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Analysis of Permanent Gases: More Challenging Than You Might Think Mark Sinnott October 9, 2018 October 9, 2018 Agilent J&W DB-HeavyWAX 1

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Page 1: Analysis of Permanent Gases: More Challenging Than You

Analysis of Permanent Gases:

More Challenging Than You Might Think

Mark Sinnott

October 9, 2018

October 9, 2018 Agilent J&W DB-HeavyWAX1

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Analysis of Permanent Gases

➢Sample Introduction – Syringes and valves

➢General discussion on PLOT columns

➢ The molesieve column is at the heart of permanent gas separations

➢Techniques when CO2 + C2’s, C3’s, etc. is also needed

➢ Column Isolation

➢ Parallel columns

➢ Cryogenic separations

➢ Unique selectivity packed columns

➢Techniques for low level detection of hydrogen

October 9, 2018 Agilent J&W DB-HeavyWAX2

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Gas Sampling Valve

October 9, 2018 Agilent J&W DB-HeavyWAX3

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Syringes for Gas injection

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http://pconlab.net/Hamilton-Syringes.html

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Gas Tight Syringes

October 9, 2018 Agilent J&W DB-HeavyWAX5

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PLOT columns

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Column Type Phase TypeChromatographic

ProcessStationary Phases

WCOT LiquidGas - Liquid

partitioning

Polysiloxanes

PEG

PLOT SolidGas - Solid

adsorbtion

Porous Polymers

Al2O3, Zeolites, etc

WCOT = Wall Coated Open Tubular

PLOT = Porous Layer Open Tubular

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Why use a PLOT column?

➢Highly retentive

➢ (can resolve gases at non-cryo temperatures)

➢Unique selectivity

➢Permits higher initial oven temperatures than WCOT

October 9, 2018 Agilent J&W DB-HeavyWAX7

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October 9, 2018

"Solid"

Porous

Layer

Fused Silica

Tubing

Ideal for the analysis of gases due to

their increased retention (k) and unique

selectivity (a) compared to WCOT

PLOT Columns

8

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WCOT Ethylene Analysis

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PLOT Ethylene Analysis

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JW Column PLOT column Portfolio- DB, HP, CP11

HP-PLOT Al2O3

GS-Alumina

GS-Alumina KCl

HP-PLOT Al2O3 S

HP-PLOT Al2O3 M

CP- Al2O3/KCL

CP- Al2O3/Na2SO4

CP-SilcaPLOT

CP-CarboBOND

CP-CarboPLOT P7

GS-CarbonPLOT

CP-PoraPLOT Amines

CP-PoraPLOT S

CP-PoraBOND Q

CP-PoraPLOT Q

CP-PoraPLOT Q-HT

HP-PLOT Q

CP-PoraBOND U

HP-PLOT U

GS-Q

CP-PoraPLOT U

HP-PLOT Molesieve

CP-Molsieve 5A

GS-GasPro

ShinCarbon ST

Select Permanent Gas Column

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Dial 1-816-650-0621 for e-Seminar Audio

Selectivity Interactions in PLOT Phases

Shape / Size Surface

ZeolitesBonded Carbon /

Molecular SievesPorous Polymers Bonded Silica Al2O3

MolesieveMolesieve

CarbonPLOTPLOT-Q/U

GasPro

SilicaPLOTAlumina

Graphic of type KFI molecular sieve obtained

from the International Zeolite Association web

site (www.izo-online.org).

Flow

Zeolite "Backbone"

Size Selectivity

Gas Flow d- d- d+

d+

neutral

+ + + + + + + + + + + + +

+ + + + + + + + + + + + +

Vapor pressure always plays a leading role in solute interactions

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Molesieve Column

October 9, 2018 Agilent J&W DB-HeavyWAX13

➢Separation based mostly on molecular size and shape

➢Excellent at what it does but very limited

➢H2, O2, N2, CH4, CO

➢Noble Gases

➢NO2

➢SF6

➢Limitations…cannot use for…

➢CO2

➢Water

➢C2 HC’s and larger

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Molesieve Separations

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Molesieve Separations

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Tips for using a Molesieve column

➢ Molesive material is commonly used as a moisture trap

➢ Samples must be reasonably dry

➢ Separation will change as column absorbs water over time

➢ Resolution loss between CH4 and CO indicates when column should be reconditioned (300 ᵒ c 8 hours +)

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CH4 CO

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But I also need to analyze for CO2….its getting complicated…

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➢ Recall that CO2 cannot be done on a molesieve column (absorbed)

➢ Alternative options:

➢ 2 unique injections on 2 columns

➢ Molesieve + PLOT-Q

➢ 1 injection on 1 column at Cryo temps (-80 ᵒc!)

