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Let's Make People Better VEDIC

Vedic Education

For Divine

Inspiration

& Culture (VEDIC)

SSMY Session 1

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Themes to be Discussed

81 • Introduction

2 • Proves for existence of God

3 • Unanswered questions of

lifeand universe

4 • Statements of scientists

5 • Scriptural statements6 • Universal govt

7 • Duties of scientists

8 •

Getting eyes to see God



Introduction

a. How does existence of God

matter to me?i.Religion and health

ii.Problems in society

1.Crimes

2.Suicidesiii.Material problems doesn’t have

material solution

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One rape every 29 minutes

One murder every 19 minutes

One kidnapping every 23 minutes

One molestation every 15 minutes

One violent crime 3 minutesOne cheating case every 1 minutes

One dacoity every 2 hours

One riots every 9 minutes

One arson every hour

One the!t every 2 minutes

One property crime every minute 5

One crime against children every 35 minutes

"rimes in #ndia

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$uicides in #ndia

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% Out o! every three cases o! suicide reported every 15 minutes in

#ndia& one is committed 'y a youth in the age group o! 15 to 29(

% #n the )nion Territory o! *ondicherry& every month at least 15

youths 'et+een the ages o! 15 and 25 commit suicide(

,erala& the country-s !irst !ully literate state& has the highest

num'er o! suicides( $ome 32 people commit suicide in ,erala

every day(

Total number of suicide cases recorded in the whole of

India in 2002 was 154,000. 12



Psychologist Mathew urien of the !outhern Medical

"entre, #angalore,

$In this modern age,$ %r urien says, $children are not

brought u& &eacefully. They are under &ressure to

deli'er at school( they are under &ressure to a&&ear forcom&etiti'e e)aminations. After they reach puberty,

no one in the family gives them any advice about

the meaning of life."13



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*+-P -I/

Material Problems and solution

1 ist at least 10 &roblems of the Modern

!ociety li3e !uicide, Pollution etc.

2 ist the ste&s ta3en by scientists or the

go'ernment to set right the &roblem.

Mention whether the material solution was

&ermanent( if not mention why

4 hat is the s&iritual solution for the same&roblem

5 Ma3e a table of all the abo'e.

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!elfishness,

ac3 of law

and order

T6 murder

scenes,7rustration

%e&ression, Inferiority

com&le), Percei'ed failures

in life, %issatisfaction, #eing

o'er ambitious

8on9coo&eration

from nature,

Misuse of natural

resources

#ro3en relationshi&s,"om&ounded

misunderstanding, Intolerance,

-nlimited e)&ectations

"ut9throat

com&etition

for money

"hi'alrous, e)em&lary

leader guided by

6aishna'as or brahmanas

6alue education from

childhood as in a

guru3ul.

Mantra meditation gi'es

&eace of mind, inner :oy,

self9confidence and lo'e

for *od.

Performing san3irtan ya:na in

this age to &lease *od( when

the ord is satisfied, ;e will

bestow &ros&erity through

nature.

!eeing the &artner as a&art9and9&arcel of *od(

earning tolerance

through chanting.

earning contentment

by lo'ing and ser'ing

*od.16

+ i th ll ti f th i d b



7actories releasing

&oisonous gases, acids, etc.,

without bothering about the

effect on the &oor &ublic

*reed for

<uic3money

*reed for &roducing tobacco =man will

not die without a cigarette but he will

die without grains and similar

unnecessary items in the fields that

are meant for &roducing &addy

or3ing for 1> hrs

or more &er day,

Trying to do too

many things

Lack of love, careand attention;

Meaninglessnessin life

Illicit sexualrelationships dueto free mixing ofmen and women

+emo'ing the &ollution of the mind by

chanting ;are rishna. !ince &eo&le?s

minds are &olluted by lust, greed,

&ride, en'y, anger, illusion etc that

manifest e)ternally as trouble caused

by one li'ing being towards another

earning about the Truths

of life and life?s actual goal @ rishna "onsciousness.

*i'ing u& wor3aholic &assion(

e)&eriencing real freedom by

calming the mind by chanting

;are rishna.

Producing grains and leading

a *od9centered life( *i'ing u&

greed for &roducing things

that harm the body

7ollowing the laws of *od(&racticing seeing other men?s

wi'es as one?s mother

=Amatra'at &ara dareshuB?.

earning about the goal of human

life( re:oicing in the com&any of

lo'ing de'otees in 'arieties of

rishna conscious engagements.17

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*reed for &ower,

resources,

domination,

re'enge etc.

