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Volume 1 Pages 1 to 207 Exhibits (See Index) COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS BRISTOL, SS LAND COURT DEPARTMENT NO. 254067 ) LANDING AT SOUTH PARK CONDOMINIUM ASSN ., ) Plaintiff, ) ) vs ) ) BORDEN LIGHT MARINA , INC., ) Defendant. ) ) DEPOSITION OF MICHAEL LUND , taken pursuant to Notice under the Massachusetts Rules of Civil Procedure on behalf of the Plaintiff, before Linda M. Thomas, RMR, a Notary Public and Registered Merit Reporter, in and for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts at the offices of DANIEL R. SEIGENBERG, ESQ., Two Commercial Street, Sharon, Massachusetts on October 25, 2010, commencing at 10:00 a.m. LINDA M . THOMAS COURT REPORTING Certified Shorthand Reporter No . 129293 Registered Merit Reporter 235 Winter Street Walpole , Massachusetts 02081 (508) 668-5821 E- mail : [email protected]

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October 25, 2010BRISTOL, SSVolume 1 Pages 1 to 207 Exhibits (See Index) COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS LAND COURT DEPARTMENT NO. 254067 ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) )LANDING AT SOUTH PARK CONDOMINIUM ASSN., Plaintiff, vs BORDEN LIGHT MARINA, INC., Defendant.DEPOSITION OF MICHAEL LUND, taken pursuant to Notice under the Massachusetts Rules of Civil Procedure on behalf of the Plaintiff, before Linda M. Thomas, RMR, a Notary Public and Registered Merit Reporter, in and for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts at the offices

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Volume 1Pages 1 to 207Exhibits (See Index)

COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTSBRISTOL, SS LAND COURT DEPARTMENT

NO. 254067

)LANDING AT SOUTH PARK CONDOMINIUM ASSN., )

Plaintiff, ))

vs ))

BORDEN LIGHT MARINA, INC., )Defendant. )

)

DEPOSITION OF MICHAEL LUND, taken

pursuant to Notice under the Massachusetts Rules of

Civil Procedure on behalf of the Plaintiff, before

Linda M. Thomas, RMR, a Notary Public and Registered

Merit Reporter, in and for the Commonwealth of

Massachusetts at the offices of DANIEL R. SEIGENBERG,

ESQ., Two Commercial Street, Sharon, Massachusetts on

October 25, 2010, commencing at 10:00 a.m.

LINDA M. THOMAS COURT REPORTINGCertified Shorthand Reporter No. 129293

Registered Merit Reporter235 Winter Street

Walpole, Massachusetts 02081(508) 668-5821

E-mail: [email protected]

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A P P E A R A N C E S

DANIEL R. SEIGENBERG, ESQ.LAW OFFICE OF DANIEL R. SEIGENBERGTwo Commercial StreetSharon, Massachusetts 02067

(For the Plaintiff)

EDMUND J. BRENNAN, ESQ.One Church GreenP.O. Box 488Taunton, Massachusetts 02780

(For the Defendant)

Also present:

Charles Schnitzlein, Plaintiff

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I N D E X

WITNESS Direct Cross Redirect Recross

Michael Lund(By Mr. Seigenberg) 6 202(By Mr. Brennan) 194

E X H I B I T S

NO. DESCRIPTION PAGE

1 Plan of Land in Fall River,Massachusetts drawn for The GreenRiver Realty Trust November 17, 1981,Rev April 12, 1982

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2 Deed dated September 30, 1986 fromGreen River Realty Trust to John C.Lund and Brian R. Corey

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3 Plan Division of Land in Fall River,Massachusetts belonging to Green RiverRealty Trust, July 14, 1986

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4 Visual Easement dated September 30,1986

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5 Elevation Plan of The Landing datedLanding

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6 Cover letter dated August 23, 2010 toEdmund J. Brennan Jr., Esq. fromDaniel R. Seigenberg with SecondRequest for Production of Documents

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7 Letter dated October 8, 2002 to JackieDore from John C. Lund

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8 Letter dated October 10, 2002 from TheLanding at South Park to Mr. Lund

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9 Preliminary Injunction dated May 23,2000

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10 Original photograph 131

11 Two photocopies of photos 136

12 Letter dated October 21, 2010 to unitowners from Mike Lund

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13 Letter dated October 2, 2008, from TheLanding at South Park to Borden LightMarina

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14 March 2009 Minutes 197

15 Settlement Agreement dated March 22,2006

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STIPULATIONS

It is hereby stipulated and agreed by and

between counsel for the respective parties that the

deposition transcript shall be read and signed. It is

also stipulated that signing before a Notary and

filing of the deposition may be waived.

It is furthermore stipulated that all

objections, except as to form and motions to strike,

are reserved until the time of trial.

MR. SEIGENBERG: Mr. Lund would like to

read and sign the deposition. We have agreed to waive

the notary and the understanding would be that

Mr. Lund will have the opportunity 48 hours to read

and sign his deposition.

MR. BRENNAN: From receipt.

MR. SEIGENBERG: From receipt, yes.

Thank you.

MICHAEL LUND, first having shown

identification and been duly sworn on oath, deposes

and says as follows:

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DIRECT EXAMINATION

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Good morning. Can you please state your

full name?

A. Michael Lund.

Q. And your residential address?

A. 700 Shore Drive, Fall River, Mass.

Q. Is there a unit number?

A. 808 -- no, it's 316.

Q. And are you married, sir?

A. Yeah.

Q. And your wife's name?

A. Darlene.

Q. And do you have any children?

A. No.

Q. And what is your date of birth?

A. 10/31/73.

Q. And can you describe your educational

background?

A. Mass Maritime Academy three years and U-Mass

Dartmouth two.

Q. What high school did you attend?

A. Joseph Case High School.

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Q. And where is that located?

A. Swansea, Mass.

Q. And what year did you graduate from high

school?

A. Ninety-one.

Q. And you then attended the Mass Maritime

Academy?

A. Correct.

Q. What years did you attend Mass Maritime?

A. The next three.

Q. '91 through '94; is that correct?

A. I think so.

Q. You indicated you went somewhere after that?

U-Mass Dartmouth; is that correct?

A. Um-hum.

Q. What year did you go to the University of

Massachusetts at Dartmouth?

A. The next two.

Q. And would you agree that is 1994 through

1996?

A. I think so. It was a long time ago now.

Q. What is your best recollection, sir?

A. Just what you wrote down.

Q. I wrote down 1994 through 1996. Do you

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believe to the best of your recollection that is

correct?

A. Yeah.

Q. Did you receive a degree from the University

of Massachusetts at Dartmouth?

A. No.

Q. Let's talk about your -- do you have any

other educational experience other than graduation

from high school and the attendance of those two

schools that you just described?

A. No.

Q. You didn't receive any degree from Mass

Maritime Academy; correct?

A. No.

Q. Can you tell us what your work experience

is, sir?

A. Vermont Yankee Nuclear Power.

Q. And what years did you work at Vermont

Yankee?

A. I think around '93. MIT in -- I don't know.

It was either a year before that, or a year after

that, and Borden Light Marina.

Q. So what type of work did you do at Vermont

Yankee?

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A. Apprentice for Facilities Engineering.

Q. And you were there, approximately, one year?

A. Um-hum.

Q. And MIT, what was your position at MIT?

A. Same thing.

Q. And you were, approximately, one year?

A. Six months.

Q. Did you have any other employment while you

were in high school?

A. Borden Light.

Q. And what year did you start working full

time at Borden Light Marina, not including high

school?

A. A couple of years out of high school --

'94-'95, I guess.

Q. And Borden Light Marina?

A. Um-hum.

Q. What positions have you held at Borden Light

Marina since the commencement of your full-time

employment in, approximately, 1994?

A. I didn't really have any title.

Q. Okay.

A. I just went to work.

Q. Have you had any title at Borden Light

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Marina?

A. Yeah, only recently. Now President.

Q. And when did you become President at Borden

Light Marina?

A. Three years ago.

Q. So this is 2010. Maybe talking 2008?

A. Yeah, around there -- 2008 -- 2009.

Q. Prior to you becoming President, was your

father the President of Borden Light Marina?

A. Correct.

Q. Now prior to becoming President of Borden

Light Marina, what were your responsibilities and

duties relative to your employment at Borden Light

Marina?

A. Everything. The beauty of a small business.

Q. Um-hum.

A. I mean everything from cleaning bathrooms to

paperwork to an awful lot.

Q. Okay. And in that period of time, 1994

until you became President around 2008 or 2009, was

your father, John Lund, the President?

A. Correct.

Q. Let's talk about President. As President of

Borden Light Marina, what are your duties and

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responsibilities?

A. To maintain and improve the company, deal

with the employees, and just oversee all general

operations.

Q. Maybe this will help me: Can you describe

the differences between your employment now that you

are President of Borden Light versus your duties when

you were not President of Borden Light?

A. Less physical work and more administrative

work.

Q. Okay. So currently as President you do less

physical work and more clerical work. Is that how you

described it?

A. Administrative.

Q. Administrative work. What about

decision-making process for Borden Light Marina? What

decision-making authority have you had since you have

been the President?

A. It lies at my doorstep.

Q. When you saw it lies at your doorstep, are

you saying you make the decisions for Borden Light

Marina since you have been President?

A. For a lot of it, yeah.

Q. For a lot of it. To the extent you say "for

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a lot of it," what areas have you not had the

decision-making authority for Borden Light Marina

since you have been President?

A. Well there is, you know -- most decisions we

discuss, whether it is with my employees, or with my

father, and then make a decision collectively. It's

rare that I just make a decision without input.

Q. Okay. When your father was President --

when John Lund was President of Borden Light Marina,

what were his duties and responsibilities?

A. The same as what mine are now.

Q. When your father was President of Borden

Light Marina and he had to make decisions relative to

the marina, did he consult with you?

A. Um-hum. Yeah, he talked to me about it.

Q. Okay. And I take it now as President,

before you make decisions, you talk to your father; is

that correct?

A. Well the idea was he would not have to do

anything anymore.

Q. I understand that was the idea. Let's talk

about reality, however. What is the reality since you

have been President relative to your father's role?

A. I try to consult him if there is something

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that -- if I don't have a clear picture on. Not to

have him -- not to burden him with it. I will rely on

my staff, or if in the case of legal, an attorney, or

I think it is something outside that, I will go see

him and get his input. He is still...

Q. What were your reasons, or reason for your

father resigning as President and you becoming

President of Borden Light Marina?

A. He really just wanted to retire --

Q. Okay.

A. -- and step back.

Q. How old is your father currently?

A. Sixty-eight.

Q. It is my understanding that Borden Light

Marina was formed in 1987. Does that sound correct to

you?

A. Correct.

Q. And do you know who the officers of Borden

Light Marina were when it was formed in 1987?

A. Brian Corey and John Lund.

MR. SEIGENBERG: Excuse me one second.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. So the owners of Borden Light Marina, when

it was formed in 1987, were Brian Corey and John Lund;

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correct?

A. Correct.

Q. Do you know what percentage ownership each

one of them had?

A. Fifty-fifty.

Q. And how long did that ownership of Borden

Light Marina continue?

A. With those two partners?

Q. Correct.

A. I don't know the year. I would have to say

I think I was out of high school. So in the early

90's, and then my father bought out Brian Corey.

Q. And after your father bought out Brian Corey

in the early 1990's, did Mr. Corey have no further

involvement with Borden Light Marina?

A. No.

Q. So the answer is he did not have any further

involvement; correct?

A. Not to my knowledge.

Q. And after your father bought out Brian

Corey, did your father then become the 100-percent

shareholder of Borden Light?

A. No. He sold some shares to John Michaels.

Q. John Michaels? Can you spell it?

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A. M-I-C-H-A-E-L-S, I believe.

Q. Do you know what percentage of shares he

sold to John Michaels?

A. I think 18 or 19 percent. I don't know the

exact figure. Somewhere around there. Maybe, 20.

Q. Was that in the early 1990's?

A. It was all around that timeframe.

Q. Does John Michaels still have a shareholder

interest in Borden Light Marina?

A. Yeah.

Q. Still the same percentage, or has that

changed?

A. I don't think it has gone up significantly,

or down. It is in that area. I don't know the exact

figure.

Q. What about yourself? Are you currently a

shareholder in Borden Light Marina?

A. Yeah.

Q. And what percentage of shares do you have?

A. I don't really know. It's my mother and my

father and I for the remainder of the shares.

Q. Do you know what -- strike that. What date

did you first become a shareholder of Borden Light

Marina?

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A. Good question. I, honestly, don't know.

Q. Okay. How about a decade?

A. I guess it would be this decade, but I

really don't know.

Q. To confuse you a little bit more, this

decade is 2010. This is a new decade we are just

starting.

A. Oh, no. So last decade.

Q. Some time after 2000?

A. Some time after 2000, yeah.

Q. But before 2010?

A. Before 2010, correct.

Q. And can you tell me the circumstances under

which you became a shareholder of Borden Light Marina?

A. As far as what?

Q. Why did you become a shareholder?

A. My father just decided to.

Q. Okay. Did you pay any money for those

shares, or were they a gift from your father?

A. They were a gift.

Q. And the percentage of your shareholder

interest in Borden Light Marina hasn't changed since

the gift by your father?

A. No. He gives me more every year.

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Q. I see. Have you and your father had

discussions where the plan is that you would, over

time, be 100-percent owner of Borden Light Marina?

A. Yeah, of his shares and my mother's.

Q. I understand. We still have Mr. Michaels.

Relative to Mr. Michaels, well what role, if any, does

Mr. Michaels play in Borden Light Marina?

A. None.

Q. Do you view Mr. Michaels as simply an

investor in Borden Light Marina?

A. Yeah.

Q. And when Mr. Michaels became a shareholder

in Borden Light Marina, was that based on some cash

contribution he made?

A. He bought out some of the stock my father

had bought from Brian.

Q. I see. Do you know the reason why Mr.

Michaels was brought into Borden Light Marina?

A. Yeah. My father was looking for another

investor, and he wanted to invest.

Q. Was the reason your father was looking for

another investor was to get an infusion of cash for

the company?

A. I don't know.

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Q. Your father would probably have a better

idea; correct?

A. Yeah.

Q. Okay. What does Mr. Michaels do for work?

A. Nothing. I guess he is retired.

Q. Prior to being retired, are you aware what

type of work Mr. Michaels performed?

A. He owned a big company, or was part owner of

a company. But I don't, honestly, remember what the

name of it was. It was in Canada or something.

Q. Okay. I take it the reason that Borden

Light Marina, Inc. was formed was to start the marina;

is that correct?

A. Correct.

Q. Now I'm not -- I am going to try to move

this along a little bit. Based on the records that I

have seen in this case, at some point in time your

father, John C. Lund, and Brian Corey purchased land

where the marina is currently located; is that

correct?

A. Correct.

Q. It is my under -- do you know -- actually,

my understanding they acquired the property from Leo

M. Kelly, Trustee of Green River Realty Trust on or

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about September of 1986. Does that sound about

correct to you?

A. I don't know.

MR. BRENNAN: If that is the date of

the deed, we would certainly agree to that.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. I recognize in 1986, you were 13 years old,

but I will ask you the questions anyways.

Prior to your father and Mr. Corey acquiring

the parcel which is now the Borden Light Marina, what

was the use of the land?

A. Railroad switching yard and abandoned

shacks. Actually, they were inhabited shacks.

Q. And had you seen the land at or about the

time your father and Mr. Corey acquired that land?

A. Um-hum -- yes.

Q. Under what circumstances did you go out to

the land?

A. Going down there with my father.

Q. I see.

A. But people started burning the shacks.

Q. What people started burning the shakes? The

people --

A. The people that were living in the shacks

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along the water. They started lighting them on fire.

Q. Okay. It is then my understanding John Lund

and Brian Corey conveyed that parcel, which is 3.1

acres plus or minus, to Borden Light Marina, Inc. in

1989. Is that your understanding, as well?

A. Yeah.

Q. What use, if any, was made of the property

from 1986, to that deed in 1989?

A. They primarily were doing site work cleaning

up all the old shacks, garbage.

Q. And you said they were primarily doing site

work. That would be your father and Mr. Corey; is

that correct?

A. [Witness nodded head.]

Q. Did you participate at all in any of that

site work that was being done?

A. No.

Q. And is it fair to say that the purpose of

that site work was to -- in order to utilize that land

for a marina?

A. And condominiums up above.

Q. Okay. I'm confused by that. Why don't you

do this: Why don't you describe what the property

looked like from 1986 to 1989, starting at the

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waterfront and going up to where you say the

condominiums --

A. It was an abandoned railroad yard with

probably 26-27 shacks that squatters lived in. There

were a bunch down on the south end, and then a bunch

on the north end.

Q. And how close to the water were they

located?

A. On it.

Q. Literally, on the water on the beach front?

A. The embankment went all the way out.

Q. The embankment? What is the embankment you

are referring to?

A. The land at elevation 19 where the railroad

yard is went all the way out to the water's edge.

Q. I am confused by that. As I understand the

land before -- well, as I understand the land the way

it looks now is there is a flat area near the beach

and then at the top there is a bluff where the

condominium complex is.

A. The bluff went all the way to the edge to

the beach.

Q. So the bluff extended downward towards the

water?

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A. It went flat all the way out. Well, you

know, the southerly end, which is always -- that is a

bunch of shacks were there, literally, right on the

beach, and the bluff went up behind the shacks.

Q. There was a bluff going up behind the

shacks?

A. Correct. And in the middle it just went

right out to the shore. And then the other shacks

were at the northerly end.

Q. Once again, were they near the beach area?

A. They were right on it. If you go on the

beach today, you will still see the stilts.

Q. Were there bluffs on the northerly end as

well?

A. No. The bluffs were at the northerly end.

The bluffs were kind of in the middle of the property.

Q. And what separated the beach from the

bluffs?

A. Nothing.

Q. So the bluffs -- I take it -- were the

bluffs and the beach the same elevation, or did the

land extend up towards the bluff?

A. No. There was just a cliff that came down

behind the buildings.

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Q. Okay. So the way I think you just described

it with your hands is that you had the top of the

bluff; correct?

A. It went all the way out. You know where the

swimming pool is, right?

Q. I know where it is, yeah.

A. The bluff went out over where the swimming

pool was.

Q. But I am trying to get the elevation as it

extends toward the beach.

A. It just was a shear cliff. It went straight

down.

Q. What was on the shear cliff?

A. Nothing.

Q. Was there rock? Was there sand? Was there

vegetation?

A. There was just gravel and debris and trash,

tires, couches.

Q. And this debris that you just described, was

that cleaned up between 1986 and 1989?

A. Correct.

MR. SEIGENBERG: I am going to mark as

Exhibit No. 1 a document entitled, Plan of Land in

Fall River, Massachusetts drawn for The Green River

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Realty Trust," and it is dated November 17th, 1981,

revised April 12th, 1982.

MR. BRENNAN: Is that a recorded plan?

MR. SEIGENBERG: It is, yes.

MR. BRENNAN: Is there a book and page

we can put on the record?

MR. SEIGENBERG: There is. That is

recorded at Book 72, page 8.

MR. BRENNAN: Thank you.

(Deposition Exhibit No. 1, theabove-referred to Plan of Land inFall River, Massachusetts drawn forThe Green River Realty TrustNovember 17, 1981, Rev April 12,1982, was marked foridentification.)

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. You are now looking at Exhibit No. 1.

Looking at Exhibit No. 1, it is depicted in the middle

Mount Hope Bay. That is, obviously, where the water

was located; correct?

A. Um-hum.

Q. And the location of the water hasn't changed

since this plan was drawn in 1986; correct?

MR. BRENNAN: Could you read that

question?

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MR. SEIGENBERG: Sure. I'd be happy to

do it.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. I take it the location of the water hasn't

changed since 1986?

A. No.

Q. On this plan there is depicted land known as

"The Green River Realty Trust." Do you see that, sir?

A. Yes.

Q. And is that your understanding -- and there

is a property line drawn going from Almond Street over

towards Club Street. Do you see that property line,

sir?

A. Yes.

Q. Is that the land that your father and Mr.

Corey acquired in 1986?

A. I don't know.

Q. Now also depicted on this plan are two lots.

One is -- actually, one is simply known as "Lot 1."

Do you see that, sir?

A. Yes.

Q. And are you able to in any way locate where

that land is? Do you know where that land is where it

is depicted as Lot 1?

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A. Yes.

Q. The area where Lot 1 is, is that your

understanding where the condominium complex -- at

least a portion of the condominium complex is now

located?

A. Yes, some of it.

Q. And next to that to the right of Lot 1, if

you look at the map, there is another parcel, which I

don't see a lot number, though. I would have thought

it would have been Lot 2. And that is also a portion

of the condominium land, correct, sir?

A. Yes.

Q. Now you described the bluff area. That is

the top of the bluff. Is the top of the bluff area

located on the land known as "Lot 1" and the parcel

next to it?

A. Where is the scale here?

Q. There is a scale at the top.

A. Yeah. My memory was it came out a little

further.

MR. BRENNAN: Can we go off the record

for one second?

[Off-the-record discussion]

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

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Q. What I am asking you, sir, looking at

Exhibit No. 1 can you tell us, based on Exhibit 1,

your memory of what the land looked like?

A. What I remember is all the flat, empty land,

the shacks down here on the north end, and the shacks

over here on the north end and the shacks over here on

the south end.

Q. Why don't you do this, if you would, sir:

Tell you what -- here is a red pen. On Exhibit 1 why

don't you put in where you believe the shacks were

located. And recognizing this plan -- we don't have a

scale to utilize.

A. I know they were there, and I know they were

here in this area. [Indicating]

Q. Could you put an "S" in the area where you

believe the shacks were located in 1986. Or write in

"shacks." That's fine, too.

A. [Witness complying]

Q. Now you described -- I assume there was a

top of the bluff; correct?

A. Correct.

Q. And you said the bluff went down like a

cliff towards the water. Could you depict -- why

don't you utilize -- here is a pink. Why don't you

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put in, if you would, where the top of the bluff was

based on your recollection?

A. No, because I was 13, and I don't remember.

Q. Fair enough.

A. I've got an idea it was in this area. But

--

Q. Why don't you tell me in general, based on

your idea, where do you believe the top of the bluff

was?

A. Just like I said, it was in the belly.

Q. In the belly of what, sir?

A. In between the shacks in this area. It is

hard -- because I think the condos come all the way

over here today. They come to like here.

[Indicating]

Q. Why don't we utilize the other plan. Maybe

that will be more helpful. I believe I do.

A. They dug a lot of it out and put a lot of it

up top.

Q. When you say "they dug a lot of it out and

put it up top," what do you mean by that?

A. They dug out the bluff and they put it up

top to get this elevation out of the flood plain.

Q. Who did that work?

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A. I don't know. It could have been Keith

Development.

Q. And you understood that Keith Development

was the company that developed the condominium

complex; correct?

A. Correct.

Q. Or it could have been your father and Mr.

Corey; is that correct?

A. No, because their responsibility was to take

the shacks down; that is what they did. Unless -- it

could have been more, but that was my memory.

Q. Your best recollection is -- and once again

I assume your father would have a better recollection

of this; correct?

A. Correct.

Q. Your recollection is that your father and

Mr. Corey took down the shacks that were located on

the property they acquired; correct?

A. Correct.

Q. And it is your recollection that Keith

Development did the development work, or the site work

up towards the bluff area where the condominiums were

to be constructed?

A. Yeah, because they needed the fill.

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Q. So the answer to the question was yes?

A. Yes.

Q. Now is it your -- do you know when the

condominium complex was built?

A. I think it was -- they first started selling

it around '87, or '88.

Q. Was any of the soil removed from the bluff

to create the marina?

A. Yeah.

Q. Tell me how that was done, to your

recollection?

A. I don't know. I mean that was the idea, but

I don't remember how they did it exactly.

Q. Is it your understanding the soil from the

bluff area was used as fill?

A. Up on top.

Q. Up on top of what?

A. The soil from the bluff was used up by The

Landing.

Q. By the condominium complex up top?

A. Correct. They added to the elevation.

Q. Okay. When was the -- do you know when the

marina opened up for business?

A. Eighty-eight and '89.

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Q. And could you describe what the marina

looked like in 1988 and 1989?

A. It had A, B, and D Dock. There was a

retaining wall built in the middle of the property,

and there was a retaining wall on the southerly end of

the property line, and you had the main clubhouse and

three docks.

Q. Now you indicated you have A, B, and D Dock.

How many docks do you have currently?

A. A through H.

Q. How many slips when you had A, B and D Dock?

A. Originally approved it was 410.

Q. But how many were constructed?

A. Probably, 90 -- 80.

Q. And you also said there was the main

clubhouse?

A. The main -- yeah, the main clubhouse was

there.

Q. Where is that located -- is that located on

the northerly end of the property?

A. No. It is the one right by the pool.

Q. I see. Is that clubhouse still there?

A. Um-hum.

Q. And has any additional construction been

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done on the clubhouse since the original construction

back in 1988 or 1989?

A. An outside deck.

Q. Now were you aware of any conversations that

occurred between your father and/or Brian Corey and

anybody from Keith Development relative to the

construction of the condominium complex, for example?

A. I mean, was I aware? Yeah, I was aware they

had conversations, I guess.

Q. Well. Okay. How were you aware of

conversations?

MR. BRENNAN: You're testifying as to

what you know.

THE WITNESS: I know they had

conversations.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. And how do you know they had conversations?

A. Because I seen them together.

Q. And you said you saw them together. Who did

you see together?

A. John Keith and my father and Brian.

Q. And do you recall any of the conversations

that occurred between John Keith and your father and

Brian Corey?

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A. No.

MR. SEIGENBERG: I am going to mark as

Exhibit No. 2 a deed from Leo Kelly, Trustee of the

Green River Realty Trust to John Lund and Brian Corey

dated September 30th, 1986, and recorded at Book 1724,

Page 301.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. I ask you, first of all, do you recognize

that, sir?

A. Yeah I've seen this.

(Deposition Exhibit No. 2, theabove-referred to Deed datedSeptember 30, 1986 from Green RiverRealty Trust to John C. Lund andBrian R. Corey was marked foridentification.)

MR. BRENNAN: Are the handwritten

notations part of the recorded document do you know?

MR. SEIGENBERG: Where it says "See

Order of Conditions"?

MR. BRENNAN: Correct.

MR. SEIGENBERG: As far as I know, yes.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Do you understand this to be the deed from

the Green River Realty Trust to your father, John

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Lund, and Brian Corey to the land where the marina is

now situated?

A. Yes.

Q. If you look at page 2 of Exhibit 2 it

indicates that the property that was conveyed to your

father and Brian Corey was subject to a visual

easement for the benefit of Lot 1 and Lot 2. Do you

see that, sir?

A. Um-hum.

Q. What is your understanding of that visual

easement?

A. It was designed so that we would not build

any buildings, or have any structures -- buildings 19

feet above sea level.

Q. And was it your understanding that visual

easement was to allow the condominium complex that was

either in existence, or be constructed so they would

have views over Mount Hope Bay?

A. It was done -- one portion of the property

was going to have a high-rise. Another portion of the

property was going to be lower units, which was The

Landing. And we originally were going to have

buildings down low. And they didn't want the

buildings built up high to block the views of the

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condos behind it.

Q. And what do you base this understanding on,

sir?

A. The original plans that were filed and just

from conversations over the years.

Q. All right. Let's talk about the original

plan that was filed. What original plan are you

referring to?

A. I think the original one back in 1986 showed

some buildings along the retaining wall.

Q. When you say "the original plan," is that a

plan recorded at the Registry of Deeds, or some other

plan, sir?

A. No. That was just a plan as a concept in

the beginning. And then the rules changed, so the

buildings couldn't go in because then you have -- my

memory was you had all the flood plain rules changed.

So in order to put those buildings there, they were

going to have to go up above the 19 feet. So then the

plan got changed.

Q. Let's talk about the original plan.

Describe where was this original plan filed, or who

was it prepared for?

A. I think it was prepared for the state, but

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it was more of a conceptual. It showed the condos, a

marina, and the high-rise.

Q. Can you identify more definitively the plan?

A. It has got to be the plan back right around

'86, '87.

Q. Do you have a copy of the plan?

A. I can look. I have looked, but I mean it

just had piers. It didn't really define slips. It

was more of a conceptual.

Q. In your answer you indicated it was based on

the conceptual plan. And what was the other part of

your answer? Do you recall?

A. No.

Q. Let me ask it again, then. What was the

reason for this visual easement?

A. My understanding was they did not want us to

build structures to take away the views of the units

behind it.

MR. SEIGENBERG: I'm just going to take

a break. I need to grab one other plan here.

[Recess; 10:44 to 10:47 a.m.]

MR. SEIGENBERG: We are going to mark

as the next Exhibit, which will be Exhibit No. 3, a

plan that's entitled "Division of Land in Fall River,

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Massachusetts belonging to Green River Realty Trust"

dated July 14th, 1986.

(Deposition Exhibit No. 3, theabove-referred to Plan Division ofLand in Fall River, Massachusettsbelonging to Green River RealtyTrust, July 14, 1986, was markedfor identification.)

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. I am going to show you what has now been

marked as Exhibit 3, which I believe is referenced in

-- if I can find Exhibit 2 -- in Exhibit 3 is

referenced in Exhibit 2.

Now looking at Exhibit 3, sir, is it your

understanding that Lot 1 and Lot 2 as shown on Exhibit

3, that is the land of The Landing -- the condominium

complex; is that correct?

A. I think so.

Q. Lot 3, that is the property that was

acquired by first your father, John Lund, and Mr.

Corey, and then conveyed to the Borden Light Marina,

Inc.; correct, sir?

A. Correct.

Q. Specifically relative to the visual

easement, looking at this plan, which is marked as

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Exhibit 3, what was your understanding of the intent

of that visual easement?

A. To not erect structures in front of Lots 1

and 2 that would block the views.

Q. So structures -- are you saying structures

would not be erected on Lot 3; is that correct?

A. No, that is not what I said. I said in

front of Lots 1 and 2.

Q. You are saying structures would not be

erected in front of Lots 1 and 2; is that correct?

A. There is -- it's like due west of this point

right there.

Q. And are you indicating that -- strike that.

Would you agree, sir, that the structures would not be

erected in front of Lots 1 and 2 so that people on

Lots 1 and 2 would have a view of Mount Hope Bay?

MR. BRENNAN: I object to the form of

the question. You can answer.

THE WITNESS: They would have a view of

the marina, but they wouldn't have a building built up

in front of them that blocked their view.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Blocked their view of what, sir?

A. Of the water.

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Q. And the water in this location is Mount Hope

Bay; is that correct?

A. Or Taunton River. I think it's --

MR. BRENNAN: Well we can agree the

plans is Mount Hope Bay.

THE WITNESS: I am wondering where

Mount Hope Bay ends and where the Taunton River

starts. I think it starts at the bridge. Yeah, I

think so.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Now referring to Exhibit No. 2, which is

September 30th, 1986, what was on Lots 1 and 2 at that

time?

A. I don't remember.

Q. And what was on Lot 3 at the time of the

deed in September 30th, 1986?

A. All the shacks.

MR. SEIGENBERG: Mark as the next

Exhibit a document entitled "Visual Easement," which

is recorded Book 1724, page 306 as Exhibit 4.

(Deposition Exhibit No. 4, theabove-referred to Visual Easementdated September 30, 1986, wasmarked for identification.)

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BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Have you seen this document, sir, that has

been marked as Exhibit No. 4?

A. Yes.

Q. And based on your understanding, the visual

easement that is granted here on Exhibit 4, is this in

any way different from the visual easement referred to

in Exhibit 2, sir?

A. I think it takes the public walkway out.

Q. Any other differences, sir?

A. It says "structure," as opposed to erecting

a structure.

Q. Here is Exhibit 4, sir. There is a

difference of Exhibit 2 and Exhibit 4 how, sir?

A. The developer didn't want to build the

walkway. He wanted us to build the walkway.

Q. And was that why -- my understanding there

was a release of that right to utilize the public

walkway?

A. It was a release, I guess, from him that he

didn't have to build it; that we would build it.

Q. But as for the visual easement itself, other

than this issue of a public walkway, is there

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difference in your mind -- is there any difference

between what is contained in Exhibit 2 and Exhibit No.

4, sir? And this is your understanding.

A. My understanding is so that no buildings

would be built in front of the units to block their

view.

Q. And once again, you base that on what, sir?

A. Just how I interpret the word "structure"

and what it says and my knowledge that when these

properties were in the eyes of the dreamer, there

would be a marina down front, condos behind, and over

to the left would be a high-rise. The idea was the

high-rise wouldn't get built in front of the lower

units blocking their view.

Q. And this high-rise that you are referring

to, was that contemplated to be built on what is known

as "Lot 3," sir?

A. Correct.

Q. And who was going to build this high-rise on

Lot 3?

A. I don't know.

Q. How do you know there was a plan to

construct a high-rise on Lot 3?

A. Because I have seen it, and it went through

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a MEPA review.

Q. You said you saw the high-rise?

A. There was part --

Q. Did you see it in a plan, sir?

A. Yeah. I saw it in a plan, and it was part

of the Environmental Impact Study that was done.

Q. Do you have a copy of that plan?

A. I got a copy of the Environmental Impact

Study. I mean I have the Environmental Impact Study.

Q. And this is the original --

A. Like in '87 or '88.

Q. And this was the so-called "MEPA Approval;"

is that correct?

A. I don't know. I think the department

changed it. My understanding they have, right.

Q. They have, yeah.

A. So it is the Environmental Impact Study. I

don't know who that group was.

Q. You are saying that the original

Environmental Impact Study that was filed included a

high-rise to be constructed on Lot 3; is that correct,

sir?

A. And 410-slip marina.

Q. And this high-rise, where was that --

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looking at Exhibit No. 3, sir -- looking at 2?

A. This one is better.

Q. On Exhibit 3 why don't you put in red where

the high-rise was going to be located according to

that plan that was filed.

A. Right here. [Indicating]

Q. You labelled that how, sir?

A. "HR."

Q. As high-rise. I take it that high-rise was

never constructed; is that correct?

A. Correct.

Q. Why was that high-rise never constructed?

A. My assumption would be market conditions.

Q. Now that area -- that land that is depicted

by "HR" where the high-rise was going to be, is that

property now owned by the Apple Tree Realty Trust?

A. I think it is not a realty trust. I think

it is Amiralty, Inc.

Q. When was that property conveyed to

Admiralty, Inc.?

A. Don't know.

Q. Was it in the 1980's?

A. I don't know.

Q. And what, if anything, is currently

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constructed on that land owned by Admiralty, Inc.?

A. A parking lot.

Q. Parking lot and a --

MR. BRENNAN: Wait for a question.

THE WITNESS: Well there is something

--

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Is there something else there besides the

parking lot, sir?

A. Yeah. A retaining wall built by John Keith

Development.

Q. Sir, from your understanding, was the visual

easement granted to Keith Development originally in

order to further Keith Development's goal to develop

that property -- his property as a condominium

complex?

MR. BRENNAN: Objection to the form of

the question. You can answer.

THE WITNESS: It is my understanding it

was done so that there wouldn't be any buildings in

front of the views of the condos.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Why do you utilize the word "buildings,"

sir?

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A. Because that is how I understood it.

Q. What do you base that on?

A. Just my memory.

Q. Memory of what?

A. Just reading things over the years.

Q. So your memory is simply based on reading

things; correct, sir?

A. Yeah. The idea was -- the concept was, like

I said, it was for a high-rise and the low-rise

buildings, and the marina. The high-rises were taken

off. They didn't want another one built in front of

them.

Q. Who didn't want it built in front of them?

A. The Keith Development. And I think they

wanted those shacks down.

Q. Um-hum. Well the shacks, sir, how high were

the shacks?

A. Oh, they were high. I don't know the

elevation, but they were two -- three stories.

Q. Now at the time that this visual easement

was granted, which is shown on Exhibit 4, in 1986,

were you aware were there any plans -- had any plans

been filed relative to the condominium complex that

was proposed?

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A. I'm not aware of that.

Q. Were you aware what the intentions were

relative to the condominium complex back in 1986?

That is how many buildings were going to be

constructed there?

A. No. I mean I was 13. I mean I knew it was

going to be done. I can't tell you how that was going

to be laid out.

Q. Okay. And that is something that your

father would have a better understanding of?

A. Um-hum.

Q. That's a "yes"?

A. Yeah.

Q. So you are not aware of any conversations

that occurred prior to the execution of this visual

easement, which is shown on Exhibit 4, relative to the

visual easement?

A. No, not to my knowledge.

Q. Okay.

MR. SEIGENBERG: Off the record.

[Off-the-record discussion]

MR. SEIGENBERG: We will mark Exhibit

No. 5 a document entitled "Elevation Plan of the

Landing Project, The Landing, Shore Drive, Fall River,

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MA," prepared by Mount Hope Engineering, Inc.

MR. BRENNAN: The date?

MR. SEIGENBERG: Where is the date?

MR. BRENNAN: 9/18/09.

(Deposition Exhibit No. 5, theabove-referred to Elevation Plan ofThe Landing dated Landing, wasmarked for identification.)

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Sir, what I would like you to do on what has

been marked as Exhibit No. 5 -- first of all, if you

could -- do you see the elevations that are depicted

where it says "top of wall"?

A. Um-hum, yeah.

Q. Do you agree those are depicted elevations

according to mean sea level? Do you understand that

to be the case, sir?

MR. BRENNAN: Could you point out where

the notations are for the elevations so that we are

looking at the same figures?

MR. SEIGENBERG: Happy to do it. Top

of wall, for example 19.92; top of the wall 20.68.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. I'm referring to the elevations marked on

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this plan at the top of the wall. Do you see that,

sir?

A. Yes.

Q. Based on your understanding, sir, do you

agree with those designated elevations?

MR. BRENNAN: Are you asking him if

they are accurate?

MR. SEIGENBERG: Based on his

understanding, correct.

THE WITNESS: I mean I would assume so,

if they did it.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Have you ever had -- strike that. Have you

ever been involved in having an Elevation Plan

prepared to determine mean sea level on this site?

A. At some point I'm sure.

Q. When would that be?

A. I don't know.

Q. Have you, or anyone for Borden Light Marina

ever attempted to determine the elevations of various

structures that are located on Lot 3; that is the

marina's property?

A. Yes.

Q. And who did that work?

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A. Mount Hope.

Q. Did Mount Hope Engineering prepare an

Elevation Plan for Borden Light Marina, as well?

A. I don't know. I think in multiple plans

they have drawn they have shown what the elevations

are. I don't know if they did just an Elevation Plan.

Q. Have you reviewed those plans, sir?

A. I have seen them, yeah.

Q. And based on your memory, sir, do those

Elevation Plans differ in any way to the elevations

that are depicted on Exhibit 5?

A. Well, anything he really did for us -- you

don't have what the grade of the marina is, or the

docks and stuff.

So I don't think -- I don't know if I ever

had him do this top-of-wall stuff. But I mean Mount

Hope is our engineer, as well.

Q. What I would like you to do, sir -- I would

like to talk about the construction activities that

occurred in the marina since, let's say, since 1989.

Specifically, let's deal, first of all, with the wall.

It is my understanding, sir, over a period

of time a retaining wall had been constructed on the

property of Borden Light Marina; correct, sir?

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A. Correct.

Q. What is the first wall that was constructed

on the property of Borden Light Marina since 1989?

A. Right there. [Indicating]

Q. Why don't you do this: Start this one with

a red pen, and if you could draw in where you believe

that wall was constructed. And if you could just put

down -- you believe that was in --

A. No, that's not it. Maybe over here to

around here. [Indicating]

Q. Why don't you color that area in, sir, so we

are clear as to where that wall was constructed.

A. You want me to color in the whole thing?

Q. Please. Slow down, slow down. That was

done what year, sir?

A. Don't know. That was one of the earliest

walls constructed.

Q. That was prior to 1990; is that correct?

A. Correct.

Q. And do you know if that was done before, or

after 1986?

A. After 1986.

Q. So that wall would have been constructed

somewhere between 1986 and 1989; is that correct?

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A. Correct.

Q. Could you then label that as "1986 through

1989" wall?

A. [Witness complying].

Q. And based on your understanding, sir, who

constructed that wall?

A. I don't know. I believe S & S Concrete.

Q. Under whose direction was that wall

constructed?

