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DETROIT BOARD OF POLICE COMMISSIONERS

COMMUNITY EVENING MEETING - 12TH PRECINCT

THURSDAY, JANUARY 8, 2015 6:30 PM

10421 WEST SEVEN MILE ROAD

WESLEY COMMUNITY CENTER

DETROIT, MICHIGAN 48221

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1 COMMISSIONERS:

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3 GEORGE ANTHONY, Secretary

4 WILLIE BELL, Chairperson

5 LISA CARTER, Vice-Chairperson (Dist. 6)

6 JESSICA TAYLOR, Commissioner (Appointed)

7 DONNELL R. WHITE, Commissioner (Appointed)

8 RICHARD SHELBY, Commissioner (Dist. 1)

9 BISHOP EDGAR VANN, Commissioner (Dist. 2)

10 REGINALD CRAWFORD, Commissioner (Dist. 3)

11 RICARDO R. MOORE, Commissioner (Dist. 7)

12 CONRAD MALLETT, Commissioner (Appointed)

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21 REPRESENTING THE CHIEF OF POLICE'S OFFICE:

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23 CHIEF OF POLICE JAMES E. CRAIG

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1 Detroit, Michigan

2 Thursday, January 8th, 2015

3 About 6:32 p.m.

4 COMMISSIONER BELL: Good evening and

5 welcome to the monthly meeting of the Board of

6 Police Commissioners, our monthly community

7 meeting I should say. I am Willie Bell, I'm your

8 Chair of the Board of Police Commissioners and

9 welcome to a warm building on a warm night in the

10 city of Detroit so you are brave hearts, you're

11 just like the men and women in blue. Weather is

12 not a deterrent because we work 24/7 and I want

13 you to raise your right hand, you are now an

14 honorary member of that body by showing up

15 tonight, but do not expect any pay, it's honorary

16 just like we are honorary.

17 We're going to call the meeting to

18 order and we have a guest minister in the house

19 all the way from Columbia, South Carolina,

20 Dr. James R. Thomas, and he's going to come

21 forward to introduce the rest of his group and

22 opening prayer if you don't mind; Dr. Thomas.

23 Let's give Dr. Thomas a warm welcome of

24 applause.

25 (APPLAUSE.)

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1 COMMISSIONER BELL: Yes, sir.

2 DR. THOMAS: We tried to bring some

3 warm weather from Columbia, South Carolina, but

4 we failed, all we brought was warm clothing and

5 we were right on with that. Let us pray.

6 (INVOCATION WAS GIVEN.)

7 COMMISSIONER BELL: Thank you. Would

8 you introduce your traveling delegation.

9 DR. THOMAS: I'd like for you to stand.

10 These are theology students from Southern

11 Seminary in Columbia, South Carolina and we ask

12 students at our seminary if you could pick a

13 city, New Orleans, Detroit or New York City to

14 spend a 10-day January turn in what city would

15 you pick and they overwhelmingly said Detroit.

16 (APPLAUSE).

17 DR. THOMAS: And these students

18 represent a variety of Christian denominations.

19 We're a Lutheran seminary, but it's a variety of

20 Christian denominations and we're really glad

21 that we can be a part of your meeting as

22 observers tonight, thank you.

23 COMMISSIONER BELL: Sir, if you're so

24 kind, I think would you have them introduce

25 themselves? They traveled this far, we need to

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1 know their names.

2 DR. THOMAS: Say who you are and the

3 church that you represent.

4 MR. ROSE: My name is Peter Rose, I

5 belong to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter

6 Day Saints and I'm going into the Army chaplaincy

7 program.

8 MR. McCLARUM: Good evening, my name is

9 Darren McClarum and I'm a local pastor in the

10 United Methodist Church from Florence, South

11 Carolina.

12 MR. STRABBA: Good evening. My name is

13 Walter Strabba, and I serve Wesley United

14 Methodist Church of Aiken, South Carolina.

15 MR. MEYER: Hello, my name is Earl

16 Meyer and I am a lay person in the Orthodox

17 Church in America.

18 MS. WALKER-NETTLES: Hi, I'm Keri

19 Walker-Nettles, I am in the Baptist denomination

20 and I'm headed towards chaplaincy in the child

21 advocacy arena.

22 MR. PARIS: Good evening, everybody.

23 My name is Joshua Paris, I'm a first year master

24 of divinity student and I am a member of the

25 Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.

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1 MR. WRIGHT: Good evening, Nicholas

2 Wright from Darlington, South Carolina and I am a

3 master of arts in religion student.

4 MR. SHIA: Good evening. My name is

5 George Shia, III, I pastor a church in Sharon,

6 South Carolina right outside of Charlotte near

7 Rock Hill by the name of Mount Hopewell Baptist

8 Church and just a pleasure to be here in

9 observance with your commission meeting tonight.

10 CHRISTOPHER: Good evening, thanks for

11 having us here. My name is Christopher. I'm a

12 Lutheran student, I'm a student. I'm getting

13 ready to graduate in May and I'm looking forward

14 to that. Thanks for having us here.

15 (APPLAUSE).

16 COMMISSIONER BELL: Thank you and God

17 bless all of you in terms of your stay here in

18 Detroit. You really have blessed us this evening

19 by coming out and attending this meeting on this

20 warm night. Once again, thank you.

21 Once again, I am Commissioner Willie

22 Bell, I'm the District 4 and the Chair for the

23 Board this year until June 30th, and just really

24 a blessing. And to my right is our Vice-Chair

25 Lisa Carter and she's going to introduce herself

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1 as we move to my extreme left, I'm going to ask

2 the commissioners to introduce themselves in

3 terms of names and districts please.

4 COMMISSIONER SHELBY: Commissioner

5 Richard Shelby, District 1.

6 COMMISSIONER VANN: Commissioner Edgar

7 Vann, District 2.

8 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Commissioner

9 Reginald Crawford, District 3.

10 COMMISSIONER CARTER: Commissioner Lisa

11 Carter, District 6.

12 COMMISSIONER MOORE: Commissioner

13 Ricardo Moore, District 7, Northwest Detroit.

14 COMMISSIONER WHITE: Good evening.

15 Commissioner Donnell White, appointed at large.

16 COMMISSIONER BELL: And thank you,

17 Commissioners. These are your Commissioners and

18 to my far left is the Chief of Police, James E.

