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Should we encourage 'play" in ourclassroom to engage learning?
20:00:12 @ukedchatIt's 8pm. Time for #ukedchat with @Rlj1981: 'Should weencourage 'play" in our classroom to engage learning?'
20:00:39 @rlj1981Play.Is this meaningful engagement or Joyful learning?#UKedchat pic.twitter.com/yhrhLg4fTx
20:01:08 @NikkiGilbey @rlj1981 evening evening! Easy to answer, YES we shouldencourage play in learning #UKedchat
20:01:54 @ravivian
@rlj1981 I think we should definitely encourage play, play ishow we naturally learn from babies upwards. The question ishow to #UKedchat
20:01:55 @rlj1981
@NikkiGilbey: @rlj1981 evening evening! Easy to answer,YES we should encourage play in learning #UKedchat >>could you explain why?
20:02:08 @NikkiGilbey@rlj1981: Play.Is this meaningful engagement or Joyful
learning? #UKedchat pic.twitter.com/rniWWzrZuT both!20:02:17 @ukedchat
Tchat is a great way to follow and interact with #ukedchat Justsign in and join the fun http://www.tchat.io/rooms/ukedchat
20:03:09 @KerryPulleyn@rlj1981 It's certainly the most original and naturally occurringform! #UKedchat
20:03:14 @RachelOrr@ukedchat #UKedchat P = promote L = learning A = about Y= yourself
20:03:16 @Jivespin
@ukedchat Yes Griffith and Burns' book, Engaging Learnersis excellent for encouraging play in lessons to engage
students #UKedchat
20:03:32 @KDWScience
Totally as it is memorableRT @rlj1981: Play.Is this meaningfulengagement or Joyful learning? #UKedchatpic.twitter.com/NFcmu3YrEW
20:03:40 @RachelOrr@ukedchat #UKedchat What is play? Hands on, experientiallearning. Can be self initiated, guided or directed.
20:03:43 @ICTmagic
@NikkiGilbey Does that include all levels of learning. Doesthat include Junior Doctors still experimenting to learn?@rlj1981 #ukedchat
20:03:45 @MissHorsfallI notice that when my kids (Y3) play Maths games, they seemto forget they're doing maths at all... #ukedchat
20:03:54 @aknill#UKedchat play is a word which is lost above ks2 often- butwhy? Looking to bring some fun back into ks3 this term
20:04:10 @littlestobbsy#UKedchat absolutely, the more enjoyment students have themore chance they will have for remembering.
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20:04:40 @DanRavenEllison
I think it's important to remember that #play and
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experimenting are connected - we would not question ifexperiments are important #ukedchat
20:04:53 @RosalieTalbot
Going to get every child to write a writing pledge at beg ofyear and evaluate termly #ukedchat
pic.twitter.com/8uOqSkStHs20:05 @Xris32
#ukedchat It should be used more selectively as the studentsget older. Important part of learning, but not sole method
20:05:04@AcademicsUK
For you music #teachers: #onthisday in 1966 @TheBeatlesplayed their last ever concert in front of paying fans #ukedchat
20:05:09 @rlj1981 @KDWScience how is this linked to learning? #UKedchat
20:05:10 @NikkiGilbey
a sense of play creates a safe learning environment,key tolearning taking place.Maths can be scary for many,playmakes it less so #UKedchat
20:05:12 @RachelOrr @ukedchat #UKedchat Do we always associate play withEYFS rather than across the whole learning methodology?
20:05:20 @Teachric@MissHorsfall they also forget they are learning, probablybecause they are not #ukedchat
20:05:31 @oldandrewuk @ukedchat @rlj1981 No. #ukedchat
20:05:33 @Jivespin
Also presenting a plenary or a starter as a 'game' encouragesparticipation. Isn't learning supposed to be [mostly] enjoyable?#ukedchat
20:05:34 @rlj1981@littlestobbsy does this equal meaningful learning?
#UKedchat20:05:42 @aknill
@DanRavenEllison #UKedchat play through Dan's projectleads like Mission Explore and outdoor learning
20:06:05 @RosalieTalbot
@ukedchat #ukedchat play is the glue that makes thelearning stick as long as it's meaningfulpic.twitter.com/RKiYaRRmy4
20:06:06 @ICT_MrP
Some of the best work the children produced last year camefrom using some of their best iPad games -http://mrparkinsonict.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/using-popular-ipad-games-as-stimulus-in.html #UKedchat
20:06:08 @RachelOrr@oldandrewuk: @ukedchat @rlj1981 No. #ukedchat Whyever not?
20:06:13 @rlj1981 @Xris32 can play be used with older students? #UKedchat
20:06:15 @tstarkey1212#ukedchat Isn't there a danger that what is remembered is theplay and not the learning?
20:06:33 @englishlulu#ukedchat some of my most playful lessons have been withKS5
20:06:38 @MissHorsfall
@Teachric Maybe they're not learning anything new, butgames are great way to practice e.g. times tables 'by stealth'#ukedchat
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20:06:39 @RachelOrr
@ukedchat #UKedchat Play is an enjoyable and pleasurableactivity. Play sometimes includes frustrations, challenges andfears.
20:06:47 @KerryPulleyn
@RachelOrr @ukedchat I think we play sometimes in
secondary, but less regularly; it's harder sometimes to find thelearning focus #UKedchat
20:06:50 @RachelOrr@ukedchat #UKedchat Play = pleasurable, symbolic,voluntary, active, process oriented and self motivating.
20:06:55 @NikkiGilbey
@ICTmagic @rlj1981 yep,my friend is one & in their selfdirected study they use games&play to support learning ofhard concepts #ukedchat
20:07:04@DanRavenEllison
A Playworker's Taxonomy of #Play Types, by Bob Hughes:http://hackneyplay.org/play/playtypes.htm on @playPATH
is very useful for this #UKedchat20:07:09
@ChrisChivers2
#ukedchat Play is a word that can be easily devalued andmocked. It can, however, describe a multitude of activities.
20:07:13@ICTEvangelist
MT "@Xris32: #ukedchat It shd be used more selectively asthe sts get older. Important part of lrng, but not sole method"#toolkit4learning
20:07:35 @rlj1981@oldandrewuk: @ukedchat @rlj1981 No. #ukedchat > care toexplain yourself?
20:07:41 @ICTmagic
@Teachric I'm interested to know where you stand on theidea of gamification. Has a place in education? @MissHorsfall#ukedchat
20:07:45 @mrlockyer @oldandrewuk @ukedchat @rlj1981 Fence-sitter. #UKedchat
20:07:58 @debrichmond
@Sarah__wright1 @rlj1981 some of the most famousscientists were 'imaginative' in developing their now widelyaccepted theories. #ukedchat
20:08:03 @Jivespin
Learning grids - A Question of Sport in your lessonhttp://wp.me/p3pzMr-2 Strategy from Griffith and Burns toencourage play #ukedchat
20:08:13 @RachelOrr
@KerryPulleyn @ukedchat #UKedchat Isn't 'play' adevelopment for practical investigative, explorative,experiential learning?
20:08:13 @ravivian#ukedchat if we believe in play in the classroom how do makeit intrinsic rather than pay lip-service?
20:08:24 @ChocoTzar Children use play to explore new things safely. #UKedchat
20:08:43 @RachelOrr@ukedchat #UKedchat Play develops the fundamental skillsof literacy, numeracy and oral communication.
20:08:45@Andyphilipday
@tstarkey1212 #ukedchat Needs a skilful teacher to draw thelearning out of play to be sure.
20:08:45 @MsKateRyan Play doesn't have to be overtly 'educational'. A few years
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back, my Y11s choreographed a dance to our theme song.Great bonding #ukedchat
20:08:47 @rlj1981@tstarkey1212 wouldn't a good teacher focus on the learningnot the process? But the process can vary? #UKedchat
20:08:55@Sarah__wright1
#ukedchat play can include challenge, it can provide childrenwith a 'safety net' where they feel more comfortableparticipating.
20:09:03@ChrisChivers2
#ukedchat Play can describe a lower level, familiarisationactivity; exploratory, as a means of rapid engagement.
20:09:10 @ICTmagic@NikkiGilbey Can the same be applied to the practical side inthe day to day work on a ward? @rlj1981 #ukedchat
20:09:14 @englishlulu
#UKedchat acting out the Charge of the Light Brigade in theplayground with paper as cannon balls, play to experience
and understand20:09:26 @mrlockyer
@tstarkey1212 That begs the question, should all learning beovert/explicit? #ukedchat
20:09:29 @JivespinANother plenary that encourages play - Fancy a fight? - alesson plenary http://wp.me/p3pzMr-4a #ukedchat
20:09:30 @dukkhaboyit is still the holidays so i am playing and not taking part in#UKedchat
20:09:43 @KDWScience
@tstarkey1212 #UKedchat I made DNA out of sweets,kidsthought it was play but link the colour coding to base pairings
when asked to explain
20:09:49 @KerryPulleyn
@tstarkey1212 I guess that can happen if you don't link ittightly - I find that a challenge, although I'd like to makelearning #UKedchat
20:09:54 @Susan_WildeThere are more ways of having fun than "playing". Teacherwith gsoh can make it so #UKedchat
20:09:56 @ukedchatTonight's #ukedchat topic with @Rlj1981: 'Should weencourage 'play" in our classroom to engage learning?'
20:10:02 @MissKMcDHow do you use play effectively? Do any tweachers have anystrategies that have worked well? #UKedchat
20:10:03 @KerryPulleyn @tstarkey1212 playful #UKedchat
20:10:04 @alifesobeautifl
Learning needs to fun, so if learning is fun that encouragesplay. Group learning experiences for children/ interact withothers #UKedchat
20:10:17 @aknill
#UKedchat bringing #legopedagogy to my lessons this yearfor some activities not whole focus but a different way todemonstrate ideas.
20:10:22 @miss_tiggrPlay is important if it means being creative and interested andImaginative. 1/2 #ukedchat
20:10:36 @KerryPulleyn @englishlulu Can we have some examples? #UKedchat
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20:10:38 @RachelOrr @ukedchat #UKedchat ALL work and LOTS of PLAY!!!!!!
