bill cosby accusations and the eternal dharma

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BILL COSBY AND THE SANAATANA DHARMA MATRIX The following is a pictorial representation of the famous Sanskrit sloka, considered to be the essence of Vedic dharma, and highlighted by Kanchi Mahaperiyavaa (the sage of Kanchi) in one of his discourses (see Daivatthin kural). SATYAM BROOYAAT PRIYAM BROOYAAT Truth Untruth Pleasant Unpleasant सय यात िय यात यात सय अियम l िय च नानृत यात एष धममः सनातनः ll (न अनृतम ) Satyam brooyaat priyam brooyaat na brooyaat sataym apriyam l Priyam ca naanurtam brooyaat esha dharmah sanaatanahaa ll (na anrutam) Speak the truth, speak the pleasant, do not speak the unpleasant truth Do not also speak the pleasant untruth (anrutam) This is the eternal dharma YES NO NO

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The accusations made against Mr. Bill Cosby are discussed here briefly within the context of a famous Sanskrit verse, taken to be the quintessential teaching of the Vedas (Sanatana dharma, or the eternal dharma).

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  • BILL COSBY AND THE SANAATANA DHARMA MATRIX

    The following is a pictorial representation of the famous Sanskrit sloka, considered

    to be the essence of Vedic dharma, and highlighted by Kanchi Mahaperiyavaa (the

    sage of Kanchi) in one of his discourses (see Daivatthin kural).

    SATYAM BROOYAAT PRIYAM BROOYAAT

    Truth Untruth

    Pleasant

    Unpleasant

    l

    ll ( )

    Satyam brooyaat priyam brooyaat na brooyaat sataym apriyam l Priyam ca naanurtam brooyaat esha dharmah sanaatanahaa ll (na anrutam)

    Speak the truth, speak the pleasant, do not speak the unpleasant truth Do not also speak the pleasant untruth (anrutam) This is the eternal dharma

    YES

    NO

    NO

  • We must be truthful. But we also have a duty to be pleasant. We cannot be truthful and unpleasant. Truthfulness at the cost of being pleasant is NOT a virtue. Nor can we be pleasant and untruthful. The latter two conducts are prohibited by the scriptures (Sanatana dharma, or the eternal dharma) but are rarely understood and, upon reflection, will be seen to be at the very root of many personal, social, and political problems that we see around us.

    Here's the link to a recent article on the accusations made against Bill Cosby. http://www.cnn.com//celebrity/bill-cosby-future/index.html

    If every accuser had followed this teaching, we would not be where we are. There is nothing really for Mr. Cosby to do ANYMORE. There is no reputation to defend. He should just make peace with His God and be done with. If the accusations are true and he wishes to confess publicly that is his choice. If not take it to his grave and let the Lord decide.

    Let the immortal verses of the Gita, chapter 9, verses 30 and 31, be the guide. Even the greatest sinner is redeemed, says Krishna in these two verses, once that person surrenders and starts worshipping Me. That Me can be Jesus, or Allah, or Jehovah, or Buddha. The results are the same.

    P. S, We do not know the truth. We also do NOT have to seek the truth in this case. If this ends up in

    court, which is highly unlikely, that is a different matter. Then it is up to the judge and jury. But, in the

    interim, everybody else needs to just shut up and let Mr. Cosby deal with whatever he has been dealt

    with.

    How will we remember Bill Cosby? - CNN.com

    It's as if the other Bill Cosby never existed. The admired Cosby of many years has been almost forgotten

    amid the allegations against him.

    cnn.com|By By Todd Leopold, CNN

    The following comment was added around 6:30 am on

    2/25/2015 to the above post.

  • I had an interesting chat with a friend about this Sanatana dharma matrix

    after it was posted. He wanted to know why "NO" was not added to the box

    Unpleasant-Untruth.

    Actually, EVERYONE, EVEN A CHILD, knows that we must NOT speak the

    untruth AND the unpleasant. There is no need to put a NO in that box. What

    we, even adults, do NOT know is that

    a) we should NOT speak unpleasant truths and

    b) we should NOT speak the pleasant untruths.

    Hence, these two boxes are highlighted with NO. Even adults indulge in them.

    We mistakenly think that we should always speak the truth, even if it is

    unpleasant. Our Sanatana dharma says NO to it.

    We indulge in pleasant lies (or untruths) when it is convenient to us, although

    we know it is wrong. Our Sanatana dharma again says NO to it. Hence, these

    two boxes are highlighted with a NO. Highlighting the untruth-unpleasant box

    with a NO will actually dilute the message of the other two NO boxes.

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    The above was posted on my Facebook page (in OurGitagroup) on

    February 24, 2015.

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    2 hrs Edited (as of 3:00 PM, 2/24/2015)

    THE SANAATANA DHARMA MATRIX

  • This is a pictorial representation of the famous Sanskrit sloka, considered to be the essence of

    Vedic dharma, and highlighted by Kanchi Mahaperiyavaa (the sage of Kanchi) in one of his

    discourses (see Daivatthin kural).

    Sudha Sekhar and Satyavani Kakarla like this.

    Vj Laxmanan This was prompted by the discussion in another post today about "How will we remember Bill Cosby?".

    Vj Laxmanan 3 hrs Edited (Posted at 12:00 noon on 2/24/2015)

    TILL MY EARS TURN SOUR

    In Tamil there is a saying which is mentioned when you get tired of hearing the same thing over

    and over and over and over again. They say "till the ears turn sour". In Marathi also, we say the

    same, "kaan pikle - the ears have turned sour." So, it is with the following saying, or the Sanskrit

  • verse, which describes the eternal (sanatana) dharma. I am sure many of your ears have turned

    sour after my posts on this topic. Nonetheless, it popped again in my memory after I read, "How

    will we remember Bill Cosy?"

