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Dave MearnsPeter F. Schmid
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BEING-WITH AND BEING-COUNTER
A person-centered viewon in-depth interaction
in the therapeutic relationship
PCE 2006
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Mearns & Schmid 2
Working at Relational Depthin Counselling and Psychotherapy
Mearns, D. & Cooper, M. 2005London, Sage.
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Dave MearnsPeter F. Schmid
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BEING-WITH AND BEING-COUNTER
A person-centered viewon in-depth interaction
in the therapeutic relationship
PCE 2006
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Mearns & Schmid 4
Souveränität und Engagement(Sovereignty and Commitment). Mainz, 1991.
Autonomie und Solidarität (Autonomy and Solidarity). Köln, 1994.
Die Kunst der Begegnung (The Art of Encounter). Paderborn, 1996.
Im Anfang ist Gemeinschaft (In the Beginning there is Community). Stuttgart, 1998.
Anspruch und Antwort(Demand and Response). Wien, 2002.
Schmid, P. F.
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relationship .....
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BEING-WITH AND BEING-COUNTERA person-centered view on in-depth
interaction in the therapeutic relationship
I. From presence to dialogue:Therapy as co-creative process of personalization
II. Relational depth: The challenge of fully meeting the client
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I. From presence to dialogue:Therapy as co-creative process
of personalization
PCT – a co-created relationship therapy
More than the working alliance
Company and confrontation
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II. The challenge of meeting the client at relational depth
Challenges for the therapist
Criteria for working at relational depth
The developmental agenda for the therapist
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I. From presence to dialogue:Therapy as co-creative process
of personalization
PCT – a co-created relationship therapy
More than the working alliance
Company and confrontation
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PCT – a co-created relationship therapy
PERSON
ENCOUNTER
THOU-I-RELATIONSHIP
autonomous & relational
the Other
intersubjective, co-creative
fundamentally dialogical
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Bipolar model of psychotherapy
D. Mearns: ‘working at relational depth’;
1996; 1997; 1999; 2002a; 2002b; 2003; Mearns &
Thorne, 2000; Mearns & Cooper, 2005.
P. F. Schmid: ‘therapy as the art of not-knowing and the art of encounter’1989; 1991; 1994; 1998a; 1998b; 2002b; 2002c; 2002d; 2002e; 2003; 2006.
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Bipolar model of psychotherapy
W. Pfeiffer ‘relationship as the central effective factor in PCT’
L. Holdstock ‘interdependent, not individuocentric nature of self’
U. Binder ‘empathy versus cognitive social perspective taking’
B. Thorne ‘intimacy’
G. Barrett-Lennard ‘client-centered relational psychotherapy’
A. Bohart ‘the client as active self healer’
G. Prouty ‘pre-symbolic experiencing, contact & pre-therapy’
M. Warner ‘contact & fragile and dissociated process’
M. Cooper ‘relationally-orientated approach to therapy’
M. Behr ‘interactive resonance’
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I. From presence to dialogue:Therapy as co-creative process
of personalization
PCT – a co-created relationship therapy
More than the working alliance
Company and confrontation
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More than the ‘working alliance’
The ‘presentational level’ of self
The level of existential self-experiencing
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More than the ‘working alliance’
‘SOBER DOMINIC’ and
‘DOMINIC THE DRUNK’
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More than the ‘working alliance’
‘BOBBY’
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Relationship challenges for the therapist working with Bobby
Not to be ‘put off’ by his well developed, self-protective, anti-relationship mechanisms
Not to be frightened by Bobby
Relating at depth with both parts (fear and sadness) of his existential dialogue
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I. From presence to dialogue:Therapy as co-creative process
of personalization
PCT – a co-created relationship therapy
More than the working alliance
Company and confrontation
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Company and confrontation
Being with the client.
Being counter the client.
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Company and confrontation
The therapist is not only an alter ego.
But truly another person.
The therapist is the Other for the client.
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Company and confrontation
What are the criteria for a person-centered confrontation?
What does ‘counter’ in the therapeutic en-counter
mean?
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Company and confrontation
self awareness
experiencing
self resonance empathic resonance personal resonance
concordant
complementary
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self resonance
Cl: Shall I love or hate him? I don’t know, I am confused …
Th (thinking of his own partner):
Good question! You never know.
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Company and confrontation
self awareness
experiencing
self resonance empathic resonance personal resonance
bracket offor ‘build bridges‘
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Company and confrontation
self awareness
experiencing
self resonance empathic resonance personal resonance
bracket offor ‘build bridges‘
concordant
symbolize
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concordant empathic resonance
Cl: Shall I love or hate him? I don’t know, I am confused …
Th (primarily sensing the client’s confusion):
There is mixed feelings in you. Part of you experiences affection, part of you dislike and this is in you at one and the same time.