"ra'ing for &osition and

fame, %ominating mentality,considering oeself the

center of the whole world

ld men and

women are seen

as useless

burden on society

8on9coo&eration

from nature

ac3 of go'ernmental

control in enforcing law and

order( Cggression and

&assion of men( ust

-nregulated eating =:un3 foods,

drin3s, slee&ing at odd

hours=wor3ing on changing shifts,

recreation habits =smo3ing, drin3ing,e)cessi'e T6 watching etc

.earning that /od is the

real master and center o!

everyone0s love& +orship

and service

$topping slaughterhouses

+here co+s are killed in

millions $topping a'ortion

+hich is no less than murder(

eviving the spiritual culture

that has mutual respect& love

and trust& speci!ically respect

!or the elders(

*rotect +omen& disallo+ing !ree

miing o! man and +oman& learning

,rishna conscious spiritual culture to

transcend 'odily consciousness(

eing regulated in eating&sleeping and recreation and

chanting are ,rishna to attain

purity(

,rishna conscious

communism cancreate the 'est rule(

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or religion& /od is at the

'eginning !or science&/od is at the end(

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Introduction

b. Qui !"uestions a#out $ife and

ori%in&i. Thestic point of vie

1.!eton story

ii."theistic point of vie

iii.#nseen can be seen throughseen

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'(o$e )$ass *iscussion +as,! 5 minutes&

$hat gives you faith that there mustbe a %od ho controls everything inthis orld&

Tell as many reasons as possible hy

you believe in the e'istence of %od.

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Earth

Sir Isaac Newton said :

I do not !now what may appear to

the world, but to myself I seem to

have been li!e a boy playing by thesea shore, and diverting myself in

now and then finding a smoother

pebble or a prettier shell than

ordinary, whilst the great ocean of

truth lay all undiscovered beforeme.

Ha-e .ou (eardt(eStor. of (ow

Sir /saac 0ewtonro-ed Godsexistence to (ist(eistic friend?

#$

%ass: &'$( metric tons

Speed around the Sun :

$(&,((( !mph

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i% an%

/s t(is reasona#$e?

Zero Volume

InfniteDensity

Infnite

Temperature

S/0G/+Y Mat(ematica$ imossi#i$it.

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+(ere is no $awma,er

/s t(is reasona#$e?

6a w o f Gra -i t . 8 o ur 6aw s o f + (e r mo d . nami c

s

e + i t ius94ode

$a w

1 $ane tar . 1os i t ions

0ew t o n:s 6aw s o f Mo t

)on ser -a t ion

6a w s4o. $e:s 6aw of

Gase

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Proves for existence of God

a; *esi%n

i.(ird and "eroplane

ii.$hale and Submarine

T2!Si%ns of /nte$$i%ence #e(ind existence 9<n%ineerin% #e(ind cosmos&



Although we may not have seen the personality of God withour eyes directly, there are innumerable evidences to prove

God’s existence from the things that we see around us.2D



* e s i % n e r 0o *esi%ner

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*esi%ner 0 o * e si %ne r

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#; rtistr.

i. Rose )Painted* paper* real+

ii.Colorful birds

iii.,ibrant -shes

iv.(eautiful "nimals

v.!atural landscapes vs modern

paintings




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;ill the

actual rose

not re<uire a

!ar more

intelligent

designer=

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Artist: Leonardo

da Vinci

%ona )isa

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)andscape

Artist: David Copenhagen42



Artist: John

Green

)andscape

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Who is theARTIST?

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c; )ontro$$ers(i

i. Satellite and earth

ii.Solar system


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Earth

Earth21

%ass: &'$(

Speed around the

Sun: $(&,((( !mph

metric tons

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Satellite

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Satellite

Monitoring

oundtheclock critical o'servation

o! the critical parameters5



Critical Parameters to monitor

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21MassE >)10

!&eed around the

!unE 10>,000 3m&h

metric tons

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This most 'eauti!ulsystem o! the sun&

planets& and comets

could only proceed!rom the counsel and

dominion o! an

intelligent and

po+er!ul eing>55



>This eing

governs all things&not as the soul o! the

+orld& 'ut as .ord

over all& and on

account o! is

dominion e is to 'ecalled .ord /od&

)niversal uler(56




d; /nte$$i%ence

i.(rain and Supercomputer




%e&t. of Crtificial Intelligence, Massachusetts Institute of Technology,

-!C

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/r. Tony (u0on(ritish Psychologist* educator

author.61



$ill the uman (rain not need

a superintelligent designer& 62



.ike+ise& +e see

+onder!ul things

created 'y man(64



$omeone

manu!actured it

$leek "ar 65



$omeone designed it?legant ;atch67



@rchitectural:arvel$omeoneerected it

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$kyscraperuilding$omeone 'uilt it

