as we can
at home. Those who are working on two person crews
are being asked to drive in separate vehicles. We’re
caring around hand sanitizer, wet wipes, and thoughts
of viruses jumping on us from all directions. Working
as a surveyor out in the open country never felt so
good. We are blessed. Don’t take this stuff for
granted, please. Be safe, take precautions, and stay
healthy. May God bless you, and keep you and yours
healthy, safe, and sane.
Sincerely,
Greg Barker, PLS
KAPS President
KAPS Corporate Member
Kentucky Association of Professional Surveyors
5 The Interior Angle, Spring 2020
D
uring a recent KAPS board meeting, held
prior to our annual Conference in February, the topic
of the CST Program came up. Until this point, I was
unaware of the CST program. For the better part of
my career, I operated without employees or office
staff. The need for a career ladder or evaluation tool
for non-license track employees, just wasn’t on the
radar. Apparently there has been a spike in interest in
this program. Not only as a resume builder for
companies seeking contracts, but also as an incentive
program for employee advancement and
compensation. This topic seemed to fit well with the
poll about career expectations, we put together and
distributed to the attendees at the conference. So, I
decided to educate myself about the CST program.
Here is what I found.
The program has two main tracks. An office
track and a field track. The office tract being your
various office software technicians. The field track
being for those that perform surveying duties in the
field. Each track has four levels. Each level builds
upon a base set of knowledge and skills, while adding
components oversight and management. At the
culmination of level four, NSPS CST Program Book
states “The Board recognizes that in many Surveying
and Mapping firms the principle/professional performs
the tasks and functions of a chief of parties/office
manager. However, in many other firms those tasks
are performed by technicians. The purpose of this
exam (Level IV), is to test and certify those
individuals.”1
Another key topic from this KAPS meeting
was a report from the Kentucky State Board of
Licensure, that a majority of recent Professional
Surveying Licenses, are from out of state reciprocity
applications, and not newly licensed individuals. No
matter how you land on this topic, the numbers are
trending toward a negative balance in attrition among
licensed professional surveyors in the state. Without
going down the rabbit hole of what factors attribute
to this trend, I suppose we take a collective look at a
viable “alternate path” to certify those individuals
that contribute to and are representative of our
profession, but are not on a tract to getting a
Professional Surveying License. I’m sure we all
have that trusted crew chief and employee, that has
“done this for years.” They have same experience
and knowledge that any licensee does to perform
surveys, collect data, layout for construction,
interpret plans and records, and represent our firms to
the public. I believe there is one key difference.
Boundary analysis. It takes four years of school,
eight years of experience, and the passing two exams
to get your PLS. This is what it takes to ensure an
induvial has the knowledge, experience and skill to
properly acquire and apply measurement data to
boundary principals when determining lines of
ownership. This in turn protects the public.
Alternately, there is what I like to refer to as a
“spatial expert.” One familiar with the tools,
procedures, and all other aspects of collecting and
validating spatial data. I think this umbrella falls
nicely over both tracts of the CST. The proper
collection and validation of data for all types of
(Continued on page 7)
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surveys and yes even boundary related, is
what the four levels of the CST certify for in
the field tract. Geospatial coordination and
proper drafting are certified in the office tract. In our
ever-evolving world of 3D scanning, Point Clouds,
UAV Photogrammetry, LiDAR, 3D modeling, high
accuracy GIS, what it means to be a Professional Land
Surveyor, is also evolving into two distinct tracts.
There is the traditional licensed professional that has a
state certification to determine bounds of owner ship,
and what could essentially be CTS Level 4, or spatial
expert.
Much like the subdisciplines in the Civil
engineering profession, a boundary (PLS) and non -
boundary (CST) specialization, are possible under the
surveying discipline. With wider acceptance and
utilization of the CST certification, it will begin to
reflect the professional value those individuals that are
not on the traditional licensing track bring to the table.
The best news is the CST program is already in place
and has been for long time. There is some onus on
NSPS to continuously evaluate the certification
material, to reflect modern equipment and procedures.
I have reviewed the study guides and materials list for
all four levels on the NSPS site, and feel the material is
current without just being an evaluation of if one can
operate the latest equipment.
Currently, it takes four years of education,
passing of two exams and four years of work
experience, to obtain a professional surveying license
in the State of Kentucky. And, that’s ok. This
maintains the integrity of the profession. It certifies
those individuals that are determining lines of
ownership, have proven a knowledge of properly
applying boundary principles. Now let’s think about
all the other work we do that would fall into the
“spatial expert” category. Control networks,
coordinate systems, 3D model validation, 3D layout,
Photogrammetry, Lidar mapping, just to name a few.
Could the CST evolve into a professional certification
for those that can show an expertise in these
operations? Let’s face it, our support staff is no longer
just chopping line and packing stakes and rebar. They
are performing highly technical field operations, with
ever evolving, state of the art equipment and software.
Does KAPS have room to be Kentucky Association of
Professional Surveyors and Certified Survey
Technicians? Food for thought. I look forward to
thoughts and comments. Please feel free to reach out
at editor@kaps1.com
1. “CST Program Book.” Cst, NSPS, 18 Dec. 2018,
cstnsps.com/cst-program-book.
Justin Drury, PLS, TIA Editor &
Contributor, teaches surveying
seminars on cemetery law.
Kentucky Association of Professional Surveyors
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2020 KY State Board of Licensure Board of Directors
The Kentucky State Board of Licensure for Professional Engineers and Land Surveyors (KYBOELS) was
established by the General Assembly in 1938 to protect the public health, safety and welfare. This is accom-
plished through the licensing and monitoring of individuals and firms deemed qualified to practice.
Among the services KYBOELS provides to engineers and surveyors and the public are licensure, reciprocity,
examinations, and investigations and regulatory compliance. KYBOELS is not associated with the Kentucky
Society of Professional Engineers; however, KYBOELS resides in the Kentucky Engineering Center as a
leasee of KSPE.