20:10:44 @NikkiGilbey
@ICTmagic @rlj1981 no, which suggests that there is a timeand place...need to be appropriate. In the classroom I believeit is #UKedchat
20:10:46@ChrisChivers2
#ukedchat Working with infants, possible to see pure play, butalso discovery play, with the support of an adult- Vygotsky inaction.
20:11:05 @rlj1981 @MsKateRyan isn't bonding part of learning? #ukedchat
20:11:07 @RachelOrr
@ukedchat #UKedchat Play provides rich, varied contexts fordeveloping skills as observing, organising, recording,interpreting, predicting
20:11:13 @RosalieTalbot
@ukedchat #ukedchat productive and important learning canand should disguised through 'play'
pic.twitter.com/6qD6zTEKT920:11:19 @chrismcd53 #ukedchat are role play and play the same thing?
20:11:25 @ChocoTzarWith a new computer game they will select hardest level first,happy to crash and die, because play is safe #UKedchat
20:11:42@headguruteacher
#ukedchat eg If students make motors and play around withthem to explore how they work, it is fun. But the aim is to learnabout motors.
20:11:54 @MissHorsfall
@ICTmagic @Teachric, Gamification is a new word to me!But the concept, I like. Good way to practice e.g. maths facts.
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20:12 @rlj1981
What is play? How does it change as children grow older anddoes it need to change? For later reading? http://www.child-encyclopedia.com/pages/PDF/Smith-PellegriniANGxp2.pdf #UKedchat
20:12:02 @JivespinGreat fun! Make your own card game - a review activityhttp://wp.me/p3pzMr-3p #ukedchat
20:12:20 @KDWScience@ChocoTzar #ukedchat. Surely doing experiments is playthat is how we develop and learn safely
20:12:23 @miss_tiggr
2/2 but as they get older they need to learn how to interestthemselves in things they think will be boring. Interest is achoice #ukedchat
20:12:26 @sidchip64So many definitions, but I like this one most... Apt? #ukedchatpic.twitter.com/84rqKo1Rno
20:12:33@DanRavenEllison
#play does not always = fun or silly. Play can be very deep,immersive and serious. It's massively undervalued in formaleducation #ukedchat
20:12:33@TeacherTweaks
#ukedchat I like to use different quiz shows as starter orplenary questions with ks3-5. They enjoy competing in teams!
20:12:37 @NikkiGilbey @Teachric Completely disagree! #ukedchat
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20:12:42@Andyphilipday
#ukedchat Like @chrischivers2 assertion that play is asking'what would happen if...?' Do this a lot in hypothesis-testing &forecasting
20:12:44 @KerryPulleyn
@RachelOrr @ukedchat I can see that is right - I think we
don't necessarily consider it as fully as primary colleagues,maybe #UKedchat
20:12:48 @englishlulu#UKedchat play can 'play' an important part in developingconfidence with literacy for lowest ability students
20:12:57 @JivespinAnother fun game - Two fat ladies! Bingo in your lesson!http://wp.me/p3pzMr-1i #ukedchat
20:12:59 @MsKateRyan
@rlj1981: @MsKateRyan isn't bonding part of learning?#ukedchat Most def'. You learn how to interact, trust and buildtogether.
20:13:04 @School_LN when you play you discover, when you discover you learn#UKedchat
20:13:14 @ICTmagic
@NikkiGilbey Interesting. So there is a limit to the situationthat play is effective. How do teacher know where to draw aline? #ukedchat
20:13:21 @csf0961
#ukedchat play can be hard work too. Isn't enjoyment andengagement implicit in the word play how is that inappropriateto learning?
20:13:22 @KopfarmPlay is an important way of developing creativity andinnovation #UKedchat
20:13:33@StephenConnor7
#ukedchat play requires a freedom that many teachers areafraid to allow.
20:13:34 @KerryPulleyn@RachelOrr @ukedchat sometimes, involving learners fully inthe process of learning is a playful experience #UKedchat
20:13:35 @ukedchat@ShonetteBason Great to have you along. Please use#ukedchat and not the @ account. Thank you
20:13:39@Sarah__wright1
@debrichmond @rlj1981 exactly! Play IS investigation,collaboration, initiative, it's a vital part of learning! #ukedchat
20:13:51 @RachelOrr
@KerryPulleyn @ukedchat #UKedchat Is play seen as bringsomething for 'toy day', when it is really all about hands onpractical learning.
20:13:57 @MissKMcD @TeacherTweaks do you have any examples? #ukedchat
20:13:58 @agwilliams9
@tstarkey1212 #Ukedchat I agree. There is always a dangerthat the mechanism is remembered not the point. Howeverlearning needs vitality?
20:14:05 @debrichmondStudents often learn without realising it if they think they are'just playing' #ukedchat
20:14:06 @KDWScience
@aknill #ukedchat scientists love Lego great for modellinghard concepts and kids get it through the playing
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20:14:16@StampScience
Ideas about how to use #qrcodes in schools #sgsblt#UKedchat #ict http://tinyurl.com/ol4uowy
20:14:18@DanRavenEllison
RT @School_LN: when you play you discover, when youdiscover you learn #UKedchat Starter Displays http://goo.gl/3s16aR#ukedchat #edchat #ntchat #math
20:15:10@ChrisChivers2
@Andyphilipday #ukedchat Playing with ideas, imagining,forecasting, derive from some kind of visualisation. Thanks forthe reminder Andy
20:15:11 @ICTmagic@Teachric Offering points/scores/incentives etc. Can be verymovitating. #ukedchat
20:15:21 @KerryPulleyn
@ChrisChivers2 That can be perceived to be at odds withwhat would be needed in an inspected lesson sometimes.#UKedchat
20:15:26 @tmeeky RT @DanRavenEllison: #play does not always = fun or silly. .
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#ukedchat>yes, schools stop kids playing by formalisinglearning too early
20:15:29@Sarah__wright1
@StephenConnor7 #ukedchat agreed, & if they did, they'dsee a difference! Initiative and independence can't happen
without some risk!20:15:36 @KerryPulleyn
@ChrisChivers2 or maybe I haven't got it worked out yet!#UKedchat
20:15:36 @aknill@Jivespin #ukedchat use key term bingo - fab attention linkedto recount to show knowledge to complete a win
20:15:37@DanRavenEllison
@sidchip64 100% - have you never played an (un)structured"game" that you took so seriously it hurt? #UKedchat
20:15:37 @ChocoTzar@KDWScience Isn't it how we learn too? I play with newthings all the time. #UKedchat
20:15:44 @RachelOrr @ukedchat #UKedchat Play is all about putting learning intomeaningful, purposeful contexts. All encompassing across thecurriculum.
20:15:46 @Teachric
@NikkiGilbey why? Can you teach written operations throughplay? Can you teach data handling through play? Of coursenot! #UKedchat
20:15:51 @RachelOrr
@ukedchat #UKedchat Play provides opportunities forexploration, investigation, problem solving and decision-making.
20:15:53 @rlj1981 @headguruteacher so should there be expectations linked toplay based learning? #UKedchat
20:16:03 @MissHorsfallI also think play can be useful for developing more generalskills - logic, co-operation etc. #ukedchat
20:16:06 @Jobaker9Play, enjoyment and engagement in an activity. Creativelearning #UKedchat
20:16:10 @tstarkey1212
@rlj1981 #ukedchat With fun things often the case thatreason for it has to be re-ionforced later. Time issues comeinto play.
20:16:12 @littlestobbsy
#ukedchat @rlj1981 it has 2 be 1 of a variety of strategies,well thought through relevant eg grt plenary or starterpic.twitter.com/lgwl4A338o
20:16:12 @ICTmagic
#SpannerInWorks What about the children who don't want toplay, or at least, don't want to play what you want them to?#ukedchat
20:16:15 @RachelOrr
@ukedchat #UKedchat Remember focus for tonight'sdiscussion is about play and NOT the second place topic ofFUN!
20:16:16 @csf0961 #UKedchat one persons play is anothers hard work20:16:18 @NikkiGilbey @Teachric I invite you to come to my maths lessons! Yours
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sound boring!! #ukedchat
20:16:19 @ChocoTzar
@ChrisChivers2 Give kids something hard and ask them tofigure it out: a puzzle, a piece of tech, an experiment, amurder...? #UKedchat
20:16:37 @MrChurchTweets Thinking about having an ICT/Programming display in myYear2 classroom - any great ideas? #ukedchat #nqt
20:16:43 @NikkiGilbey
@Teachric @csf0961 disagree.. Have some of highestFunctional Maths success rates in country and we do lots of'play'. #UKedchat
20:16:54@TeacherTweaks
#ukedchat I don't explicitly consider 'play' when designinglessons; more about task choice, clear criteria & dif options tomeet outcome.
20:16:54 @tmeeky
Adults, and dare I say it, teachers, should feel more
comfortable with play... and do more of it themselves#ukedchat
20:16:54 @RachelOrr
@ukedchat #UKedchat Play is all about getting children tothink, to question, to explore, to experiment, to make mistakesand have a go!
20:16:58@StephenConnor7
@MissHorsfall as long as you can be confident in your ownjustification for encouraging play then use it. It is important#ukedchat
20:16:59 @MissHorsfall
Partially agree with @Teachric in that play can't teachcomplex ideas eg how to draw a bar chart.But it's a great wayto practice! #ukedchat
20:17:02 @rlj1981
Children learn best when they are engaged in their learning,when it matters to them. http://tiny.cc/riok2w #UKedchat Isthis play?
20:17:07 @MsKateRyan@RachelOrr @ukedchat Good point. Sometimes playing isn'tfun at all (in my case, that's when I'm losing!) #UKedchat
20:17:07@BehaviourTeach
#ukedchat play is one of the most important things in learning.Context deepens learning.
20:17:08 @DanRavenEllison
@Teachric @NikkiGilbey YES u 100% CAN #teach writtenops + data handling through play! Have you never playedsardines or 123 in!? #UKedchat
20:17:11 @ChocoTzarOur children have to figure things out for themselves. Play ishow they do this. It's the key to independence. #UKedchat
20:17:13 @tstarkey1212@KDWScience #ukedchat But was that after reinforcement?Would they have made the jump themselves?