19 Craig.

20 CHIEF CRAIG: Thank you.

21 COMMISSIONER BELL: I want to say once

22 again it's good to see all the Commissioners in

23 2015. It's really been a blessing to kick off

24 the year with a community meeting. A year ago

25 was our installation for the elected

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1 commissioners here in 2014, so we have -- this is

2 our one-year anniversary. It was snowing then

3 and it's cold now, so I guess we've been

4 consistent in our one-year anniversary.

5 So I'm going to ask our Board Secretary

6 George Anthony to introduce the staff of the

7 Commissioners.

8 SECRETARY ANTHONY: Thank you,

9 Mr. Chair. For the record, George Anthony,

10 Secretary to the Board. Before I introduce the

11 staff, Mr. Chair, there are a couple of

12 Commissioners who did not introduce themselves so

13 I want to call their names into the record.

14 Commissioner Conrad Mallett.

15 Commissioner Willie E. Burton has asked to be

16 excused. Commissioner Jessica Taylor.

17 Mr. Chair, you do have a quorum. The

18 staff present is our Chief Investigator

19 Ms. Pamela Davis-Drake. Ms. Drake, can you just

20 stand up so everyone can see who you are. She's

21 our Chief Investigator from the Office of the

22 Chief Investigator.

23 Our recorder for this evening is Sgt.

24 Alan Quinn in the back and Mr. Dale Rose from

25 Hanson Court Reporting Service is taking the

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1 official transcript. That completes the

2 introductions.

3 COMMISSIONER BELL: Thank you, sir. We

4 have a proper quorum. Before we continue, I'm

5 going to ask for the Board to approve the agenda

6 for this meeting Thursday, January 8, and you

7 should have hopefully agendas circulating. We

8 will follow the script with some modifications.

9 We will give the charge of the Board in

10 a few minutes after we approve the agenda for

11 this evening's meeting.

12 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: So move,

13 Mr. Chair.

14 COMMISSIONER MOORE: Second.

15 COMMISSIONER BELL: It's been properly

16 moved and second. Ready for the question? Those

17 in favor, aye?

18 COMMISSIONERS: Aye.

19 (COMMISSIONER MALLETT ARRIVES.)

20 COMMISSIONER BELL: Those opposed?

21 Motion carried. At this particular time I'm

22 going to ask our very own Bishop Vann,

23 Commissioner Vann, to give the charge of the

24 Board of Police Commissioners. This is his

25 second term serving on the Board.

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1 He was appointed by the Mayor to take

2 Commissioner Wendell Byrd's slot as he moved on

3 to state rep, so this is his second meeting in

4 terms of the Board, but once again he served for

5 five years not too long ago.

6 So Commissioner Vann.

7 COMMISSIONER VANN: Thank you,

8 Mr. Chair. Just to -- I will outline the duties

9 and responsibilities of the Detroit Board of

10 Police Commissioners.

11 It was created in 1973 when the

12 citizens of Detroit adopted a new form of

13 governance for the police department by revising

14 the Detroit City Charter and creating the Board

15 of Police Commissioners.

16 The revised City Charter became

17 effective July 1, 1974. The current composition

18 of the Detroit Board of Police Commissioners

19 according to the 2012 City Charter provided for

20 the Board to have 11 commissioners, four members

21 appointed by the Mayor and subject to City

22 Council approval and seven elected members, one

23 from each non-at large police commission

24 district.

25 The 2012 Charter gives the Board

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1 supervisory control and oversight of the police

2 department as set forth in the Charter. We meet

3 at the call of the Chairperson and we're required

4 to meet at least once a week, but may vote to

5 recess during the holidays.

6 All of our meetings are held in

7 accordance with the Michigan Open Meetings Act.

8 Our duties also include, yes, sir.

9 (COMMISSIONER TAYLOR ARRIVES.)

10 COMMISSIONER VANN: Our duties also

11 include establishing policy, rules and

12 regulations for the police department in

13 consultation with the Chief and with the approval

14 of the Mayor, to review and approve the

15 departmental budget, receive and resolve citizen

16 complaints except those alleging criminality, to

17 act as the final authority in imposing and

18 reviewing discipline of the employees of the

19 department, to make an annual report to the Mayor

20 and the City Council and the police department's

21 activities during the previous year including the

22 handling of the crime and complaints and of the

23 future plans.

24 It also includes subpoenaing witnesses,

25 administering oaths, taking testimony and

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1 requiring the production of evidence. The Board

2 approves all promotions made by the Chief and

3 consents to the appointment of the necessary

4 Deputy Chiefs; appoints its own Board Secretary,

5 appoints a Chief Investigator and such additional

6 staff of investigators as it seems necessary.

7 Moreover, the Board appoints the

8 Director of Police Personnel who must be a

9 civilian. All Board appointees serve at the

10 Board's pleasure.

11 The Board as a function and as a

12 purpose is a liaison between the citizens of the

13 city of Detroit and the Detroit Police

14 Department. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

15 COMMISSIONER BELL: Thank you,

16 Commissioner Vann. And to my immediate left is

17 the immediately past Chair Jessica Taylor, she's

18 been seated and it's a privilege to have her in

19 the house on this warm evening also, and newly

20 appointed Commissioner Supreme Court Justice --

21 former Justice Conrad Mallett, he's appointed by

22 the Mayor recently and he's joining us at his

23 first meeting for 2015. Welcome, sir.

24 COMMISSIONER MALLETT: Thank you, sir,

25 sorry to be late.

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1 COMMISSIONER BELL: No problem. Your

2 agenda addressed that we are here at the Wesley

3 Community Center. I want to give a personal

4 thank you on behalf of the Board to Wesley

5 Community Center for hosting our meeting.

6 Is anyone here from Wesley Community

7 Center to officially greet us? Yes, sir, come

8 forward, please.

9 Please give them your name for the

10 record and we appreciate you hosting us.

11 MR. HARVEY: I'm Charles Harvey. I'm a

12 volunteer here at the center. Pastor Mark is

13 here, Pastor Mark Jefferson is here.

14 And welcome to the center. We're glad

15 you're here. We have some good programs here for

16 the seniors and the children, so don't let this

17 be your last time coming here.

