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Topic started on 18-5-2007 @ 02:36 PM by Spartannic

While digging for ufo evidence in old manuscripts paintings and alot of other

stuff i found some pics that clearly show unexplainable stuff so here i share it

with u guys to debate about.

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These images of two crusaders date from a 12th century manuscript " Annales

Laurissenses" (volumes/books about historical and religion events)and refer to

a UFO sighting in the year 776, during the siege on Sigiburg castle, France.

The Saxons besieged and surrounded the French people. They both were

fighting when suddenly a group of discs (flaming shields) appeared hovering

over the top of the church. It appeared to the Saxons that the French were

protected by these objects and the Saxons fled.

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2 of 11 5/25/2012 7:04 PM

The above image comes from the 10th Century Tibetan translation of the

Sanskrit text "Prajnaparamita Sutra", held at a Japanese museum. In the

enlargement you can see two objects that look like hats, but why are they

floating in mid air ? also one of them appears to have port holes on it. Indian

Vedic texts are full of descriptions of Vimanas. The Ramayana describes

Vimanas as a double decked, circular or cylindrical aircraft with portholes and

a dome. It flew with "the speed of the wind" and gave forth a "melodious

sound".

I always believed that the most unexplainable was the ufo sightings of the

past. All of those (hardcore)debunkers who blame everything to be

photoshopped and stuff cant claim it on those old manuscripts an alike.

So with this thread i hope to get some more info on anything old that holds

ufo tales or images .

reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 02:46 PM by etshrtslr

Here is another one from 1350.

upper left enlarged

upper right enlarged

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reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 02:52 PM by SpiralTrance

Amazing pictures there :-)

I don't personaly think the UFO phenomonen is a new one. Saying that I wonder

what people back in the 700's would have thought about UFO's. I doubt they would

have saw them as an adavanced technology like we do today, but probably as

something biblical or prophetic.

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reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 02:52 PM by Moserious

I've always been intrigued by the old works of art with UFO's in them. I am sure

that some can be explained but some cannot. This website has some really nice

one's, you gotta check it out:

www.bibleufo.com...

What are the debuker arguments for some of the one's that have already been

posted in this thread? I can already hear it, "of course that is not a UFO in that 16th

Century painting, it is swamp gas and the other is flying seed pods". Hey listen, I

know that there are loads of fake UFO pictures these days and I am truly a "prove it

guy" but these old works of art may be the some of the best evidence. Too bad

nobody is still around from those days. Thanks ATS!

reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 02:54 PM by SloS13

been posted here before but possibly some of the best ufo "pictures" in history.

reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 02:54 PM by Spartannic

thx for the input mate. The above picture from etshrtslr shows a fresco entitled

"The Crucifixion" and was painted in 1350. Two objects with figures inside can be

seen in the top left and top right of the fresco. Two enlargements of these objects

are shown above. The fresco is located above the altar at the Visoki Decani

Monestary in Kosovo, Yugoslavia

. Lets get some more in !!


Originally posted by Moserious

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4 of 11 5/25/2012 7:04 PM

I've always been intrigued by the old works of art with UFO's in them. I am sure that some

can be explained but some cannot. This website has some really nice one's, you gotta

check it out:

www.bibleufo.com...

What are the debuker arguments for some of the one's that have already been posted in

this thread? I can already hear it, "of course that is not a UFO in that 16th Century painting,

it is swamp gas and the other is flying seed pods". Hey listen, I know that there are loads of

fake UFO pictures these days and I am truly a "prove it guy" but these old works of art may

be the some of the best evidence. Too bad nobody is still around from those days. Thanks

ATS!

for those guys i have a nice collection of old pictures with ufos in them i plan to

post some more later this evening so flag the thread its going to get informative up

here.

reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 02:57 PM by junglelord

I know this stuff well but wonderful post

God Bless you for spreading the truth

they have been here for a long time

The Watchers


heres a other one yall outta know about.

The above painting is by Carlo Crivelli (1430-1495) and is called "The Annunciation"

(1486) and hangs in the National Gallery, London. A disk shaped object is shining a

pencil beam of light down onto the crown of Mary's head. A Blow up of the object is

under the painting.

reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 03:11 PM by etshrtslr


5 of 11 5/25/2012 7:04 PM

This painting is called "The Madonna with Saint Giovannino". It was painted in the

15th century by Domenico Ghirlandaio (1449-1494) and hangs as part of the Loeser

collection in the Palazzo Vecchio. Above Mary's right shoulder is a disk shaped

object. Below is a blow up of this section and a man and his dog can clearly be seen

looking up at the object.


and what about this coin/medal found in france from 1680

reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 07:33 PM by steve22

I think these types of paintings and documents show some of the most convincing

evidence of extraterrestrial visitors. Back in those days, it would be impossible to

imagine someone flying in a craft like that. They would have no reason to create a

hoax, so it seems to me as some of the most undeniable and solid evidence to date.


6 of 11 5/25/2012 7:04 PM

reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 08:41 PM by ArbitraryGuy

Originally posted by Spartannic

The above painting is by Carlo Crivelli (1430-1495) and is called "The Annunciation" (1486)

and hangs in the National Gallery, London. A disk shaped object is shining a pencil beam

of light down onto the crown of Mary's head. A Blow up of the object is under the painting.

Symbols in art mean different things to different cultures in different times. What

looks like a UFO beaming a laser at the Virgin May to a 21st century audience was

meant by the artist at the time to be circles of angels surrounding God and his light

descending on Mary.

