creation science: think outside the box of evolutionism &...

Creation Science:

Think Outside The Box of Evolutionism

& Find Your Identity

July 18. 2015 Sangmin Lee

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By the grace of God I am what I am…

1 Corinthians 15:10

• What is issue?

Q1. Is Creation a Religion and Evolution a Science?

A Great Faith of Evolution Theory

• What is Science?

• Experimental v.s Origins Science

• Who in the world is “the Expert”?

• Biblical creationism

• Common Case Study of Origins Science

• What is the Point?

• Astrology and Evolution Theory

Q2. What is the Origin of Evolution Theory? Darwin, from a Theologian to a Victim of Evolutionism

• Brief history of Creationism/Evolutionism

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Contents

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Reference

Institute for Creation Research icr.org Creation Research Society creationresearch.org Creation Ministries International creation.com Answers in Genesis answersingenesis.org Discovery Institute discovery.org Northwest Creation Network nwcreation.net Associates for Biblical Research biblearchaeology.org Korea Association for Creation Research http://www.creation.or.kr/ Association for Creation Truth www.hisark.com

Slides from: http://www.nwcreation.net/presentations/ Chris Ashcraft Mike Riddle John Morris Terry Mortenson Don Patton: Creation Science video Kent Hovind: Creation Science Evangelism video Rush Miller: creation evolution science ministry 임번삼박사: 세계관-진화론-교과서 Kim Myung-Hyun:

Henry M. Morris The father of modern creation science


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http://www.hisark.com/

http://www.nwcreation.net/presentations/

http://www.nwcreation.net/presentations/

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What is issue?

Kent Hovind slide

Human evolution advocate

Evolutionary biologist

Some evolutionists say …


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What is issue? Some Nobel Prize winners say …

Creation Science-Think Outside The Box Creation Science-Think Outside The Box

1967 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine

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What is issue?

Don Patton slides

Some others say …


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National Museum of Natural History(D.C Mall)

What is issue?

Q1. Is Creation a Religion and Evolution a Science?

A Great Faith of Evolution

Theory


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What is Science? Experimental Science Origins Science

http://commons.wikimedia.org/

http://fc02.deviantart.net/

http://www.faradayschools.com/

http://www2.fiu.edu/~collinsl/HistoryLifeSyllabus.htm

Observable? Repeatable? Reproducible?

No !! Yes!!


Would rather call it, Literary/Visual Art, not Science!!

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Experimental vs Origins Science

Origins Science

www.campuskids.com

When did they..? How long time..? How many laps..? ..…

They were running when we found them..

How fast..? How tall..? Pace..? Calorie burning? …..

Observable !! So we know the answer!! Because we can measure..

????

Case 1: Running on a track..

Experimental Science

Scope of experimental Science is Present need no assumption!!


www.campuskids.com

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Origin? Path?

(or Rate)

Other Factors?

Past Present

Time line

Observation Limit

Scope of Experimental Science is present needs no assumption!! No Controversy!!

Not the Issue of Science, but of Men’s Interpretation or Viewpoint

Scope of Origins Science is past, Beyond observation No answer.


Uncertainties of Origins Science Case 1: Running on a track..

They were running when we found them..

depends on men’s assumption or World view or Imagination!!

Who in the world is “the Expert”?

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Marathoner? Sport analyst? Sailor? Surfer? Chef? Noodle maker? ……..

For questions without answer

Everyone can give answer!!

Majority rule decides expert!

Still not the right answer!!

Need Witness, Not Expert!!

For questions such as: When did they..? How long time..? How many..? …Ask experts?

They were …when we found them….

For questions without witness, such as origins issues, nobody can give the right answer majority rule tends to work.

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Biblical creationism

In Six Days... After Its Kinds…

Chris Ashcraft slide

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Declaration of creation and origin


Understanding God’s wonder through his creatures

Common Case Study of Origins Science

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Every case is independent from experimental science’s view point , however….