18 COMMISSIONER BELL: Thank you for the

19 hospitality and a warm building tonight, so we

20 appreciate this opportunity to interact here at

21 the Wesley Community Center.

22 And Number 8 item on the agenda would

23 be the approving the minutes from Thursday,

24 December 18, 2014. Commission, you have the

25 minutes? What is your pleasure in terms of

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1 approval? Correction, it's minutes. That's why

2 she's sitting to my right, it's the minutes.

3 COMMISSIONER MOORE: So moved.

4 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.


6 moved and seconded. Ready for the question?

7 Those in favor, aye?



10 Motion carries. I'm going to reserve my remarks.

11 I just want to say that as Chair it's a blessing

12 to have this opportunity to come out in the

13 community to kick off 2015. We're looking

14 towards a great year of interaction with the

15 community.

16 We know that the challenges are before

17 us and we're willing meet that challenge in terms

18 of partnership with the Detroit Police Department

19 and the community.

20 As we have stated in the past, that is

21 accountability to a civilian oversight, that is

22 our goal, that is our theme that we want

23 accountability through civilian oversight.

24 So as we look forward to 2015 we're

25 going to be engaging, we're going to be just

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1 really more community awareness in terms of the

2 role of the Police Commission. We're going to

3 lay out an agenda. We haven't had a chance to

4 meet collectively, but there are some things

5 coming down the pike, this month you're going to

6 be hearing more about the role of the Board of

7 Police Commissioners, so we appreciate that.

8 It's my understanding that we have a

9 representative from the Mayor's office here. I'm

10 sorry.

11 Any individuals who we need to

12 recognize, ma'am? You're standing? There you

13 go, we're going to get it straightened out.

14 Thank you, okay. Any other elected official or

15 representative of an elected official?

16 Dr. Divers who stepped out, he's also from

17 Cushionberry's office. Good to have the

18 councilpeople in the house and we can now move to

19 hearing from the Chief of Police, Chief Craig.

20 CHIEF CRAIG: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

21 The only thing I'd like to report out on, first

22 of all I want to acknowledge our police officers,

23 our supervisors, managers and executives who are

24 a here today because what I want to talk about is

25 2014 crime stats and some read about it in the

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1 recent news, so will that can we in advance give

2 these men and women a round of applause?

3 (APPLAUSE).

4 CHIEF CRAIG: Clearly a notable

5 statistic that was reported out is last year we

6 ended the year with 300 homicides which in the

7 city of Detroit represents in 47 years the lowest

8 number of homicides which is big news.

9 That does not mean -- thank you. It

10 doesn't mean that our work is over. I said last

11 year when we ended the year with 333 homicides

12 which was a deduction from the year prior, in

13 comparison New York City who has 8 million

14 residents still too many.

15 And so our work continues, but we set a

16 goal at the beginning of the year of a 10 percent

17 overall reduction in crime, Part 1 crime, which

18 includes violent and property, and we exceeded

19 that goal with a 16.5 percent reduction.

20 Where we saw the steepest reduction was

21 in the area of robbery. I'd like to talk about

22 robbery because when we look at what drives fear

23 in our communities, it really is a crime of

24 robbery.

25 Typically a suspect who robs a victim,

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1 there's no connection, no acquaintance and those

2 are the crimes that really drive fear, whether

3 it's a robbery on the street or a carjacking

4 incident.

5 The good news is that we ended the year

6 with a 33 percent reduction in robbery and

7 carjacking I want to say it was 32 percent, so

8 all in all a good year, certainly a basis to move

9 forward for the year coming.

10 We did see another crime that's plagued

11 the city for many years is auto theft. We all

12 can relate to it who live in the city of Detroit,

13 given that we pay these high insurance rates, but

14 we did see an 18 percent reduction in auto theft

15 which translates into about 2,500 fewer vehicles

16 stolen in the City of Detroit.

17 So when you look at even comparing last

18 year's stats, 2014 to, say, 2012 even in homicide

19 we saw a 22 percent reduction. Certainly overall

20 violence in the city of Detroit comparing those

21 past two years was 28 percent.

22 So again we are moving in the right

23 direction. And while I talk a lot about the

24 police officer's, cop counts, and leadership

25 matters, certainly we could not have seen success

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1 without the help of our community.

2 Our community plays a big role. When

3 we look at our -- we have our Homicide captain

4 here who provides tremendous leadership to the

5 men and women who work diligently on many of

6 these cases. But we also give credit, much

7 credit, to our community. Had it not been for

8 them, we wouldn't have the clearance rate.

9 We all year had a 62 to 68 percent

10 clearance rate in homicide and compare that to

11 when we arrived -- when I arrived here very

12 different, and it's different because we have a

13 community now that works with this police

14 department.

15 So with that, again, I thank everyone

16 for that and now that we're in 2015 our work

17 continues, so I'll open it up for any questions

18 you might have?

19 COMMISSIONER BELL: Commissioners, any

20 question or concern in reference to the Chief's

21 report?

22 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Pardon me,

23 through the Chair. I really don't have any

24 questions, I just have a statement to make here

25 and it's not the department. I know they

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1 reported it in the media, that referred to 1967,

2 its stats, and I bring a point of reference

3 because I was here in the city in '67 as I am

4 here today.

5 As a matter of fact, during the

6 rebellion I was over on the east side in Mack and

7 Bewick. As reported in the media and I received

8 some calls about it and I had to assure people I

9 wasn't suffering from any mathematical anxiety,

10 the '67 numbers, population was 1.5 million, 18

11 homicides per 100,000, homicides of 287.

12 And as reported which I do think is

13 great, the reduction, I do thank all of those in

14 police department and community too for the

15 reduction of 2013, but those numbers given the

16 population of 688,701 according to the 2013

17 census which really I think is 700,000 people in

18 this city. The media has a problem with

19 counting. Those that count, they often times

20 miss some of the citizens in the city.

21 But given the fact that 300 last year

22 and that 44 per 100,000 homicides, 44 per

23 100,000, the population, and that was just an

24 issue of equating the reduction with what

25 occurred in 1967. It was a million and a half

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1 people here in the city of Detroit, so -- but I

2 do understand and respect greatly the reduction

3 and it is great work from the police officers and

4 the police department, the Chief, and also the

5 community.