20:17:27 @ravivian
@ICTmagic @rlj1981 obvious answer is differentiation, buthow one differentiates play is another question entirely#ukedchat
20:17:28 @ICTmagic @Teachric Twas my undergraduate dissertation. Results
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were stark! Not always because games, but because ofmovitation levels #ukedchat
20:17:36@Sarah__wright1
@ICTmagic then that's a learning opportunity for them! They'lllearn to collaborate or work around things, great 'real life' skill
#ukedchat20:17:37 @tmeeky
RT @NikkiGilbey: @Teachric I invite you to come to mymaths lessons! Yours sound boring!! #ukedchat< snigger :)
20:17:40@BehaviourTeach
@RachelOrr @ukedchat I think sometimes people do but Ithink opportunities should be provided all the way throughprimary #ukedchat
20:17:50 @rlj1981@tmeeky should teacher model play- in the same way theywould other positive learner characteristics? #ukedchat
20:17:52 @rkieran#ukedchat I love seeing children taking play very seriously
(and learning all the time)
20:17:53 @Xris32
#UKedchat Do we think the tricky word is 'fun'? Play is fine,but students need to be wary of learning being fun. Sendswrong message
20:17:54 @KerryPulleyn
@headguruteacher @rlj1981 it can be tricky too if thestudents aren't by 'trustworthy'. Can result in poor output.#UKedchat
20:17:54@ChrisChivers2
@ChocoTzar #ukedchat Yes to all those. Speculation,alternative scenarios, empathy, explanation... involve a periodof sorting ideas
20:17:54 @RachelOrr @BehaviourTeach @ukedchat #UKedchat And beyond? I do!
20:17:55@DanRavenEllison
We are all always playing a MASSIVE game of hide&seekhiding from some things.. searching for others. We need tolearn to play it. #UKedchat
20:17:59@ICTEvangelist
@headguruteacher like games, the 'fun' video making activityshould have rules in order to ensure coverage? #UKEdChat
20:18:11 @ravivian
@ICTmagic @rlj1981 perhaps diff. stations with options thatare more/less academic/visual etc.? play doesnt mean samething to all #ukedchat
20:18:19 @aknill@ICTmagic #ukedchat #spanner work as observer andfeedback to group or class
20:18:21 @tmeeky
RT @Xris32: #UKedchat Do we think the tricky word is 'fun'?Play is fine, but students need to be wary of learning beingfun.>what!
20:18:22 @sidchip64 @DanRavenEllison Only rugby (union)! #UKedchat
20:18:27 @ICTmagic
http://ictmagic.wikispaces.com/Art%2C+Craft+%26+Design#neave_imagination Make art out of ribbons oflight with this interactive drawing site. #edchat #ukedchat
#edtech
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20:18:29 @englishlulu#UKedchat this is my latest "play" mind-map, same content,same outcome, same learning pic.twitter.com/27NVIDHIyu
20:18:35 @Jobaker9#UKedchat @rlj1981 thought this was quite fun, consideringpic.twitter.com/nkx5Up0mXt
20:18:36 @Gwenelope@ChocoTzar @KDWScience Doesn't the notion of #play offera safe environment to metaphorically 'fall over and graze yourknees'? #ukedchat
20:18:40 @EngChatUK@headguruteacher #UKedchat I think that this is the coreissue and why these discussions sometimes flounder.
20:18:40 @ChocoTzar
@Sarah__wright1 @ICTmagic Agreed. What do they want toplay? What do they want to do? What are they scared of?#UKedchat
20:18:44 @MsKateRyan
Word games are great for developing vocabulary as well as
learning prefixes/suffixes; scrabble, boggle, countdown.#UKedchat
20:18:44 @NikkiGilbey
@Teachric not bizarre...engaging.My stdts come from schoolv disengaged, play&trust helps get them to a place wherethey can learn #ukedchat
20:18:45 @MissHorsfall@rlj1981 @tmeeky my class from last year's favouritememory is of me playing in the snow with them! #ukedchat
20:18:45 @KerryPulleyn @ChocoTzar @KDWScience Definitely -I play! :) #UKedchat
20:18:52@BehaviourTe
ach
@RachelOrr @ukedchat haha I was going to suggest
secondary but felt I had no credit too seeing as I don't teachthat high haha #ukedchat
20:18:53@DanRavenEllison
@Teachric @NikkiGilbey nope. Not good enough. You canuse game play to teach very sophisticated stuff. We aretalking all ages #UKedchat
20:18:54 @Krenz77 Play is less threatening; there are no mistakes! #UKEdChat
20:18:56 @rlj1981@Xris32 can you explain why learners should be wary oflearning being fun? #ukedchat
20:18:58 @ICTmagic Is 'blue sky research' the same as play? #ukedchat
20:18:58
@DanRavenElli
son @sidchip64 a serious game. #UKedchat
20:19 @MsKateRyanThis was a year seven favourite last term:http://www.wordtwist.org/ #UKedchat
20:19:06 @Susan_Wilde@englishlulu #UKedchat I don't see that picture - it doesn'tlook like a mind map
20:19:19 @RachelOrr
@ukedchat #UKedchat What is your definition of PLAY? Is itabout enjoyment, fun ORR about focused learningexperiences?
20:19:19 @EngChatUK
@headguruteacher #UKedchat Play and creativity can be
highest level response arising from hard slog and attention todetail.
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20:19:26 @ChocoTzar
@kitandrew1 @rlj1981 Some of my science team teach anew concept, get them to play, then assess learning. It works!#UKedchat
20:19:38 @ukedchat
Have you explored the #ukedchat forums? See toight's topic
at http://ukedchat.com/forum-2/ukedchat-topics/should-we-encourage-play-in-our-classroom-to-engage-learning/
20:19:41 @tstarkey1212@KDWScience #ukedchat Devil's advocate here - why notjust skip straight to the explanation?
20:19:42@ShonetteBason
#ukedchat I think teachers are scared of the word 'play'. Whatdoes the verb 'to play in the classroom' look like?
20:19:44 @MissHorsfall@headguruteacher I like that idea of 'experimentation withpurpose' - thanks! #ukedchat
20:19:47 @rlj1981
@KerryPulleyn @headguruteacher could play be part of
building solid foundations of mutual respect with learners?#ukedchat
20:19:48 @KDWScience
@Gwenelope @ChocoTzar #UKedchat totally and by grazingknees we learn how not to do things, same with play sometimes right other times no
20:19:48 @TeamTait
Great #ukedchat happening right now - 'Should we encourageplay in our classroom to engage learning?' Use the hashtag tojoin conversation.
20:19:49@ChrisChivers
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#ukedchat What happens if... you mix yellow paint with blue?Does it matter how much of each you use? Play withmaterials, trial and error.
20:19:54 @RachelOrr
@ukedchat #UKedchat In a world of TECH, are we stillteaching children the skills of how to play, what to play? Dothey know how to?
20:19:55 @debrichmond
I think you CAN differentiate play. If the play is investigative,try giving more/less info/equip to different ability groups#ukedchat
20:19:55 @tmeeky
@MissHorsfall@rlj1981 my class from last year's favouritememory is of me playing in the snow with them! #ukedchat-yeah, >fun needed in schl
20:19:57@DanRavenEllison
It's interesting to reflect on the profs that we describe as'playing', including those in 'theatres' of war "playing" wargames #UKedchat
20:19:58 @RachelOrr
@ShonetteBason: #ukedchat I think teachers are scared ofthe word 'play'. What does the verb 'to play in the classroom'look like? Oh yes!
20:19:59 @KerryPulleynI wonder if we all mean the same or different things by usingthe word 'play' #UKedchat
20:20 @PupilFirst #UKedchat play is such a natural way to learn... purpose,
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20:20:11 @RachelOrr@ukedchat #UKedchat Play promotes positive attitudes toschool and to learning.
20:20:20 @Gwenelope@Xris32 Agree there, nothing maddens me more than the
words, "Can we have a fun lesson Miss?" #ukedchat20:20:26 @RachelOrr
@ukedchat #UKedchat Play provides opportunities fordeveloping movement and manipulative skills.
20:20:26@Loulou_Uberkirk
Do any teachers have any experience of behaviour watch?#ukedchat
20:20:33 @RachelOrr@ukedchat #UKedchat Play develops natural curiosity andstimulates imagination.
20:20:48@ShonetteBason
Did Sir Dyson 'play' he certainly did and look what happened!#ukedchat
20:20:53 @KDWScience @tstarkey1212 #UKedchat engagement is the key with somelearners, this was a way to engage on quite a dry topic +visually they remembered
20:21:06 @ICTmagic@tstarkey1212 Does self discovery have value? Hard wonlessons stick with you. #ukedchat
20:21:11 @rlj1981
@Gwenelope @ChocoTzar @KDWScience take risks, tryyour best... All sound like things I want my students to do#ukedchat
20:21:13@Edutronic_Net
In many cases I think that the joy and fulfilment that comes
from learning is a good definition for fun - #UKedchat
20:21:14 @Susan_Wilde
@EngChatUK @headguruteacher #UKedchat I think there's ahuge diff btwn sec English and say primary maths. I'mstruggling to find "play"
20:21:15@HuntingEnglish
@ICTEvangelist @headguruteacher Always about IT tools2nd - pedagogy always 1st - but if both aligned you canincrease engagement #ukedchat
20:21:15 @kitandrew1
@Krenz77 depends on the play, making mistakes instructured games can be threatening, but valuable as anexperience...#ukedchat
20:21:22 @KerryPulleyn@rlj1981 @headguruteacher Definitely - activities like circletime are playful #UKedchat
20:21:29 @chrishildrew
#ukedchat "Play" responses - drama based explorations ofcharacter - are a staple of many English teaching classrooms.Including mine!
20:21:35 @ChocoTzarI learnt to use my IWB, iPhone, and SIMS by playing.Redrafting my blog is playing with words/impact. #UKedchat
20:21:36 @RachelOrr
@BehaviourTeach @ukedchat #UKedchat Needs to be.People get hung up on the word 'play' and see it as free forall!
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20:21:39 @judeenright
@RachelOrr: @ukedchat #UKedchat In a world of TECH, arewe still teaching children how to play? Google 80/20 timeshows value of this.
