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Clojure in US vs Europe A First-hand Experience Report Presented at Amsterdam Clojure Meetup July 2015 by Paul Lam (@Quantisan)

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Clojure in US vs Europe A First-hand Experience Report

Presented at Amsterdam Clojure Meetup July 2015 by Paul Lam (@Quantisan)

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Paul’s Clojure work history

Boston S.F.

2012 2013 20152014

London

Boston Clojure Meetup

Spokepoint

YC Startup

uSwitch

Incanter

Cascalog

Tour

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“This City is what it is because our citizens are what they are”

- Plato

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My Airbnb host in The Hague

● Traveled across the world since the 60’s … by ships

● Rigged a rainwater collection system for her garden

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London

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A London Clojurian You Might Meet

● Java developer from a bank in a prior life

● With a young family living in Barnet

● Kite-surfing in Brighton

● Knows every pub in the city

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My life as a Clojurian in London

Likes:● First Londoners I’ve met

were from the Clojure Dojo

● Received lots of support from Clojure people in and out of workplace

● Well connected to the rest of European Clojure groups

Dislikes:● Can’t afford to buy a flat

in London● Work visa sponsorship

rules out working at newer companies or doing a startup

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Clojure Shops in London

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/london-clojurianshttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/london-clojurian-jobs

Mastodon C

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Cambridge, MA

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A Cambridge Clojurian You Might Meet

● Graduated from both MIT and Harvard

● Works on processing genomics data

● Actually uses Common Lisp and Haskell

● Family with kids living in the South Shore

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My life as a Clojurian in Cambridge

Likes:● Ran into Richard

Stallman on my first weekend

● Met many people solving hard problems

● Small but close-knit community

● Swimming or bouldering at lunch

Dislikes:● Few Clojure teams● Am not one of the

students in the more than 100 colleges in greater Boston area

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Clojure Shops in Greater Boston Area

http://www.meetup.com/Boston-Clojure-Group/

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San Francisco

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A SF Clojurian You Might Meet

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My life as a Clojurian in San Francisco

Likes:● Even my non-tech

clients have heard about Clojure

● #1 startup ecosystem○ mentoring○ funding○ collaborating

● 3-4 Clojure meetups in a month

● No shortage of services catering to SV geeky lifestyle

Dislikes:● Rent of my room is

same as my whole flat in London

● Drinking the startup Kool-Aid

● Insulated from the non-tech world

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Clojure shops in San Francisco

http://www.meetup.com/The-Bay-Area-Clojure-User-Group/

More that I don’t know about

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Summary

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Choose London if you ...

● Prefer European lifestyle● Wants to work for a mid size company● Build a European presence

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Choose Boston if you ...

● Want to use Clojure for hard science or education technologies

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Choose San Francisco if you ...

● Wants to drink the startup kool-aid● Be part of a massive Clojure community

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Other Clojure hotspots?

Amsterdam?

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Contact

Paul Lam

[email protected]● @Quantisan

Next talk in Berlin on 15 July, Yet Another Startup Built on Clojure(Script)