6 COMMISSIONER BELL: Any others.

7 CHIEF CRAIG: Response through the

8 Chair?


10 CHIEF CRAIG: What I'd like to add just

11 a further detail analysis on the numbers, we

12 recognize that we were a smaller city in terms

13 of population, but there's some other factors

14 that are always overlooked when we start talking

15 about crimes per 100,000.

16 When we talk about Detroit in 1967 and

17 when I was here as a police officer in 1977

18 certainly we did have a larger population, more

19 police officers, but when you look at our poverty

20 level, we should never forget -- I don't care

21 what city it is -- cities with high poverty tend

22 to have high crime, and that's the reality.

23 But I think when you look at these

24 numbers, and while we're seeing a decline like

25 what you've seen in other large cities like you

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1 look at Los Angeles for example, a place I spend

2 tremendous time, or New York, when LA started its

3 crime decline it didn't happen overnight.

4 By way of example, I remember working

5 one station in LA, and LA has 22 stations, I

6 remember it was not uncommon in some of the more

7 busy commands that it would be anywhere between

8 100 and 150 homicides a year per one station.

9 And so -- but certainly with some

10 strategic response a change in philosophy things

11 started to turn around. I believe that we' are

12 poised to continue to drive this number down.

13 But what's interesting, when people

14 talk about Detroit on the national, they make it

15 out to be this very dangerous very violent place.

16 I'm going to say something that may

17 shock some. Detroit is no different than any

18 other large city and I'm going to tell you why.

19 When you look at this -- we did an analysis on

20 homicide and what was telling for me, out of 300

21 homicides 246 of the 300, the victim and suspect

22 were acquainted in some way.

23 That tells a very different story and

24 the story that I hope to leave you with is that

25 when you look at homicide, it's not random. It's

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1 not like we have violent predatory suspects

2 randomly shooting people on the street. Does it

3 happen, yes. Does it happen in other cities, yes

4 it does. So 246 some sort of acquaintance.

5 Stranger, of the 300 we determined that 39 were

6 strangers.

7 What was another telling stat that

8 certainly reinforced the great work that's going

9 on in the department in terms of investigative

10 follow-up, in 2014 there were 15 homicides that

11 we could not make a determination as to whether

12 it was a narcotic nexus, whether it was an

13 acquaintance, couldn't make the distinction.

14 What's interesting about that metric

15 when you look at the year prior in 2013 there

16 were 180 homicides that were undetermined.

17 In 2012, 238, so it reinforces this

18 notion that our community is working closely with

19 this police department in identifying those

20 responsible. So I wanted to share that with you

21 because I think it tells a different sorry about

22 Detroit.

23 Again we're not taking this solely as a

24 success because we know our work continues and as

25 long as we continue to work closely in

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1 partnership with our community I think we'll

2 dramatically decrease these violent crimes in the

3 city. Thank you.

4 COMMISSIONER BELL: Thank you, Chief.

5 I think no doubt about it that Detroiters feel

6 much safer in the last year or so and as we move

7 towards a safer community we just have to really

8 work and strive towards that.

9 I spent some time just in the last two

10 weeks in Memphis, Tennessee and when you're

11 talking about crime, you're talking about police

12 officers relocating and telling people not to

13 come to Memphis because of the benefits and you

14 look at New York in reference to officers

15 shutting down in certain precincts that these

16 officers involved, you look at basically LA where

17 they have sabotaged some equipment.

18 So I just want to commend the men and

19 women here in Detroit for their professionalism

20 as we go forward in terms of -- regardless of the

21 politics, regardless of the issues that -- the

22 bottom line is you protect and serve, and I just

23 want to really acknowledge that on behalf of the

24 Board that that's basically what it's all about.

25 We know about the low pay, the morale

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1 and all that, but because you raise your right

2 hand and you take an oath to serve, and I just

3 want to say I'm proud that I'm part of that

4 family of DPD as we move forward.

5 Just in the last couple of weeks we

6 have buried retired police officers. I have

7 attended funerals and the family just really we

8 just acknowledge the change in terms of the

9 Detroit PD, so I just wanted to share those brief

10 remarks with you.

11 And so we can move on with the agenda.

12 There's nothing else you want to report out,

13 Chief? I see Deputy Chief Hall is here.

14 Any other ranking officers or command

15 officers you want to acknowledge at this time.

16 Chief CRAIG: Actually we have several

17 command officers and Asst. Chief Dolunt, are you

18 still in the building?

19 COMMISSIONER BELL: He's always hiding

20 somewhere.

21 CHIEF CRAIG: Capt. Decker. If you

22 would quickly identify your command and who you

23 are starting with -- yes.

24 (VARIOUS COMMAND OFFICERS IDENTIFIED

25 THEMSELVES TO THE AUDIENCE.)

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1 COMMISSIONER BELL: Let's give them all

2 a round of applause.

3 (APPLAUSE.)

4 COMMISSIONER BELL: And before we

5 continue on the agenda, if this is your first

6 meeting as far as the civilian population, would

7 you just please stand. If this is your first

8 meeting of the Board of Police Commissioners

9 ever, please stand. You have more.

10 Let's give these people a round of

11 applause for coming out on an evening like this.

12 Thank you for coming out.

13 (APPLAUSE.)

14 COMMISSIONER BELL: She said Deputy

15 Chief Hall didn't stand.

16 DEP CHIEF HALL: I'm sorry, Deputy

17 Chief Hall. I want to make sure you're clearly

18 identified, okay, in terms of your service.

19 As we move forward, Item 12 would be

20 standing subcommittee, any subcommittee reports

21 at this time?

22 Under new business would be -- we have

23 a resolution tonight for, first of all, for

24 retired police officer Sidney Taylor, III. Is

25 Sidney Taylor here? I guess we need to pause --

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1 Capt. Balinski, you're going to come forward with

2 the 12th Precinct?

3 CAPT. BALINSKI: Through the Chair,

4 Capt. Ken Balinski of the 12th Precinct. I know

5 Commissioner Bell told me I have about 45

6 minutes, but I'm going to keep it short. I just

7 want to give you a little outline of what the 2th

8 Precinct is.

9 Because last year at this time I

10 addressed a new Board of Police Commissioners

11 because it was my first time coming up to the

12 podium to address, and at that time the 12th

13 Precinct was 11 square miles. Now the 12th

14 Precinct after redistricting the lines is 13

15 square miles, but as of that we still been able

16 to maintain double-digit crime reduction.

