annabel melongo computer tampering trial transcript
TRANSCRIPT
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
1/222
Adrienne White
SR
2650 S. California Avenue Room
4C 2
Ch
icago, Illinois 60603
Phone 847.674-3407
Bill
To Annabel Melongo
DESCRIPTION
IN
RE
: People versus Annabel Melongo
Case Number:
8
CR 10502-01
Hearing Date: 7/28/14
Judge: Hon. Timothy J. Joyce
Pages:
221
Reg Delivery
Cash or Money Order only
Page Rate: 3.15
Deposit: 300.
DATE 2/20/2015
FOR
tri l tr nscript
AMO_UNT
696 5
F A I D FE 2 3 2 15
t q c j
r
BALANCE DUE
396.
15
If you have any questions concerning this invoice , contact Ac Adrienne White 773-674-3407
THANK YOU
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
2/222
1 STATE OF
ILLINOIS
SS :
2
COUNTY
OF C 0 0 K
3
IN
THE CIRCUIT COURT OF
COOK COUNTY
, ILLINO
IS
COUNTY
DEPARTMENT - CRIMINAL
DIVISION
THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE
5 OF ILLINOIS ,
C r i m i n a l
6
P l a i n t i f f ,
No . 08
CR 10502
- 01
7 vs .
8 ANNABEL
MELONGO
,
9
Defendan t
.
10 REPORT OF PROCEEDINGS had
a t
t h e h e a r i n g
11 in th e
above - e n t i t l e d cause b e f o r e the HONORABLE
12 TIMOTHY
JOSEPH
JOYCE ,
Judge
o f s a i d
c o u r t
, on t he
13 28th day o f J u l y
2014
.
14 PRESENT :
15
HONORABLE
ANITA
M. ALVAREZ ,
S t a t e
s A t to r n ey
o f
Cook County
,
by:
16
MS
.
N NCY
ZARKOS
and
MS . DEBJANI DASGUPTA ,
A s s i s t a n t S t a t e
s A t to r n ey s ,
17 appea red on
b e h a l f
o f
t h e
People ;
18 MS. JENNIFER BONJEAN ,
appea red on b e h a l f o f t he Defendan t .
19
20
21
22
23 ADRIENNE WH
ITE
CSR 084 - 004614
O f f i c i a l Cour t
R ep o r t e r
24
1
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
3/222
1
2 call.
3
4
THE COURT :
THE CLERK :
S . ZARKOS :
THE COURT :
6 p l e a s e .
7
S . ZAR KOS :
S w i t c h i n g
o v e r
to J udge G o e b e l s
A n n a b e l l e
Melongo .
Good
m or n ing ,
your Honor
.
Could e v e r y o n e i d e n t i f y t h e m s e l v e s
Nancy
Zarko s ,
Z- a - r - k - o - s ,
a l o n g
8 w i t h my p a r t n e r , A s s i s t a n t S t a t e s
A t t o r n e y
D eb jan i
9
Da sgup t a
, D- e - b - j -
a -n
- i , D- a - s - g - u -
p - t
-
a .
10
11
THE
COURT:
MS BONJEAN
:
And f o r t h e
d e f e n s e
.
Good
m or n i ng .
J e n n i f e r
12 Bon j e a n , B- o - n - j - e - a - n , on b e h a l f
o f t h e d e fe n d a n t
13 A n n ab e l l e
Melongo
.
14
THE COURT :
Good m or n ing ,
e v e r y o n e
.
What a r e
15
we d o in g t o d a y ?
16
S
. ZARKOS :
We have a
de mand j u r y
.
And
t h e
17
state s
r e a d y .
18
S .
BONJEAN
:
De f e nse
i s
r e a d y
as
w e l l
.
Your
19
Honor , t h e r e is a m o t i o n p en d in g , a m ot i on i n l im i n e
20 t h a t was
fi
l ed on t h e last
c o u r t d a t e ab o u t 30
days
21 ago .
22 So t h e r e a pretrial m o t i o n s t h a t Judge
23 Goebe l had
a s k e d
me
to
p u t in w r i t i n g which I d i d
on
24
t h a t
d a t e
.
I d i d n t
r e c e i v e
a w r i t t e n r e s p o n s e f rom
2
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
4/222
1
t h e state.
I
d o n t know if
t h e y i n t e n d
to j u s t
2 r e s p o n s e
o r a l l y
which
i s f i n e
by
u s .
3
But that s t h e o n l y
o t h e r
pretrial
4
i s s u e
t h a t
ha s to be a d d r e s s e d .
5 THE COURT:
I was
a d v i s e d
t h a t Judge Goebe l
6 wasn t g o in g to be h e r e
F r i d a y
and d ro p p ed it on my
7
d es k .
I
l o o k e d
a t
it t h i s
mo rn in g .
I m f a m i l i a r
8 w i t h what
t h e
a l l e g a t i o n s
a r e .
9
1
11
I mean .
I
have
r e a d
t h e
m ot i on
I
g u es s
i s
what
I
have
a murder s e n t e n c i n g h e r e t h a t was
o r i g i n a l l y
s c h e d u l e d
f o r 1 : 0 0
o
c l o c k .
It s
g e t t i n g
12 moved to
later t h i s mo rn in g .
13
But what
t h a t
p r o b a b l y means
i s
t h a t I
14 s u p p o s e d l y realistically,
I g u e s s , my
t h o u g h t was
15
t h a t
I
w o u l d n t
be
c o o r d i n a t i n g
to
c o m p l e t e
4
16
J u r o r s .
P l u s , d ep en d in g on my day -- let a l o n e
17 ev e ry b o d y else s - - a n t i c i p a t i n g d o in g t h i s murder
18
s e n t e n c i n g t h i s mo rn in g .
19
Maybe
w e l l
be
g e t t i n g
our j u r o r s
2
b e f o r e
noon
and
s e n d i n g them to
l u n ch
and
telling
2 1
t hem
to be
ba c k
h e r e a t
1 :0 0
o c l o c k r a t h e r t h an n o t
22
g e t t i n g
t hem
in
u n t i l
2 : 0 0 .
23
24
a ro u n d 1 : 0 0 .
Perh ap s s t a r t i n g t h e j u r y s e l e c t i o n a t
Then maybe r e s o l v i n g t h e
m ot i on
in
3
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
5/222
1
l i m i n e
after
t h a t
o n l y
b e c a u s e
o t h e r w i s e w e l l be
2 p i c k i n g a
j u r y a t
5 :
00 o r
6 : 0 0
o c l o c k .
3 I
imag in e you
want t h e
j u r o r s t h a t
4
we r e g o in g to be
s e l e c t i n g
-- nobody in t h i s
b u i l d i n g
s h o u l d be h e re t h a t l o n g .
R a t h e r
t h a n
if we
6 s h o u l d let t hem
know
e v e r y t h i n g ,
and have
them
g e t
7
t i c k e d o f f
and not happy
to come b a c k h e r e .
Does
8 t h a t
sound l i k e a
p l a n ?
9
S
. ZARKOS :
I
t h i n k
we
s h o u l d
be
q u e s t i o n i n g
10
them
by
tomor row
, y o u r Honor
11
THE OU
RT: I a n t
i
c i p a t e s e l e c t i n g t h e j u r y
12 t o d a y r e s o l v i n g t h e mo t io n a f t e r
we
s e l e c t t h e j u r y .
13
And
we
can
do t h e s w e a r i n g
and commencing
t h e trial
14
t omorrow. How l o n g do we a n t i c i p a t e t h e
trial
w i l l
15
be?
16
MS
ZARKOS : T h r e e w i t n e s s e s , that s it, y o u r
17
Honor
18
THE COURT : I
su p p o se you have
your
own
19 w i t n e s s e s d e p e n d i n g on
how
I
r u l e
on
t h e b en ch .
20
S
. BONJEAN :
Yes
,
if
I
have to p r o v e
it
up
,
21 impeachment
,
which way t h e w i tn es s
--
a b s o l u t e l y .
22 But a t
t h e
same
t ime it c o u l d be - - we
ha ve
no one
23
d e p e n d i n g on what t h e s t a t e p r e s e n t s in t h e i r
c a s e i n
24 c h i e f .
4
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
6/222
1
THE
COURT:
L e t s start
f l u s h i n g
it o u t .
What
2
I 11
do is
I 11
g e t a
j u r y
b e f o r e
l u n c h , I 11 j u s t
3
4
g e t
t hem i n .
I d o n t
want
to do a n y t h i n g
f o r m a l l y .
I u s u a l l y d o n t
have
t h e a t t o r n e y s
5
u n d e r
c o u r t o r d e r b e c a u s e
t h e
d e f e n d a n t s o f f i n
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
c u s t o d y .
I ll
b r i n g t hem i n .
I ll
be
g e t t i n g
t hem
in
an h o u r .
And
if
we
f i n i s h
an hour earlier --
MS. ZARKOS:
Sounds e x c e l l e n t .
THE
COURT:
Ms.
Bon j e a n .
MS. BONJEAN:
Yes,
your
Honor .
THE
COURT:
I ll p l a n and s e e .
It s
a r o u n d
1 2 : 4 0 .
The c o u r t r e p o r t e r wi ll be entitled t o h e r
13 l u n c h as w e l l as c o u r t p e r s o n n e l .
14
15
And we c a n t a l k t h e n ab o u t how I w i l l
s e l e c t
a
j u r y
and whe r e .
J u s t
so
t h a t
e v e r y t h i n g
16 w e l l
go s m o o t h l y
f rom t h e r e .
17
MS. BONJEAN:
E x c e l l e n t .
Thank
you, your
18 Honor .
19
20
21
22
3
24
THE
COIJRT:
Whereupon
t h e c a s e
was p a s s e d
and
later r e c a l l e d . )
L e t s go
on
t h e r e c o r d
w i t h
Anna be l
Melongo .
W e r e still
w a i t in g f o r
t h e j u r y . Our
v e n i r e is n o t i n t h e c o u r t r o o m . The p a r t i e s
a re
5
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
7/222
1
p r e s e n t .