A. Borden Light Marina.

Q. And are you aware of any conversations that

Borden Light Marina had with anyone from The Landing

prior to the construction of that wall?

A. No.

Q. What was the next section of wall that was

constructed, sir? I have some different color pens.

A. This was all done at the same time.

Q. Use your red pen.

A. But it was only half; that got added onto by

Keith Development.

Q. So that area you depicted again -- strike

that. You just depicted a wall starting from the

northerly end of The Landing property; correct?

A. Correct.

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Q. And how long does that wall extend, if you

know, sir?

A. The distance?

Q. Yes.

A. One inch is 60 feet. Maybe -- I don't know,

400 feet.

Q. Approximately, 400-foot section --

A. Maybe, a little bit less. Less than 300

feet, I guess. I don't know. I need a ruler.

Q. So a wall was constructed, approximately,

300 feet going from the northerly end of the landing

property?

A. Correct.

Q. And that was done in 1986-1989; is that

correct, as well?

A. Um-hum.

Q. That was performed at or about the same time

that the wall depicted near Building No. 6 is located;

correct?

A. Correct.

Q. And once again, looking at this Elevation

Plan, the Elevation Plan also depicts various

buildings with numbers. Do you see that, sir?

A. Yes.

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Q. And would you agree that plan fairly depicts

the buildings that are located at The Landing

property?

A. Yes.

Q. And those building numbers refer to the

various condominium buildings at the complex; correct?

A. Yes.

Q. Now in 1989, sir, were there any other

concrete -- strike that. Were there any other

retaining walls along the boundary of The Landing

property and the marina's property?

A. Yeah, right here. [Indicating]

Q. And when were those constructed?

A. Right in that same timeframe.

Q. Also '86 to '89?

A. Yeah. And somewhere in here, but I don't

know where that was. [Indicating]

Q. And once again, these are from 1989, or

earlier, correct, sir?

A. I believe so.

Q. And were these done at the direction of the

marina, as well?

A. Yes.

Q. And who performed these walls?

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A. This was --

Q. Once again, when you say "this" --

A. This section here. I don't know the name of

the company. It was -- I don't think they are still

around.

Q. Now the section of wall that you are showing

which is next to the northerly end wall, when was that

constructed?

A. That was constructed around '88 -- '89, as

the same timeframe as the others.

Q. If you could put down "1988 to 1989." And

you also showed another --

A. '86 to '89.

Q. And you also showed another small area of

wall located near Building 4; correct, sir?

A. I don't know if that is the exact location.

I would have to look at the photos. But it was in

this area.

Q. So when you say "this area," you mean near

Building 4; correct?

A. Building 4, Building 5.

Q. If you would -- what year was that wall

constructed?

A. Somewhere between '86 and '89, is my

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recollection.

Q. Now once again, that section of wall that

you placed near Building No. 4 that was done under the

direction of Borden Light Marina; correct?

A. Correct.

Q. What was the purpose of the construction of

those four areas of wall from 1986 to 1989?

A. To hold back the slope. We cut back into

the embankment to create room at the lower elevation.

Q. You indicated you cut back into the

embankment. What was in the embankment at that time?

A. Gravel.

Q. All gravel?

A. Um-hum -- yes.

Q. No sand, sir?

A. Not to my memory.

Q. Was there any vegetation on that embankment

that was cut into?

A. I don't think -- here this was all

unearthened [sic] slope.

Q. I'm sorry?

A. This was all exposed slope. So there really

wasn't -- even when these buildings were built, there

was just an empty slope eroding.

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Q. The slope, sir, what was that composed of,

though?

A. It was just shear dirt like one-to-one

grade.

Q. You originally just said it was gravel.

A. Well, gravel. I'm not a dirt expert.

MR. BRENNAN: Dirt, gravel sand, if you

want to distinguish, maybe he can.

MR. SEIGENBERG: I'm trying.

MR. BRENNAN: Dirt, gravel and sand, I

don't think he knows the difference.

MR. SEIGENBERG: I give your client way

more credit than that.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Sir, do you know the difference between sand

and gravel?

A. Yeah, I know the difference between sand and

gravel.

Q. Let's try this again. Before the embankment

was cut into in 1986 to 1989, what was the composition

of the slope?

A. Well you mean before it was cut into by us?

Q. Correct.

A. It was cut into by Keith Development.

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Q. I'm sorry?

A. It was cut into by -- my memory was that

they cut into it first because they used the gravel to

go up top here.

Q. Okay. And that --

A. That was just left open, exposed bank.

Q. And when do you believe that Keith

Development did some excavation work?

A. It was prior to pouring these foundations.

I don't remember when that date was.

Q. Was it prior to 1986?

A. It was prior to when those foundations went

in.

Q. When Borden Light Marina did the excavation

to construct the walls, what was the composition of

the slope that was excavated?

A. Memory, gravel slope.

Q. So no sand, no vegetation, right? Is that

your testimony?

A. That is my memory. Were there weeds and

trees and stuff like that growing? I don't remember.

Q. Do you have any photographs of that slope

prior to the excavation that was done by Borden Light

Marina some time between 1986 and 1989?

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A. Yeah.

Q. When was the last time you looked at those

photographs?

A. Probably, I think it was the last threat of

a big storm prior to this one when we emptied

everything out. I'd say, probably, three years ago I

had them out. We moved from the smaller office to the

big office.

Q. Do you still have those photographs in your

possession?

A. Somewhere, yeah.

Q. Do you know where they are?

A. No. I've got to look. You don't know where

photos are from 25 years ago, do you, at the top of

your head?

MR. BRENNAN: Dan, I do have many

photos that I am producing for you in response to your

request. I've got them from him, and I have had them

for awhile. They may be the same photos. I'm not

sure.

MR. SEIGENBERG: I appreciate that. I

guess that is part of the difficulty. I am doing a

deposition, and I am now hearing of photographs which

I haven't seen. It makes it difficult for me; that's

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all.

MR. BRENNAN: I understand. And I

wasn't holding them back. It's just due to my

schedule, not to Mr. Lund's that they haven't been

produced.

MR. SEIGENBERG: Okay.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Now prior to constructing those walls --

strike that. Those walls that were constructed

between 1986 and 1989, what were they made of?

A. Concrete and sheet piling and concrete

blocks.

Q. And why don't we go through the various

walls here. Let's start from the northerly end. The

first area of wall, what is that wall made of?

A. Poured concrete.

Q. Could you write in "poured concrete"?

A. Yeah.

Q. You put down "Poured C," is that correct?

A. Yeah.

Q. The next area of wall?

A. Sheet pile.

Q. And then the next area of wall, which is

near Building 6; correct? What is that?

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A. Yeah. The pool is right here, right, at The

Landing?

MR. SCHNITZLEIN: Building 7.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Yeah, Building 7, right.

A. Somewhere right in this area. Yeah, that is

poured concrete.

Q. Do me a favor. Can you write it somewhere

so we can actually read it? You wrote down "poured"?

A. Yeah.

Q. Can you put "concrete" below it?

A. It says it right here. It's labelled on the

plan.

Q. And the next area of the wall is near

Building No. 4.

A. That was blocks.

Q. And do you know if Borden Light Marina

obtained any permits prior to constructing those walls

between 1986 and 1989?

A. No.

Q. Do you know why not?

A. I don't know if we did, or we didn't.

Q. Okay. Fair enough. So to answer your

question, you don't know if any permits have been

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obtained or not?

A. For that, no.

Q. Do you know if any Notices of Intents were

filed with Conservation Commission for the walls that

were constructed from 1986 to 1989?

A. I know that from the original Waterways

License a portion of these walls were on

Commonwealth-filled tide land. So in order to get

that license, we must have filed a Notice of Intent.

Q. Putting that aside, sir, do you know if a

Notice of Intent was filed prior to constructing those

walls between 1986 and 1989?

A. I can assume so.

Q. That is simply based on you have a Waterway

License?

A. Correct.

Q. You recognize Conservation Commission is a

local-level Board?

A. Yeah, but that is part of one of the steps

to going before waterways.

Q. Let's talk about that. Are you currently a

member of the Fall River City Council?

A. Correct.

Q. How long have you been a member of the Fall

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River City Council?

A. Going on three years -- almost three years.

Q. From 2008 to 2010; is that correct?

A. Correct.

Q. Have you served in any other boards in the

City of Fall River?

A. The Port Authority and the State Pier.

Q. And what is the name of the Port Authority

Board?

A. Fall River Port Authority.

Q. And what is the responsibility of the Fall

River Port Authority?

A. Kind of overall general governing over the

port of where the Fall River State Pier building is.

Fall River has got a DPA Designated Port Area. So it

is in charge of trying to attract commerce and

development of the port.

Q. Is Borden Light Marina located in that area?

A. I believe we are outside of the DPA.

Q. And what year were you on the Fall River

Port Authority?

A. 1995, maybe -- '96 to present.

Q. And what was the other -- State Pier Board?

Is that what you said?

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A. Fall River State Pier.

Q. And what is the Fall River State Pier Board?

A. They, specifically, run the State Pier

Building.

Q. And where is the State Pier Building

located?

A. Water Street.

Q. And where is that relative to the Borden

Light Marina property?

A. It is half a mile up river.

Q. And how long have you been on that Board in

Fall River?

A. Same timeframe.

Q. 1995 -- 1996 to the present?

A. Yeah. Maybe a little bit later than that.

At least, 10 or 12 years.

Q. Let's go back to this plan that you marked

as Exhibit No. 5. What was the next construction, if

any, relative to any walls on or near the property?

A. I think --

Q. Let's not use the red pen.

A. I think Keith built this one over here, and

he added onto this one. Those were the next ones.

Q. Let's talk about the add-on. You are saying

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that the wall that was constructed by Borden Light

Marina between 1996 and 1999, in the northerly end of

the property was added onto by Keith Development?

A. Yes.

Q. When did Keith Development add on to that

wall?

A. I think around '91, or '92 -- early 90's.

Q. That would have been before you did your

wall work in 1996 to 1999. You just said 1991?

A. This wall was built between '86 and '89.

They added onto it in the early 90's. Right here this

is 300 feet, and they built this wall from scratch.

Q. So all these walls you've depicted are 1986

to 1999?

A. 1986 to 1989. The three that you have

labelled here.

Q. And you are saying Keith Development added

onto the northerly portion of the wall in what year

again?

A. It was early 90's; whether it was '91 or

'92. I don't remember.

Q. And what -- without marking it, what section

of the wall -- in what way did Keith Development add

onto that wall?

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A. This wall was four-feet high. The wall was

four-feet high, and they added onto it. They

increased the height of it.

Q. So the wall that was constructed by Borden

Light Marina was four-feet high; correct?

A. In certain sections. And then Keith added

onto that.

Q. And what did Keith do to add onto this

four-foot wall?

A. What do you mean?

Q. You indicated there was a wall constructed

at Borden Light Marina that was, approximately, four

feet in elevation; correct?

A. In two areas. Then it rose up in the middle

and flattened out. And then Keith came and built up

those two areas. What?

Q. Let's try it again. Describe the wall --

A. I can draw it. Do you want me to draw it?

Q. Let's just try it with words, if you could.

You are indicating the northerly end of the property

from 1986 to 1989, there was a wall constructed by

Borden Light Marina; correct?

A. Correct.

Q. Describe that wall for me.

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A. It came, roughly, around four feet out of

the ground in for a period on each end, and then rose

up in the middle, and then flattened out.

Q. And how high was it in the middle?

A. Ten -- I'd say 10 feet then, based on this.

Probably, 10 feet in the middle -- 10 or 11 feet.

Q. So then you are saying Keith Development

came in after 1990, and increased the height of that

wall; correct?

A. Of the lower portions of it.

Q. That were four-feet high?

A. Correct.

Q. And how high did Keith Development --

A. He matched it to whatever that other

elevation was.

Q. So they levelled off the wall; is that

correct?

A. Yeah. So this is saying 20-and-a-half feet

-- elevation 20-and-a-half.

Q. Do you know what the elevation is at the

bottom of that wall in the northerly end?

A. I think it's around 10. The property slopes

a little bit for drainage. So I don't know, exactly,

what it is there.

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Q. Was that wall that was added onto by Keith

Development, was that done with the permission of

Borden Light Marina, if you know?

A. Yes.

Q. And tell me the circumstances under which

Keith Development added onto the wall?

A. They asked if they could do it.

Q. And who did they ask?

A. My father.

Q. Were you present during that conversation?

A. No.

Q. So whatever you know about what Keith

Development discussed with your father came from

conversations with your father; is that correct?

A. Correct.

Q. What did your father say about the add-on by

Keith?

A. That they wanted to add on to the height of

the wall.

Q. After the add-on of the wall by Keith

Development, what is the next area of wall that was

constructed?

A. The 90-foot wall that they built over on

this side of the property. It, basically, went from

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this corner back to Almond Street.

Q. You are saying there was a 90-foot wall

constructed at the far right-hand side of Building 11

going to where it says "top of the wall 21.26;" is

that correct?

A. Correct, back to Almond.

Q. And what year was that constructed?

A. The same timeframe as when they made the

additions.

Q. So early 1990's?

A. Yeah.

Q. If you would depict that in pink where that

wall was done by Keith Development. Not the add-on,

just the additional.

A. [Witness complying]

Q. If you could just label that with the

approximate year and put down "Keith."

A. [Witness complying]

Q. What is the next construction of wall that

was performed along this line, sir?

A. Right here and here again.

Q. Okay. What was done there? When you're

saying "there" and "here," you are talking about the

wall that was constructed by Keith Development that

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extends out to the 21.26 elevation mark; correct, sir?

A. That comes to Almond Street. They came

back. They dug it all out. And they dug out in front

of the wall. And they put a buttress in and

backfilled that all with stone and drainage.

Q. Was that done with permission, as far as you

know, of Borden Light Marina?

A. Correct.

Q. What was the next construction work, if any,

that was performed along this line?

A. I think, but I'm not positive. I think in

this area.

Q. So you are saying "this area." Where is

that relative to the building, sir?

A. In front of Building 8. A continuation of

that earlier sheet-pile wall.

Q. When was the building of the wall done in

front of Building No. 8? Would you agree it was after

2000, sir?

A. No, I don't know that. I really don't

remember.

Q. Can you give me any approximation?

A. I would have to go look and try and find

some old photos. I am pretty sure that was the next

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piece that was done was right here. I don't know if

it was into 2000. I think it was late 90's.

Q. What do you base that on, sir?

A. Nothing really. Just trying to -- 15 years

you built little pieces at a time.

Q. Yeah. Do me a favor. Don't guess. I do

want approximations, if you have them.

A. I, honestly, don't know.

Q. Why don't you put that in yellow where the

wall -- the next piece of wall was constructed located

in front of Building 8. You just put in yellow;

correct?

A. Correct.

Q. You agree that wall was built in either the

1990's, or in the 2000's; correct?

A. I think so.

Q. Why don't you, if you would, label that wall

as 1990 slash 2000's. The area you now depicted in

yellow and written down "1990's-2000," what material

is that wall made of?

A. Sheet pile.

Q. Who constructed that wall?

A. I believe the same company that built this

earlier portion.

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Q. Which is who?

A. I don't know the name of it. It was the

same guy, but I think he had a different name.

Q. Do you know if Borden Light Marina obtained

any permits, or approvals prior to constructing the

wall that is highlighted in yellow which is also

labelled on the plan as a shoring wall?

A. No, I don't.

Q. What is the next area of wall that was

constructed?

A. I think down here this area.

Q. And that is located where on the plan, sir?

Near what buildings?

A. Building 6 and 5.

Q. And when was that constructed, sir?

A. I don't know. I'd have to look.

Q. Would you agree it was after 2000, sir?

A. I think yeah, that's true. That's

definitely in the 2000's. Yeah, that is in the

2000's.

Q. And we are running out of colors here, but

let's use pink again. If you would put in pink the

area that was constructed after 2000?

A. I mean it all was constructed 2000, but I

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don't think this was all built in one shot. So I

think that was the first time we did it.

Q. What year do you believe that wall was

constructed and completed, sir?

A. I don't know. It would be in the 2000's,

but I don't know if it is '02, or '04, or '06.

Q. Would you agree it would be somewhere

between 2002 and 2006?

A. Yeah, I think so.

Q. So why don't you label that wall "2002 to

2006." And that area of wall is in front of Building

6 and depicted in pink, correct, sir?

A. Correct.

Q. And did you obtain any permits or approvals

prior to constructing that wall? That is "you"

meaning Borden Light Marina?

A. I don't know.

Q. Who would know?

A. Probably, my father.

Q. Would anyone else know?

A. No.

Q. So you are the President of Borden Light

Marina, correct, now?

A. I am now, yes.

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Q. Are you the person primarily involved with

this litigation that we are involved with?

A. I think my father is involved with it.

Q. Are you primarily involved in it, sir? The

person who is acting on behalf of Borden Light Marina

in this litigation?

A. Yes.

Q. Are you aware there was a Request For

Production of Documents -- a second Request for

Production of Documents that was sent to you asking

you for any permits or approvals relative to any

construction work?

A. I'm aware that all those are public

documents.

Q. That's not my question. Were you aware that

there was a second Request for Production of Documents

that was sent to Borden Light Marina this year that

asked for any permits or approvals?

A. I know there was a request 10 years ago, and

we did everything then. I don't know since then.

Q. Were you aware that a request was made in

August of 2010, through your counsel, entitled "Second

Request For Production of Documents."

A. I know there was one request. I don't

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remember if there was two.

MR. SEIGENBERG: Mark as Exhibit 6 a

correspondence dated August 23rd, 2010, to Edmund

Brennan enclosing Plaintiff's Second Request for

Production of Documents, and attached to that Second

Request for Production of Documents collectively as

Exhibit 6.

(Deposition Exhibit No. 6, theabove-referred to Cover letterdated August 23, 2010 to Edmund J.Brennan Jr., Esq. from Daniel R.Seigenberg with Second Request forProduction of Documents was markedfor identification.)

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Sir, can you take a look at Exhibit 6 and

see if you have seen either one of those documents

before?

A. No. I mean that is what my lawyer does. He

may have mentioned it to me. I don't remember.

MR. SEIGENBERG: To save time would you

agree you, in fact, received what has been marked as

Exhibit 6?

MR. BRENNAN: Yes. I don't dispute

that.

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MR. SEIGENBERG: Do we also agree there

has been no response to that request?

MR. BRENNAN: That's correct. I have

assembled many documents, but I have not turned them

over to you as of yet. We are still searching

records. The files go back 25 years, and we are going

through them. And I have assembled many, which I am

prepared to turn over to you. I can't say the search

is yet complete.

MR. SEIGENBERG: Okay.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Let's talk about No. 6, sir. Specifically,

we asked for any applications, requests, including,

but not limited to any application for Building

Permits, Superseding Order of Conditions, Notice of

Intent, etc. filed with any governmental agency

relative to any construction work perform by Borden

Light Marina, Inc. within 100 feet of the property of

the Plaintiff from the period of 1999, to the present.

Mr. Lund, you are aware that request was

made; correct?

A. In some fashion. I haven't heard it in that

wording.

Q. What efforts, if any, have you made to

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obtain any of those documents within Request No. 2?

A. My understanding is those are public

documents.

Q. Let me ask the question again. What, if

anything, have you done to produce any of the records

within Request No. 2?

A. I have been going through stuff for old

photos and things of that nature.

Q. This Request No. 2 talks about any

applications, requests as I've just described. Based

on your search, sir, have you found any applications

or requests for governmental approval for any of

construction work performed from 1999, to the present?

A. No. I mean I'm sure it's there. I haven't

found it. We don't have a big office. So --

Q. What efforts, if any, have you made to

attempt to find those documents, sir?

A. I have been going through my stuff at the

office to the extent my lawyer asked for them.

Q. Have you found any of those documents, sir,

as of today?

A. Yeah, he has got stuff with him.

MR. SEIGENBERG: Ed, I don't mean to

make -- well, I guess I am making an issue of this.

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It makes it almost impossible to do the deposition,

especially where the witness says he doesn't know.

MR. BRENNAN: I understand. The

records -- many of the records were turned over to my

office, and I am the one who is going through them.

So to the extent that there is anything in the records

that hasn't been recorded at the Registry, I have bits

and pieces of it. If I have to go to the Registry and

have photocopies made, it is all public information.

I have assembled responsive documents, and I

am in the process of putting them together for you.

But primarily, the search of the records has fallen

upon myself and not the client.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Sir, as you sit here today, are you aware of

any applications or requests for permits that Borden

Light Marina has made relative to any construction

work that was performed from 1999, to the present?

A. Yeah. I mean I'm sure there has been some.

Q. Based on your memory, sir, what applications

or requests has Borden Light Marina made from 1999 to

the present relative to any of the construction

activities?

A. So in the last 12 years?

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Q. Right.

A. We have gone to Conservation; gone to DEP.

Q. This is prior to the work being performed,

sir. Do you recall that?

A. We've gone to the Building Department. I

think we went before the Zoning Board.

Q. Zoning Board of Appeals?

A. Yeah. The Licensing Board; Health

Department -- Conservation, Building, DEP, and both

Wetlands and Waterways. I think that's it. I don't

think we ever went to Planning.

Q. Once again -- let's try this again. Looking

at the construction that was performed between 2002

and 2006, depicted in pink near Building No. 6, did

Borden Light Marina obtain any Building Permits, or

any other approval prior to constructing that

particular section of wall? Yes or no?

A. I think so.

Q. And what, particularly, did they apply for

sir, if anything?

A. I think somewhere along the line there was

an Order of Conditions, but I don't remember.

Q. Somewhere along the line there was an Order

of Conditions, but you don't remember?

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A. No, I don't know. I can't tell you when it

was issued.

Q. Was it before that section of wall was

constructed?

A. Yeah, I think so. I believe it was a

Superseding Order of Condition. And my reason for

memory of that when Dan Gilmore was last there, he

said, "Why didn't you build all the wall when I gave

you the last Order of Conditions?"

Q. Was that from the local Conservation

Commission, or DEP?

A. State.

Q. You went to DEP?

A. Yeah.

Q. Your recollection is before constructing

that wall that is depicted in pink near Building No.

6, you obtained approval from DEP; is that correct?

A. Correct.

MR. SEIGENBERG: And Ed, is that in

your possession?

MR. BRENNAN: I will be happy to go

through these with you now. If you want to take a

break, I can show you what I have.

MR. SEIGENBERG: We will take a break.

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MR. SEIGENBERG: Relative to request

No. 2 in Plaintiff's Second Request for Production of

Documents the parties have taken a break and

Defendant's counsel has provided me with some Order of

Conditions and one Notice of Intent. Is that a fair

statement, Ed?

MR. BRENNAN: Yes.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Mr. Lund, other than the Notice of Intent

that your attorney has provided me to look at, are you

aware of other documents in the possession, custody,

or control of Borden Light Marina that are responsive

to Request No. 2?

A. Not at this time. I mean other than the

Superseding Order of Conditions that you've got.

Q. Once again, a Superseding Order of Condition

would be an order issued by an agency. I was looking

for anything that Borden Light Marina filed such as

applications, Notice of Intent, etc.?

A. No. I probably didn't hang onto those.

Q. Have you attempted to make a search of any

records that were available to you, including with any

governmental agencies. Did you obtain any of those

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documents, sir? Yes or no? You personally.

A. We have looked through some of the boxes

trying to get organized and see what I can find.

Q. But have you produced any of those records,

sir?

A. No, not yet.

Q. Let's continue on relative to the wall.

What is the next -- strike that.

When the work was done in front of Building

No. 6 between 2002 and 2006, can you describe,

precisely, what the work consisted of?

A. Excavating the bank and driving in sheet

pile.

Q. That is a sheet-pile wall?

A. Correct.

Q. And is that depicted -- can you write then

in black "sheet pile"?

A. That is what these jagged edges are.

Q. Prior to constructing that wall in front of

the Building No. 6, did you file any Notice of Intent

relative to that construction with DEP?

A. Yeah. I think that is what that order --

Q. What order? Can you show me an order, sir,

that covers that?

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A. The Superseding Order that you got from the

DEP.

Q. Which one, sir? Maybe you and your counsel

can point that out to me.

A. This, or the other one.

Q. Which one?

A. I don't know. I know that this one covers

it because that is the one where The Landing dropped

their Appeal of the Order of Conditions so the

construction of the wall could take place.

Q. When you say "the wall," you are talking

about the wall we just described there?

A. That wall in other areas.

Q. I'm confused. Sir, you did construction at

various times. Borden Light Marina did construction

at various times excavating the coastal bank. Agreed,

sir?

A. Excavating with the coastal bank my

understanding of it is what is called a

"natural-occurring bank." This isn't a

natural-occurring bank.

Q. Let me rephrase the question.

A. If the question is the embankment, yes.

Q. Let me rephrase it. Sir, Borden Light

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Marina, since 1999, has done construction work?

A. Correct.

Q. Where they've excavated the bank; correct,

sir?

A. Correct.

Q. And also constructed retaining walls;

correct, sir?

A. Correct.

Q. My question is -- and that construction work

was done at various times from 1999 to the present?

A. Correct.

Q. My question is, sir, prior -- before doing

that excavation and construction work, did you file

Notice of Intent with DEP?

A. Yeah. That's part of it.

Q. For each time you did the construction work?

A. No, because they granted, I think, initially

for three, and then can extend it.

Q. Help me out, sir, and explain it.

A. It says it right there.

Q. No. The question, though, sir -- so let's

talk about the construction that was done --

A. There is -- in that early 2000's, the

portions of the wall constructed were covered under

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that Superseding Order of Conditions. In order to get

a Superseding Order of Conditions, you know you have

to file a Notice of Intent. It was appealed by your

client -- The Landing.

Q. I know.

A. So you know the answer to the question you

are asking, and you have the appeal. It then went up

to the DEP Administrative Law Judge, in which case The

Landing then withdrew their appeal. And this was the

resulting order which allowed for the construction to

then take place in phases over the next few years.

Q. Okay. So let's just try the simple answer

first. The simple question is prior to performing any

of the excavation of the bank and construction of the

retaining wall from 1999 to the present, did Borden

Light Marina file a Notice of Intent with DEP

requesting approval to do so? Yes or no?

A. In the cases of the wall that you are

talking about here --

Q. Sir, let me try it again. I am talking

about all the excavation and all the walls that have

been constructed since 1999. The question is a fairly

simple one.

Prior to doing the excavation work and

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constructing the retaining walls, did Borden Light

Marina file a Notice of Intent with DEP relative to

said excavation work and construction of the wall?

A. Yeah, and the result was the Superseding

Order of Conditions that you have before you.

Q. And was there one Notice of Intent filed for

all the walls that were constructed after 1999, sir?

A. No. I think there were more.

Q. But you don't have any of these Notice of

Intents?

A. No. I don't have a memory of it, but I know

in early 1999's there was a Notice of Intent that was

filed.

Q. In the early when?

A. It had to have been -- what is the timeline?

When was that issued, '99? In order for that to be

issued a Notice of Intent had to get filed for that

order. I think that got issued in -- what does it say

-- May of '99, or something.

Q. There is a date on this of May of 1999.

A. Okay.

Q. Which is a Final Order of Condition.

A. I know before that order there was a Notice

of Intent filed to allow the construction of the

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walls.

Q. All the walls that were constructed from

1999, to present you are saying were covered by your

initial Notice of Intent and then the Order of

Conditions?

A. No. Subsequently, that expired.

Q. My question is when you filed the Notice of

Intent, that became part of this Final Order of

Conditions issued in 1999. Was the request to

construct -- was the request to excavate the bank and

construct retaining walls for all the remaining areas

covered in that Notice of Intent?

A. That was the intent is to be able to finish

all the walls --

Q. So that is what the notice --

A. -- all the way down the property line.

Q. That is what the Notice of Intent covered?

A. Correct.

Q. You are saying the Final Order of Conditions

that were issued in 1999, gave Borden Light Marina

authority, at least through the DEP, to construct

those walls and to excavate the bank; correct, sir?

A. Correct.

Q. Was there an appeal of that Final Order of

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Conditions?

A. Just the opposite. The Landing dropped

their appeal of the locally-issued Order of Conditions

and agreed to the Superseding Order issued by the

Wetlands Division.

Q. So the answer to the question is then it is

your testimony that Borden Light Marina obtained

approval from DEP to excavate the bank and construct

these retaining walls that were performed from 1999,

to the present; correct, sir?

A. Correct.

Q. All this approval was done prior to the

excavation and construction work; correct, sir?

A. That approval for these portions down here;

that's my memory.

Q. Of what? You've got to answer the question,

though.

My question was you had Order of Conditions

issued from DEP approving the excavation of the bank

and the construction of all the walls that were done

from 1999 to the present prior to any of that work

being performed. Is that your testimony, sir?

A. You said it two different ways. So the

intent from that order was to give us the ability to

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construct all of the walls that had not been

constructed and excavate the bank, yes.

Q. Okay.

A. Did it cover -- I think it covered a lot of

them, yes.

Q. But that's not the question.

A. But you asked it twice.

Q. No. I don't want to argue with you. The

question is real clear. Let's do this: I will come

back to it. How's that? Let's continue on building

our walls here, okay?

A. All right.

Q. What is the next excavation and construction

of walls that was performed?

A. I think it was this area of sheeting right

here. There is a continuation of this sheeting here

where the pink ends.

Q. When was that done, sir?

A. My guess is after '06. I mean I got to

check the pictures.

Q. That is in front of Building No. 5, sir?

A. Correct.

Q. Why don't you with black just sort of write

that in?

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A. [Witness complying]

Q. Put down the date, sir.

A. [Witness complying]

Q. And what work was done in 2006, relative to

the excavation and construction for the continuation

of the sheeting wall?

A. Excavating the bank back and then driving in

the sheeting.

Q. And what was the next group of -- what was

the next area excavated and walls were constructed?

A. I think it was this part here. [Indicating]

Q. Once again put that in black, as well.

A. 2007 and 2008.

Q. Construction of a block wall; correct?

A. Correct.

Q. That would have been done in front of

Building No. 7?

A. Correct.

Q. And can you just color in the area along the

line where the wall was constructed?

A. [Witness complying]

Q. And what is the next area that was done,

sir?

A. That was down here.

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Q. So once again, you are going from the

southerly end, correct, near Club Street; correct?

A. Here, and it was here. [Indicating]

Q. And if you could depict what year -- what

year was that done, sir?

A. I think this is '08.

Q. And describe -- first of all, what did the

bank look like prior to the construction?

A. Down there this was all overgrown weeds and

stuff on it.

Q. And was there a slope?

A. Yeah. Probably, two-to-one.

Q. And what work did Borden Light Marina

perform in that area, which is in the far-southerly

end of The Landing property?

A. We excavated the entrance, or an entrance

and put the wall between us and King Phillip up and

came around the corner and I think ended just before

-- just after the corner of Building 3.

Q. And did you do any further excavation and

construction?

A. No because I think this is the same time. I

don't know. Maybe, that was it. It came to about

here, I think.

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Q. And one other area that hasn't been colored

in in any way near Building 3 and Building 4. Was a

wall constructed in that area?

A. That was the last area that we did the wall.

Q. When was that done, sir?

A. '09.

Q. And why don't you put that in yellow, sir,

the work that was performed in 2009. Can you describe

the work that was performed?

A. Excavated a --

Q. First of all, could you label that as

"2009"? And what type of wall was constructed? Once

again a block wall; correct?

A. Correct.

Q. And describe the work that was performed.

A. Excavating the back and installed a block

wall.

Q. And who performed that work?

A. Furtado Excavating.

Q. And has Furtado Excavating performed any of

the other construction work that you described?

A. They constructed this portion.

Q. The one near Club Street; is that correct?

That was performed in 2008?

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A. Correct. They constructed the portion that

was put up in 1986.

Q. Um-hum.

A. That was here that we took out and re-did.

They constructed this portion here in '08.

Q. Now prior to doing any of this excavation

and construction work, did you have any conversations

with Furtado as to what permits you had, or what

permits you were required to have before this work

could be performed?

A. No.

Q. What relationship, if any, do you have with

Furtado Construction?

A. He has carried our excavation here over a

period of 15 -- 20 years.

Q. What other excavation work has Furtado done,

other than what you just described?

A. He did this wall. He did the wall here.

[Indicating]

Q. If you could describe the walls you are now

showing?

A. The block wall.

Q. Formed when?

A. 2008. He did the block wall over here.

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[Indicating]

Q. Which is in the far, northerly end of the

property, correct, towards Almond Street.

A. He put in the drainage on the lower

property, utilities.

Q. My question is really about the

relationship. First of all, who is the principal at

Furtado Excavating?

A. I think it's James Furtado.

Q. You think it's James Furtado?

A. As opposed to his wife. I don't know if

it's under his name or his wife's name.

Q. Do you know James Furtado?

A. Yeah.

Q. How long have you known James Furtado?

A. Probably first met him in Dartmouth 20 years

ago.

Q. Under what circumstances did you first meet

Mr. Furtado in Dartmouth 20 years ago?

A. He was clearing a roadway for my father.

Q. Okay. And is it fair to say that Furtado

Excavating has performed work for you, or your father,

or your entities for in excess of 20 years?

A. Yes.

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Q. And are you friends with Mr. Furtado?

A. Do I go out socially with him?

Q. Let's try it that way. Do you have a social

relationship with Mr. Furtado?

A. I am friendly with him, but other than going

out to eat lunch when he is here working, I don't go

out and dine regularly with him, no.

Q. Does he have any connection at all to the

marina? He doesn't store a boat on the marina, does

he?

A. No.

Q. What about your father? What is his

relationship with Mr. Furtado?

A. It's, essentially, the same as mine. He

started doing work for my father years ago and he has

done pieces of it.

Q. So you and your father have a business

relationship, but not a social relationship with

Mr. Furtado; correct?

A. Well I mean the guy does work for you for 20

years. I mean he's obviously -- you think of him in a

high regard. He goes camping; I go boating.

Q. Okay. So would you describe it that way

that you have a business relationship with

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Mr. Furtado? Your father has a business relationship

with Mr. Furtado? Because of over 20 years of doing

business together, you're friendly, but you don't have

a social acquaintance?

A. No. I consider him a friend. If I call him

and ask him to come do something, he tries to make it

a priority because I am a good customer and we

developed a friendship.

Q. Okay. And is your father's relationship

similar to that?

A. I think so.

Q. Let me ask that question I tried to ask you

a while ago. We have now constructed the whole set of

walls. We have done the excavation work. Have all

those areas -- were all those areas covered by your

Notice of Intent and Order of Conditions issued by

DEP?

A. They've all been covered from day one. They

didn't get constructed in the same -- in the time

parameters of some of them, but they have been on

every plan since 1987 -- '88.

Q. Let me ask it another way. Prior to doing

all that excavation work and all the walls that are

depicted on the plan, did you have approval from DEP

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to perform said work before the work was done?

A. On the walls?

Q. Let's break it down. On the walls, yes.

A. I think I believe for the most part. I mean

there was a portion here that was approved locally

that we said was on the plan, and therefore, it's

covered.

Q. Let me try it again. Do me a favor. You

are trying to go beyond my question. I will try it

again. Relative to the construction of the walls that

we've described here, did Borden Light Marina have

approval from DEP to construct those walls prior to

the walls being constructed? Yes or no?

A. I believe we did.

Q. Okay. Did you ever make any request on the

local level to the Conservation Commission to

construct those walls before they were constructed?

A. Yes.

Q. And did you file a Notice of Intent at the

local level, as well?

A. I believe so. I have to.

Q. I understand. And did you, in fact, obtain

approval on the local level prior to constructing all

the walls you have described here; that is from 1999

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to the present?

A. I believe so.

Q. Did you apply for any Building Permits from

the City of Fall River prior to constructing any of

these walls?

A. Since when?

Q. From 1999, to the present. That is before

you constructed any of those walls.

A. The most recent one was the one you are

aware of. Is that a year ago now?

Q. Try to answer the question, if you would.

Did you apply for Building Permits from the City of

Fall River before constructing the walls that were

constructed from 1999 --

A. No, not before.

Q. Okay. Did you apply for Building Permits

for any of the walls that were constructed from 1999,

to the present, before the walls were constructed?

A. I didn't, but I think my father did for

portions of it.

Q. You think?

A. Yeah, but I'm not sure. It was a different

Building Inspector, and I believe he did, but I don't

know.

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Q. Okay. What years do you believe your father

might have filed an application for a Building Permit

for any of the walls?

A. It would probably -- that would have been

prior to 1999.

Q. Okay. So let's stay with 1999, to the

present. Is your understanding -- correct me if I'm

wrong -- it's your understanding that prior to any of

these walls being constructed, you did not -- you

meaning Borden Light Marina, did not apply for a

Building Permit from the City of Fall River; correct?

A. My understanding was that the walls that

were constructed post-1999, were of the same type of

construction of what was approved previously. And so

we were going to be covered.

Q. Still not my question. My question is for

the walls that were constructed from 1999 to the

present, did you apply for a Building Permit for any

of those walls?

A. Not me personally, no.

Q. Did anyone from Borden Light Marina apply

for a Building Permit for any of those walls before

they were constructed from 1999, to the present?

A. I know recently, no. I don't know if going

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back to the late 90's, if my father did.

Q. I know, but my question --

A. To my knowledge.

Q. From 2000 --

A. So in the early 2000's --

Q. Sir, from 2000, to the present, did anyone

from Borden Light Marina apply for a Building

Permit --

A. I don't know.

Q. -- apply for a Building Permit before the

walls were constructed? Yes or no?

A. I don't know. I don't know if my father may

have, and I'm not aware of it.

Q. Based on your knowledge, sir, are you aware

of any Building Permit that was applied for by Borden

Light Marina prior to the construction of the walls?

A. I think there might have been one in the

early 2000's, but I do not know.

Q. All right. Sir, you are a City Councillor.

Are you aware that you needed a Building Permit to

construct these walls?

A. No.

Q. Are you aware now?

A. I am aware now. I was under the impression

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that if the wall was less than 10 feet, you did not

need a Building Permit.

Q. What have you now learned?

A. That you have to get one.

Q. That was true from 2000, to the present;

correct, sir?

A. What was true?

Q. That you needed a Building Permit prior to

constructing these walls?

A. Yeah.

Q. You are saying you didn't apply -- that

Borden Light Marina didn't apply for these Building

Permits because you were not aware it was required;

correct?

A. Well I'm saying I don't know if my father

applied early. I'm subsequently saying that in terms

of the block wall, there was less than 10 feet of

exposure that you did not need a Building Permit. I,

subsequently, found out that they count the footing as

part of the wall, and therefore, had to go get one. I

hired an engineer and went and got one.

Q. Okay. In fact, what Borden Light Marina

did, and you specifically, is you went to the Building

Inspector after the construction of the walls and

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sought approval; is that correct?

A. Correct.

Q. And when was that application made? What

year?

A. I think '09.

Q. And what areas of wall did that Building

Permit cover? Strike that. What areas did that

application cover?

A. The area down the southerly end.

Q. When you say that area on the southerly end

--

A. From the entrance into the marina to,

approximately, right around here to the corner of

Building 5. [Indicating]

Q. So, essentially, what you placed here in

yellow; correct, sir?

A. Correct.

Q. Including the far, southerly end?

A. Correct.

Q. That would have taken you from, basically,

the far southerly end to towards the beginning of

Building No. 5; correct?

A. Correct.

Q. And did you obtain -- did Borden Light

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Marina obtain a Building Permit?

A. Yes.

Q. Do you have a copy of that application of

the Building Permit?

A. No.

Q. Have you tried -- I assume it is public

record at the Building Inspector's Office in Fall

River?

A. I would assume so.

Q. Did you make any efforts to produce that

application to us?

A. To you?

Q. Yes.

A. No, I haven't.

Q. Why not?

A. Because I hired an attorney to handle that

for me.

Q. Okay. Let's talk about any of those walls

that were constructed from 1999 to the present.

Are you aware of any conversations that

anyone had from Borden Light Marina with The Landing

before the walls were constructed; that is relative to

the construction of the walls and excavation of the

bank?

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A. Yes.

Q. What conversations are you aware of?

A. We talked about erecting the wall, cleaning

up the embankment. As it was constructed we placed

the wood split-rail fence with a new fence. You're

talking about the last ten years?