17 Our boundaries now are Eight Mile to

18 the north and south we go West McNichols, Fenkell

19 and the Lodge, west Greenfield, Schaefer and East

20 John R. and the Highland Park border.

21 Some of the known properties that we

22 have in the 12th Precinct are the Northwest

23 Activity Center, the Gateway market is now part

24 of the 12th Precinct. Last year it was part of

25 the 11th Precinct.

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1 And we know that anchor store there is

2 Meijers and several other stores

3 and the Detroit Golf Club.

4 The population in Number 12 is

5 approximately 81,500 persons. Other points of

6 interest we have 20 learning facilities in the

7 12th Precinct. We have four high schools, 14

8 elementary and middle schools and two centers of

9 higher learning, University of Detroit-Mercy and

10 Marygrove College.

11 Some of the things we've done in the

12 12th Precinct, we do have a Home Invasion Task

13 Force which again this year was successful

14 reducing home invasions by 20 percent and last

15 year it was above 20 percent also, so we're

16 seeing double-digit reductions in our home

17 invasions and we're going to continue to work to

18 that end to do it again.

19 Also, the neighborhood policing

20 officers on home invasion go out and talk to the

21 victims of the home invasions so maybe that they

22 can do a little survey of the home, see what kind

23 of security they need or can afford because

24 that's another issue that they're able to cover

25 for the person who's been victimized.

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1 Currently we have 14 12th Precinct

2 Youth Enforcement Explorers in our program. That

3 allows students to check out the career of a law

4 enforcement officer and I also want to have a

5 young gentleman who's at his first meeting is

6 from No. 12, he's one of our explorers.

7 Can you can introduce yourself? Go

8 ahead.

9 MR. MARTIN: My name is Justin Martin,

10 I'm a sergeant in the 2th Precinct Explorers

11 program. This is my first program, I'm 18 years

12 old.

13 (APPLAUSE.)

14 COMMISSIONER BELL: We can continue, I

15 think they're going to address that issue thank

16 you.

17 CAPT. BALINSKI: Just a side note of

18 our Explorers. I watched them yesterday doing

19 their drills and he is one good drill sergeant.

20 COMMISSIONER BELL: Are we going to

21 recruit him?

22 CAPT. BALINSKI: Absolutely. Currently

23 we're planning for Police Week and as part of

24 Police Week we try to bring in schools and people

25 into the precinct, introduce them to the officers

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1 to get them to know the officers.

2 August 4 this year is going to be our

3 National Night Out which we'll be celebrating the

4 police and the community working together.

5 And during the month of November, 2014

6 we distributed 16 turkeys to needy families and

7 in December the neighborhood policing officers

8 worked with the Old Newsboys Goodfellows and

9 handed out over 4,500 packages and we also do

10 Toys for Tots, but the feather in our cap this

11 year was Sgt. Santa, and that was a very

12 successful program for us.

13 I done know if Shirley Bledsoe, Sgt.

14 Bledsoe left out or not -- come out from behind

15 that wall, Sgt. And I want to thank her and our

16 neighborhood policing officers. They ended up

17 getting three barrels of toys and $1,200, I

18 believe it was $1,200 donation which ended up

19 being Number 1 in the city for the precincts for

20 No. 12.

21 (APPLAUSE.).

22 CAPT BALINSKI: So I thank the citizens

23 for helping us out with that, it was a great

24 time. Lastly, I just want to indicate that

25 through the hard work of the officers and the

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1 supervisors at the 12th Precinct we again had a

2 double-digit reduction in Part 1 crimes of 14

3 percent and that is another double-digit two

4 years in a row.

5 (APPLAUSE.)

6 COMMISSIONER BELL: Thank you, Captain.

7 COMMISSIONER MOORE: Through the Chair,

8 Captain, if a citizen wanted to get in contact

9 with you or one of your NPOs, what's the best

10 method?

11 CAPT. BALINSKI: All the NPOs and

12 myself have business cards, so when I meet

13 citizens and the NPOs do, they have business

14 cards which have their cell phone number on them,

15 it has their personal line number at work on it

16 and mine are the same way.

17 So they can contact me anytime. When I

18 give them my number at my desk, I don't give them

19 my clerk's number, I give them my number. So if

20 I'm not at my desk, they will get my voicemail

21 and I'll answer it.

22 COMMISSIONER MOORE: Thank you.

23 COMMISSIONER BELL: Any other questions

24 or concerns.

25 CHIEF CRAIG: Through the Chair, I

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1 don't know, Captain, are we making a presentation

2 to a Mrs. Maggie Williams-Hinton?

3 CAPT. BALINSKI: Yes.

4 COMMISSIONER BELL: I assume we can

5 pause on that note and we're going to have

6 Commissioner Moore address Officer Taylor -- I

7 did not -- I'm looking at the agenda, but I see

8 that on the resolution that he's deceased, so we

9 want to recognize him at this particular time in

10 terms of resolution.

11 COMMISSIONER MOORE: Yes,

12 Mr. Chairman, I'll read the last part.

13 NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the

14 Detroit Board of Police Commissioners speaking

15 for the citizens of Detroit and the Detroit

16 Police Department award this resolution

17 posthumously to Police Officer Sidney Taylor, III

18 for his dedicated and diligent public service.

19 His professionalism, integrity and standard of

20 commitment to the city of Detroit and its

21 citizens merit out highest regards.

22 We thank and salute you, Officer Sidney

23 Taylor, III for a job well done. Detroit Board

24 of Police Commissioners.


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1 Commissioner Moore. Could we have a moment of

2 silence in honor of Officer Sidney Taylor?

3 (MOMENT OF SILENCE.)

4 COMMISSIONER BELL: Thank you. And now

5 we have a resolution to recognize Mrs. Maggie

6 Williams-Hinton, so Commissioner Carter is going

7 to do the honors. Would you please come forward?

8 (APPLAUSE.)

9 COMMISSIONER CARTER: Resolution

10 honoring Mrs. Maggie Williams-Hinton.