20:21:41 @Sue_Cowley
@rlj1981 @Xris32 Play is fun, play can = learning, but not all
play does. Teachers guide play allowing/ensuring childrenlearn. #UKedchat
20:21:56 @chrishildrew
Me too! RT @ChocoTzar: I learnt to use my IWB, iPhone, andSIMS by playing. Redrafting my blog is playing withwords/impact. #UKedchat
20:21:57 @ukedchat@Krenz77 But mistakes are good. We learn from them#ukedchat (I know what you mean though) #ukedchat
20:22:03@DanRavenEllison
@Teachric @NikkiGilbey there is plenty of time for bothteachers and students to play. It does not have to be 100%
tests! #UKedchat
20:22:21 @tmeeky
RT @DanRavenEllison: @sidchip64 a serious game.#UKedchat> talking of serious games... these r used to helpmedical students learn
20:22:22 @ICTmagicIt's often remarked that 'they didn't even know they werelearning...' Do children value 'play' in learning? #ukedchat
20:22:37 @KerryPulleyn @Gwenelope @Xris32 GRAMMAR IS FUN!!! #UKedchat20:22:39 @Jivespin @aknill Absolutely! Great stuff #ukedchat
20:22:43 @englishlulu#ukedchat do we just say 'play' meaning interactive activities,
how much freedom do students have to 'play' with ideas?20:22:46 @Teachric @KerryPulleyn i think hugely different! #UKedchat
20:22:50 @RachelOrr@ukedchat #UKedchat 'Play' for learning is not simply abouthaving FUN!
20:22:50 @aknill@DanRavenEllison @Teachric @NikkiGilbey #ukedchat bestfactor that we can agree to disagree
20:22:53 @KerryPulleyn @Loulou_Uberkirk What's that? #UKedchat
20:22:53 @truan_steve
#UKedchat I've been lucky to teach nursery to yr13 No 1 canconcentrate 4 1hr Play builds relationships & deepenslearning
20:23:10@ShonetteBason
#ukedchat do you know the two most popular apps thatchildren play? Clash of clans & Hayday... Supercell watch &learn from their players...
20:23:30@ICTEvangelist
@HuntingEnglish @headguruteacher I refer you to my earliertweethttps://twitter.com/ICTEvangelist/status/373148455386218496 #ukedchat
20:23:34 @KDWScience
@kitandrew1 @Krenz77 #ukedchat but the mistakes are whathelps with the learning look COD they always get killed butcome back for more
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20:23:35 @MissHorsfall@ICTmagic I think it worries me a little that they separate thetwo..I'd prefer an attitude of 'we're always learning' #ukedchat
20:23:37 @ICTmagic
@Teachric I'm in agreement & that is always a danger. As aprofessional we should know when to use a technique & when
not to. #ukedchat20:23:47 @NikkiGilbey
@Teachric @DanRavenEllison It is possible to practice examquestions through playing games and competition #ukedchat
20:23:55@ICTEvangelist
@HuntingEnglish @headguruteacher in agreement when itcomes to tech for learning #ukedchat
20:24:02 @RachelOrr@rkieran @ukedchat #UKedchat Agreed. Those skills have tobe taught and not caught!
20:24:02 @mberry@ICTmagic never quite got that thing about adult directedplay. #contradictioninterms if you ask me. #ukedchat
20:24:05 @PupilFirst #UKedchat ever observed Early Years children playing invarious stations? The amount of learning fascinating
20:24:10@ChrisChivers2
@KerryPulleyn #ukedchat Play is becomes refined as we getolder. Buy a new iPad and then spend time finding out what itcan do=play.
20:24:13@ICTEvangelist
Tech should be part of the toolkit. Not THE toolkit. Mobile.Able to be taken out & used & put away just as quickly#UKEdChat
20:24:21 @tstarkey1212
@ICTmagic I'd argue that there's little self discovery in
classroom. Everything is led to an extent. 'Play' is just anactivity. #ukedchat
20:24:28 @hrogersonEvening! I start my plate tectonics lessons with a game ofbattleships: volcanoes vs earthquakes. #ukedchat
20:24:32 @RachelOrr@ukedchat #UKedchat FUN!!! F = fantastic U = unbelievableN = nonsense
20:24:35@Edutronic_Net
Play can be a great means of reducing the fear of failure -something rife in UK education at present. #UKedchat
20:24:42 @judeenright
@rkieran: @RachelOrr @ukedchat Some arrive at schoolunable to play to learn #ukedchat Absolutely,& see on lunchduty some can't play.
20:24:44 @aknill @Xris32 #ukedchat why can't learning be fun?
20:24:55 @little_mavis
Life would be dreary & pointless without play. It can be a wayin to new experiences And the line between work & play isblurred #ukedchat
20:25:02 @tmeeky
RT @Loulou_Uberkirk: Do any teachers have any experienceof behaviour watch? #ukedchat> the behaviour managementsoftware?
20:25:05 @englishlulu
#ukedchat in a strict and structure assessment regime, howcan 'play' find its place?
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@RachelOrr Yeah, I had that. Global search/replace with'explore' or 'experiement' seems to work. #ukedchat@ShonetteBason
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@HuntingEnglis
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@ICTEvangelist: @HuntingEnglish @headguruteacher in
agreement when it comes to tech for learning #ukedchat KS3? #ukedchat
20:30:18 @tmeeky
@Teachric are you not the expert in the classroom?Surelyyou should have control or why else .. ?#ukedchat>bonkersmore like :)
20:30:25 @ljmcq
#ukedchat play is vital for students with developmentalbreaks. Helps take student back to the point break andredevelop from there again.
20:30:30@PennyLeach123
@Teachric I have seen Lit, Maths, DT, History, Geog, Sci, Art,etc used. Suppose itepends on your interpretation of play?#ukedchat
20:30:33 @7puzzle
@hrogerson You need to teach the basics of anything in thenormal way, but 'play' is one great way of reinforcing thelearning. #UKedchat
20:30:36 @ViciaScience
@KDWScience @hrogerson is molecular modelling, egWatson and Crick DNA model a result of play? #play#UKedchat
20:30:39 @ICTmagic
Not sure that true play happens in the classroom. For me playis self-directed, free to follow where I or the group choose togo. #ukedchat
20:30:45 @sidchip64 @rlj1981 What's healthy competition? #ukedchat
20:30:48 @englishlulu#UKedchat If students don't want to play, should I makethem? Give them another role?
20:30:55@teacher_masked
What do we mean by play here? I'm all for fun, interactive andkinaesthetic learning. Bit patronizing to call it play though.#ukedchat
20:30:55 @KDWScience@ViciaScience @hrogerson #ukedchat, plus solids andliquids with corn flour and water
20:31:05 @headguruteac
her
@engchatuk #ukedchat. Yes,eg writing software, composing
a fugue or sonnet, built on graft, ending in experimentation
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20:31:10@stephbrooks1978
@ChocoTzar a good life skill is learning to lose with grace -this needs to be handled sensitively in the classroom#UKedchat
20:31:15 @hrogerson @mrlockyer @ManYanaEd like what? I am really struggling tothink of anything? #ukedchat
20:31:15 @rlj1981How might we link encouraging play to gamification?#UKedchat pic.twitter.com/o1S47ZMKYN
20:31:16 @mberry@DanRavenEllison Play = (Aim or no aim) + at least 0 rules.#UKedchat
20:31:20 @juleslearning@HeyMissSmith @mberry skill of teacher to take childrenthrough exploration to develop learning #ukedchat
20:31:39
@ChrisChivers
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@Xris32 @Sue_Cowley #ukedchat There is a difference
between exploratory play with ideas etc and performance inany sphere.
20:31:48@Thatch_Teach
#ukedchat I still like to play, so why are we surprised studentsdo too?! It increases engagement and can lead to v. goodlearning
20:31:55 @ChocoTzar
@Gwenelope @rlj1981 @KDWScience Your regime soundsawful, we're working hard to encourage staff playing.#UKedchat
20:31:55 @NaomiWhite1@rlj1981 Sure but don't think everyone feels that way when
they are under pressure to get results. #UKedchat20:31:57 @sidchip64 @NaomiWhite1 That's just losing in competition? #UKedchat
20:31:58@Sarah__wright1
@ICTmagic I think that can be fostered, pupil led learningleads to opportunities for pupils to take ownership of play!#ukedchat
20:31:58@HuntingEnglish
@Xris32 @aknill Like 'independence', 'fun' is often anoutcome at the end of very long spells of gritty, dull & unfuneffort! #ukedchat
20:32:01 @ICTmagic
I think exploration of a situation/skill/problem happens all thetime in classrooms, but there are confines to adhere to.#ukedchat
20:32:03 @climbdg5From 0yo we learn through play...educators need to nudgethe games, rather than control the outcome #UKedchat
20:32:08 @ChocoTzar @stephbrooks1978 I never learned to lose well :( #UKedchat
20:32:26 @aknill
@Teachric @tmeeky #ukedchat so as the "expert" do youever learn from pupils? I do and it's why I enjoy my job 25years in.
20:32:27 @DanRavenEllison
I recommend looking to #Scotland for that they are doing onoutdoor learninghttp://www.educationscotland.gov.uk/learningteachingandass
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essment/approaches/outdoorlearning/about/experiencesandoutcomes.asp - well ahead of England #UKedchat
20:32:29 @hrogerson
@7puzzle I do crosswords, is that play? I have made revisionboard games- poor quality and little science content. What
else? #ukedchat
20:32:29 @KDWScience
@ChocoTzar @Gwenelope @rlj1981 #ukedchat I am veryorientated by play as you know so there is lots going on in mylab when appropriate!!!
20:32:40 @Debsgf
This #UKedchat is interesting. I worry that PRP and meddlingof the curriculum will not allow teachers the confidence to takecreative risks
20:32:48 @ukedchat
TChat will add the hashtag at the end of your tweet!http://www.tchat.io/rooms/ukedchat Give it a try if you keep
forgetting to add #ukedchat
20:32:53 @debrichmond
@ViciaScience @KDWScience @hrogerson Many famousscientists came up with great theories through 'playing'#UKedchat
20:32:56 @RachelOrr@ukedchat #UKedchat Play according to Yoda!pic.twitter.com/SCDesXC4lE
20:33:16 @EngChatUK
@headguruteacher #UKedchat Composition of music orpoetry or dance within intricate and complex 'rules' = ultimateplay.
