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Deliberations on ISO/IEC/ITU‘s Developement - cooperation - cross-boundary - inter-disciplinary Guido Guertler ICSCA Co-Chair Siemens, Munich Tel. ++49/89/636-40700 [email protected] A contribution for discussion at the ICSCA VIII-2 meeting, Berlin, 27 Feb 2002

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Deliberations on

ISO/IEC/ITU‘s Developement

- cooperation- cross-boundary- inter-disciplinary

Guido GuertlerICSCA Co-Chair

Siemens, Munich Tel. ++49/89/636-40700 [email protected]

A contribution for discussion at the ICSCA VIII-2 meeting, Berlin, 27 Feb 2002

Traditional Standardization -

an idea whose time has passed?

Guido GuertlerICSCA Co-Chair

Siemens, Munich Tel. ++49/89/636-40700 [email protected]

THE SPOKEN WORD APPLIES

International Workshop Geneva

ISO INFCO/ITSIG

23-24 October 2000

Theses ideas were originated mid 2000, discussed and supported by the ICSCA and presented at the

INFCO/ITSIG event.

The present slides contain only editorial changes; the substance is valid.

A View of History

Degree of working in interdisciplinary networks

1890 1920 1950 20001970

ISOIEC

VDE DIN

CENELEC CEN

JTC1Paper Mail

Telecomservices

E-mailWEB

Consortia & Foralocal

multi/-international

(multi)-regional

International

The “ISO-Industry” ??

Some Changes & Challenges (1)

World-wide communication and logistics, e-business, reduction of barriers to trade; “global products for global markets”

(a) International Standards supporting global business (b) Protecting local markets pushes population to poverty

Converging technologies require interdisciplinary work in R&D as well as in standardization; a “SYSTEMS APPROACH” is necessary

General desintegration of hierarchical structures: best expertise works in networked teams (network of knowledge, supported by electronic networks)

Some Changes & Challenges (2) Main user of standards is industry itself; therefore:

a growing concern about traditional organisation’s Member Bodies who develop standards and thereafter certification schemes for their own revenue generation

Such conflicts tend to make “commercial interest” prevail

Hierarchical working structures change to networked working structures

• Can traditional standardization remain to work in hierarchical structures ?

• Can traditional procedures cope with the challenges ?

• Can the integrity of the process be maintained while adapting structures and procedures?

• Can traditional standardization remain to work in hierarchical structures ?

• Can traditional procedures cope with the challenges ?

• Can the integrity of the process be maintained while adapting structures and procedures?

Questions

Some Observations

• work of one sector is split among several organisations

• cause for disputes on overlaps, liaisons etc.

• huge differences in sizes of membership economies

• work of one sector is split among several organisations

• cause for disputes on overlaps, liaisons etc.

• huge differences in sizes of membership economies

• Same procedures for product standards and horizontal standards

• Same procedures for work needing general i.e., public consensus and work being sufficiently handled, at first place, by consensus of the affected parties

• different names and types of deliverables

• Same procedures for product standards and horizontal standards

• Same procedures for work needing general i.e., public consensus and work being sufficiently handled, at first place, by consensus of the affected parties

• different names and types of deliverables

StructuresStructures ProceduresProcedures

Structures and procedures can be problems to get:

• the affected parties on board (“parties concerned,” consortia, fora etc.)

• market representativity and acceptance of the results

Structures and procedures can be problems to get:

• the affected parties on board (“parties concerned,” consortia, fora etc.)

• market representativity and acceptance of the results

Some Principles for the Future (1)

A Systems’ Approach with interdisciplinary work is a MUST

Working in international “networks of best expertise” on case-based and most efficient structures & procedures)

Multi-branch work on horizontal standards, ensuring participation of all affected sectors and businesses

Some Principles for the Future (2)

Ensuring that those parties participate in drafting a standard (product or horizontal) who have to take the costs of application

Strict use of horizontal standards in product standards; to avoid multiple and/or redundant testing and certification

Effective market research on the de facto use of standards; and re-classification of less used ones

Perception and Distinction (1) Standards Standards

GC-Standards GC-Standards DC-Standards DC-Standards

• Dedicated Consensus

• Open to sector members

• Transparent process

• Dedicated NWIP Critieria

• Sector application

• Dedicated Consensus

• Open to sector members

• Transparent process

• Dedicated NWIP Critieria

• Sector application

• General Consensus; worldwide

• Open to all members

• Transparent process

• General NWIP Critieria

• Application globally

• General Consensus; worldwide

• Open to all members

• Transparent process

• General NWIP Critieria

• Application globally

GC = General, i.e., public ConsensusDC = Dedicated Consensus

Perception and Distinction (2) Standards Standards

GC-Standards GC-Standards DC-Standards DC-Standards

• Sector Boards with decision power

• Individually shaped sector procedures

• competing standards

• not qualified to be referenced in regulation

• Sector Boards with decision power

• Individually shaped sector procedures

• competing standards

• not qualified to be referenced in regulation

• More structures with systems approach

• procedures as today

• no competing standards

• qualified to be referenced in regulation

• More structures with systems approach

• procedures as today

• no competing standards

• qualified to be referenced in regulation

ISISTS, PAS, ITA, IWATS, PAS, ITA, IWA

first step is DC standardization first step is GC standardization

World Standards Cooperation

Common Rules

non-technical

technical

Ergonomics

ManagementSystems’

Standards

International Units (SI)

Others

Sector 1 Sector 2 Sector 3 Sector n

Electrical, Electronics, Telecom, others

Basic Standards Common Applications

EMC, Safety, .... Data Formats, Navig.Systems, .... Horizontal

Issues

The Principle

Interdisciplianry work, systems‘s approach

The Sectors, Key Statements (1)