We d id d i s c u s s
o f f t h e
r eco r d
my
j u r y
trial
2 g e n e ra l
p ro c
e
d u re s
in
d i s c u s s i n g - -
in s e l e c t i n g a
3 j u r y .
4 I
now
wish
to
as k p a r t i e s o r ask t h e
5 s t a t e
which
c o u n t s o f t h i s 4 co u n t
i n d i c t m e n t
t h e y
6
s eek to
p ro c e e d
on?
On t h i s 3
co u n t
i n d i c t m e n t
which
7
coun t o r c o u n t s does
t h e
s t a t e
wish to
proceed on.
8 MS. ZARKOS: Count 3 .
9
THE COURT :
J u s t
so
we
re
c l e a r
that s
t h e
10
o f f e n s e
o f
t h e
c o u n t s
t h a t
a l l e g e s
computer
t amper ing
11 between A p r i l 28th ,
2006
c o n t i n u i n g t h ro u g h
May 1
12 2006.
13
s . Melongo knowing ly and w i th o u t t h e
14
a u t h o r i z a t i o n o f
t h e co m p u te r s
owner
acces s ed th e
15
computer program
and
d a t a o r
any
p a r t s
t h e r e o f
and
16 a l t e r e d t h e computer p rogram and d a t a
wi th
t h e i n t e n t
17 to commit an o f f e n s e e s t a b l i s h e d under t h e Illi
n o i s
18 Compute r Crime
Lab 720
ILCS 516 B to w i t h t h a t
on o r
19
ab o u t May
1 ,
2006 Annabe l l e
Melongo acces s ed Save a
20
Li fe
Founda t ion ,
I n c o r p o r a t e d , p a r e n t h e s e s NFP
21
f o u n d e r s computer .
22
E-
m a i l e d t h ro u g h h e r computer
which
23 was
p h y s i c a l l y
l o c k e d ,
bu t
I t h i n k t h a t s a typo
- -
I
24 presume that s l o c a t e d
in S c h i l l e r
Park
and acces s ed
6
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
8/222
2 F o u n d a t i o n ,
In c
s , NPS , p r e s i d e n t and f o u n d e r .
3
These a c t s were done w i t h o u t t h e
4 a u t h o r i z a t i o n ,
knowledge o r c o n s e n t o f t h e owner
.
5 T h a t s t h e c o u n t t h e s t a t e wi s h e s to p r o c e e d on ,
6
c o r r e c t .
7
8
9
10
. ZARKOS :
Yes
.
THE
COURT :
You
wanted
to
make a p o i n t .
. BONJEAN :
I
do
, y o u r Honor .
And p e r h a p s
t h e state can clarify .
Th er e was
a
r e q u e s t
f o r a
11 bill o f
p a r t i c u l a r s
as to each coun t
b ack - - made
12 some
t im e
ago .
13
And
t h e y
f i l e d b ack on J a n u a r y
25,
14 2013 , a
s u p p l e m e n t a l
an sw er
to d i s c o v e r y r e g a r d i n g
15
t h i s
c o u n t .
Th a t
on
o r
a b o u t May
1 s t , 2006 ,
16
a p p r o x i m a t e l y b e t w een t h e h o u rs o f 2 0 :3 1 ,
41
dash
17
23
: 01 31 it s a m i l i t a r y t im e
d e f e n d a n t
18 i n t r u d e d
i n t o
t h e e - m-
a i
- 1
s e r v i c e o f C a r o l
19
S p i z z i r r i two
t i m e s
.
20 I
b e l i e v e
t h a t s u p p l e m e n t a l
an sw er
to
21 d i s c o v e r y r e l a t e s to
Count
3 ; i s t h a t c o r r e c t ?
22 H e r e i n
i s t h e c o n f u s i o n t h a t I
now
f i n d m y s e l f
23 a l t h o u g h t h e
Count
3 , t h e
l a n g u a g e
t r a c k s t h e
24
statute
, t h e f a c t u a l
a l l e g a t i o n do n o t a l l e g e any
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
9/222
a l t e r i n g o f t h e co mp u te r
program
.
2
It j u s t s ay s i n t r u d e d and even in
t h e
3 to w i t it s ay s t h a t w i t h o u t s .
S p i z z i r r i
s
4 a u t h o r i z a t i o n t h a t my c l i e n t
t h ro u g h
h e r computer
5 a c c e s s e d t h e e - m a i l s .
6
7
Now , t h i s becomes
r e l e v a n t
b ecau s e
mere
a c c e s s i s not
a
f e l o n y o f f e n s e
.
It
s a
8 misdemeanor
o f f e n s e
u n d er t h e s t a t u t e .
9
MS. ZARKOS :
It
s
a l t e r a t i o n
by
m
ov
i n g
it
and
1 f o r w a r d i n g it
to e m pl oye e s
a t t h e Save a L i f e
11
Fo u n d a t i o n w i t h a
d i f f e r e n t
h e a d e r .
T h a t
s what t h e
12 f a c t s
w i l l show i n t h e
c a s e
.
13 That she a c c e s s e d it
and
r e s e n t it to
14
c e r t a i n e m pl oye e s o f
t h e Safe
a L i f e
Fo u n d a t i o n
,
15
a l t e r e d
it
by
p u t t i n g
a
new
h e a d e r
on
it.
16
17
. BONJEAN : Umm .
. ZARKOS : A l t e r e d by remova l as my c o l l e a g u e
18
j u s t
t o l d
me .
19 . BONJEAN :
A l t e r e d
by
okay .
Aga in
, I m
2
t r y i n g to s eek
clarification
b ecau s e t h e i n d i c t m e n t
21 and t h e r e q u e s t f o r t h e
bill o f
p a r t i c u l a r s doesn t
22
q u i t e
l a y t h a t o u t .
So
t h e
t h e o r y
o f
t h e s t a t e
i s
23 t h a t by f o r w a r d i n g an e - m a i l , it a l t e r e d
it
, t h e
24
e - mai l
itself?
8
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
10/222
1
2
3
MS. DASGUPTA: A l t e r e d
t h e
d a t a .
. ZARKOS: A l t e r e d t h e d a t a i n t h e e - m - a - i - 1 .
. BONJEAN : A l t e r e d t h e
d a t a i n
th e e - m a i l .
4
Y o u r e
t a l k i n g abou t
by ch an g in g
t h e s u b j e c t
m a t t e r .
6
7
8
9
10
11
MS. ZARKOS :
C o r r e c t .
MS. BONJEAN :
Okay. T h a t s f i n e , your
Honor .
I m going
to
do a
little
r e s e a r c h t o n i g h t .
I m n o t
s u r e t h a t t h a t s what was c o n t e m p l a t e d
by a l t e r a t i o n .
T h i s
i s
t h e
first
t ime
I v e
h e a r d
t h a t
i s
what
t h e y meant by a l t e r e d .
But
that s f i n e
f o r
now.
I do
have
some clarification
o f
what t h e y meant
12 by
a l t e r e d
it .
13 As f a r as I u n d e r s t o o d
a l t e r i n g
files
14
was so meth in g a little d i f f e r e n t
b u t
maybe. And t h e
15
s t a t u t e
t h e y
c i t e
i s
16
D
d ash
383
b u t
I
know
it s
16 been
r en u mb ered .
17 THE COURT:
18
S t a t u t e
2006 .
19
20
MS. BONJEAN:
THE COURT:
21 my 2014
book
--
22
23
24 book.
. BONJEAN :
THE COURT:
T h a t s u n d er t h e Illinois Compi led
C o r r e c t .
And in
l o o k i n g
a t t h i s and c h e c k i n g
C o r r e c t .
- -
I
r e a l i z e
I have
t o g e t
a
2006
9
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
11/222
MS. BONJEAN: It was renumbered
u n d er 720
ILCS
2 5 back
s l a s h 17 dash 51 your Honor i s t h e co mp u te r
3 t amp er in g
s t a t u t e
.
4
5
. ZARKOS:
THE COURT:
C o r r e c t .
I s t h e r e
an y th in g
e l s e
you
wish
to
6
d i s c u s s in co n n ec t i o n
wi th
t h i s
now.
7
8
MS. BONJEAN : I would
j u s t
p o i n t
o u t
t h a t
t h e
s t a t u t e r e a d s
as s u ch .
That t h e y 00
t h a t t h e
A3
i s
9
u n d er
a c c e s s e s
- -
10
11
12
THE COURT:
MS. BONJEAN:
THE COURT:
Let me
- -
Su re .
- -
open up my
book.
And
it s
13 e v e r y b o d y s b e l i e f t h a t t h e new s e c t i o n - -
I
know t h e
14 new s e c t i o n doesn t
app ly
- -
but
j u s t f o r my sak e o f
15
r e f e r e n c e ,
t h e 17
d ash
51
A
3?
16
17
18
19
MS. BONJEAN:
MS. ZARKOS:
THE COURT:
. BONJEAN:
Yes your
Honor ; i s
th a
t c o r r e c t ?
That i s c o r r e c t .
Go ah ead , Ms. Bonjean .
Well , it does
s t a t e
t h a t a c c e s s e s
20
o r
c a u s e s
to be acces s ed
a computer
o r any
p a r t
21
t h e r e o f
a
co mp u te r n e tw o rk f o r
a program o r
d a t a and
22
damages
o r d e s t r o y s
t h e
computer o r alters, d e l e t e s
23
o r r emoves
a
computer
program o r
d a t a .
24
Now , b as ed on what I have h e a rd he re
10
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
12/222
1 t o d a y
t h a t t h e
state is
a l l e g i n g t h a t
by c h a n g i n g
t h e
2 s u b j e c t m a t t e r h e a d i n g o f
an
e - m a i l
t h a t
Ms. Melongo
3
r emoved d a t a
in
an
e -
m a i l , and
I m
t r y i n g to
4
u n d e r s t a n d
6
. DASGUPTA: If I
c o u l d
j u s t clarify , we r e
s a y i n g t h a t
when
she a c c e s s e d t h e pr og r a m
o r
when
7
she a c c e s s e d
a
pr og r a m and
d a t a ,
and t h a t she a l t e r e d
8
t h e d a t a when she f o r w a r d e d t h a t e - m a i l to h e r s e l f
.
