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January 2006

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DATE: FRIDAY, February 10, 2006(note the weekday change)

TIME: 9:00 a.m.—Coffee9:30 a.m.—Call to Order

PLACE: Radisson Hotel DenverStapleton Plaza3333 Quebec Street(Across the street from DTK—the parking garage is locatedbehind the building. Van serviceis available from/to DIA.)

AGENDA: 1. Officers’ Reports2. Old Business:

• Resolution 33011106.01• Possible ALPA 75th

Anniversary Party3. Committee Reports4. New Business

Captain Duane Woerth will be attending ourMarch 8 meeting as a result of a resolution

passed at our January meeting. Save the dateand please plan to attend!

Walt Rossi, ChairmanUAL Council 33

UAL COUNCIL 33 MEETING NOTICE

In This Issue

UAL Council 33 MeetingNotice________________ 1

Because SomeoneWanted to Know _______ 2

Pilots for Kids ___________ 3

More from Your Editor ____ 5

Grievance Committee ____ 7

Thinking About ImprovingYour Vision? ___________ 8

Committees _____________ 9

Contacts_______________ 11

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THE VIEW FROM 33

The View from 33 is produced by andfor the pilots of the Air Line Pilots As-sociation Council 33, Denver, Colo-rado, in the service of United Airlines.

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BECAUSE SOMEONE WANTED TO KNOWBill Anonsen

On my way through the “back office” I met Tom Lisi, UAL’svendor manager in Denver. He came to United in 1977 as apart-timer in cargo at JFK (laid off 1982—1985). He managesvendor contracts at DIA: ASIG, cabin cleaners, bag checkers.I did not know that the people who move the checked bagfrom the Easy Check-In unit to the conveyer belt are not UALemployees.

Tom explained how this vendor system works. Let’s use ASIG,the people who bring us our fuel, as an example. ASIG signeda contract to provide this service to UAL, and the UAL fuelerscontinued to work in other positions on the ramp. The ASIGcontract has incentives and penalties built in to maximizeperformance. How do they measure the performance? UALaudits fuel sheets. If the fuel sheet is 100 percent accurate,the fueler passes the audit. If the fueling is within 300 poundsof requested fuel, it passes a second audit.

Employees of ASIG have attendance incentives, ranging fromgift certificates at local stores/restaurants to pay bonuses.If you don’t show up on time, or perform the work sloppily,you are held accountable. The last fueler I spoke with saidhis shift was being treated to dinner at Outback Restaurantfor high performance.

How do we measure the performance of bag checkers at theticket counter? We audit them as well. Once a bag ischecked, the handler company has 90 seconds to pick up thebag! Managers audit the cabin cleaners. Have you ever hadto fill out a survey on your yoke asking, “Please rate thecleanliness of the cockpit”?

Performance is measured in four areas—safety, operational,quality, and financial—by the audits, MarketTrac surveys,and, in the case of ASIG, comments from flight officers. Ifthe vendor does not meet standards, we look for anothervendor. Apparently there are plenty of companies that wantto clean our airplanes. The accountability is dramatic. Theresults are impressive.

I hope you found this interesting. Is there something youwant to know? Please send me your questions and comments.Thanks for reading!

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Ahern, BretAllen, CindyAnonsen, BillAustin, DennyBarton, JohnBeach, JimBebee, Rick and GayleBomber, MarkBosler, MarkBrown, DaveCallender, DaveChancellor, DaveConroy, JohnEverhard, GregEvert, Dana

Fields, JoeHough, Ann MarieHoward, RichardKasberg, KevinKennedy, BillLamb, ScottLambeth, KevinMcConnell, PeteMcDonald, DeniseMcDonald, JeffMcFarlane, JohnMcGowan, DonO’Neill, KenPatterson, BrendaPhillips, ErikPhillips, MelissaRichland, Bonny

Rimer, KeithRossi, WaltSherlock, RichardSmith, ShellyStark, ErikStuber, LizetteTroutmann, GlennVanslye, RichardWitvliet, JolandaAll FOSCs

Thanks again.

PILOTS FOR KIDSSteve Henderson, Chairman

Council 33 and 93 once again came throughwith flying colors in showing their support forthe many abused and disadvantaged childrenin the Denver area during the PFK Christmasvisits. Strong participation for all sevenshelter visits/parties was evident in thecoordinators’ planning, individual atten-dance, and both councils’ significant financialcontributions.