Statutes and regulations regarding engineering and surveying law in Kentucky are available on the
KYBOELS website, http://kyboels.ky.gov. If you have specific questions not addressed here, please contact
the board office at 800-573-2680 or 502-573-2680.
William A. Bowie - PE, PLS Vice Chair wbowie@twc.com
Christopher Gephart - PLS Board Member chrisgephart@bayerbecker.com
Ed Manning—PE, PLS Executive Director jamese.manning@ky.gov
Herb Goff - PE Chair hgoff@donan.com
Nicole R Galavotti - PE Board Member nicole_galavotti@shieldmw.com
Wanda Jordan Executive Assistant wanda.jordan@ky.gov
Daniel Clay Kelly - PE Secretary clay.kelly@strand.com
David Cole Mitcham - PE Board Member Cole.Mitcham@amwater.com
Jonathan Doran Buckley General Counsel jonathand.buckley@ky.gov
James J. Bertram, Jr. - PLS Board Member bsurveying@yahoo.com
Ryan Carl Griffith - PE Board Member ryan.griffith@ky.gov
Kyle Elliott - PLS Director of Enforcement kyle.elliott@ky.gov
Rudolph Buchheit - Ph.D Board Member rudolph.buchheit@uky.edu
Tamra Chesser Land Surveying Licensure/ Continuing Education tamra.chesser@ky.gov
Doug Klein Board Member doug.klein@uky.edu
Heather Baldwin, PE, PLS Investigator heatherl.baldwin@ky.gov
Melissa Kopp Engineering Licensure/ Business Entity Permits melissa.kopp@ky.gov
Emmanuel Collins - Ph.D Board Member emmanuel.collins@louisville.edu
Sandra Whisman Legal & Enforcement Assistant sandra.whisman@ky.gov
Board Members
Staff
Staff
Kentucky Association of Professional Surveyors
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Kentucky State Board of Licensure Calendar of Events 2020
April 17 Paper and Pencil PE & STR Vertical Exams Louisville KY April 18 STR Horizontal Exam Louisville KY April 16 Committee Meetings Frankfort KY April 17 Board Meeting Frankfort KY April 23-25 NCEES Joint Western/Southern Zone Mtg. Houston TX July 30 Committee Meetings Frankfort KY July 31 Board Meeting Frankfort KY August 26-29 NCEES Annual Meeting Chicago IL October 22 Industrial & Fire Protection PE exams Select Pearson (First Computer Based Administration) Testing Centers October 22 Committee Meetings Frankfort KY October 23 Board Meeting Frankfort KY October 23 Paper and Pencil PE & STR Vertical Exams Louisville KY October 24 STR Horizontal Exam Louisville KY
2020 Chapter Chairs
Chris Higgins, PLS
chrish@scottyscontracting.com
Barren River Bluegrass-Capital Audubon Falls of the Ohio
Mike McKinney, PLS
bnnmckinney@yahoo.com
Tim Tong, PLS
TTong@grwinc.com
Mike Billings, PLS
mbillings@engdesgrp.com Mike Ladnier, PLS
audubon.kaps@gmail.com
Highlands Jackson Purchase Green River Northern Kentucky
John Justice, PLS
jrjustice0927@gmail.com
James Knoth, PLS
james@knothsurveying.com
David Blaker, PLS
blakersurveying@gmail.com
Curtis Felts, PLS
curtisfeltslps@windstream.net
Southeast
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Computer Based Testing - Update
The conversion to computer based testing is going
well and is on schedule. With the elimination of the
state specific surveying exam in late 2018, the entire
exam process for land surveyors is now completely
computer based.
For engineers, we are still in a period of transition.
At this time, the fundamentals exams for all
disciplines of engineering are computer based.
The principals and practice exams, which are
discipline specific are being transitioned to the
computer based format a few at a time. As of now,
the PE exams for Chemical, Nuclear, Environmental,
and Petroleum Engineering are computer based.
The last “paper and pencil” exams for Mechanical
Engineering were given last fall. All three options of
Mechanical Engineering exams will be available for
Computer Based testing sometime around April 1.
Due to the fact that there is a relatively small number
of examinees for Industrial and Fire Protection, these
exams will be given only one day a year. This is the
case for all of the exams with a relatively small
number of examinees and is necessary to maintain the
psychometric integrity of the exams. This year’s test
date for Industrial and Fire Protection is October 22,
2020.
Other disciplines will be converted according to the
timetable below.
2021 – Electrical, Agricultural, Mining
2022 – Software, Naval Architecture
2023 – Civil
2024 – Structural
Late Firm Renewals - Reminder
Any firm that missed the December 31, 2019 deadline
to renew its Firm Permit (also known as Business
The Board of Licensure Report January 2020
James Ed Manning, Executive Director Kentucky State Board of Licensure for Professional Engineers and Land Surveyors Kentucky Engineering Center, 160 Democrat Drive, Frankfort, Kentucky 40601
Entity Permit) may still renew its permit online for up
to a year from the date of expiration. The system will
calculate a 10% per month late renewal penalty.
A word of caution however; the late renewal
provision notwithstanding, the offering or providing
of professional services through a firm having an
expired permit is prohibited and can result in
disciplinary action.
You can check the license/permit status of any
person/firm using our online searchable roster…
https://elsweb.kyboels.ky.gov/kweb/Searchable-
Roster.