Q. Right. Basically -- we will get to the

specifics any way you can do this. I am asking you,

for example, when did these conversations occur?

A. What do you mean in the last 10 years?

Q. Correct. When you had conversations with

representatives of The Landing.

A. They took place from '99 -- 2000. The last

conversation I had with them was in the fall of 2009.

Q. Let's talk about that. The last

conversation you had was fall of 2009. Who was the

conversation with?

A. Marcel Daquay and Paul Beattie.

Q. And where did the conversation occur?

A. Rebecca's Restaurant on Rodman Street.

Q. And what was said?

A. They asked me to add onto the wall between

the corners of Buildings 3 and 4.

Q. And what did you say, if anything?

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A. I said I would, but I asked if I could wait

until the spring because we were trying to clean the

area up and make it look nice. It was at the time of

when customers come down in that part of the fall to

look at your facility to sign up for the following

summer. So it was important to me that we didn't have

a ton of equipment running around trying to do that.

And in the spring when the boats were launched, then I

would add onto the wall and put the rest of the fence

up that I purchased and I'm still sitting on.

Q. Was that the extent of the conversation?

A. We talked about lights. They told me they

didn't care about the lights.

Q. What lights are you referring to?

A. Some lights that were put down the southerly

end. They said that was not of their priority. Their

concern was they wanted to have more level ground at

the buildings of 3 and 4. And if I could raise the

height of the wall one block, like I did in this area

in the other corner of Building 3, and like I did down

by Building 7.

Q. And did you add that other block?

A. No.

Q. So once again my question, though -- try to

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respond to my question. And I appreciate the answer,

by the way.

My question was really before the excavation

work was done and the walls constructed, did you have

any conversation with any representative of The

Landing about that excavation and construction work?

A. Yeah.

Q. So the fall of 2009, would have been after

the work; correct -- conversation?

A. The fall of 2009, was yeah, at the

completion of it they asked before I wrapped up could

I do this.

Q. Okay. What was the next conversation prior

to the one in the fall of 2009, about that subject

matter?

A. The conversation prior to that was about

whether or not --

Q. When was that, first of all?

A. I don't know. It was before that fall

conversation. Earlier in that summer they had already

approached me about adding on the block and offering

to pay for it. And then they came back and they said

that they didn't think they could pay for something

that wasn't on their property. And I said "Fine." I

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said, "I'll do it like I did it in the earlier spot.

I just ask to wait until the spring." And then after

that conversation is when we met at Rebecca's.

I mean going back to the 2000's with the

different Board and Jackie Dore and Joe Castonguay and

some of the others, we talked about constructing the

walls similar to the fashion at which they were and

shoring up the embankment. And that happened over the

period of the next eight -- nine years.

Q. You said the summer of 2009, conversation.

What was the conversation next prior to that?

A. You mean next, or before? I'm sorry.

Q. I'm sorry. You're right.

MR. BRENNAN: Next prior, that is

always confusing.

MR. SEIGENBERG: Yes, thank you.

THE WITNESS: Probably, going back to

when we are going to get started here.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. You are talking about the construction that

was performed --

A. Oh, no. We are talking about -- are you

talking about when I, officially, sit down with the

Board? Because there was informal discussions with

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different Board members.

Q. I will tell you where I'm going with this.

Let me try to help you out here, okay.

MR. BRENNAN: Can we go off one second?

MR. SEIGENBERG: Absolutely.

[Off-the-record discussion]

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Has anyone from The Landing ever given you

authorization to construct the walls that have been

constructed since 1999?

A. Yeah.

Q. Okay. Who?

A. Jackie Dore.

Q. And when was that permission given?

A. It is around 2000.

Q. By letter? Not by conversation? By letter;

correct?

A. No, by letter.

Q. Okay. Have you produced that letter?

MR. BRENNAN: Just give me a minute.

MR. SEIGENBERG: Sure.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. What position, if any, did Jackie Dore have

with The Landing?

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A. She was the Chairperson.

MR. SEIGENBERG: I am going to mark

Exhibit 7 correspondence December 8, 2002, from John

Lund to Jackie Dore.

(Deposition Exhibit No. 7, theabove-referred to Letter datedOctober 8, 2002 to Jackie Dore fromJohn C. Lund was marked foridentification.)

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. I am going to show you what has been marked

as Exhibit 7 and ask if you recognize that letter,

sir?

A. Yes.

Q. That was a letter written to your father,

John Lund?

A. Correct.

Q. Were you present when your father signed

that letter?

A. No, probably, not.

Q. Did you have discussions with your father

about signing that letter prior to the letter being

sent out?

A. Yes.

Q. Do you know where that letter was obtained

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from?

A. What do you mean?

Q. Was this something you obtained from records

that you kept by Borden Light Marina?

A. I think my attorney had it.

Q. Well where did your attorney get it from?

MR. BRENNAN: Yeah. It was in the

documents that were given to me to cull through.

MR. SEIGENBERG: Thank you.

THE WITNESS: I apologize. I didn't

understand the question.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. As far as you know, this is a letter that

you, or some representative of Borden Light Marina

gave to your attorney that was kept in Borden Light

Marina; correct?

A. This was part of going back when that Order

of Conditions got issued to construct these walls

because it was all kind of a part of that.

My point is Ed was around back then. I

don't know if you already have it, or it is something

that I recently found in the bucket and handed over.

Q. Are aware of any oral conversations that

took place relative to this October 8th, 2002, letter

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with The Landing at South Park?

A. Yeah. I mean there were multiple

conversations.

MR. SEIGENBERG: We will mark as

Exhibit No. 8 correspondence dated October 10th, 2002,

from The Landing at South Park.

(Deposition Exhibit No. 8, theabove-referred to Letter datedOctober 10, 2002 from The Landingat South Park to Mr. Lund wasmarked for identification.)

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Sir, do you recognize Exhibit No. 8?

A. Um-hum -- yes.

Q. What do you recognize that to be?

A. It was a communication from people on the

Board at The Landing to continue to build the

retaining walls.

Q. And is there anything in writing that --

that looks like a so-called offer -- strike that. It

looks like an offer from The Landing to have certain

work performed with certain conditions. Would you

agree?

A. Yes.

Q. And was that offer ever accepted by the

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marina and the conditions contained therein?

A. I don't know what my father did. He didn't

sign it.

Q. Now the October 8th, 2002, Borden Light

Marina letter, Exhibit 7, talks about adding 100 feet

of wall; correct?

A. Correct.

Q. Where was that 100 feet of wall that was

referred to in Exhibit 7?

A. I don't know if it's here or here.

Q. So you are indicating it is either the

yellow portion near Building 8, or the pink portion

near Building 6; correct?

A. Correct.

Q. Are you aware whether or not Borden Light

Marina accepted these conditions pertaining to Exhibit

8 -- are you aware whether Borden Light Marina

accepted the conditions contained in Exhibit 8?

A. No, I don't know if they accepted all of

those conditions.

Q. Did that 100 foot of wall that is referred

to in Exhibit 7 and Exhibit 8 get constructed?

A. Yes.

Q. And when was that construction done?

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A. It is one of these portions here. I don't

know the exact dates.

Q. Was it done in 2003 do you know? Or you

just don't know?

A. My feeling is the idea behind it was to get

going right away and eradicate an open-face bank and

keep going and building the walls.

Q. You are aware there was a Preliminary

Injunction issued by the Land Court in this case?

A. Correct.

MR. SEIGENBERG: Mark that as an

Exhibit.

(Deposition Exhibit No. 9, theabove-referred to PreliminaryInjunction dated May 23, 2000, wasmarked for identification.)

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. We have just marked Exhibit No. 9, a

Preliminary Injunction issued by the Land Court dated

May 23, 2000. Do you see that, sir?

A. Yup.

Q. That is the Injunction issued by the Land

Court; correct?

A. Correct.

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Q. Now prior to constructing that 100-foot

stretch of wall that is referred to in Exhibit 7 and

Exhibit 8, was the Preliminary Injunction modified in

any way?

A. Not to any knowledge.

Q. Do you know why not?

A. I think because the attitude back then of

both the Board and the marina was they saw it mutually

beneficial to construct the walls and solidify the

bank. And we were doing so in concert. And nobody

wanted to go back to Land Court.

Q. Specifically, looking at Exhibit 8 it

indicates that assuming these conditions are

accepted -- The Landing talks about both parties

agreeing on the above. We agree to modify the

injunction from working within 20 feet of the property

line, which would seem to me to indicate that The

Landing was well aware of the Injunction and was

willing to modify it provided those conditions were

accepted. Would you agree with the content of that

correspondence in Exhibit 8?

MR. BRENNAN: I object to the form of

that question. It's a written document and speaks for

itself.

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MR. SEIGENBERG: I need an answer, sir.

THE WITNESS: No. All I can do is

speak to what the attitude of the Board was and what

the attitude of the marina was. And to the extent

they were getting along and the wall was going up and

everybody was happy, that was the direction we were

going.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. But as far as you know, the conditions

contained in Exhibit 8 were never signed off by the

marina, correct.

A. I don't know.

Q. Your father would know more than you?

A. At the time, if there was a signature to be

had, it would be his.

Q. And isn't there a document that exists as

far as you know that has the signature of your father

on behalf of Borden Light Marina accepting the

proposal of The Landing?

A. I don't know.

Q. So after the correspondence dated October

10th, 2002, from The Landing, were there any other

communications, either oral or written, between The

Landing and Borden Light Marina relative to that

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100-foot wall?

A. Relative to the 100-foot wall, no. I mean I

don't remember.

Q. Is it your view that Borden Light Marina had

permission of The Landing to construct the 100-foot

wall addition?

A. Yeah, that is what I feel.

Q. And why is that, sir?

A. Because that is what the Board members said.

Let's build the 100 feet; see if it works. If it

works, keep going.

Q. When did the Board members say that, sir?

A. At a period of meetings throughout the early

2000's.

Q. Series of meetings throughout the early

2000's?

A. Yeah, or talking with them.

Q. Was any written document ever signed, sir?

A. Not to my knowledge.

Q. Do you know why not?

A. Because the parties -- and my recollection

-- had taken the position that the lawyers had made

enough money litigating it, and that provided that the

walls were going up and people agreed with what was

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there, that that is what would continue to go.

Q. Okay.

A. They liked what we were doing.

Q. They liked what you were doing. In

reference to what, sir?

A. In many areas the embankment was a

one-to-one slope. It had shrubbery growing high up in

the air that they kept asking to prune. They wanted a

nice clean edge running along the top of the bank.

Q. Let's talk about the construction work that

was performed on the southerly end of The Landing

property. Did you have permission from The Landing to

perform that excavation and construction work, sir?

Yes or no?

A. From the Board, or from members?

Q. Of the Board.

A. There was never anything formal from them.

Q. So you are saying there was no agreement

from the Board of The Landing for you to perform that

construction work?

A. I spoke with them multiple times, different

members, and they encouraged and liked what we were

doing. I did not get a formal letter from them, no.

Q. Did you receive oral permission from any

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member of the Board -- of the Board of The Landing to

perform the work that was done at the southerly end of

the property?

A. It wasn't a case of them giving me

permission. It was more of a case of them thanking me

and making suggestions and me trying to abide to them.

Q. Would you agree you did not have permission

from the Board at The Landing to do the work that was

done at the southerly end of the property?

A. The walls at the --

Q. Yes or no, sir?

A. They sat there and they asked me about doing

it. So is that to be interpreted permission?

Q. "They sat there and asked me about doing

it." Okay. When did they sit there and ask you about

doing it?

A. They would come down. They would ask where

it is going to end up. "Do you think you'll finish it

this year?" I said, "Well, I'm going to try and do it

all."

Q. Are you saying these conversations took

place while the construction work was being performed?

A. Some of it was. Some of it came when we

finished the last portion over here. "When are you

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going to go down there and do that?"

Q. First of all, when did that conversation

occur when someone said to you, "When are you going to

go down there and do that?"

A. From Board of Directors?

Q. Yeah.

A. Different members at different times in

casual conversation. There was never a formal meeting

between the two parties.

Q. Okay.

A. They would freely walk down and say, "Hey

are you going to go down there and do what you did

over here?" Saying, "We want to get there."

Q. Who said that?

A. Paul Beattie for one.

Q. Okay. Paul Beattie and Marcel said to you,

"When are you going to construct the rest of the

wall?"

A. Yeah. "When are you going to finish?"

Q. Before the wall was done?

A. Southerly end, yeah.

Q. When did these conversations take place?

A. Around the time this part was included.

Q. Give me a year.

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A. I don't know the year. When this was

concluded. I am guessing this got concluded in the

summer of '08.

Q. So your recollection is some time at or near

the summer of '08, you had a conversation with Paul

Beattie and Marcel in which they asked you, "When are

you going to finish the rest of the walls?"

A. Yeah. And I had conversations with them

prior to '08, about construction --

Q. What did you say? Let's finish this

conversation. What did you say in response?

A. I don't remember what I said, but I can take

a guess. And that is, "As the funds become available

I'm going to try to build out the rest of it."

Because they knew I filed for the Notice of Intent to

do all the work down here and put the drainage in and

put the boardwalk in. They asked about the walls.

And it was all work in concert with that. You can't

put the rest of the road in before the wall is in.

Q. And do you believe in these conversations

that you had with Paul Beattie and Marcel they gave

you permission to construct that wall and do the

excavation work?

A. I believe that they were pleased with what I

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was doing, and they hoped that I would get it done. I

don't think they thought themselves in the position --

I don't know.

The conversations were geared to how -- "Are

you going to improve it? What are you going to do?

When do you think you're going to get it done?"

Q. Referring you Exhibit 9, the Court Order --

the Injunction prohibited the construction work that

was performed by Borden Light Marina on the southerly

end of the portion, for example?

A. Yeah, because it was in violation of it.

MR. BRENNAN: I would like to point out

twice in Court now we have acknowledged to the Judge

that we worked within the 20-foot easement area

subsequent to the issuance of the Preliminary

Injunction. We have agreed. We don't dispute that.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Do you agree any of the work that was

performed by Borden Light Marina after May 23rd, 2000,

in excavating the bank and constructing the walls was

in violation of the Preliminary Injunction of the Land

Court?

MR. BRENNAN: Within the 20-foot

easement.

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MR. SEIGENBERG: Well I think I -- the

excavation of the bank and the construction of the

wall --

MR. BRENNAN: But if you just say

"within the 20-foot easement," then there is no

question. I think you're right on that.

MR. SEIGENBERG: I will try to satisfy

your concerns.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Will you agree with me, sir, that any of the

construction work that was performed after May 23rd,

2009, by Borden Light Marina in excavating the bank

and in constructing the walls, provided it was all

within the 20-foot easement area, was done in

violation of the Land Court Order?

A. Yes.

Q. And your understanding, sir, would you agree

with me that all of the wall that was constructed was

all done within the 20-foot easement area?

A. You mean of the entire property line?

Q. I mean from the point on the northerly end

where it says "top of the wall 21.29" all the way.

A. I think all of the wall since day one.

Q. Is within the easement area?

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A. Yeah.

Q. So given the fact that you are aware that

there was an Order of the Land Court that prevented

the excavation of the bank and construction of the

wall, can you explain to me why Borden Light Marina

did this work?

MR. BRENNAN: It was asked and

answered, but go ahead.

MR. SEIGENBERG: I appreciate that.

THE WITNESS: Because over a series of

years from the late 2000's, both parties came together

and said they viewed the construction of these walls

mutually beneficial. And for the better part of

eight-and-a-half years we were working in concert with

that understanding between the two neighbors.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. And when you did the construction work near

the southerly end of the property, Borden Light Marina

removed a portion of a parking area that was utilized

by The Landing for guest parking; correct?

A. On my access easement.

Q. I appreciate that. But nonetheless, during

the construction that was performed in the southerly

end of the property Borden Light Marina went in and

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excavated away a portion -- excavated a portion of the

parking area -- strike that.

When Borden Light Marina performed the

construction work that was done on the southerly end

of the property, as part of that construction work

Borden Light Marina went in and excavated a portion of

the parking lot area that was utilized by The Landing;

correct, sir? Yes or no?

A. Borden Light Marina excavated portions of

the parking lot area that was within their access

easement, and did so with the full knowledge of the

Board with the long-term goal of even creating a gate

system down there for both our properties. So much so

that when I finished, they published an article in the

paper thanking me. That is what I know happened.

Thanking me for not using all of the land in which I

was entitled to. And they published it in the

newsletter. So that publishment [sic] in the

newsletter is the result of multiple conversations.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Let me try the question again. Here is how

it works: You need to try to answer the question

directly, okay? Otherwise, we will be here longer and

longer. I will ask the question again. It requires a

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yes or no answer.

As part of the construction work that was

performed by Borden Light Marina in the southerly end

of the property, Borden Light Marina went in and

excavated a portion of the parking area of The

Landing; correct, sir? Yes or no?

A. No, because I don't believe you are correct

because The Landing had no right to have a parking

area there. It was Borden Light Marina went and

excavated the land necessary for access to the

southerly point of the marina that it was granted in

two access easements. So if The Landing parked a

vehicle there, they didn't have the right to.

Q. But my question didn't really assume that,

sir. My question was -- I will try it one more time.

Listen.

A. If I park a car anywhere, does that become

my parking area?

Q. Let me ask you the question, okay. As part

of the construction that was performed in 2008, did

you acknowledge that Borden Light Marina excavated an

area that was used by The Landing for parking?

A. Yes.

Q. And that area that was utilized for parking,

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sir, would you agree with me that that was there since

The Landing complex was constructed, which takes us

back to 1989?

A. No.

Q. Okay. When do you think that parking area

was constructed, sir?

A. I don't know. I would have to see the old

photos. But that access easement, there were portions

of it dug out.

Q. I know that, sir. But you indicated it

wasn't 1989. You said "no." So my question is you

must have some idea when you think that parking area

was constructed. And when was that?

A. I would have to go look at the photos. I

don't remember. You are asking me to remember

something 20 years ago.

Q. Prior to excavating the area that was

utilized by The Landing for parking, did you receive

permission from somebody from The Landing to do so?

A. I had conversations with the Board about

opening that up and doing it in a fashion that would

have the least amount of impact on them. That is what

I did. And then they sent in the newsletter thanking

me.

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Q. Okay. My question, I will try it one more

time. Specifically, did you have a conversation with

anybody from the Board where you asked for permission

to excavate a portion of the area that they were using

for parking? Yes or no?

A. The conversation --

Q. Yes or no, sir?

A. Well I am -- I won't answer it. The

conversation -- I'm telling you what conversation we

had.

Q. It doesn't work that way.

MR. SEIGENBERG: Ed, could you please

instruct the witness to answer the question? It does

require a yes or no.

MR. BRENNAN: If it can be answered yes

or no.

THE WITNESS: Did I get permission from

the Board to do that.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. That is the question.

A. Yeah.

Q. Who gave you permission to do that?

A. Let's see who was on the Board then. Bert

Bouffard and Paul Beattie.

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Q. And what did you say to them and what did

they say to you that indicated permission to excavate

a portion of the parking area?

A. "This is what I'm thinking of doing and we

are going to try to save you guys some space for that

parking area." And they agreed with it.

Q. What did they say?

A. They were thankful. They thanked me.

Q. That was my question. When you said "I am

going to excavate a portion of your parking area. I

will try and save some space for parking," their

response was "thank you"?

A. No. I said, "I am going to excavate my

access easement, and I am going to try and recognize

that you need some space up here in my access easement

and do it to have the most minimal effect on you."

They thanked me for that. I then constructed it.

They watched me construct it. And then when the

construction was complete, they published that in the

newsletter thanking me again.

Q. For doing what?

A. For not using all the land that I am legally

entitled to use; therefore, saving deeded parking

spaces, which are illegally deeded to Building 3 and

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guest parking.

Q. Illegally deeded to Building 3? Why is

that, sir?

A. If you don't have the rights to a piece of

property, how do you let people park on it?

Q. Ever hear of a concept called "adverse

possession"?

A. I've heard of that concept.

Q. Did you consider the concept of adverse

possession before you went and excavated the parking

area?

A. No, because I didn't believe it applied.

Q. Why not?

A. Based on advice that I had gotten, it did

not apply.

Q. Was this from counsel?

A. This was from counsel.

Q. Okay.

MR. BRENNAN: Can we go off for one

second?

[Luncheon recess; 1:00 to 1:53 p.m.]

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Mr. Lund, during the break we looked at some

photographs. Do you have any photographs that depict

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the area prior to 1990?

A. Yes.

Q. What photographs do you believe depict

the --

A. There is more than that. I can find them.

Q. There is more than that where? You mean not

with you today?

A. Yeah. I'm sure there are. Do I know where

they are? No.

MR. BRENNAN: I have photographs that

predate the timeframe set forth in the Request to

Produce. I have those. The ones you're thinking of

are probably the ones. I can't say, but I think I

have all the photos, and I will be happy to make those

available. They are black and white. That's how old

they are.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. I am going to show you this photograph which

appears to depict some of the bank area and also some

of The Landing Condominiums. Can you give us an

approximation as to when that photograph was taken?

A. If it faces the other way -- I can't see any

boats. By the boats I can depict timeline is what I'm

getting at.

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Q. Okay. You can't tell us when that -- what

period that photograph depicts?

A. I think this is after -- this is right

around here.

Q. Now that bank on that photograph -- that

grassy bank -- is that a fair and accurate

representation of what the bank looked like when you

were, say, 13 years old back in 1985 -- 1986?

A. No.

Q. How is that different?

A. That fill was all dumped there by us.

Q. Okay. So prior to that, what was there?

A. Well here are some photos.

Q. Those are photographs showing -- these

photographs obviously show the area after excavation

work was done.

A. That is my point. There was excavation work

done, and then there was fill put back.

Q. I understand. I am trying to get a sense of

what the area looked like, though. Obviously, the

deeds in question here go back to 1986, 1989, things

of that nature, before any of the construction work

occurred in the marina and The Landing property.

I am trying to get a sense from the

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photographs that you brought here today what

photographs, if any, depict that bank area prior to

any of that construction work being performed?

A. Yeah, right there -- this.

MR. BRENNAN: Dan, is your question

prior to construction of the condos?

MR. SEIGENBERG: Construction of the

condos and the marina. I'm trying to get a sense from

the witness what the bank area looked like. Why don't

we mark this photograph as Exhibit No. 10? Want to

put it on the back?

MR. BRENNAN: You can put it on the

lower right or left-hand corner. It is large enough.

(Deposition Exhibit No. 10, theabove-referred to Originalphotograph, was marked foridentification.)

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. I show you the photograph marked Exhibit No.

10. There is a bank area with some vegetation on it.

Is that a fair and accurate representation of what

some of the bank area looked like prior to 1986?

A. No.

Q. I thought I asked you to pick out a

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photograph that showed the bank back when you were a

kid.

A. We don't have one.

Q. Okay. How is this bank area different than

it looked like, say, in the early 1980's?

A. My memory is that it came out further and it

was a one-to-one.

Q. It came out further. What came out further,

first of all?

A. One of your earlier Exhibits here. Right

here. See it says "top of slope" and it shows mean

low water. A lot of that was dug out.

Q. I appreciate that. But if you have a top of

a slope, it, obviously, goes down to the water;

correct?

A. No, because there was revetment put in there

by the railroad and big armor stones.

Q. I really, frankly am at a loss how to ask

you the question.

A. I'm trying to answer.

Q. I know you're trying. Showing you Exhibit

10, you said that this doesn't depict the sloped area

because it went straight down. Is that what you said?

A. Yeah.

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Q. When you say "it went straight down," what

went straight down, first of all?

A. The embankment.

Q. It was almost a one-to-one slope? It's

almost a vertical slope?

A. Correct. It got dug out. The fill went on

the top, and they raised the elevation at The Landing.

Originally, the marina was financed to build the whole

thing from one end to the other. And then the

financing got pulled. So a lot that had been

excavated in the late 80's ended up dirt going back in

front of it.

Q. Let me ask you this question, then: Where

the buildings are located in Exhibit No. 10, in this

photograph, is that the approximate height of the top

of the slope back when you were a kid in the 1980's?

A. No.

Q. It was higher, or lower?

A. It was lower.

Q. What do you believe it was from the top of

the slope to the bottom in height?

A. What period?

Q. Early from 1980 to 1985, based on your

recollection hanging around the marina as a kid?

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A. Well in the 20's it was Elevation 10, and

then it got all filled in by the railroad. And it was

filled in I think it was around Elevation 18 or 19.

Q. When?

A. Back before The Landing was built.

Q. Okay.

A. In the 80's.

Q. So in the 80's the elevation at the top of

the bluff was about 18 or 19 feet. And what do you

believe the elevation is now on the top of that bluff?

A. It's right there on the plan.

Q. Right. But use the top of the wall, which

-- it has been built up --

MR. BRENNAN: There are two elevations

on there. It is lawn area grade, and I think LAG is

the grade.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. It's your understanding that what originally

was approximately 18-feet elevation, fill was added on

top when they were doing The Landing construction,

increasing it from two to five, six feet; correct?

A. Correct, to get out of the floodplain.

Q. And the bottom of the bluff, you are saying

it was flat at the bottom of the bluff going towards

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the water line?

A. It was around Elevation 10 in some areas.

Some areas were washed away and some were Elevation 10

and some were a little higher. I mean it wasn't the

same. It was a raw piece of land.

Q. You are aware of the deed that talks about

the sloped, graded easement that is granted to The

Landing. Are you familiar with that, sir?

A. Correct.

Q. What are they referring to when they are

talking about a sloped, graded easement?

A. They are talking about -- my understanding

of it is the area along the property line.

Q. Okay. But during the construction -- when

the construction of The Landing property and the

marina property, that all happened within what, a

several year period of time in the late 80's; is that

correct?

A. Late 80's, early 90's the marina, until this

year.

Q. During that construction process, fill was

added to the top of the bluff where they built the

condominiums, and also fill was sort of backfilled

into the slope so it became a graded slope. Is that

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fair to say?

A. No.

Q. Which one of those statements is incorrect?

A. The second one.

Q. Tell me how that differs.

A. Because it was dug out, initially, as you

can see in some of those photos for the retaining

walls. And then when the financing collapsed, they

took the excess dirt and just piled it over there.

And slowly, over the last 20 years, it pulled away.

MR. SEIGENBERG: Let's mark --

MR. BRENNAN: Those are photos. The

originals of those are in the pile.

MR. SEIGENBERG: I know, right. If we

can mark two photocopies of photos marked as Exhibit

11.

(Deposition Exhibit No. 11, theabove-referred to Two photocopiesof photos, was marked foridentification.)

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Sir, I show you a document marked Exhibit 11

of two photographs. What do those photographs depict?

A. They depict the corner of Building 3 and the

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southerly access point to the marina.

Q. And when do you believe those photographs

were taken?

A. That's probably around '88, '89.

Q. That would have been during the construction

period; is that correct?

A. Correct.

Q. In the top photograph, sir, does that depict

the grade of the slope that existed prior to 1985?

A. No.

Q. How does that differ?

A. The embankment came out further and was a

straight face down, and there were shacks in front of

that.

Q. The embankment came down further. You mean

further towards the water?

A. Came out closer to the water and in front of

it were shacks.

Q. What you are saying is, sir, the top of the

embankment extended further towards the water?

A. Correct.

Q. But it still was steep grade down?

A. And then they had all the shacks. They

probably had eight, ten houses -- not condos -- but

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shacks on pilings all in this area.

Q. I now understand what you are trying to say.

That slope down wasn't a vegetative slope?

A. Yeah. You are going to get growth on it,

but portions of it were eroded and portions had wild

vegetation.

Q. Exhibit 10 shows some vegetation. Is that

an example of the type of vegetation that was on the

slope that existed in the area of Exhibit 11?

A. I'd have to go look. I mean I doubt it

because we hydroseeded this area. So that would be

different than what was there.

Q. During the construction of the marina you

brought some fill in, created a slope, correct?

A. No. We always took fill out. So the fill

got moved from different portions is when the project

got stalled. So there was no fill from outside the

area. When this area came to a halt, the construction

in the late 90's, we went and hydroseeded the bank

while the litigation was ongoing.

Q. My question -- thank you. My question --

currently -- strike that. Before the walls were

constructed in the 90's and 2000's, there was a slope

-- there was a gradual slope leading up to the top of

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the bluff; correct?

A. No, there wasn't. I mean this is your

slope. That is what was there.

Q. Okay.

A. Certain portions.

Q. I don't mean to quibble with you, sir.

A. It changed depending to area.

Q. I know, but --

A. This area -- this wall was constructed in

'87. So when you say, "What did this slope look like

prior to 1990?" It was entirely different than if you

had gone down the property and that is where that was.

Q. Based on your recollection, prior to 1986,

around 1985 -- mid 80's, going from the southerly end

of the property to the northerly end of the property,

please describe the slope.

A. Well in the middle it looked like that.

[Indicating]

Q. You have got to use words, sir. Just use

your own words.

A. Well let me look at the picture closer. I

mean what you have here is an eroding bank that is at

a one-to-one with dead trees that runs down to almost

to the beach.

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Q. Let's try this again. From the southerly

end, what did the bank look like? Use words.

A. From the southerly end you had eight to ten

shacks built on stilts along the water; then you had a

one-to-one face bank that was behind it. Then the

land makes an hourglass. It got very narrow. And it

was eroding and undermined, which is what you see

here. [Indicating] Then as it comes out further, the

embankment came closer to the water's edge.

Q. Where are you referring to?

A. Referring to Exhibit 3.

Q. Use a building number.

A. Well they don't have building numbers.

Q. You have a document in front of you. Why

don't you use the building numbers, okay?

A. I'm not going to say something that comes

back to haunt me. The plan is here. And if you look

at the plan --

MR. BRENNAN: That has been shrunk.

The scale won't work.

THE WITNESS: I don't mean to be

difficult, but you have the line of Lot 1 and 2. It

says "Top of Slope." In this area the embankment is

coming almost out to the historical mean high water

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mark. That is a straight cliff right here. You had

your shacks here. And then you can see it goes in,

and then it came back out. And then you had all your

shacks here that, basically, ran from right here to

all the way to here.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Which was then the top of the bluff;

correct?

A. No. Which was then down at a lower

elevation almost with pilings to the beach.

Q. Okay. I am still not so sure you described

for me what the slope looked like, and I don't think

I'll ever get it from you, I guess.

A. It wasn't the same throughout the 2,000

feet.

Q. The southern end you already told me it was

a one-to-one slope?

A. Yeah.

Q. When did it change from a one-to-one slope

going northerly?

A. It didn't. It is pretty much one-to-one all

the way.

Q. All the way. So from the southerly end to

the northerly end the whole slope was one-to-one,

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basically, a straight-down slope?

A. Yeah.

Q. And whatever gradual slope that you see on

various photographs that you brought here today, that

was all created by fill; is that correct?

A. That was created by changing where this

embankment was in this area.

Q. By changing the embankment, wasn't that

changed by bringing fill in?

A. No. They pushed the embankment back. So

you ended up --

Q. Back towards --

A. Lots 1 and 2. So you ended up with all this

extra fill, some of which Keith Development took and

put on the top, and some of it we pushed down as the

project progressed should we need it.

Q. Okay.

A. We didn't truck any -- you say -- we didn't

truck any fill offsite.

Q. I didn't mean it that way, sir.

A. I know.

Q. I am trying to get an explanation. You told

me in the mid 80's it was a one-to-one slope according

to your testimony. It clearly is not a one-to-one

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now, and those photographs don't show it as a

one-to-one slope. I am only asking in your own words

how this slope occurred. How did it get created?

A. The slope came out -- the embankment came

out, and then pushed to right to probably mean high

water is -- looking at this. And then over the next

20 years, it was excavated and pushed back.

Q. Okay. All right. Now prior to doing any

excavation of the bank and construction of the walls

that have occurred from 2000 on, did you have any

experts, other than the contractor, evaluate the work

to be performed?

A. Prior to when?

Q. From 2000, to present?

A. Yeah. You had the original engineers that

worked on the project. You had original soil tests

that were done to grade the type of soil.

MR. BRENNAN: What timeframe, Dan?

MR. SEIGENBERG: I'm talking about

really from 2000 to present date. I tried to isolate

it to that.

THE WITNESS: Oh, I was talking about

prior.

MR. SEIGENBERG: I know.

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THE WITNESS: Sorry. I thought that's

what you asked.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Prior to performing the construction work,

which included the excavation of the slope, the

construction of the walls from 2000, to the present,

did you have any experts evaluate the work to be

performed?

A. I mean --

Q. Yes or no?

A. I guess the answer is yes because the walls

have been on the plans since 1987. So in '87,

engineers reviewed it. In '87, '88 and '89 samples

were taken out of the embankment. So, yes.

Q. So engineers reviewed the plans in 1987.

Any engineers -- did any engineers review it from

1999, to the present, prior to the work being

performed?

A. Prior to the work being performed, no,

because the project didn't change from what was there.

Q. From 1999, to the present, prior to doing

this construction work we have described, did you have

any expert evaluate the impact on the coastal bank?

A. We had -- the bank didn't change. It is not

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a coastal bank.

Q. From 1999, to the present, did you have any

expert evaluate the impact to the bank?

A. Nobody knew.

Q. Nobody knew what? The question is did you

have --

A. Nobody knew because the bank didn't change

from '87. The soil conditions didn't change from '87.

So you don't need to go and have someone check the

soil again.

MR. SEIGENBERG: Ed, can you help me

out? Can you have your client just answer the

questions? Some of these do call for yes or no

answers.

MR. BRENNAN: Try the question one more

time.

MR. SEIGENBERG: Sure, be happy to.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. From 1999, to the present, did you have any

expert evaluate the impact on the -- impact of the

construction work on the bank?

MR. BRENNAN: May I make a suggestion?

If you ask the question evaluate the impact, if any,

on the coastal bank.

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MR. SEIGENBERG: I will try that.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. From 1999, to the present, did you have any

expert evaluate the impact, if any, on the bank?

A. Outside of the contractor, no.

Q. And how did the contractor evaluate the

impact, if any, on the bank?

A. He took the information provided to him from

when the bank was evaluated the first time, and that,

based on 30 years of his experience constructing this

type of wall, and history at the site.

Q. Did you have any expert evaluate whether or

not the work required MEPA approval? Yes or no?

A. Yeah.

Q. And when did someone evaluate the work as it

required MEPA approval?

A. Back early when the project was started, and

I believe later in 2000-2001, MEPA reviewed it and

said it wasn't subject to an additional review.

Q. Early on, when was that, sir?

A. It wasn't MEPA, but it was in the original

Environmental Impact Study.

MR. BRENNAN: It was MEPA then. It was

DEP that changed. MEPA has always been MEPA.

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BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. What was the date of that?

A. Probably the approval I'm going to '88-'89.

Q. And then you state that you also had someone

evaluate any requirements of MEPA in 2001?

A. Correct.

Q. Who was the individual who you consulted

with?

A. The secretary of MEPA wrote a letter.

Q. The question is did you have an expert

evaluate it?

A. No. The attorney at the time did it,

submitted it to MEPA, and MEPA agreed.

Q. You had an attorney. Who was the attorney?

A. My father.

Q. And what qualifications does your father

have as to an expert on MEPA approval?

A. In terms of interpreting what the regs say

and what constitutes a MEPA approval, he wrote and

applied for for their opinion. And they agreed, and

they wrote a letter and said it didn't require a MEPA

review.

Q. I appreciate that. If you could just answer

the question? You go beyond the question.

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A. You asked me what expertise he has. He has

been in law for 30 something years. He is your alma

mater. He read the regs; knows the regs; applied to

the Secretary of State through MEPA -- MEPA agreed.

Q. A suggestion, though, would have been simply

if I ask you what expert, you could have said, "My

father, John Lund." Because when you add everything

else on, it requires me to ask you the question again

so I get a direct answer.

So from 1999 to the present, the only

so-called expert that you had review the project in

construction relative to MEPA approval was your

father, John Lund; correct?

A. No.

Q. Who else evaluated the project for MEPA

approval from 1999, on?

A. Bruce Tobiasson.

Q. How do you spell that?

A. T-O-B-I-S-O-N [sic].

Q. And when did he do his evaluation?

A. He has been a part of the marina since

almost day one, and he was part of the permitting

process in 2000.

Q. What is his company's name?

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A. Waterfront Design.

Q. And where are they located?

A. Up in the Boston area.

Q. Did you -- prior to performing any of this

excavation work and construction of the walls, did you

have any surveyor come out to the property?

A. Yes.

Q. And who came out to do the surveying work?

A. Mount Hope Engineering.

Q. What year did Mount Hope Engineering come

out to do the survey work?

A. It would be safe to say they have been out

there every year for the last 15 years.

Q. Is it fair to say that before you did any of

the excavation and construction work, you had Mount

Hope Engineering come out and do survey work?

A. Multiple times.

Q. Each time you did the excavation and

construction, sir? That was the question.

A. Every time we put a shovel in the dirt, did

they come out and re-stake it? There were boundary

markers and stakes there.

Q. Those boundary markers that are on the site

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A. Are you talking until present -- right up

until present?

Q. I was going from 1999 to present?

A. Okay. One time -- the only time they didn't

come was -- what the heck was the name of the company?

One other company did it about a year ago.

Q. Who is that?

A. I don't know the name of the company. I

know the name of the surveyor that came.

Q. Who is that?

A. Ray Howard.

Q. Now there are bounds on the property, and I

think there are stakes there and flags. Do you agree

with the locations of those boundary marks and stakes?

A. Yes.

Q. Did your surveyors place those on the land?

A. Yeah.

Q. Now during any of the construction work that

was performed the excavation and construction of the

wall that occurred from 1999, to the present, did BLM

do any excavation, or entering onto The Landing

property?

A. Yes.

Q. And what portion of the property did you

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enter onto?

A. I believe down here at the southerly end at

the corner of where the wall turns.

Q. You didn't do any entry in front of any of

the buildings, as well, by excavation onto The Landing

property?

A. I may have.

Q. You did, or you didn't, sir?

A. Well I don't know the answer. I would have

to walk out.

Q. Maybe I can help you. I have been out to

the site. And there is clearly a delineation of where

the excavation work based on the fact that it is not

the grass lawn. Do you know what I'm referring to?

A. Yeah, I know what you are referring to.

There are different portions, yeah.

Q. But doesn't that enter onto The Landing's

property?

A. I think in some places, yes.

Q. So under what right, or authority did you

enter onto The Landing property to perform this

excavation work?

A. I had an understanding with members of the

Board of where we were going to put these walls. And

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so in order to do it to make it structurally sound, in

some cases the dirt got excavated a little bit further

back.

Q. You are saying members of the Board gave you

permission to enter onto The Landing property to

perform the excavation?

A. I'm saying --

Q. Yes or no?

A. Yeah, by implication.

Q. By implication. Let's talk express

language. Did anyone expressly -- any member of the

Board ever expressly indicate to you that you --

meaning BLM -- could enter onto the The Landing

property and perform excavation? Yes or no?

A. I have a question.

Q. You have to answer the question, and then

you can consult with your attorney.

A. Then I will say yes, to the best of my

knowledge.

Q. Who gave you permission?

A. Paul Beattie and Burt Bouffard.

Q. When did Mr. Beattie give you permission to

enter onto The Landing property to do excavations?

A. I would say back in '07.

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Q. And what did he say?

A. Maybe, '08.

Q. What did Mr. Beattie say that indicated

permission to trespass onto The Landing property?

A. It goes back to the conversation down here

about thanking me for not using all the land in which

I was entitled to.

Q. Sir, that was not in 2007-2008. That was,

based on your testimony, I think 2009; was it not?

A. No. This portion of the wall as written

here in this 2008. So the conversation took place

before that.

Q. Okay. And what did Mr. Beattie say to you

that gave you permission to do excavation up along

where the buildings are -- Landing buildings are?

A. You asked me anywhere on The Landing

property, and I said "Yes." So there is a different

question.

Q. So you are saying you had -- you had a

conversation with Mr. Beattie that by implication gave

you permission to trespass onto The Landing property

on the southerly end; correct?

MR. BRENNAN: I object to the form of

the question, but you can answer.

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THE WITNESS: Because it wasn't

trespassing. But The Landing owns this land. We have

an easement for it. We had conversations about coming

on there and how we would construct it to have a

minimal impact on Building 3.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. When you say "that land," you are talking

about the 50-foot easement?