9
It
alters
t h e d a t a
j u s t
by
d o i n g
t h a t .
10 And t h e n she went on to c ha nge
t h e
11 s u b j e c t
h e a d e r
and fo rw ard it
on
t o
o t h e r s .
T h a t s
12 t h e
first alteration
w e r e s a y i n g is t h e r e m ova l f rom
1 3 when she f o r w a r d e d it t o h e r s e l f .
14
MS. BONJEAN:
A l l r i g h t .
Your Honor ,
I
b e l i e v e
15
t h i s
may
be a
v e r y
c r e a t i v e
i n t e r p r e t a t i o n
and
maybe
16
a c a s e o f first
i m p r e s s i o n .
17
18
q u e s t i o n .
But
a t
l e a s t I
have
an
a ns we r to
my
And I
w i l l
c e r t a i n l y fo l l o w up if I
have
19
a n y t h i n g
f u r t h e r to add a b o u t this.
20
21
But ,
a g a i n ,
this
i s
a
new t h e o r y as
f a r
a s
I m c o n c e r n e d .
But
p e r h a p s
t h e y
have had t h a t
22
in mind
all
a l o n g .
3
THE COURT: I say in
t h e
c o n t e x t
o f
n o t
24 h a v i n g
11
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
13/222
MS . BONJEAN :
Sur e .
2 THE OU RT:
- - h a v i n g
a n y t h i n g
to do w i t h t h i s
3
c a s e o t h e r t h a n maybe sitting in
f
o r J udge Goe be l
on
4 some d a t e
months
ago
when
I r e c a l l b e i n g i n
f r o n t
5 Ms .
Melongo
b e i n g i n f r o n t o f me f o r a m i n i s t e r i a l
6
c o n t i n u a n c e
.
7
8
9
MS BONJEAN :
THE COURT:
MS
.
BONJEAN
:
C o r r e c t
.
My
r e c o l l e c t i o n
.
Yes
.
10
THE COURT:
So I don t kno w a n y t h i n g ab o u t t h e
11 c a s e
.
MS BONJEAN
:
R i g h t .
THE COURT : I can on ly
i m a g i ne
why you re
12
13
14
making t h e s e r e p r e s e n t a t i o n .
And I don t
b eg ru d g e
15
your efforts
MS . BONJEAN :
Sur e .
THE COURT :
n o r
do I
b eg ru d g e
your
16
17
18
r e s p o n s e s
.
But
when you say
t h i n g s
lik
e t h i s may be
19
a new t h e o r y , a r e you
r e q u e s t i n g
in any manner o r
20
s u g g e s t i n g
t h a t
you
re t a k e n
a ba c k , and
you
ne e d t ime
21
to
p r e p a r e o r
a n y t h i n g l i k e
t h a t ?
22
MS BONJEAN : Not a t t h i s t ime , your Honor .
If
23 my p o s i t i o n were to c ha nge on
t h a t
I would
let t h e
24 Co u r t
know
as so on as
p o s s i b l e .
12
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
14/222
po
in
l
2
I
have any r e a s o n .
Aga in
,
this is
a
new t h e o r y
.
I
3
w i l l p u t t h a t on t h e r e c o r d
.
4
5
But
I
don
' t
b e l i e v e t h a t t h e r e is any
r e a s o n to be b e l i e v e t h a t
we
can
' t
p r o c e e d t o d a y .
I
6
t h i n k
it s a
p r o o f
i s s u e q u i t e
h o n e s t l y .
7 And
t h e state ha s
r e p r e s e n t e d I t h i n k
8
t h e
q u e s t i o n o f
what
is a l t e r i n g o r
r e m ov ing i s
n o t
9 g o i n g
to
be a nswe r e d
by t h e c a s e
law .
10 I don ' t b e l i e v e t h e d e f i n i t i o n c l e a r ly
11 states w h e t h e r o r n o t t h e r e t h e o r y would in f a c t be
12
an
u n v i a b l e one
,
so .
13 THE COURT : I
l i k e
to s a y
s om e t im e s
I g u es s
14 this is why we
ha ve
trials .
15
16
MS BONJEAN :
we ' re a t r i g h t now .
Yes
, I t h i n k
that s k in d o f where
But I am t h a n k f u l
f o r a t
least I
17 know what
t h e
t h e o r y is b e c a u s e a s f a r as I
c o u l d s e e
18 it was a
mere
a c c e s s i n g c h a r g e , n o t an
alteration
19 c h a r g e
.
20
Al t hough ,
l i k e
I s a i d
t h e
statute
21 itself ,
t h e
l a n g u a g e o f
t h e statute
was t r a c k e d in
22
Coun t
3 ,
b u t t h e t o
w it
d i d
n o t m e n t i o n
any
23 alteration
.
24 In f a c t in t h e r e a nswe r t o d i s c o v e r y
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
15/222
1 on t h e i r --
where t h e y
were a s k e d f o r more d e t ails
2 doe sn t
sugg es
t
any
a
lte
r
a t i o n
e i t h e r .
3
But
I m n o t
s u r p r i s e d t h a t t h a t t h e y
4 a r e a l l e g i n g f a c t u a l l y t h a t she
c ha nge d - -
t h e
f a c t u a l a l l e g a t i o n s a re
n o t a
s u r p r i s e
if t h a t
makes
6
s en s e .
7
THE COURT : I b e l i e v e it doe s
a t
t h i s p o i n t b u t
8
it
s more h e l p f u l
t h a t it
makes
s e n s e
to
all o f you
.
9
10
11
12
13
14
. BONJEAN :
Yes
THE COURT :
It
s
more i m p o r t a n t t h a t you
all
u n d e r s t a n d a t t h i s j u n c t u r e w h a t s g o in g
on.
Me
I ll c a t c h up
. We
re
still w a i t i n g f o r o u r j u r o r s .
But I do want to b ro ach one s u b j e c t .
You s a i d
so meth in g ab o u t a
misdemeanor
. Have
t h e r e
15 be e n p l e a d i s c u s s i o n s in
t h i s
c a s e ?
16 And
h e re
s why I ask :
It
s
o f
no
17
moment
to
me
what
you
do ,
j u r y trial
, bench
trial,
18
19
p l e a s e
o f
g u i l t y .
It
doe sn t m a t t e r to
me
a t
all.
In
b ro a c h i n g t h i s
s u b j e c t ,
b ecau s e
I
20
j u s t want to
make t h a t if
t h e r e
were
p l e a
21
d i s c u s s i o n s , I want to
make
s
u re
Ms. Melongo i s
aware
22 o f
t hem
c o n s i s t e n t w i t h
what I b e l i e v e my
23
r e s p o n s i b i l i t i
es
p u r s
u an t
to
L a f l e r v e r s u s
Co o p e r ,
24 L -a - f - 1 - e - r ,
U n i t ed S t a t e s supreme
c o u r t
c as
e in
14
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
16/222
1 P e o p l e
v e r s u s
Ke r r ( p h o n e t i c ) .
2
3
Have t h e r e be e n p l e a
n e g o t i a t i o n .
. ZARKOS :
T he r e were p l e a n e g o t i a t i o n s in
4
R o l l i n g meadows
back
i n 2006
,
your Honor .
6
7
THE COURT : T h i s is
what
c l a s s
f e l
ony?
. ZARKOS : 4 .
THE COURT :
C l a s s
4
f e l o n y .
Did
t h e
8 n e g o t i a t i o n s
i n v o l v e
a p l e a o f
g u i l t y to
s o m e t h i n g
9
l e s s
t h a n
t h e
c l a s s
4
f e l o n y
c h a r g e ?
10
11
12
. ZARKOS :
I b e l i e v e
t h a t
is
t h e
c a s e .
THE COURT : I s
t h a t o f f e r
still
open?
. ZARKOS : I
b e l i e v e it is n o t still ope n .
13
have
n o t I t h i n k it was r e j e c t e d .
I
14
MS.
BONJEAN
:
Yes , your
Honor
, my client w ish es
15
t o a s s e r t h e r r i g h t
to
p r o c e e d
to
trial
on all
16
c h a r g e s r e g a r d l e s s o f
and
I
u n d e r s t a n d what
you
17
a re
18 THE COURT :
She a b s o l u t e l y ha s
t h e r i g h t
to do
19
t h a t
.
20
21
22
23
24
. BONJEAN :
R i g h t
.
THE COURT :
I m n o t
s u g g e s t i n g t h a t she
d o e s n t .
But
I just
want
to make
b e f o r e
we
g e t t o
a
p o i n t where
we
go to triaJ .
She g e t s
f ound g u i lty o f
a
f e l o n y .
And
t h e n s a y s
,
w a i t
a m i n u t e ,
you mean
I
15
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
17/222
2
3
c o u l d ha ve had this.
I d id n t know a b o u t this.
MS BONJEAN:
R i g h t , I
u n d e r s t a n d
.
THE COURT:
I want to make s u r e
we
r e o f r e c o r d
4 what it i s
t h a t
she d i d r e j e c t .
5 . BONJEAN :
I b e l i e v e she d i d r e j e c t a
6
m is de m e a nor
p l e a .
Yes
.
7 THE COURT : What was t h e o f f e r if
you r e c a l l ?
8
9
MS ZARKOS :
I do n o t
recall.
I d i d
n o t
make
t h e
o f f e r
. I
do
b e l i e v e
it
was
misdemean
o r
. I
don
t
10
remember what
t h e
s e n t e n c i n g was , b u t
it
was a
11
m is de m e a nor , your Honor
12
THE COURT :
Do
you
r e c a l l -- and
yo
u
p r
o b a b l y
13
d id n t r e p r e s e n t
h e r ba c k t h e n
.
