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Page 1: Chicago Seminar 2015 - Amazon S3s3.amazonaws.com/1_SOM_OFFICE/Reunions/2015/... · Condors, Butterflies, Calendars, Credit Spreads , Double Diagonals, Cash Secured Puts, Long Diagonals,

Chicago Seminar 2015

Dan Sheridan

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Survey: Best Strategy 2015?

• Iron Condor?

• Credit Spread?

• Butterfly?

• Calendar?

• Cash Secured Put?

• Covered write or Long Diagonal?

• Short Strangles?

• Long Calls or Puts or Long Vertical debit Spreads?

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What survey tells us? What if IC?

• Multiple vehicles to trade Iron Condor?

• Multiple ways to initiate an Iron Condor?

• Multiple ways to manage Iron Condors?

• Could 30 people be successful trading Iron Condors and 30 people not be successful trading Iron Condors?

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SPX $2123 Price Chart Last 6 months

Range $1990- $2134

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SPX $2123 Price Chart Last 3 Months

Range: 2045-$2134

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SPX $2123 Price Chart over last 12 months

Range : $1820-$2134

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SPX $2123 Price Chart last 3 Years

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Foundation of how we trade?

• Similar vehicles- relatively few (3-4)

• Relatively Delta Neutral at Beginning of trade except for Credit Spreads

• Trade the trade every duration, whether it’s every 7, 14 , 21, 30, 40, or 60 Days from expiration

• Rely on positive theta , good risk management and plan, and appropriate adjustments each month

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Foundation of how we trade?

• Types of vehicles we trade: SPX, RUT, AAPL, TSLA

• Types of Strategies we trade for Income: Iron Condors, Butterflies, Calendars, Credit Spreads , Double Diagonals, Cash Secured Puts, Long Diagonals, Covered Writes, and different modified versions of above strategies

• Duration of above Income Trades includes 4 Days ( Weeklys) to 60 Days.

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Foundation of how we trade?

• Types of Strategies we trade for Speculative Strategies: Earnings Plays, Long Straddles, Long Calls and Puts, Long Vertical debit Spreads in both Calls and Puts

• In time we are attempting to build very good Craftsmen

• Successful Business Model in Pit? Steve Chanin? Karen?

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Examples of trades we do

• Weekly Calendar

• Monthly Calendar

• Weekly Iron Butterfly

• Monthly Iron Butterfly

• Couch Potato: Credit Spread

• Couch Potato: Modified Credit Spread

• Couch Potato: Broken Wing Butterfly

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Examples of trades we do

• Weekly Iron Condor

• Longer Duration Iron Condor

• Cash Secured Put

• Long Diagonal

• Short Strangle??

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RUT price Chart last 3 months

Range 1211-1294

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Weekly RUT Calendar

Greeks?

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Game Plan?

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RUT Monthly Calendar

Position really Bullish or bearish? Clue: Look at the Greeks

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Tradeoffs versus Weekly Calendar?

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Why start Calendar out-of-the money?

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Is this neutral trade?

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Weekly Iron Butterfly

Why short deltas? A problem?

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Very Similar to Calendar?

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Unbalanced Butterfly for Indexes

What do we give up to get deltas neutral?

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Contrast versus balanced Butterfly

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Longer Duration Iron Butterfly

Inherent problem with Index Butterflies? Is this really a problem? Trade really neutral?

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Initiation and Management

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Longer Duration Mango

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Effective in Market last 3 years?

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Longer Duration Butterfly

Is this setup a problem?

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We’ve been in Bull Market!

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Butterfly with long call set up

Plus and minus of long call?

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Plus and minus contrast?

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TSLA Butterfly

Delta problem like Indexes at onset of trade?

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Game Plan?

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Couch Potato: Credit Spread

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Adjustments in last 3 years?

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Couch Potato: Modified Credit Spread

Why do this?

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IV environment to do this?

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Comparison

Contrast Greeks

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Which would you do?

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Couch Potato: BWB

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Game Plan?

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Weekly Iron Condor

Why different deltas for short options?

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Adjustments?

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Longer Duration Iron Condor

When would I do this structure?

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Game Plan?

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Longer Duration Iron Condor

When would I do this structure?

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Good set up in Bullish Market?

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Low Probability Iron Condor

Contrast versus High Probability Iron Condor?

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Contrast versus High Probability IC

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Tweak LPC for more downside help

Same short deltas as previous trade

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Tradeoffs

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Cash Secured Put

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Looks like covered write

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Long Diagonal

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Contrast versus Cash secured Put

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AAPL Short Strangle Earnings

Is this the time to sell premium around earnings?

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1 Day trade, what’s at stake?

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Ching, Ching!! What was the risk?

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