A. I am talking the 50-foot and the 40-foot

easement.

Q. Which is the far southerly portion of The

Landing property; correct?

A. Correct.

Q. Other than the far southerly portion of The

Landing property you just described, did you get

permission from The Landing to enter onto The Landing

property and perform excavation? Yes or no?

A. I think I did, but you know --

Q. Well, if you think you did, who gave you

permission?

A. Again, it would be Paul Beattie and Burt

Bouffard, and I don't remember when.

Q. And what did Mr. Beattie tell you that gave

you permission?

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A. "What are you building? How are you

building it? What are you doing? How far do you got

to cut back." "Okay." "This is what we want when

you're done." That was the type of conversation.

Q. And what about Mr. Bouffard? What did he

say?

A. Essentially, the same thing. "How is it

being done? Why is it necessary?" "Some cases the

dirt erodes; goes back further. You've got to

backfill it." "What are you going to do?" "Okay."

Q. Taking a look at Exhibit No. 5, which is the

Elevation Plan which depicts where The Landing

buildings are. What areas of the marina are used for

off-season storage?

A. All of it.

Q. And is it fair to say that after the

excavation work was done and the wall was constructed,

and that certain portion then you began using that

area for storage of boats?

A. I was able to use more area, yes.

Q. Do you follow my question, though? For

example, on the southerly end you did excavation on

the southerly end; right?

A. Yeah.

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Q. And after you did the excavation of the

southerly end, it gave you a greater area to do boat

storage?

A. Correct.

Q. Before that, you couldn't utilize the whole

area for boat storage. It was limited; correct?

A. Correct.

Q. Is that pretty much what happened throughout

the line that you did excavation -- constructed a

wall, and then as a result expanded your boat storage?

A. And parking.

Q. Did anyone at The Landing give you

permission to store boats in the area that was

excavated on the other side of the wall? Let me

rephrase.

Did anyone in The Landing give you

permission to excavate -- strike that -- to store

boats in the excavated area from the wall going

towards the water?

A. No, but I didn't think I needed it.

Q. Okay. How many boats are stored by The

Landing -- strike that -- by the marina?

A. In the summer, or the winter?

Q. Winter?

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A. Probably 200 -- it varies, depending on

size. But I would say 225 or so.

Q. And prior to, let's say, 1999, how many

boats were winter storage?

A. Probably -- where were we in '99? Probably,

here. I would say, probably, half that.

Q. How much revenue does BLM receive for boat

storage on its property each year?

MR. BRENNAN: I'm going to object to

confidential business information. I have no

objection to the number of boats, but their income for

that is business information that need not be

disclosed.

MR. SEIGENBERG: I would respectfully

disagree. As you know, the obligation of people's

depositions is to answer questions. But certainly as

an attorney, you have the right to object. But it is

hardly an area of attorney-client communication.

MR. BRENNAN: There are some privileged

areas and confidential areas. And I respectfully

state that what the Borden Light Marina should

generate for income from boat storage -- suffice it to

say they store boats and they charge for it. But the

actual information about the income from that, I

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believe, is confidential business information.

MR. SEIGENBERG: Stating that objection

you are instructing your client not to answer the

question?

MR. BRENNAN: Correct.

MR. SEIGENBERG: Note my objection.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Did any of the boats -- you said there are,

approximately, 225 boats being stored by BLM

currently. And do any of those boats exceed in height

19 mean sea level?

A. Yes.

Q. And of those 225, how many exceed 19 MSL?

A. Probably -- when you say "exceed," what do

you mean, have an antenna sticking over, or what do

you mean?

Q. Let's just include masts for the time being

for the purpose of this question.

A. Probably, 70 percent.

Q. Are you aware there is a visual easement;

correct?

A. Correct.

Q. Why do you believe you have the right to

store boats that exceed 19 MSL?

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MR. BRENNAN: Object to the form of the

question. You can answer.

THE WITNESS: The visual easement

specifically says "structure." Structure is something

that is real property, permanently attached, or

inhabited -- not personal property.

Q. And where did you draw the conclusion that a

structure only covers real property, or habited

property?

A. Just by reading and common sense.

Q. Have you ever petitioned the Court for

instructions as to your rights relative to the visual

easement, specifically, the storage of boats?

MR. BRENNAN: Don't I counterclaim

that, Dan? I don't remember.

MR. SEIGENBERG: I don't know. I don't

think you did, but I don't know.

MR. BRENNAN: You asked for it in your

case in chief. So I don't think we did.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Other than the present litigation, have you

ever brought any action in Court where you have asked

the Court to determine your rights relative to visual

easement and, specifically, your rights to store boats

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that exceed 19 MSL?

A. No, I don't think so.

Q. Now I want to -- I hesitate to do this, but

I want to go back to the -- let me move on.

I'm sorry. The work that was done in that

50-foot easement area --

A. 20.

Q. I am going to Club Street. I'm sorry. The

Club Street area on the southerly portion of The

Landing's property, can you describe specifically what

that construction work consisted of?

A. Constructing retaining walls and fence

running between King Phillip Boat Club and Borden

Light Marina property.

Q. Are you aware that the fence actually

divides a portion of the land that is owned by The

Landing? Are you aware of that?

A. I don't follow you.

Q. Have you gone onto the property of -- what

is the marina's name?

A. Borden Light Marina.

Q. Have you walked onto the grass area of

Borden Light Marina -- have you gone into the grass

area towards the shore of the yacht club?

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A. You mean over here?

Q. Yes.

A. Yeah.

Q. And did you see the bound mark?

A. Yeah. No, I didn't see the bound mark, but

I've been over there.

Q. Are you aware that your fence is -- your

fence is northerly of the far boundary mark of The

Landing?

A. The Landing has land here?

Q. That is my understanding, yes. Are you

aware of that?

MR. BRENNAN: Not the King Phillip,

because I am getting confused, too. We are talking

about The Landing and the King Phillip.

MR. SEIGENBERG: Right.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. The fence you constructed was depicted on

Exhibit No. 5 -- this area here, sir?

A. Yeah.

Q. Could you put the word "fence" there?

A. Yeah. [Witness complying]

Q. And how much of the parking area did you

remove during that construction work?

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A. Not really much. I narrowed --

Q. Could you do it in square footage, if you

could?

A. I couldn't. I narrowed the entryway into

the guest parking. That area, though, has been cut

out. It was stone up there and gravel.

Q. Now getting back to the 19 MSL, the Captain

Davis Building, do you acknowledge that building as

24.7 feet?

A. Yeah.

Q. Do you believe that is in violation of a

visual easement?

A. No.

Q. Why not?

A. It is built on Massachusetts Commonwealth

tide land. I can't write an easement for property

that I don't own.

Q. Wasn't the Captain David's Building erected

by Borden Light Marina?

A. Correct.

Q. And wasn't this constructed on land of

Borden Light Marina?

A. No.

Q. It wasn't. Why not?

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A. It is built on Massachusetts Commonwealth

tide land. I don't own the water. I only own up to

mean high water. I don't own below it.

Q. You believe you have the right to construct

billings to any height, as long as it is not on Lot 3.

Is that your view?

A. That is my interpretation of it.

Q. Okay. And how about the top of the cupola?

That is 31.6 MSL?

A. Um-hum.

Q. And do you believe you have the right -- do

you believe that violates the visual easement?

A. For the same reasons I said about the

building, yes.

Q. So the cupola, once again, not erected on

Lot 3?

A. No.

Q. And the building with the cupola is located

-- that is not on Lot 3, as well?

A. No. It is on Massachusetts Commonwealth

tide lands.

Q. What about the guard shack roof? Is that on

Lot 3, or is that located somewhere else?

A. Guard shack?

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Q. I thought it was the guard shack roof.

MR. BRENNAN: It's 19.6 feet or

something.

MR. SEIGENBERG: 20.9.

THE WITNESS: Is this the shack -- that

might be the shack that is over here. It's the same

thing. It's built out on a pier below mean high

water.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Once again, it was erected by Borden Light

Marina?

A. Correct.

Q. Recently, near the swimming pool of The

Landing you erected a tarp?

A. A tarp?

Q. Right T-A-R-P. It's a structure with a

nylon top to it. Did your brother have a wedding

recently?

A. Oh, yeah, a tent.

Q. That's not permanent. It's coming down?

A. Yeah.

Q. Did you determine what the height of that

building was?

A. Of the tent?

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Q. Right.

A. No.

Q. And when is that building coming down, if it

is?

A. I think they are taking it down today.

Q. Did you discuss that at all with anyone from

The Landing before that tent was erected?

A. No.

Q. And do you believe a tent is a structure?

A. We have had tents down there --

Q. That's not my question. Do you believe that

the tent that you erected was a structure?

A. I don't know. I haven't looked up how it is

interpreted.

Q. Okay. I think you have answered this, but

I'm going to try it again. In a pleading that your

attorney filed you stated, "BLM maintains that it is

not in violation of the visual easement by the storage

of vessels over 19 feet above mean sea level, as such

vessels are not structures as contemplated by the

visual easement."

A. Correct.

Q. And that is based on fact that you believe

that structures have to be either habitable, or real

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property; is that correct?

MR. BRENNAN: Objection to the form of

the question. You can answer it.

THE WITNESS: Based on what I read as a

definition of a structure; based on what I know the

intent of the parties when it was written, boats were

not considered structures.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. First of all, the definition of

"structures," what is the definition of "structures"

that you are going under?

A. The definition of a structure is something

either permanently fixed to the ground, something that

is inhabited. What are some of the other stuff? A

real property, as opposed to personal property.

Q. Okay. Would you agree that a boat for

storage could obstruct -- potentially obstruct the

views from The Landing property?

A. There is a potential for it if I put them on

top of the embankment.

Q. Now the visual easement -- strike that. You

also indicated that the reason for your view of the

confines of that visual easement is also was the

intent of the parties as you know it. And what do you

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know about the intent of the parties? And I assume

you mean --

A. Well, I think it was that one there is

condominiums that don't want buildings built in front

of them. And two, there is a marina that needs to

perform the natural basic operations of a marina.

So it was written so buildings won't be

built in front of the condos. And boats were not

included for the purposes so the marina could maintain

its operations consistent with whatever a marina has

been.

Q. Now the visual easement that was granted to

-- that is grant -- the visual easement that was

granted to The Landing, what area do they have the

right to have that view easement over?

A. It's due west of this point.

Q. Due west of what point? If you use the

plan, just use some description.

A. There is a property bound, if you are

looking at Exhibit 5 on the corner of the wall that

runs from Almond Street and then parallel in front of

the building. I believe it was due west straight out

from here down.

Q. Straight out down to where?

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A. To the other end of the property to the

southerly end.

Q. Would you agree that all the boats that are

stored from that reference point that you gave us that

was near Almond Street, all the way down the line in a

southerly direction, all the views from those

condominiums would be due west under your definition?

A. The views from these condos?

Q. Right?

A. No, they're not all due west.

Q. Which condominium do you believe doesn't

have a view easement right?

A. That is not how I understood your question.

You said that their view is all to the west. Not all

these condominiums' views are to the west. That is

how I understood it.

Q. Which, if any, of the condominium buildings

in your mind do not have the rights and privileges of

that visual easement?

A. I think the association as a whole has the

right to that visual easement.

Q. And that would include any view from any of

these buildings that have been erected on The Landing

property?

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A. Yes.

Q. So you said in your Pretrial Memorandum that

BLM disputes any contention by the Plaintiff that the

visual easement is over all of the Lot 3 as shown in

the plan referenced therein. What do you mean by

that, sir?

A. Well this is all of Lot 3 over here?

MR. BRENNAN: Lot 3 is shown on one of

these plans.

THE WITNESS: Exhibit No. 3 the visual

easement does not apply to buildings built on the

other side of this point on Lot 3.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. So you are simply including what the

so-called high-rise was contemplated being built;

correct?

A. That and repair and maintenance shed of the

marina.

Q. Okay. Let's talk about -- you are aware of

the 20-foot easement area that was granted to The

Landing?

A. Yes.

Q. And what is your understanding of the rights

that are encompassed in that erosion control easement?

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A. It is a nonexclusive easement.

Q. To do what?

A. To maintain and have drainage and erosion

control.

Q. To maintain what, sir?

A. Drainage.

Q. So to maintain and have drainage. And what

else? What other rights do you believe are

encompassed within that 20-foot easement?

A. I think -- is it here?

Q. I'm sorry. Do we have it?

MR. BRENNAN: The nonexclusive easement

has not been marked.

MR. SEIGENBERG: I don't think so,

either. I am happy to utilize it. I am just trying

to get the client's understanding of it.

THE WITNESS: They are allowed to come

out onto the 20 feet for erosion control and drainage

purposes.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Given wall that has now been constructed

throughout the whole length of that -- strike that.

You would agree with me there is now a wall

constructed along the whole period of the 20-foot

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easement area?

A. Correct.

Q. And how -- in what manner could The Landing

utilize its rights in the 20-foot easement, given the

construction of the retaining wall?

A. Their only right is for erosion control and

drainage.

Q. Okay. How can they utilize that easement

now for drainage?

A. They have a drainage pipe within that

20-foot easement that is still there.

Q. Where is that located, sir?

A. It runs along the property line.

Q. Is it within the easement area, or on the

property line?

A. I believe it goes back and forth.

Q. And is the drainage pattern from that

drainage line, is that towards the water?

A. No. I believe it collects, and then goes

out somewhere around in the middle.

Q. And is any of that pipe located anywhere on

the 20-foot easement area?

A. I think so.

Q. What about erosion control? How can The

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Landing utilize the graded slope for erosion control

now that there is a vertical wall constructed?

A. Because my understanding is I'm

nonexclusive. So provided it doesn't specifically

interfere with those rights, I've increased the

capacity for erosion control. The construction of the

retaining wall has been a benefit to them.

Q. You think the construction of the retaining

wall is a benefit to The Landing's erosion control

rights?

A. Correct.

Q. Who told you that, sir, other than your

attorney?

A. That is just what -- nobody told me that.

That is just from what I read.

Q. Okay. Prior to constructing these walls --

these vertical walls -- did you consult with any

expert to determine the impact of the walls on the

erosion control for The Landing?

A. Yeah.

Q. When I say "you," I mean BLM.

A. Yeah.

Q. Who did you consult with?

A. Ed Kingman.

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Q. And who is he with?

A. I don't know the name of the engineering

firm he's with.

Q. When did you consult with Ed Kingman?

A. He was in the earlier portions of the marina

for those retaining walls.

Q. What year did you, or BLM consult with Ed

Kingman?

A. From '86, probably to mid 90's.

Q. And did Mr. Kingman render an opinion as to

the effectiveness of the erosion control by the

construction of these vertical walls? Yes or no?

A. Yes.

Q. And what was Mr. Kingman's opinion?

A. That the construction of the walls was

beneficial to erosion control.

Q. Did he render a written report?

A. Not that I'm aware of.

Q. Do you have anything in writing that

indicates that the construction of the retaining walls

was beneficial to The Landing for erosion control?

A. No.

Q. Since Mr. Kingman -- since your conversation

with Mr. Kingman somewhere between 1986 and 1985

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[sic], have you consulted with any other expert to

determine the impact on The Landing's erosion control

by the construction of the vertical wall?

A. Mount Hope Engineering.

Q. And who at Mount Hope Engineering did you

consult with relative to the impact of the erosion

control by the construction of the vertical walls?

A. Jim Hall.

Q. And what was Mr. Hall's opinion?

A. That stabilizing the bank with a retaining

wall contributes to erosion control.

Q. And did Mr. Hall give you an opinion as to

the comparative benefits of a vertical wall versus a

graded slope natural barrier relative to erosion

control?

A. No, he did not because those were not the

conditions.

Q. The answer is no, he did not?

A. No.

Q. Did Mr. Hall compare the existing conditions

to the vertical wall as it relates to erosion control

protection?

A. He rendered his opinion.

Q. What was his opinion?

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A. That it was much better off.

Q. Much better off. And when did he render

this opinion to you, sir?

A. I would say at different times throughout

the last 15 years.

Q. But never in writing; correct?

A. I never asked for it in writing, correct.

Q. Is Mr. Hall going to testify at the trial in

two weeks, sir?

A. That is up to my attorney.

Q. I'm asking you, sir. As far as you know, is

Mr. Hall going to testify?

MR. BRENNAN: I'll stipulate he is on

the witness list.

MR. SEIGENBERG: Thank you.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Has Mr. Hall prepared any written report

relative to erosion control?

A. Not to my knowledge.

MR. SEIGENBERG: No?

MR. BRENNAN: I'm sorry?

MR. SEIGENBERG: Anything in writing?

MR. BRENNAN: [Counsel shook head]

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

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Q. Now was there any damage to The Landing's

drainage, or draining system based on the excavation

or construction of the retaining walls at any time?

MR. BRENNAN: Caused by?

MR. SEIGENBERG: Right. I'm sorry.

Caused by the excavation and construction of the wall.

THE WITNESS: There was downspouts that

went into lines that got dug up that were dead-ended

into the embankment that were supposed to be tied into

the drainage system, and they weren't.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. There was drainage that was destroyed during

the excavation work; is that fair to say?

A. It was excavated and it was --

MR. SEIGENBERG: Yes or no, sir.

MR. BRENNAN: Wait a minute. Let him

answer the question. First off, read that question

back.

[Court Reporter read previous question]

THE WITNESS: There was excavation --

the excavation work that took place uncovered pipes

that weren't supposed to be where they were. They

were broken during the excavation, and they were

replaced and rerouted so as not to drain behind the

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wall, but in front of the wall.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. So during the excavation work, drainage

pipes were broken; correct? Yes or no?

A. Two pipes, to my knowledge.

Q. To your knowledge, did you actually observe

this, sir?

A. Yes.

Q. And you indicated that the pipes were

replaced?

A. They were rerouted to go to the face of the

wall.

Q. Pipes were rerouted by who, sir?

A. BLM.

Q. Under what authority -- these drainage

pipes, were they within the 20-foot easement area?

A. Yes.

Q. Under what right did BLM have to reroute the

pipes?

A. Borden Light had a right because The Landing

at South Park was under an Order of Conditions that

all drainage pipes and all downspouts be directly into

the drainage system, not dead-ended into the

embankment, which causes erosion.

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Q. Let me try it again. Did you get any

permission from anyone at --

A. They were on my --

Q. Did you get permission from anybody at The

Landing to reroute the pipes -- the drainage pipes?

A. I rerouted pipes that were within the

easement area that presented a potential danger that

were not installed correctly by The Landing.

Q. Let me try it again. Did you receive

permission from anyone from The Landing to reroute

their drainage pipes? Yes or no?

A. No.

Q. Did you think you -- strike that. Now in

your Pretrial Memorandum you claim that The Landing

has trespassed as a result of encroachment into BLM's

land. Is that correct?

A. Correct.

Q. Specifically, you referenced Building 3.

What is the encroachment of Building 3? Describe it

for me.

A. I think Building 3 is -- I think the patio

and then the encroachment into my easement area.

Q. Now there is a concrete patio that you

believe encroaches?

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A. I think so. I would have to double-check.

Q. Would you agree if there is an encroachment,

you are talking a couple feet maximum?

A. Minimum.

Q. And are you referring -- you are indicating

there is a -- Building 3 encroaches into the 50-foot

easement area?

A. The 40-foot easement area that runs up.

Q. Which portion of Building 3 encroaches the

40-foot?

A. The whole outside structure here comes up

and is in -- the stairway and everything else comes

into that 40-foot easement.

Q. How much of the building encroaches onto the

40-foot easement?

A. I would be able to tell you exactly, but

your clients took out the marks that Mr. Hall put in.

Q. I appreciate that. As you sit here today,

sir, do you know how much --

A. The square footage, no, but it is the

concrete patios for parking, and it is the access

stairway into Building 3, and retaining wall that

holds up the steps.

Q. Now the concrete patio that you said

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encroached in the back towards the water area, would

you agree that that patio -- that concrete slab has

been there more than 20 years?

A. Yes.

Q. And the other area in the front, which you

said encroaches on the 40-foot easement, would you

agree that has been there more than 20 years?

A. Yeah.

Q. And at any point in time has Borden Light

Marina ever given permission to The Landing to

encroach, or trespass onto the BLM's property or

easement?

A. No.

Q. Building 5 you allege trespasses. What

portion of Building 5 trespasses?

A. I think the same thing -- this patio sticks

out.

Q. We are talking a couple feet again?

A. Yeah.

Q. Do you agree that patio has been there more

than 20 years?

A. Yeah.

Q. And at any point in time did Borden Light

Marina ever give permission to The Landing to

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trespass?

A. No.

Q. You also reference Buildings 10 and 11

trespassing. Are you referring to the decks on the

second and third floor?

A. And I believe the HVAC unit.

Q. Have the decks been there more than 20

years, sir?

A. I don't think so.

Q. When do you think those decks were

constructed?

A. I want to say '92-93.

Q. And what about the --

A. Maybe, '91.

Q. What about the HVAC?

A. Same period of time.

Q. You believe that's when Building 10 and 11

were constructed?

A. Um-hum.

Q. And has the marina ever given permission to

The Landing to have that trespass of Buildings 10 and

11?

A. No.

Q. And you also referenced The Landing's fence

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as encroaching onto the marina's property; correct?

A. Correct.

Q. Which fence are you referring to?

A. The right split-rail fence.

Q. Who constructed the right split-rail fence?

A. The Landing at South Park.

Q. When was that located there?

A. Over -- I imagine over a period of years

during construction.

Q. And how much of that fence trespasses?

A. Most of it.

Q. Any other trespasses that you are aware of

by The Landing?

A. No, I don't think so, unless my attorney is

aware of any.

Q. During the construction that you performed

there was metal fences -- metal construction fences

erected; correct?

A. Yes.

Q. That was done by Borden Light Marina?

A. Correct.

Q. And did you obtain a Building Permit to

erect those metal fences?

A. No. It was temporary fencing.

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Q. Okay. And do you believe that they are

temporary fences. They are not structures within the

City of Fall River's Zoning Ordinance requiring a

Building Permit?

A. Correct.

Q. Now let's talk about the wall -- the

most-recently constructed wall in the southerly end of

the property. Have you had anyone evaluate -- prior

to the construction of that wall, have you had anyone

evaluate the potential structural integrity of that

wall?

A. Yes.

Q. Who?

A. Furtado Excavating.

Q. And who made the evaluation of that wall?

A. Prior to being constructed.

Q. Who at Furtado Excavating?

A. James Furtado.

Q. And is Mr. Furtado an engineer?

A. No.

Q. Did you consult with an engineer relative to

the construction of any of the walls that have been

erected by the marina?

A. Yes.

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Q. Which ones?

A. Which engineer?

Q. Okay. You answered the question, but prior

to the construction of any of these walls, did you

consult with any engineers relative to the structural

integrity of the walls to be constructed?

A. Yes.

Q. Who did you consult with?

A. Bruce Tobiasson, Ed Kingman.

Q. And these people are engineers?

A. Correct.

Q. Can you tell me why you didn't consult with

an engineer prior to the erection of the wall toward

the southerly end of The Landing's property?

A. Because Furtado Excavating has been building

this type of wall for the better part of 30 years.

Q. Okay. But Furtado did other walls for the

marina, as well?

A. He did other walls for the marina, as well,

but he has built them outside of us. The Board was

pleased with the earlier portion that he made. And we

felt that based on their pleasure with what he had

done before, we didn't see how that would change going

forward.

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Q. Okay. But you had other walls constructed

by Furtado that you had an engineer evaluate the

structural integrity before the construction; correct?

A. Constructed by Furtado?

Q. Right.

A. There was a different type of block company

that an engineer evaluated for us and said it would

work and whatnot. But we didn't buy his particular

blocks. They were more aesthetically pleasing, but

structurally the same.

Q. My question -- maybe I didn't phrase it

well. My question is you had other areas of wall

constructed by Furtado; correct?

A. Yes.

Q. Did you have an engineer -- did you consult

with an engineer before those walls were constructed

by Furtado?

A. Correct.

Q. So my question is why did you not consult

with an engineer before Furtado did the walls along

the southerly end of the property?

A. Because the soil -- the parameters are the

same as they are here. In fact, this is a lower and a

smaller wall.

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Q. And do you believe that the wall that was

constructed along the southerly end of the property is

structurally sound?

A. Yes.

Q. And what do you base that on?

A. I base that on people that have had the

benefit of doing this type of thing for 30 years, and

how he said it was constructed and their knowledge.

Q. Which people did you consult with?

A. Well, again, Jim Furtado.

Q. Anyone else?

A. Tony Sousa from S & S Concrete.

Q. Tony Sousa of who?

A. S & S Concrete.

Q. Anyone else?

A. And Jim Hall from Mount Hope Engineering.

Q. And isn't Jim Hall's opinion based on the

amount of Mirafi fabric that exists?

A. No, Rob Gay. But you wanted to know before

the stuff got built.

Q. After the fact, you have had Rob Gay

evaluate, as well, correct?

A. Correct.

Q. Did he make any determination as to the

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amount of Mirafi fabric that was installed behind the

wall going towards The Landing's property?

A. Yes.

Q. When did you do that, first of all?

A. Make a determination of what is there?

Q. Right.

A. Initially, consulting with Rob Gay, the

engineer.

Q. Okay. You initially consulted with Rob Gay.

And how did that lead you to believe as to how much

Mirafi fabric?

A. I misunderstood your question. How did we

get our determination how far back to put the Mirafi

fabric?

Q. No. I am asking you about the existing

amount of Mirafi fabric?

A. Yeah.

Q. Did you have someone make a determination as

to the amount of fabric that is currently installed

there?

A. Yeah. We looked up the manufacturer of the

type and went over what they recommended.

Q. I appreciate that, but isn't it based on how

much fabric was already in the soil before you did the

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construction, as well?

A. There was no Mirafi fabric in the soil. No.

You take it all out, and then you put it in. It is

just gravel.

Q. And who installed the fabric?

A. Furtado Excavating.

Q. You recently wrote a letter to all the unit

owners; correct?

A. No, not correct.

Q. Okay. Did you recently put together a

letter to unit owners at The Landing?

A. Some, yes.

Q. Some. How many unit owners did you send a

letter to recently?

A. Probably, 20.

Q. And how did you select the 20?

A. People that I have a personal relationship

with.

Q. What was the purpose of you writing such a

letter?

A. To let them aware of what is going on as

fellow unit owners.

Q. I show you a document, sir. Is this a

letter that you sent to certain unit owners?

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A. Yeah.

Q. When did you send this letter to the

approximate 20 unit owners?

A. Around a week or so.

MR. SEIGENBERG: Could we mark this as

the next Exhibit?

(Deposition Exhibit No. 12, theabove-referred to Letter datedOctober 21, 2010 to unit ownersfrom Mike Lund, was marked foridentification.)

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. On Exhibit 12, which is the letter that you

wrote to 20 unit owners, you talked about a special

assessment being instituted; correct?

A. I talked about the last time this happened

there was a special assessment.

MR. SCHNITZLEIN: Let me interject. As

far as any special assessment, no special assessment

since I have been living at The Landing since 1999,

was to repair buildings which are 1.525 assessment,

specifically to repair buildings.

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. In your letter on the first page, first

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paragraph you state, "The Board has put itself in the

very uncomfortable position of having to 'win big' now

in order to get your approval for a special legal fee

assessment later."

What were you referring to there, sir?

A. That is my opinion.

Q. Just your opinion. You had no other

knowledge, other than your own opinion, sir?

A. The last time there was a special assessment

was because all the money that was designed for other

things got diverted and to feed the last legal fight

10 years ago.

Q. I am going to try to pin you down -- strike

that. You talked about -- you have raised this issue

that the excavation work and construction of the walls

that was performed by the marina was done with the

permission of certain Board members at The Landing.

Is that your position?

A. And knowledge, yeah.

Q. I appreciate the knowledge part because,

certainly, knowledge they are seeing the work done and

they live there; correct?

A. Correct.

Q. I am more interested in the conversations

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you had with Board members. We went through a few of

them. You mentioned a conversation with Paul Beattie?

A. Correct.

Q. Mr. Bouffard?

A. Mr. Bouffard.

Q. And I thought you mentioned one other

person.

A. Marcel Daquay.

Q. Any other individuals you had conversations

with who were then members of the Board of Directors

of The Landing which, in your mind, constituted

permission or authority to do the work; that is, the

excavation and the construction of the wall?

A. Yeah. I think there were more

conversations, but can I remember specifically who,

what, when? No, I can't. So therefore, I can't. I

think I spoke to Charles numerous times, but I can't

tell you when. I can't tell you what we talked about.

Q. So the only three people that -- statements

of the three people you are going to potentially rely

on for constituting permission to do this work were

those three individuals we just referred to; correct?

A. Correct.

Q. And conversations with Mr. Beattie occurred

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2007-2008; is that correct?

A. And I think even before then back in 2005.

Q. And what did Mr. Beattie say in 2005?

A. It was just relative to putting in a wall

and getting the bank squared away. It wasn't anything

specific. That is my recollection.

Q. So you simply recall having a conversation

with Mr. Beattie where there was talk about the

excavation and putting a wall in, but nothing more you

can recall right now; is that correct?

A. No. I don't remember conversations with him

seven-eight years ago, no.

Q. Including any conversation you had in 2005;

correct?

A. Yeah. I don't remember, specifically, what,

but there was a general understanding.

Q. And the conversation with Mr. Bouffard, when

did those conversations occur that you believe

constituted permission or authority to have The

Landing perform this work?

A. He came down to the marina office on

multiple occasions and talked to me about what we were

doing.

Q. Did he -- do you have any recollection of

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him using the specific words, "You have my permission

to go ahead and do this work," or words to that

effect?

A. I remember him being -- saying he was

pleased that we were going to clean it up.

Q. Was that before, or during, or after the

work was being done?

A. All three.

Q. And, specifically, what work was he pleased

about? Strike that. You said he was pleased that you

were going to clean it up. What was he referring to?

A. Getting rid of some of the old derelict

boats down the other end.

Q. And did you have conversation with Marcel

only in 2007-2008, relative to what you believe to

constitute permission to perform work?

A. Yeah, I think so.

Q. And what was said? What did Marcel say?

A. I don't remember, exactly. We talked about

building the wall and cleaning up the embankment.

Q. And that is all you can recall right now?

A. I don't remember the actual exact content,

no.

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questions.

MR. BRENNAN: Just a couple.

CROSS EXAMINATION

BY MR. BRENNAN:

Q. Mr. Lund, you were questioned on examination

as to communications with The Landing at South Park

and the Board of Managers about the work that you did

on the walls. Do you recall being questioned along

that line?

A. Correct.

Q. You testified that at some point in time

that you were requested to do certain work by

increasing the height; is that correct?

A. Correct.

Q. At some point in time did The Landing at

South Park communicate to you their pleasure with what

you did -- that they were pleased with what you did?

A. Yes.

Q. Did you receive a letter dated October 2nd,

2008, from the Board of Managers at South Park?

A. Yes.

Q. Could you take a look at that? And is this

a copy of the letter that you received?

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A. Yes.

Q. Dated October 2nd?

A. Yes.

Q. 2008?

A. Correct.

Q. Would you read into the record what the

letter says?

A. "We would like to thank you for increasing

the height between the Marina and The Landing. We

have received compliments on how great the work is and

how it has improved the landscape notably."

MR. BRENNAN: Can we have that marked

No. 13, please?

(Deposition Exhibit No. 13, theabove-referred to Letter datedOctober 2, 2008, from The Landingat South Park to Borden LightMarina, was marked foridentification.)

BY MR. BRENNAN:

Q. Now Mr. Lund, you were questioned about some

work that you did at what we call "the south end of

the parcel," is that correct?

A. Correct.

Q. And could you just briefly describe for me

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again what type of work and what work you did down in

the south end?

A. Down the south end we widened the access

easement -- widened the area within the access

easements to gain entry into the marina; cleaned up --

there was gravel and stone stored down there; put a

wall up between King Phillip and Borden Light that had

been blocked by some run-down shrubbery, and then

erected the exact same style fence that runs behind

The Landing so it would match, and did so in a manner

to still leave a lane so that they could access the

guest parking area and keep parking spaces for

Building 3 two units.

Q. Now after doing the work on the south end,

did you become aware of some Minutes of the Landing at

South Park in which they discussed your work on the

south end of the marina?

A. Yes.

Q. And I would like to show you a document, if

I may, and direct your attention to that paragraph

entitled "Marina Road."

A. Um-hum.

Q. Now could you tell me the date of those

Minutes -- what the date is?

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A. March of 2009.

Q. Could you read into the record what it says

after the words "Marina Road"?

A. "The Marina is constructing an egress road

before you enter The Landing property. The road is on

marina property and is essential for fire and safety

reasons. The marina did not take all the land it is

entitled to and we would like to thank the marina for

its planning."

MR. BRENNAN: May that be marked

Exhibit 14, please?

(Deposition Exhibit No. 14, theabove-referred to March 2009Minutes, was marked foridentification.)

BY MR. BRENNAN:

Q. Now Mr. Lund, the wall construction spanned

a period of how many years?

A. Since, I don't know, 22 -- 23 years.

Q. And when would you say you first got

involved with the construction of the wall?

A. '94-95.

Q. And during the course of the construction of

the wall on a day-to-day basis, would you have an

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opportunity to be present and observe what was being

done?

A. Yes.

Q. And when you were out there watching the

operation, at any time did you see members of The

Landing At South Park observing the work?

A. Yes.

Q. And how frequently would you observe members

of The Landing observing the work being done for the

walls?

A. Daily.

Q. And you're familiar with Mr. Paul Beattie?

A. Yes.

Q. And how frequently is he out there observing

the marina operations?

A. Daily.

Q. Continuing to this date?

A. If not once a day, once every other day.

Q. And how long does he stand out there and

observe you?

A. Most recently, an hour or so.

Q. Did you ever have conversations with him?

A. Initially, yes, but not really in the last

year.

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Q. Now directing your attention to the year

2006, did you have an opportunity to negotiate a

document with The Landing at South Park, which is

entitled a "Settlement" document?

A. Yes.

Q. And I ask you if you take a look at this

document that I am handing you and tell me if you are

familiar with the document, and if that is the

document you are referring to?

A. Yes.

Q. And is there a date on that document?

A. December 12th, 2005.

Q. And is there a date on the signature page --

the last page?

A. March 22nd, 2006.

Q. And at the time that agreement was

negotiated, was The Landing at South Park represented

by counsel?

A. Yes.

Q. And were you represented by counsel?

A. Yes.

Q. And is it fair to say that that Settlement

Agreement never came to fruition?

A. Correct.

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Q. And do you recall why not?

A. The great recession. The real estate market

changed.

MR. BRENNAN: I would like to have that

marked No. 15, please.

(Deposition Exhibit No. 15, theabove-referred to SettlementAgreement dated March 22, 2006, wasmarked for identification.)

BY MR. BRENNAN:

Q. Now on your Direct Examination you testified

-- you were questioned about damage to some drainage

pipes?

A. Um-hum.

Q. What did you mean when you said they were

dead-headed. What does that mean?

A. That meant that the downspouts that come

from the gutters on the corners of Buildings 4 and 5

went into the ground -- went into a five-inch plastic

drainage -- perforated drainage pipe and just ended

right in the embankment.

Q. So was it fair to say they weren't connected

to anything?

A. They weren't connected.

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Q. So did they function?

A. They did take -- they did collect the water

from the roofs and then bring it over and deposit it

into the slope.

Q. Now how did you alter those pipes?

A. When we excavated, we uncovered them as

being where they weren't supposed to be. As the wall

construction was finished, we diverted them so that

they would not deposit behind the wall, but in front

of the wall.

Q. So do they now function, in a sense,

free-fall onto the marina property?

A. Correct.

Q. Did you do that at your own cost?

A. Yes.

Q. Is it fair to say, Mr. Lund, you never asked

permission of The Landing at South Park to undertake

the excavation that you did; is that correct?

A. Correct.

Q. Did you believe you were doing it with their

permission implied by their actions?

A. Correct.

MR. BRENNAN: That's all I have. I'm

all set.

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REDIRECT EXAMINATION

BY MR. SEIGENBERG:

Q. Briefly. Relative to Exhibit 15, the

Settlement Agreement, this agreement was signed by

Borden Light Marina; correct?

A. Correct.

Q. And you said it didn't get effectuated -- or

accomplished, rather -- based on the recession;

correct?

A. Correct.

Q. Which you meant Borden Light Marina didn't

have the money to accomplish what is in this

agreement?

A. No. I meant by that the project that was

proposed for the high-rise no longer was viable to

construct based on the lack of condo sales and what

have you.

Q. This Settlement Agreement also refers to,

potentially, building a wall near Building 3; correct?

A. Correct.

Q. How was that related to building a high-rise

on the northerly end of the property?

A. In working with the association it was felt

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that in the event that the high-rise got built and

sold, that the marina, in return for their cooperation

of helping that project advance, we would guarantee

them that we would construct the remainder of the

retaining walls all the way along the property line

and repair the fence above those walls that we built.

Q. Now this agreement was never accomplished

because, amongst other things, I take it the marina

never deposited the sum of $200,000 as provided for in

this agreement?

A. The trigger event never took place.

Q. I see. You never could convey some of your

property to a third-party to do construction; is that

correct?

A. I think it was on issuance of a Building

Permit or something.

Q. And you don't believe this agreement is in

force or effect, do you?

A. I believe that the intent over the last

three years was to do everything possible in that

agreement so that in the event that the trigger event

did take place, we would have it substantially

completed and use the remainder of the resources to

wrap it up.

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Q. Do you believe this agreement is still in

force? Yes or no?

A. No.

Q. I take it the intention -- at least your

intention was that these trigger events would take --

it was your understanding that this trigger event

would occur over a certain point of time; correct?

A. Well the hope was that you get your zoning

approval and design and then marketing suiting your

potential buyer. And between the time that was

executed and the time it took to do the other things,

the real estate market collapsed.

Q. The trigger event would have to occur within

four years from the date of the agreement. So that,

clearly, hasn't occurred, right?

A. No, as of a while ago.

MR. SEIGENBERG: Thank you. Nothing

further.

MR. BRENNAN: All set.

(The deposition was concluded at 3:31 p.m.).

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COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTSCOUNTY OF BRISTOL

I, LINDA M. THOMAS, Certified Shorthand Reporter

and Notary Public duly and qualified in and for the

COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS do hereby certify there

came before me the deponent herein, namely MICHAEL

LUND, who was by me duly sworn to testify to the truth

and nothing but the truth concerning the matters in

this cause.

I further certify that the foregoing transcript

is a true and correct transcript of my original

stenographic notes.

I further certify that I am neither attorney or

counsel for, nor related to or employed by any of the

parties to the action in which this deposition is

taken; and furthermore, that I am not a relative or

employee of any attorney or counsel employed by the

parties hereto or financially interested in the

action.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand

and affixed my Notarial Seal this 29th day of October

2010.

LINDA M. THOMAS, RPR, RMRCSR No. 129293NOTARY PUBLICMy Commission expires July 21, 2017.

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PLEASE NOTE:

THE FOREGOING CERTIFICATION OF THISTRANSCRIPT DOES NOT APPLY TO ANY REPRODUCTION OF THESAME BY ANY MEANS UNLESS UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THECERTIFYING REPORTER.

C-E-R-T-I-F-I-C-A-T-E

I, MICHAEL LUND, do certify that Ihave read the foregoing deposition and that, to thebest of my knowledge, said deposition is true andaccurate.

MICHAEL LUND

DATE

Subscribed and sworn before me this day of

, 2010.

DATENOTARY PUBLIC

WITNESS SIGNATURE

My Commission expires:

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ERRATA SHEET

In accordance with the rules of procedure

governing depositions, you are entitled to read and

correct your deposition.

Accordingly, please carefully read your

deposition and, on this errata sheet, make any changes

or corrections in form or substance to your deposition

that you feel should be made. PLEASE DO NOT MARK THE

TRANSCRIPT.

After completing this procedure, sign at the

conclusion of such changes/corrections (if any) and

return it in accordance with your instructions.