14
. BONJEAN :
No , I
d i d
n o t .
But my client ha s
15
i n d i c a t e d
t o
me
t h a t
even
in
t h i s
c o u r t
b u i l d i n g
,
16 t h e r e were t h r e e
t i m e s o f f e r
s e x t e n d e d
t h a t i n v o l v e d
17 a p l e a t o a m is de m e a nor .
1 8
THE COURT :
In
e xc ha nge
f o r what
k i nd
o f
19 recommended s e n t e n c e
20
21
. BONJEAN:
She
b e l i e v e s
t h a t
t h e r e was no
jail t i m e a s s o c i a t e d
w i t h
t h a t And , o f c o u r s e , she
22 d i d
do jail t ime u n d e r
t h e
e a v e s d r o p p i n g s t a
t u t e
o f
23 c l o s e to a y e a r and a h a l f t h a t was u l t im a t e l y
h e l d
24 u n c o n s t i t u t i o n a l and t h rown
o u t
.
16
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
18/222
1
2
a l r e a d y .
So o b v i o u s l y she
h a s done
some t ime
In any e v e n t
sh e
still
w i s h e s
and i s f u l l y
3
aware and
k n o wi n g l y
r e j e c t e d th
o se p l e a
o f f e r s
4 b a c k
- -
5 I
d o n t know t h e
e x a c t
d a t e b e c a u s e
I
wasn
t on
t h e c a s e .
But t h e y were
o f f e r e d even a f t e r
7
2006,
as I
u n d e r s t a n d
and a s
s
. Melongo
r e p r e s e n t s .
MS ZARKOS :
Your
Honor , I
c o u l d a c t u a l l y
9
c h e c k
. I
ve
come
l a t e
to
t h i s
c a s e .
I
ve
b e e n
on
10 f o r a b o u t
a
month .
11
I
c o u l d
c h e c k
w i t h t h e fo rmer ASA
12 I m
l o o k i n g a t t h e b l u e
b ack s
to
s e e e x a c t l y what
13 k in d o f o f f e r was
made
14
THE COURT :
Did it
i n v o l v e
an
o f f e r o f
15
s u p e r v i s i o n
which u n d er
t h e
law wou ld
not
be a
16
c o n v i c t i o n
. And
p r o b a t i o n , c o n d i t i o n a l d i s c h a r g e on
17
a misdemeano r
p r o b a b l y
no
s u b s t a n t i v e d i f f e r e n c e
18 b e t we e n
t h o s e two
.
19
P r o b a t i o n
,
c o n d i t i o n a l d i s c h a r g e
on
20 t h e one hand
,
s u p e r v i s i o n on t h e o t h e r hand
,
21 s u b s t a n t ial d i f
f e r
en ce on its
22
23
. ZARKOS :
THE COURT :
24
p erman en t
r eco r d .
I can --
p o t e n t i a l
e f f e c t
on so meb o d y s
17
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
19/222
1
. ZARKOS :
2 THE COURT : So I d l i k e to know j u s t
have it o f
3
r e c o r d t h a t
she
knew
t h i s i s
what it
was , and she
4
r e j e c t e d it o r
--
5
6
. ZARKOS :
THE COURT :
No p ro b lem.
--
w h a t e v e r
t h e
c a s e maybe
7
h e r e a f t e r
.
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
. ZARKOS:
THE COURT :
THE COURT :
I
w i l l
f i n d
o u t
.
W e l l p a s s t h e
cas e .
Whereupon ,
t h e ca
se was p a s s e d
and later
r e c a l l e d .
)
Back on r e c o r d w i t h Ms. Mel
ongo s
c a s e . What were you a b l e
to
f i n d o u t , Ms . Zark
os
.
. ZARKOS:
T he r e
were no o f f e r s made
in
t h i s
b u i l d i n g a c c o rd i n g
to
t h e ASA.
No
o f f e r s made
in
t h i s
b u i l d i n g .
He b e l i e v e s
t h a t
i n Ro llin g Meadows
18 when t h e c a s e first s t a r t e d i n t h e p r o
b a b l e cau s e
19 h e a r i n g
,
t h e r e
was
an o f f e r
o f
a misdemean o
r .
20
21
It s n o t r e f l e c t e d
in t h i s
b l u e
b a c k .
THE COURT :
No s e n t e n c e o f f e r made i n
22 c o n n e c t i o n w i t h t h a t
o f f e r
o f a m i sde m e a nor .
23
24
MS. ZARKOS : He b e l i e v e s
s u p e r v i s i o n ,
misdemeano r .
But
he
doe s
n o t have
a c c e s s .
It s
n o t
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
20/222
1
2
3
4
5
blue
back in
the blue
back
.
It
s
n o t r e f l e c t e d
in
h i s
r e c o r d .
THE COURT :
T h a t o f f e r open now?
S . ZARKOS :
No .
THE COURT :
A l l
r i g h t
I s
t h a t c o n s i s t e n t w i t h
6
your u n d e r s t a n d i n g o f t h e p l e a o f t h e
h i s t o r y
o f t h e
7
c a s e
,
Ms Bonjean
,
full c o g n i z a n t o f t h e f a c t t h a t
8
you
weren t i n v o l v e d t h e n
t h a t
it
s a
2008 c a s e
9
e a r l y
on
in R o l l i n g
Meadows
an
o f f e r
o f p l e a
o f
10 g u i l t y
to a
misdemeanor w i t h t h e r e c om m e nda t i on t h a t
11 s u p e r v i s i o n be o f f e r e d
was
t h e o f f e r
.
S
.
BONJEAN:
Yes , I
b e l i e v e t h a t was t h e o f f e r
2
13
t h a t was
made in 2006 .
y
c l i e n t seems
to remember
14
t h a t
o f f e r was r enewed o v e r t h e
c o u r s e
o f t h e
15
litigation
o v e r
t h e
last
e i g h t
y e a r s
.
16
And
I
don
t
know it was f o r m a l i z e d
17 It s
n o t - -
b u t sh e
i s
a t
a
minimum p e r f e c t l y aware
18 o f t h e o f f e r
o f
misdemeanor
w i t h
a
r e c om m e nda t i on
o f
19 s u p e r v i s i o n
ba c k
in
2006 .
20
And
a t t h i s
p o i n t
c o n t i n u e s
to
wish to
21 r e s p e c t f u l l y
r e j e c t
t h a t o f f e r
.
THE COURT : Which
sh e s entitled
to
do .
I want
2
3
ev e ry b o d y to be c l e a r
.
I m
n o t a s k i n g t h i s b ecau s e
I
24
t h i n k you au g h t
to
do
one
t h i n g o r t h e o t h e r
,
1 9
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
21/222
2
3
Ms.
Melongo
.
I
j u s t want to make s u r e t h a t
t h e
r e c o r d is
u n d e r s t o o d
- -
o r
u n d e r s t a n d t h a t you had an
4
o f f e r
f o r
misdemeanor
w i t h
a
recommended
s e n t e n c e o f
5 s u p e r v i s i o n , and you r e j e c te d t h a t ;
i s
t h a t c o r r e c t ?
6
7
8
THE DEFENDANT :
Yes ,
Judge
.
THE COURT :
Then we
re
ll
s e t
.
And
if t h e y re
r ead y , K el l y , when can
b r i n g
o u r j u r o r s i n .
You
can
9 p u t
t hem
on t h a t s i d e if you
would
.
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
THE SHERIFF :
E ve r ybody on t h i s s i d e .
. ZARKOS :
May
we be s e a t e d ?
THE COURT :
A b s o l u t e l y you
may be s e a t e d .
Thank
you , K el l y
yes
.
St an d up and r a i s e y o u r r i g h t
ha nd .
Thank you .
THE COURT :
Thanks ,
f o l k s
.
V en i re sworn . )
You c o u l d be
s e a t e d .
I m
g o in g to c a l l
o f f
28
o f
your names
t h i s
t i m e .
The first
p e r s o n
w i l l be s e a t e d in
t h e
At
19 l st row
ll
t h e way in t h e
c o r n e r .
20 We ll go ll t h e
down t h e
l st row
21 t h e n t h r o u g h t h e seco n d row , t h e
t h i r d
row and t h e
22
f o u r t h
row
b e g i n n i n g
w i t h
Taneka
C a n t e r , T - a - n - e - k - a ,
23 c - a - n - t - e - r , Mich ae l , B- a - r - c - a - s , James ,
24
R- e -d - d - i - n - g - e - r , first
name
,
Cruz
, C
- r - u
- z ,
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
22/222
1
C -r
- o - s - s - 1 - e - y ,
Rona ld
Da v i s , John
S p r a g u e
2 S - p - r - a - g - u - e , Ma ri a Moran , M- o - r -
a -n
, N i r a n j a n
3
P a t e l
, N i r a n j a n , N- i r - a - n - j - a - n , P - a -
t - e
-
1 .
4
5
seco n d
row.
Miss
, you w i l l be t h e
last
s e a t in t h e
Mr
.
P a t e l
, you
w i l l be
t h e f u r t h e s t
s e a t
6 in th e seco n d row
o r t h i r d
row d ep en d in g on
your
7 p e r s p e c t i v e .
8
E r n e s t P i a z z i , P - i - a - z - z - i , Deandre
9
D-e
- a - n - d - r - e ,
B a r b a r a
, B- a - r - b - a - r -
a
i s
t h e
first
10
name.
I s t h e
first
name Tamayo
o r
Mar ia .
11
Ms.
Hernandez ,
what
s t h e
first
name?
12
13
PROSPECTIVE
JUROR :
Mar ia .
THE COURT :
Maria Hernandez Tamayo
,
14 T -a - m- a - y - o ,
good a f t e r n o o n
.
15
16
PROSPECTIVE
JUROR:
Good
a ro u n d .
THE COURT :
B r e nda G a r c i a ,
Ro b er t Seggerman
,
17 S - e - g - g - e - r - m- a -
n
Mol l y She r i d a n , S - h - e - r - i - d - a - n
18 l i k e
S h e r i d a n
Ro a d , Mich ae l Mourke , M- o - u - r - k -
e .