Please give a special recognition/acknowledg-ment to the following members the next timeyou see them—they really made it happen.

These smiles areworth millions!

I got more out ofthis than I gave.

I wish I got oneof these when I

was a kid! What do yousuppose this is?

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It feels good to bring cheer to another—and these folks really appreciate it!

So, how ’bout them BRONCOS!

When does Santa get here?

No, I’m not really sure how this works.

Look at these faces—all smiles!!

I’ll definitely be back next year—thesekids are great!

PILOTS FOR KIDS:A WONDERFUL, WARM EXPERIENCE

FOR ALL INVOLVED.

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MORE FROM YOUR EDITORBill Anonsen

At the January council meeting, which I attended, Captain Rimerstarted with some remarks: “Keep up the great work” and “The FlightOffice is here to help you” was the crux of his message. He thendiscussed the recent tragedies our group endured. He urged us totake care of each other and to encourage a hurting employee to seekassistance within the office, or EAP, or any suitable agency, but to getthe needed help. Chairman Rossi and Vice Chairman Barton latermade similar remarks. John Barton urges us to ask the hard ques-tions, and don’t let a questionable comment slide.

There was much discussion on the resolution permitting retired UALpilots to conduct some contract training. Please see the Council 33website for a full description of the issues. Resolution passed.

Pilots at UAL are actually getting fired. I don’t know why we can’thave details; I’ll try to find out more. You can look at SkyNet, AboutUnited, Code of Conduct, Table of Contents for information onconduct. Another good place: SkyNet, About United, Documents andPolicies, Employee Policy Manual, Series 15. The bottom line: If youare called in for an interview with anyone, or asked to sign a writ-ten statement, or if you are sensing “issues” at TK and are asked orwant to see someone, please do so only after you speak with an LECrepresentative. You heard the one about the guy who signed a con-fession, then asked for a lawyer? By the way, no Miranda rights in an“informal” interview. ’Nuff said?

On PBS—why bid a plan B? The No. 1 Seattle pilot did not get his firstchoices because the solver could not make them work with the rest ofthe category schedule. Oops. During a line check debrief in 1987, theLCA told me a good pilot always has an “alternate” in the back of hisor her mind.

TRDAVL is updated about three times a week. So keep checking.

Please check out the Council 33 website under alpa.org. Joe Fields isproviding tons of good material there.

Send me your questions/comments/There I Was stories.

Here’s one from my latest Hawaii flight. The fueler came out with asheet “just barely” out of tolerance. Captain says, “Well, you have tostick it.” Fueler comes back with “The stick readings aren’t evenclose.” Call Maintenance. Forty minutes later we get the answer:Since there was some unplanned fuel in the center tank, fueler

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Dave Smith, Joe Fields, and DrewWacker sample the C-33 meeting

pizza, purchased with funds obtainedfrom advertising in the View/eview.

Rich, George,and Andy at the

January C-33meeting.

TedWinningand ScottGoughdiscussBroncos vs.Patriots.

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GRIEVANCE COMMITTEEDrew Wacker, Council 33 Grievance Committee

If you are worked into a day off, there are a couple of things youshould be aware of. On reserve, if your block-in time plus 15 min-utes puts you past midnight local time, you have the option ofcalling the Crew Desk before you leave the airport and tellingthem that you want to remain on reserve for the rest of that day.The Crew Desk then has to move your RDO to another day later inthe month, and you still get all of your required contractual rest—probably 10 + 45 from actual block-in + 15 minutes to report (12hours block to block essentially). Reference 5-G-c-(2).

If the day you are worked into is your seventh consecutive day on,you still can have your RDO moved, but you are unable to work as it’syour seventh day in a row, a rare good deal (I believe this is a domes-tic FAR issue). You still, however, have to inform the Crew Desk ofyour decision before you leave the airport, although there isn’t anymore work they could give you for that day.

The basis for all this is that you are guaranteed 10/11(LCO) or 12days off scheduled a month, and that’s all you get anyway on re-serve—hence, this doesn’t apply to lineholders unless for some oddreason you are down to 10/11 or 12 days off also. But here you haveto look at 5-G-1-d-(2), which defines a “day free of all duty” as beingreleased before 0100 home domicile time (aka “shaded day”). Note:This sub-paragraph “shaded day” definition also applies to a “workday” for the purposes of LCO lookback pay. So as a lineholder, if as aresult of a reassignment or junior manning block-in + 15 minutes thatgets you home past 0100, 5-G-4 states you also shall be given “addi-tional calendar days free of duty to restore him to his minimumcalendar days free of all duty at his domicile.”