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$200,000 [1] - 203:9

'

'02 [1] - 72:6

'04 [1] - 72:6

'06 [2] - 72:6, 88:19

'07 [1] - 152:24

'08 [6] - 90:6, 92:5,

119:3, 119:5, 119:9,

153:2

'09 [2] - 91:6, 101:5

'86 [6] - 36:5, 53:15,

54:13, 54:24, 64:10,

173:9

'87 [8] - 30:6, 36:5,

42:11, 139:10,

144:12, 144:13,

145:8

'88 [6] - 30:6, 42:11,

54:9, 95:21, 137:4,

144:13

'88-'89 [1] - 147:3

'89 [8] - 30:24, 53:15,

54:9, 54:13, 54:24,

64:10, 137:4, 144:13

'91 [4] - 7:11, 64:7,

64:20, 181:14

'92 [2] - 64:7, 64:21

'92-93 [1] - 181:12

'93 [1] - 8:20

'94 [1] - 7:11

'94-'95 [1] - 9:15

'94-95 [1] - 197:22

'96 [1] - 62:22

'99 [4] - 85:16, 85:19,

103:13, 157:5

'win [1] - 190:2

0

02067 [1] - 2:3

02081 [1] - 1:23

02780 [1] - 2:7

1

1 [25] - 1:1, 1:1, 3:12,

23:23, 24:11, 24:16,

24:17, 25:19, 25:24,

26:2, 26:7, 26:15,

27:2, 27:9, 34:7,

37:14, 38:3, 38:8,

38:10, 38:15, 38:16,

39:12, 140:22,

142:13

1.525 [1] - 189:21

10 [25] - 4:1, 4:4,

63:16, 66:5, 66:6,

66:22, 73:19, 100:1,

100:17, 103:10,

110:9, 131:10,

131:15, 131:20,

132:22, 133:14,

134:1, 135:2, 135:3,

138:7, 181:3,

181:17, 181:21,

190:12

10/31/73 [1] - 6:18

100 [5] - 75:18, 111:5,

111:8, 111:21,

115:10

100-foot [4] - 113:1,

115:1, 115:2, 115:5

100-percent [2] -

14:21, 17:3

108 [1] - 3:24

10:00 [1] - 1:17

10:44 [1] - 36:21

10:47 [1] - 36:21

10th [2] - 110:5,

114:22

11 [10] - 4:5, 66:6,

68:3, 136:16,

136:18, 136:22,

138:9, 181:3,

181:17, 181:22

110 [1] - 4:1

112 [1] - 4:3

12 [7] - 3:13, 4:6,

24:13, 63:16, 77:24,

189:8, 189:13

129293 [2] - 1:22,

205:23

12th [2] - 24:2, 199:12

13 [7] - 4:8, 19:7, 28:3,

46:6, 130:8, 195:13,

195:15

131 [1] - 4:4

136 [1] - 4:5

14 [5] - 3:17, 4:10,

37:6, 197:11, 197:13

14th [1] - 37:2

15 [8] - 4:11, 70:4,

92:15, 149:13,

175:5, 200:5, 200:7,

202:4

17 [2] - 3:13, 24:13

1724 [2] - 33:5, 39:20

17th [1] - 24:1

18 [3] - 15:4, 134:3,

134:9

18-feet [1] - 134:19

189 [1] - 4:6

19 [12] - 15:4, 21:14,

34:13, 35:19, 134:3,

134:9, 158:11,

158:13, 158:24,

160:1, 162:7, 165:19

19.6 [1] - 164:2

19.92 [1] - 47:22

194 [1] - 3:4

195 [1] - 4:8

197 [1] - 4:10

1980 [1] - 133:23

1980's [3] - 43:22,

132:5, 133:16

1981 [3] - 3:13, 24:1,

24:13

1982 [3] - 3:13, 24:2,

24:13

1985 [5] - 130:8,

133:23, 137:9,

139:14, 173:24

1986 [43] - 3:14, 3:17,

3:19, 19:1, 19:7,

20:8, 20:24, 23:20,

24:22, 25:5, 25:16,

27:16, 33:5, 33:13,

35:9, 37:2, 37:6,

39:12, 39:16, 39:23,

45:21, 46:3, 50:21,

50:22, 50:24, 51:2,

55:7, 56:20, 57:11,

57:24, 59:10, 60:19,

61:5, 61:12, 64:13,

64:15, 65:21, 92:2,

130:8, 130:21,

131:22, 139:13,

173:24

1986-1989 [1] - 52:14

1987 [6] - 13:15,

13:19, 13:24, 95:21,

144:12, 144:15

1988 [3] - 31:2, 32:2,

54:11

1989 [25] - 20:5, 20:8,

20:24, 23:20, 31:2,

32:2, 49:20, 50:3,

50:24, 51:3, 53:8,

53:18, 54:11, 55:7,

56:20, 57:24, 59:10,

60:19, 61:5, 61:12,

64:15, 65:21, 125:3,

125:11, 130:21

1990 [5] - 50:18, 66:8,

70:18, 129:1, 139:11

1990's [4] - 14:14,

15:6, 68:10, 70:15

1990's-2000 [1] -

70:19

1991 [1] - 64:9

1994 [4] - 7:19, 7:24,

9:20, 10:19

1995 [2] - 62:22, 63:14

1996 [5] - 7:20, 7:24,

63:14, 64:2, 64:9

1999 [39] - 64:2, 64:9,

64:14, 75:19, 76:13,

77:18, 77:21, 83:1,

83:10, 84:15, 84:22,

85:7, 85:20, 86:3,

86:9, 86:20, 87:9,

87:21, 96:24, 97:7,

97:14, 97:17, 98:5,

98:6, 98:17, 98:23,

102:19, 107:10,

144:17, 144:21,

145:2, 145:19,

146:3, 148:10,

148:16, 150:3,

150:20, 157:3,

189:20

1999's [1] - 85:12

1:00 [1] - 128:21

1:41 [1] - 80:1

1:53 [1] - 128:21

1:55 [1] - 80:1

2

2 [30] - 3:14, 4:8,

26:10, 33:3, 33:12,

34:4, 34:7, 37:11,

37:12, 37:14, 38:4,

38:8, 38:10, 38:15,

38:16, 39:11, 39:12,

40:9, 40:15, 41:2,

43:1, 76:1, 76:6,

76:9, 80:3, 80:14,

140:22, 142:13,

195:16

2,000 [1] - 141:14

20 [21] - 15:5, 92:15,

93:16, 93:19, 93:23,

94:20, 95:2, 113:16,

125:16, 136:10,

143:7, 160:7,

170:18, 180:3,

180:7, 180:21,

181:7, 188:15,

188:16, 189:3,

189:14

20's [1] - 134:1

20-and-a-half [2] -

66:18, 66:19

20-foot [12] - 120:14,

120:23, 121:5,

121:14, 121:19,

169:20, 170:9,

170:24, 171:4,

171:11, 171:22,

177:16

20.68 [1] - 47:22

20.9 [1] - 164:4

200 [2] - 4:11, 157:1

2000 [21] - 4:3, 16:9,

16:10, 69:19, 70:2,

71:17, 71:23, 71:24,

99:4, 99:6, 100:5,

103:13, 107:15,

112:15, 112:20,

120:19, 143:10,

143:14, 143:20,

144:6, 148:23

2000's [13] - 70:15,

70:18, 71:19, 71:20,

72:5, 83:23, 99:5,

99:18, 106:4,

115:14, 115:16,

122:11, 138:23

LINDA M. THOMAS COURT REPORTING

12000-2001 [1] - 146:18

2001 [1] - 147:5

2002 [13] - 3:24, 4:1,

72:8, 72:10, 78:13,

81:10, 108:3, 108:7,

109:24, 110:5,

110:9, 111:4, 114:22

2003 [1] - 112:3

2005 [4] - 192:2,

192:3, 192:13,

199:12

2006 [9] - 4:11, 72:8,

72:11, 78:14, 81:10,

89:4, 199:2, 199:15,

200:8

2007 [1] - 89:13

2007-2008 [3] - 153:8,

192:1, 193:15

2008 [13] - 4:8, 10:6,

10:7, 10:20, 62:3,

89:13, 91:24, 92:24,

124:20, 153:11,

194:21, 195:4,

195:16

2009 [15] - 4:10, 10:7,

10:20, 91:8, 91:12,

103:14, 103:16,

105:8, 105:10,

105:14, 106:10,

121:12, 153:9,

197:1, 197:13

2010 [14] - 1:17, 3:21,

4:6, 10:6, 16:6,

16:11, 16:12, 62:3,

73:22, 74:3, 74:10,

189:9, 205:21,

206:14

2017 [1] - 205:24

202 [1] - 3:4

207 [1] - 1:1

21 [3] - 4:6, 189:9,

205:24

21.26 [2] - 68:4, 69:1

21.29 [1] - 121:22

22 [3] - 4:11, 197:19,

200:8

225 [3] - 157:2, 158:9,

158:13

22nd [1] - 199:15

23 [6] - 3:21, 4:3,

74:10, 112:15,

112:20, 197:19

235 [1] - 1:23

23rd [3] - 74:3, 120:19,

121:11

24 [1] - 3:12

24.7 [1] - 162:9

25 [3] - 1:17, 58:14,

75:6

254067 [1] - 1:3

26-27 [1] - 21:4

29th [1] - 205:20

2nd [2] - 194:20, 195:2

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37:4, 37:10, 37:11,

37:13, 37:15, 37:18,

38:1, 38:6, 39:15,

41:17, 41:20, 41:23,

42:21, 43:1, 43:3,

48:21, 90:19, 91:2,

103:23, 104:18,

104:20, 127:24,

128:2, 136:24,

140:11, 154:5,

163:5, 163:16,

163:19, 163:23,

169:4, 169:7, 169:8,

169:10, 169:12,

178:18, 178:19,

178:21, 179:6,

179:9, 179:22,

196:13, 202:20

3.1 [1] - 20:3

30 [8] - 3:14, 3:18,

33:13, 39:23,

146:10, 148:2,

184:16, 186:7

300 [3] - 52:8, 52:11,

64:12

301 [1] - 33:6

306 [1] - 39:20

30th [3] - 33:5, 39:12,

39:16

31.6 [1] - 163:9

316 [1] - 6:10

33 [1] - 3:14

37 [1] - 3:16

39 [1] - 3:18

3:31 [1] - 204:21

4

4 [19] - 3:18, 39:20,

39:22, 40:4, 40:7,

40:14, 40:15, 41:3,

45:21, 46:16, 54:15,

54:20, 54:21, 55:3,

60:15, 91:2, 103:23,

104:18, 200:18

40-foot [6] - 154:9,

179:8, 179:10,

179:13, 179:15,

180:6

400 [1] - 52:6

400-foot [1] - 52:7

410 [1] - 31:12

410-slip [1] - 42:23

47 [1] - 3:20

48 [1] - 5:15

488 [1] - 2:6

5

5 [17] - 3:20, 46:23,

47:6, 47:11, 49:11,

54:21, 63:18, 71:14,

88:21, 101:14,

101:22, 155:11,

161:19, 167:20,

180:14, 180:15,

200:18

50-foot [4] - 154:8,

154:9, 160:6, 179:6

508 [1] - 1:24

6

6 [17] - 3:4, 3:21,

52:18, 59:24, 71:14,

72:12, 74:2, 74:7,

74:9, 74:15, 74:22,

75:12, 78:14, 79:17,

81:10, 81:20, 111:13

60 [1] - 52:5

668-5821 [1] - 1:24

7

7 [12] - 3:24, 60:3,

60:5, 89:17, 104:21,

108:3, 108:6,

108:11, 111:5,

111:9, 111:22, 113:2

70 [1] - 158:19

700 [1] - 6:8

72 [1] - 24:8

74 [1] - 3:21

8

8 [19] - 3:24, 4:1, 24:8,

69:15, 69:18, 70:11,

108:3, 108:7, 110:5,

110:8, 110:12,

111:12, 111:17,

111:18, 111:22,

113:3, 113:12,

113:21, 114:10

80 [1] - 31:14

80's [7] - 133:11,

134:7, 134:8,

135:17, 135:19,

139:14, 142:23

808 [1] - 6:10

8th [2] - 109:24, 111:4

9

9 [4] - 4:3, 112:14,

112:18, 120:7

9/18/09 [1] - 47:4

90 [1] - 31:14

90's [10] - 14:12, 64:7,

64:11, 64:20, 70:2,

99:1, 135:19,

138:19, 138:23,

173:9

90-foot [2] - 67:23,

68:2

A

a.m [2] - 1:17, 36:21

abandoned [2] -

19:12, 21:3

abide [1] - 117:6

ability [1] - 87:24

able [4] - 25:22, 86:13,

155:20, 179:16

above-referred [15] -

24:11, 33:12, 37:4,

39:22, 47:6, 74:9,

108:6, 110:8,

112:14, 131:15,

136:18, 189:8,

195:15, 197:13,

200:7

absolutely [1] - 107:5

Academy [3] - 6:21,

7:7, 8:13

accepted [6] - 110:24,

111:16, 111:18,

111:19, 113:14,

113:20

accepting [1] - 114:18

access [12] - 122:21,

123:10, 124:10,

124:12, 125:8,

127:14, 127:15,

137:1, 179:21,

196:3, 196:4, 196:11

accomplish [1] -

202:13

accomplished [2] -

202:9, 203:7

accordance [2] -

207:4, 207:14

according [3] - 43:4,

47:16, 142:23

accordingly [1] -

207:7

accurate [4] - 48:7,

130:6, 131:21, 206:8

acknowledge [2] -

124:21, 162:8

acknowledged [1] -

120:13

acquaintance [1] -

95:4

acquired [5] - 18:23,

19:15, 25:16, 29:18,

37:19

acquiring [1] - 19:9

acres [1] - 20:4

acting [1] - 73:5

action [3] - 159:22,

205:14, 205:18

actions [1] - 201:21

activities [2] - 49:19,

77:23

actual [2] - 157:24,

193:22

add [12] - 63:24, 64:5,

64:23, 65:8, 67:16,

67:18, 67:20, 68:13,

103:22, 104:9,

104:22, 148:7

add-on [4] - 63:24,

67:16, 67:20, 68:13

added [12] - 30:21,

51:19, 63:23, 64:3,

64:11, 64:17, 65:2,

65:6, 67:1, 67:6,

134:19, 135:22

adding [2] - 105:21,

111:5

addition [1] - 115:6

additional [3] - 31:24,

68:14, 146:19

additions [1] - 68:9

address [1] - 6:7

administrative [2] -

11:9, 11:14

Administrative [2] -

11:15, 84:8

Admiralty [2] - 43:20,

44:1

advance [1] - 203:3

adverse [2] - 128:6,

128:9

advice [1] - 128:14

aesthetically [1] -

185:9

affixed [1] - 205:20

agencies [1] - 80:24

agency [2] - 75:16,

80:18

ago [15] - 7:21, 10:5,

58:6, 58:14, 73:19,

93:17, 93:19, 94:15,

95:13, 97:10,

125:16, 150:6,

190:12, 192:12,

204:16

agree [29] - 7:19, 19:5,

38:14, 39:4, 47:15,

48:5, 53:1, 69:18,

70:14, 71:17, 72:7,

74:21, 75:1, 110:22,

113:15, 113:20,

117:7, 120:18,

121:10, 121:17,

125:1, 150:13,

166:16, 168:3,

170:23, 179:2,

180:2, 180:7, 180:20

agreed [10] - 5:4, 5:13,

82:16, 87:4, 115:24,

120:16, 127:6,

LINDA M. THOMAS COURT REPORTING

2147:13, 147:20,

148:4

agreeing [1] - 113:15

Agreement [5] - 4:11,

199:23, 200:8,

202:5, 202:19

agreement [10] -

116:18, 199:16,

202:5, 202:14,

203:7, 203:10,

203:17, 203:21,

204:1, 204:14

ahead [2] - 122:8,

193:2

air [1] - 116:8

allege [1] - 180:14

allow [2] - 34:16,

85:24

allowed [2] - 84:10,

170:17

alma [1] - 148:2

Almond [7] - 25:11,

68:1, 68:6, 69:2,

93:3, 167:21, 168:5

almost [8] - 62:2, 77:1,

133:4, 133:5,

139:23, 140:24,

141:10, 148:22

alter [1] - 201:5

Amiralty [1] - 43:18

amount [5] - 125:22,

186:18, 187:1,

187:16, 187:19

answer [32] - 14:17,

30:1, 36:10, 36:12,

38:18, 44:18, 60:23,

84:6, 84:12, 87:6,

87:16, 97:11, 105:1,

114:1, 123:22,

124:1, 126:8,

126:13, 132:20,

144:11, 145:12,

147:23, 148:9,

151:9, 152:16,

153:24, 157:16,

158:3, 159:2, 166:3,

174:18, 176:17

answered [4] - 122:8,

126:15, 165:15,

184:3

answers [1] - 145:14

antenna [1] - 158:15

ANY [2] - 206:3, 206:4

anyways [1] - 19:8

apologize [1] - 109:10

Appeal [1] - 82:9

appeal [4] - 84:7, 84:9,

86:24, 87:3

appealed [1] - 84:3

Appeals [1] - 78:7

Apple [1] - 43:16

application [6] -

75:14, 98:2, 101:3,

101:8, 102:3, 102:11

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applications [6] -

75:13, 76:10, 76:11,

77:16, 77:20, 80:20

applied [5] - 99:15,

100:16, 128:12,

147:20, 148:3

APPLY [1] - 206:3

apply [13] - 78:19,

97:3, 97:12, 97:16,

98:10, 98:18, 98:21,

99:7, 99:10, 100:11,

100:12, 128:15,

169:11

appreciate [9] - 58:21,

105:1, 122:9,

122:22, 132:13,

147:23, 179:18,

187:23, 190:20

apprentice [1] - 9:1

approached [1] -

105:21

Approval [1] - 42:12

approval [20] - 76:12,

78:16, 79:17, 84:17,

87:8, 87:12, 87:14,

95:24, 96:12, 96:23,

101:1, 146:13,

146:16, 147:3,

147:17, 147:19,

148:12, 148:16,

190:3, 204:9

approvals [4] - 71:5,

72:14, 73:11, 73:18

approved [3] - 31:12,

96:5, 98:14

approving [1] - 87:19

approximate [3] -

68:17, 133:15, 189:3

approximation [2] -

69:22, 129:21

approximations [1] -

70:7

April [3] - 3:13, 24:2,

24:13

area [115] - 15:14,

21:18, 22:10, 26:2,

26:13, 26:14, 27:14,

27:15, 28:5, 28:12,

29:22, 30:15, 43:14,

50:11, 51:21, 54:14,

54:18, 54:19, 59:15,

59:21, 59:23, 60:6,

60:14, 62:18, 67:21,

69:12, 69:13, 70:18,

71:9, 71:11, 71:23,

72:11, 88:15, 89:10,

89:19, 89:22, 90:14,

91:1, 91:3, 91:4,

101:9, 101:10,

104:3, 104:19,

120:14, 121:14,

121:19, 121:24,

122:19, 123:2,

123:7, 123:10,

124:5, 124:9,

124:18, 124:22,

124:24, 125:5,

125:12, 125:17,

126:4, 127:3, 127:6,

127:10, 128:11,

129:1, 129:19,

130:15, 130:20,

131:2, 131:9,

131:20, 131:22,

132:4, 132:22,

134:15, 135:13,

138:1, 138:9,

138:11, 138:18,

139:7, 139:9,

140:23, 142:7,

149:3, 155:19,

155:20, 156:2,

156:6, 156:13,

156:18, 157:18,

160:6, 160:9,

160:22, 160:24,

161:19, 161:23,

162:5, 167:14,

169:20, 171:1,

171:14, 171:22,

177:16, 178:7,

178:22, 179:7,

179:8, 180:1, 180:5,

196:4, 196:12

Area [1] - 62:15

areas [17] - 12:1, 55:7,

65:14, 65:16, 82:13,

86:11, 95:15, 101:6,

101:7, 116:6, 135:2,

135:3, 155:13,

157:20, 185:12

argue [1] - 88:8

armor [1] - 132:17

article [1] - 123:14

aside [1] - 61:10

assembled [3] - 75:4,

75:7, 77:10

assessment [7] -

189:15, 189:17,

189:19, 189:21,

190:4, 190:9

ASSN [1] - 1:5

association [2] -

168:20, 202:24

assume [8] - 27:19,

29:13, 48:10, 61:13,

102:6, 102:9,

124:14, 167:1

assuming [1] - 113:13

assumption [1] -

43:13

AT [1] - 1:5

attached [2] - 74:5,

159:5

attempt [1] - 76:17

attempted [2] - 48:20,

80:22

attend [2] - 6:23, 7:9

attendance [1] - 8:9

attended [1] - 7:6

attention [2] - 196:20,

199:1

attitude [3] - 113:7,

114:3, 114:4

attorney [18] - 13:3,

80:11, 102:16,

109:5, 109:6,

109:15, 147:12,

147:14, 152:17,

157:17, 157:18,

165:17, 172:13,

175:10, 182:14,

205:12, 205:16

attorney-client [1] -

157:18

attract [1] - 62:16

August [4] - 3:21,

73:22, 74:3, 74:10

authority [7] - 11:17,

12:2, 86:21, 151:20,

177:15, 191:12,

192:19

Authority [5] - 62:7,

62:8, 62:10, 62:12,

62:21

authorization [1] -

107:9

available [3] - 80:23,

119:13, 129:15

aware [44] - 18:6, 32:4,

32:8, 32:10, 45:22,

46:1, 46:2, 46:14,

51:11, 73:8, 73:13,

73:15, 73:21, 75:20,

77:15, 80:12, 97:10,

99:13, 99:14, 99:20,

99:23, 99:24,

100:13, 102:20,

103:2, 109:23,

111:15, 111:17,

112:8, 113:18,

122:2, 135:6,

158:20, 160:15,

160:17, 161:7,

161:12, 169:19,

173:18, 182:12,

182:15, 188:21,

196:15

awful [1] - 10:18

awhile [1] - 58:19

B

backfill [1] - 155:10

backfilled [2] - 69:5,

135:23

background [1] - 6:20

bank [50] - 57:6,

81:12, 82:16, 82:18,

82:20, 82:21, 83:3,

84:14, 86:10, 86:22,

87:8, 87:19, 88:2,

89:7, 90:8, 102:24,

112:6, 113:10,

116:9, 120:20,

121:2, 121:12,

122:4, 129:19,

130:5, 130:6, 130:7,

131:2, 131:9,

131:20, 131:22,

132:1, 132:4,

138:19, 139:22,

140:2, 140:5, 143:9,

144:23, 144:24,

145:1, 145:3, 145:7,

145:21, 145:24,

146:4, 146:7, 146:9,

174:10, 192:5

barrier [1] - 174:14

base [6] - 35:2, 41:7,

45:2, 70:3, 186:5,

186:6

based [32] - 17:13,

18:16, 27:2, 28:2,

28:7, 36:10, 40:6,

45:6, 48:4, 48:8,

49:9, 51:5, 61:14,

66:5, 76:10, 77:20,

99:14, 128:14,

133:23, 139:13,

146:10, 151:13,

153:9, 165:23,

166:4, 166:5, 176:2,

184:22, 186:17,

187:23, 202:9,

202:17

basic [1] - 167:6

basis [1] - 197:24

bathrooms [1] - 10:17

Bay [6] - 24:18, 34:18,

38:16, 39:2, 39:5,

39:7

beach [11] - 21:10,

21:18, 21:22, 22:4,

22:10, 22:12, 22:17,

22:21, 23:10,

139:24, 141:10

Beattie [18] - 103:18,

118:15, 118:16,

119:6, 119:21,

126:24, 152:21,

152:22, 153:3,

153:13, 153:20,

154:21, 154:23,

191:2, 191:24,

192:3, 192:8, 198:12

beauty [1] - 10:15

became [5] - 10:20,

16:14, 17:12, 86:8,

135:24

become [7] - 10:3,

14:21, 15:23, 16:16,

119:13, 124:17,

196:15

becoming [3] - 10:8,

10:11, 13:7

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3began [1] - 155:18

beginning [2] - 35:15,

101:21

behalf [3] - 1:12, 73:5,

114:18

behind [12] - 22:4,

22:5, 22:24, 35:1,

36:18, 41:11, 112:5,

140:5, 176:24,

187:1, 196:9, 201:9

belly [2] - 28:10, 28:11

belonging [3] - 3:17,

37:1, 37:5

below [3] - 60:11,

163:3, 164:7

beneficial [4] - 113:9,

122:13, 173:16,

173:21

benefit [4] - 34:7,

172:7, 172:9, 186:7

benefits [1] - 174:13

Bert [1] - 126:23

best [5] - 7:22, 8:1,

29:12, 152:18, 206:7

better [8] - 18:1,

29:13, 43:2, 46:10,

122:13, 175:1,

175:2, 184:16

between [30] - 5:5,

11:6, 23:20, 28:12,

32:5, 32:23, 41:2,

50:24, 54:24, 56:15,

56:17, 57:24, 59:10,

60:19, 61:12, 64:2,

64:10, 72:8, 78:13,

81:10, 90:17,

103:22, 114:23,

118:9, 122:15,

160:13, 173:24,

195:9, 196:7, 204:10

beyond [2] - 96:9,

147:24

big [5] - 18:8, 58:5,

58:8, 76:15, 132:17

big' [1] - 190:2

billings [1] - 163:5

birth [1] - 6:17

bit [6] - 16:5, 18:16,

52:8, 63:15, 66:23,

152:2

bits [1] - 77:7

black [4] - 81:17,

88:23, 89:12, 129:15

BLM [10] - 150:20,

152:13, 157:7,

158:9, 165:17,

169:3, 172:21,

173:7, 177:14,

177:18

BLM's [2] - 178:15,

180:11

block [13] - 34:24,

38:4, 41:5, 89:14,

91:13, 91:16, 92:22,

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92:24, 100:17,

104:19, 104:22,

105:21, 185:6

blocked [3] - 38:21,

38:23, 196:8

blocking [1] - 41:14

blocks [3] - 59:12,

60:16, 185:9

bluff [27] - 21:19,

21:21, 21:23, 22:4,

22:5, 22:22, 23:3,

23:7, 26:13, 26:14,

27:20, 27:22, 28:1,

28:8, 28:22, 29:22,

30:7, 30:15, 30:18,

134:9, 134:10,

134:23, 134:24,

135:22, 139:1, 141:7

bluffs [6] - 22:13,

22:15, 22:16, 22:18,

22:20, 22:21

Board [38] - 61:18,

62:9, 62:23, 63:2,

63:11, 78:6, 78:7,

78:8, 106:5, 106:24,

107:1, 110:16,

113:8, 114:3, 115:9,

115:12, 116:15,

116:16, 116:19,

117:1, 117:8, 118:5,

123:12, 125:20,

126:3, 126:18,

126:23, 151:24,

152:4, 152:12,

184:20, 190:1,

190:17, 191:1,

191:10, 194:8,

194:21

boards [1] - 62:5

boardwalk [1] - 119:17

boat [7] - 94:9, 156:2,

156:6, 156:10,

157:7, 157:22,

166:16

Boat [1] - 160:13

boating [1] - 94:22

boats [20] - 104:8,

129:23, 155:19,

156:13, 156:18,

156:21, 157:4,

157:11, 157:23,

158:8, 158:9,

158:10, 158:24,

159:13, 159:24,

166:6, 167:8, 168:3,

193:13

book [1] - 24:5

Book [3] - 24:8, 33:5,

39:20

BORDEN [1] - 1:7

Borden [122] - 4:8,

8:22, 9:10, 9:12,

9:16, 9:18, 9:24,

10:3, 10:9, 10:11,

10:13, 10:24, 11:7,

11:8, 11:16, 11:21,

12:2, 12:9, 12:12,

13:8, 13:14, 13:18,

13:23, 14:6, 14:15,

14:22, 15:9, 15:17,

15:23, 16:14, 16:22,

17:3, 17:7, 17:10,

17:13, 17:18, 18:11,

19:10, 20:4, 37:20,

48:19, 49:3, 49:24,

50:3, 51:10, 51:12,

55:4, 57:14, 57:23,

60:17, 62:18, 63:8,

64:1, 65:4, 65:12,

65:22, 67:3, 69:7,

71:4, 72:16, 72:22,

73:5, 73:17, 75:17,

77:16, 77:21, 78:15,

80:13, 80:19, 82:15,

82:24, 84:15, 85:1,

86:20, 87:7, 90:13,

96:11, 98:10, 98:21,

99:7, 99:15, 100:12,

100:22, 101:24,

102:21, 109:4,

109:14, 109:15,

111:4, 111:15,

111:17, 114:18,

114:24, 115:4,

120:9, 120:19,

121:12, 122:5,

122:18, 122:24,

123:3, 123:6, 123:9,

124:3, 124:4, 124:9,

124:21, 157:21,

160:13, 160:21,

160:23, 162:19,

162:22, 164:10,

177:20, 180:9,

180:23, 182:20,

195:16, 196:7,

202:6, 202:12

Boston [1] - 149:3

bottom [4] - 66:21,

133:21, 134:23,

134:24

Bouffard [7] - 126:24,

152:21, 154:22,

155:5, 191:4, 191:5,

192:17

bought [5] - 14:12,

14:13, 14:20, 17:15,

17:16

bound [3] - 161:4,

161:5, 167:19

boundary [5] - 53:10,

149:21, 149:23,

150:14, 161:8

bounds [1] - 150:12

Box [1] - 2:6

boxes [1] - 81:2

break [6] - 36:20,

79:23, 79:24, 80:4,

96:3, 128:23

BRENNAN [76] - 2:5,

5:17, 19:4, 24:3,

24:5, 24:9, 24:23,

26:21, 32:12, 33:16,

33:20, 38:17, 39:4,

44:4, 44:17, 47:2,

47:4, 47:18, 48:6,

56:7, 56:10, 58:16,

59:2, 74:23, 75:3,

77:3, 79:21, 80:8,

106:14, 107:4,

107:20, 109:7,

113:22, 120:12,

120:23, 121:4,

122:7, 126:15,

128:19, 129:10,

131:5, 131:12,

134:14, 136:12,

140:19, 143:18,

145:15, 145:22,

146:23, 153:23,

157:9, 157:19,

158:5, 159:1,

159:14, 159:18,

161:13, 164:2,

166:2, 169:8,

170:12, 175:13,

175:21, 175:23,

176:4, 176:16,

194:2, 194:5,

195:12, 195:19,

197:10, 197:16,

200:4, 200:10,

201:23, 204:19

Brennan [4] - 3:4,

3:22, 74:4, 74:10

Brian [16] - 3:15,

13:20, 13:24, 14:12,

14:13, 14:20, 17:16,

18:18, 20:3, 32:5,

32:21, 32:24, 33:4,

33:14, 34:1, 34:6

bridge [1] - 39:8

briefly [2] - 195:24,

202:4

bring [1] - 201:3

bringing [1] - 142:9

BRISTOL [2] - 1:3,

205:1

broken [2] - 176:23,

177:4

brother [1] - 164:17

brought [5] - 17:18,

131:1, 138:14,

142:4, 159:22

Bruce [2] - 148:17,

184:9

bucket [1] - 109:22

build [12] - 34:12,

36:17, 40:16, 40:17,

40:22, 41:19, 79:8,

110:16, 115:10,

119:14, 133:8

Building [76] - 52:18,

54:15, 54:20, 54:21,

55:3, 59:24, 60:3,

60:5, 60:15, 63:4,

63:5, 68:3, 69:15,

69:18, 70:11, 72:11,

75:14, 78:5, 78:9,

78:14, 78:15, 79:16,

81:9, 81:20, 88:21,

89:17, 90:19, 91:2,

97:3, 97:12, 97:16,

97:23, 98:2, 98:11,

98:18, 98:22, 99:7,

99:10, 99:15, 99:20,

100:2, 100:8,

100:12, 100:18,

100:23, 101:6,

101:14, 101:22,

102:1, 102:4, 102:7,

104:20, 104:21,

111:12, 111:13,

127:24, 128:2,

136:24, 154:5,

162:8, 162:18,

178:18, 178:19,

178:21, 179:6,

179:9, 179:22,

180:14, 180:15,

181:17, 182:22,

183:4, 196:13,

202:20, 203:15

building [25] - 38:20,

53:5, 54:21, 62:14,

69:14, 69:17, 71:14,

88:10, 112:7,

140:12, 140:13,

140:15, 155:1,

155:2, 162:8,

163:14, 163:18,

164:23, 165:3,

167:22, 179:14,

184:15, 193:20,

202:20, 202:22

buildings [31] - 22:24,

34:13, 34:23, 34:24,

35:10, 35:16, 35:18,

41:4, 44:20, 44:23,

45:10, 46:4, 52:23,

53:2, 53:6, 55:23,

71:13, 104:18,

133:14, 151:5,

153:15, 155:13,

167:4, 167:7,

168:17, 168:23,

169:11, 189:21,

189:22

Buildings [4] - 103:23,

181:3, 181:21,

200:18

built [35] - 30:4, 31:4,

34:24, 38:20, 41:5,

41:13, 41:16, 44:10,

45:11, 45:13, 55:23,

63:22, 64:10, 64:12,

65:15, 67:23, 70:5,

70:14, 70:23, 72:1,

LINDA M. THOMAS COURT REPORTING

4134:5, 134:13,

135:22, 140:4,

162:15, 163:1,

164:7, 167:4, 167:8,

169:11, 169:15,

184:20, 186:20,

203:1, 203:6

bunch [3] - 21:5, 22:3

burden [1] - 13:2

burning [2] - 19:21,

19:22

Burt [2] - 152:21,

154:21

business [9] - 10:15,

30:23, 94:17, 94:24,

95:1, 95:3, 157:10,

157:12, 158:1

buttress [1] - 69:4

buy [1] - 185:8

buyer [1] - 204:10

BY [68] - 6:3, 13:22,

19:6, 24:15, 25:3,

26:24, 32:16, 33:7,

33:22, 37:8, 38:22,

39:10, 40:2, 44:7,

44:22, 47:9, 47:23,

48:12, 56:14, 59:7,

60:4, 74:14, 75:11,

77:14, 80:9, 106:19,

107:7, 107:22,

108:9, 109:12,

110:11, 112:17,

114:8, 120:17,

121:9, 122:16,

123:20, 126:19,

128:22, 129:17,

131:18, 134:17,

136:21, 141:6,

144:3, 145:18,

146:2, 147:1, 154:6,

158:7, 159:20,

161:17, 164:9,

166:8, 169:13,

170:20, 175:16,

175:24, 176:11,

177:2, 189:12,

189:23, 194:5,

195:19, 197:16,

200:10, 202:3, 206:4

C

camping [1] - 94:22

Canada [1] - 18:10

capacity [1] - 172:6

Captain [2] - 162:7,

162:18

car [1] - 124:17

care [1] - 104:13

carefully [1] - 207:7

carried [1] - 92:14

case [8] - 13:3, 18:17,

47:17, 84:8, 112:9,

117:4, 117:5, 159:19

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Case [1] - 6:24

cases [3] - 84:18,

152:2, 155:8

cash [2] - 17:13, 17:22

Castonguay [1] -

106:5

casual [1] - 118:8

caused [2] - 176:4,

176:6

causes [1] - 177:24

certain [9] - 65:6,

110:20, 110:21,

139:5, 155:18,

188:24, 190:17,

194:13, 204:7

certainly [3] - 19:5,

157:16, 190:21

CERTIFICATE [1] -

206:5

CERTIFICATION [1] -

206:3

Certified [2] - 1:22,

205:2

certify [4] - 205:4,

205:9, 205:12, 206:6

CERTIFYING [1] -

206:4

Chairperson [1] -

108:1

change [6] - 141:19,

144:20, 144:24,

145:7, 145:8, 184:23

CHANGE [1] - 207:16

changed [12] - 15:12,

16:22, 24:21, 25:5,

35:15, 35:17, 35:20,

42:15, 139:7, 142:9,

146:24, 200:3

changes [1] - 207:8

changes/corrections

[1] - 207:13

changing [2] - 142:6,

142:8

charge [2] - 62:16,

157:23

Charles [2] - 2:10,

191:17

check [3] - 88:20,

145:9, 179:1

chief [1] - 159:19

children [1] - 6:15

Church [1] - 2:6

circumstances [4] -

16:13, 19:17, 67:5,

93:18

City [8] - 61:22, 62:1,

62:6, 97:4, 97:12,

98:11, 99:19, 183:3

Civil [1] - 1:12

claim [1] - 178:14

clean [4] - 104:2,

116:9, 193:5, 193:11

cleaned [2] - 23:20,

196:5

cleaning [4] - 10:17,

20:9, 103:3, 193:20

clear [3] - 13:1, 50:12,

88:9

clearing [1] - 93:20

clearly [3] - 142:24,

151:12, 204:15

clerical [1] - 11:12

client [6] - 56:12,

77:13, 84:4, 145:12,

157:18, 158:3

client's [1] - 170:16

clients [1] - 179:17

cliff [5] - 22:23, 23:11,

23:13, 27:23, 141:1

close [1] - 21:7

closer [3] - 137:17,

139:21, 140:9

Club [6] - 25:12, 90:2,

91:23, 160:8, 160:9,

160:13

club [1] - 160:24

clubhouse [5] - 31:6,

31:16, 31:17, 31:22,

32:1

coastal [5] - 82:16,

82:18, 144:23,

145:1, 145:24

collapsed [2] - 136:8,

204:12

collect [1] - 201:2

collectively [2] - 12:6,

74:6

collects [1] - 171:19

color [4] - 50:11,

50:13, 51:16, 89:19

colored [1] - 91:1

colors [1] - 71:21

coming [4] - 140:24,

154:3, 164:20, 165:3

commencement [1] -

9:19

commencing [1] -

1:17

commerce [1] - 62:16

Commercial [2] - 1:16,

2:3

Commission [6] -

61:4, 61:17, 79:11,

96:16, 205:24,

206:22

common [1] - 159:10

COMMONWEALTH [3]