19
20
Mr . Mourke , you w i l l be t h e f u r t h e s t
s e a t
in
th e y e s .
Marian
B i a l a s
, B- i - a - 1 - a - s
21 Marian , M- a - r - i - a - n , T i f f a n i w i t h an I ,
22 T - i - f - f - a - n - i , Byrd , B- y - r - d , Ro b er t S t e w a r t
23 S - t - e - w- a - r - t ,
N i t i r u t
, N- i - t - i - r - u - t , d i d I
24 p ro n o u n ce
t h a t
c o r r e c t l y ?
21
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
23/222
PROSPECTIVE
JUROR
:
Yes
.
2
THE
OU
RT:
Good a f
t e
r n o on , s ir .
L a s t nam
e ,
3
Ch
u mas an g s r i , C- h - u - m- a - s - a - n - g - s - r - i ,
V i c t o r
, last
4
na
me
Luengo
- Pe r ea , L u - e - n - g - o ,
da sh
,
P e
- r - e - a , Anna
5 Ca r m i c ha e l , C- a - r - m- i - c - h - a e 1 , P a t i e
nc
e Nun oo ,
6 N- u - n - o - o . Did I p ro n o unce t h a t c o r r e c t l y .
7 PROSPEC
T IVE JUROR :
Yes
.
8 THE COURT :
Good a f t e r n o o n
.
Min , M i n , Park ,
9
P
a
- r - k ,
John
0
S u l l i v a n
, C
h r i s
Rob i nson
,
J o s e
10 M o n t i j o
, M- o
n
t - i - j - o , C h a r l e s S t empien ,
11 S - t - e - m- p - i - e - n ,
S t e p h e n F i s c h e r
, F - i - s - c - h -
e r .
12
13
Good a f t e r n o o n
a g a i n ,
e v e r y b o d y .
t o l d
you
t h i
s morning , my name i s Tim
Jo
yce .
As I
I m t h e
14 j u d g e
h e re
in Cook C oun ty C i r c u i t Co u r t who w i l l
be
15
p r e s i d i n g
o v e r
t h i
s
c a s e in
which
you
ve
been
c a l l e d
16 upon to
si t
a s p ro
s
p e c t i v e j u r o r s
.
17
18
The
c a s e
o f t h e p e o p l e o f t h e s t a t e o f
ll in o
i s
v e r s u s A n n ab e l l e
Melongo
.
F i r s t
t h i n g I
19 wan
t
to do is t o in t r o d u c e you t o t h e p a r t i e s i n t h e
20
c a s e in o u r c o u r t p e r s o n n
e l .
21
The
p e o p l e o f t h e s t a t e o f llin o i s in
22
th i s ca
se
a r e r e p r e s e n t e d by Cook
C oun ty A s s i s t a n t
23 S t a t e s A t t o r n e y Nancy Z a r kos .
24
S . ZARKOS :
Good a f t e r n o o n
, l a d i e s
and
22
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
24/222
1 g en t l emen o f
t h e
j u r y
.
2
3
4
6
THE COURT :
And
A s s i s t a n t S t a t e
s A t t o r n e y
Debjan i Dasgupta .
Good a f t e rn o o n
,
s
. D asg u p ta
. DASGUPTA :
Good
a f t e r n o o n .
THE COURT :
s . Melongo i s r e p r e s e n t e d
by
two
a t t o r n e y s
.
One o f whom not
h e re
t o d ay
b u t w i l l
be
7
tomorrow
, s . J e n n i f e r Bonjean i s h e re t h i s
8
9
a f t e r n o o n
Good
a f t e r n o o n ,
s
. Bonjean .
MS. BONJEAN :
Good a f t e rn o o n
,
Judge
Good
10
a f t e rn o o n , l a d i e s and g e n t l e m e n
11
THE COURT :
And t h e a t t o r n e y who
w i l l
be h e re
12 tomorrow
i s
Andrea
T a t e l .
13
14
. BONJEAN :
THE COURT :
C o r r e c t
And
t h e d e fe n d a n t i s Ms. A n n a b e l l e
15
Good
a f t e r n o o n
,
s
. Melongo .
16
17
THE DEFENDANT :
Good
a f t e r n o o n
THE COURT :
F i r s t
t h i n g
I
want to as k you
18 fo l k s , and when I s ay a s k you I
mean
you and t h o s e o f
19 you I
have
n o t
c a l l e d up
y e t
do
you know o r t h i n k you
20
may
know
m y s e l f ,
any
o f t h e o
rneys o r
s . Melongo?
21
22
23
I f s o , p l e a s e r a i s e your h an d s
No
hands a r e
r a i s e d
.
Our c l e r k i s
Samantha She
i s t h e
b e s t one in
t h e
b u i l d i n g
.
She s
r e s p o n s i b l e
f o r
24
m a i n t a i n i n g th e
f i l e s t h a t
we
have
in
t h i s room
, t h e
23
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
25/222
1 many c a s e s ke e p i n g
t h a t you
re
r e s o l v e d o f and
2
k eep in g t r a c k
o f
n o t on
l y
o f t h e files b u t o f t h e
3 o r d e r s
t h a t g e t
e n t e r e d
by
me c o n c e r n i n g
how t h o s e
4
c a s e s w i l l p r o c e e d t h r o u g h t h e
c r i m i n a l j u s t i c e
5
sys tem
.
6
She is a l s o r e s p o n s i b l e f o r
7 a d m i n i s t e r i n g
o a t h s
t o
w i t n e s s e s
and
to
p e r s p e c t i v e
8 to j u r o r s .
She j u s t t o o k on a t h e r i n s t a n c e j u s t
9
now
10
11
12
Our s h e r i f f s a r e Tim and
K e l l y
They
a r e n o t
among
t h e
b e s t
in t h e b u i l d i n g
.
They
a r e t h e
b e s t in t h e b u i l d i n g
.
They
re
r e s p o n s i b l e f o r
13 m a i n t a i n i n g s e c u r i t y and o r d e r in t h e c o u r t r o o m which
14
f r a n k l y
I
don
t t h i n k you re g o in g t o have wor r y
15
a b o u t
i n
t h i s
i n s t a n c e
.
16
M ost l y
f o r a bunch o f
r e a s o n s
b u t
17 n o t t h e
l e a s t
o f which was
their abilities.
They a r e
18 a l s o r e s p o n s i b le fo r
m i nd i ng
you so t o s p e a k , t a k i n g
19
c a r e o f you
n o t
o n l y
t h i s a f t e r n o o n ,
b u t if
you
a r e
20
21
22
23
s e l e c t e d
a s
j u r o r s
.
T h i s a f t e r n o o n I w i l l
be
a s k i n g
a t
l e a s t
t h o s e 28 o f you
who
I
have
c a l l e d as
p e r s p e c t i v e j u r o r s c e r t a i n q u e s t i o n s
If after this
24 a f t e r n o o n
o r p e r h a p s later
t o d a y , you
wis h
t o
24
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
26/222
2
c o n v e r s a t i o n
not
d i r e c t l y
wi th me ,
b u t
t h ro u g h Ke l ly
3 and Tim .
Say
, Kel ly ,
Tim
, I have to
t a l k
t o the
5
judge abou t t h i s o r t h a t Give them some kind o f
6 a p p r e c i a t i o n o f
what it
i s
t h a t you wish to t a l k
7
8
abou t wi th me .
They w i l l communica te w i t h me
And
I w i l l
t h e r e a f t e r
d e t e r min e in
9 c o n c e r t
wi th
t he a t t o r n
eys
and .
Melongo
whether we
10 s h o u l d t a l k
wi th
you
and
t he
manner
in which I s h o u l d
11
t a l k wi th
you
.
12 So if you
wish
to speak
wi th
me a f t e r
13 I as k ed you
q u e s t i o n s
h e re in open
c o u r t
initi te
14
t h a t
t h ro u g h Tim o r
K el ly
15
16
Our
c o u r t r e p o r t e r i s Adrienne
s i m i l a r l y
t he b e s t in the b u i l d i n g .
She has t h e
ve ry
17 d i f f i c u l t cha l l e n g i ng
j ob o f
t a k i n g
d
own e v e r y t h i n g
18 in t h i s room
t h a t
ge t s
s a i d
v e r b a t im word fo r
word
19 I
ment ion
in
p a r t i c u l a r
now because
20 when I st rt as k in g t h o s e
o f
you
who
a re our
28
21 i n d i v i d u a l
q u e s t i o n s
by
t h e
t i me I
g e t
to
t h e
sec ond
22 one
o f you
,
you w i l l know th a
t
t h e r e i s
a
p a t t e r n to
23 t h e q u e s t i o n s I
ask
and t h e i n fo rm a t i o n I m seek ing
24
to
elicit .
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
27/222
1
Even
t hough yo u w i l l
kn
ow by
t h e
t i m e
2 I
g e t
to
you what i n f o r m a t i o n
I m
s e e i n g to
e
licit
I
3
woul
d
beg you to w a i t
until I
ha ve f i n a n
c e d my
4 q u e s t i o n
b e f o r e
up
b e g i n
your
an sw er .
So A d r i e n n e s v e r y diffi c u l t j o b i s
6
n o t made e ve n more
c h a l l e n g i n g
by us t a l k i n g
o v e r
one
7
a n o t h e r .
And I ,
in
t u r n ,
w i l l e n d e a v o r to w a i t
until
8 you
have
f i n i s h e d your a ns we r
b e f o r e
I
b e g i n t h e n e x t
9
q u e s t i o n .
1 I m g o i n g to talk a little bit this
11 a f t e r noon a b o u t
some
i n s t r u c t i o n s
on
t h e
l aw t h a t
12
w
ill a p p l y
in this
c a s e . T he s e a r e
n o t
you
r
f i n a l
13 i n s t r u c t i o n s on t h e l aw
t h o s e
w i l l come a t
t h e
end o f
14
t h e c a s e after
you
have h e a r d all o f t h e ev i d en ce and
15
t h e
a r g u m e n t s
o f t h e att o r n e y s .