11 WHEREAS, Mrs. Maggie Williams-Hinton is

12 a dedicated and committed supporter of the city

13 of Detroit's 12th Precinct she has been a member

14 of the 12th Precinct Community Relations Council

15 and the Cherrylawn Block Club for over 20 years.

16 Her commitment to helping business and

17 providing service and leadership is exemplified

18 throughout the community and

19 WHEREAS, Mrs. Williams-Hinton is an

20 unsung hero and stalwart in the 12th Precinct and

21 surrounding communities. She is the CEO and

22 proud owner of the Maggie Lee's Community Center

23 which provides a safe haven for the children in

24 her neighborhood. The center holds Angel Night's

25 activities and provides a meeting place for the

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1 volunteers of the Motor City Makeover Program.

2 It is also the site for other events involving

3 our youth.

4 In her business capacity, Mrs.

5 Williams-Hinton employs residents who live within

6 her community. She enables them and supports

7 their families. Mrs. Williams-Hinton

8 consistently goes beyond the call of an employer

9 by being a mentor, friend and counselor and

10 WHEREAS, Mrs. Williams-Hinton is well

11 known for her activism and organizing skills. In

12 an effort to combat bullying, she implemented a

13 No More Bullying Awareness Program.

14 The youth who participate in the

15 program are actively recruited with assistance of

16 the local neighborhood police officer, NPO. This

17 summer the No Tolerance Crime Program will be

18 implemented to encourage all residents and

19 business owners to keep their community clean.

20 The program is also designed to give

21 our youth an opportunity to live without fear of

22 crime.

23 NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the

24 Detroit Board of Police Commissioners speaking on

25 behalf of the citizens of the city of Detroit and

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1 the Detroit Police Department acknowledge the

2 unmistakable spirit and community service of

3 Mrs. Maggie Williams-Hinton. Her willingness to

4 give her time and to provide a safe haven for our

5 youth has been an invaluable asset to the 12th

6 Precinct and beyond.

7 We thank and congratulate you,

8 Mrs. Maggie Williams-Hinton, the Detroit Board of

9 Police Commissioners. Accountability through

10 civilian oversight.

11 (APPLAUSE).

12 CHIEF CRAIG: On behalf of the police

13 department first we'd like to present you a

14 certificate of recognition for all of your great

15 work in the community working with our NPOs.

16 Let's give her a round of applause.

17 (APPLAUSE.)

18 CHIEF CRAIG: And on behalf of the

19 Detroit City Council I present Ms. Maggie

20 Williams-Hinton the Spirit of Detroit Award.

21 And what it states is presented

22 herewith as an expression of gratitude and esteem

23 of the citizens of Detroit in recognition for

24 exceptional achievement, outstanding leadership

25 and dedication to improving the quality of life,

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1 signed by each of -- Brenda Jones, Council

2 President, and the remaining council.

3 Congratulations.

4 (APPLAUSE.)

5 COMMISSIONER BELL: Ms. Hinton, you can

6 grab the mic and you can give your two-minute

7 speech.

8 MS. WILLIAMS-HINTON: Thank you, I

9 thought I would get away with that, but I really

10 appreciate you, thank you so much, thank you so

11 much. We're having so many problems and any way

12 that we all can help to charge the culture of our

13 youth and we're starting at -- at my center, from

14 seven years to 19 years old.

15 I have changed culture for some of the

16 kids that was going to jump out of high school,

17 they graduated from high school and they got

18 their own business. What they're doing is that

19 they're -- they have their own barbecue, fried

20 chicken and fish, so they making their money, so

21 they got their business.

22 We got seven year olds playing with

23 guns and the parents don't know. We had a seven

24 year old -- no, he was nine years old and he

25 brought a play gun to the center and I knew that

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1 he did that as some of the other children his

2 age, they came out of the bathroom looking

3 wide-eyed so I had to check on that.

4 Found out he had a gun, but it was a

5 play gun, but, see, kids start at seven years

6 old. Parents, neighbors have to watch these

7 children. They got to get the children involved

8 in something that -- outside of letting them roam

9 the streets by themselves. You found when they

10 roam the streets by themselves they get pulled

11 over to get in gangs, and these kids, they're

12 scared. Some of them don't want to get involved

13 in the gangs and some don't know what to do.

14 But with the programs like changing the

15 culture program the kids will have a choice.

16 When they come over to the program at my center

17 which I'm begging for some more funds this year,

18 Wayne County has not got any funds for me this

19 year, but it's a good program for kids.

20 After school they do their homework,

21 they have a martial arts program and the martial

22 arts program is giving them discipline that they

23 need that they don't get at home.

24 I invite you all to come to my center

25 and look at the kids and if you can find some

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1 money for me to continue this program, I would

2 appreciate that too because we do need -- we need

3 sponsors and we need supervisors and instructors

4 to help guide these kids where they need to be.

5 Thank you. There's lots more to it,

6 but I appreciate you and I appreciate everything

7 and I really appreciate you. Thank you very

8 much.

9 (APPLAUSE.)

10 COMMISSIONER BELL: And thank you, well

11 deserved. The Chair would entertain a motion to

12 receive the two resolutions for Officer Taylor

13 and Mrs. Maggie Williams-Hinton at this

14 particular time.

15 COMMISSIONER MOORE: So moved.

16 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Support.


18 moved and seconded. Are we ready for the

19 question? Those in favor, aye?



22 Motion carried. And the next item would be Item

23 2 under new business, Directive 204.3, Operating

24 While Intoxicating and we all should pay

25 attention to this particular directive because we

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1 know the impact of people driving intoxicated,

2 but not the people here, but we want to make sure

3 you're aware of the directive.

4 LT. MURCESON: Good morning -- I mean

5 good evening. When it's that cold outside you

6 bring out the tendency to freeze.

7 Board Chair, Commissioners, citizens,

8 distinguished guests, members of the Detroit

9 Police Department, I'm Lt. Murceson in charge of

10 our Planning and Deployment Unit, and on behalf

11 of the Detroit Police Department we wish to

12 present to the Board an up-to-date policy

13 guideline to keep our streets save from the

14 impaired drivers operating motor vehicles while

15 intoxicated.

16 The policy outlines the administrative

17 rules set forth by the Michigan Department of

18 State Police, Alcohol Enforcement Unit as well as

19 how investigations and reports shall be completed

20 by DPD members.