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;onder!ul$culpture$omeonecarved it

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@ny

"reation

#mplies a71



$houldn0t thisuniverse have a

super intelligentcreator

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f; =rder and Harmon.

i."tomic structure

ii.R!" and /!"

iii./i4erent body parts

iv.airs on head

v.(one cells and s5in cells

vi.Solar system




*e see

order and

systematicarrangement

in theuniverse+

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Oxford dictionary meaning of the word ‘COSMOS’

AN ORDERLY HARMONO!S SYS"EMA"C !N#ERSE

)) > ))S+)+<

+=M/)S+)+

<

S=SYS+<M

0

*0

"ma0ing 6rder7

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/f traAc o$iceman contro$s t(e traAc of-e(ic$es



ALL $LANE"S ARE%LOA"N& L'E

S(A)S O% CO""ON*

<<@ Y= +)

-e(ic$esB

'(o contro$s t(e traAc of re-o$-in%$anets?

*++N A $ER%EC""RA%%C CON"ROLMECHANSM

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%; +remendous ener%.i.Sun

ii.3lectron and nucleus

1."tomic bomb

2.!uclear bomb


+<M<0*=S



Energy emitted ,y -.n / -ec i- greater

than the amo.nt of energy h.man -0ecie-ha- con-.med thro.gho.t it- entire hi-tory

<0<GY

+(e cost of $i%(tin% a stadium for one w(o$e

ni%(t durin% a cric,et matc( is se-era$ $a,(ruees;0ow consider $i%(tin% an entire state or countr.for one wee, or one mont(;

+(is can %i-e us an idea (ow muc( we wou$d

e(ind t(e tremendous ener%.B t(ere must #e anner%etic @ersonB w(o is t(e ossessor of a$$ ener%ies

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(; Stuendous dimensionsi. Solar system

ii.#niverse

iii.Stars at 8lac light year





i; =r%anisation and craftmans(i

!in nature&

i.!anotechnology1.(anyan tree

2.Se9uoia tree

ii.Social organisation

1.oney (eesiii."rchitecture

1.Spider eb

2.oneycomb

:.Termite hills




A big banyan tree in a small banyan seed!!!

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6R%"!<S"T<6! CR"=TSM"!S<P



S=)/ =G0/S+/=0M=0GS+ H=0<Y <<S )H/+<)+

S/ = S@/*<S

MYS+<Y = G<

0Y0 +<< <@+ /0 SM S<<*

+/S+Y /0 =*S )<+/=0

S!$ER) OR&ANSA"ON RE1!RES

A S!$ER) OR&ANSER82




D; aws !@(.sicsB c(emistr.B

mat(ematics9 36 scientiEc

constants 9 recise mat(ematica$

accurac.&

i. >as of thermodynamics

ii.>a of gravitation

iii."erodynamics lasiv.>as of mechanics

v.>as of motion

vi.Periodic la


<<0 /0S<0S/< M++<



E#EN A ROADS&N "HA" RE&!LA"ES "RA%%C HAS A

OR&NA"OR AND CON"ROLLER

)H<M/) <<M<0+S 0G<M<0+ /SF+H< @</=*/) ' 0*

0=+ F+H< @</=*/) )H0)<

=<YS *</0/+< 0+'S

'S G=<0/0G +H< 0/<S< =MS9+=M/) S@H<< += S@<9G)+/) S@H<<

'S G=<0/0G H<+B /GH+ 0*G/+Y

'S = @HYS/)SB )H<M/S+YBM+H<M+/)SB +H<M=*Y0M/)SB <+);

πσ

αα

βχφ

γη

ϕκ

λν

βχφ

πσ

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) f Can las e'ist ithout



)aws of

%echanics

Can las e'ist ithout

a >a ma5er &

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,; /rreduci#$e com$exit.i.Cell

ii.uman eyes

iii.(acterial ?agellum




o+ simple is asingle cell =

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Once thought to 'e a

simple 'ag o! chemicals&the cell is no+ understood

to 'e an ela'orate systemo! molecular machinery

that surpasses a moderncity in compleity(

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Human Eye



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Complexity of our eyes



%id you 3now that the eye has 40,000,000 ner'eendings, the focusing muscles mo'e an estimated100,000 times a day, and the retina contains1D,000,000 light sensiti'e cells