    For all that happened, and for all that is still to happen, there is only one teaching to follow - the

    teachings of sanatana dharma. Here it is

    l

    ll ( )

    Satyam brooyaat priyam brooyaat na brooyaat sataym apriyam l

    Priyam ca naanurtam brooyaat esha dharmah sanaatanahaa ll (na anrutam)

    Speak the truth, speak the pleasant, do not speak the unpleasant truth

    Do not also speak the pleasant untruth (anrutam)

    This is the eternal dharma

    Here's the Bill Cosby article again. http://www.cnn.com//celebrity/bill-cosby-future/index.html

    If every accuser had followed this teaching, we would not be where we are. There is nothing

    really for Mr. Cosby to do ANYMORE. There is no reputation to defend - not anymore -

    whatever was there is ALL GONE. He should just make peace with His God and be done with. If

    the accusations are true and he wishes to confess publicly that is his choice. If not take it to his

    grave and let the Lord decide.

    Let the immortal verses of the Gita, chapter 9, verses 30 and 31, be the guide. Even the greatest

    sinner is redeemed, says Krishna in these two verses, once that person surrenders and starts

    worshipping Me. That Me can be Jesus, or Allah, or Jehovah, or Buddha. The results are the

    same.

    P. S, We do not know the truth. We also do NOT have to seek the truth in this case. If this ends

    up in court, which is highly unlikely, that is a different matter. Then it is up to the judge and jury.

    But, in the interim, everybody else needs to just shut up and let Mr. Cosby deal with whatever he

    has been dealt with.

    How will we remember Bill Cosby? - CNN.com

    It's as if the other Bill Cosby never existed. The admired Cosby of many years has been almost forgotten

    amid the allegations against him.

    cnn.com|By By Todd Leopold, CNN

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    The following post was made on February 25, 2015 at 6:48

    am to add to the above discussion

    Vj Laxmanan 2 mins (as of 6:50 am on 2/25/2015)

    SATYAM AND ANRUTAM

    In the famous sloka about Sanatana dharma (see matrix presentation in yesterday's post, 2/24/2015), we encounter the words satyam (which means truth) and the word anrutam which is the opposite, which I had translated as untruth. Is Na Anrutam (double negation) the same as Satyam?

    l

    ll ( = +)

    Satyam brooyaat priyam brooyaat na brooyaat satyam apriyam l Priyam ca naanrutam brooyaat esha dharmah sanaatanahaa ll

    The word anrutam ( = + ) is actually the opposite of rutam (the "ru" is pronounced as in "rishi" and Hrusheekesha). There is a famous mantra from the Rig Veda, given below, which has both rutam and satyam. This mantra is also part of the Mahanarayana Upanishad and the daily Sandhya vandanam namaskara mantras,

    l

    ll

  • Rutam (or ritam) satyam param Brahma Purusham Krishna pingalam l Oordhva-retam Viruupaaksham Vishwaroopaaya namo namahaa ll

    So, now the question arises what is the difference between rutam (or ritam) and satyam and can we just translate anrutam (anritam) as untruth and be done with. Actually, the significance of rutam (ritam) is much deeper.

    What exactly do we mean by "the truth" or "satyam"?

    If you think about it, we are referring to something that is spoken, the words used to express ourselves. Is that all there is to being "truthful"? What about our thoughts and our actions? Is there anything in our thoughts and actions, if not words, that may be lacking. Actually, there are many verses that talk about what is known as "manasikam", of the mind or manas, as opposed to vaachikam, or kayam, which has to do with the speech, or bodily actions. At the start of our prayers, the priest will usually ask us to chant the following sloka, or mantra, as a self-purificatory gesture.

    l

    ll

    ll

    Maanasam vaachikam paapam karmaNaa yat samupaarjitam l Shree Raama smaraNenaiva vyapohati na samshayahaa ll Shree Raam Raam Raam ll

    We say the above and then follow it with utterring the name of the Lord, Raama, three times. The verse means that all our accumulated sins, be they committed by words, or our thoughts (maanasam) and actions (karmaNaa), are instantly eradicated when we think of the Lord as Raama. This is reinforced by utterring the naama three times.

    Thus, the difference between ritam (or rutam) and satyam is the difference between our words and our thoughts and actions. Sometimes we lie with our words. But more often we lie not with words but with our thoughts and actions. We promise to do something, with words, and then do NOT follow it

  • up with our actions. We say one thing, with words, while thinking just the opposite in our minds and almost negating ourselves as we speak. We know that we do not mean what we say.

    This is the domain of "ritam" and so anrutam, or anritam, in the Sanatana dharma statement is a very powerful one. The prohibition against pleasant lies extends to all our words, thoughts, and actions, that are superficially pleasant but which are not meant to be. They are convenient escapes from the "evil" or the "paapam" that lies hidden within us.

    Well, I did find one discussion that supports the above distinction between ritam (or rutam) and satyam. Here's the link. http://www.advaita-vedanta.org//adv/1998-April/008376.html

    Hari Bol! Govinda Govindaa!! Om Namo NaraayaNaaya !!!

    Brahman and Ritam

    advaita-vedanta.org

    Vj Laxmanan Here's one more discussion https://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index...

    Ritham Sathyam ParamBrahma Purusham Krishna Pingalam,...

    in.answers.yahoo.com

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