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Company and confrontation
self awareness
experiencing
self resonance empathic resonance personal resonance
bracket offor ‘build bridges‘
concordant
complementary
symbolize
confront
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complementary empathic resonance
Cl: Shall I love or hate him? I don’t know, I am confused …
Th (sensing primarily that the client gradually has been growing tired of the person he talks about):
… or even forget about him?
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complementary empathic resonance
Cl (hesitantly, tentatively):
I feel somewhat sorry for him, poor guy …
Th: You regret what happened, but you also seem to think it serves him right … ?
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Company and confrontation
self awareness
experiencing
self resonance empathic resonance personal resonance
bracket offor ‘build bridges‘
concordant
complementary
symbolize
confront
dialogue
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personal resonance
Cl: Shall I love or hate him? I don’t know, I am confused …
Th (personally touched by the client’s bewilderment):
… which makes me aware how much I truly hope you come to the right decision this time.
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personal resonance
Th: Do you want to see me next Tuesday at eleven?
Cl: Don’t know.
Th: ‘I just don’t know.’
(Silence of 49 seconds)
Th: Right at this point you just don’t know … whether you want to say ‘yes’ to that or not, huh? … I guess you feel so down and so awful that you just don’t know whether you can … see that far ahead. Huh?
(Silence of 1 minute 20 seconds)
Th: I’m going to give you an appointment at that time because I’d sure like to see you then. (Writing an appointment slip.)
Rogers
with ‚M
r. V
ac‘
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personal resonance
Cl (avoiding to respond to a tough question, the client has asked himself):
Big question – maybe I need another vodka before I can answer that.
Th: Dom – be here – be here drunk –but don’t play fucking games with me. Neither I nor you deserve that.
Cl (after a silence): You’re really serious about this, aren’t you?
Mearn
s w
ith ‚D
om
inic‘
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Company and confrontation
self awareness
experiencing
self resonance empathic resonance personal resonance
bracket offor ‘build bridges‘
concordant
complementary
symbolize
confront
dialogue
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BEING-WITH AND BEING-COUNTERA person-centered view on in-depth
interaction in the therapeutic relationship
I. From presence to dialogue:Therapy as co-creative process of personalization
II. Relational depth: The challenge of fully meeting the client
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II. Relational depth: The challenge of fully meeting
the client
Challenges for the therapist
Criteria for working at relational depth
The developmental agenda for the therapist
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Challenges for the therapist
Criteria for working at relational depth
The developmental agenda for the therapist
II. Relational depth: The challenge of fully meeting
the client
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Challenges for the therapist
Not to be relationally negated by the self-protective processes of the client
Struggling to meet the different parts of the client that may have come to personify different facets of the conflict and offer relational depth to all
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Challenges for the pc therapist
Fragile process (Warner, 2000)
Dissociative process (Warner, 2000)
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CLIENT’S CLIENT’S CLIENT’S
‘PROBLEMS’ ‘PROCESSES’ ‘EXISTENTIAL
‘PROCESS’
Challenges for the pc therapist
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Challenges for the pc therapist
Not to be relationally negated by the self-protective processes of the client
Struggling to meet the different parts of the client that may have come to personify different facets of the conflict and offer relational depth to all
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Models for describing change dynamics
Rogers: Conflict between ‘the Self as it has actualized to this point’ and the‘continuing promptings of the actualizing tendency’.
Festinger: ‘Dissonance’ model.
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Challenges for the therapist
Criteria for working at relational depth
The developmental agenda for the therapist
II. Relational depth: The challenge of fully meeting
the client
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What confrontation & dialogue are not
Expert behavior
Process direction
Satisfaction of the therapist’s needs
Diagnosis
Blaming, insinuating
Attacking resistance
‘Self disclosure’
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Criteria for working at relational depth
The overall criterion:
The therapist is devoting their whole awareness to the service of the Other.
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Criteria for working at relational depth
Existentiality
Freedom of choice
Immediacy
Relationship-centeredness
Mutuality
Openness to risk
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Criteria for working at relational depth
Spontaneity
Addressing all parts of the Self
Co-reflectiveness
Quality
Contextuality
Awareness of power
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Challenges for the therapist
Criteria for working at relational depth
The developmental agenda for the therapist
II. Relational depth: The challenge of fully meeting
the client
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The developmental agenda for the therapist
Broadening the self that is available in the therapy room – ‘configurations’.
Turning self-experiences into ‘existential touchstones’.
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BEING-WITH AND BEING-COUNTERA person-centered view on in-depth
interaction in the therapeutic relationship
I. From presence to dialogue:Therapy as co-creative process of personalization
II. Relational depth:The challenge of fully meeting the client
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Person-Centered and
Experiential Psychotherapies
Journal of the
World Association for
Person-Centered and
Experiential Psychotherapy
(WAPCEPC)