16 Those i n s t r u c t i o n w i l l
be
r e a d to you
17
18
h e r e
in open c o u r t . And
you
w i l l
have t hem
in
w r i t
i n g in t h e
j u r y
room when
you
d e l i b e r a t e .
I
do
19 want to
tell you t h a t
you mu s t
f o l l o w t h e
l aw a s I
2 g i v e it to you .
21
You
may
n o t
use
your own i d e a s o f what
22
23
you b e l i e v e t h e l aw s h o u l d
be .
T h i s
is
n o t
a soa p
box .
It s
a j u r y
box . And t h e manner in
which we
24 d ec i d e
t h e s e
c a s e i s
by
call
in g upon
i n d i
v id
u a l s
26
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
28/222
1 drawn from o u r
communi ty
2 And
impos ing upon
them t h e
3 r e s p o n s i b i l i t
i e s
to
l i s t e n
to
the e v i d e n c e
t
ha t w i l l
4 come f rom t he
w i tn es s
s t a n d t h a t I m p o i n t i n g a t , t h e
S
law t h a t I
w i l l give to
you .
6
And
in
t h a t
way
d ec id e th e ca s e by
7 ap p ly in g th e
law to the e v i d e n c e and
d ec id e th e
c a s e
8
Noth ing
more
and
n o
t h i n g
l e s s . . Melongo
in t h i s
9
case
i s
cha rged wi th
t he o f f e n s e
computer
t amp e r in g
10 She
has p lead ed n o t
g u i l t y .
11
More
s p e c i f i c a l l y , t i s
cha rged
t h a t
12
on o r
ab o u t A p r i l
28th
, 2006 ,
and
c o n t i n u i n g
to
on
o r
13 ab o u t
May
1 , 2006 ,
she
commit ted t h a t o f f e n s e i n t h a t
14
she knowing ly
and
w i th o u t
a u t h o r i z a t i o n o f t he
15
comp
u t e r
owner
acces s ed t h e
computer
program
and
d a t a
16
o r any
p a r t
t h e r e o f and a l t e r e d t he
co mput
e r
program
17
and
d a t a
wi th
t he
i n t e n t
to commit an o f f e n s e
18 e
s t
a
b l i s h e d under
t h e I l l i n o i s cr ime law ; to
w it
,
19 t h a t on o r
abou t
May 1 , 2006 ,
Annabe l l e
Melongo
20 acce s s ed Save a
Li fe Founda t ion
, I n c o r p o r a t e d ,
21
founde r
s co mp u te r e -
mai l t h rough h e r
c ompu
t e r
wh
i c h
22 was p h y s i c a l l y l o c a t e d in S c h i l l e r Park I l l i n o i s and
23
acces s ed th e e -
mai l s o f
Caro l
S p i z z i r r i
,
Save
a
L i f e
24
Founda t ion
I n c o r p o r a t e d s
p r e s i d e n t
and
fo u n d e r
2 7
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
29/222
1
These a c t s
w e r e done
w i t h o u t t h e
2 a u t h o r i z a t i o n ,
knowledge
o r
c o n s e n t
o f t h e
c o m p u t e r s
3
owne r .
To t h a t
c r ime Ms Melongo ha s
p l e a d e d n o t
4 g u i l t y .
5
T h i s ch a rg e
, l a d i e s and g e n t l e m e n , i s
c o n t a i n e d in a
document
c a l l e d t h e i n d i c t m e n t . You
7
must
remember --
it s
a b s o l u t e l y
t h a t you
remember
8
t h a t
t h e i n d i c t m e n t i s n o t to
be
co n s i d e r e d by
you
as
9
e v i d e n c e
a g a i n s t
Ms
Melongo
n o r
doe s
t h e
law
a l l o w
10 you
to draw
any i n f e r e n c e o r p r e s u m p t i on as to h e r
11 guilt s i m p l y b e c a u s e she ha s be e n ch a r ged .
12
13
14
Tha t
document
i s s i m p l y
t h e fo rma l
way
in
which
. Melongo i s p l a c e d on trial. I m g o in g
to r e ad you
a
list o f w i t n e s s e s
.
I d o n t know
15
whe the
r
all
t h e s e w i t n e s s
w i l l
testify
o r
n o t .
16 O f t e n t i m e s n o t all
o f t h e
w i t n e s s e s
17
testify .
In my d i s c u s s i o n with t h e a t t o r n e y s , I
do
18 b e l i e v e I m v e r y
c o n f i d e n t
t h a t this m a t t e r w i l l be
19 c o n c l u d
ed
by
Wednesday
o f
t h i s
week .
20 I d as k you to
listen
c a r e f u l l y to
21
t h e s e w
i t n e s s e s
names .
W i l l i a m Marti n i s a d e t e c t i v e
22
f rom what
ag en cy .
23
24
MS ZARKOS :
THE COURT :
S c h i l l e r Pa r k Po
lice D ep ar tmen t .
S c h i l l e r Pa r k P o l i c e D e t e c t i v e
28
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
30/222
1
Wil l i am Mar t i n Ms
.
Caro l
S p i z z i r r i ,
2 S - p - i - z - z - i - r -
r-i
,
Ms
.
Shawna Vo i t a
, a V- o - i -
t - a
,
Don
3 P e t e r s ,
Vincen t Davis
,
Yaniv
, Y- a -
n - i
- v ,
S c h i f f ,
4 S - c - h - i - f - f , f rom
F o r e n s i c
Con phone t
i c
) .
5
V i c t o r Rodr iguez ,
John
S c hu l d t ,
S - c - h - u -
1 -d -t Barba r a R i cha rd son .
Do
you
- -
and
7
aga in no t on l y you 28
,
bu t all
o f
you
in
t he
8
cou r t room
know
o r
t h i n k you
may
know any o f t h o s e
9
pe r s on s ?
I f
so
p l e a s e
r a i s e
your hand
.
One
10
gen t l eman has r a i s e d h i s
hand
,
no t
one o f ou r 28 .
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
What s your name , sir .
PROSPECTIVE
JUROR
:
J o s eph L .
Houdek
.
THE COURT :
Jo seph L . Houdek .
PROSPEC TI V JUROR
: Yes ,
Joe
,
you can me.
THE COURT :
H o
- d - e - k .
PROSPECTIVE
JUROR : H- o - u - d - e - k .
THE COURT : I
beg
your
pa rdon .
PROSPECTIVE JUROR
:
Tha t
s
all r i g h t .
THE COURT : Thank
you
.
You
can be s e a t e d , sir.
Anybody e l s e ? No o t h e r hands a r e
r a i s e d .
I do want
21
to
r e ad
you
s eve r a l
i n s t r u c t i o n s no w
,
f o l k s .
22 F i r s t
,
under t h e
l aw
t h e
de fendan t
i s
23
presumed to
be i n noc e n t
o f t h e
cha rge s
a g a i n s t him.
24 Th i s p r e sump t i on r ema ins wi t h
he r t h roug
hou t eve ry
29
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
31/222
1 s t a g e
o f t h e tr
i
a l and d u r i n g your d e l i b e r a t i o n s on
2
you
r v e r d i c t .
3
And it is n o t overcome u n l e s s
f rom
all
I t h e e v i d e n c e you a r e
co n v i n ced
be yond a r e a s o n a b l e
5
6
doub t t h a t t h e
d e fe n d a n t
is g u i l t y .
I s t h e r e
a nyone
h e r e who does n o t u n d e r s t a n d
t h i s
i n s t r u c t i o n If
7 I so p l e a s e r a i s e your h a n d s
8
No
ha nds a r e r a i s e d
.
I s t h e r e
a nyone
9
I
h e r e who
does
n o t
a c c e p t
o r
w i l l
n o t
f o l l o w
t h i s
1 i n s t r u c t i o n ?
If s o
p l e a s e
r a i s e your
hand
. No
11 I ha nds a r e r a i s e d
.
12 Second
t h e s t a t e has t h e b u rd en o f
13 I p r o v i n g t h e guilt o f
t h e d e f e n d a n t
b e yond a
14
r e a s o n a b l e
d o u b t
.
And
t h i s
b u rd en rema in s on t h e
15
I
s t a t e
t h r o u g h o u t
this
c a s e
.
I s t h e r e
anyone
h e r e who does n o t
6
17
18
u n d e r s t a n d
this
i n s t r u c t i o n ?
hand .
No ha nds a r e r a i s e d
I f so
p l e a s e
r a i s e your
I s
t h e r e
anyone h e r e who
19
I
doe s
n o t
who
w i l l n o t fo l l o w o r
doe s
n o t a c c e p t
2
t h i s
i n s t r u c t i o n ?
If
so p l e a s e
r a i s e
your hand
No
21 I hands a r e r a i s e d
22
T h i r d t h e
d e fe n d a n t
i s n o t r e q u i r e d
23 I to p ro v e h e r i n n o cen ce n o r
i s
she r e q u i r e d to p r e s e n t
24
any e v i d e n c e on
h e r
b e h a l f .
I s t h e r e
a nyone
h e r e who
3
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
32/222
2
3
4
5
6
does
not u n d e r s t a n d t h i s
i n s t r u c t i o n .
I f
so , p le a se
r a i s e
your hand
.
No hands
a r e r a i s e d .
I s t h e r e anyone
he re who
do e s n o t
a c c e p t o r w i l l not f o l l o w t h i s
i n s t r u c
t i o n
?
I f so
,
p l e a s e
r a i s e your hand .
No hands a r e r a i s e d .
Fo u r t h
,
if
t h e de f
e n d a n t
ch o o se s n o t
7 to
t stify
, t h e fa c t t h a t sh e
ch o o s es
no t to
t stify
8 may
n o t be h e l d a g a i n s t h e r
in
a r r i v i n g a t
your
9
1 0
v e r d i c t
.
I s
t h e r e
anyone
he re who
doe s
u n d e r s t a n d
t h i s i n s t r u c t i o n ?