20:33:17 @rlj1981@sidchip64 not Lord of the Flies style #UKedchat wherelearners feel ok to win or lose
20:33:18 @mrlockyer
@hrogerson @ManYanaEd In Geog, rather than saying 'weare learning about landlocked countries' I introduced this witha game. 1/2 #ukedchat
20:33:18 @davidErogers
Through using play(ful) learning appropriately, thedepartments GCSE results increased every year by around8% av per year #ukedchat
20:33:19 @ChocoTzar @stephbrooks1978 And neither has Gove #UKedchat
20:33:23 @DanRavenEllison
RT @mberry: @DanRavenEllison Play = (Aim or no aim) + atleast 0 rules.
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of play! allows for exploration of ideas in a way that comesnaturally #UKedchat
20:33:47 @judeenright
@ICTmagic #ukedchat At nursery,son wd take all chairs fromactivity tables,put 'em into rows of plane seats, ask"Who's
coming on my plane?"
20:33:53 @ICTmagic
@Sarah__wright1 Readhttps://twitter.com/ICTmagic/status/373165969322950657 I'm arguing that play = freedom to choose. Can that befostered? True freedom? #ukedchat
20:33:59 @k8rook@HuntingEnglish @Xris32 @aknill agree. But worth the dullgritty effort #UKedchat
20:34:05 @MarinaRobb #ukedchat Define 'play'
20:34:06 @davidErogers
Appropriately used, playful learning can allow young people to
demonstrate sound subject knowledge and increase examperformance #ukedchat20:34:07 @sidchip64 @rlj1981 Would rather link play to dedification... #UKedchat
20:34:20 @mberry
@HeyMissSmith Learning through play is more engaging thanother sorts of learning. Also requires thought and preparation#ukedchat Worth it.
20:34:23 @joeybagstock
@virkjay @rlj1981 yes, I used to think that but reallybeginning to think engages is not the same thing as learning#UKedchat
20:34:25 @davidErogers Of course, I can't generalise, just tell stories of when it'sworked. Key word is appropriately and for te teacher to judge#ukedchat
20:34:27@Handonheartarts
'Play' enables happy accidents and unintended, creativeoutcomes. It's healthy for all human beings, not just schoolage CYP #UKedchat
20:34:27 @ictdesign12
geography resources Websites illustrations videosphotography infographics maps interactive gameshttp://magpiethat.com/category/foundation-subjects/humanities/geography/ #ukedchat #sltchat
20:34:30 @virkjayPlay is integral to all learning and developing social & coopskills #UKedchat
20:34:35 @ukedchat
Need more space to comment? Try the #ukedchat forum athttp://ukedchat.com/forum-2/ukedchat-topics/should-we-encourage-play-in-our-classroom-to-engage-learning/
20:34:39@HuntingEnglish @ChocoTzar I need to learn to lose graciously too! #ukedchat
20:34:41@BinksNeateEvans
@ICTmagic agreed but may be initiated by others includingpeers and adults #ukedchat
20:34:54 @RachelOrr @ukedchat #UKedchat So, who's coming out to play tonight!20:34:57 @ICTmagic @judeenright Fab. I bet the learning & social interaction was
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superb. :) #ukedchat
20:35 @hrogerson@debrichmond @ViciaScience @KDWScience but I can'tthink of what students could do? #ukedchat
20:35@Sarah__wrigh
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@ICTmagic great point! Would be interesting to investigate!
#ukedchat20:35:05 @englishlulu
#UKedchat so have we defined what play looks like in asecondary school classroom?
20:35:05 @natgon90
How many people use paper planners, computer planners orno planner at all? It's my first year without a paper planner!!#ukedchat #edchat
20:35:12 @ravivian@climbdg5 @rlj1981 giving freedom to play and be creative inlearning is essential to teaching but scary too! #UKedchat
20:35:21 @virkjay@joeybagstock @rlj1981 Think is boys are enjoying& learning
= engaging #UKedchat
20:35:22 @Shaf_Hansraj
What do we mean by play? In my mind play is learningthrough enquiry or modelling real world situations - all ofwhich is relevant #UKedchat
20:35:25 @sidchip64 @rlj1981 Then is that really competition? #UKedchat
20:35:28 @KDWScience@ViciaScience @hrogerson #ukedchat as we know theydrew, used all sorts to model it, so I'd say yes they played!
20:35:32 @rlj1981@sidchip64: @rlj1981 Would rather link play to dedification...#UKedchat> explain?
20:35:34 @KerryPulleyn @joeybagstock @virkjay @rlj1981 it doesn't have to be.Engaged learning can be quiet, focused and studious.#UKedchat
20:35:38@headguruteacher
#ukedchat Our Y13 English students often act out texts; theyplay with sounds, characterisations, imagery. Play can belaced with rigour.
20:35:47 @Susan_Wilde@HuntingEnglish @ChocoTzar #UKedchat there's probably alose gracefully app for the iPad...
20:35:55 @judeenright
@ICTmagic #ukedchat As secondary teacher, I was v jealousthat pre-school teachers cd just go with it, as did most of hisclassmates.
20:35:55 @rkieran
#ukedchat the fantastic Prof Stamatis Vokos at Seattle uniuses play to demonstrate energy transference. He is deadclever.
20:35:56 @Shaf_Hansraj
Play in secondary school would be modelling concepts andideas or exploration of the environment - learning should befun #UKedchat
20:35:57 @MsKateRyanLet staff play - the brilliant @RitahinCo proved it can workduring inset at school this week. #ukedchat
20:35:58 @rlj1981 @sidchip64 if the outcomes matter? #ukedchat
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20:36:03 @allicatski @RachelOrr #UKedchat Aren't we all playing now?!
20:36:05@HuntingEnglish
@Sue_Cowley @Edutronic_Net Makes more sense or me inthat context. Less so in my context. Too many interpretations.#ukedchat
20:36:11 @mrlockyer @ManYanaEd @hrogerson Primary btw #ukedchat
20:36:31 @ICTmagic
@BinksNeateEvans Oh... intiation can come fromanything/where, but freedom to ebb & flow from there... thatmakes the difference. #ukedchat
20:36:33 @truan_steve
Just throwing it out there- but in my exp teachers who strugglewith play also struggle with behaviour man It's about letting go#ukedchat
20:36:34 @apieceoflisaLearning through play can often direct learning in a differentdirection encouraging flexible thinking #ukedchat
20:36:42 @rlj1981 Why might teachers encourage play? Have a look here:http://playwithlearning.com/2010/12/07/where-play-meets-learning/ by Carlton Reeve #UKedchat
20:36:45 @alifesobeautifl
@Thatch_Teach @rlj1981 agreed, we need to give ourchildren lots of praise when they accomplish something hard!#UKedchat
20:36:49 @Susan_Wilde
@KerryPulleyn @joeybagstock @virkjay @rlj1981 #UKedchatsome of it needs to be. As a learner, that's what some of themlike
20:36:50 @englishlulu #UKedchat - English teachers - examples / ideas of how wecan 'play' when teaching a text? Make it real for me.
20:36:55 @judeenright@ICTmagic #ukedchat In Y5 last yr, he went and helped outin Reception class during "choosing time" most weeks!
20:36:57 @virkjay@Debsgf Play develops their resilience & confidence toovercome their fear #UKedchat
20:37:06@Edutronic_Net
Most of the teenage boys I work with take their games veryseriously #ukedchat
20:37:10 @ukedchat
Join the 359 educators who have subscribed to the free#ukedchat bulletin with news & the best posts on the hashtag.http://ukedchat.us7.list-manage1.com/subscribe?u=e97344da33f46a7dbb6f16fe4&id=ec47899e39
20:37:17 @tstarkey1212
@joeybagstock @virkjay @rlj1981 There must be a linedrawn between engagement and learning. That's the problem,right there. #ukedchat
20:37:21 @RachelOrr@ukedchat #UKedchat http://Play.com Play station Playmobile Playboy
20:37:22 @KerryPulleyn
@englishlulu I do things which are playful sometimes :)learning activities based on games, but it's hard to make really
#ukedchat ~
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20:37:34 @MsKateRyan
We were put into groups and sent on a treasure hunt. Weplayed our way around the school and had lots of (dare I sayit?) fun! #UKedchat
20:37:37@DanRavenElli
son
The is a culture of fear around play. Not enough secondary
teachers dare to use play. #UKedchat20:37:39
@HuntingEnglish
@Susan_Wilde @ChocoTzar My iPad memory is taken up bycompetitive zero-sum games! #ukedchat
20:37:46 @sidchip64@rlj1981 Word play; not fan of gamification, so dedification...Dedicated learning... #UKedchat
20:37:50 @KopfarmThe best teachers let children 'learn' through discovering forthemselves. They learn a lot through play #UKedchat
20:37:51 @KerryPulleyn@englishlulu challenging skills learning playful. However,elements of fun can be built in #UKedchat
20:37:51@ChrisChivers2
@rlj1981 #ukedchat Children learn to take turns, defer toanother, through interaction with peers. Ludo, snakes andladders etc.
20:37:51 @Debsgf
@englishlulu there's so much space for hot seating andallowing pupils of all abilities to see any text in a new way with'play' #ukedchat
20:37:52@Andyphilipday
@headguruteacher #ukedchat Is being extended to othersubjects w. the 'playlets' devised by Kate Brennan with@ActtheFacts Some great ideas
20:37:52 @tstarkey1212
@Kopfarm That's a nonsense generalisation. #ukedchat20:37:53 @sidchip64
@rlj1981 They do in competition... That's what makes acompetition...? #UKedchat
20:37:56@headguruteacher
#ukedchat Students can design 'crazy circuits' playfully butneed to analyse why they behave the way they do. Otherwiseit's messing about.
20:38 @ICTmagic
@judeenright Interested that what is valued at nursery, losesvalue at school & becomes celebrated at Uni and in the worldof work #ukedchat
20:38:01 @Debsgf@virkjay yes, worries me that there are schools which couldbe less inclined to develop such teaching #UKedchat
20:38:06@Edutronic_Net
In English: role-play a character from a text and present themwith a range of dilemmas. #UKedchat
20:38:16 @RachelOrr#UKedchat Is there a fine line between play based learningand project based learning?