If after checking the roster you are still uncertain as to the status of an individual or firm, contact our office for assistance. Calendar of Events 2020 April 17 Paper and Pencil PE & STR Vertical Exams, Louisville KY April 18 STR Horizontal Exam , Louisville KY April 16 Committee Meetings, Frankfort KY April 17 Board Meeting, Frankfort KY April 23-25 NCEES Joint Western/Southern Zone Mtg., Houston TX July 30 Committee Meetings, Frankfort KY July 31 Board Meeting, Frankfort KY August 26-29 NCEES Annual Meeting, Chicago IL October 22 Industrial & Fire Protection PE exams Select Pearson (First Computer Based Administration) Testing Centers October 22 Committee Meetings, Frankfort KY October 23 Board Meeting, Frankfort KY October 23 Paper and Pencil PE & STR Vertical Exams, Louisville KY October 24 STR Horizontal Exam , Louisville KY
(Continued on page 13)
Kentucky Association of Professional Surveyors
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ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS SUMMARY For The Period October 26, 2019– January 31, 2020 Kyle Elliott, Director of Enforcement FRANKLIN BLAKE ADAMS, PE, PLS
In 2017, the Board of Licensure received a complaint
regarding two surveys by Mr. Adams. A Board
investigation found that in 2012 Adams had surveyed
land of the complainant and had provided a Plat of
Survey of his property. However, Adams was of the
opinion that the lines he marked on the ground and on
the plat were not an accurate location of the property
boundaries. Adams did not sign or seal the plat, nor
did he identify the plat as work that did “not represent
a boundary survey and is not intended for land
transfer”. In 2016, the complainant filed a civil suit
against his neighbor, in which he represented Adams’
plat as the authoritative location of the boundary
lines. During the course of the civil litigation, the
complainant agreed in court to a resolution of the
disputed boundary, by agreeing that the opposing
party hire Mr. Adams to resurvey the disputed lines,
with the resulting location to be accepted by the Court
as the true location of the lines. Adams resurvey
differed significantly from his earlier survey, and the
Court accepted the later survey as the location of the
lines. In 2012, when Adams presented the first plat,
which did not meet the requirements of Section 13 of
the Standards of Practice, to his client with every
indication that it was a boundary survey, he violated
both the Standards of Practice and Section 3 of the
Code of Professional Conduct, which requires a
licensee to “issue all professional communications
and work product in an objective and truthful
manner”, and specifically requires that all material
facts shall be included. The investigation also
established multiple violations of the CPD
requirements as set out in 201 KAR 18:192 and 196,
and other violations of the Standards of Practice, all
of which subject Adams to disciplinary actions under
KRS 322.180. To resolve the Board’s disciplinary
matters, Mr. Adams agreed to enter into a Consent
Decree wherein he acknowledged the violations and
agreed to: (1) have his professional land surveying
license suspended for six months; (2) pay a $3,000.00
fine; (3) complete two continuing professional
(Continued from page 11) development courses in the Standards of Practice,
Code of Conduct, and KRS 322; (4) take and
satisfactorily complete the 60 professional
development hour correspondence course in
Engineering Ethics, by Texas Tech University; (5)
make up his deficient CPD hours; (6) automatically
be audited for his CPD obligations for his next
renewal period; and (7) be on probation for two years
during which time he will submit to a quarterly
review of both his land surveying and engineering
work. The Board accepted the Consent Decree on
January 31, 2020.
EDGAR L. COX, PLS, PE (inactive)
In July of 2018, the Board received a complaint
against Edgar Cox regarding the location of
complainant’s boundary lines on two of Mr. Cox’s
surveys. A Board investigation found that in 2014
Mr. Cox had completed a survey for the complainant
of their property in Green County. Later in 2017, Mr.
Cox revised his plat of survey for the project and
located some boundary lines in different locations.
The investigation did not substantiate any of the
allegations made in the complaint. However, the
investigation did reveal some violations of the
Standards of Practice on the 2017 survey, in that Mr.
Cox failed to set at least four property corner
monuments as required by 201 KAR 18:150.
Additionally, Mr. Cox used the post-nominal letters
“PE” and the title “Consulting Engineer”, on the 2017
plat, despite having elected in 2015 to place his
Kentucky PE license in an “inactive” status, in
violation of KRS 322.020. To settle the Board’s
investigation, Mr. Cox agreed to enter into a Consent
Decree with the Board whereby he acknowledged the
violations and agreed to the following penalties: (1) a
Letter of Reprimand; (2) a fine of $1,000.00; and (3)
a probation for two years during which time he will
submit to a quarterly review of his land surveying
projects. The Board accepted the Consent Decree on
January 31, 2020.
JOSEPH MARK BURNETT, PE
In September of 2019, the Alabama Board of
Licensure for Professional Engineers and Land
Surveyors took disciplinary action against Mr. (Continued on page 14)
Kentucky Association of Professional Surveyors
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Burnett for violating their standards of practice
of engineering by misrepresenting both the nature of,
and actual status of work performed on a project,
which was submitted to a local governmental
regulatory agency. That Alabama disciplinary action
resulted in a stayed suspension of Mr. Burnett’s
engineering license and a fine. The violations found
by Alabama, and the penalties imposed by the
Alabama Board, constitute a violation of Kentucky
law, KRS 322.180 (11). Mr. Burnett elected to
resolve the Kentucky Board of Licensure investigation
by immediately surrendering his Kentucky PE license.
The Board accepted the surrender of license, in the
form of a Consent Decree on January 31, 2020.
Enforcement Statistics
Calendar Year 2019
Beginning of year complaint files active 56 Complaint files opened 50 (33 engineering 23 surveying) Investigations completed/ complaint files closed 56
Year-end complaint files active 50 Complaints closed with no action warranted 20 Admonishments 13 Agreed injunctions / orders (unlicensed practice) 3 Reprimands, fines, probation, etc. 9 Suspensions 1 3 Revocations / surrenders 2 5 Licenses Retired or Inactive 3 4 Other 2 Total Resolutions 59 1. Includes suspensions of licensees who failed to comply
with terms of a prior Consent Decree. 2. Includes revocations of licensees who failed to comply
with terms of a prior Consent Decree. 3. Includes licensees who had failed to comply with CPD
requirements and elected to retire their license. 4. Total number of resolutions does not match total number
of cases closed (56) because licensees who were suspended and/or revoked due to failure to comply with terms of a prior Consent Decree are included in the number of total resolutions.
(Continued from page 13)
Kentucky Association of Professional Surveyors
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In my ongoing research on the history of
surveying, I have often wondered who the first
woman surveyor was and what role she played in our
history. I was not thinking of someone who surveyed
town lots or subdivisions, but someone who left a
lasting impact on surveying history. A number of
times I have run across the name the “Measuring
Woman,” a title the Native Americans bestowed on a
woman named Alice Fletcher. I knew there had to be
a story behind this title, so I got my hands on as much
information as I could about this pioneer of surveying
history. Following is the story of Alice Fletcher, the
Measuring Woman.