I f
so ,
p l e a s e
r a i s e
your hands .
11 No hands a r e
r a i s e d .
12 I s
t h e r e
anyone
he re who
d oe s n o t
1 3 o r - - i s
t h e r e
anyone
h e re who
does n o t a cc ep t o r
14
1 5
16
17
w i l l n o t
f o l l o w
t h i s i n s t r u c t i o n ?
I f
so
, p le as e
r a i s e you
r
hand .
And
no
hands
a r e
r a i s e d .
I do b e l i e v e t h e p o l i c e o f f i c e r s may
t stify in
t h i s
m a t t e r
.
Under
t h e
law
t h e
t e s t im
o
ny
18
o f a
p o l i c e o f f i c e r i s not
to be t r e a t e d
any
19
d i f f e r e n t l y
t h a n any
o t h e r w i t n e s s e s t e s t imo n y .
2
That i s , a p o l i c e o f f i c e r s t e s t im ony
2 1
i s
e n t i t l e d to
no g re a
t
e r o r
l e s s e r
w ei g h t
t h a n an y
22
o t h e r p e r s o n s t e s t i m o n y s i mp l y b ecau s e o f t h a t
23 p e r s o n s
s t a t u s as a
p o l i c e o f f i c e r .
2 4
I s
t h e r e anyone e l s e
- -
i s t h e r
e
31
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
33/222
1 anyone h e re r a t h e r
who
w i l l
n o t
fo l l o w
t h i s
i n s t r u c t i o n ?
I f so , p l ea s e r a i s e your
hands
.
o
3
hands a r e r a i se
d .
4 You , l a d i e s and g en t l emen t h a t i s
to
5 say t h o s e o f you who
a r e
s e l e c t e d
as
j u r o r s
in t h i s
6
case
a r e t h e
j u d g e s
o f t h e
f a c t s
o f t h e c a se .
You
7 and o n l y
you
w i l l d e t e rm i n e
which
if any
o f
t h e
8
w i t n e s s e s to
be b e l i e v e and
t h e
w ei g h t to
be
g i v en
to
9
t h e i r
t e s t imo n y
.
10
t
s my job to
d e t e rm i n e
t h e law in
11 t h i s c a s e and what e v i d e n c e
you
may h e re and
12
13
c
on
s i d e r .
t w i l l
be
your
d u t y
to fo l l o w t h e law as
g i v e
it to you
.
A f t e r you have h e a rd all
t h e
14 e
v i
dence ,
t h e a rg u men t s o f
t h e a t t o r n e y s and t h o s e
15
i n s t r u c t i o n s on
t h e
law
,
you w i l l
t h e n
retire
t o t h e
16 j u r y to d e l i b e r a t e upon your v e r d i c t s .
17
I f
you a r e co n v i n ced f rom
all
t h e
18 e v i d e n c e
i n t h e
case
t h a t t h e s t a t e
has
p r oven
19
.
Melongo g u i l t y
beyond a
r e a s o n a b l e d o u b t it
w i l l
20 be your d u t y t o f i n d
he r
g u i l
t y .
21 I f
you a r e n o t co n v i n ced t h a t t h e
22 s t a t e
has p ro v ed . Melongo g u i l t y beyond a
23
r e a s o n a b l e d o u b t
,
it
wi
ll be your
d u t y
to f i n d
24
Ms Melongo n o t g u i l t y
.
32
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
34/222
2
3
your
own .
Whatever
v e r d i c t
you
reach , it w i l l be
And you
w i l l not have
to e x p l a i n
o r
ju stify it
to
anyone .
I t i s e s s e n t i a l - - and I
w i l l
4 r e p e a t t h i s t h r oughout
t he
tri l not j u s t
t oday , bu t
5 t h r o u g h o u t
t h e
p e r i o d
o f
t im e
when
we h e a r e v i d e n c e
6
in t h i s
case
t h a t you a r e n o t to a r r i v e
a t
any
7 d e c i s i o n s
o r c o n c l u s i o n s o f
any kind
u n t i l you
have
8
he
a rd
ll t h e e v i d e n c e , t h e a rg u men t s o f t h e
9
a t t o r n e y
s , my
i n s t r u c t i o n s on
t h e
law
,
and
you
ve
10
begun
your
d e l i b e r a t i o n s i n t h e j u r y
room.
11
Tha t
i n c l u d e s n o t
d i s c u s s i n g
t h e c a s e
12
u n t i l you
b e g i n
your
d e l i b e r a t i o n s
in
th e
j u r y
room
13
wi th
f r i e n d s ,
f a m i l y
members s t r a n g e r s , ev en
14 y o u r s e l f u n t i l you have
hea rd ll
t h e
e v i d e n c e
and my
15
i n s t r u c t i o n s on
t h e
law
and
t h e
a t to r n e y s
a r
guments
16
and begun your d e l i b e r a t i o n s .
17 I d o n t
know
w h e t h e r t h e r e s
been
any
18
p u b l i c i t y in
co n n ec t i o n w i t h t h i s c a s e o r
w i l l
be .
19
Whethe r t h e r e i s
o r
i s not
i s a b s o l u t e l y no moment to
20
me w h a t s o e v e r .
21
Whether t h e r e i s
however
, you
a r e
n o t
22
to
r e a d o r
view
o r listen
to
an y t h i n g t h a t may be
23
c o n n e c t e d wi th
t h i s
c a s e i n c l u d
in
g books , mag az i n es ,
24
newspape
r
rticles
, o r
t e l e
v
i s i o n
o r
news re p o r t s
.
33
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
35/222
1
Whether
t h e r e
s
p u b l i c i t y
o r
n o t you
2
a r e n o t to
go
t o t h e sc
e
ne o f any
o ccu r r en ce
which
3
you
h e a r abou t
any
e v i d e n c e n o r
a r e you to
co n d u c t
4 any e x p e r i m e n t s on your own
5
You a r e not to
co n d u c t
any o f your own
6 r e s e a r c h o r r e a d m a t e r i a l s on
your
own which you may
7 b e l i e v e
mig h t t o u ch
upon
t h e
case ;
in o t h e r
words ,
8 f o l k s , if you h e a r
e v i d e n c e
o r t e rm i n o l o g y t h a t
9
p u r p o r t e d l y
r e l a t e s
to
t he
i s s u e s
in
t h i s
c a s e
you
10
a r e n o t to go home and check t h e i n t e r n e t ,
read
any
11 books o r
m a t e r i a l s
o r
c o n s u l t
wi th
any o t h e r p e r s o n s
12 p e r s o n s you know o r
peop le
you
don
t ab o u t i s s u es
13
r a i s e d
by t h e test i mony
o r
abou t t h e law which you
14 b e l
i e
ve mig h t ap p l y to th
e c a s e .
15
The
law
t h a t
a p p l i e s
t o t h e case
i s
16
t
he
law t h a t I
w i l l
g i v e you as we go a l o n g and in my
17
i n s t r u c t i o n
a t t h e end o f t h e case .
18 You must
r e l y
on t h e
ev iden c e
t h a t you
19
s ee h e re
in t h i s
cour t room . The
i n s t r u c t i o n
on t h e
20 law t h a t I w i l l g i v e you
in
open c o u r t .
21
22
I want
to men t io n so meth in g in
p a r t i c u l a r ab o u t t h e i n t e r n e t
. The
i n t e r n e t i s
a
23 t remendou s boon to a community , co u n t r y - - t r emen d o u s
24
boon to ivil i z a t i o n in o u r w o r ld .
Changed
o u r
34
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
36/222
l i v e s , and c ha nge d
many o f
t h e l i v e s in
m e a s u r a b l e
2 ways .
3 I m
n o t
all t h a t
t e c h n o l o g i c a l l y up on
4
t h i n g s .
But
I m f a m i l i a r
enough to know
t h a t
5 s om e t im e s
when
j u r o r s a r e s e l e c t e d f o r
c a s e s ,
t h e y
6
t h i n k w e l l ,
I
go on
t h e
i n t e r n e t
to
f i n d s o m e t h i n g
7 o u t .
8
Or
I ll f i n d
s o m e t h i n g o u t
t h a t
on
9
t h a t
q u e s t
o r
Goog le
maps
a b o u t
this
o r
I ll
go
to
10 this r e s t a u r a n t to f i n d o u t
what t h e
l aw is o r
I ll
11 go a Goog le this
p e r s o n s
name
o r
t h a t p e r s o n s name
12 You
can t
do
it.
13
And t h e r e a s o n you can t do
it
is
14 b e c a u s e
t h e
i n t e r n e t is
l ik e t h a t
b r o t h e r - i n - l a w
t h a t
15
some o f us
h av e .
G r e a t guy .
Y o u r e
g l a d
t h a t h e s
16 in your
f a m i l y .
17
18
19
20
And y o u r e
g l a d t h a t
you
re in
h i s
f a m i l y .
H e s
t h a t w o n d e r f u l .
You
l o v e
s p e n d i n g
t i m e
w i t h
h im.
But e v e r y
once
i n a
w h i l e ,
he ha s a
mass
o f
m i s s i n f o r m a t i o n .
He is a s
wrong
a s wrong
c a n be
21 on some
i s s u e s .
22
And
that s
t h e d e a l
w i t h
t h e
i n t e r n e t .
23 If
you
go somewhere t h i n k i n g
w e l l , I ll f i n d o u t what
24
t h e
l aw a b o u t c om pu t e r c r i m e s is, you
can go on .
And
35
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
37/222
1 yo u can all
o f
a s udde n be
r e a d i n g
so meth in g ab o u t
2 compu te r
c r ime i n t h e state o f
New York ,
t h e s t a t e o f
3
C al if
o r n i a ,
t h e
state
o f Wyoming
4
Now , I can g u a r a n t e e you w h a t e v e r t h e
5 law is in
Wyoming
o r New York o r C a l i f o r n ia , it s
6 d i f f e r e n t t h a n t h e
l aw
i n Illino i
s .