20:38:22 @tmeekyLife's too short not to have a playful outlook... isn't it?#ukedchat
20:38:22 @gavinsmartWhat about @CainesArcade for learning through play?#ukedchat http://cainesarcade.com
20:38:25 @aknill @DanRavenEllison: The is a culture of fear around play. Not
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enough secondary teachers dare to use play. #UKedchatthat's coming out here
20:38:26 @scjmcd
@chrishildrew I have to agree here. Main aim is for us toenhance learning. That can be through play, fun or whatever it
takes. #UKedchat
20:38:29 @davidErogers
If play doesn't work for you, I won't lose sleep over it but don'twaste your breath trying to convince me it doesn't work.#UKedchat
20:38:29@ChrisChivers2
@rlj1981 #ukedchat Children learn about fairness from gamesplaying, either indoor games or developing sports awareness.
20:38:34@RMatthews_PriEd
@jo3grace one of my best experiences too- a chd withselective mutism in school broke it to speak to me as astudent teacher #UKedchat
20:38:36 @mrlockyer @ManYanaEd @hrogerson Probably no time at all. Would ithave stuck? Is a teacher's role simply to tell children things?#ukedchat
20:38:39 @Debsgf
@englishlulu @KerryPulleyn playing with texts can visualimages, hotseating. The more pupils get out of their seats thebetter! #UKedchat
20:38:39 @ukedchat
RT @kitandrew1: Shakespeare was 1 of our most playfulwriters..puns, slapstick, etc, all words. Why? To engageaudience/make point #ukedchat
20:38:48 @virkjay@Debsgf Without play & being creative we wouldn't developlanguage & range of skills amongst our pupils #UKedchat
20:38:54 @joeybagstock@englishlulu Louisa, I'm not sure what you mean by 'make itreal for me'. Am I being thick? #UKedchat
20:38:55 @juleslearning
@Sue_Cowley @mberry letting children play withprogramming v important part of implementing new computingPOS #ukedchat
20:38:55 @ukedchat
RT @mazst: @RachelOrr @BehaviourTeach #ukedchat butdone badly it can become a free for all and that is when "play"is discredited
20:38:55 @hrogerson
@headguruteacher they just end up running out my batteriesand overheating the wires.... I set challenges, but it isstructured. #UKedchat
20:39:04 @davidErogersSimilarly, I won't (can't in fact) convince you. I'll still sleep. Andthat's not just the running or playing all day #UKedchat
20:39:15 @RachelOrr
@chrishildrew: #ukedchat essentially the learning is the key -if play is the best way to achieve the learning, then play away!ORRsome!
20:39:19 @sidchip64
Anyone remember 'History play'? #MrMen #Nazis...? Even
Gove got involved... #UKedchat
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20:39:21 @ravivian
@climbdg5 @rlj1981 definitely, unfortunately some teachersback away from scary, we shud embrace it: use it to stretchourselves #UKedchat
20:39:23 @Susan_Wilde@Edutronic_Net #ukedchat I think we just define play
differently. I don't see that as play - its just what I do20:39:32 @JamesTheo
Huh? "@ShonetteBason Did Sir Dyson 'play' he certainly didand look what happened! #ukedchat"
20:39:37 @aknill@headguruteacher #ukedchat so the play is part of theprocess and evaluated formally
20:39:38 @KerryPulleyn
@englishlulu playing 'splat' with key words or drama basedactivities, maybe card or board game based activities#ukedchat
20:39:47 @tstarkey1212@debrichmond From what I've heard so far, EVERYONE'S
definition is very different. #ukedchat20:39:47 @Debsgf
@virkjay just today S&L has been removed from EnglishGCSE curriculum. That's a concern #UKedchat
20:39:49 @debrichmondI am thinking that the primary and secondary schooldefinitions of play are very different #ukedchat
20:39:50 @virkjay
@tstarkey1212 @joeybagstock @rlj1981 I don't see whythere to needs to be so.. Pupil enjoying , engaging isdeveloping thinking #UKedchat
20:39:56 @davidErogers
Helped an Maths NqT last year to introduce play into some
maths lessons to develop understanding with tricky yr11s.Worked a treat #ukedchat
20:39:58 @NaomiWhite1Ultimately shouldn't we be finding joyful ways to spend ourlives? If play does that... ?? #UKedchat
20:39:59 @RachelOrr@mazst @BehaviourTeach @ukedchat #UKedchat Probablywhere 'toy day' came from! Lol
20:40 @rlj1981#ukedchat my sixth form learners play- and learn- is playapplicable to non primary? pic.twitter.com/TULusnZ03s
20:40:03@Thatch_Teac
h
@truan_steve agree with that. People need to be prepared forthings to go wrong and know how to adapt and change asneeded #UKedchat
20:40:06 @judeenright
@ICTmagic #ukedchat Only at Google! Was just about totweet that sec ed is designed to produce officeautomatons.Ken Robinson put it better.
20:40:07 @tmeeky
RT @debrichmond: I am thinking that the pri +sec schooldefinitions of play are very different #ukedchat> yeah, course,but principles same
20:40:08 @davidErogersKey word is appropriate. Same with any teaching thing.#ukedchat
20:40:14 @RMatthews_PriEd
One of the best moments of my teaching career- transforming
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the behaviour of a Y4 boy with a serious stealing problem.#UKedchat
20:40:14@ChrisChivers2
@ManYanaEd @rlj1981 #UKedchat For many childrenarriving in EYFS, it may well be their first experience of turn
taking, but controlled.20:40:24 @mrlockyer
@debrichmond Agree, but much to learn from each other!#primaryandproud #UKedchat
20:40:28 @virkjay@Debsgf Absolutely - scary! What a narrow curriculum it willbe #UKedchat
20:40:28@stephbrooks1978
#UKedchat role play in MFL is vital - an artificialenvironment/situation requires creativity and fearlessness -safe to fail and lose
20:40:34 @Debsgf Ah #UKedchat how I've missed you! First chat after my hols!
20:40:35 @hrogerson Ok, games I can think of splat, bingo, dominoes, crosswords,wordsearch, missing vowels, who am I? #ukedchat
20:40:36 @KerryPulleyn
@englishlulu teacher in role activities are usually great fun,but drama offers possibilities like forum theatre, which is ~#UKedchat
20:40:37 @tstarkey1212@virkjay @joeybagstock @rlj1981 I'm there to teach them asubject. They can think fine themselves #ukedchat
20:40:40 @KerryPulleyn @englishlulu serious but very creative #UKedchat
20:40:45 @debrichmond
@hrogerson @headguruteacher I say that what you have just
described is still an example of play, just more structured.#ukedchat
20:40:45 @Debsgf@englishlulu that's the joy though isn't? Such a wide definitionof what it is. #UKedchat
20:40:57 @chrismcd53#ukedchat is play a poor medium for learning or are teachersuncomfortable planning to use it? Creativity required!
20:41:08 @mberry@rlj1981 YES! (I don't normally shout on here) We encourageour 1st Years to play too. They don't like it though. #ukedchat
20:41:10 @ICTmagic
@judeenright I think it is more wide spread than just Google,but they were (past tense) a good case. They've drop 20%time now :( #ukedchat
20:41:11 @englishlulu#ukedchat agh it's really hard to explain what I mean in so fewcharacters. Let me try again.
20:41:13 @rlj1981
Bruce sets out arguments for encouraging play in youngchildren- can these also apply to older learners?http://www.richlearningopportunities.co.uk/pdf/importance%20of%20play.pdf #UKedchat
20:41:13 @ChocoTzar Play with books = lifelong literacy #UKedchat20:41:14 @Andyphilipda
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#ukedchat Beyond engaging ss learning through forms ofplay, can depts, CPD or whole-school management be
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developed thru' forms of 'play'?
20:41:14 @truan_steveMystified that some peeps don't value play Is their main focuscontrol, control, control? #ukedchat
20:41:14 @MissHorsfall
@stephbrooks1978 equally games are a good way to practice
& learn new language e.g. bingo. Thanks for mentioning playand MFL. #ukedchat
20:41:16 @KDWScience#ukedchat play is about learning you own strength andweaknesses while engaged in activities.
20:41:26@ChrisChivers2
@kitandrew1 @rlj1981 #ukedchat Many employability skillscan be developed through play- role play, collaborative play,product development,
20:41:29 @rlj1981@debrichmond how do you think primary and secondary kidsplay differently? #UKedchat
20:41:37 @lahewes #ukedchat play is self directed and intrinsically motivated.Elements of play can be used but adult involvement sulliestrue meaning
20:41:38 @ICTmagic@mberry Why don't they like it? Feel silly? Out of comfortzone? @rlj1981 #ukedchat
20:41:41 @englishlulu#ukedchat if the text we are studying is finite, unchangeable.Then we can 'play' as we explore it, but can we 'play' with it?
20:41:45 @scjmcd@rlj1981 #ukedchat you have proved that it is in that pic.Sixth formers love playing more than year 9-11. Less inhibited
20:41:50 @joeybagstock @tstarkey1212 @virkjay @rlj1981 agreed. I do fun lessonsand the kids enjoy them (I think), but I don't think they learnmuch. #UKedchat
20:41:55 @ravivian
Play allows learners to be engaged in topics they wouldnormally back down from. Play allows sense of adventure notrepetition #ukedchat
20:41:57 @Sue_Cowley
@MarinaRobb @hrogerson free exploration of a *world*,guided by the instincts, the interests and the senses ...#UKedchat
20:42:01 @KerryPulleyn
@Debsgf @englishlulu I like sticking post it key words on theirback and they have to work them out by talking to friends#UKedchat
20:42:08 @ukedchat
Join the 360 educators who have subscribed to the free#ukedchat bulletin with news & the best posts on the hashtag.http://ukedchat.us7.list-manage1.com/subscribe?u=e97344da33f46a7dbb6f16fe4&id=ec47899e39
20:42:11 @davidErogers
@geodebs used Jenga and twister this year with 11a forrevision. Those targeted Ds got Cs and above. Can't find thelink at the mo #ukedchat
20:42:20 @KDWScience @hrogerson who wants to be a millionaire, is always good
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one, countdown, #UKedchat
20:42:22@ChrisChivers2
@ManYanaEd @rlj1981 #ukedchat Keep rules simple to start,develop complexity later. Always focus on fairness and equity.