From Girl to Ethnologist
Alice Cunningham Fletcher was born March 15, 1838
in Cuba, where her father had gone for health reasons.
She was named Alice after her grandmother and
Cunningham after her mother’s girlhood friend.
Despite any improvement in her father's health, the
family returned to their home in New York in the
summer of 1838. They shortly thereafter rented a
farmhouse in Morristown, N.J., where Alice’s father
died in November of 1839 at the age of 38. He left
behind his widow, a nine-year-old stepson, and Alice,
who was 20 months old. Alice’s mother, Lucia
Adeline, settled in Brooklyn Heights where she
enrolled Alice in a pioneering educational venture
called the Brooklyn Female Academy. The school
was founded to afford young ladies the same facilities
for acquiring a good English and classical education
as was provided for young men at the best collegiate
institutions.
Between 1853, when the Brooklyn Female Academy
burned to the ground and was rebuilt as the Packer
Collegiate Institute, and 1876, Alice spent most of her
time teaching and developing her leadership skills. A
driven and passionate woman, Alice was active in the
The Measuring Woman The story of Alice Fletcher, the first American woman surveyor and her years allotting Indian lands in the mid-1800s.
Alice Fletcher surveying in Omaha; photo taken by E. Jane Gay.
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temperance, anti
-tobacco and
feminist movements. It
was the need to earn her
own living that
propelled her into her
first career as a public
lecturer and later into
anthropology in her
forties. While gathering
material for her
“Lectures on Ancient
America,” Alice
Fletcher met Frederic
W. Putnam, the director
of the Peabody Museum
of Archaeology and
Ethnology in
Cambridge,
Massachusetts. With
Putnam, Fletcher informally studied archeology. In
1881, her interests turned to contemporary Indians
when she met two young Omahas, Suzette and Francis
La Flesche, in Boston. Alice later arranged to travel
with the La Flesches to Nebraska, where she would
camp and observe Indian life. This was the first taste of
life among the Native American people for Alice and it
would change her life forever.
Surveying Indian Lands,
Cementing A Life’s Work
Over the next several years Alice Fletcher blossomed
into a professional anthropologist. Putnam taught her
the importance of scientific study in archeology, which
to him meant painstaking and thorough excavation of
bones and artifacts with detailed recordkeeping.
Fletcher transferred Putnam’s emphasis on getting the
facts to a new field, ethnology. She invented a new
approach to the subject: the rigorous, first-person
study, which came to be called fieldwork. As she
traveled among the Plains Indians, she participated in
their life and took detailed notes on their customs and
ceremonies. Throughout the 1880s she presented
papers based on her observations at the meetings of the
American Association for the Advancement of Science
and had them published in the annual reports of the
Peabody Museum.
“She became a leader in the growing campaign
for the reform of the reservation system. Fletcher had
met Suzette and Francis La Flesche while they were on
a speaking tour in the East with Standing Bear, the
Ponca chief, protesting the removal of the Poncas to
Indian Territory and calling for the extension of
citizenship to Native Americans. When she got to
Nebraska, Alice Fletcher learned that the Omahas were
afraid they too might be banished from their homes.
Joseph La Flesche, Susette and Francis’s father, and
some of the other leaders of the tribe had built frame
houses and begun to farm on the reservation, but they
were afraid that the government would abolish their
reservation and move them elsewhere to keep them
The Measuring Woman (continued)
Camp on Craig Mountain; photo by E. Jane Gay.
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The Measuring Woman (continued)
away from white settlers. The Indians wanted
individual legal title to their farms, just as the white
men had. Alice Fletcher listened sympathetically to
their story and took up their cause. She lobbied in
Washington for the passage of a special act, which
provided for the division of the Omaha Reservation
into individual allotments of land. When the Omaha
allotment act was passed in 1882, she was sent by the
Bureau of Indian Affairs to Nebraska to implement
it.”*
This experience was the start of her work in
surveying. Her first try at land allotments almost cost
her her life—not only did she have to try to convince
the Omaha that having an allotment to farm was a
good thing, she was exposed to the elements of the
field while living in an Indian tent. Fletcher worked
herself to exhaustion for weeks, during times of torrid
heat and terrible storms. After being drenched in a
storm, she continued to work in wet clothing and was
soon suffering from a severe chill. She became so ill
that she was transported 30 miles to the Omaha
mission. For three weeks, no attempt was made to
change her bed linen. It took Alice Fletcher eight
months to recover. By 1884, however, she had
allotted 75,931 acres in 954 allotments to 1,194
Omaha people. Her work was so thorough that the
Bureau next hired her to make a nationwide survey of
all the Indian reservations, their histories, current
situations and the educational facilities available on
each for helping the Indians toward “civilization.”
With the completion of that report, Fletcher began to
be recognized as one of the foremost authorities on
Indians in the country.
She continued to lobby in Washington for a general
allotment act. She also raised money for Indian
education and home building and took an active part
in the annual meetings of the Lake Mohonk Friends
of the Indian, a reform group that urged the
government to abandon the reservation system and
promote the rapid
integration of
Indians into white
society. When the
Dawes Act, a ruling
that converted all
Indian tribal lands to
individual
ownership, was
passed in 1887,
Fletcher was sent to
make the land
allotments to the
Winnebagos, a small
group situated near
the Omahas in Nebraska. Then came the more
difficult assignment—to go to the more numerous
Nez Perces in Idaho.
This project was harder then Alice Fletcher could
have anticipated, as shown in a letter to Putnam. She
writes:
“I have been working harder than ever before in my
life… My honor is involved in getting this done. I
dare not resign until it is completed, I will not bore
you with all I have fought thro. But I have had the
worst struggle of my life. I never met such greed,
such a determination to rob a people, as I have found
here in Idaho. One would think these Indians had
hardly a right to live, and not a right to possess their
land. There has been a running fight upon me,
because I am determined to do justice and give these
Indians a chance. I have not had any one here to help
me, but every one to oppose me. The Indians cling to
me like children, and I must protect them… Well,
Professor, I am getting thro. If the sun will only shine
so that the Surveyor can use his solar instrument for
the next month all will be done. A compass is useless
here. The needle hugs the plate and will not point.