21 The two major aspects of the policy

22 changes fall under equipment operation and

23 interpretation and processing of blood alcohol

24 results.

25 Under equipment operation, it's going

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1 to be required that personnel authorized to use

2 the Datamaster machine and the PBT test units be

3 certified by the State of Michigan. Also the

4 certified PBT which is the small units that

5 officers use out on the street will be

6 responsible for the preventative maintenance of

7 the PBT instruments while they're used in testing

8 the individual suspected of operating the motor

9 vehicles.

10 For evidentiary purposes the larger

11 units, the blood alcohol contact Datamaster

12 machines which is used at our detention center,

13 the accuracy of those units is going to be

14 required to be increased by about a 1000th of a

15 percent. So those machines are going to be

16 having to be more accurate given this policy

17 guideline.

18 As it relates to the blood alcohol

19 content, the test results, individuals with blood

20 alcohol content between .08 and .16 will be

21 arrested for operating a motor vehicle while

22 intoxicated under the City of Detroit's code as

23 opposed to the state regulatory rules.

24 So in that way the City of Detroit is

25 going to actually receive more money for those

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1 fines. The fines is going to be between $100 and

2 $500 for blood alcohol content between that

3 level.

4 However, the blood alcohol content of

5 0.17 or above shall still be prosecuted under the

6 state law where the fine can be between $200 and

7 $700. Blood alcohol content under .08 from

8 individuals displaying great impairment are to be

9 conveyed to Detroit Receiving Hospital where

10 chemical tests will be required -- will be

11 requested. Individuals can still refuse that

12 test. However, their license will be suspended

13 automatically for 12 months.

14 In the event that the blood alcohol

15 content is .30 or higher they shall be

16 automatically conveyed to the Detroit Receiving

17 Hospital.

18 Those outline the major changes of this

19 policy guidelines. If everything taken together

20 we thought it would be best for the Board to

21 review the policy guidelines which if you don't

22 have a copy of that guideline I have some here if

23 you just let me know and I will give you one.

24 At this point does the Board have any

25 questions?

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1 COMMISSIONER BELL: Any questions or

2 concern at this time from the board. If there's

3 no action to be taken, I guess the action would

4 be to receive this report. Commissioner White?

5 COMMISSIONER WHITE: Thank you,

6 Mr. Chair, just a point of information. First

7 and foremost, thank you, lieutenant, for a very

8 informative report.

9 Mr. Chair, I guess my point of

10 information would raise, is it the department's

11 intent to provide this as information or is it

12 the intent that at some point we would vote to

13 approve this policy directive change?

14 LT. MURCESON: Yes, please digest the

15 contents of the proposal and we will ask for you

16 at a later date to approve it, but once you have

17 received that document we will then post it on

18 the department Internet and we'll also give you

19 the results of that posting too at that time when

20 we ask you to pass the policy changes.

21 COMMISSIONER BELL: Commissioner White,

22 any further response?

23 COMMISSIONER WHITE: Not at this time,

24 Mr. Chair.

25 COMMISSIONER BELL: Any other

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1 Commissioners. So, I guess Commissioners, we

2 should formulate a motion to receive this

3 document and I guess at some point in time we

4 would be asked to approve this document, but not

5 tonight. It could be 30 days, you're going to

6 post it and we can weigh in on it at a future

7 meeting perhaps if we have any questions or

8 concerns.

9 You might want to come back before this

10 body if we have some concern prior to. Would

11 that be appropriate?

12 LT. MURCESON: Yes, sir, please.

13 SECRETARY ANTHONY: Mr. Chair, there is

14 no need to motion, we can just receive the

15 document.

16 COMMISSIONER BELL: Okay, thank you,

17 sir. The Board Secretary has spoken, we're just

18 going to receive it.

19 LT. MURCESON: Thank you.

20 COMMISSIONER BELL: Thank you. Old

21 business, any old business before this body by

22 the Commissioners.

23 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Yes, sir,

24 through the Chair. Four weeks ago Ms. Tonya

25 Wells attended our community meeting or the Board

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1 of Police Commissioners meeting in the community.

2 At that time she stood before the

3 podium and stated before this board and all who

4 were there that some police officer pointed a gun

5 to her head on a traffic stop. Two weeks ago,

6 our last meeting, we all looked at the video that

7 was presented to us thanks to the department and

8 it was a dashcam video that was available and to

9 say the least Ms. Wells misrepresented the truth.

10 I'm being nice here.

11 It was definitely a misrepresentation

12 of the truth. Having been a police officer for a

13 number of years and all of those who are and have

14 been understand the anxiety that one may go

15 through during an investigation, particularly

16 when they didn't do anything wrong.

17 And also too there's some communication

18 her as to whether or not she filed a report or

19 not or statements were made and I know if she

20 filed an official report, perhaps she could you

21 charged with filing a false report.

22 I think we need to have our attorney

23 research that. If not, if she can't be charged

24 with filing a false report, perhaps the Board

25 needs to send a letter to Ms. Wells, you know,

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1 stating the outcome of this investigation and

2 also too in the future if she makes such

3 misrepresentation of the truth before this Board

4 or in any area against a police officer, then

5 there should be some sort of repercussions.

6 So I think that we need to do as a

7 Board some sort of research as to what can be

8 done.

9 Also too recently I heard the Mayor

10 state he supports body cams for police officers.

11 I'm so glad that the Mayor has come out with a

12 statement because this Board back in the summer

13 and for months have -- a number of -- I'll say a

14 number of Board members have advocated that. And

15 something the Chief often or recently has spoke

16 about, expanding a narrative. The federal

17 government or specifically President Obama signed

18 an executive order for all police departments to

19 report to the Justice Department any sort of

20 police shootings of citizens and it even goes a

21 little bit beyond that.

22 I don't know and haven't heard -- I

23 have heard of some in the media of officers who

24 have been assaulted by citizens in the city of

25 Detroit, most notably the one who was cut with a

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1 razor in the face. Also too the one that a pit

2 bull was put upon. I don't know if -- well, I

3 know the department does track assaults because

4 definitely if a police officer is assaulted then

5 they will get a warrant and charge that

6 individual and rightfully so.