20:42:26 @Susan_Wilde@joeybagstock @tstarkey1212 @virkjay @rlj1981 #UKedchat
I bet they learn more than when they are bored20:42:29 @rlj1981 @mberry could you explain how? #ukedchat
20:42:35@Edutronic_Net
We shouldn't under-estimate the inter-personal importance ofplay #ukedchat
20:42:37 @aknill
@Andyphilipday #ukedchat eg teach staff about#solotaxonomy through Lego play or hexa... Shapes (botavoidance)
20:42:39 @Debsgf
Problem is the higher up you go in the education system, themore temptation it is to steer away from learning through play.
#ukedchat20:42:41 @RitahinCo
#ukedchat See our staff training day feed #BletchleyMead.Much play involved.
20:42:41 @sidchip64
Showing my age, but loved this... Anyone else think this whensomeone says play away...? http://youtu.be/WjPprQd6HF8#UKedchat
20:42:50 @mberry
@ICTmagic @rlj1981 Often seems to be that they're used tohaving teachers tell/show them things & think that's howlearning works. #ukedchat
20:42:51 @shornymorgan
I think we should try to aid our students' learning throughgames designed around learning! Literary technique snapcards etc #ukedchat
20:42:57 @lahewes#ukedchat being playful is different. Play is a seriousbusiness!
20:43:02 @mrlockyer
@ManYanaEd As a Consultant, is this method how youadvocate progressing Teaching and Learning? Which agegroup for? #ukedchat
20:43:07 @ukedchat
@mazst Great comments, but please use #ukedchat hash taginstead of the @ account, so more people can see yourviews. Thank you :-)
20:43:08@teacher_masked
In ICT lessons we use Scratch to make games. Surely play isa pre-requisite of testing! #ukedchat
20:43:27@headguruteacher
@debrichmond @hrogerson #ukedchat. I agree about needfor structure. Some kids drown if it's too open-ended. Butothers thrive if let go.
20:43:28@Mrs_T_Archer
#ukedchat I'm a HoD of Humanities (RE specialist) &wondered if any #geographyteachers could explain how thecase studies work in gcse aqa a
20:43:31 @ravivian @truan_steve undoubtedly. We need to transform our
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profession from control to creativity #UKedchat (all inproportion obviously)
20:43:38 @davidErogers
@HuntingEnglish I agree. But definition of play is relative. Tomy mother playing is monopoly, to me it's jumping off cliffs
#ukedchat
20:43:39 @hrogerson
@KDWScience: @hrogerson who wants to be a millionaire, isalways good one, countdown, #UKedchat oo and four picsone word!
20:43:39@shornymorgan
Designing learning activities around 'play' can be timeconsuming, but the results are always so worth it, in myexperience. #ukedchat
20:43:43 @tstarkey1212
@truan_steve I'd suggest play (in its many guises on here sofar) in no way equates to freedom. Just as structured.
#UKedchat
20:43:43 @joeybagstock
@virkjay @Susan_Wilde @KerryPulleyn @rlj1981 #UKedchatyes, I agree with that. Also, variety is necessary to supportlonger term aims
20:43:45 @Sue_Cowley
The *teachers* need to play as well as the *kids*! We shouldstop sifting all the risk and creativity out of teaching.#UKedchat
20:43:46 @rlj1981@SteveThursbyMA: @Edutronic_Net Shapes society. Couldyou explain why? #UKedchat
20:43:49 @Thatch_Teach
Doing trench warfare,had whole class paper ball fight. Allenjoyed,had fun, all learned&next lesson showed excellentunderstanding #ukedchat
20:44 @cathy_cross
When I work with teachers I always include an element of playin CPD -if we don't then we forget the magic of how it makesus feel #UKedchat
20:44:05 @KateTruan
#UKedchat The definition of play is not important at all, whatis vital is the understanding of early development and howchild'n learn.
20:44:23 @judeenright
@Andyphilipday Hmm. Not judging by some #ukedchatcomments. But I would argue play is best way for teachers toget to grips with new tech.
20:44:23 @Susan_Wilde@davidErogers @HuntingEnglish #UKedchat can I nominatewhich kids do which?
20:44:24 @debrichmond@rlj1981 To clarify, I don't think they play differently, I thinkwe interpret the value of their play differently. #ukedchat
20:44:39 @Debsgf@KerryPulleyn @englishlulu I do the same thing, post-it onforehead to work on character or word analysis #UKedchat
20:44:40 @tmeeky I think we need add into tonight's discussion the importance of
allowing our own kids to play when at home. So important to
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value #ukedchat
20:44:44 @hrogerson@scjmcd: @KDWScience @hrogerson yes and#blockbusters, penalty shoot out, etc #ukedchat
20:44:46 @davidErogers
Another @priorygeography playful adventure is Olympic
Geocachinghttp://daviderogers.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/olympic-geocaching.html even stared a kid from Super Nanny#ukedchat
20:44:50 @lahewes#ukedchat perhaps taking the use of the word 'play' tooliterally.
20:45:05 @ICTmagic
@mberry Shocking that the 'production line' exists &seemingly intelligent people need to be shown it's ok to think!@rlj1981 #ukedchat
20:45:16 @RachelOrr Play develops transferable skills. Teach, share, develop,practice, enhance, show, deliver .... It's where it starts!#UKedchat
20:45:18 @tstarkey1212 #ukedchat 'Play' does not equate to 'creativity'.
20:45:20 @rpd1972
#ukedchat @chrismcd53 Creativity def. essential, +broadminded SLT who see value of play & don't want writtenevid of progress every 5 mins
20:45:22 @KateTruan#UKedchat ...excellent teacher training that had depth is vitalthen no definition of 'play' is needed!!
20:45:38 @englishlulu #ukedchat @Andyphilipday @rlj1981 one of my fav CPD wasteam cooking session - very playful.
20:45:45 @MrHadenGeo
I love using play in the classroom, but I often go into it withsome fear and trepidation. Its learning for me as well as thekids #UKedchat
20:45:56 @KerryPulleyn
@englishlulu I think you can sometimes. I've had Y11s deliverspeeches from ShKespeare by transforming them into the~#UKedchat
20:45:57 @Susan_Wilde@Debsgf @KerryPulleyn @englishlulu #UKedchat Tabooworks similarly - get kids to make own versions
20:46 @JuliaHines@Debsgf Like this year 5 maths sheet my son received froma fab teacher http://twitpic.com/anw5gh #ukedchat
20:46:01 @davidErogers
@Susan_Wilde @HuntingEnglish that's the whole point of ateacher. To use the appropriate methods to the teacher andchildren ;-) #ukedchat
20:46:06 @chrishildrew
#ukedchat Simulations are powerful play - the AQA #GCSEMedia exam is an in-role response to a simulated productionbrief.
20:46:15 @rlj1981
Is it only true play if child initiated? Can teaching activities
really be play? #ukedchat
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20:46:17 @mrlockyer@tstarkey1212 @truan_steve Agree. Freedom withinconfines. Play within boundaries. Walled gardens. #UKedchat
20:46:19 @KerryPulleyn@englishlulu style of a comedian. It needs some prep - butthey really have to focus on the language #UKedchat
20:46:31@stephbrooks1978
#UKedchat examples of games in MFL lessons -Blockbusters, pass the bomb, countdown, hotseating, bingo,heads down thumbs up, twister,
20:46:34 @joeybagstock
@JamesTheo @virkjay @tstarkey1212 @rlj1981 #UKedchatI'm always surprised by how much 'difficult' kids rejectattempts to inject play focus
20:46:43 @aknill@Xris32 agree learning has intense non fun areas but life ismulti faceted #ukedchat
20:46:48 @RachelOrrHave we different perceptions and definitions of 'play' ?
#UKedchat20:46:56 @englishlulu
@KerryPulleyn Agree, I have done stuff using first and finaldrafts of OMAM. #UKedchat
20:47:13 @ieshasmall@ManYanaEd @JamesTheo @hrogerson there is a role forrehearsal to embed things, no? #UKedchat
20:47:17@Andyphilipday
@englishlulu @rlj1981 #ukedchat ...and what did you learnfrom it?
20:47:25 @sidchip64@judeenright @Andyphilipday I would argue the best way isto RTFM... #UKedchat
20:47:27 @MrHadenGeo Using play really helped me unlock the tricky classes. Troublewas their expectations of me rose. Need to be clear andconsistent #ukedchat
20:47:50 @ViciaScience@hrogerson @debrichmond @KDWScience computer gamessuch as simple physics and plague inc? #UKedchat
20:48:03 @chrishildrew
@rlj1981 Sure they can! #ukedchat Adults can initiate, guideand shape the play without "spoiling" it, if they're careful andsensitive.
20:48:08 @tstarkey1212@Susan_Wilde @joeybagstock @virkjay @rlj1981 Worryingabout 'boring' kids massively problematic. #ukedchat
20:48:14 @tmeeky
Made a version of Cranium game based on Heroes... madelearning abt the book for GCSE accessible for my SENstudents #ukedchat
20:48:15 @davidErogers
Revision Jenga @geodebshttp://geogdebens.wordpress.com/2013/05/14/gcse-revision-jenga/jenga-2/ andhttp://geogdebens.wordpress.com/2013/05/14/gcse-revision-jenga/ #UKedchat
20:48:21 @School_LN strategy, the link between learning and play #UKedchat20:48:27 @Susan_Wilde @joeybagstock @JamesTheo @virkjay @tstarkey1212
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@rlj1981 #UKedchat that's prob because they haven't learnedto play at home.
20:48:38 @ravivian@rlj1981 children try to join in adult play all the time. It is oneof the best ways of understanding the world #UKedchat
20:48:44 @rlj1981 @ICTmagic @mberry maybe better to model than to tell assuch? #ukedchat
20:49:02@stephbrooks1978
#UKedchat in fact any game can be adapted for MFL teaching- cluedo, monoploly you name it - I'll adapt it :)
20:49:15 @chrismcd53@rpd1972 #ukedchat when play is used as a medium forlearning progress is easily demonstrated!