If you aren’t totally confused at this point, how about if they fly youinto an RDO at the end of the month? This is uncharted territory, butcall the Crew Desk anyway and request an additional day off comingup the next month, again before you leave the airport. Have itdocumented, and your friendly Grievance Committee can work onperhaps establishing a favorable past practice—no guarantees,though. (Editor’s note: Drew wants a disclaimer on this last state-ment—there is no provision in the contract for adding a day off tonext month. The big suggestion here is to document, and save calrecaudit trails, and ask an LEC rep for help if you are getting abused.)

One more grievance note: If you have a PBS problem, please contacta Scheduling Committee member first to see if they can figure outwhat caused your problem, which is probably not a grievance (i.e.,contractual or, in this case, a side letter) issue.

Fly smart.

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THINKING ABOUT IMPROVING YOUR VISION?

The good news from ALPA Aeromedical about the CKfor near-vision procedure is that the FAA just recentlyapproved it. The bad news is that they are requiring asix-month waiting period and a mandatory medicalflight test after that.

Debora TranterAeromedical

More from Your Editor, continued from page 5

correctly added less than desired fuel in wing tanks.But the computerized stick readings were for fulltanks. Once the fueler got a new sheet with theactual tank loadings, the sticks were perfect, and offwe went—both crew meals excellent. Did I mentionthe fueler was new? I had a fueler admit he did notknow how to stick a tank “yet”—we had to wait forhis supervisor. It pays to be vigilant. There is a lot ofOJT going on out there. Like it or not, captains arethe last assurance that the new guys are getting itdone correctly. If it ain’t right, no flight. Got a story?

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COMMITTEES (01/25/06)

AEROMEDICALDebora Tranter, Chairman (303) 818-8955

deboratranter@aol.com

AIR SAFETYRandy Trujillo, Chair (303) 660-8028

truejello@aol.comScott Trepicone (303) 417-0338

strepico@aol.comKent Snider (DENTK Liaison) (720) 635-5102

LKENTSNIDER@aol.com

AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLeslie King, Chair (303) 670-1566

k0ki@aerorfi.orgTom Geraghty (303) 840-7043

britbrant@aol.com

COMMUNICATIONSVacant, Chair

WebmasterJoe Fields (720) 837-4687

alpa33fields@aol.comView From 33Bill Anonsen, Editor (719) 481-1799

Submit to billanonsen@aol.comMike Straight, Advertising Mgr. (719) 533-1307

mstraight@aol.comPublic RelationsDoug Work/Sally Roever-Work (303) 841-6007

trijetcapt@aol.com

CRITICAL INCIDENT RESPONSEPete Lagerman, Chair (303) 651-7393

plagerman@aol.com

CUSTOMER APPRECIATIONWes Cockman, Chair (303) 777-7852

DENVER FLIGHT CENTER LIAISONMick Krantz, Chair (303) 660-6543

mickkrantz@aol.com

EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCEJim Dugan, Chair (303) 660-5533

jmdplt@aol.comJD Gleitz (720) 201-8700

JDGleitz@comcast.netDoug Hoeschle (303) 246-6952

dwhesh@aol.comKeith McIntosh (720) 252-3856

kmc757767@aol.com

FAMILY AWARENESSKevin Girard, Chair (303) 678-0034

kgirard3@yahoo.comCharlie Davies (720) 870-9283

charlesual@aol.comLarry Teaff (970) 669-3782

LTT7580@aol.com

GRIEVANCEDavid Smith, Chair (303) 670-9570

smith@wispertel.netRob Ross (720) 233-9568

captrross@aol.comDrew Wacker (719) 210-2364

drewwacker@aol.com

HOTELMark McCaw, Chair (303) 674-2973

mdmccaw@aol.comBrad Silverman (303) 670-1077

jetblues@aol.comJoe Chipman (303) 906-6588

jechipman@earthlink.net

INTERNATIONALJim Berg, Chair (303) 674-4215

jamesberg1@aol.comBill Delany (303) 674-8788

william_delany@msn.com

JUMPSEATKen Morris, Chair (602) 920-5911

kjmorris2023@yahoo.com

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LABOR UNION LIAISONSDenver Labor CouncilJim McClellan (303) 708-9773

av84ual@aol.comAMFA/IAMSue Stang (303) 766-2306

SussTA2@aol.comAFAVacant—can you help?