- 1:2, 205:1, 205:4

Commonwealth [5] -

1:14, 61:8, 162:15,

163:1, 163:20

Commonwealth-

filled [1] - 61:8

communicate [1] -

194:17

communication [2] -

110:15, 157:18

communications [2] -

114:23, 194:7

company [11] - 11:2,

17:23, 18:8, 18:9,

29:4, 54:4, 70:23,

150:5, 150:6, 150:8,

185:6

company's [1] -

148:24

comparative [1] -

174:13

compare [1] - 174:20

complete [2] - 75:9,

127:19

completed [2] - 72:4,

203:23

completing [1] -

207:12

completion [1] -

105:11

complex [14] - 21:20,

26:3, 26:4, 29:5,

30:4, 30:20, 32:7,

34:16, 37:16, 44:16,

45:23, 46:3, 53:6,

125:2

compliments [1] -

195:10

complying [7] - 27:18,

68:15, 68:18, 89:1,

89:3, 89:21, 161:22

complying] [1] - 51:4

composed [1] - 56:1

composition [2] -

56:20, 57:15

concept [5] - 35:14,

45:8, 128:6, 128:8,

128:9

conceptual [3] - 36:1,

36:9, 36:11

concern [1] - 104:17

concerning [1] - 205:7

concerns [1] - 121:8

concert [3] - 113:10,

119:18, 122:14

concluded [3] - 119:2,

204:21

conclusion [2] -

159:7, 207:13

concrete [11] - 53:9,

59:11, 59:16, 59:17,

60:7, 60:11, 178:23,

179:21, 179:24,

180:2

Concrete [3] - 51:7,

186:12, 186:14

Condition [3] - 79:6,

80:17, 85:22

conditions [12] -

43:13, 110:21,

111:1, 111:16,

111:18, 111:20,

113:13, 113:19,

114:9, 145:8,

174:17, 174:20

Conditions [20] -

33:19, 75:15, 78:22,

78:24, 79:9, 80:6,

80:16, 82:9, 84:1,

84:2, 85:5, 86:5,

86:9, 86:19, 87:1,

87:3, 87:18, 95:16,

109:18, 177:21

condo [1] - 202:17

condominium [16] -

21:20, 26:3, 26:4,

26:11, 29:4, 30:4,

30:20, 32:7, 34:16,

37:15, 44:15, 45:23,

46:3, 53:6, 168:11,

168:17

CONDOMINIUM [1] -

1:5

Condominiums [1] -

129:20

condominiums [6] -

20:21, 21:2, 29:22,

135:23, 167:4, 168:7

condominiums' [1] -

168:15

condos [10] - 28:13,

35:1, 36:1, 41:11,

44:21, 131:6, 131:8,

137:24, 167:8, 168:8

confidential [3] -

157:10, 157:20,

158:1

confines [1] - 166:23

confuse [1] - 16:5

confused [4] - 20:22,

21:16, 82:14, 161:14

confusing [1] - 106:15

connected [2] -

200:22, 200:24

connection [1] - 94:8

Conservation [6] -

61:4, 61:17, 78:2,

78:9, 79:10, 96:16

consider [2] - 95:5,

128:9

considered [1] - 166:7

consisted [2] - 81:11,

160:11

consistent [1] -

167:10

constitute [1] - 193:16

constituted [2] -

191:11, 192:19

constitutes [1] -

147:19

constituting [1] -

191:21

construct [21] - 41:23,

57:15, 86:10, 86:11,

86:21, 87:8, 88:1,

96:12, 96:17, 99:21,

107:9, 109:18,

113:9, 115:5,

118:17, 119:22,

LINDA M. THOMAS COURT REPORTING

5127:18, 154:4,

163:4, 202:17, 203:4

constructed [98] -

29:23, 31:13, 34:17,

42:21, 43:10, 43:12,

44:1, 46:5, 49:23,

50:2, 50:7, 50:12,

50:17, 50:23, 51:6,

51:9, 51:16, 52:10,

53:13, 54:8, 54:9,

54:23, 59:9, 61:5,

64:1, 65:4, 65:11,

65:21, 67:22, 68:3,

68:7, 68:24, 70:10,

70:22, 71:10, 71:15,

71:23, 71:24, 72:4,

79:4, 83:6, 83:24,

84:22, 85:7, 86:2,

88:2, 89:10, 89:20,

91:3, 91:12, 91:22,

92:1, 92:5, 95:13,

95:19, 96:13, 96:17,

97:8, 97:14, 97:17,

97:18, 98:9, 98:13,

98:17, 98:23, 99:11,

102:19, 102:22,

103:4, 105:4,

107:10, 111:22,

121:18, 125:2,

125:6, 125:13,

127:17, 138:23,

139:9, 155:17,

156:9, 161:18,

162:21, 170:21,

170:24, 172:2,

181:11, 181:18,

182:5, 183:7,

183:16, 184:6,

185:1, 185:4,

185:13, 185:16,

186:2, 186:8

constructing [21] -

59:8, 60:18, 61:11,

71:5, 72:15, 78:16,

79:15, 81:19, 85:1,

96:23, 97:4, 97:13,

100:9, 106:6, 113:1,

120:20, 121:13,

146:10, 160:12,

172:16, 197:4

Construction [1] -

92:13

construction [111] -

31:24, 32:1, 32:7,

49:19, 51:13, 55:6,

63:18, 68:19, 69:9,

73:12, 75:17, 76:13,

77:17, 77:22, 78:13,

81:21, 82:10, 82:14,

82:15, 83:1, 83:9,

83:13, 83:16, 83:22,

84:10, 84:14, 85:3,

85:24, 87:13, 87:20,

88:13, 89:5, 89:14,

90:8, 90:21, 91:21,

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92:7, 96:10, 98:14,

99:16, 100:24,

102:23, 105:6,

106:20, 111:24,

116:10, 116:13,

116:20, 117:22,

119:9, 120:8, 121:2,

121:11, 122:4,

122:12, 122:17,

122:23, 123:4,

123:5, 124:2,

124:20, 127:19,

130:22, 131:3,

131:6, 131:7,

134:20, 135:14,

135:15, 135:21,

137:5, 138:13,

138:18, 143:9,

144:4, 144:6,

144:22, 145:21,

148:12, 149:5,

149:15, 149:19,

150:18, 150:19,

160:11, 161:24,

171:5, 172:6, 172:8,

173:12, 173:15,

173:20, 174:3,

174:7, 176:3, 176:6,

182:9, 182:16,

182:17, 183:9,

183:22, 184:4,

185:3, 188:1,

190:15, 191:13,

197:17, 197:21,

197:23, 201:8,

203:13

consult [15] - 12:14,

12:24, 152:17,

172:17, 172:23,

173:4, 173:7, 174:6,

183:21, 184:5,

184:8, 184:12,

185:15, 185:19,

186:9

consulted [3] - 147:7,

174:1, 187:9

consulting [1] - 187:7

contained [4] - 41:2,

111:1, 111:18,

114:10

contemplated [3] -

41:16, 165:20,

169:15

content [2] - 113:20,

193:22

contention [1] - 169:3

continuation [3] -

69:15, 88:16, 89:5

continue [5] - 14:7,

81:7, 88:10, 110:16,

116:1

continuing [1] -

198:17

contractor [3] -

143:11, 146:5, 146:6

contributes [1] -

174:11

contribution [1] -

17:14

control [19] - 80:13,

169:24, 170:4,

170:18, 171:6,

171:24, 172:1,

172:6, 172:9,

172:19, 173:11,

173:16, 173:21,

174:2, 174:7,

174:11, 174:15,

174:21, 175:18

conversation [33] -

67:10, 103:14,

103:16, 103:17,

103:19, 104:11,

105:5, 105:9,

105:13, 105:16,

105:20, 106:3,

106:10, 106:11,

107:16, 118:2,

118:8, 119:5,

119:11, 126:2,

126:6, 126:9, 153:5,

153:11, 153:20,

155:4, 173:23,

191:2, 192:7,

192:13, 192:17,

193:14

conversations [32] -

32:4, 32:9, 32:11,

32:15, 32:17, 32:22,

35:5, 46:14, 51:11,

67:14, 92:7, 102:20,

103:2, 103:9,

103:11, 109:23,

110:3, 117:21,

118:22, 119:8,

119:20, 120:4,

123:19, 125:20,

154:3, 190:24,

191:9, 191:15,

191:24, 192:11,

192:18, 198:22

convey [1] - 203:12

conveyed [4] - 20:3,

34:5, 37:20, 43:19

cooperation [1] -

203:2

copy [5] - 36:6, 42:7,

42:8, 102:3, 194:24

Corey [22] - 3:15,

13:20, 13:24, 14:12,

14:13, 14:14, 14:21,

18:18, 19:9, 19:15,

20:3, 20:12, 25:16,

29:8, 29:17, 32:5,

32:24, 33:4, 33:14,

34:1, 34:6, 37:20

corner [9] - 68:1,

90:18, 90:19,

101:13, 104:20,

131:13, 136:24,

151:3, 167:20

corners [2] - 103:23,

200:18

Correct [2] - 61:23,

87:11

correct [230] - 7:8,

7:11, 7:14, 8:2, 8:13,

10:10, 10:22, 12:18,

13:15, 13:17, 14:1,

14:2, 14:9, 14:18,

16:12, 18:2, 18:13,

18:14, 18:20, 18:21,

19:2, 20:13, 22:7,

23:3, 23:21, 24:19,

24:22, 26:11, 27:20,

27:21, 29:5, 29:6,

29:8, 29:14, 29:15,

29:18, 29:19, 30:21,

33:20, 37:16, 37:21,

37:22, 38:6, 38:10,

39:2, 41:18, 42:13,

42:21, 43:10, 43:11,

45:7, 48:9, 49:24,

50:1, 50:18, 50:19,

50:24, 51:1, 51:23,

51:24, 52:13, 52:15,

52:19, 52:20, 53:6,

53:19, 54:15, 54:20,

55:4, 55:5, 56:23,

59:19, 59:24, 61:16,

62:3, 62:4, 65:5,

65:13, 65:22, 65:23,

66:9, 66:12, 66:17,

67:14, 67:15, 68:5,

68:6, 69:1, 69:8,

70:12, 70:13, 70:15,

72:12, 72:13, 72:23,

75:3, 75:21, 79:17,

79:18, 81:15, 83:2,

83:3, 83:5, 83:7,

83:8, 83:11, 86:18,

86:22, 86:23, 87:10,

87:13, 88:22, 89:14,

89:15, 89:18, 90:2,

91:13, 91:14, 91:23,

92:1, 93:3, 94:19,

98:7, 98:11, 100:6,

100:14, 101:1,

101:2, 101:16,

101:17, 101:19,

101:22, 101:23,

103:11, 105:9,

107:17, 108:16,

109:16, 111:6,

111:7, 111:13,

111:14, 112:10,

112:23, 112:24,

114:11, 122:20,

123:8, 124:6, 124:7,

132:15, 133:6,

134:21, 134:22,

135:9, 135:18,

137:6, 137:7,

137:21, 138:14,

139:1, 141:8, 142:5,

147:6, 148:13,

153:22, 154:12,

154:13, 156:4,

156:6, 156:7, 158:5,

158:21, 158:22,

162:20, 164:12,

165:22, 166:1,

169:16, 171:2,

172:11, 175:6,

175:7, 177:4,

178:16, 178:17,

182:1, 182:2,

182:18, 182:21,

183:5, 184:11,

185:3, 185:13,

185:18, 186:22,

186:23, 188:8,

188:9, 189:15,

190:22, 190:23,

191:3, 191:22,

191:23, 192:1,

192:10, 192:14,

194:11, 194:14,

194:15, 195:5,

195:22, 195:23,

199:24, 201:13,

201:18, 201:19,

201:22, 202:6,

202:7, 202:10,

202:11, 202:20,

202:21, 203:14,

204:7, 205:10, 207:6

corrections [1] - 207:9

correctly [1] - 178:8

correspondence [5] -

74:3, 108:3, 110:5,

113:21, 114:21

cost [1] - 201:14

couches [1] - 23:18

Council [2] - 61:22,

62:1

Councillor [1] - 99:19

counsel [11] - 5:5,

73:22, 80:5, 82:3,

128:16, 128:17,

175:23, 199:18,

199:20, 205:13,

205:16

count [1] - 100:19

counterclaim [1] -

159:14

COUNTY [1] - 205:1

couple [4] - 9:14,

179:3, 180:18, 194:2

course [1] - 197:23

COURT [2] - 1:3, 1:21

Court [13] - 112:9,

112:19, 112:23,

113:11, 120:7,

120:13, 120:22,

121:15, 122:3,

159:11, 159:22,

159:23, 176:19

Cover [2] - 3:21, 74:9

LINDA M. THOMAS COURT REPORTING

6cover [3] - 88:4, 101:7,

101:8

covered [9] - 83:24,

86:3, 86:12, 86:17,

88:4, 95:15, 95:18,

96:7, 98:15

covers [3] - 81:24,

82:7, 159:8

create [2] - 30:8, 55:9

created [4] - 138:14,

142:5, 142:6, 143:3

creating [1] - 123:12

credit [1] - 56:13

CROSS [1] - 194:4

Cross [1] - 3:2

CSR [1] - 205:23

cull [1] - 109:8

cupola [3] - 163:8,

163:15, 163:18

custody [1] - 80:12

customer [1] - 95:7

customers [1] - 104:4

cut [10] - 55:8, 55:10,

55:18, 56:20, 56:22,

56:24, 57:2, 57:3,

155:3, 162:5

D

daily [2] - 198:11,

198:16

damage [2] - 176:1,

200:12

Dan [5] - 58:16, 79:7,

131:5, 143:18,

159:15

danger [1] - 178:7

DANIEL [3] - 1:15, 2:2,

2:2

Daniel [2] - 3:22, 74:10

Daquay [2] - 103:18,

191:8

Darlene [1] - 6:14

Dartmouth [6] - 6:22,

7:14, 7:17, 8:5,

93:16, 93:19

DATE [3] - 206:11,

206:16, 207:22

date [16] - 6:17, 15:22,

19:4, 47:2, 47:3,

57:10, 85:20, 89:2,

143:20, 147:2,

196:23, 196:24,

198:17, 199:11,

199:13, 204:14

dated [29] - 3:14, 3:18,

3:20, 3:21, 3:24, 4:1,

4:3, 4:6, 4:8, 4:11,

24:1, 33:5, 33:12,

37:2, 39:23, 47:7,

74:3, 74:10, 108:6,

110:5, 110:8,

112:15, 112:19,

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114:21, 189:8,

194:20, 195:2,

195:15, 200:8

dates [1] - 112:2

David's [1] - 162:18

Davis [1] - 162:8

day-to-day [1] -

197:24

dead [4] - 139:23,

176:8, 177:23,

200:16

dead-ended [2] -

176:8, 177:23

dead-headed [1] -

200:16

deal [2] - 11:2, 49:21

debris [2] - 23:17,

23:19

decade [5] - 16:2,

16:3, 16:6, 16:8

December [2] - 108:3,

199:12

decided [1] - 16:17

decision [5] - 11:16,

11:17, 12:2, 12:6,

12:7

decision-making [3] -

11:16, 11:17, 12:2

decisions [4] - 11:21,

12:4, 12:13, 12:17

deck [1] - 32:3

decks [3] - 181:4,

181:7, 181:10

Deed [2] - 3:14, 33:12

deed [6] - 19:5, 20:8,

33:3, 33:23, 39:16,

135:6

deeded [3] - 127:23,

127:24, 128:2

Deeds [1] - 35:12

deeds [1] - 130:21

Defendant [2] - 1:8,

2:7

Defendant's [1] - 80:5

define [1] - 36:8

definitely [1] - 71:19

definition [5] - 166:5,

166:9, 166:10,

166:12, 168:7

definitively [1] - 36:3

degree [2] - 8:4, 8:12

delineation [1] -

151:12

DEP [18] - 78:2, 78:9,

79:11, 79:13, 79:17,

81:21, 82:2, 83:14,

84:8, 84:16, 85:2,

86:21, 87:8, 87:19,

95:17, 95:24, 96:12,

146:24

department [1] - 42:14

DEPARTMENT [1] -

1:3

Department [2] - 78:5,

78:9

depict [12] - 27:23,

68:12, 90:4, 128:24,

129:3, 129:19,

129:23, 131:2,

132:22, 136:23,

136:24, 137:8

depicted [19] - 24:17,

25:7, 25:18, 25:24,

43:14, 47:12, 47:15,

49:11, 51:21, 51:22,

52:18, 64:13, 70:18,

72:12, 78:14, 79:16,

81:16, 95:24, 161:18

depicts [4] - 52:22,

53:1, 130:2, 155:12

deponent [1] - 205:5

deposes [1] - 5:21

deposit [2] - 201:3,

201:9

deposited [1] - 203:9

DEPOSITION [1] -

1:10

deposition [13] - 5:6,

5:8, 5:13, 5:16,

58:23, 77:1, 204:21,

205:14, 206:7,

206:7, 207:6, 207:8,

207:9

Deposition [15] -

24:11, 33:12, 37:4,

39:22, 47:6, 74:9,

108:6, 110:8,

112:14, 131:15,

136:18, 189:8,

195:15, 197:13,

200:7

depositions [2] -

157:16, 207:5

derelict [1] - 193:12

describe [17] - 6:19,

11:5, 20:23, 31:1,

35:22, 65:17, 65:24,

81:10, 90:7, 91:8,

91:15, 92:20, 94:23,

139:16, 160:10,

178:19, 195:24

described [15] - 8:10,

11:13, 23:1, 23:19,

26:13, 27:19, 76:10,

82:12, 91:21, 92:17,

96:11, 96:24,

141:11, 144:22,

154:15

description [1] -

167:18

DESCRIPTION [1] -

3:10

Design [1] - 149:1

design [1] - 204:9

Designated [1] - 62:15

designated [1] - 48:5

designed [2] - 34:12,

190:10

destroyed [1] - 176:12

determination [4] -

186:24, 187:5,

187:13, 187:18

determine [6] - 48:15,

48:20, 159:23,

164:22, 172:18,

174:2

develop [1] - 44:14

developed [2] - 29:4,

95:8

developer [1] - 40:16

Development [23] -

29:2, 29:3, 29:21,

32:6, 44:11, 44:13,

45:14, 51:20, 56:24,

57:8, 64:3, 64:5,

64:17, 64:23, 66:7,

66:13, 67:2, 67:6,

67:13, 67:21, 68:13,

68:24, 142:14

development [2] -

29:21, 62:17

Development's [1] -

44:14

differ [2] - 49:10,

137:11

difference [6] - 40:15,

41:1, 56:11, 56:15,

56:17

differences [2] - 11:6,

40:11

different [19] - 40:8,

51:16, 71:3, 87:23,

97:22, 106:5, 107:1,

116:21, 118:7,

130:10, 132:4,

138:12, 138:16,

139:11, 151:16,

153:17, 175:4, 185:6

differs [1] - 136:5

difficult [2] - 58:24,

140:22

difficulty [1] - 58:22

dine [1] - 94:7

Direct [2] - 3:2, 200:11

direct [2] - 148:9,

196:20

DIRECT [1] - 6:1

directing [1] - 199:1

DIRECTION [1] - 206:4

direction [5] - 51:8,

53:21, 55:4, 114:6,

168:6

directly [2] - 123:23,

177:22

Directors [2] - 118:5,

191:10

dirt [8] - 56:3, 56:6,

56:7, 133:11, 136:9,

149:20, 152:2, 155:9

Dirt [1] - 56:10

disagree [1] - 157:15

disclosed [1] - 157:13

discuss [2] - 12:5,

165:6

discussed [2] - 67:13,

196:16

discussion [3] - 26:23,

46:21, 107:6

discussions [3] - 17:2,

106:24, 108:20

dispute [2] - 74:23,

120:16

disputes [1] - 169:3

distance [1] - 52:3

distinguish [1] - 56:8

diverted [2] - 190:11,

201:8

divides [1] - 160:16

Division [4] - 3:16,

36:24, 37:4, 87:5

DO [1] - 207:10

Dock [3] - 31:3, 31:8,

31:11

docks [3] - 31:7, 31:9,

49:14

document [18] - 23:23,

33:17, 39:19, 40:3,

46:23, 113:23,

114:16, 115:18,

136:22, 140:14,

188:23, 196:19,

199:3, 199:4, 199:7,

199:8, 199:9, 199:11

documents [11] -

73:14, 74:16, 75:4,

76:1, 76:3, 76:17,

76:20, 77:10, 80:12,

81:1, 109:8

Documents [9] - 3:23,

73:9, 73:10, 73:16,

73:23, 74:5, 74:6,

74:11, 80:4

DOES [1] - 206:3

done [62] - 20:16,

30:10, 32:1, 34:19,

42:6, 44:20, 46:7,

50:15, 50:20, 51:17,

52:14, 53:21, 55:3,

57:23, 67:2, 68:13,

68:22, 69:6, 69:17,

70:1, 76:5, 81:9,

83:1, 83:10, 83:22,

87:12, 87:20, 88:18,

89:4, 89:16, 89:22,

90:5, 91:5, 92:16,

94:16, 95:14, 96:1,

105:4, 111:24,

112:3, 117:2, 117:9,

118:20, 120:1,

120:6, 121:14,

121:19, 123:4,

130:16, 130:18,

143:17, 155:4,

155:8, 155:17,

160:5, 182:20,

184:23, 190:16,

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198:2, 198:9

doorstep [2] - 11:19,

11:20

Dore [6] - 3:24, 106:5,

107:13, 107:23,

108:4, 108:7

double [1] - 179:1

double-check [1] -

179:1

doubt [1] - 138:10

down [70] - 7:23, 7:24,

15:14, 19:19, 21:5,

22:23, 23:12, 27:5,

27:22, 29:10, 29:17,

34:23, 41:11, 45:15,

50:8, 50:14, 54:11,

59:19, 60:9, 68:17,

70:19, 71:11, 86:16,

87:14, 89:2, 89:24,

90:9, 96:3, 101:9,

104:4, 104:15,

104:20, 106:23,

117:17, 118:1,

118:4, 118:11,

118:12, 119:16,

123:13, 132:14,

132:23, 133:1,

133:2, 137:13,

137:15, 137:22,

138:3, 139:12,

139:23, 141:9,

142:1, 142:15,

151:2, 153:5,

164:20, 165:3,

165:5, 165:10,

167:23, 167:24,

168:5, 190:13,

192:21, 193:13,

196:1, 196:3, 196:6,

196:8

downspouts [3] -

176:7, 177:22,

200:17

downward [1] - 21:23

DPA [2] - 62:15, 62:19

drain [1] - 176:24

drainage [25] - 66:23,

69:5, 93:4, 119:16,

170:3, 170:6, 170:7,

170:18, 171:7,

171:9, 171:10,

171:17, 171:18,

176:2, 176:10,

176:12, 177:3,

177:15, 177:22,

177:23, 178:5,

178:11, 200:12,

200:20

draining [1] - 176:2

draw [4] - 50:6, 65:18,

159:7

drawn [6] - 3:12,

23:24, 24:12, 24:22,

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driving [2] - 81:12,

89:7

dropped [2] - 82:8,

87:2

due [7] - 38:11, 59:3,

167:16, 167:17,

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168:10

dug [10] - 28:18,

28:20, 28:22, 69:3,

125:9, 132:12,

133:6, 136:6, 176:8

duly [3] - 5:21, 205:3,

205:6

dumped [1] - 130:11

during [16] - 67:10,

122:22, 128:23,

135:14, 135:21,

137:5, 138:13,

150:18, 161:24,

176:12, 176:23,

177:3, 182:9,

182:16, 193:6,

197:23

duties [4] - 10:13,

10:24, 11:7, 12:10

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E-mail [1] - 1:24

earliest [1] - 50:16

early [20] - 14:11,

14:14, 15:6, 64:7,

64:11, 64:20, 68:10,

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99:5, 99:18, 100:16,

115:13, 115:15,

132:5, 133:23,

135:19, 146:17,

146:20

Easement [3] - 3:18,

39:19, 39:22

easement [70] - 34:7,

34:11, 34:16, 36:15,

37:24, 38:2, 40:7,

40:8, 40:23, 44:13,

45:20, 46:16, 46:17,

120:14, 120:24,

121:5, 121:14,

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169:4, 169:11,

169:20, 169:24,

170:1, 170:9,

170:12, 171:1,

171:4, 171:8,

171:11, 171:14,

171:22, 177:16,

178:7, 178:22,

179:7, 179:8,

179:13, 179:15,

180:6, 180:12, 196:4

easements [2] -

124:12, 196:5

eat [1] - 94:6

Ed [10] - 76:23, 79:19,

80:7, 109:20,

126:12, 145:11,

172:24, 173:4,

173:7, 184:9

edge [4] - 21:15,

21:21, 116:9, 140:9

edges [1] - 81:18

EDMUND [1] - 2:5

Edmund [3] - 3:22,

74:3, 74:10

educational [2] - 6:19,

8:8

effect [3] - 127:16,

193:3, 203:18

effectiveness [1] -

173:11

effectuated [1] - 202:8

efforts [3] - 75:24,

76:16, 102:10

egress [1] - 197:4

eight [7] - 13:13,

30:24, 106:9,

122:14, 137:24,

140:3, 192:12

eight-and-a-half [1] -

122:14

Eighty [1] - 30:24

Eighty-eight [1] -

30:24

either [9] - 8:21, 34:17,

70:14, 74:16,

111:11, 114:23,

165:24, 166:13,

170:15

Elevation [14] - 3:20,

46:23, 47:6, 48:14,

49:3, 49:6, 49:10,

52:21, 52:22, 134:1,

134:3, 135:2, 135:3,

155:12

elevation [17] - 21:14,

22:21, 23:9, 28:23,

30:21, 45:19, 55:9,

65:13, 66:15, 66:19,

66:20, 69:1, 133:7,

134:8, 134:10,

134:19, 141:10

elevations [9] - 47:12,

47:15, 47:19, 47:24,

48:5, 48:20, 49:5,

49:10, 134:14

embankment [28] -

21:11, 21:12, 55:9,

55:11, 55:17, 56:19,

82:23, 103:4, 106:8,

116:6, 133:3,

137:12, 137:15,

137:20, 140:9,

140:23, 142:7,

142:8, 142:10,

143:4, 144:14,

166:20, 176:9,

177:24, 193:20,

200:21

employed [2] - 205:13,

205:16

employee [1] - 205:16

employees [2] - 11:3,

12:5

employment [4] - 9:8,

9:20, 10:13, 11:6

emptied [1] - 58:5

empty [2] - 27:4, 55:24

enclosing [1] - 74:4

encompassed [2] -

169:24, 170:9

encouraged [1] -

116:22

encroach [1] - 180:11

encroached [1] -

180:1

encroaches [5] -

178:24, 179:6,

179:9, 179:14, 180:6

encroaching [1] -

182:1

encroachment [4] -

178:15, 178:19,

178:22, 179:2

end [64] - 21:5, 21:6,

22:2, 22:9, 22:13,

22:15, 27:5, 27:6,

27:7, 31:5, 31:20,

51:23, 52:11, 54:7,

59:14, 64:2, 65:20,

66:2, 66:21, 90:2,

90:15, 93:2, 101:9,

101:10, 101:18,

101:21, 104:16,

116:11, 117:2,

117:9, 117:18,

118:21, 120:10,

121:21, 122:18,

122:24, 123:4,

124:3, 133:9,

139:14, 139:15,

140:2, 140:3,

141:16, 141:23,

141:24, 151:2,

153:22, 155:22,

155:23, 156:2,

168:1, 168:2, 183:7,

184:14, 185:21,

186:2, 193:13,

195:21, 196:2,

196:3, 196:14,

196:17, 202:23

ended [7] - 90:18,

133:11, 142:11,

142:13, 176:8,

177:23, 200:20

ends [2] - 39:7, 88:17

engineer [12] - 49:17,

100:21, 183:19,

183:21, 184:2,

184:13, 185:2,

185:7, 185:15,

185:16, 185:20,

187:8

Engineering [9] - 9:1,

47:1, 49:2, 149:9,

149:10, 149:16,

174:4, 174:5, 186:16

engineering [1] -

173:2

engineers [7] -

143:15, 144:13,

144:15, 144:16,

184:5, 184:10

enter [8] - 151:1,

151:17, 151:21,

152:5, 152:13,

152:23, 154:16,

197:5

entering [1] - 150:21

entire [1] - 121:20

entirely [1] - 139:11

entities [1] - 93:23

entitled [12] - 23:23,

36:24, 39:19, 46:23,

73:22, 123:17,

127:23, 153:7,

196:21, 197:8,

199:4, 207:5

entrance [3] - 90:16,

101:12

entry [2] - 151:4, 196:5

entryway [1] - 162:4

Environmental [6] -

42:6, 42:8, 42:9,

42:17, 42:20, 146:22

equipment [1] - 104:7

eradicate [1] - 112:6

erect [2] - 38:3, 182:23

erected [13] - 38:6,

38:10, 38:15,

162:18, 163:15,

164:10, 164:14,

165:7, 165:12,

168:23, 182:18,

183:23, 196:9

erecting [2] - 40:12,

103:3

erection [1] - 184:13

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8eroded [1] - 138:5

erodes [1] - 155:9

eroding [3] - 55:24,

139:22, 140:7

erosion [19] - 169:24,

170:3, 170:18,

171:6, 171:24,

172:1, 172:6, 172:9,

172:19, 173:11,

173:16, 173:21,

174:2, 174:6,

174:11, 174:14,

174:21, 175:18,

177:24

ERRATA [1] - 207:1

errata [1] - 207:8

especially [1] - 77:2

Esq [2] - 3:22, 74:10

ESQ [3] - 1:16, 2:2, 2:5

essential [1] - 197:6

essentially [3] - 94:14,

101:15, 155:7

estate [2] - 200:2,

204:12

etc [2] - 75:16, 80:20

evaluate [16] - 143:11,

144:7, 144:23,

145:3, 145:20,

145:23, 146:4,

146:6, 146:12,

146:15, 147:5,

147:11, 183:8,

183:10, 185:2,

186:22

evaluated [3] - 146:9,

148:15, 185:7

evaluation [2] -

148:20, 183:15

event [6] - 203:1,

203:11, 203:21,

204:6, 204:13

events [1] - 204:5

exact [6] - 15:5, 15:14,

54:16, 112:2,

193:22, 196:9

exactly [4] - 30:13,

66:23, 179:16,

193:19

Examination [1] -

200:11

examination [1] -

194:6

EXAMINATION [3] -

6:1, 194:4, 202:2

example [6] - 32:7,

47:22, 103:9,

120:10, 138:8,

155:22

excavate [9] - 86:10,

86:22, 87:8, 88:2,

126:4, 127:2,

127:10, 127:13,

156:17

excavated [20] - 57:16,

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Excavating [8] -

91:19, 91:20, 93:8,

93:22, 183:14,

183:17, 184:15,

188:6

excavating [8] - 81:12,

82:16, 82:18, 89:7,

91:16, 120:20,

121:12, 125:17

excavation [56] - 57:8,

57:14, 57:23, 83:13,

84:14, 84:21, 84:24,

85:3, 87:13, 87:19,

88:13, 89:5, 90:20,

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155:22, 156:1,

156:9, 176:2, 176:6,

176:13, 176:20,

176:21, 176:23,

177:3, 190:15,

191:13, 192:9,

201:18

excavations [1] -

152:23

exceed [5] - 158:10,

158:13, 158:14,

158:24, 160:1

except [1] - 5:10

excess [2] - 93:23,

136:9

excuse [1] - 13:21

executed [1] - 204:11

execution [1] - 46:15

exhibit [1] - 169:10

Exhibit [89] - 23:23,

24:11, 24:16, 24:17,

27:2, 27:9, 33:3,

33:12, 34:4, 36:23,

37:4, 37:10, 37:11,

37:12, 37:13, 37:14,

38:1, 39:11, 39:19,

39:20, 39:22, 40:4,

40:7, 40:9, 40:14,

40:15, 41:2, 43:1,

43:3, 45:21, 46:16,

46:22, 47:6, 47:11,

49:11, 63:18, 74:2,

74:7, 74:9, 74:15,

74:22, 108:3, 108:6,

108:11, 110:5,

110:8, 110:12,

111:5, 111:9,

111:16, 111:18,

111:22, 112:12,

112:14, 112:18,

113:2, 113:3,

113:12, 113:21,

114:10, 120:7,

131:10, 131:15,

131:19, 132:21,

133:14, 136:15,

136:18, 136:22,

138:7, 138:9,

140:11, 155:11,

161:19, 167:20,