7 You
can
go and t r y t o f i n d o
u t
8
so meth in g
on
t h e i n t e r n e t
a b o u t t h i s
p e r s o n o r t h a t
9
p e r
s
on
o r
a b o u t
t h i s
p l a c e
o r
t h a t
p l a c e
,
and
you
10
ca n t gu a r a n t e e t h a t you
re c o r r e c t .
11
And
t h e
r e a s o n
you
can t
do it b ecau s e
12 f o r s e v e r a l h u n d red
y e a r s now
, we ha ve be e n
s e e k i n g
13
14
o r e n d e a v o r i n g to de
c id e t h e s e
ca
s e s .
Doing
it in an
op en p u b l i c a r e n a .
Under t h e b r i g h t
l i g h t s
o f
15 ev e ry
o
n e s
in v
o lv
eme n t
o f
t h e p u b l i c
s
p r e s e n c e if
1 6 t h
ey wi sh to
s e e what h ap p en s .
17 In t h e p r e s e n c e o f
12
s t r a n g e r s o r
12
18
p e r s o n s
f rom o u r communi ty t o listen to t h e e v i d e n c e
19
th
a t
g e t s
a dduc e d in op
en c o u r t
.
And g e t s
b e l i eved
20 o r n o t
b e l i e v e d as
t h e y may deem fit .
21
They a p p l y t h e l aw
t h a t
a
ju d
g e
g i v e s
22
3
t h
em
It
i s t h e l aw
t h a t w i l l a p p l y in
thi s c a s e .
An d you go ba c k and you
d e c i d e
t h i s way
:
I f you
24
d e c i d e it
b a s e d on
t h i n g s t h a t you
d o n t
h e a r
a b o u t
36
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
38/222
1 ab o u t
in
open c o u r t , you r e
d e c i d i n g
on t h i n g s
t h a t
2 a t t o r n e y s don t have t h e
o p p o r t u n i t y to
test its
3 c o r r e c t n e s s , its t r u t h f u l n e s s o r its accu r acy .
4
5
I f you t h i n k it s t r u e it s r e a l l y
t r e m e n d o u s l y u n f a i r .
So much
so
p e rh a p s
t h a t
if
6
you
r e s e l e c t e d
as
a j u r o r in t h i s
cas e ,
I m not
7
a s k i n
g
you
n o t
to
go on t h e i n t e r n
e t in
co n n ec t i o n
8 w i t h t h i s case , I m o r d e r i n g you n o t
to
look on t h e
9
i n t e r n e t
i n co n n ec t i o n
w i t h
t h i s
case
u n t i l
such
t ime
1 as t h e
case i s o v e r .
11
12
And you
ve
been
d i s c h a r g e d
f rom
your
r e s p o n s i b i l ity
in t h i s
case .
When I say t h a t you
13 can t u se t h e i n t e r n e t if you
re
a
j u r o r
i n t h e
case?
14 I m n o t s a y i n g t h a t a t all.
Use t h e i n t e r n e t in
15
w h a t ev e r manner you deem
to
wi th
r e g a r d to
your
16
e - m a i l s ,
your
co mmu n ica t io n s w i t h f a m i l y and f r i e n d s ,
17 s u r f
t h e n e t ab o u t t h i s
s u b j e c t o r
t h a t
s u b j e c t
18 w h a t ev e r s t r i k e s
your
f an cy
as
you s u r f
t h e
n e t
19 som e t i m e s
.
2
Sometimes when you s u r f t h e
n e t ,
you
21
don
t
even know
what
s
going
to s t r i k e your f an cy ,
22
r i g h t ?
Why we c a l l it s u r f i n g , I s u p p o s e .
You re
23 not
to
l o o k a t it f o r an y th in g
in
co n n ec t i o n
wi th
24 t h i s c a s e u n t i l y o u r e d i s c h a r g e d f rom your
37
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
39/222
1 r e s p o n s i b i l ities
2 Now , a v i o l a t i o n o f t h i s
o r d e r
c o u l d
3
s u b j e c t you to c on t e m p t o f Co u r t
b ecau s e
you
ll be
4
v i o l a t i n g a
c o u r t
o r d e r .
Now , I m n o t s a y i n g all
5
t h i s
b e c a u s e I
e x p e c t
any o f you to do you s h o u l d n t
6 do , q u i t e t h e c o n t r a r y .
7
But
you
can imag in e
I m
g o in g
on in
8
t h i s m a t t e r
b e c a u s e
p e r h a p s
it s
ha ppe ne d in
t h e
9 p a s t
.
And t h e
whole
r a i l r o a d
g e t s
sc rew ed
up
b ecau s e
1 a r e d o i n g
t h i n g s t h a t t h e y s h o u l d n t be
d o i n g .
11
T h a t s
why
I m
o r d e r i n g
you
is
you re
12 s e l e c t e d as a j u r o r in t h i s
c a s e
n o t to
l o o k a t
13
a n y t h i n g
on t h e i n t e r n e t
o r
any o t h e r p l a c e o r t a l k
14
to
any
o t h e r p e r s o n s
a b o u t
t h i s u n t i l you re
15 d i s c h a r g e d
f rom
your
r e s p o n s i b i l i t i e s .
16
You
a r e n o t to
c o n c e r n
y o u r s e l f
w i t h
17
p o s s i b l e p u n i sh men t o r s e n t e nc e f o r t h e o f f e n s e
18 c h a r g e d d u r i n g
your
d e l i b e r a t i o n s .
I t w i l l be t h e
19 f u n c t i o n o f t h e trial j u d g e
to
d e t e rm i n e
t h e s e n t e n c e
2 s h o u l d t h e r e be a v e r d i c t o f g u i l t y .
21
At t h i s
t im
e , f o l k s , I m g o in g a s k you
22 some
q u e s t i o n s
ab o u t
y o u r s e l v e s
t h a t r e l a t e
to your
23
q u a l i f i c a t i o n s to s e r v e as j u r o r s
.
When I m
done
,
24 t h e a t t o r n
e ys
w i l l ha ve t h e o p p o r t u n i t y to a s k
38
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
40/222
1 q u e s t i o n as
to m a t t e r s
I
have
n o t
i n q u i r e d a b o u t .
2 I don t want
any o f you
to
f e e l t h a t
3 w e r e t r y i n g
to
e m b a r r a s s you
o r
p u t you on t h e s p o t
4
o r p ry i n t o
your p e r s o n a l
affairs
.
T h i s i s m e r e l y
5
o u r way o f
s e e k i n g
to
l e a r n s o m e t h i n g a b o u t
you,
so
6 t h a t t h e
p a r t i e s
can make
i n f o r m e d d e c i s i o n s
d u r i n g
7 t h e j u r y
s e l e c t i o n
p r o c e s s .
9
10
11
12
But b e f o r e I b e g i n t h a t
,
there s one
last
t h i n g
I
want
to say .
e
l i v e
in
what
I
c o n s i d e r
th e f i n e s t n a t i o n on e a r t h . A l l s o r t s o f r e a s o n s
f o r
t h a t
.
I m n o t g o in g to list any
o f
them
now
.
They r e l a t e to
many o f t h e r i g h t s t h a t
13 we e n j o y no s i mp l y b ecau s e we re c i t i z e n s o r
n o t
14
bec a u s e we re c i t i z e n s
b u t s i mp l y b ecau s e
we
happen
15 to
b e .
A
few
o f t h o s e
r i g h t s
i n c l u d e
f reedom
o f
16 sp eech
,
f reedom
o f
p r e s s
,
r i g h t to an open and p u b l i c
17 trial
.
18 e can a rg u e e n d l e s s l y
I
su p p o se
as
19 which one o f t h o s e r i g h t s a r e
more
i m p o r t a n t t h a n
20
o t h e r
,
b u t we
re
n o t g o in g to do t h a t .
T h ere
i s
one
21 r i g h t t h o u g h whic h
I c a l l
t h e g r e a t r i g h t .
22 W i t hou t
which all
t h o s e o t h e r r i g h t s
23
a r e
r e n d e r e d
u n e n f o r c e a b l e
,
and t h e r e b y m e a n i n g l e s s .
24 And t h a t s th e
r i g h t
to a j u r y
trial.
Any one o f us
39
-
7/21/2019 Annabel Melongo Computer Tampering Trial Transcript
41/222
1 in a d i s p u t e w i t h o u r
n e i g h b o r
o r some billion d o l l a r
2 c o r p o r a t i o n o r ou r
government
can insist
upon
a
j u r y
3 drawn o f
12
c i t i z e n s f rom o u r communi ty
who
would
sit
4 in a
j u r y box in an
open and
p u b l i c c o u r t r o o m
, listen
5 to t h e
e v i d e n c e
p r e s e n t e d by t h e a t t o r n e y s , a p p l y t h e
6 law i n s t r u c t e d by a j u d g e .
7
They would
ha ve
to t h e r e a f t e r
d e c i d e
8 t h e
c a s e .
And
however t h e y d e c i d e d
t h e ca s e
however
9
much
we
o r
o u r
n e i g h b o r o r
t h a t
c o r p o r a t i o n
o r
o u r
1
gove r nm e n t l i k e d
it ,
it has to be a c c e p t e d .
11
I f
you
t h i n k
t h a t t h ro u g h that s
12 p r e t t y heavy stuff and a r i g h t n o t e n j o y e d by many o n
13 t h e
f a c e
o f t h i s
e a r t h .
14
Now , t h e r e a s o n I m g o in g in t h i s
15 little
min i
p h y s i c s l e s s o n
- -
and I
don
t
d o u b t
t h a t
16
most
o f you know all t h i s any way -- t h e r e a s o n I go
17 in t h i s r e g a r d
i s
b ecau s e
e v e r y o n e
once in w h i l e
18 and I
hope
n o t t o d ay - - I
s u s p e c t
t h a t
somet imes
19
p e o p l e make up
r e a s o n s
to g e t
o u t
o f j u r y s e r v i c e .
2
It d be a
m i s t a k e
f o r a
number
o f
21