There is so much metal in the mountains.”
Alice Fletcher; portrait by E. Jane Gay
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The surveyor she is referring to in the passage is Joe
Biggs, a trained eastern surveyor she hired to ramrod
(oversee) the fieldwork. The work on the surveys was
very complex and difficult, highlighted by this
reference to doing some of the work: “Her Majesty
[Alice] would follow in the buggy, measuring the
distance by counting the revolutions of the hind wheel,
one of which was marked by a handkerchief tied about
a spoke.”** This method was only used when the land
was level and allowed the wagon to be used on other
areas of the reservation. Indians that had been trained
as chainmen were used to do the fieldwork. The
Indians wanted their better lands for farming layed out
in metes and bounds, but Alice insisted it be done as
the Government Land Office (GLO) required, by
sectionalizing the land into North, South, East and
West.
“Her Majesty”
Alice Fletcher became good friends with Chief Joseph
and was beloved by the Indian tribe. She was named
“Her Majesty” in letters written by long time friend
and housekeeper Jane Gay. She was called “Her
Majesty” by her friends because of her resemblance to
Queen Victoria but also perhaps as a humorous way of
acknowledging the great respect, approaching awe
they were beginning to feel toward her. The Indians
knew her as the “Measuring Woman.” When the work
on the Nez Perces Reservation was completed she had
allotted and surveyed 179,000 acres of land.
Throughout the remainder of her life she continued to
work for Indian causes and document Indian ways as
an anthropologist. Alice Cunningham Fletcher died on
Aug. 23, 1923 after suffering from grippe and a
stroke. She was working at the Bureau of American
Ethnology in Santa Fe, N.M.
In my book, Alice Fletcher qualifies as the first
American woman surveyor.
For more on Alice Fletcher, visit http://lcweb2.loc.gov/ammem/
omhhtml/omhoim2.html
References:
* Written by Frederick Hoxie and Joan Mark, authors of work about Alice Fletcher.
** With the Nez Perces. Alice Fletcher in the Field, 1889-1892.
With the Nez Perces By E. Jane Gay
University of Nebraska Press
ISBN 0-8032-3062-1
A Stranger in Her Native Land
(Alice Fletcher and the American Indians)
By Joan Mark
University of Nebraska Press
ISBN 0-8032-3128-8
ISBN 0- 8032-8156-0 (pbk.)
Photos added to the story by Jackie Hawkins used with permission from: Persistent Link https://nrs.harvard.edu/urn-3:RAD.SCHL:744844 Description Jane Gay Dodge Papers, 1861-1951. A-20. Schlesinger Library, Radcliffe Institute, Harvard University, Cambridge, Mass. Repository Schlesinger Library on the History of Women in America Institution Harvard University Accessed 30 March 2020
Originally published in Point of Beginning, November 25, 2002, https://www.pobonline.com/articles/86743-the-measuring-woman; reprinted with permission.
Milton Denny, PLS, the owner of Denny Enterprise, LLC, is
licensed as a surveyor in seven states. He has written and pro-
vided seminar services on business and marketing topics for
the surveying and mapping community nationwide for 40-plus
years. He can be contacted at mdenny5541@aol.com.
The Measuring Woman (continued)
Kentucky Association of Professional Surveyors
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Saturday, December 7, 2019 at 10 a.m.
Kentucky Engineering Center, 160 Democrat Drive, Frankfort, KY 40601
KAPS Board of Directors CALL TO ORDER
KAPS 2018-2019 President-Elect Greg Barker Called the meeting to order
PROXY VOTES
None
MEMBERS PRESENT Greg Barker – President, Josh Calico – Past-President, Jason Graves – Director/Secretery, Tom Bushelman – Director, Jonathan Payne – Director, Justin Drury – Director, Curtis Felts – South-East Chair, Kevin Phillips – Vice-President of Internal Affairs, James Mayo – Director/Treasurer, Mike Billings – Falls of the Ohio Chair, Tim Tong – Bluegrass/Capital Chair, John St. Clair – Scholarship Committee Chair, Bob Smith – Vice-President of External Affairs, Rich Murphy – Director
STAFF PRESENT Jackie Hawkins – Executive Director
GUESTS PRESENT: Kyle Elliot – KYBOELS Director of Enforcement
MEMBERS ABSENT Johnny Justice – Highlands Chapter Chair, Mike Ladnier – Audubon Chair, Matthew Clark – Jackson Purchase Chair, Chris Higgins – Barren River Chair, Craig Palmer – NSPS Director/KAMP Liaison, Randy Long – Northern Kentucky Chair
PRESIDENT’S WELCOME
President Greg Barker welcomed everyone to the meeting and thanked them for making their effort to make the meeting. Introductions were made.
ADDITIONS OR REVISIONS TO THE AGENDA Kyle Elliott Speaking Sunset Clause
REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF BOARD MEETING MINUTES
The minutes of the September 14, 2019 meeting were reviewed. Tim Tong made a motion to approve the minutes. Joshua Calico seconded. Motion carried.
KAPS OFFICER REPORTS
President’s Report – No Written Report – Thanked everyone involved with getting the Fall Seminars together.
President Elect’s Report – No Report
Treasurer’s Report – Jackie has attached a Balance sheet and Profit/Loss report.