189:6, 189:8,

189:13, 195:15,

197:11, 197:13,

200:7, 202:4

Exhibits [2] - 1:2,

132:10

existed [2] - 137:9,

138:9

existence [1] - 34:17

existing [2] - 174:20,

187:15

exists [2] - 114:16,

186:18

expanded [1] - 156:10

experience [3] - 8:8,

8:15, 146:10

expert [12] - 56:6,

144:23, 145:3,

145:20, 146:4,

146:12, 147:10,

147:17, 148:6,

148:11, 172:18,

174:1

expertise [1] - 148:1

experts [2] - 143:11,

144:7

expired [1] - 86:6

expires [2] - 205:24,

206:22

explain [2] - 83:19,

122:5

explanation [1] -

142:22

exposed [2] - 55:22,

57:6

exposure [1] - 100:18

express [1] - 152:10

expressly [2] - 152:11,

152:12

extend [3] - 22:22,

52:1, 83:18

extended [2] - 21:23,

137:20

extends [2] - 23:10,

69:1

extent [5] - 11:24,

76:19, 77:6, 104:11,

114:4

extra [1] - 142:14

eyes [1] - 41:10

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fabric [9] - 186:18,

187:1, 187:11,

187:14, 187:16,

187:19, 187:24,

188:2, 188:5

face [4] - 112:6,

137:13, 140:5,

177:11

faces [1] - 129:22

Facilities [1] - 9:1

facility [1] - 104:5

fact [8] - 74:21, 96:22,

100:22, 122:2,

151:13, 165:23,

185:23, 186:21

fair [14] - 20:18, 28:4,

60:23, 80:6, 93:21,

130:6, 131:21,

136:1, 149:14,

155:16, 176:13,

199:22, 200:22,

201:16

fairly [2] - 53:1, 84:22

Fall [24] - 3:12, 3:16,

6:8, 23:24, 24:12,

36:24, 37:5, 46:24,

61:22, 61:24, 62:6,

62:10, 62:11, 62:14,

62:15, 62:20, 63:1,

63:2, 63:12, 97:4,

97:13, 98:11, 102:7,

183:3

fall [8] - 103:14,

103:16, 104:4,

105:8, 105:10,

105:14, 105:19,

201:12

fallen [1] - 77:12

familiar [3] - 135:8,

198:12, 199:8

far [18] - 16:15, 33:21,

68:3, 69:6, 90:14,

93:2, 101:18,

101:21, 109:13,

114:9, 114:17,

154:11, 154:14,

155:2, 161:8,

175:11, 187:13,

189:19

far-southerly [1] -

90:14

fashion [3] - 75:22,

106:7, 125:21

father [64] - 10:9,

10:21, 12:6, 12:8,

12:12, 12:17, 13:7,

13:12, 14:12, 14:13,

14:20, 14:21, 15:21,

16:17, 16:19, 16:23,

17:1, 17:15, 17:19,

17:21, 18:1, 18:18,

19:9, 19:15, 19:19,

20:12, 25:15, 29:7,

29:13, 29:16, 32:5,

32:21, 32:23, 33:24,

34:6, 37:19, 46:10,

67:9, 67:13, 67:14,

67:16, 72:19, 73:3,

93:20, 93:22, 94:12,

94:15, 94:17, 95:1,

97:19, 98:1, 99:1,

99:12, 100:15,

108:14, 108:17,

108:20, 111:2,

114:13, 114:17,

147:15, 147:16,

148:7, 148:13

father's [2] - 12:23,

95:9

favor [3] - 60:8, 70:6,

96:8

fee [1] - 190:3

feed [1] - 190:11

feet [33] - 34:14, 35:19,

52:5, 52:6, 52:9,

52:11, 64:12, 65:1,

65:2, 65:5, 65:13,

66:1, 66:5, 66:6,

66:11, 66:18, 75:18,

100:1, 100:17,

111:5, 111:8,

113:16, 115:10,

134:9, 134:21,

141:15, 162:9,

164:2, 165:19,

170:18, 179:3,

180:18

fellow [1] - 188:22

felt [2] - 184:22,

202:24

fence [16] - 103:5,

104:9, 160:12,

160:15, 161:7,

161:8, 161:18,

161:21, 181:24,

182:3, 182:4, 182:5,

182:10, 196:9, 203:6

fences [4] - 182:17,

182:23, 183:2

fencing [1] - 182:24

few [2] - 84:11, 191:1

fifty [2] - 14:5

fifty-fifty [1] - 14:5

fight [1] - 190:11

figure [2] - 15:5, 15:15

figures [1] - 47:20

file [6] - 81:20, 83:13,

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filed [19] - 35:4, 35:7,

35:22, 42:20, 43:5,

45:23, 61:4, 61:9,

61:11, 75:16, 80:19,

85:6, 85:13, 85:17,

85:24, 86:7, 98:2,

119:15, 165:17

files [1] - 75:6

filing [1] - 5:8

fill [16] - 29:24, 30:15,

130:11, 130:18,

133:6, 134:19,

135:21, 135:23,

138:14, 138:15,

138:17, 142:5,

142:9, 142:14,

142:19

filled [3] - 61:8, 134:2,

134:3

Final [4] - 85:22, 86:8,

86:19, 86:24

financed [1] - 133:8

financially [1] - 205:17

financing [2] - 133:10,

136:8

fine [1] - 27:17

Fine [1] - 105:24

finish [5] - 86:13,

117:18, 118:19,

119:7, 119:10

finished [3] - 117:24,

123:14, 201:8

fire [2] - 20:1, 197:6

firm [1] - 173:3

First [1] - 176:17

first [27] - 5:20, 15:23,

30:5, 33:8, 37:19,

47:11, 49:21, 50:2,

57:3, 59:15, 72:2,

84:13, 90:7, 91:11,

93:7, 93:16, 93:18,

105:18, 118:2,

132:9, 133:2, 146:9,

166:9, 187:4,

189:24, 197:20

five [2] - 134:21,

200:19

five-inch [1] - 200:19

fixed [1] - 166:13

flags [1] - 150:13

flat [4] - 21:18, 22:1,

27:4, 134:24

flattened [2] - 65:15,

66:3

flood [2] - 28:23, 35:17

floodplain [1] - 134:22

floor [1] - 181:5

follow [2] - 155:21,

160:18

following [1] - 104:5

follows [1] - 5:22

foot [2] - 65:9, 111:21

footage [2] - 162:2,

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footing [1] - 100:19

force [2] - 203:18,

204:2

foregoing [2] - 205:9,

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FOREGOING [1] -

206:3

form [8] - 5:10, 38:17,

44:17, 113:22,

153:23, 159:1,

166:2, 207:9

formal [3] - 116:17,

116:23, 118:8

formed [5] - 13:15,

13:19, 13:24, 18:12,

92:23

forth [2] - 129:11,

171:16

forward [1] - 184:24

foundations [2] - 57:9,

57:12

four [9] - 55:7, 65:1,

65:2, 65:5, 65:9,

65:12, 66:1, 66:11,

204:14

four-feet [4] - 65:1,

65:2, 65:5, 66:11

four-foot [1] - 65:9

frankly [1] - 132:18

free [1] - 201:12

free-fall [1] - 201:12

freely [1] - 118:11

frequently [2] - 198:8,

198:14

friend [1] - 95:5

friendly [2] - 94:5,

95:3

friends [1] - 94:1

friendship [1] - 95:8

front [32] - 21:10, 38:3,

38:8, 38:10, 38:15,

38:21, 41:5, 41:11,

41:13, 44:21, 45:11,

45:13, 69:3, 69:15,

69:18, 70:11, 72:11,

81:9, 81:19, 88:21,

89:16, 133:12,

137:13, 137:17,

140:14, 151:4,

167:4, 167:8,

167:21, 177:1,

180:5, 201:9

fruition [1] - 199:23

full [4] - 6:5, 9:11,

9:19, 123:11

full-time [1] - 9:19

function [2] - 201:1,

201:11

funds [1] - 119:13

Furtado [31] - 91:19,

91:20, 92:8, 92:13,

92:16, 93:8, 93:9,

93:10, 93:13, 93:15,

93:19, 93:21, 94:1,

94:4, 94:13, 94:19,

95:1, 95:2, 183:14,

183:17, 183:18,

183:19, 184:15,

184:17, 185:2,

185:4, 185:13,

185:17, 185:20,

186:10, 188:6

furthermore [2] - 5:9,

205:15

G

gain [1] - 196:5

garbage [1] - 20:10

gate [1] - 123:12

Gay [4] - 186:19,

186:21, 187:7, 187:9

geared [1] - 120:4

general [4] - 11:3,

28:7, 62:13, 192:16

generate [1] - 157:22

gift [3] - 16:19, 16:20,

16:23

Gilmore [1] - 79:7

Given [1] - 170:21

given [7] - 107:8,

107:14, 109:8,

122:2, 171:4,

180:10, 181:20

goal [2] - 44:14,

123:12

governing [2] - 62:13,

207:5

governmental [3] -

75:16, 76:12, 80:24

grab [1] - 36:20

grade [7] - 49:13, 56:4,

134:15, 134:16,

137:9, 137:22,

143:17

graded [5] - 135:7,

135:11, 135:24,

172:1, 174:14

gradual [2] - 138:24,

142:3

graduate [1] - 7:3

graduation [1] - 8:8

grant [1] - 167:13

granted [9] - 40:7,

44:13, 45:21, 83:17,

124:11, 135:7,

167:12, 167:14,

169:20

grass [3] - 151:14,

160:22, 160:23

grassy [1] - 130:6

gravel [14] - 23:17,

55:12, 55:13, 56:5,

56:6, 56:7, 56:10,

56:16, 56:18, 57:3,

57:17, 162:6, 188:4,

196:6

great [2] - 195:10,

200:2

greater [1] - 156:2

Green [13] - 2:6, 3:12,

3:15, 3:17, 18:24,

23:24, 24:12, 25:8,

33:4, 33:13, 33:24,

37:1, 37:5

ground [4] - 66:2,

104:17, 166:13,

200:19

group [2] - 42:18, 89:9

growing [2] - 57:21,

116:7

growth [1] - 138:4

guarantee [1] - 203:3

guard [3] - 163:22,

163:24, 164:1

guess [13] - 9:15,

16:3, 18:5, 32:9,

40:21, 52:9, 58:22,

70:6, 76:24, 88:19,

119:13, 141:13,

144:11

guessing [1] - 119:2

guest [4] - 122:20,

128:1, 162:5, 196:12

gutters [1] - 200:18

guy [2] - 71:3, 94:20

guys [1] - 127:5

H

habitable [1] - 165:24

habited [1] - 159:8

half [4] - 51:19, 63:10,

122:14, 157:6

Hall [2] - 174:8, 186:16

hall [6] - 174:12,

174:20, 175:8,

175:12, 175:17,

179:17

Hall's [1] - 186:17

hall's [1] - 174:9

halt [1] - 138:18

hand [3] - 68:3,

131:13, 205:19

handed [1] - 109:22

handing [1] - 199:7

handle [1] - 102:16

hands [1] - 23:2

handwritten [1] -

33:16

hang [1] - 80:21

hanging [1] - 133:24

happy [7] - 25:1,

47:21, 79:21, 114:6,

129:14, 145:17,

170:15

hard [1] - 28:13

hardly [1] - 157:18

haunt [1] - 140:17

head [3] - 20:14,

58:15, 175:23

headed [1] - 200:16

Health [1] - 78:8

hear [1] - 128:6

heard [2] - 75:22,

128:8

hearing [1] - 58:23

heck [1] - 150:5

height [11] - 65:3,

66:8, 67:18, 104:19,

133:15, 133:21,

158:10, 163:5,

164:22, 194:14,

195:9

held [1] - 9:18

help [5] - 11:5, 83:19,

107:3, 145:11,

151:11

helpful [1] - 28:17

helping [1] - 203:3

hereby [2] - 5:4, 205:4

herein [1] - 205:5

hereto [1] - 205:17

hereunto [1] - 205:19

hesitate [1] - 160:3

high [43] - 6:23, 7:3,

8:9, 9:9, 9:12, 9:14,

14:11, 34:20, 34:24,

36:2, 41:12, 41:13,

41:15, 41:19, 41:23,

42:2, 42:21, 42:24,

43:4, 43:9, 43:12,

43:15, 45:9, 45:10,

45:16, 45:18, 65:1,

65:2, 65:5, 66:4,

66:11, 66:13, 94:22,

116:7, 140:24,

143:5, 163:3, 164:7,

169:15, 202:16,

202:22, 203:1

High [1] - 6:24

high-rise [20] - 34:20,

36:2, 41:12, 41:13,

41:15, 41:19, 41:23,

42:2, 42:21, 42:24,

43:4, 43:9, 43:12,

43:15, 45:9, 169:15,

202:16, 202:22,

203:1

high-rises [1] - 45:10

higher [2] - 133:18,

135:4

highlighted [1] - 71:6

hired [2] - 100:21,

102:16

historical [1] - 140:24

history [1] - 146:11

hold [1] - 55:8

holding [1] - 59:3

holds [1] - 179:23

honestly [3] - 16:1,

18:9, 70:8

Hope [16] - 24:18,

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39:5, 39:7, 47:1,

49:1, 49:2, 49:17,

149:9, 149:10,

149:16, 174:4,

174:5, 186:16

hope [1] - 204:8

hoped [1] - 120:1

hour [1] - 198:21

hourglass [1] - 140:6

hours [1] - 5:15

houses [1] - 137:24

Howard [1] - 150:11

HR [2] - 43:8, 43:15

hum [20] - 7:15, 9:3,

9:17, 10:16, 12:15,

19:16, 24:20, 31:23,

34:9, 45:16, 46:11,

47:14, 52:16, 55:14,

92:3, 110:13,

163:10, 181:19,

196:22, 200:14

HVAC [2] - 181:6,

181:15

hydroseeded [2] -

138:11, 138:19

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idea [10] - 12:19,

12:21, 18:2, 28:5,

28:8, 30:12, 41:12,

45:8, 112:5, 125:12

identification [16] -

5:21, 24:14, 33:14,

37:6, 39:23, 47:7,

74:12, 108:8,

110:10, 112:15,

131:16, 136:19,

189:10, 195:17,

197:14, 200:8

identify [1] - 36:3

illegally [1] - 127:24

Illegally [1] - 128:2

imagine [1] - 182:8

Impact [6] - 42:6, 42:8,

42:9, 42:17, 42:20,

146:22

impact [12] - 125:22,

144:23, 145:3,

145:20, 145:23,

146:4, 146:7, 154:5,

172:18, 174:2, 174:6

implication [3] -

152:9, 152:10,

153:20

implied [1] - 201:21

important [1] - 104:6

impossible [1] - 77:1

impression [1] - 99:24

improve [2] - 11:2,

120:5

improved [1] - 195:11

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Inc [8] - 18:12, 20:4,

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INC [1] - 1:7

inch [2] - 52:5, 200:19

include [2] - 158:17,

168:22

included [4] - 42:20,

118:23, 144:5, 167:9

including [6] - 9:12,

75:13, 80:23,

101:18, 169:14,

192:13

income [3] - 157:11,

157:22, 157:24

incorrect [1] - 136:3

increased [3] - 65:3,

66:8, 172:5

increasing [3] -

134:21, 194:14,

195:8

Index [1] - 1:2

indicate [2] - 113:17,

152:12

indicated [10] - 7:13,

31:8, 36:10, 55:10,

65:11, 125:10,

127:2, 153:3,

166:22, 177:9

indicates [3] - 34:5,

113:13, 173:20

Indicating [14] - 27:14,

28:15, 43:6, 50:4,

50:10, 53:12, 53:17,

89:11, 90:3, 92:19,

93:1, 101:14,

139:18, 140:8

indicating [4] - 38:13,

65:20, 111:11, 179:5

individual [1] - 147:7

individuals [2] - 191:9,

191:22

informal [1] - 106:24

information [6] - 77:9,

146:8, 157:10,

157:12, 157:24,

158:1

infusion [1] - 17:22

inhabited [3] - 19:13,

159:6, 166:14

initial [1] - 86:4

injunction [1] - 113:16

Injunction [10] - 4:3,

112:9, 112:15,

112:19, 112:22,

113:3, 113:18,

120:8, 120:16,

120:21

input [2] - 12:7, 13:5

Inspector [2] - 97:23,

100:24

Inspector's [1] - 102:7

installed [5] - 91:16,

178:8, 187:1,

187:19, 188:5

instituted [1] - 189:15

instruct [1] - 126:13

instructing [1] - 158:3

instructions [2] -

159:12, 207:14

integrity [3] - 183:10,

184:6, 185:3

intent [7] - 38:1, 86:13,

87:24, 166:6,

166:24, 167:1,

203:19

Intent [22] - 61:9,

61:11, 75:16, 80:6,

80:10, 80:20, 81:20,

83:14, 84:3, 84:16,

85:2, 85:6, 85:12,

85:17, 85:24, 86:4,

86:8, 86:12, 86:17,

95:16, 96:19, 119:15

intention [2] - 204:4,

204:5

intentions [1] - 46:2

Intents [2] - 61:3,

85:10

interest [2] - 15:9,

16:22

interested [2] -

190:24, 205:17

interfere [1] - 172:5

interject [1] - 189:18

interpret [1] - 41:8

interpretation [1] -

163:7

interpreted [2] -

117:13, 165:14

interpreting [1] -

147:18

invest [1] - 17:20

investor [3] - 17:10,

17:20, 17:22

involved [6] - 48:14,

73:1, 73:2, 73:3,

73:4, 197:21

involvement [2] -

14:15, 14:18

isolate [1] - 143:20

issuance [2] - 120:15,

203:15

issue [3] - 40:24,

76:24, 190:14

issued [15] - 79:2,

80:18, 85:16, 85:17,

85:18, 86:9, 86:20,

87:3, 87:4, 87:19,

95:16, 109:18,

112:9, 112:19,

112:22

itself [3] - 40:23,

113:24, 190:1

J

Jackie [6] - 3:24,

106:5, 107:13,

107:23, 108:4, 108:7

jagged [1] - 81:18

James [5] - 93:9,

93:10, 93:13, 93:15,

183:18

Jim [4] - 174:8,

186:10, 186:16,

186:17

Joe [1] - 106:5

John [24] - 3:15, 3:24,

10:21, 12:9, 13:20,

13:24, 14:23, 14:24,

15:3, 15:8, 18:18,

20:2, 32:21, 32:23,

33:4, 33:13, 33:24,

37:19, 44:10, 108:3,

108:7, 108:15,

148:7, 148:13

Joseph [1] - 6:24

Jr [2] - 3:22, 74:10

Judge [2] - 84:8,

120:13

July [4] - 3:17, 37:2,

37:6, 205:24

K

keep [3] - 112:7,

115:11, 196:12

Keith [32] - 29:1, 29:3,

29:20, 32:6, 32:21,

32:23, 44:10, 44:13,

44:14, 45:14, 51:20,

56:24, 57:7, 63:22,

64:3, 64:5, 64:17,

64:23, 65:6, 65:8,

65:15, 66:7, 66:13,

67:1, 67:6, 67:12,

67:17, 67:20, 68:13,

68:17, 68:24, 142:14

Kelly [2] - 18:24, 33:3

kept [3] - 109:4,

109:15, 116:8

kid [3] - 132:2, 133:16,

133:24

kind [3] - 22:16, 62:13,

109:19

King [5] - 90:17,

160:13, 161:13,

161:15, 196:7

Kingman [7] - 172:24,

173:4, 173:8,

173:10, 173:23,

173:24, 184:9

Kingman's [1] -

173:14

knowledge [18] -

14:19, 41:9, 46:18,

99:3, 99:14, 113:5,

115:19, 123:11,

152:19, 175:19,

177:5, 177:6, 186:8,

190:8, 190:19,

190:20, 190:21,

206:7

known [5] - 25:7,

25:19, 26:15, 41:16,

93:15

knows [2] - 56:11,

148:3

L

label [5] - 51:2, 68:16,

70:17, 72:10, 91:11

labelled [4] - 43:7,

60:12, 64:16, 71:7

lack [1] - 202:17

LAG [1] - 134:15

laid [1] - 46:8

LAND [1] - 1:3

Land [13] - 3:12, 3:16,

23:23, 24:11, 36:24,

37:5, 112:9, 112:19,

112:22, 113:11,

120:21, 121:15,

122:3

land [39] - 18:18,

19:11, 19:14, 19:15,

19:18, 20:19, 21:14,

21:17, 22:22, 25:7,

25:15, 25:23, 26:11,

26:15, 27:3, 27:4,

34:1, 37:15, 43:14,

44:1, 61:8, 123:16,

124:10, 127:22,

135:5, 140:6,

150:16, 153:6,

154:2, 154:7,

160:16, 161:10,

162:16, 162:21,

163:2, 178:16, 197:7

Landing [118] - 3:20,

3:20, 4:2, 4:8, 30:19,

34:22, 37:15, 46:24,

47:7, 51:12, 51:23,

53:2, 53:10, 60:2,

82:8, 84:4, 84:9,

87:2, 90:15, 102:21,

103:12, 105:6,

107:8, 107:24,

110:1, 110:6, 110:9,

110:16, 110:20,

113:14, 113:18,

114:19, 114:22,

114:24, 115:5,

116:11, 116:12,

116:19, 117:1,

117:8, 122:20,

123:7, 124:6, 124:8,

124:12, 124:22,

125:2, 125:18,

125:19, 129:20,

LINDA M. THOMAS COURT REPORTING

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134:5, 134:20,

135:8, 135:15,

150:21, 151:5,

151:21, 152:5,

152:13, 152:23,

153:4, 153:15,

153:16, 153:21,

154:2, 154:12,

154:15, 154:16,

155:12, 156:12,

156:16, 156:22,

160:17, 161:9,

161:10, 161:15,

164:14, 165:7,

166:18, 167:14,

168:23, 169:21,

171:3, 172:1,

172:19, 173:21,

177:20, 178:5,

178:8, 178:10,

178:14, 180:10,

180:24, 181:21,

182:6, 182:13,

188:11, 189:20,

190:17, 191:11,

192:20, 194:7,

194:16, 195:9,

195:16, 196:10,

196:15, 197:5,

198:6, 198:9, 199:3,

199:17, 201:17

LANDING [1] - 1:5

landing [1] - 52:11

Landing's [8] -

151:17, 160:10,

172:9, 174:2, 176:1,

181:24, 184:14,

187:2

lands [1] - 163:21

landscape [1] - 195:11

lane [1] - 196:11

language [1] - 152:11

large [1] - 131:13

last [21] - 16:8, 58:2,

58:4, 77:24, 79:7,

79:9, 91:4, 103:6,

103:10, 103:13,

103:15, 117:24,

136:10, 149:13,

175:5, 189:16,

190:9, 190:11,

198:23, 199:14,

203:19

late [7] - 70:2, 99:1,

122:11, 133:11,

135:17, 135:19,

138:19

launched [1] - 104:8

LAW [1] - 2:2

law [1] - 148:2

Law [1] - 84:8

lawn [2] - 134:15,

151:14

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lawyer [2] - 74:18,

76:19

lawyers [1] - 115:22

lead [1] - 187:10

leading [1] - 138:24

learned [1] - 100:3

least [5] - 26:4, 63:16,

86:21, 125:22, 204:4

leave [1] - 196:11

left [3] - 41:12, 57:6,

131:13

left-hand [1] - 131:13

legal [3] - 13:3, 190:3,

190:11

legally [1] - 127:22

length [1] - 170:22

Leo [2] - 18:23, 33:3

less [6] - 11:9, 11:11,

52:8, 100:1, 100:17

letter [29] - 3:21, 74:9,

107:16, 107:18,

107:19, 108:11,

108:14, 108:18,

108:21, 108:24,

109:13, 109:24,

111:5, 116:23,

147:9, 147:21,

188:7, 188:11,

188:14, 188:20,

188:24, 189:2,

189:13, 189:24,

194:20, 194:24,

195:7

Letter [8] - 3:24, 4:1,

4:6, 4:8, 108:6,

110:8, 189:8, 195:15

level [10] - 34:14,

47:16, 48:15, 61:18,

96:16, 96:20, 96:23,

104:17, 158:11,

165:19

levelled [1] - 66:16

License [2] - 61:7,

61:15

license [1] - 61:9

Licensing [1] - 78:8

lies [2] - 11:19, 11:20

Light [122] - 4:8, 8:22,

9:10, 9:12, 9:16,

9:18, 9:24, 10:4,

10:9, 10:12, 10:13,

10:24, 11:7, 11:8,

11:16, 11:21, 12:2,

12:9, 12:13, 13:8,

13:14, 13:19, 13:23,

14:7, 14:15, 14:22,

15:9, 15:17, 15:23,

16:14, 16:22, 17:3,

17:7, 17:10, 17:13,

17:18, 18:12, 19:10,

20:4, 37:20, 48:19,

49:3, 49:24, 50:3,

51:10, 51:12, 55:4,

57:14, 57:23, 60:17,

62:18, 63:9, 64:1,

65:5, 65:12, 65:22,

67:3, 69:7, 71:4,

72:16, 72:22, 73:5,

73:17, 75:18, 77:17,

77:21, 78:15, 80:13,

80:19, 82:15, 82:24,

84:16, 85:1, 86:20,

87:7, 90:13, 96:11,

98:10, 98:21, 99:7,

99:16, 100:12,

100:22, 101:24,

102:21, 109:4,

109:14, 109:15,

111:4, 111:15,

111:17, 114:18,

114:24, 115:4,

120:9, 120:19,

121:12, 122:5,

122:18, 122:24,

123:3, 123:6, 123:9,

124:3, 124:4, 124:9,

124:21, 157:21,

160:14, 160:21,

160:23, 162:19,

162:22, 164:10,

177:20, 180:9,

180:23, 182:20,

195:16, 196:7,

202:6, 202:12

LIGHT [1] - 1:7

lighting [1] - 20:1

lights [4] - 104:12,

104:13, 104:14,

104:15

limited [2] - 75:14,

156:6

LINDA [3] - 1:21,

205:2, 205:22

Linda [1] - 1:13

line [21] - 25:11, 25:12,

31:6, 68:20, 69:10,

78:21, 78:23, 86:16,

89:20, 113:17,

121:20, 135:1,

135:13, 140:22,

156:9, 168:5,

171:13, 171:15,

171:18, 194:10,

203:5

LINE [1] - 207:16

lines [1] - 176:8

list [1] - 175:14

listen [1] - 124:16

literally [2] - 21:10,

22:3

litigating [1] - 115:23

litigation [4] - 73:2,

73:6, 138:20, 159:21

live [1] - 190:22

lived [1] - 21:4

living [2] - 19:24,

189:20

local [5] - 61:18,

79:10, 96:16, 96:20,

96:23

local-level [1] - 61:18

locally [2] - 87:3, 96:5

locally-issued [1] -

87:3

locate [1] - 25:22

located [27] - 7:1,

18:19, 21:8, 24:19,

26:5, 26:15, 27:11,

27:16, 29:17, 31:19,

43:4, 48:21, 52:18,

53:2, 54:15, 62:18,

63:6, 70:10, 71:12,

133:14, 149:2,

163:18, 163:23,

171:12, 171:21,

182:7

location [4] - 24:21,

25:4, 39:1, 54:16

locations [1] - 150:14

long-term [1] - 123:12

look [21] - 26:8, 34:4,

36:7, 54:17, 58:13,

69:23, 71:16, 74:15,

80:11, 90:8, 104:3,

104:5, 125:14,

138:10, 139:10,

139:21, 140:2,

140:17, 155:11,

194:23, 199:6

looked [16] - 20:24,

27:3, 31:2, 36:7,

58:2, 81:2, 128:23,

130:7, 130:20,

131:9, 131:22,

132:5, 139:17,

141:12, 165:13,

187:21

looking [16] - 17:19,

17:21, 24:16, 24:17,

27:1, 37:13, 37:24,

43:1, 47:20, 52:21,

78:12, 80:18,

113:12, 143:6,

167:20

looks [3] - 21:18,

110:19, 110:20

loss [1] - 132:18

low [3] - 34:23, 45:9,

132:12

low-rise [1] - 45:9

lower [10] - 34:21,

41:13, 55:9, 66:10,

93:4, 131:13,

133:18, 133:19,

141:9, 185:23

lthomascourtrep@

comcast.net [1] -

1:24

lunch [1] - 94:6

Luncheon [1] - 128:21

LUND [5] - 1:10, 5:20,

205:6, 206:6, 206:10

Lund [32] - 3:3, 3:15,

3:24, 4:2, 4:7, 5:12,

5:15, 6:6, 10:21,

12:9, 13:20, 13:24,

18:18, 20:2, 33:4,

33:13, 34:1, 37:19,

75:20, 80:10, 108:4,

108:7, 108:15,

110:9, 128:23,

148:7, 148:13,

189:9, 194:6,

195:20, 197:17,

201:16

Lund's [1] - 59:4

M

MA [1] - 47:1

mail [1] - 1:24

main [4] - 31:6, 31:15,

31:17

maintain [5] - 11:2,

167:9, 170:3, 170:5,

170:7

maintains [1] - 165:17

maintenance [1] -

169:17

Managers [2] - 194:8,

194:21

manner [2] - 171:3,

196:10

manufacturer [1] -

187:21

map [1] - 26:8

Marcel [7] - 103:18,

118:16, 119:6,

119:21, 191:8,

193:14, 193:18

March [6] - 4:10, 4:11,

197:1, 197:13,

199:15, 200:8

MARINA [1] - 1:7

Marina [120] - 4:9,

8:22, 9:12, 9:16,

9:19, 10:1, 10:4,

10:9, 10:12, 10:14,

10:24, 11:16, 11:22,

12:2, 12:9, 12:13,

13:8, 13:15, 13:19,

13:23, 14:7, 14:15,

15:9, 15:17, 15:24,

16:14, 16:22, 17:3,

17:7, 17:10, 17:13,

17:18, 18:12, 19:10,

20:4, 37:20, 48:19,

49:3, 49:24, 50:3,

51:10, 51:12, 55:4,

57:14, 57:24, 60:17,

62:18, 63:9, 64:2,

65:5, 65:12, 65:22,

67:3, 69:7, 71:4,

72:16, 72:23, 73:5,

73:17, 75:18, 77:17,

77:21, 78:15, 80:13,

LINDA M. THOMAS COURT REPORTING

1280:19, 82:15, 83:1,

84:16, 85:2, 86:20,

87:7, 90:13, 96:11,

98:10, 98:21, 99:7,

99:16, 100:12,

100:22, 102:1,

102:21, 109:4,

109:14, 109:16,

111:5, 111:16,

111:17, 114:18,

114:24, 115:4,

120:9, 120:19,

121:12, 122:5,

122:18, 122:24,

123:3, 123:6, 123:9,

124:3, 124:4, 124:9,

124:21, 157:21,

160:14, 160:21,

160:23, 162:19,

162:22, 164:11,

180:10, 180:24,

182:20, 195:9,

195:17, 196:21,

197:3, 197:4, 202:6,

202:12

marina [56] - 12:14,

18:12, 18:19, 20:20,

30:8, 30:23, 31:1,

34:1, 36:2, 38:20,

41:11, 42:23, 45:10,

49:13, 49:20, 53:22,

94:9, 101:12, 111:1,

113:8, 114:4,

114:11, 124:11,

130:23, 131:8,

133:8, 133:24,

135:16, 135:19,

137:1, 138:13,

148:21, 155:13,

156:22, 167:5,

167:6, 167:9,

167:10, 169:18,

173:5, 181:20,

183:23, 184:18,

184:19, 190:16,

192:21, 196:5,

196:17, 197:6,

197:7, 197:8,

198:15, 201:12,

203:2, 203:8

marina's [4] - 48:22,

53:11, 160:20, 182:1

Maritime [4] - 6:21,

7:6, 7:9, 8:13

MARK [1] - 207:10

mark [18] - 23:22,

33:2, 36:22, 39:18,

46:22, 69:1, 74:2,

108:2, 110:4,

112:11, 131:10,

136:11, 136:15,

141:1, 161:4, 161:5,

161:8, 189:5

marked [31] - 24:13,

33:14, 37:6, 37:10,

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37:24, 39:23, 40:4,

47:7, 47:11, 47:24,

63:17, 74:11, 74:21,

108:7, 108:10,

110:10, 112:15,

112:18, 131:16,

131:19, 136:15,

136:19, 136:22,

170:13, 189:9,

195:12, 195:17,

197:10, 197:14,

200:5, 200:8

markers [2] - 149:22,

149:23

market [3] - 43:13,

200:2, 204:12

marketing [1] - 204:9

marking [1] - 64:22

marks [2] - 150:14,

179:17

married [1] - 6:11

Mass [8] - 6:8, 6:21,

7:2, 7:6, 7:9, 7:14,

8:12

MASSACHUSETTS [3]