• Sectors, in which the standardization interests of all nations and businesses work together

• horizontal standards being used/referenced in the sectors, unchanged

• sectors are NOT developing other solutions for horizontal standards but give their requests to the horizontal groups

• Sectors, in which the standardization interests of all nations and businesses work together

• horizontal standards being used/referenced in the sectors, unchanged

• sectors are NOT developing other solutions for horizontal standards but give their requests to the horizontal groups

The Sectors, Key Statements (2)

• following a set of common rules which request a clear distinction between standards that require GENERAL consensus and standards that are sufficiently agreed by DEDICATED consensus

• sectors having the utmost possible decentralised decision power and the right to shape their own structures and procedures, while obeying the COMMON rules

• ensuring that the standardization system does eliminate any potential for conflict of interest.

• following a set of common rules which request a clear distinction between standards that require GENERAL consensus and standards that are sufficiently agreed by DEDICATED consensus

• sectors having the utmost possible decentralised decision power and the right to shape their own structures and procedures, while obeying the COMMON rules

• ensuring that the standardization system does eliminate any potential for conflict of interest.

Non-Technical Horizontal Standards,Key Statements

Involvement of ALL sectors and businesses

Clear Rules for the acceptance of NWIP (with pre-evaluation of the NWIP’s economic impact and agreement by ALL parties concerned)

Clear Rules for the composition of steering and working teams (balanced in sectors and businesses)

Clear recognition and elimination of conflict of interest within member bodies

World-wide public enquiry and GENERAL consensus

Procedures for the clearance of existing sector portfolios

Technical Horizontal Standards,Key Statements

• Readiness and commitment to take the needs of ALL sectors and businesses into account

• Rules for the acceptance of NWIP including evaluation of the NWIP’s economic impact

• Readiness and commitment (obligatory GUIDES) of sectors to (a) use the horizontal standards in product standards and (b) give feed back on horizontal standards’ additional or superfluous requirements

• Commitments of Member Bodies’ Regulators to reference such GC standards in Technical Regulations (instead of regulating technical details differently from nation to nation, so setting barriers to trade)

Common Rules, Key Statements• Common Rules for the drafting and application of

GUIDES (technology, co-operation, appeal mechanisms)

• ONE common set of deliverables, “same name for same content and degree of consensus”

• Common scheme for referencing standards in regulation

• Common recommendations (to the sectors) on membership and voting

• Common understanding to create global markets by transposition of international standards into national standards and withdrawal of conflicting ones, be it after a specified (longer) transition period

World Standards Cooperation

Common Rules

non-technical

technical

Ergonomics

ManagementSystems’

Standards

International Units (SI)

Others

Sector 1 Sector 2 Sector 3 Sector n

Electrical, Telecom, Electronics

Basic Standards Common Applications

EMC, Safety, .... Data Formats, Navig.Systems, .... Horizontal

Issues

Sectors, Detailed Statements (1)

• with Boards to be composed by National Member Bodies AND Sector Representatives

• balanced composition; specific to the sector and its involvement of the affected parties

• to apply the COMMON Rules

• to optimise the sector’s structures and procedures according to their business needs, including membership and voting

• to decide, per work area/item, on the type of deliverable (general consensus standard or dedicated consensus standard)

Powerful Sectors, and with commitments....:

Sectors, Detailed Statements (2)

• to ensure the balanced representation of the affected parties in the technical work

• members’ commitment on resources (manpower, expenditures) and Intellectual Property Rights

• get fed-back from the users, which leads to a constant review of work items;

• decisions to launch and drop work areas/items, based on agreed views in the Sector Board

• understanding and commitment of sector members to accept and implement all positively voted standards

Powerful Sectors, but with commitments....:

Sector Examples

• E-business data formats• Heavy Equipment, Earth Moving Machinery, ISO/TC 127• Intelligent Transport Systems; Road Traffic Telematic Systems,

ISO/TC 204 and IEC (ITS related electrical equipment)• Power Line Communication, Substation Control, IEC/TC 57

• Equipment Practices, IEC/TC 48D• Oil and Gas• Information Technology, ISO/IEC JTC 1• .......

Basic orientation:the more precise a sector is defined, the more attractive it is for the market players to join

Basic orientation:the more precise a sector is defined, the more attractive it is for the market players to join

WSC, Key StatementsIt is a Holding of

• national Member Bodies AND business members

• ahs a Board of Directors (i.e., Comité de Surveillance) that is...

It is a Holding of

• national Member Bodies AND business members

• ahs a Board of Directors (i.e., Comité de Surveillance) that is...

.... responsible for

WSC Common Rules

Balanced composition of Sector Boards

Review of horizontal items and their application in product items

Fostering relations between Standards and Regulations

Coordination and Appeal Mechanisms

.... responsible for

WSC Common Rules

Balanced composition of Sector Boards

Review of horizontal items and their application in product items

Fostering relations between Standards and Regulations

Coordination and Appeal Mechanisms

The WSC’s possible next stepsThe WSC’s possible next steps

• set up an interdisciplinary working group, as regards technologies

• composition/contributers:- 6, i.e., 2 from each ISO, IEC and ITU - 6 from business and - 3 from consortia; - 2 from governments (e.g., WTO and/or OECD/ UN/ECE)

• include, in an open dialogue, a number of “contributers by correspondence”

• scope: (a) draft the “Common Rules” and the framework recommendations for “Sector Rules”; (b) come up with results after 6 months; (c ) agreement on first sectors

• goal: get the proposals on the agenda of the contributers’ steering committees and seek consensus and support.