➢ GasPro

➢ 1 Injection on 1 column – ShinCarbon ST (packed column)

➢ 1 injection with 2 columns + valve to “direct traffic”

➢ Column Isolation - Molesieve + PLOT-Q

➢ 1 injection with 2 columns in parallel

➢ Select Permanent Gas Column - Molesieve + PLOT-Q

…did I mention this would get complicated?? ☺

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PLOT-Q

October 9, 2018 Agilent J&W DB-HeavyWAX18

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GasPro - Cryo

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ShinCarbon ST

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Argon Carrier

Helium Carrier

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Courtesy Diablo Analytical

Valves

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1 Injection 2 Columns + Valve ….Column Isolation

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H2 O2 N2

CH4 CO

CO2 C2’s

C3’s

PLOT-Q

Molesieve

Variable Restrictor

CO / CH4 / N2 / O2 / H2

C3’s / C2’s / CO2

C3’s / C2’s / CO2CO / CH4 / N2 / O2 / H2 /

Sample

Introduction

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Column isolation: Setting up valve timing

October 9, 2018 Agilent J&W DB-HeavyWAX23

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Column isolation

October 9, 2018 Agilent J&W DB-HeavyWAX24

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Column Isolation – Flexibility of Elution Order….

October 9, 2018 Agilent J&W DB-HeavyWAX25

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1 Injection 2 Columns in Parallel…Select Permanent Gas Column

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Select Permanent Gas Column

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Select Permanent Gas Column

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So you think that was complicated… what if I need to analyze for hydrogen too…

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➢The trouble with hydrogen

➢Must use TCD

➢Sensitivity is carrier gas dependent

➢Creates unique issues related sensitivity

➢Recall the negative hydrogen peak from earlier

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TCD

➢ When using He carrier sensitivity for hydrogen is on the order of only ~10%

➢ No problem right? I’ll use Argon or Nitrogen carrier and get down to ppm levels for hydrogen…

➢ This is true, however now sensitivity for all the other compounds is now very poor…a real “catch 22”…

➢ Lets see why this is the case…

October 9, 2018 Agilent J&W DB-HeavyWAX30

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Thermal Conductivity Detector - TCD

October 9, 2018 Agilent J&W DB-HeavyWAX31

https://ws680.nist.gov/publication/get_pdf.cfm?pub_id=907540

NameThermal Conductivity @ 400 K

(mW m-1 K-1)

Argon 22.4

Hydrogen 230.9

Helium 189.6

Nitrogen 32.8

Carbon Monoxide 32.3

Carbon Dioxide 25.2

Acetylene 33.3

Ethylene 34.7

Ethane 36.0

Propane 31.0

Butane 28.3

Pentane 24.9

Hexane 23.4

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ShinCarbon ST

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Argon Carrier

Helium Carrier

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Workarounds for low level hydrogen detection

➢ 2 unique injections:

➢ 1 for hydrogen using Argon or N2 carrier 2nd injection for all other gases using helium carrier

➢ 1 injection using column isolation and argon carrier + methanizer➢ TCD coupled to FID

➢ Methanizer placed after TCD but before FID to convert CO/CO2 to methane for enhanced detection of these gases by FID

➢ Sabatier Reaction (1897): CO2 + 4 H2 CH4 + 2H2O

➢Transformer Oil Gas Analyzer (TOGA)

October 9, 2018 Agilent J&W DB-HeavyWAX33

400 ᵒ c

Ni

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Conversion of CO/CO2 to methane

➢ Discovered by French chemist Paul Sabatier in 1897 (Sabatier Reaction)

October 9, 2018 Agilent J&W DB-HeavyWAX34

TCD

Methanizer

(H2 + Ni )

350 ᵒ c

FID

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October 9, 2018 Agilent J&W DB-HeavyWAX35

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Transformer Oil Gas Analyzer (TOGA) Chromatograms

October 9, 2018 Agilent J&W DB-HeavyWAX36

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Transformer Oil Gas Analyzer (TOGA) Chromatograms

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H2

O2

N2

TCD

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Transformer Oil Gas Analyzer (TOGA) Chromatograms

October 9, 2018 Agilent J&W DB-HeavyWAX38

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Summary

Analytes Column Technique

H2/O2/N2/CH4/CO Molesieve • 1 Injection 1 Column

H2/O2/N2/CH4/CO + Ar Molesieve (thick film) • 1 Injection 1 Column

H2/O2/N2/CH4/CO + CO2 + C2’s etc Molesieve + PLOT-Q

• 2 Injections 2 Columns

• 1 Injection + Valve (Column Isolation)

• 1 Injection Parallel Columns

(Select Perm Gas Column)

H2/O2/N2/CH4/CO + CO2 + C2’s etc GasPro • Cryo (-80 ᵒ c)

H2/O2/N2/CH4/CO + CO2 + C2’s etc ShinCarbon • Packed only

H2/O2/N2/CH4/CO + CO2 + C2’s etc

+ Low level HydrogenMolesieve + PLOT-Q

• Single injection onto molesieve

for H2 detection only

• Argon carrier + Methanizer (TOGA)

October 9, 2018 Agilent J&W DB-HeavyWAX39

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Outline

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• Plot columns – General discussion PLOT vs WCOT

• Molesieve

• Very narrow functionality

• Great for resolving O2/N2 at non-cryo temps

• Traps CO2 and water

• The Problem with CO2 and HC larger than C1

• Option 1: Make 2 unique injections

• Option 2: Cryo + GasPro

• Option 3: Column isolation

• Option 4: ShinCarbon

• Detection issues when there is a need for H2

• Explanation of TCD (catch 22)

• Work arounds:

• 2 unique injections

• Argon carrier + Methanizer (TCD + FID in series)

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Flow Chart

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Y/N

Permanent gases Only

(No CO2 or C2’s +)

MolesieveYes

Molesieve