"harles %arwin said, in his boo3 FThe origin of s&eciesG,

cha&ter >

$To su&&ose that the eye, with all its inimitablecontri'ances for ad:usting the focus to differentdistances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for

the correction of s&herical and chromatic aberration,could ha'e been formed by natural selection, seems, Ifreely confess, absurd in the highest &ossible degree.$

p y y

an such complexity come by chanc1



?vidence !or #ntelligent Design is o'vious upon close

eamination o! any mechanical machine( The concept and

design inherent in a machine& +hether simple or comple& is

sel!evident( ;hether a machine is high <uality or lo+ <uality&

its designer is 'oth necessary and apparent( #n!ormation

Theory states that concept and design can only result !rom amind( ?ven the diminished <uality o! a poorly constructed

machine cannot o'scure the necessity o! an intelligent

designer(

ro!" #ichael $" %ehe

ehi'h niversit* %ethela+* A11

ro! #ichael $ %ehe



:achines are ,purpose!ul a''re'ates o!

+atter that* utili-in' ener'* per!or+speci!ic tas.s", y this authoritative

de!inition& living systems are also recogniEed

as machines( @ living organism !ul!ills the

de!inition o! a machine all the +ay do+n to the

molecular level(

ro!" #ichael $" %ehe

ehi'h niversit* %ethela+* A

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#?D)"#.?

"O:*.?F#TG

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Irreducibly complex system



Irreducibly complex system

mean a single system

composed o! several+ellmatched& interacting

parts that contri'ute to the

'asic !unction& +herein the

removal o! any one o! the

parts causes the system toe!!ectively cease

!unctioning(

:ichael ehe&

iochemist&.ehigh )niversity

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acterial lagellum at +ork



#t re<uires over 5 di!!erent protein parts !or operation(

acterial lagellum at +ork

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DA@

/yrase16



#! it ld ' d t t d th t



#! it could 'e demonstrated that

any comple organ eisted +hichcould not possi'ly have 'een

!ormed 'y numerous& successive&slight modi!ications& my theory

+ould a'solutely 'reak do+n(

Charles Dar/in18

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Unanswered questions of life and universe

a.6riginb.Purpose

i."ll machines

T3!'(er does modern scientiEc researc(es stand ti$$

now in order to ex$ain t(e resence of inte$$i%ence?&



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+wo fundamenta$ Questions



(e ha2e a,-o3.te3y no ex0erience of any o,4ect or-y-tem coming a,o.t ,y chance+

(hy and how then can we a--.me that the entire

.ni2er-e with a33 it- harmony5 order and -tr.ct.redorgani-ation came a,o.t ,y chance 6

MLLON DOLLAR 1!ES"ONS

1& 'H+ /S +H< =/G/0 = +H<

0/<S< ?2& 'H+ /S +H< @@=S< =+H/S

)=M@/)+<* 0/<S< ?

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*id e-er.t(in% start from aIi% #an% or a Ii% #rain ?



i% #an% or a i% #rain ?

According to the big bang- theory, everything began from

a point of infinite temperature, infinite density, infinitesimalsie, a point that is physically unrealisable, mathematically

indescribable, beyond all conceptions of space and time.-

It should be emphasied

that no theory of the origin ofsolar system has as yet won

general acceptance. All

involve highly improbable

assumptions./ Encyclopaedia 0ritannica

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Any machine5 com0.ter5 ,.i3ding5 e2en a 0en or 0enci3 ha- ama7er or de-igner+ Logica33y the far more com03ex and

awe-ome .ni2er-e m.-t ha2e a-.0er8inte33igent de-igner and 0rod.cer+114



Statements of Scientists

4; Statements of

scientists

a.3insteinb.>ord Aelvin

c.Srinivas ".RamanuBa

d.3rnst (oris

e.Ma' bornf./are5 (arton

g."ntony =le

h.Stephen a5ins

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There is a per!ect 'rain 'ehind all the

natural physical

la+s(

@l'ert ?instein

(ere is a erfect #rain

#e(ind a$$ t(eatura$ (.sica$ $aws;

@l'ert ?instein116



;hat do the

'est o! the

scientists !eel =117



There is a per!ect 'rain 'ehind all the

natural physical

la+s(

@l'ert ?instein

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&ntony Flew



My whole life has been guided by the principle of Plato's Socrates: Follow the evidence, wherever it

leads!