- 1:2, 205:1, 205:4

Massachusetts [17] -

1:11, 1:15, 1:16,

1:23, 2:3, 2:7, 3:12,

3:17, 7:17, 8:5,

23:24, 24:12, 37:1,

37:5, 162:15, 163:1,

163:20

masts [1] - 158:17

match [1] - 196:10

matched [1] - 66:14

mater [1] - 148:3

material [1] - 70:19

matter [1] - 105:15

matters [1] - 205:7

maximum [1] - 179:3

mean [58] - 10:17,

28:21, 30:12, 32:8,

36:7, 42:9, 46:6,

47:16, 48:10, 48:15,

49:16, 54:19, 56:22,

65:10, 71:24, 74:18,

76:14, 76:23, 77:19,

80:15, 88:19, 94:20,

94:21, 96:4, 103:10,

106:4, 106:12,

109:2, 110:2, 115:2,

121:20, 121:21,

129:6, 132:11,

135:4, 137:15,

138:10, 139:2,

139:6, 139:22,

140:21, 140:24,

142:20, 143:5,

144:9, 158:11,

158:15, 158:16,

161:1, 163:3, 164:7,

165:19, 167:2,

169:5, 172:21,

200:15, 200:16

meaning [3] - 72:16,

98:10, 152:13

MEANS [1] - 206:4

meant [3] - 200:17,

202:12, 202:15

meet [1] - 93:18

meeting [1] - 118:8

meetings [2] - 115:13,

115:15

member [4] - 61:22,

61:24, 117:1, 152:11

members [13] - 107:1,

115:9, 115:12,

116:15, 116:22,

118:7, 151:23,

152:4, 190:17,

191:1, 191:10,

198:5, 198:8

Memorandum [2] -

169:2, 178:14

memory [17] - 26:19,

27:3, 29:11, 35:17,

45:3, 45:4, 45:6,

49:9, 55:16, 57:2,

57:17, 57:20, 77:20,

79:7, 85:11, 87:15,

132:6

mentioned [3] - 74:19,

191:2, 191:6

MEPA [20] - 42:1,

42:12, 146:13,

146:16, 146:18,

146:21, 146:23,

146:24, 147:5,

147:9, 147:13,

147:17, 147:19,

147:21, 148:4,

148:12, 148:15

Merit [2] - 1:14, 1:22

met [2] - 93:16, 106:3

metal [3] - 182:17,

182:23

Michael [2] - 3:3, 6:6

MICHAEL [5] - 1:10,

5:20, 205:5, 206:6,

206:10

Michaels [12] - 14:23,

14:24, 15:3, 15:8,

17:5, 17:6, 17:7,

17:9, 17:12, 17:18,

18:4, 18:7

MICHAELS [1] - 15:1

mid [3] - 139:14,

142:23, 173:9

middle [10] - 22:7,

22:16, 24:17, 31:4,

65:14, 66:3, 66:4,

66:6, 139:17, 171:20

might [3] - 98:2, 99:17,

164:6

Mike [2] - 4:7, 189:9

mile [1] - 63:10

mind [3] - 41:1,

168:18, 191:11

mine [2] - 12:11, 94:14

minimal [2] - 127:16,

154:5

minimum [1] - 179:4

minus [1] - 20:4

minute [2] - 107:20,

176:16

Minutes [4] - 4:10,

196:15, 196:24,

197:14

Mirafi [6] - 186:18,

187:1, 187:11,

187:13, 187:16,

188:2

misunderstood [1] -

187:12

MIT [3] - 8:20, 9:4

modified [1] - 113:3

modify [2] - 113:15,

113:19

money [4] - 16:18,

115:23, 190:10,

202:13

months [1] - 9:7

morning [1] - 6:4

most [7] - 12:4, 96:4,

97:9, 127:16,

182:11, 183:7,

198:21

most-recently [1] -

183:7

mother [1] - 15:20

mother's [1] - 17:4

motions [1] - 5:10

Mount [16] - 24:18,

34:18, 38:16, 39:1,

39:5, 39:7, 47:1,

49:1, 49:2, 49:16,

149:9, 149:10,

149:15, 174:4,

174:5, 186:16

move [2] - 18:15,

160:4

moved [2] - 58:7,

138:16

MR [205] - 5:12, 5:17,

5:18, 6:3, 13:21,

13:22, 19:4, 19:6,

23:22, 24:3, 24:4,

24:5, 24:7, 24:9,

24:15, 24:23, 25:1,

25:3, 26:21, 26:24,

32:12, 32:16, 33:2,

33:7, 33:16, 33:18,

33:20, 33:21, 33:22,

36:19, 36:22, 37:8,

38:17, 38:22, 39:4,

39:10, 39:18, 40:2,

44:4, 44:7, 44:17,

44:22, 46:20, 46:22,

47:2, 47:3, 47:4,

47:9, 47:18, 47:21,

47:23, 48:6, 48:8,

48:12, 56:7, 56:9,

56:10, 56:12, 56:14,

58:16, 58:21, 59:2,

59:6, 59:7, 60:3,

60:4, 74:2, 74:14,

74:20, 74:23, 75:1,

75:3, 75:10, 75:11,

76:23, 77:3, 77:14,

79:19, 79:21, 79:24,

80:2, 80:8, 80:9,

106:14, 106:16,

106:19, 107:4,

107:5, 107:7,

107:20, 107:21,

107:22, 108:2,

108:9, 109:7, 109:9,

109:12, 110:4,

110:11, 112:11,

112:17, 113:22,

114:1, 114:8,

120:12, 120:17,

120:23, 121:1,

121:4, 121:7, 121:9,

122:7, 122:9,

122:16, 123:20,

126:12, 126:15,

126:19, 128:19,

128:22, 129:10,

129:17, 131:5,

131:7, 131:12,

131:18, 134:14,

134:17, 136:11,

136:12, 136:14,

136:21, 140:19,

141:6, 143:18,

143:19, 143:24,

144:3, 145:11,

145:15, 145:17,

145:18, 145:22,

146:1, 146:2,

146:23, 147:1,

153:23, 154:6,

157:9, 157:14,

157:19, 158:2,

158:5, 158:6, 158:7,

159:1, 159:14,

159:16, 159:18,

159:20, 161:13,

161:16, 161:17,

164:2, 164:4, 164:9,

166:2, 166:8, 169:8,

169:13, 170:12,

170:14, 170:20,

175:13, 175:15,

175:16, 175:20,

175:21, 175:22,

175:23, 175:24,

176:4, 176:5,

176:11, 176:15,

176:16, 177:2,

189:5, 189:12,

189:18, 189:23,

193:24, 194:2,

194:5, 195:12,

195:19, 197:10,

LINDA M. THOMAS COURT REPORTING

13197:16, 200:4,

200:10, 201:23,

202:3, 204:17,

204:19

MSL [5] - 158:13,

158:24, 160:1,

162:7, 163:9

multiple [6] - 49:4,

110:2, 116:21,

123:19, 149:17,

192:22

must [2] - 61:9, 125:12

mutually [2] - 113:8,

122:13

N

name [15] - 6:5, 6:13,

18:10, 54:3, 62:8,

71:2, 71:3, 93:12,

148:24, 150:5,

150:8, 150:9,

160:20, 173:2

namely [1] - 205:5

narrow [1] - 140:6

narrowed [2] - 162:1,

162:4

natural [4] - 82:20,

82:21, 167:6, 174:14

natural-occurring [2] -

82:20, 82:21

nature [2] - 76:8,

130:22

near [22] - 21:18,

22:10, 52:18, 54:15,

54:19, 55:3, 59:24,

60:14, 63:19, 71:13,

78:14, 79:16, 90:2,

91:2, 91:23, 111:12,

111:13, 119:4,

122:17, 164:13,

168:5, 202:20

necessary [2] -

124:10, 155:8

need [10] - 36:20,

52:9, 100:2, 100:18,

114:1, 123:22,

127:15, 142:16,

145:9, 157:12

needed [4] - 29:24,

99:20, 100:8, 156:20

needs [1] - 167:5

negotiate [1] - 199:2

negotiated [1] -

199:17

neighbors [1] - 122:15

never [13] - 43:10,

43:12, 114:10,

116:17, 118:8,

175:6, 175:7,

199:23, 201:16,

203:7, 203:9,

203:11, 203:12

new [2] - 16:6, 103:5

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newsletter [4] -

123:18, 123:19,

125:23, 127:20

next [32] - 7:10, 7:18,

26:7, 26:16, 36:23,

39:18, 51:15, 54:7,

59:21, 59:23, 60:14,

63:18, 63:23, 67:21,

68:19, 69:9, 69:24,

70:10, 71:9, 81:8,

84:11, 88:13, 89:9,

89:10, 89:22,

105:13, 106:9,

106:11, 106:12,

106:14, 143:6, 189:6

nice [2] - 104:3, 116:9

nine [1] - 106:9

ninety [1] - 7:5

ninety-one [1] - 7:5

NO [2] - 1:3, 3:10

nobody [5] - 113:10,

145:4, 145:5, 145:7,

172:14

none [1] - 17:8

nonetheless [1] -

122:22

nonexclusive [3] -

170:1, 170:12, 172:4

north [3] - 21:6, 27:5,

27:6

northerly [19] - 22:9,

22:13, 22:15, 31:20,

51:23, 52:11, 54:7,

59:14, 64:2, 64:18,

65:20, 66:21, 93:2,

121:21, 139:15,

141:20, 141:24,

161:8, 202:23

NOT [2] - 206:3,

207:10

notably [1] - 195:11

Notarial [1] - 205:20

notary [1] - 5:14

Notary [3] - 1:13, 5:7,

205:3

NOTARY [2] - 205:23,

206:17

notations [2] - 33:17,

47:19

note [1] - 158:6

NOTE [1] - 206:2

notes [1] - 205:11

nothing [7] - 18:5,

22:19, 23:14, 70:4,

192:9, 204:17, 205:7

Notice [24] - 1:11,

61:9, 61:11, 75:15,

80:6, 80:10, 80:20,

81:20, 83:14, 84:3,

84:16, 85:2, 85:6,

85:9, 85:12, 85:17,

85:23, 86:4, 86:7,

86:12, 86:17, 95:16,

96:19, 119:15

notice [1] - 86:15

Notices [1] - 61:3

November [3] - 3:13,

24:1, 24:13

Nuclear [1] - 8:17

number [4] - 6:9, 26:9,

140:12, 157:11

numbers [4] - 52:23,

53:5, 140:13, 140:15

numerous [1] - 191:17

nylon [1] - 164:17

O

oath [1] - 5:21

object [6] - 38:17,

113:22, 153:23,

157:9, 157:17, 159:1

objection [5] - 44:17,

157:11, 158:2,

158:6, 166:2

objections [1] - 5:10

obligation [1] - 157:15

observe [4] - 177:6,

198:1, 198:8, 198:20

observing [3] - 198:6,

198:9, 198:14

obstruct [2] - 166:17

obtain [8] - 72:14,

76:1, 78:15, 80:24,

96:22, 101:24,

102:1, 182:22

obtained [7] - 60:18,

61:1, 71:4, 79:17,

87:7, 108:24, 109:3

obviously [5] - 24:18,

94:21, 130:15,

130:20, 132:14

occasions [1] - 192:22

occur [6] - 103:9,

103:19, 118:3,

192:18, 204:7,

204:13

occurred [10] - 32:5,

32:23, 46:15, 49:20,

130:23, 143:3,

143:10, 150:20,

191:24, 204:15

occurring [2] - 82:20,

82:21

October [16] - 1:17,

3:24, 4:1, 4:6, 4:8,

108:7, 109:24,

110:5, 110:9, 111:4,

114:21, 189:9,

194:20, 195:2,

195:16, 205:20

OF [9] - 1:2, 1:10, 2:2,

205:1, 205:1, 205:4,

206:3, 206:3, 206:4

off-season [1] -

155:14

Off-the-record [3] -

26:23, 46:21, 107:6

offer [3] - 110:19,

110:20, 110:24

offering [1] - 105:21

OFFICE [1] - 2:2

office [6] - 58:7, 58:8,

76:15, 76:19, 77:5,

192:21

Office [1] - 102:7

officers [1] - 13:18

offices [1] - 1:15

officially [1] - 106:23

offsite [1] - 142:19

old [9] - 13:12, 19:7,

20:10, 69:24, 76:7,

125:7, 129:15,

130:8, 193:12

once [17] - 22:10,

29:12, 41:7, 52:21,

53:18, 54:2, 55:2,

78:12, 80:17, 89:12,

90:1, 91:12, 104:24,

163:15, 164:10,

198:18

One [1] - 2:6

one [90] - 7:5, 9:2, 9:6,

13:21, 14:4, 25:19,

26:22, 31:21, 34:19,

35:9, 36:20, 43:2,

45:11, 50:5, 50:16,

52:5, 56:3, 58:5,

61:19, 63:22, 63:23,

72:1, 73:24, 74:16,

77:5, 80:6, 82:3,

82:5, 82:6, 82:7,

82:8, 84:23, 85:6,

90:12, 91:1, 91:23,

95:18, 97:9, 99:17,

100:4, 100:20,

100:21, 104:19,

105:14, 107:4,

112:1, 116:7,

118:15, 121:23,

124:15, 126:1,

128:19, 132:3,

132:7, 132:10,

133:4, 133:9, 136:3,

136:4, 139:23,

140:5, 141:17,

141:19, 141:21,

141:24, 142:23,

142:24, 143:2,

145:15, 148:22,

150:4, 150:6, 167:3,

169:8, 191:6

one-to-one [13] - 56:3,

116:7, 132:7, 133:4,

139:23, 140:5,

141:17, 141:19,

141:21, 141:24,

142:23, 142:24,

143:2

ones [4] - 63:23,

129:12, 129:13,

184:1

ongoing [1] - 138:20

open [2] - 57:6, 112:6

open-face [1] - 112:6

opened [1] - 30:23

opening [1] - 125:21

operation [1] - 198:5

operations [4] - 11:4,

167:6, 167:10,

198:15

opinion [12] - 147:20,

173:10, 173:14,

174:9, 174:12,

174:23, 174:24,

175:3, 186:17,

190:6, 190:7, 190:8

opportunity [3] - 5:15,

198:1, 199:2

opposed [3] - 40:12,

93:11, 166:15

opposite [1] - 87:2

oral [3] - 109:23,

114:23, 116:24

order [16] - 20:19,

35:18, 44:14, 61:8,

80:18, 81:22, 81:23,

84:1, 84:10, 85:16,

85:18, 85:23, 87:24,

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75:15, 78:22, 78:23,

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Ordinance [1] - 183:3

organized [1] - 81:3

Original [2] - 4:4,

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original [15] - 32:1,

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35:9, 35:11, 35:21,

35:22, 42:10, 42:19,

61:6, 143:15,

143:16, 146:21,

205:10

originally [5] - 31:12,

34:22, 44:13, 56:5,

134:18

Originally [1] - 133:8

originals [1] - 136:13

otherwise [1] - 123:23

outside [7] - 13:4,

32:3, 62:19, 138:17,

146:5, 179:11,

184:20

overall [1] - 62:13

overgrown [1] - 90:9

oversee [1] - 11:3

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owned [4] - 18:8,

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owner [2] - 17:3, 18:8

owners [10] - 4:7,

13:23, 188:8,

188:11, 188:13,

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ownership [2] - 14:3,

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owns [1] - 154:2

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P.O [1] - 2:6

page [7] - 24:5, 24:8,

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Page [1] - 33:6

PAGE [2] - 3:10,

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Pages [1] - 1:1

paper [1] - 123:15

paperwork [1] - 10:18

paragraph [2] - 190:1,

196:20

parallel [1] - 167:21

parameters [2] -

95:20, 185:22

parcel [5] - 19:10,

20:3, 26:8, 26:15,

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parties [11] - 5:5, 80:4,

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partners [1] - 14:8

party [1] - 203:13

patio [6] - 178:21,

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patios [1] - 179:21

pattern [1] - 171:17

Paul [10] - 103:18,

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pay [3] - 16:18,

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pen [4] - 27:9, 50:6,

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pens [1] - 51:16

people [14] - 19:21,

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people's [1] - 157:15

percent [2] - 15:4,

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percentage [5] - 14:3,

15:2, 15:11, 15:19,

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perforated [1] - 200:20

perform [13] - 75:17,

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performed [39] - 18:7,

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122:23, 123:3,

124:3, 124:20,

131:3, 143:12,

144:8, 144:18,

144:19, 150:19,

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performing [3] -

84:13, 144:4, 149:4

period [15] - 10:19,

49:22, 66:2, 75:19,

92:15, 106:9,

115:13, 130:2,

133:22, 135:17,

137:6, 170:24,

181:16, 182:8,

197:18

permanent [1] -

164:20

permanently [2] -

159:5, 166:13

permission [40] - 67:2,

69:6, 107:14, 115:5,

116:12, 116:24,

117:5, 117:7,

117:13, 119:22,

125:19, 126:3,

126:17, 126:22,

127:2, 152:5,

152:20, 152:22,

153:4, 153:14,

153:21, 154:16,

154:20, 154:24,

156:13, 156:17,

178:2, 178:4,

178:10, 180:10,

180:24, 181:20,

190:17, 191:12,

191:21, 192:19,

193:1, 193:16,

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Permit [17] - 98:2,

98:11, 98:18, 98:22,

99:8, 99:10, 99:15,

99:20, 100:2, 100:8,

100:18, 101:7,

102:1, 102:4,

182:22, 183:4,

203:16

Permits [6] - 75:15,

78:15, 97:3, 97:12,

97:16, 100:13

permits [9] - 60:18,

60:24, 71:5, 72:14,

73:11, 73:18, 77:16,

92:8, 92:9

permitting [1] - 148:22

person [3] - 73:1,

73:5, 191:7

personal [3] - 159:6,

166:15, 188:17

personally [2] - 81:1,

98:20

pertaining [1] - 111:16

petitioned [1] - 159:11

phases [1] - 84:11

Phillip [5] - 90:17,

160:13, 161:13,

161:15, 196:7

photocopies [4] - 4:5,

77:9, 136:15, 136:18

photograph [11] - 4:4,

129:18, 129:21,

130:2, 130:5,

131:10, 131:16,

131:19, 132:1,

133:15, 137:8

photographs [17] -

57:22, 58:3, 58:9,

58:23, 128:24,

129:3, 129:10,

130:14, 130:15,

131:1, 131:2,

136:23, 137:2,

142:4, 143:1

photos [15] - 4:5,

54:17, 58:14, 58:17,

58:19, 69:24, 76:8,

125:8, 125:14,

129:14, 130:13,

136:7, 136:12,

136:15, 136:19

phrase [1] - 185:11

physical [2] - 11:9,

11:12

pick [1] - 131:24

picture [2] - 13:1,

139:21

pictures [1] - 88:20

piece [4] - 70:1, 70:10,

128:4, 135:5

pieces [3] - 70:5, 77:8,

94:16

pier [1] - 164:7

Pier [7] - 62:7, 62:14,

62:23, 63:1, 63:2,

63:3, 63:5

piers [1] - 36:8

pile [7] - 59:22, 69:16,

70:21, 81:13, 81:14,

81:17, 136:13

piled [1] - 136:9

piling [1] - 59:11

pilings [2] - 138:1,

141:10

pin [1] - 190:13

pink [9] - 27:24, 68:12,

71:22, 72:12, 78:14,

79:16, 88:17, 111:12

pipe [3] - 171:10,

171:21, 200:20

pipes [14] - 176:21,

177:4, 177:5, 177:9,

177:13, 177:16,

177:19, 177:22,

178:5, 178:6,

178:11, 200:13,

201:5

place [11] - 82:10,

84:11, 103:13,

109:24, 117:22,

118:22, 150:16,

153:11, 176:21,

203:11, 203:22

placed [3] - 55:3,

101:15, 103:4

places [1] - 151:19

plain [2] - 28:23, 35:17

Plaintiff [6] - 1:5, 1:12,

2:4, 2:10, 75:19,

169:3

Plaintiff's [2] - 74:4,

80:3

Plan [14] - 3:12, 3:16,

3:20, 23:23, 24:11,

37:4, 46:23, 47:6,

48:14, 49:3, 49:6,

52:22, 155:12

plan [42] - 17:2, 24:3,

24:22, 25:7, 25:18,

27:11, 28:16, 35:7,

35:11, 35:12, 35:13,

35:14, 35:20, 35:21,

35:22, 36:3, 36:4,

36:6, 36:11, 36:20,

36:24, 37:24, 41:22,

42:4, 42:5, 42:7,

43:5, 48:1, 53:1,

60:13, 63:17, 71:7,

71:12, 95:21, 95:24,

96:6, 134:11,

140:17, 140:18,

167:18, 169:5

planning [1] - 197:9

Planning [1] - 78:11

plans [9] - 35:4, 39:5,

45:22, 49:4, 49:7,

144:12, 144:15,

169:9

Plans [1] - 49:10

plastic [1] - 200:19

play [1] - 17:7

pleading [1] - 165:16

PLEASE [2] - 206:2,

207:10

pleased [6] - 119:24,

184:21, 193:5,

193:9, 193:10,

194:18

pleasing [1] - 185:9

pleasure [2] - 184:22,

194:17

plus [1] - 20:4

point [20] - 18:17,

38:11, 47:18, 48:16,

82:4, 109:20,

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137:1, 167:16,

167:17, 168:4,

169:12, 180:9,

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pool [5] - 23:5, 23:8,

31:21, 60:1, 164:13

Port [6] - 62:7, 62:8,

62:10, 62:12, 62:15,

62:21

port [2] - 62:14, 62:17

portion [33] - 26:4,

26:10, 34:19, 34:20,

61:7, 64:18, 70:24,

91:22, 92:1, 92:5,

96:5, 111:12,

117:24, 120:10,

122:19, 123:1,

123:6, 124:5, 126:4,

127:3, 127:10,

150:24, 153:10,

154:11, 154:14,

155:18, 160:9,

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portions [13] - 66:10,

83:24, 87:14, 97:20,

112:1, 123:9, 125:8,

138:5, 138:16,

139:5, 151:16, 173:5

position [6] - 9:4,

107:23, 115:22,

120:2, 190:2, 190:18

positions [1] - 9:18

positive [1] - 69:11

possession [5] -

58:10, 79:20, 80:12,

128:7, 128:10

possible [1] - 203:20

post-1999 [1] - 98:13

potential [4] - 166:19,

178:7, 183:10,

204:10

potentially [3] -

166:17, 191:20,

202:20

poured [4] - 59:16,

59:17, 60:7, 60:9

Poured [1] - 59:19

pouring [1] - 57:9

Power [1] - 8:17

precisely [1] - 81:11

predate [1] - 129:11

Preliminary [7] - 4:3,

112:8, 112:14,

112:19, 113:3,

120:15, 120:21

prepare [1] - 49:2

prepared [6] - 35:23,

35:24, 47:1, 48:15,

75:8, 175:17

present [38] - 2:9,

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pretty [3] - 69:24,

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prevented [1] - 122:3

previous [1] - 176:19

previously [1] - 98:14

primarily [5] - 20:9,

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principal [1] - 93:7

priority [2] - 95:7,

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privileged [1] - 157:19

privileges [1] - 168:18

Procedure [1] - 1:12

procedure [2] - 207:4,

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process [4] - 11:16,

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produce [2] - 76:5,

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Produce [1] - 129:12

produced [3] - 59:5,

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producing [1] - 58:17

Production [9] - 3:23,

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Project [1] - 46:24

properties [2] - 41:10,

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property [102] - 18:23,

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31:4, 31:6, 31:20,

34:5, 34:19, 34:21,

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53:3, 53:11, 63:9,

63:19, 64:3, 65:20,

66:22, 67:24, 75:18,

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93:5, 105:24,

113:16, 116:12,

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171:13, 171:15,

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proposal [1] - 114:19

proposed [2] - 45:24,

202:16

protection [1] - 174:22

provided [8] - 80:5,

80:11, 113:19,

115:23, 121:13,

146:8, 172:4, 203:9

prune [1] - 116:8

public [7] - 40:10,

40:19, 40:24, 73:13,

76:2, 77:9, 102:6

Public [2] - 1:13, 205:3

PUBLIC [2] - 205:23,

206:17

published [3] -

123:14, 123:17,

127:19

publishment [1] -

123:18

pulled [2] - 133:10,

136:10

purchased [2] - 18:18,

104:10

purpose [4] - 20:18,

55:6, 158:18, 188:19

purposes [2] - 167:9,

170:19

pursuant [1] - 1:11

pushed [4] - 142:10,

142:15, 143:5, 143:7

put [44] - 24:6, 27:10,

27:15, 28:1, 28:18,

28:21, 28:22, 35:18,

43:3, 50:7, 54:11,

59:19, 60:11, 68:17,

69:4, 70:9, 70:11,

71:22, 89:2, 89:12,

90:17, 91:7, 92:2,

93:4, 104:9, 104:15,

119:16, 119:17,

119:19, 130:18,

131:11, 131:12,

132:16, 142:15,

149:20, 151:24,

161:21, 166:19,

179:17, 187:13,

188:3, 188:10,

190:1, 196:6

putting [4] - 61:10,

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qualifications [1] -

147:16

qualified [1] - 205:3

questioned [4] -

194:6, 194:9,

195:20, 200:12

questions [4] - 19:8,

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194:1

quibble [1] - 139:6

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rail [3] - 103:5, 182:4,

182:5

railroad [5] - 19:12,

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134:2

raise [1] - 104:18

raised [2] - 133:7,

190:14

ran [1] - 141:4

rare [1] - 12:7

rather [1] - 202:9

raw [1] - 135:5

ray [1] - 150:11

re [2] - 92:4, 149:21

re-did [1] - 92:4

re-stake [1] - 149:21

read [15] - 5:6, 5:13,

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148:3, 166:4,

172:15, 176:17,

176:19, 195:6,

197:2, 206:7, 207:5,

207:7

reading [3] - 45:5,

45:6, 159:10

real [7] - 88:9, 159:5,

159:8, 165:24,

166:15, 200:2,

204:12

reality [2] - 12:22

really [16] - 9:21, 13:9,

15:20, 16:4, 36:8,

49:12, 55:22, 69:20,

70:4, 93:6, 105:3,

124:14, 132:18,

143:20, 162:1,

198:23

realty [1] - 43:17

Realty [13] - 3:13,

3:15, 3:17, 18:24,

24:1, 24:12, 25:8,

33:4, 33:13, 33:24,

37:1, 37:5, 43:16

reason [7] - 13:6,

17:17, 17:21, 18:11,

36:15, 79:6, 166:22

reasons [3] - 13:6,

163:13, 197:7

Rebecca's [2] -

103:20, 106:3

receipt [2] - 5:17, 5:18

receive [7] - 8:4, 8:12,

116:24, 125:18,

157:7, 178:9, 194:20

received [3] - 74:21,

194:24, 195:10

recent [1] - 97:9

recently [10] - 10:2,

98:24, 109:22,

164:13, 164:18,

183:7, 188:7,

188:10, 188:14,

198:21

recess [1] - 128:21

Recess [2] - 36:21,

80:1

recession [2] - 200:2,

202:9

recognize [7] - 19:7,

33:8, 61:17, 108:11,

110:12, 110:14,

127:14

recognizing [1] -

27:11

recollection [16] -

7:22, 8:1, 28:2,

29:12, 29:13, 29:16,

29:20, 30:11, 55:1,

79:15, 115:21,

119:4, 133:24,

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recommended [1] -

187:22

record [9] - 24:6,

26:21, 26:23, 46:20,

46:21, 102:7, 107:6,

195:6, 197:2

recorded [7] - 24:3,

24:8, 33:5, 33:17,

35:12, 39:20, 77:7

records [10] - 18:16,

75:6, 76:5, 77:4,

77:6, 77:12, 80:23,

81:4, 109:3

Recross [1] - 3:2

red [5] - 27:9, 43:3,

50:6, 51:18, 63:21

REDIRECT [1] - 202:2

Redirect [1] - 3:2

refer [1] - 53:5

reference [3] - 116:5,

168:4, 181:3

referenced [5] - 37:10,

37:12, 169:5,

178:18, 181:24

referred [20] - 24:11,

33:12, 37:4, 39:22,

40:8, 47:6, 74:9,

108:6, 110:8, 111:9,

111:21, 112:14,

113:2, 131:15,

136:18, 189:8,

191:22, 195:15,

197:13, 200:7

referring [18] - 21:13,

35:8, 39:11, 41:15,

47:24, 104:14,

120:7, 135:10,

140:10, 140:11,

151:14, 151:15,

179:5, 181:4, 182:3,

190:5, 193:11, 199:9

refers [1] - 202:19

regard [1] - 94:22

Registered [2] - 1:13,

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Registry [3] - 35:12,

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release [2] - 40:19,

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remainder [3] - 15:21,

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remember [25] - 18:9,

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removed [2] - 30:7,

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render [3] - 173:10,

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rendered [1] - 174:23

repair [4] - 169:17,

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rephrase [3] - 82:22,

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replaced [2] - 176:24,

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report [2] - 173:17,

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requesting [1] - 84:17

requests [5] - 75:13,

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require [2] - 126:14,

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required [4] - 92:9,

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requirements [1] -

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requires [2] - 123:24,

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requiring [1] - 183:3

reroute [3] - 177:18,

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rerouted [4] - 176:24,

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reserved [1] - 5:11

residential [1] - 6:7

resigning [1] - 13:7

resources [1] - 203:23

respectfully [2] -

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respective [1] - 5:5

respond [1] - 105:1

response [4] - 58:17,

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responsibilities [3] -

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responsibility [2] -

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responsive [2] -

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rest [5] - 104:9,

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119:14, 119:19

Restaurant [1] -

103:20

result [4] - 85:4,

123:19, 156:10,

178:15

resulting [1] - 84:10

retaining [23] - 31:4,

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retire [1] - 13:9

retired [2] - 18:5, 18:6

return [2] - 203:2,

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revenue [1] - 157:7

revetment [1] - 132:16

review [5] - 42:1,

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reviewed [4] - 49:7,

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revised [1] - 24:2

rid [1] - 193:12

right-hand [1] - 68:3

rights [10] - 128:4,

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rise [21] - 34:20, 36:2,

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rises [1] - 45:10

river [1] - 63:10

River [37] - 3:12, 3:13,

3:15, 3:16, 3:17, 6:8,

18:24, 23:24, 24:12,

24:12, 25:8, 33:4,

33:13, 33:24, 36:24,

37:1, 37:5, 37:5,

39:3, 39:7, 46:24,

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62:15, 62:20, 63:1,

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River's [1] - 183:3

RMR [2] - 1:13, 205:22

road [3] - 119:19,

197:4, 197:5

Road [2] - 196:21,

197:3

roadway [1] - 93:20

Rob [4] - 186:19,

186:21, 187:7, 187:9

rock [1] - 23:15

Rodman [1] - 103:20

role [2] - 12:23, 17:6

roof [2] - 163:22,

164:1

roofs [1] - 201:3

room [1] - 55:9

rose [2] - 65:14, 66:2

roughly [1] - 66:1

RPR [1] - 205:22

ruler [1] - 52:9

rules [3] - 35:15,

35:17, 207:4

Rules [1] - 1:11

run [2] - 63:3, 196:8

run-down [1] - 196:8

running [4] - 71:21,

104:7, 116:9, 160:13

runs [5] - 139:23,

167:21, 171:13,

179:8, 196:9

S

safe [1] - 149:12

safety [1] - 197:6

sales [1] - 202:17

SAME [1] - 206:4

samples [1] - 144:13

sand [7] - 23:15,

55:15, 56:7, 56:10,

56:15, 56:17, 57:18

sat [2] - 117:12,

117:14

satisfy [1] - 121:7

save [3] - 74:20,

127:5, 127:11

saving [1] - 127:23

saw [5] - 11:20, 32:19,

42:2, 42:5, 113:8

scale [4] - 26:17,

26:18, 27:12, 140:20

schedule [1] - 59:4

Schnitzlein [1] - 2:10

SCHNITZLEIN [2] -

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school [7] - 6:23, 7:4,

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schools [1] - 8:10

scratch [1] - 64:12

sea [5] - 34:14, 47:16,

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Seal [1] - 205:20

search [4] - 75:8,

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searching [1] - 75:5

season [1] - 155:14

second [8] - 13:21,

26:22, 73:9, 73:16,

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Second [6] - 3:22,

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secretary [1] - 147:9

Secretary [1] - 148:4

section [8] - 51:15,

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55:2, 64:22, 78:17,

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sections [1] - 65:6

See [2] - 1:2, 33:18

see [33] - 13:4, 17:1,

17:17, 19:20, 22:12,

25:8, 25:12, 25:20,

26:9, 31:22, 32:20,

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SEIGENBERG [131] -

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select [1] - 188:16

selling [1] - 30:5

send [2] - 188:13,

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sense [5] - 130:19,

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sent [5] - 73:10, 73:17,

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separated [1] - 22:17

September [8] - 3:14,

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series [2] - 115:15,

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served [1] - 62:5

set [5] - 95:13, 129:11,

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Settlement [6] - 4:11,

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seven [1] - 192:12

seven-eight [1] -

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several [1] - 135:17

shack [5] - 163:22,

163:24, 164:1,

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shacks [30] - 19:13,

19:21, 19:24, 20:10,

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shakes [1] - 19:22

shall [1] - 5:6

shareholder [8] -

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15:23, 16:14, 16:16,

16:21, 17:12

shares [6] - 14:23,

15:2, 15:19, 15:21,

16:19, 17:4

Sharon [2] - 1:16, 2:3

shear [3] - 23:11,

23:13, 56:3

shed [1] - 169:17

sheet [8] - 59:11,

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SHEET [1] - 207:1

sheet-pile [2] - 69:16,

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sheeting [4] - 88:15,

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shook [1] - 175:23

shore [2] - 22:8,

160:24

Shore [2] - 6:8, 46:24

shoring [2] - 71:7,

106:8

Shorthand [2] - 1:22,

205:2

shot [1] - 72:1

shovel [1] - 149:20

show [11] - 37:9,

79:23, 81:23,

108:10, 129:18,

130:15, 131:19,

136:22, 143:1,

188:23, 196:19

showed [5] - 35:9,

36:1, 54:12, 54:14,

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showing [4] - 54:6,

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132:21

shown [7] - 5:20,

37:14, 45:21, 46:16,

49:5, 169:4, 169:8

shows [2] - 132:11,

138:7

shrubbery [2] - 116:7,

196:8

shrunk [1] - 140:19

sic [3] - 55:20, 123:18,

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sic] [1] - 148:19

side [4] - 67:24, 68:3,

156:14, 169:12

sign [5] - 5:13, 5:16,

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SIGNATURE [2] -

206:20, 207:22

signature [3] - 114:14,

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signed [5] - 5:6,

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significantly [1] -

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signing [2] - 5:7,

108:21

similar [2] - 95:10,

106:7

simple [3] - 84:12,

84:13, 84:23

simply [7] - 17:9,

25:19, 45:6, 61:14,

148:5, 169:14, 192:7

sit [4] - 77:15, 106:23,

117:15, 179:18

site [9] - 20:9, 20:11,

20:16, 20:19, 29:21,

48:15, 146:11,

149:23, 151:12

sitting [1] - 104:10

situated [1] - 34:2

six [2] - 9:7, 134:21

sixty [1] - 13:13

sixty-eight [1] - 13:13

size [1] - 157:2

slab [1] - 180:2

slash [1] - 70:18

slips [2] - 31:11, 36:8

slope [43] - 55:8,

55:20, 55:22, 55:24,

56:1, 56:21, 57:16,

57:17, 57:22, 90:11,

116:7, 132:11,

132:14, 133:4,

133:5, 133:16,

133:21, 135:24,

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142:1, 142:3,

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Slope [1] - 140:23

sloped [3] - 132:22,

135:7, 135:11

slopes [1] - 66:22

slow [2] - 50:14

slowly [1] - 136:10

small [2] - 10:15,

54:14

smaller [2] - 58:7,

185:24

so-called [4] - 42:12,

110:19, 148:11,

169:15

social [3] - 94:3,

94:18, 95:4

socially [1] - 94:2

soil [10] - 30:7, 30:14,

30:18, 143:16,

143:17, 145:8,

145:10, 185:22,

187:24, 188:2

sold [3] - 14:23, 15:3,

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solidify [1] - 113:9

someone [5] - 118:3,

145:9, 146:15,

147:4, 187:18

somewhere [14] -

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53:16, 54:24, 58:11,

60:6, 60:8, 72:7,

78:21, 78:23,

163:23, 171:20,

173:24

Sorry [1] - 144:1

sorry [9] - 55:21, 57:1,

106:12, 106:13,

160:5, 160:8,

170:11, 175:21,

176:5

sort [2] - 88:23, 135:23

sought [1] - 101:1

sound [4] - 13:15,

19:1, 152:1, 186:3

Sousa [2] - 186:12,

186:13

south [7] - 21:5, 27:7,

195:21, 196:2,

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SOUTH [1] - 1:5

South [16] - 4:2, 4:8,

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177:21, 182:6,

194:7, 194:17,

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southerly [38] - 22:2,

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southern [1] - 141:16

space [3] - 127:5,

127:11, 127:15

spaces [2] - 127:24,

196:12

spanned [1] - 197:17

speaks [1] - 113:23

special [6] - 189:14,

189:17, 189:19,

190:3, 190:9

specific [2] - 192:6,

193:1

specifically [17] -

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75:12, 100:23,

113:12, 126:2,

159:4, 159:13,

159:24, 160:10,

172:4, 178:18,

189:22, 191:15,

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specifics [1] - 103:8

spell [2] - 14:24,

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split [3] - 103:5, 182:4,

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split-rail [3] - 103:5,

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spot [1] - 106:1

spring [3] - 104:2,

104:8, 106:2

square [2] - 162:2,

179:20

squared [1] - 192:5

squatters [1] - 21:4

SS [1] - 1:3

stabilizing [1] - 174:10

staff [1] - 13:3

stairway [2] - 179:12,

179:22

stake [1] - 149:21

stakes [3] - 149:22,

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stalled [1] - 138:17

stand [1] - 198:19

start [4] - 9:11, 18:12,

50:5, 59:14

started [7] - 19:21,

19:22, 20:1, 30:5,

94:15, 106:18,

146:17

starting [3] - 16:7,

20:24, 51:22

starts [2] - 39:8

State [8] - 62:7, 62:14,

62:23, 63:1, 63:2,

63:3, 63:5, 148:4

state [6] - 6:4, 35:24,

79:12, 147:4,

157:21, 190:1

statement [1] - 80:7

statements [2] -

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Stating [1] - 158:2

stay [1] - 98:6

steep [1] - 137:22

stenographic [1] -

205:11

step [1] - 13:11

steps [2] - 61:19,

179:23

sticking [1] - 158:15

sticks [1] - 180:16

still [15] - 15:8, 15:11,

17:5, 22:12, 31:22,

54:4, 58:9, 75:5,

98:16, 104:10,

137:22, 141:11,

171:11, 196:11,

204:1

still.. [1] - 13:5

stilts [2] - 22:12, 140:4

stipulate [1] - 175:13

stipulated [3] - 5:4,

5:7, 5:9

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stone [3] - 69:5, 162:6,

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storage [11] - 155:14,

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store [6] - 94:9,

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stored [4] - 156:21,

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stories [1] - 45:19

storm [1] - 58:5

straight [9] - 23:11,

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stretch [1] - 113:2

strike [19] - 5:10,

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81:8, 101:7, 110:19,

123:2, 138:22,

156:17, 156:22,

166:21, 170:22,

178:13, 190:13,

193:10

structural [3] - 183:10,

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structurally [3] -

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structure [12] - 40:12,

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structures [14] -

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Study [6] - 42:6, 42:9,

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stuff [9] - 49:14, 49:16,

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style [1] - 196:9

subject [3] - 34:6,

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submitted [1] - 147:13

Subscribed [1] -

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subsequent [1] -

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subsequently [3] -

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substance [1] - 207:9

substantially [1] -

203:22

suffice [1] - 157:22

suggestion [2] -

145:22, 148:5

suggestions [1] -

117:6

suiting [1] - 204:9

sum [1] - 203:9

summer [6] - 104:6,

105:20, 106:10,

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Superseding [9] -

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80:17, 82:1, 84:1,

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supposed [3] - 176:9,

176:22, 201:7

survey [2] - 149:11,

149:16

surveying [1] - 149:8

surveyor [2] - 149:6,

150:9

surveyors [1] - 150:16

Swansea [1] - 7:2

swimming [3] - 23:5,

23:7, 164:13

switching [1] - 19:12

sworn [3] - 5:21,

205:6, 206:13

system [4] - 123:13,

176:2, 176:10,

177:23

T

T-A-R-P [1] - 164:16

talks [4] - 76:9, 111:5,

113:14, 135:6

tarp [2] - 164:14,

164:15

Taunton [3] - 2:7,

39:3, 39:7

temporary [2] -

182:24, 183:2

ten [4] - 66:5, 103:6,

137:24, 140:3

tent [5] - 164:19,

164:24, 165:7,

165:9, 165:12

tents [1] - 165:10

term [1] - 123:12

terms [2] - 100:16,

147:18

testified [2] - 194:12,

200:11

testify [3] - 175:8,

175:12, 205:6

testifying [1] - 32:12

testimony [5] - 57:19,

87:7, 87:22, 142:24,

153:9

tests [1] - 143:16

thanked [2] - 127:8,

127:17

thankful [1] - 127:8

thanking [6] - 117:5,

123:15, 123:16,

125:23, 127:20,

153:6

THE [27] - 32:14,

38:19, 39:6, 44:5,

44:19, 48:10,

106:17, 109:10,

114:2, 122:10,

126:17, 140:21,

143:22, 144:1,

154:1, 159:3, 164:5,

166:4, 169:10,

170:17, 176:7,

176:20, 206:3,

206:3, 206:4, 207:10

themselves [1] - 120:2

therefore [4] - 96:6,

100:20, 127:23,

191:16

therein [2] - 111:1,

169:5

they've [1] - 83:3

They've [1] - 95:18

thinking [2] - 127:4,

129:12

third [2] - 181:5,

203:13

third-party [1] -

203:13

THIS [1] - 206:3

Thomas [1] - 1:13

THOMAS [3] - 1:21,

205:2, 205:22

threat [1] - 58:4

three [15] - 6:21, 7:10,

10:5, 31:7, 45:19,

58:6, 62:2, 64:15,

83:18, 191:19,

191:20, 191:22,

193:8, 203:20

throughout [6] -

115:13, 115:15,

141:14, 156:8,

170:22, 175:4

tide [4] - 61:8, 162:16,

163:2, 163:21

tied [1] - 176:9

timeframe [7] - 15:7,

53:14, 54:10, 63:13,

68:8, 129:11, 143:18

timeline [2] - 85:15,

129:23

tires [1] - 23:18

title [2] - 9:21, 9:24

TO [1] - 206:3

Tobiasson [2] -

148:17, 184:9

TOBISON [1] - 148:19

today [9] - 22:12,

28:14, 76:21, 77:15,

129:7, 131:1, 142:4,

165:5, 179:18

together [7] - 32:18,

32:19, 32:20, 77:11,

95:3, 122:11, 188:10

ton [1] - 104:7

Tony [2] - 186:12,

186:13

took [14] - 29:17, 92:4,

103:13, 109:24,

117:21, 136:9,

138:15, 142:14,

146:8, 153:11,

176:21, 179:17,

203:11, 204:11

top [42] - 21:19, 23:2,

26:14, 26:18, 27:20,

28:1, 28:8, 28:19,

28:21, 28:23, 30:16,

30:17, 30:20, 47:13,

47:21, 47:22, 48:1,

49:16, 57:4, 58:14,

68:4, 116:9, 121:22,

132:11, 132:13,

133:7, 133:15,

133:20, 134:8,

134:10, 134:12,

134:20, 135:22,

137:8, 137:19,

138:24, 141:7,

142:15, 163:8,

164:17, 166:20

Top [1] - 140:23

top-of-wall [1] - 49:16

toward [2] - 23:10,

184:13

towards [16] - 21:23,

22:22, 25:12, 27:23,

29:22, 93:3, 101:21,

134:24, 137:16,

137:20, 142:12,

156:19, 160:24,

171:18, 180:1, 187:2

transcript [3] - 5:6,

205:9, 205:10

TRANSCRIPT [2] -

206:3, 207:11

trash [1] - 23:17

Tree [1] - 43:16

trees [2] - 57:21,

139:23

trespass [5] - 153:4,

153:21, 180:11,

181:1, 181:21

LINDA M. THOMAS COURT REPORTING

19trespassed [1] -

178:15

trespasses [4] -

180:14, 180:15,

182:10, 182:12

trespassing [2] -

154:2, 181:4

trial [2] - 5:11, 175:8

tried [3] - 95:12, 102:6,

143:20

tries [1] - 95:6

trigger [5] - 203:11,

203:21, 204:5,

204:6, 204:13

truck [2] - 142:18,

142:19

true [5] - 71:18, 100:5,

100:7, 205:10, 206:7

Trust [13] - 3:13, 3:15,

3:17, 18:24, 24:1,

24:12, 25:8, 33:4,

33:13, 33:24, 37:1,

37:6, 43:16

trust [1] - 43:17

Trustee [2] - 18:24,

33:3

truth [2] - 205:6, 205:7

try [32] - 12:24, 18:15,

56:19, 65:17, 65:19,

69:23, 78:12, 84:12,

84:20, 94:3, 96:8,

96:9, 97:11, 104:24,

107:3, 117:19,

119:14, 121:7,

123:21, 123:22,

124:15, 126:1,

127:5, 127:11,

127:14, 140:1,

145:15, 146:1,

165:16, 178:1,

178:9, 190:13

trying [17] - 23:9, 56:9,

62:16, 70:4, 81:3,

96:9, 104:2, 104:7,

117:6, 130:19,

130:24, 131:8,

132:20, 132:21,

138:2, 142:22,

170:15

turn [1] - 75:8

turned [2] - 75:4, 77:4

turns [1] - 151:3

twice [2] - 88:7,

120:13

Two [4] - 1:16, 2:3,

4:5, 136:18

two [22] - 6:22, 7:18,

8:9, 14:8, 25:18,

45:19, 65:14, 65:16,

74:1, 87:23, 90:12,

118:9, 122:15,

124:12, 134:14,

134:21, 136:15,

136:23, 167:5,

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two-to-one [1] - 90:12

type [13] - 8:23, 18:7,

91:12, 98:13, 138:8,

143:17, 146:11,

155:4, 184:16,

185:6, 186:7,

187:22, 196:1

U

U-Mass [2] - 6:21, 7:14

Um-hum [4] - 24:20,

34:9, 46:11, 163:10

um-hum [16] - 7:15,

9:3, 9:17, 10:16,

12:15, 19:16, 31:23,

45:16, 47:14, 52:16,

55:14, 92:3, 110:13,

181:19, 196:22,

200:14

uncomfortable [1] -

190:2

uncovered [2] -

176:21, 201:6

UNDER [1] - 206:4

Under [1] - 177:18

under [16] - 1:11,

16:13, 18:22, 19:17,

51:8, 55:3, 67:5,

83:24, 93:12, 93:18,

99:24, 151:20,

166:11, 168:7,

177:15, 177:21

undermined [1] -

140:7

understood [4] - 29:3,

45:1, 168:13, 168:16

undertake [1] - 201:17

unearthened [1] -

55:20

unit [11] - 4:6, 6:9,

181:6, 188:7,

188:11, 188:13,

188:22, 188:24,

189:3, 189:9, 189:14

units [5] - 34:21,

36:17, 41:5, 41:14,

196:13

University [2] - 7:16,

8:4

UNLESS [1] - 206:4

unless [2] - 29:10,

182:14

up [63] - 15:13, 20:10,

20:21, 21:1, 22:4,

22:5, 22:22, 23:20,

28:19, 28:21, 28:22,

29:22, 30:16, 30:17,

30:18, 30:20, 30:23,

34:24, 35:19, 38:20,

57:4, 63:10, 65:14,

65:15, 66:3, 84:7,

90:17, 92:2, 103:4,

104:3, 104:5,

104:10, 105:11,

106:8, 114:5,

115:24, 116:7,

117:18, 125:21,

127:15, 133:11,

134:13, 138:24,

142:11, 142:13,

149:3, 150:1,

153:14, 162:6,

163:2, 165:13,

175:10, 176:8,

179:8, 179:11,

179:23, 187:21,

193:5, 193:11,

193:20, 196:5,

196:7, 203:24

utilities [1] - 93:5

utilize [11] - 20:19,

27:12, 27:24, 28:16,

40:19, 44:23, 156:5,

170:15, 171:4,

171:8, 172:1

utilized [4] - 122:19,

123:7, 124:24,

125:18

V

varies [1] - 157:1

various [8] - 48:20,

52:22, 53:6, 59:13,

82:15, 82:16, 83:10,

142:4

vegetation [7] - 23:16,

55:17, 57:18,

131:20, 138:6,

138:7, 138:8

vegetative [1] - 138:3

vehicle [1] - 124:13

Vermont [3] - 8:17,

8:18, 8:23

versus [2] - 11:7,

174:13

vertical [8] - 133:5,

172:2, 172:17,

173:12, 174:3,

174:7, 174:13,

174:21

vessels [2] - 165:19,

165:20

viable [1] - 202:16

view [14] - 17:9, 38:16,

38:19, 38:21, 38:23,

41:6, 41:14, 115:4,

163:6, 166:22,

167:15, 168:12,

168:14, 168:22

viewed [1] - 122:12

views [9] - 34:18,

34:24, 36:17, 38:4,

44:21, 166:18,

168:6, 168:8, 168:15

violates [1] - 163:12

violation [5] - 120:11,

120:21, 121:15,

162:11, 165:18

Visual [3] - 3:18,

39:19, 39:22

visual [29] - 34:6,

34:10, 34:15, 36:15,

37:23, 38:2, 40:6,

40:8, 40:23, 44:12,

45:20, 46:15, 46:17,

158:20, 159:3,

159:12, 159:23,

162:12, 163:12,

165:18, 165:21,

166:21, 166:23,

167:12, 167:13,

168:19, 168:21,

169:4, 169:10

Volume [1] - 1:1

vs [1] - 1:6

W

wait [3] - 44:4, 104:1,

106:2

Wait [1] - 176:16

waive [1] - 5:13

waived [1] - 5:8

walk [2] - 118:11,

151:10

walked [1] - 160:22

walkway [5] - 40:10,

40:17, 40:20, 40:24

wall [183] - 31:4, 31:5,

35:10, 44:10, 47:13,

47:22, 48:1, 49:16,

49:21, 49:23, 50:2,

50:7, 50:12, 50:23,

51:3, 51:6, 51:8,

51:13, 51:15, 51:22,

52:1, 52:10, 52:18,

54:6, 54:7, 54:15,

54:22, 55:2, 55:7,

59:15, 59:21, 59:23,

60:14, 64:1, 64:6,

64:9, 64:10, 64:12,

64:18, 64:23, 64:24,

65:1, 65:4, 65:9,

65:11, 65:17, 65:21,

65:24, 66:9, 66:16,

66:21, 67:1, 67:6,

67:19, 67:20, 67:21,

67:23, 68:2, 68:4,

68:13, 68:19, 68:24,

69:4, 69:16, 69:17,

70:10, 70:14, 70:17,

70:20, 70:22, 71:6,

71:7, 71:9, 72:3,

72:10, 72:11, 72:15,

78:17, 79:3, 79:8,

79:16, 81:7, 81:14,

81:19, 82:10, 82:11,

82:12, 82:13, 83:24,

84:15, 84:18, 85:3,

89:6, 89:14, 89:20,

90:17, 91:3, 91:4,

91:12, 91:13, 91:17,

92:18, 92:22, 92:24,

100:1, 100:17,

100:20, 101:6,

103:3, 103:22,

104:9, 104:19,

111:6, 111:8,

111:21, 113:2,

114:5, 115:1, 115:2,

115:6, 118:18,

118:20, 119:19,

119:22, 121:3,

121:18, 121:22,

121:23, 122:5,

134:12, 139:9,

146:11, 150:20,

151:3, 153:10,

155:17, 156:10,

156:14, 156:18,

167:20, 170:21,

170:23, 171:5,

172:2, 172:7, 172:9,

174:3, 174:11,

174:13, 174:21,

176:6, 177:1,

177:12, 179:22,

183:6, 183:7, 183:9,

183:11, 183:15,

184:13, 184:16,

185:12, 185:24,

186:1, 187:2,

191:13, 192:4,

192:9, 193:20,

196:7, 197:17,

197:21, 197:24,

201:7, 201:9,

201:10, 202:20

walls [101] - 50:17,

53:10, 53:24, 57:15,

59:8, 59:9, 59:14,

60:18, 61:4, 61:7,

61:12, 63:19, 64:13,

83:6, 84:21, 85:1,

85:7, 86:1, 86:2,

86:11, 86:14, 86:22,

87:9, 87:20, 88:1,

88:11, 88:14, 89:10,

92:20, 95:14, 95:23,

96:2, 96:3, 96:10,

96:12, 96:13, 96:17,

96:24, 97:5, 97:8,

97:13, 97:17, 97:18,

98:3, 98:9, 98:12,

98:17, 98:19, 98:22,

99:11, 99:16, 99:21,

100:9, 100:24,

102:18, 102:22,

102:23, 105:4,

106:7, 107:9,

109:18, 110:17,

112:7, 113:9,

115:24, 117:10,

119:7, 119:17,

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20120:20, 121:13,

122:12, 136:8,

138:22, 143:9,

144:6, 144:11,

149:5, 151:24,

160:12, 172:16,

172:17, 172:18,

173:6, 173:12,

173:15, 173:20,

174:7, 176:3,

183:22, 184:4,

184:6, 184:17,

184:19, 185:1,

185:16, 185:20,

190:15, 194:9,

198:10, 203:5, 203:6

Walpole [1] - 1:23

washed [1] - 135:3

watched [1] - 127:18

watching [1] - 198:4

Water [1] - 63:7

water [26] - 20:1, 21:7,

21:10, 21:24, 24:18,

24:21, 25:4, 27:23,

38:24, 39:1, 132:12,

132:14, 135:1,

137:16, 137:17,

137:20, 140:4,

140:24, 143:6,

156:19, 163:2,

163:3, 164:8,

171:18, 180:1, 201:2

water's [2] - 21:15,

140:9

waterfront [2] - 21:1,

149:1

Waterway [1] - 61:14

Waterways [2] - 61:6,

78:10

waterways [1] - 61:20

ways [1] - 87:23

wedding [1] - 164:17

weeds [2] - 57:20,

90:9

week [1] - 189:4

weeks [1] - 175:9

west [8] - 38:11,

167:16, 167:17,

167:22, 168:7,

168:10, 168:14,

168:15

Wetlands [2] - 78:10,

87:5

whatnot [1] - 185:8

WHEREOF [1] -

205:19

white [1] - 129:15

whole [9] - 50:13,

95:13, 133:8,

141:24, 156:5,

168:20, 170:22,

170:24, 179:11

widened [2] - 196:3,

196:4

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wife [1] - 93:11

wife's [2] - 6:13, 93:12

wild [1] - 138:5

willing [1] - 113:19

winter [3] - 156:23,

156:24, 157:4

Winter [1] - 1:23

withdrew [1] - 84:9

Witness [3] - 20:14,

27:18, 89:3

WITNESS [25] - 3:2,

32:14, 38:19, 39:6,

44:5, 44:19, 48:10,

106:17, 109:10,

114:2, 122:10,

126:17, 140:21,

143:22, 144:1,

154:1, 159:3, 164:5,

166:4, 169:10,

170:17, 176:7,

176:20, 205:19,

206:20

witness [10] - 51:4,

68:15, 68:18, 77:2,

89:1, 89:21, 126:13,

131:9, 161:22,

175:14

wondering [1] - 39:6

wood [1] - 103:5

word [3] - 41:8, 44:23,

161:21

wording [1] - 75:23

words [8] - 65:19,

139:19, 139:20,

140:2, 143:2, 193:1,

193:2, 197:3

works [3] - 115:10,

115:11, 123:22

wrap [1] - 203:24

wrapped [1] - 105:11

write [6] - 27:16,

59:17, 60:8, 81:16,

88:23, 162:16

writing [6] - 110:18,

173:19, 175:6,

175:7, 175:22,

188:19

written [10] - 70:19,

108:14, 113:23,

114:23, 115:18,

153:10, 166:6,

167:7, 173:17,

175:17

wrote [8] - 7:23, 7:24,

60:9, 147:9, 147:19,

147:21, 188:7,

189:14

Y

yacht [1] - 160:24

Yankee [3] - 8:17,

8:19, 8:24

yard [3] - 19:12, 21:3,

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2121:15

year [33] - 7:3, 7:16,

8:21, 9:2, 9:6, 9:11,

14:10, 16:24, 50:15,

54:22, 62:20, 64:18,

68:7, 68:17, 72:3,

73:17, 90:4, 90:5,

97:10, 101:4,

117:19, 118:24,

119:1, 135:17,

135:20, 149:10,

149:13, 150:6,

157:8, 173:7,

198:24, 199:1

years [52] - 6:21, 7:9,

8:18, 9:14, 10:5,

19:7, 35:5, 45:5,

58:6, 58:14, 62:2,

63:16, 70:4, 73:19,

75:6, 77:24, 84:11,

92:15, 93:16, 93:19,

93:23, 94:15, 94:21,

95:2, 98:1, 103:6,

103:10, 106:9,

122:11, 122:14,

125:16, 130:8,

136:10, 143:7,

146:10, 148:2,

149:13, 175:5,

180:3, 180:7,

180:21, 181:8,

182:8, 184:16,

186:7, 190:12,

192:12, 197:18,

197:19, 203:20,

204:14

yellow [7] - 70:9,

70:11, 70:19, 71:6,

91:7, 101:16, 111:12

yourself [1] - 15:16

yup [1] - 112:21

Z

Zoning [3] - 78:6,

78:7, 183:3

zoning [1] - 204:8