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Updated: February 12, 2012 French Creek V alley H ome  Back to Blacksmithing Contact Us I want to make some rail anvils to show that you don't need a huge investment to get started in blacksmithing. Not much has been writte n about rail road rail anvils, but man y folks have made them. Some think they are okay and others don't think much of them at all. In this article , I am taking the positive approach about anvils m ade from sections of railroad rail, so if you don't want to hear positive things about them or ideas on how to make them, don't read any farther. Here are some various shapes of railroad rail anvils that I have found:  Anvils Made From Sections of Railroad Rail ht tp://spaco.org/Blacksmit hing/Anvils/RailAnvils.ht m 1 of 5 1/14/2013 9:23 PM

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I want to make some rail anvils to show that you don't need a huge investment to get started inblacksmithing.

Not much has been written about railroad rail anvils, but many folks have made them. Some think theyare okay and others don't think much of them at all. In this article, I am taking the positive approachabout anvils made from sections of railroad rail, so if you don't want to hear positive things about themor ideas on how to make them, don't read any farther.

Here are some various shapes of railroad rail anvils that I have found:

 

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About Railroad Rails and RR Anvil Design

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I did some looking around on the web for design ideas, but I didn't find very much information.I do know that railroad rail is sized by the weight in pounds per yard of length.Dave, a recent visitor to this page found these Great Tables of Railroad Rail Specs.

A Guild of Metalsmiths member who worked on the railroad for 40-some years tells me that the biggestrail in America is (I think he said) 141#/yard. He said that rail goes up to 150# plus/yard in Europe.

Eau Claire, Wisconsin blacksmith Monte Bygd told me that he used to make them and sell them for

$35. His were about a foot long, with no hardy or pritchel hole. I think it would weigh about 15 or 18pounds. It looks to be made from about 70# rail. He flame cuts the horn out and grinds it to shape.

Another Guild member runs a beginning blacksmith tool making project course in MinneapolisMinnesota. As part of the course, each student receives a rail anvil, along with other tooling that theymake, as part of the project. This anvil is about a foot long. It looks to be made from about 110# rail.They have a machine shop at the institution where the face is milled flat to some degree and that's it. Nohorn at all. No hardy hole or pritchel. You can still see the wear on the inside of the rail's ball and theburr on the outside. They sell it for $40 as part of the class. I think this anvil might weigh 25#.

My own Railroad Rail Plans and Activities

I have been saving up pieces of rail for some years for this purpose. Recently, I cut up a 12 ft length of 74# rail into 6 ea. 20" sections.I have other pieces of railroad rail laying around that are about the same size rail and a few largerpieces. None of the rail that I have is over about 120#/yard size. I wish I could get some of that 141# rail.

The best inputs I have so far for rail anvil designs are from Alexander G. Weyger's "The ModernBlacksmith" book (copyright 1974) and the Bernhard Heer/David Harries book "Basic Blacksmithing"(copyright 1993).A year or two ago, I flame cut out one anvil to the Heer/Harries design and one to the Weyger's design.The Heer anvil is 74#/yard rail X 20" and the Weygers design is 108#/yard rail X 21".

The Weyger's Design, Flame Cut to Rough Shape. It weighs 48 pounds at this point.

So far, I have been working mostly on the Heer design, and here are three pictures of it as it progresses:

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The shape has been flame cut, the face has been milled and the hardy hole has been drilled and filed. Ihad no trouble milling the face. Drilling the holes for the hardy hole was okay until I reached theexiting end of the hole. The cast part of the rail that had not been machined was very hard and it dulleda couple of drill bits.

Here the Pritchel hole has been drilled. Same problem with tough drilling as the bit exited the hole, but

I did get the job done.

If you look carefully, you can see that I have spent some time grinding the horn to rough shape. Ihaven't yet decided whether to fill in the underside of the horn with weld or not. It weighs 29 pounds atthis point. I feel that this anvil is at the lowest end of the weight spectrum for doing any usefulblacksmithing.

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Some Metalurgical Specs on Railroad Rail:

I got this from wikipedia rail profile:"The American Railway Engineering Association (AREA) and the American Society for TestingMaterials (ASTM) specified carbon, manganese, silicon and phosphorus content for steel rails. Tensilestrength increases with carbon content, while ductility decreases. AREA and ASTM specified 0.55 to0.77 percent carbon in 70-to-90-pound-per-yard (35 to 45 kg/m) rail, 0.67 to 0.80 percent in rail weightsfrom 90 to 120 pounds per yard (45 to 60 kg/m), and 0.69 to 0.82 percent for heavier rails. Manganese

increases strength and resistance to abrasion. AREA and ASTM specified 0.6 to 0.9 percent manganesein 70 to 90 pound rail and 0.7 to 1 percent in heavier rails. Silicon improves steel by increasing density.AREA and ASTM specified 0.1 to 0.23 percent silicon. Phosphorus and sulfur are impurities causingbrittle rail with reduced impact-resistance. AREA and ASTM specified maximum phosphorusconcentration of 0.04 percent."

Is there any disagreement with that?

Miscellaneous Stuff about Railroad Rail

Interesting to me:

I got 6 cuts with one Doall Imperial 100 band saw blade in used 88# (or so) rail before it started to godull. I'd guess that means that those rails are NOT fully hardened when they leave the mfr and theydon't work harden to the point where they are fully hard by the time they are removed from service.

Why do I have that much rail laying around?It's the left over from my son's 39 foot high Tyranosaurus Rex. He used 2 18 foot lengths to reinforce thelegs.

That's all for now. I will add to this page as I find time to work on these railroad rail anvils some more.

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