born this way? ideologies of eros in plato’s symposium
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Born This Way?
Ideologies of eros in Plato’s Symposium
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Journal Prompt
Does Plato's Symposium seem to validate or to undercut Foucault and/or Halperin
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Ancient Sexuality and Gender 3
Discussion
the aristoph myth implies an essentialist view of sexuality
they all have different views
male biased heavenly – nothing
female earthly aphrod
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Ancient Sexuality and Gender 4
Agenda
Writer’s Corner …Name That Mistake
Recap and UpdateSexual “Codes” & Sexualities in Aeschines and
Plato
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Writer’s Corner …
Name That Mistake
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The Ancient Grecian play Medea caused a tremendous stir when it was first performed. The evil that I do, I understand full well,But a passion drives me greater than my will.
unsubstantiated claim
dropped quote, MLA citation issues
wordy
ital
Plagiarism!
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Recap and Update
Sexual “Codes” & Sexualities in Aeschines and Plato
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Is ____ gay?
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Misgolas
“He is bent on that sort of thing [pederasty] like one possessed,
and is accustomed always to have about him [male] singers or
cithara-players” (41)
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Timarchus
“Timarchus was … just the person for the thing that Misgolas wanted to do, and Timarchus wanted to have done.” (41)
“What shall we say when a young man … keeps the most expensive flutegirls and
harlots? When he gambles and pays nothing himself but another man always
pays for him?” (75)
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Plato’s Symposium …
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Symposium: Erotic Dichotomiesmale female
Uranian (“Heavenly”) Pandemian (“Vulgar”)
spiritual carnal
male-pederastic “other” (lesbian, heteroerotic)
temperate intemperate
asymmetrical symmetrical
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Symposium: Interlocking Arguments
Speaker SpeechPhaedrus Eros the AncientPausanias the two loves
Eryximachus [ditto]Aristophanes “my other half”
Agathon Eros the YouthfulSocrates Eros the daimōn
Alcibiades Socrates’ temperate intemperance
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Ancient Sexuality and Gender 16
Erotic Law Codes? (Pausanias’ Speech)
Nomos =“Law”“Convention”
“Law Codes”Elsewhere
Elis, Boeotia Ionia
“Here”
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Aristophanes’ Myth
Essentialist or Constructionist?
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Is Diotimian erōs Pederasty?
And is it honorable?