Administrative Assistant’s Report – Submitted
OLD BUSINESS
a) Next KAPS Board Meeting, December 7th, 2019 at Kentucky Engineering Center
b) Need volunteers for Kentucky Construction Career Days
c) Need volunteers for Junior Achievements INSPIRE
d) Pre-Approval of course – Jon Payne wanted KAPS to consider to stop getting pre-approval for coursework, due to time constraints for presenters. Jason Graves suggested an internal review and potentially offering “KAPS Approved” courses. – No vote was made.
e) With the recent adding of online courses to the KAPS continuing education offerings, the use/allocation of funds from said seminars needs to be discussed since no chapters will be offering these courses. Jon Payne made a motion to the following: First use the funds to cover any and all costs (as a percentage) associated with presenting the course (website fees, paying course developer, certificates,mailing, etc.); Second use of funds is to cover any deficit which may exist in KAPS general fund; Third use of funds is to pay for the raffle item used for the scholarship fund ($2500.00); and Lastly place any remaining funds into the annual scholarship fund. Jason Graves seconded. Motion Carried
NEW BUSINESS
a) Next KAPS Board meeting – Wednesday, February 5, 2020 & Thursday February 6, 2020 at The Clarion in Lexington at the Conference
b) Fall Seminar proctor packages – EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE EMAILED (NO NEED FOR MAILING PAPER PACKETS TO PROCTORS)
c) Better definition of membership levels (IE: Do business memberships include a full membership?) NO
d) Associate memberships are supposed to be 50% of full membership prices. – TOM BUSHELMAN MADE A MOTION FOR ASSOCIATE MEMBERSHIP COST TO BE HALF OF THE COST OF FULL MEMBERSHIP PRICE, LESS NSPS DUES, JASON GRAVES SECONDED, MOTION CARRIES (FULL MEMBER COST, LESS NSPS DUES AND DIVIDE BY 2).
e) Internal review of continuing education courses offered by KAPS – A NEW COMMITTEE WILL BE FORMED TO REVIEW COURSEWORK. THE COMMITTEE WILL CONSIST OF JON PAYNE, JOSH CALICO AND JASON GRAVES
f) Honoring Doug Comer for his many years of contribution to KAPS, but more particularly for his time as Editor of The Interior Angle (TIA). – IT WAS AGREED THAT DOUG COMER WOULD BE A GUEST OF HONOR AT THE 2020 CONFERENCE (ALL FEES WAIVED) AND WOULD RECEIVE A PLAQUE AND SPEAK AT THURSDAY LUNCH.
(Continued on page 21)
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EX-OFFICIO DIRECTORS REPORTS
GIAC Liaison – no written report. There will be 7 zones within the new Kentucky Coordinate System, in addition to 1600 (Single Zone).
KAMP Liaison – no report
KY State Board of Licensure Liaison – no report
KSPE Liaison – no report (seat is vacant)
NSPS Director – no report
Professional Development Chair – no report (Mike Ladnier is resigning this seat)
CHAPTER REPORTS
Audubon – no report
Barren River – no report
Bluegrass-Capital – no report (Christmas dinner will be on 12/12/2019 at Malone’s)
Falls of the Ohio – Report submitted
Green River – no report
Highlands – no report
Northeast (inactive) – no report
Northern Kentucky – no report
Purchase – no report
Southeast – Report submitted
COMMITTEE REPORTS
Annual Conference – No written report
Annual Golf Outing and Picnic – no written report; Golf Outing will be on June 12, 2020 in Bardstown, KY
By-Laws – no report
County Surveyors – no report
Education – no report
Ethics and Professional Practice – no report
Finance – no report
Legislative – no report
Membership – no report
Nominating – no report
Past Presidents – no report
Policy Manual – no report – Tom Bushelman said he will update by April meeting of 2020.
Public Relations – no report
Publications / Newsletter – no report
Scholarship – Report submitted
SPECIAL COMMITTEE REPORT
KY / TN State Line Monument – no report
Board of Licensure Nominations – no written report - Bill Bowie’s seat is up for reappointment. Don Pedigo, Jon Payne and Josh Calico are all submitting their names.
State Plane Coordinate Committee – no report – Committee is no longer needed. Committee will dissolve after this meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
Jason Graves made a motion to adjourn. James Mayo seconded. Motion carried. Meeting adjourned.
Submitted by Jason Graves, PLS, Secretary
(Continued from page 20)
Kentucky Association of Professional Surveyors
22 The Interior Angle, Spring 2020
CALL TO ORDER
Greg Barker, KAPS 2019 President-Elect, called the Febru-ary 08, 2019 KAPS General Membership Meeting to order.
PROXY VOTES / QUORUM
President-Elect Barker entertained no proxy votes and af-firmed a quorum.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Tim Thompson, Daryn Bernard, William Gibson, Dave Cox, Chris Gephart, Fred Eastridge, Wayne Doller, Russell West, Larry Heinsohn, Brian Bewley, Doug Comer, John St. Clair, Scott Shufflebarger, Chris Higgins, Thaddaeus Lucas, Shaun Foley, Andy Ament, Rodney, McGaughen, Jason Theis, David Ruckman, William Ruberry, Jason Graves, Clayton Baylor, Josh Calico, Eric Spurrier, Doug Johnson, Bill Schroll, Jim Riney, John Napora, Hugo Endris, Tyler Wells, Kevin Phillips, Tim Tong, Walter Bowman, Bobby Upchurch, James Mayo, Richard Nunan, R. Baldwin, Heather Baldwin, Adam Schmeing, Curtis Felts, James Knoth, Andrew Baxter, Chuck Kluener, Justin Drury, Stephen Chino, Craig Palmer, Greg Larison, Greg Barker, Randy Long, William Bowie, Bob Smith, Tom Bushelman & Jeff Jalbrzlkowski (Guest)
OFFICE STAFF PRESENT
Jackie Hawkins – Administrative Assistant
PRESIDENTS WELCOME RECOGNITION OF GUESTS
President-Elect Greg Barker welcomed everyone to the 2019 General Membership Meeting. He expressed his ap-preciation for KAPS members and their attendance at the conference.
RECOGNITION OF GUESTS
President-Elect Barker had each of our VIP Guests briefly address the KAPS membership.
REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF BOARD MEETING MINUTES
Upon review, Jason Graves made a motion to accept the February 16, 2018 General Membership Meeting Minutes. Jim Riney seconded. Motion carried.