LEGISLATIVEMike Weidler, Chair (303) 881-1048

weidheimer1@comcast.netDave Tuck (719) 310-7022

cdavetuck@yahoo.com

LOCAL SCHEDULEJeff Snoy, Chair (303) 840-3985

jeffsnoy@comcast.netTim Patton (303) 690-5724

timothyapatton@earthlink.netScott Hebert (303) 423-3099

scott.hebert@comcast.netTim Morrison (303) 697-4122

timrite@compuserve.comJean-Michel Fernand (719) 481-4830

Fernaj9@aol.comJim Tatro (303) 649-1234

jtatro5@comcast.netSue Stang (303) 766-2306

SussTA2@aol.com

MEMBERSHIPGlen Gulliver, Chair (720) 838-6206

gcgulliver@comcast.netBrenda Patterson (303) 940-0615

cbpatterson84@aol.com

MENTOR PROGRAMSteve Como (303) 670-4926

smc911@aol.comJeff Arnold (303) 358-2244

arnold747@aol.com

PARENTAL ISSUESBeth Janssen, Chair (719) 481-0520

bajanssen737@earthlink.net

PILOTS FOR KIDSSteve Henderson, Chair (303) 973-0862

spikeanddanny@yahoo.com

PROFESSIONAL STANDARDSKevin Lambeth, Capt -300, Chair (303) 346-0560Jim Livingston, Capt 767 (303) 816-0176Jason Fee, F/O A-320 (303) 544-1755Mical Bruce, Capt -300 (303) 378-8990Wyatt Hester, F/O -300 (303) 520-1125

RETIREMENT & INSURANCERich Pellicore, Chair (720) 980-4824

rpellicore@aol.comScott Gorham (303) 526-9670

sag@starband.netTram Kincaid (719) 310-3692

tram@madcat.com

SECURITYJohn Movizzo, Chair (303) 638-3666

johnmovizzo@aol.comGary Brandenburg (303) 805-1740

gvbranden@msn.comRich Frampton (303) 355-3977

richframpton@msn.com

SOCIALSteve Jacques, Chair (303) 680-6664

jake570@aol.com

TRAININGKen Redmond, Chair (303) 596-8496

kcredmond@comcast.netHeather Loomis (303) 885-1924

guppyskyqueen@earthlink.netDana Evert (303) 840-0905

devert103@aol.comAndy Gambardella (303) 840-8964

awgjr123@aol.comRob Schmidt, FOM (970) 223-0118

schm821@aol.com

UNIFORMChris Bruce, Chair (303) 355-1997

cdbruce48@aol.com

COMMITTEES (01/25/06) — continued

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COUNCIL 33NONMEMBER LIST

The following DEN pilots arenonmembers of ALPA and, assuch, are not entitled to wear theALPA insignia. To the best of ourknowledge, this information iscurrent as of December 30,2005. If anyone feels that his orher name is listed incorrectly, orif you need any assistance withmembership services, please feelfree to contact me. (This list ispublished in accordance with aUAL MEC directive.)

Glen GulliverCouncil 33 Membership

Chairman(720) 838-6206

e-mail:gcgulliver@comcast.net

Augustine, S. K. 104575Barcheski, R. T. 020376Cauthen, F. C. 060234Cranford, M. V. 022776Davidson, J. V. 028286DeVere, D. J. 021012Denap, J. C. 021349Dziekan, M. R. 018947Ferg, M. R. 042542Foltz, C. S. 021244Graus, C. S. 108282Henry, S. M. 113655Hill, B. S. 042915Hudgens, W. T. 060415Lambertz, R. H. 044419McDonald, J. C. 043251McGill, R. G. 019237Moritz, G. A. 106437Newton, M. E. 019649Peterson, D. E. 035353Preston, L. J. 051309Sanderson, J. P. 021210Sasso, J. A. 051838Shoemaker, D. E. 043598Sigmond, T. A. 053412Smielkiewicz, A. J. 040523Steiner, J. F. 019060Thomas, R. G. 021110Vinton, G. W. 020961Wilkins, D.J. 054937

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