… All cases become the same one topic from origins science’s view point.

1.5. Common Case Study.

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Common Case Study

Origins Science

How large force? How long time..? When did it happen..? ..…

There were Strata when we found the canyon..

How deep..? How large..? How many..? …..

Case : Geology..


Chris Ashcraft slide Observable !! So we know the answer!! Because we can measure.. ???? Scope of experimental Science is Present need no assumption!!


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There were Strata when we found the canyon..

Case : Geology..

Origin Path

(or Rate)

Other factors

Past Present

Time line

Observation Limit


Scope of Origins Science is past Beyond observation No answer. depends on men’s assumption or World view or Imagination!!

Common Case Study

vs

Genesis Records Catastrophic..

Men’s Idea Uniformitarian.. (Millions of years..)

Biblical View Secular View

Not the Issue of Science, but of Men’s Interpretation or Philosophy

Grand Canyon



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Mike Riddle www.bio.utexas.edu

Catastrophic (Flood) model

Uniformitarian model

- Was it by Genesis Flood or by slow-and-gradual Evolutionary process? - What kind of evidence…? - Which interpretation is more scientific?

Two views of Strata Creation Science-Think Outside The Box

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Case Study of Geology Mount St. Helens May 17, 1980 –

on (May 18, 1980)

occurred on the afternoon of the initial explosion.

•slurry of silt, sand and rock passed by in several hours.

On March 19, 1982, a small eruption melted the snow in the crater over the winter, and a resulting mud flow eroded a canyon system, the little Grand Canyon.



http://creationwiki.org/pool/images/1/17/Mount_St._Helens_after_eruption_aerial.jpg

The Creation Orchard


http://discovercreation.org/blog/tag/the-biggest-challenges-to -evolution/page/3/

- Fossils can only be formed by fast burial. - Every strata contains fossils. Every strata should be formed fast. support catastrophic Genesis Flood.

The Evolutionary Tree

Geological Column

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http://discovercreation.org/blog/tag/the-biggest-challenges-to








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Origin Path

(or Rate)

Other factors

Past Present

Time line

Observation Limit


Common Case Study

vs

Genesis Records Catastrophic..

Men’s Idea Uniformitarian.. (Millions of years..)



Case : Paleontology..

Trilobite Mike Riddle slide

There were fossils when we found the strata..

Scope of Origins Science is past, Beyond observation No answer. depends on men’s assumption or World view or Imagination!!


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Fossil Formation Catastrophic Slow and gradual

Burial.. or, decay? Fossil can only be formed by fast burial support Genesis Flood

BURIED

EATING Chris Ashcraft slide

Causes sudden burial

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The rubber-soled boot with petrified cowboy (human) leg, bones …was found in a dry creek bed near the West Texas …, about 1980 by Mr. Jerry Stone, an employee of Corvette oil company.

Two fossilized hats. One was dropped in a coal mining pit. The other was found under volcanic ash.

http://www.createddinos.com/Creationevolution/fossils.html

Fossilization Speed

http://pocketanswers.net/fossilized_manmade_objects_files/image004.jpg

Does it take millions of years?


http://www.createddinos.com/Creationevolution/fossils.html

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Original speed?

constant speed?

Other Factors?

Time line?

Common Case Study Case : Astronomy: Speed of star light


M51 The Whirlpool Galaxy

There came lights when we looked at the star..


Past

Observation Limit www.8planets.co.uk

Observation speed

vs

Genesis Records God said in Day 4..

Men’s Idea Millions of light year Millions of years old..

Biblical View Secular View Scope of Experimental Science is present needs no assumption!! No Controversy!!


Present

Or Distance line?

Far Near

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Common Case Study

Kent Hovind slide

When did it..? How long..? ..…

Origins Science

Not Observable Past Event! So We Don’t Know Answer! Because We Need to Know: -Initial Condition -Path(Decay Rate) -Any Contamination


Case : Radiometric dating

Past

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Reality of Radiometric Dating

John Morris slide

Old Dates for Young Rocks


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When did..? How long..? How many..? ..…

How fast..? How tall..? How big…? Pace..? …..