KAPS OFFICER REPORTS
Finance Committee Report – Upon review of the pro-posed 2019 Budget, Justin Drury made a motion to accept. Tim Tong seconded. Motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS
None
NEW BUSINESS
Next KAPS Annual Conference – President-Elect Barker invited everyone to attend the next KAPS Conference on February 2020 at The Clarion in Lexington, KY
Next KAPS General Membership Meeting – Friday, February 7, 2020 at The Clarion in Lexington, KY
COMMITTEE REPORTS & UPCOMING KAPS EVENTS
KET / KAPS Telefund – President-Elect Barker asked for volunteers to assist in the KET Telefund on Tuesday, March 12, 2019, 6 p.m. – 11 p.m. at the KET Studios in Lexington, Kentucky.
National Surveyor’s Week – President-Elect Barker an-nounced that National Surveyor’s Week is March 17 – 23, 2019.
Annual Golf Outing & Picnic – President-Elect Barker announced that the golf outing & picnic will take place on June 14, 2019 at My Old Kentucky Home in Bardstown, KY.
ADJOURNMENT
Jason Graves made a motion to adjourn. John St. Clair se-conded. Motion carried. Meeting adjourned.
Respectfully submitted by
Jason Graves, PLS, Secretary
Friday, February 08, 2019, 1:00 p.m. cst
Holiday Inn East, Louisville, KY
KAPS GENERAL MEMBERSHIP MEETING
Kentucky Association of Professional Surveyors
23 The Interior Angle, Spring 2020
Falls of the Ohio Chapter Serving Breckinridge, Bullitt, Grayson, Hardin, Henry, Jefferson, Meade, Nelson, Oldham, Shelby, Spencer & Trimble Counties
Email: kaps.foto@gmail.com
Chapter Report (February 2020 – April 2020)
February 5-8, 2020 – No formal Chapter meeting was held. The Annual KAPS Conference was considered as our Febru-ary Chapter meeting. March 17, 2020 – No formal Chapter meeting was held. Chapter meeting was cancelled due to the Coronavirus (COVID-19). Meeting was to be held at Fish House Bar & Grill in Shepherdsville. Tentative meeting agenda was to be as follows: 1 – Circulation of sign in sheet for meeting attendance for drawing at December KAPS meeting.
2 - Felicia Harper, Director of Bullitt County Joint Planning Commission and Joint Board of Adjustments, has been invited as a guest speaker. 3 – Jason Graves – report on on-going state activities. 4 – Tim Gehlhausen – Financial Report. 5 – Reminder for everyone to renew their KAPS membership for 2020. 6 – Scott Shufflebarger - Discussion on attending meeting with Southern Indiana ISPLS chapter. Any updates. We plan to hold a joint chapter meeting with ISPLS for our April meeting. 7 – Discussion on FOH fall seminar location and classes. 8 – General discussion. 9 – April Chapter meeting will be a joint meeting with ISPLS. Date, Time, and Location to be determined. 10 – FYI – The 2020 KSPE Annual Conference is scheduled for Monday July 13
th – Wednesday July 15
th at the Lexington
Griffin Gate Marriott Resort and Spa. Survey Ethics & Standards of Practice and Code of Professional Conduct is being presented by John Hays and Jackson Kelly on Monday July 13
th from 10:00 am to 2:40 pm with lunch from noon to 1:00
pm. See website: kyengcenter.org to register. April 11, 2020 – KAPS State meeting. Meeting is scheduled for 10:00 am EST. Meeting will be a virtual meeting held via the Zoom Meeting App. April 21, 2020 – Next regularly scheduled Chapter meeting. Chapter meeting status is still up in the air due to the Corona-virus (COVID-19). Respectfully Submitted, Michael P. Billings, PE, PLS Chapter Chair Falls of the Ohio Chapter
Southeast Chapter Report March 27, 2020
The Southeast Chapter continues to work on the The Cumberland Gap Project formerly the Thomas Walker Pro-
ject. The Southeast Chapter is working on increasing membership within the Southeast Chapter. The checking
account for the chapter ending balance as of February 28, 2020 is $7,021.01 dollars.
Continued successes,
Southeast Chapter Chairman
Mr. Curtis J. Felts, PLS
E-mail: curtisfeltslps@windstream.net
Telephone: 606-864-5472
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2020 KAPS Annual Conference
2020 KAPS Board of Directors
President Greg Barker and
Surveyor of the Year, Jon Payne. Doug Comer, recognized for 15 years of
service as the editor of The Interior Angle
Past Presidents from left to right:
Josh Calico, Jim Riney, Jason Graves, Greg Barker, Wm. Ralph Paris, Jon Payne, & Joe Mylor.
Kentucky Association of Professional Surveyors
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NSPS President, Lisa Van Horn’s, personal
collection of Surveyor Memorabilia Mr. & Mrs. Meunier
Special Guest, Bill Orsinger,
WVSPS President-Elect
2020 KAPS BOD Swearing in from left to right:
Mike Billings, Curtis Felts, Jon Payne, James Knoth,
Justin Drury, Rich Murphy, & Bob Smith Bud Salyer, Esq. teaching a packed class
Richard & Steven Matheny The Carr Family Mrs. & Mr. Paris
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It’s always a pleasure seeing old friends at conference! From left to
right: Mr. & Mrs. Bushelman, Mr. & Mrs. Bertram, & Mr. Barker
Comedian, Tim Mclendon, was a fantastic success with the help of
Nolan Mark, Doug Comer, & Greg Barker
Conference was hilarious thanks to
comedian, Tim Mclendon!
Jon was not happy to see the KAPS machete
going back to Indiana with Nolan.
Comedian & doctor of Psychology, Street
Russell, got the crowd warmed up for Tim.
James Knoth with his daughters, Sarah & Jacy.
