1. PresentingFragments as Quotations or Quotations as FragmentsA Digital Edition of the Fragments ofDemetrios of Scepsis Dr Alexandra Trachsel19th February 2013 Digital Classicist Seminars Berlin

2. Context Demetrios of Scepsis: 2nd century BCE working at one of the centres of scholarship in Antiquity(Pergamon) Homeric scholarship (Aristarchus and Crates of Mallos) Trojan Catalogue Troy / Ilion Living and probably workingScepsisin his hometown (Scepsis)Pergamon 3. Demetrios work Original length: 30 books We have kept 75 fragments, most of themrather short Indirect transmission Title: 4. Questions related to the stateof preservation How to represent texts which are not based on the transcriptionof a set of manuscripts, but on previous editions themselvesbased on critical editions of ancient texts. How to represent as accurately as possible the links between thepreserved quotations in a given source-text and Demetrios work,as they are more or less close renderings of an initial lost piece. 5. Questions related to the stateof preservation How to represent texts which are not based on the transcriptionof a set of manuscripts, but on previous editions themselvesbased on critical editions of ancient texts. How to represent as accurately as possible the links between thepreserved quotations in a given source-text and Demetrios work,as they are more or less close renderings of an initial lost piece. How to keep the choices modern authors made in this processvisible for the reader. 6. Working with previous editionsMain distinctive feature: Two different groups of scholars involved- Those dealing with the source-texts- Those dealing with the fragments 7. Working with previous editionsEdition a Edition b Edition cmanuscripts Edition d 8. Working with previous editions Fr. 1 according to editor 1 Fr. 1 according to editor 2 Edition b Edition cmanuscriptsFr. 1 according to editor 3 Edition d 9. Working with previous editions Fr. 1 according to editor 1Fr. 1 according to editor 2 Edition b Edition cmanuscriptsFr. 1 according to editor 3 Edition d>> Which text is Fr. 1 ? 10. Working with previous editionsFr 1. according to editor 1Fr 1. according to editor 2Fr 1. according to editor 3(...) = Fr. 1 ( in a new digital edition) 11. Working with previous editions Fr. 2a according to editor 1 Fr. 2a according to editor 2Ancient work 1 Fr. 2 according to editor 3 Fr. 2b according to editor 1 Fr. 2b according to editor 2Ancient work 2 12. Working with previous editions Fr. 2a according to editor 1W1 Fr. 2a according to editor 2 Fr. 2 according to editor 3(...)W2 Fr. 2b according to editor 1Fr. 2b according to editor 2(...) = Fr. 2 ( in a new digital edition) 13. Working with previous editions Fr. 2a according to editor 1Fr. 2a according to editor 2 Fr. 2 according to editor 3DemetriosAW 1Fr. 2 (as result ofthe interpreations ofmodern scholars) Fr. 2b according to editor 1AW 2Fr. 2b according to editor 2 14. Working with previous editionsAttempts of solutions: The representing and expression of more or less close renderings of aoriginally lost passage SAWS-project at Kings College London (http://www.ancientwisdoms.ac.uk/) The CITE canonical citations address the difficulty that modern editorsdo often not agree about the length of a fragment There remains the difficulty about the fact that one starts from theeditions and not from the ancient documents themselves 15. Arrangement of the fragments 16. Arrangement of the fragments DemetriosDemetrios Demetrios DemetriosDemetriosDemetrios Demetrios 17. Arrangement of the fragments 1 Demetrios2 Demetrios3 Demetrios 4 Demetrios Demetrios 5 6 Demetrios Demetrios 7 18. Arrangement of the fragments 1 Demetrios2 Demetrios3 Demetrios 4 Demetrios Demetrios 5 6 Demetrios Demetrios 7+ all the rest 19. Arrangement of the fragmentsIliad 2. 816-877:Demetrios: Demetrios1) 816-818: Troy Fragment 1 Demetrios .DemetriosFragment 2 2) 819-823: DardaniaDemetrios , ,Demetrios Fragment 3 , . Demetrios3) 824-827: Zeleia Fragment 4 , , . (...)Fragment 5 20. Arrangement of the fragmentsIliad 2. 816-877:Demetrios: Demetrios1) 816-818: Troy Fragment 1 Demetrios .DemetriosFragment 2 2) 819-823: DardaniaDemetrios , ,Demetrios Fragment 3 , . Demetrios3) 824-827: Zeleia Fragment 4 , ? Fragment 6 ? , . (...)Fragment 5