20:49:15 @mrlockyer
@ManYanaEd The former, yes. I also read around Education.Have you read Heath, Cuhill, Syed? #booktoptrumps#ukedchat
20:49:28 @hrogerson @ViciaScience @debrichmond @KDWScience justwondering if 'playing' with simulations count? #ukedchat#PhET
20:49:30 @debrichmond
@truan_steve @rlj1981 Agreed. Need to culture a safeenvironment so they feel they can play - remove fear of'getting it wrong' #UKedchat
20:49:33 @NaomiWhite1Play can suggest choice to indulge in what you like/have aninterest in to your heart's content? #UKedchat
20:49:35 @ICTmagic
@csf0961 The idea that there is 1 answer is outdated.
#QuestionEverything Poke & prod ideas to see if they holdwater! @mberry #ukedchat
20:49:40 @tstarkey1212@judeenright Cannot get a handle on it! Might be different fortweetdeck? #ukedchat
20:49:50 @MrHadenGeo
I think one of my targets this NQT year will be to use playmore creatively and effectively. It can be a powerful teachingtool #UKedchat
20:50 @floorphillaz@ViciaScience @hrogerson @debrichmond @KDWSciencePlague Inc is really addictive and informative! #UKedchat
20:50:04 @juleslearning
@tstarkey1212 planning play for a purpose allows thelearners freedom to imagine and discover and learn forthemselves #ukedchat
20:50:14 @MissHorsfall@chrismcd53 @rpd1972 Not criticising, rather curious: howdo you show progress with play? #ukedchat
20:50:17 @Gwenelope
@Sue_Cowley Exactly the point I was trying to make earlier.Playing with pedagogy should be part & parcel of what we do.#ukedchat
20:50:17 @Debsgf
@englishlulu @Xris32 @KerryPulleyn there are so manydifferent ways of using creative learning, not just drama focus
#UKedchat
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20:50:27 @debrichmond @hrogerson @ViciaScience @KDWScience Yes! #UKedchat
20:50:29 @scjmcd#UKedchat Who plays walk the plank and fling the teacherswith their classes?
20:50:30 @cathy_cross
working with staff team next week INSET - playing together
and building dens - then how we build the boundaries forassessment #UKedchat
20:50:36 @tmeeky
Teachers who are also parents: some ideas to help you keepa good work/life balance and enjoy family timehttp://bit.ly/11fB2L3 #ukedchat
20:50:51 @NaomiWhite1 Is play necessarily creative? #UKedchat
20:50:54 @ravivianNew twitter makes #UKedchat harder to follow. Need to #playwith it!
20:50:56 @davidErogers
@Gwenelope @Thatch_Teach @rlj1981 @ChocoTzar
@KDWScience we had Ofsted in and had kids out playing.Got picked up as good practice #ukedchat
20:50:58 @allicatski
@joeybagstock @JamesTheo @virkjay @tstarkey1212@rlj1981 #ukedchat and a lack of self-esteem leading to fearof making a mistake
20:51:07@headguruteacher
@aknill #ukedchat. Yes, it must be formal. Play, defined interms of learning, can be quite tightly managed.
20:51:10 @KerryPulleyn @rlj1981 They can be playful :) #UKedchat
20:51:11 @tstarkey1212@juleslearning That's not freedom - it's just another level of
guidance #ukedchat20:51:16 @rpd1972
@chrismcd53 #UKedchat agree, but not everyone can seethat!
20:51:20 @judeenright
@RachelOrr #ukedchat Yes, I think those who have seenearly years classes in action view it differently. Must involvestudent freedom,I feel
20:51:21@DanRavenEllison
Too many children don't have enough freedom to#playoutdoors. Gatekeepers need to unlock opportunities forthem to learn outdoors #UKedchat
20:51:25 @davidErogers
@Gwenelope @Thatch_Teach @rlj1981 @ChocoTzar@KDWScience year 8's running about the place. And wewere a '4' school #ukedchat
20:51:27 @lahewes#ukedchat when the aim becomes anything other than theplaying, it's no longer play.
20:51:37 @mberry
@rlj1981 even that's problematic - there's a learnedincompetence thing going on that discourages folk fromhaving a go @ICTmagic #UKedchat
20:51:50 @JamesTheo@truan_steve You seem to be stuck with a strange binary ofplay vs. control. Why? #ukedchat
20:52:01 @joeybagstock @Susan_Wilde @tstarkey1212 @virkjay @rlj1981
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#UKedchat sure, but often my attempts to play are deemedboring or rather 'dry', 'long', etc
20:52:07 @ukedchat10 minutes remain. Before you run away to play, vote for nextweek's #ukedchat topic. http://ukedchat.com/poll
20:52:13 @cathy_cross@JuliaHines: @Debsgf Like this year 5 maths sheet my sonreceived from a fab teacher http://twitpic.com/anw5gh#ukedchat haha love it!
20:52:13 @Susan_Wilde@tstarkey1212 @joeybagstock @virkjay @rlj1981 #ukedchatI don't think being bored is good or avoiding it is bad - do you?
20:52:16 @Debsgf@judeenright @RachelOrr it's also dependant on what theend result is and examination demands too #UKedchat
20:52:24 @MissHorsfall
@Sue_Cowley I agree! Fortunately I have a supportive SLTwho (within reason) let me get on with it as long as results are
ok #ukedchat
20:52:25 @davidErogers
Before being playful, it's vital to have good behaviour routinesand sky high expectations. also has to be some academic'meat' #UKedchat
20:52:34@Mullaney1982 #UKedchat great topic tonight. Very interesting.
20:52:46 @joeybagstock@Susan_Wilde @JamesTheo @virkjay @tstarkey1212@rlj1981 #UKedchat more likely, there's been too much to it.
20:52:52@RobAnthony01
I taught myself to program a computer by playing. 'Whathappens if I...', 'How could I...'? #UKedchat
20:52:53 @JamesTheo @lahewes So play is at odds with learning then? #ukedchat
20:53 @juleslearning
@cathy_cross play for teachers allows them same freedom tothink for themselves that we give children. As you say keypart of CPD. #ukedchat
20:53:03 @mazst#ukedchat thinking of EYFS does play always need apurpose?
20:53:05 @rlj1981
@lahewes: #ukedchat when the aim becomes anything otherthan the playing, it's no longer play.> can you explain a bitmore please?
20:53:10 @chrismcd53@MissHorsfall @rpd1972 formative assessment - clearoutcomes identified as to why play used as medium.#ukedchat
20:53:12@JamesJMatthews
Tonight's tweets are a mixture of child initiated play andchildren 'playing games' (apps, board games etc) - Not thesame thing #ukedchat
20:53:12 @ieshasmall
@ManYanaEd @JamesTheo @hrogerson related - I'mwondering if real power of play is to apply known stuff inunknown situations? #UKEdchat
20:53:13 @Ideas_Factory
You're never too old to play but you may get old if you don't.#ukedchat
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20:53:19 @ICTmagic
@mberry Is that a produce of schooling or an innate desirenot to lose face as an adult? Would make interestingresearch. @rlj1981 #ukedchat
20:53:31 @virkjay
@allicatski @joeybagstock @JamesTheo @tstarkey1212
@rlj1981 And if you aren't enjoying it you won challengeyourself. #UKedchat
20:53:37@DanRavenEllison
Teaching about the War on Terror or geopolitics? Get thisWar on Terror Board Game serious playtimehttp://www.waronterrortheboardgame.com/ #UKedchat
20:53:49 @Susan_Wilde@rlj1981 @lahewes #UKedchat v narrow definition of playthere
20:53:57 @davidErogers#UKedchat 'ers need to remember that teaching isn't bipolar.It's not 'play is great' or 'play is pants'. A little bit of both
20:53:59 @mberry @lahewes Interesting. Does this depend on who chooses theaim? If the child, maybe it can still count as play? #UKedchat
20:54 @tmeeky
@JamesJMatthews tweets are a mixture of child initiated playand children 'playing games'Not the same thing #ukedchat>no, but all playing
20:54:02 @tstarkey1212
@Susan_Wilde @joeybagstock @virkjay @rlj1981 I thinkwhen questions like that become a priority, learning suffers.#ukedchat
20:54:03 @davidErogersAnd practical jokes and staff was a big part of the@priorygeography culture ;-) #ukedchat @GeoDebs
20:54:04 @Ingotian@hrogerson @ViciaScience @debrichmond @KDWScience#ukedchat play is anything you do for fun so if its fun it counts.
20:54:05 @ICTmagic@mberry Children usually don't have the same inhibition.When & why does that change? @rlj1981 #ukedchat
20:54:13 @rlj1981Five minutes left!! Does play value the processes of learningover the outcomes for learners? #ukedchat
20:54:14 @GeoDebs@davidErogers @priorygeography Definitely. Wouldn't wantto work somewhere without humour and banter #ukedchat
20:54:27 @DanRavenEllison
RT @lahewes: #ukedchat when the aim becomes anythingother than the playing, it's no longer play. < No.. themotivation changes #UKedchat
20:54:30 @chrishildrew
@davidErogers Agree! #ukedchat twitter has a tendency torender everything as binary opposition - when it rarely reallyis!
20:54:43 @hrogerson@rlj1981 @lahewes if you look at the definition, it says playdoes not have a serious or practical purpose. #ukedchat
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20:54:48 @tstarkey1212@PeterKeal @rlj1981 Give me a definition and I'll tell you.#ukedchat
20:54:51 @JamesTheo
@virkjay @Susan_Wilde @joeybagstock @tstarkey1212
@rlj1981 So how do you know they are learning what theyneed to learn? #ukedchat
20:54:57 @gavinsmart
@CainesArcade: Love creative play! Join our#cardboardchallenge Day of Play & @imagination fdnmovement: http://www.imagination.org #ukedchat
20:55:01 @Susan_Wilde
@rlj1981 @lahewes #ukedchat I use dandelion leaves insalad & they're still weeds; if the activity's fun & creative butpurposeful it's play
20:55:03 @ViciaScience
Thanks Phil RT @floorphillaz: @ViciaScience @hrogerson
@debrichmond @KDWScience Plague Inc is really addictiveand informative! #UKedchat
20:55:04 @sidchip64
@Sue_Cowley The irony being, prob more folk learned aboutthe Nazi's rise to power becaus