John St. Clair with scholarship recipients from left to right:
Sarah Knoth, Steven Matheny, Grace Billings, Ethan Carr
Kentucky Association of Professional Surveyors
28 The Interior Angle, Spring 2020
One of the most important KAPS directives, is the representation and promotion of the profession, at
High School and other career events. Those members that have manned the KAPS booth at these events,
report that the very first question they get asked is “how much will I make?” This prompted the request for
some actual hard data on what someone entering the profession could expect, as far as; salary, benefits, and
license acquirement incentives. So the Interior Angle Staff, took advantage of having a captive audience at
our recent conference, and had you, the surveying community, provide data to us in the form a survey handed
out during classes. And here is what we found.
-The breakdown of respondents was almost even between owners and employees.
-The graph below gives and idea of company size for each respondent
KAPS Conference 2020 Poll Results: A look at the current state of recruitment efforts and career expectations for those entering the Surveying Profession.
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- Incentives ranged from paying application fees, to flex time for classes and paying tuition.
Many respondents reported higher salary and promotions for getting a Professional License. Here are
the results of those that offer some form incentives verses none at all.
- According to Bureau Of Labor Statistics https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/ebs2.pdf
The results of the poll closely reflected the national trend for benefits offered.
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- Bureau of Labor Statistics also states the Annual Mean Wage for all levels of Surveying and Map
ping Technicians (this does not include license professionals), for the state of Kentucky is $38,960.
Here is what our poll concludes entry level applicants could expect for a starting salary.
-Along with the majority of respondents being very likely to hire in the next two years.
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- Just of those likely and very likely to hire in the next two years, entry level wages tend to be higher
as in the graph below. Also, these companies are more likely to offer incentives for getting licensure
and employee benefits. Health insurance offerings reported at 80% for just these companies looking to
hire in the next two years.
In conclusion, the staff of The Interior Angle would like to thank those that took the time to take our survey.
The data collected will aide those promoting our profession by providing them with real world information of
what to expect upon entering the surveying profession. Land surveying is an attractive and promotable
profession, and we have the data to prove it. There are competitive wages, opportunity for promotion, and
benefits similar to national averages. The surveying profession is projected to grow 5% for technicians and
6% for licensed professionals in the coming years. As a community, we can all help to promote surveying by
educating friends and family, sharing our career at schools, and explaining what we do to our clients.
Justin Drury, PLS, is The Interior
Angle Editor, a frequent contributor,
teaches surveying seminars on
cemetery law,& runs his own
business.
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2020 KAPS Golf Scramble
My Old Kentucky Home State Park 668 Loretto Rd, Bardstown, KY 40004-0323
TBD September, 9:30 a.m. EST
$75.00 per player • no refunds
(18 hole-greens fees, cart & lunch included)
1st, 2nd & 3rd place prizes awarded
Register as four person team or individually
Deadline for registration: TBD, 2020
Please return registration form to:
KAPS, P.O. Box 211418, Louisville, KY 40221
Or email to jackie@kaps1.com
*Sponsorship Benefits the KAPS Scholarship
Fund
KAPS Family Picnic to immediately follow!
Select sponsorship choice:
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□ KAPS Major Sponsor - $250 (sponsor sign; half page ad in The Interior Angle)
□ KAPS Bronze Sponsor - $350 (sponsor sign; 4 person team)
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TBD September
9:30 a.m. EST
My Old Kentucky Home
State Park
668 Loretto Road
Bardstown, KY 40004
PLEASE RETURN FORM & SPONSORSHIP TO:
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2020 KAPS PIC-NIC
TBD September 2020 3:00 p.m. EST
My Old Kentucky Home State Park
668 Loretto Road Bardstown, KY 40004
Fees cover lunch, optional competitions,
& door prizes (please bring your own cooler &
lawn chairs)
Planned activities include but are not limited to:
Compass & Chain Challenge, Timed Survey
Events, Pacing, & Survey Instrument Setups
Family events include:
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Please register by TBD September
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*Descriptions taken from the KAPS By-Laws / Article III / Section 2 Classifications and Qualifications FULL MEMBER: Full Membership shall be granted, upon application to the Board, to any person licensed to practice land surveying in the Commonwealth of Kentucky. Except as otherwise hereinafter provided, such membership shall continue, as long as the person’s rights to practice land surveying is maintained. A Full Member shall enjoy all rights and privileges of membership in KAPS.
• LIFETIME FULL MEMBER: Lifetime Full Membership shall be granted upon conditions listed above with one lump sum payment equal to 20 years of the current Full Member dues rate.
• FIRST LICENSED YEAR: KAPS offers Full Membership free of charge to newly licensed individuals. ASSOCIATE MEMBER: Any person who is non-licensed but has an interest in land surveying shall be eligible for Associate Membership in KAPS. Associate Membership shall be granted upon recommendation by a Full Member and application to the Board. An Associate Member shall have all rights of Full Membership except the rights to vote and hold office. CORPORATE MEMBER: Any firm or organization engaged in the practice of land surveying shall be eligible for Corporate Membership provided that either a principal of the firm or a person in responsible management position of surveying for the firm is a Full Member of KAPS. Corporate Membership shall be granted upon application to and majority approval by the Board. Corporate Members shall only have such rights or privileges as may hereinafter be provided or which may be accorded at the discretion of the Board. Corporate Members may enroll full-time employees as KAPS members under the appropriate category at a 20% discount from the full price. BUSINESS MEMBER: Any firm or organization who is non-licensed but has an interest in land surveying shall be eligible for Business Membership in KAPS. Business Membership shall be granted upon recommendation by a Full Member and application to the Board. A Business Member shall only have such rights or privileges as may hereinafter be provided or which may be accorded at the discretion of the Board. Business Members may enroll full-time employees as KAPS members under the appropriate category at a 20% discount from the full price. STUDENT MEMBER: Any full-time student with an interest in the profession of land surveying shall be eligible for Student Membership. Membership shall be granted upon application and approval of the Board of Directors. Student Members shall have all rights of membership except the rights to vote and hold office, except within a Student Chapter.
“FULL” AND “LIFETIME FULL” KAPS MEMBERS WILL AUTOMATICALLY BE MEMBERS OF NSPS (National Society of Professional Surveyors).
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