Observable !! So we know the answer!! Because we can measure..


forum.krstarica.com

tubekr.com

www.campuskids.com

Origins Science

How deep..? How large..? How many..?

…..



Not observable !! So we don’t know answer! Because we need to know: …..

Need Witness, not Expert!!

Observable !!

They were …. when we found them...

Summary of Common Case Study

need no assumption!!

need no assumption!!

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Origin Path

(or Rate)

Other factors

Past Present

Time line

Observation Limit

vs

Genesis Records In Six days.. After its kinds..

Men’s Idea Millions of years.. Slow and gradual..


Origins of….


Scope of Experimental Science is present needs no Assumption!!


Mike Riddle slide

There were … when we found them ...



Summary of Common Case Study

Astrology and Evolution Theory

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Origin

Path (or Rate)

Other factors

Past Present

Observation Time Limit



Future

Path (or Rate)

Other factors

Future

Evolution theory Astrology

Prediction of Past Event Beyond Observation No Scientific Answer No Proof Less Risky

Prediction of Future Event Beyond Observation No Scientific Answer Yes Proof i.e. time goes one direction More Risky

The Great Faith of Evolution Theory.

Time Limit of Observation

Geology

Paleontology Anthropology

Biology

Astronomy

Chemistry… History… Archaeology… Radiometric dating.. ……..

Creationism Bible says…and we believe..

Evolutionism Men assume…and they believe..

Present Past

Evolutionism is as Religious as Creationism


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Origins??

- Kent Hovind -

“In the Beginning, God… vs In the Beginning, Dirt..”

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Q2. What is the Origin of Evolution Theory?

Darwin, from a Theologian to a

Victim of Evolutionism


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History of Geological Interpretation Creation Science-Think Outside The Box

1669

The early Church

Nicolaus Steno (Danish anatomist and geologist)

The principle of Superposition. Fossil by Noah’s flood.

A.D.

“Many early Christians attributed Fossils to Noah’s Flood.”

Reference: Where Did the Idea of "Millions of Years" Come From? –from Dr. Terry Mortenson, Answers book 2

Comte de Buffon (French scientist)

1779

The earth was once like a hot molten ball.. cooled to reach its present state over about 75,000 years

1796

Pierre Laplace (French astronomer )

Solar system was once a hot, spinning gas cloud.. over long ages gradually cooled and condensed to form the planets.

1809

Jean Lamarck, (French naturalist)

Advocated a theory of biological evolution

James Hutton (Scottish geologist)

1795

Continents were slowly eroded into the oceans. … gradually hardened … then raised… again eroded … hardened, and elevated.

1812

Georges Cuvier (French comparative anatomist)

Over long, untold ages of earth history, many catastrophic Floods…

Charles Lyell

1833

Principles of Geology, augmenting the ideas of Hutton only present-day processes.. rate… should be used to interpret the rock record of past geological activity.

(British lawyer geologist)

Radiome-tric dating methods

Ernest Rutherford

(British Physicist)

1903 1859

Origin of Species

Charles Darwin

The Renaissance…….. Humanism……… Naturalism……….

Darwin chose to go with the “Trend of Old Earth” that is men’s assumptions, and became a Victim !!

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Impact on Biblical Interpretation


1669

The early Church

Nicolaus Steno (Danish anatomist and geologist)

the principle of Superposition. Fossil by Noah’s flood.

A.D.

“Many early Christians attributed Fossils to Noah’s flood.”

Reference: Where Did the Idea of "Millions of Years" Come From? –from Dr. Terry Mortenson, Answers book 2

Comte de Buffon (French scientist)

1779

the earth was once like a hot molten ball.. cooled to reach its present state over about 75,000 years

1796

Pierre Laplace (French astronomer )

solar system was once a hot, spinning gas cloud.. over long ages gradually cooled and condensed to form the planets.