"ell, at age #$, Flew honestly followed the evidence and renounced his atheism, concluding that

some sort of intelligence or first cause must have created the universe %e declared, !& super

intelligence is the only good explanation for the origin of life and the complexity of nature!

For me, logic screamed that someone (or something) was responsible for life

*ow, I couldn't go bac+ o be intellectually honest with myself, I had to go forward and discoverwho (or what) caused everything that I see It could be -od it could be Mother *ature it could be

.F/'s but it was something in the realm of metaphysics

o be honest, I was very uncomfortable I didn't li+e the !metaphysical! implications of what

science and technology revealed For me, evolution was dead he world did not create itself

herefore, my comfortable humanist, materialist worldview also had to die Since someone (or

something) was out there, logic declared that my relativistic view of things also had to go0 &lthough s+eptical about my next sub1ect, I had to +eep searching

I started reading the various myths, stories and histories about our past I studied the ancient

civili2ations I reviewed maps of the ancient world I was fascinated by the archaeological evidence

In fact, I had no idea man+ind was writing government records, statutory codes and legal contracts

in 3455 67 I thought ancient history was merely oral traditions of very simple cultures hen, I

started reading the socalled !holy boo+s!

a British philosopher, Oxford professor and leading champion of atheism for more than

a half-century

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Over+helming strong

proo!s o! intelligent and

'enevolent design lie around

us( The atheistic idea is so

nonsensical that # cannot put

it into +ords(

ord 0elvin& ather o! Thermodynamics126



Scriptural Statements

5; Scritura$ statements

i.,edanta Sutra

ii.(rahma Samhita

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T3 #!S33! <S PR6,3! (@ T3 S33!



9NO ONE S S!$EROR "O ME5 O AR:!NA+E#ERY"HN& RES"S !$ON ME5 AS $EARLS ARE

S"R!N& ON A NEC'LACE ;

“mattah parataram nanyat kincit asti dhananjayamayi sarvam idam protam sutre mani-gana iva”

129



janmadyasya yatah

1od is the original source and

cause of everything.

<*0+S+

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@:@

$@:#T@

anadi adir govindah

sarva karana karanam

12od has no 3e'innin'* !or

4e is the 3e'innin' o!

everthin'5 4e is the

ulti+ate cause o! allcauses"6

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Universal Government

a.$ater transport system

i.Storageii./elivery

iii.Preservation

b.=ruit

i.!utrition value photosynthesisc.Symbiotic factory

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irst ste in Endin% out so$utionis to reco%nie t(e Master of t(is



ni-ersa$ Go-ernment 9 G=*

7appa, 6ow can a physically unrealisable, mathe/

matically unverifiable theory be accepted as a

scientific theory8 Is it not blind faith to believe

everything came from a big bang-9nothing8

Is it not a good ;o!e to thin! a point 9nothing- to be

the cause of all causes 9everything8

1

#t is like asking



#t is like asking

ho+ does theeistence o! the

government matterto a citiEen=

The state /overnment



provides !acilities to

the citiEens and laysdo+n la+s !or their

+ell 'eing( Does thesame apply to the

universal government

headed 'y /od=

@ll our



@ll our

necessities are provided !or

'y amaEingdesign(

d d



ood& ;ater and

:ud trans!ormedinto citric acid

stored in porta'le&

'iodegrada'le

containers

ood :ud Trans!er



Mud Photosynthesis Mango

ood:ud Trans!er

Ao matter ho+ hard +e +ork to earn money& +e +on0tget any !ood unless /od produces it miraculously in



nature(

The sym'iotic !actory



;onder !ul& 'ut scienti!ically impossi'le

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Gou are alive

due to a real

sym'iotic

!actory

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!SE ONE’S N"ELL&ENCE "O A$$RECA"E

"HE NCONCE#A)LE )RAN O% "HE LORD

"O &LOR%Y "HE MYS"ERES O% "HELORD’S CREA"ON AND ENER&Y

"O CREA"E (ORLD(DES$R"!AL A(ARENESS

"O !NDERS"ANDAND E<$LAN "HE$!R$OSE O% LORD’S CREA"ON 146

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Connecting Theme

a;Gettin% <.es to See God

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"can a scientist believe in god"

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