A lot of the above pictures are also poor internet copies of the originals, which

makes UFO-looking objects appear. This is to say, many supposed UFOs in

reproductions of paintings on-line actually look so because of poor digital

reproduction. For instance, in the Virgin Mary particle beam picture, the "UFO" in

the original is actually alternating rings of clouds and angles which have always

represented God in sacred Catholic art. This is unseen because of the poor quality

of the reproductions on the internet.

Please don't confuse ancient or medieval symbolism of sacred art with depictions of

UFOs. Also please note that most paintings lose A LOT of detail when digitized an

put up on the Web. Please check out this website for an explaination of how


7 of 11 5/25/2012 7:04 PM

scholars interpret these "UFO evidence paintings". Most all of the paintings posted

in this thread so far are discussed there.

[edit on 18-5-2007 by ArbitraryGuy]

reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 09:07 PM by andpau87

Thanks for posting that website, ArbitraryGuy. When I seen this thread I started

looking for it again and sadly for some reason its not in my favorites.

Im glad someone had it

reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 09:10 PM by The_Coo

Well thats those old ufo paintings debunked, seems the UFO craze came about

when TV became widesprad around the 50s.

reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 09:18 PM by Diplomat

Originally posted by Moserious

I've always been intrigued by the old works of art with UFO's in them. I am sure that some

can be explained but some cannot. This website has some really nice one's, you gotta

check it out:

www.bibleufo.com...

What are the debuker arguments for some of the one's that have already been posted in

this thread? I can already hear it, "of course that is not a UFO in that 16th Century painting,

it is swamp gas and the other is flying seed pods". Hey listen, I know that there are loads of

fake UFO pictures these days and I am truly a "prove it guy" but these old works of art may

be the some of the best evidence. Too bad nobody is still around from those days. Thanks

ATS!

All of those ancient images are not copyrighted are they? They are free for people

to grab and use however they want? I want to make sure before I save some etc

etc... Does anyone know?

reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 09:35 PM by Diplomat

Originally posted by ArbitraryGuy

Originally posted by Spartannic


8 of 11 5/25/2012 7:04 PM

The above painting is by Carlo Crivelli (1430-1495) and is called "The Annunciation" (1486) and hangs in theNational Gallery, London. A disk shaped object is shining a pencil beam of light down onto the crown of Mary'shead. A Blow up of the object is under the painting.

Symbols in art mean different things to different cultures in different times. What looks like

a UFO beaming a laser at the Virgin May to a 21st century audience was meant by the

artist at the time to be circles of angels surrounding God and his light descending on Mary.

A lot of the above pictures are also poor internet copies of the originals, which makes

UFO-looking objects appear. This is to say, many supposed UFOs in reproductions of

paintings on-line actually look so because of poor digital reproduction. For instance, in the

Virgin Mary particle beam picture, the "UFO" in the original is actually alternating rings of

clouds and angles which have always represented God in sacred Catholic art. This is

unseen because of the poor quality of the reproductions on the internet.

Please don't confuse ancient or medieval symbolism of sacred art with depictions of UFOs.

Also please note that most paintings lose A LOT of detail when digitized an put up on the

Web. Please check out this website for an explaination of how scholars interpret these

"UFO evidence paintings". Most all of the paintings posted in this thread so far are

discussed there.

[edit on 18-5-2007 by ArbitraryGuy]

Great post. I can't speak for every single ancient piece of art that might have UFOs

in them, but in general I believe that people are just seeing what they want to see

and that the "UFOs" were originally meant to represent something else by the

artist...

reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 10:21 PM by uberarcanist

Originally posted by Diplomat

Originally posted by MoseriousI've always been intrigued by the old works of art with UFO's in them. I am sure that some can be explained butsome cannot. This website has some really nice one's, you gotta check it out:

www.bibleufo.com...

What are the debuker arguments for some of the one's that have already been posted in this thread? I can alreadyhear it, "of course that is not a UFO in that 16th Century painting, it is swamp gas and the other is flying seedpods". Hey listen, I know that there are loads of fake UFO pictures these days and I am truly a "prove it guy" butthese old works of art may be the some of the best evidence. Too bad nobody is still around from those days.Thanks ATS!


9 of 11 5/25/2012 7:04 PM

All of those ancient images are not copyrighted are they? They are free for people to grab

and use however they want? I want to make sure before I save some etc etc... Does

anyone know?

Classical works of art (as a general rule, anything before 1900) are NOT

copyrighted.


I do believe alot of those pics can be explained in an ordinary way. But since i have

done alot of research in the field of ancient sightings i disagree with people who

claim they are al bunk. To me it seems clear that things like this :

This is an illustration from a book "Ume No Chiri (Dust of Apricot)" published in

1803. A foreign ship and crew witnessed at Haratonohama (Haratono Seashore) in

Hitachi no Kuni (Ibaragi Prefecture), Japan this strange object. According to the

explanation in the drawing, the outershell was made of iron and glass, and strange

letters shown in this drawing were seen inside the ship. And come on exlpain to me

what the thing could be exept a UFO ?

reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 11:32 PM by spookymusic

Originally posted by etshrtslr

This painting is called "The Madonna with Saint Giovannino". It was

painted in the 15th century by Domenico Ghirlandaio (1449-1494) and

hangs as part of the Loeser collection in the Palazzo Vecchio. Above

Mary's right shoulder is a disk shaped object. Below is a blow up of this

section and a man and his dog can clearly be seen looking up at the

object.


10 of 11 5/25/2012 7:04 PM

Looks kinda like Noah's Ark to me (it's shaped a little bit like a boat)...just some

speculation.

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