1809

Jean Lamarck, (Fre nch naturalist)

advocated a theory of biological evolution

James Hutton (Scottish geologist)

1795

continents were slowly eroded into the oceans. … gradually hardened … then raised… again eroded … hardened, and elevated.

1812

Georges Cuvier (French comparative anatomist)

over long, untold ages of earth history, many catastrophic Floods…

Charles Lyell

1855

Principles of Geology, augmenting the ideas of Hutton only present-day processes.. rate… should be used to interpret the rock record of past geological activity.

(British lawyer geologist)

Radiome-tric dating methods

Ernest Rutherford

(British Physicist)

~1870 1859

Origin of Species

Charles Darwin

The Renaissance.. Humanism… Naturalism…. Liberal Theology…

1804 1820

“Liberal theology, … by the early 1800s, was dominating in Europe, …make inroads into Britain and North America in the 1820s. … Considered Genesis 1–11 to be … unreliable and unscientific … myths of the ancient Babylonians … By 1845, all the commentaries on Genesis had abandoned the biblical chronology and the global flood… By the time of Darwin’s Origin of Species (1859), the young-earth view had essentially disappeared within the Church. From that time … most Christian leaders and scholars of the Church accepted the millions of years … insisted that the age of the earth was not important…”

Thomas Chalmers (Presbyterian pastor)

preach that “Christians should accept the millions of years..” “all the time could fit between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2”, this gap theory became very popular.

John Fleming (Presbyterian

Minister)

Noah’s flood was so peaceful that it left no lasting geological evidence.

Charles Spurgeon (Baptist preachers)

Charles Hodge

“Years ago we thought the beginning of this world was when Adam came upon it; but we have discovered that thousands of years before that God was preparing chaotic matter…”

Initially favored the gap theory and switched to the day-age view…His compromise contributed to the eventual victory of liberal theology at Princeton…

(Presbyterian theologian at Princeton Seminary)

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Brief history of Creationism/Evolutionism

1916 1961 1933 1962,1963 1972 1981

Humanism… Naturalism… Liberal Theology…. Evolutionism… Racism… Communism..

World view-Evolutionism-Textbook(Dr. Bun Sam Lim)

The Genesis Flood: The Biblical Record and Its Scientific Implications

Henry Morris/ John Whitcomb

www.au.org

The U.S. Supreme Court

“ruled that official prayer had no place in public education. ..declared school-sponsored Bible reading and recitation of the Lord's Prayer unconstitutional”

Stephen Gould/ Niles Eldridge

“Punctuated Equilibrium” fossil record is characterized not by gradual changes….and sudden appearance

answersingenesis.org

Margaret Sanger

Planned Parenthood - the largest abortion business in America

Adolf Hitler

In the 1933 Nuremberg party rally, ..proclaimed that ‘higher race subjects to itself a lower race …a right which we see in nature and which can be regarded as the sole conceivable right

1925

Scopes trial

A turning point for secular philosophy to pervade the culture and education system.

1959

Julian Huxley

The Darwin Centennial Celebration at Chicago U, “Darwin’s theory … a fact.”

Humanist Manifesto

“Humanists regard the Universe as self existing and not created”

Can you tell me anything … about evolution, ..? I tried that question .. at the Field Museum of Natural History .. the only answer… was silence.

Colin Patterson

3.1 History of Creationism/Evolutionism Impact of evolutionism

Kent Hovind slides 35


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Planned Parenthood - the largest abortion business in America – aborted nearly 330,000 babies last year - more than the year before. It took over half a billion tax dollars from you, the taxpayer, and it wants more. It wants more abortions; it wants more tax dollars. -2015. ACLJ

Origin of Planned Parenthood

3.2 Example of impact of evolutionism

Kent Hovind slide

Matthew 19:4

"Haven't you read," he[Jesus] replied, "that at the beginning

the Creator 'made them male and female,‘ -NIV-

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www.holybible.or.kr

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