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Page 1: C-Haines, atmospheric stability, and fire-atmosphere ...€¦ · Fire-atmosphere interactions •A fire obviously affects the atmosphere around it •Heat and moisture release warms

C-Haines, atmospheric stability, and fire-atmosphere interactions

Graham Mills

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Outline

• What’s C-Haines?

• Indices versus ingredients

• Atmospheric stability

• What’s fire-atmosphere interactions?

• When might C-Haines work?

• What limits operational use of atmospheric stability measures?

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The Haines Index

• Developed by Don Haines

• Two stations, two year’s data

• Intended to pick the 5% of days when erratic fire behaviour likely

• Caveat : only plume-dominated fires

• Some relationship with area burnt in Idaho, Florida, and Tasmania

• Less-good in southwest US, Victoria, WA

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Haines Index

Stability Term:

850-700 hPa Temperature Difference

Stability

Score

Moisture term:

850 hPa Dewpoint Depression

Moisture

Score

< 6C 1 < 6C 1

6 - 10C 2 6 - 12C 2

> 10C 3 > 12C 3

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Expand the scale? Lapse rate component and Haines Index

y = 0.5x - 2

0

1

2

3

4

5

6

2 4 6 8 10 12 14

Lapse rate (850-700 hPa)

Ha

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Dewpoint depression component and Haines Index

y = 0.3333x - 1

0

1

2

3

4

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0 2 4 6 8 10 12 14 16 18 20 22 24 26 28 30 32

850 hPa Dewpoint Depression

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Characteristics

• Little diurnal cycle

• Solid annual cycle

• Can “spike” or can remain high for some days

• Climate is regional, and this is probably implicit in local fuel and fire response

• Usually high on very active fire/pyrocumulus days

• Case studies show some active fires in lower/decreasing FDI but extreme C-Haines

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What does it mean? Potter and Haines argued

• That the lower Haines level should be above the mixed layer

• That the Haines Index is not valid if the lower level is in the mixed layer

• That the Haines Index is only valid for plume-dominated fires

• That the HI showed when the atmosphere was sufficiently unstable to mix dry air to the fire

• They did not propose any physical processes that would explain this mixing

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MIXED LAYER

TEMPERATURE

HE

IG

HT

INVERSION LAYER

“SUBSIDENCE” LAYER

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MIXED LAYER

TEMPERATURE

HE

IG

HT

INVERSION LAYER

“SUBSIDENCE” LAYER

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Index versus Ingredients

• Index : an easily-derived quantity that has some statistical relationship to a desired forecast quantity

• Ingredients: instead of combining everything into one number, look for the physically meaningful quantities that all have to be valid in order for a given event to occur

• Eg : Thunderstorm forecasting

• Meteorological focussing of ingredients

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Index versus ingredients

• Ingredients approach is less categorical

• Greater understanding

• Indices can be “just” wrong

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MIXED LAYER

TEMPERATURE

HE

IG

HT

INVERSION LAYER

“SUBSIDENCE” LAYER

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MIXED LAYER

TEMPERATURE

HE

IG

HT

INVERSION LAYER

“SUBSIDENCE” LAYER

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Fire-atmosphere interactions

• A fire obviously affects the atmosphere around it

• Heat and moisture release warms and moistens the local environment

• This will affect the winds in some way

• What the feedbacks will be are less obvious, as they will depend on the “Ingredients”

• Eg:

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Simple plume dominated case

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Wind-driven ellipse (Coen et al 2013)

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Coupled studies

• Simpson and Sharples

• Kiefer et al

• Thurston?

• Peace

• All show great stuff - BUT do they tell us anything about atmospheric stability and fire atmosphere interactions?

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Fire-atmosphere interactions

• From a forecast point of view, a more stringent (personal) requirement: “THAT FIRE-ATMOSPHERE INTERACTIONS PROVIDE A FEEDBACK ON FIRE BEHAVIOUR”

• So when might C-Haines be useful?

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Relationship with FFDI?

• High temperatures at 850 hPa - correlate to high FFDI (T and RH) ? - correlate to high Haines-A ? - correlate to high Haines-B ?

• Low dewpoints at 850 hPa - correlate to high FFDI (RH) ? - correlate to high Haines-B ?

• So does (C-)Haines add anything to FFDI?

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Correlation coefficient (x100) at the selected locations for the relationship between the upper 40% of FFDI values correlated with C-HAINES > 4.

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When to use?

• Perhaps concentrate on the medium-ish FDI events

• Use local climatology percentile values to indicate relevance

• Quite a few examples of unusually lively prescribed burns, or wildfires after peak of FDI activity, but still >95th percentile CH

• Quite a few of these are elevated above the (generally) lower-elevation AWS (intriguing)

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Alternative stability measures

• Ascent and descent energies (Potter)

• Stability across entrainment layer (Mills)

• Fire-CAPE (Potter)

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CAPE

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FIRE-CAPE (Potter)

• Add the temperature and moisture increment due to the fire to environmental values and recalculate CAPE

• It cannot be less than CAPE

• Is it relevant if there is no condensation?

• How might it affect a fire?

• There’s very limited evidence of correlation association with fire activity

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Bringing this together

• C-Haines is an index

• Apart from Tasmania, there’s no statistical evidence for a relation with fire activity in Australia

• There is just enough examples of fires in low FDI/high CH environments to make me think there still might be something there

• We don’t know what the physical processes are that might make fires more active in high CH environments

• We don’t have the fire activity data-bases to do a statistical analysis (ideally down to hourly measures)

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A way forward (?)

• Trial use of C-Haines and/or Fire-CAPE and/or …. with systematic evaluation against fire activity (incl null case)

• Much more research to understand vertical fire-atmosphere coupling processes - might lead to ingredients approaches - ultimately operational coupled forecasts

• Better fire behaviour data bases

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