7 But in terms of -- using the Chief's

8 terminology -- expanding the narrative and also

9 bringing about this balance since, you know,

10 assaults or fatal shootings or non-fatal

11 shootings by officers upon citizens should be --

12 the opposite too, assaults on the officers by

13 citizens should definitely be tracked and there

14 should -- well, I know there's some

15 accountability, I don't think -- that's not even

16 a question here.

17 But getting back to the video with

18 Ms. Wells, had it been the other way around and

19 the media would have FOIA'd that video, it would

20 have been on 2, 4, 7 at 6, 11 and 10 o'clock,

21 also in all the papers.

22 My friend Ron Scott from the Coalition

23 Against Police Brutality, he would probably be

24 marching on the precinct and I may have joined

25 them too.

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1 But just to indicate that it is a

2 serious issue and also to Albuquerque, New Mexico

3 Saturday morning 3 AM, there was a police officer

4 wearing a body cam stopped a vehicle, a SUV with

5 tinted windows, approached the vehicle, the door

6 opened, the man fired a number of shots, shot the

7 officer in the leg.

8 The officer went down -- I mean, they

9 closed the door back to the vehicle, he couldn't

10 start it and that officers fired a number of

11 shots into that vehicle. The individual couldn't

12 get the vehicle started and he came out and of

13 course he ran away.

14 And the officer by the grace of God is

15 okay, but it just had all of that crystal clear

16 in that video as to what happened, not only that

17 but it was a great description too.

18 So in reference to -- getting back here

19 -- to those two officers who Ms. Wells filed a

20 complaint against, I think this Board needs to

21 send them some sort of communique too as to

22 being very professional and having the courage

23 and continue doing the great job that they're

24 doing out there in the community for this city.


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1 Commissioner Crawford. You addressed two issues.

2 One is Mrs. Wells' video that we witnessed that

3 perhaps the Board Secretary could look --

4 I don't know if there was any reference to

5 follow-up on that with the Chief. I don't know

6 if there was any formal complaint, we can look

7 into that.

8 The second item, you raised the issue

9 about the Mayor, I guess the Chief, some remarks

10 in the media in reference to the body cam. I

11 don't know if the Chief wants to elaborate, but

12 we had a pilot program last year that went

13 extremely well so I would give the mic to Chief

14 Craig if he wants to respond to the body cam.

15 CHIEF CRAIG: Yes, as was pointed out,

16 Mr. Chair, we had a successful pilot. The Mayor

17 and I today met with those involved in the pilot

18 as part of our effort to move forward with a full

19 deployment.

20 At this point we're still working out

21 how we would deploy body cams, but certainly the

22 Mayor and I are in full support of equipping

23 officers with the on-body cameras.

24 COMMISSIONER BELL: Okay. Is that to

25 your satisfaction, Mr. Commissioner?

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1 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Oh, yes, sir.


3 COMMISSIONER MALLETT: The Commissioner

4 raised a question about the communication back to

5 the officers who were the subject of Ms. Wells'

6 complaint indicating that we should send a

7 letter.

8 I would assume that as a result of our

9 investigation some formal -- some kind of formal

10 communication with the officers who were involved

11 is a matter of course, is that not correct?

12 COMMISSIONER BELL: Okay, Chief

13 Investigator Drake?

14 CHIEF INV. DAVIS-DRAKE: Thank you,

15 Mr. Chair and good evening, Board. In answer to

16 the question, yes. First of all, Ms. Wells did

17 request that an investigation be conducted

18 through our office prior to her coming to the

19 Board meeting.

20 We did make a determination in that

21 matter and given the videotape it is quite clear

22 what our determination will be. There are

23 letters that go out to not only the officers that

24 are involved, but also the citizen once the case

25 has been completed and the Board has time to

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1 review the document.

2 COMMISSIONERS MALLETT: Okay, thank

3 you.

4 CHIEF INV. DAVIS-DRAKE: You're welcome.

5 COMMISSIONER BELL: Commissioner, are

6 you satisfied with the explanation?

7 COMMISSIONER MALLETT: I am, thank you

8 very much, Mr. Chairman.

9 SECRETARY ANTHONY: Thank you, sir.

10 SECRETARY ANTHONY: I think the

11 Commissioner also mentioned something about

12 perhaps it being a criminal matter. As a general

13 rule, filing a false police report only regards

14 filing it to a sworn law enforcement officer our

15 9-1-1 station.

16 This would not fit being a civilian

17 investigative body.


19 Mr. Secretary. We're satisfied with the

20 explanation that's been given, okay.

21 We can move on if there's no other old

22 business to come before the body we are at the

23 point in time in terms of announcement.

24 Our next Board community meeting will

25 take place on February 12, 2015, Matrix Human

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1 Services Center, at 6:30 PM and that's 13560 East

2 McNichols on the east side of Detroit, that's

3 near Gratiot and Six Mile and hopefully you have

4 an agenda that were cover that item.

5 Our next meeting would be next

6 Thursday, January 15, at 3 PM at the Public

7 Safety Headquarters 1301 Third Avenue and I would

8 love to see more people attending our meeting at

9 the Public Safety Building at 3:30. We have low

10 attendance. I would hope if your schedule

11 permits that you would come out in that time

12 frame to meet at 3 o'clock. That's when we have

13 our ongoing meeting at Public Safety and there's

14 free parking and it's a really nice facility.

15 I would told in the past that we had a

16 tremendous turnout in the old 1300 Beaubien, but

17 it's not the case in our new building and we have

18 free parking.

19 So I don't know how we can attract more

20 people. Maybe we can do more public service

21 announcements and more newsletters, more website

22 and through word of mouth get more attendees

23 because we have a very -- I think we average less

24 than 10 people coming out for those meetings, and

25 that's another business opportunity where you can

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1 see the operation of the Board of Police

2 Commissioners and the Detroit Police Department

3 and Chief Craig in terms of the interaction that

4 we want to try to encourage in 2015.

5 In your newsletter that the Board

6 Secretary is circulating, I hope that you have a

7 copy of that, the Commission hasn't had a chance

8 to weigh in on it, but they know we've been

9 engaging religious leaders and activists who want

10 to see the Board's power and authority restored

11 under the 2012 Detroit City Charter.

12 Detroit Pastoral Alliance for Change

13 DPAC has called a press conference for next week

14 to announce, among other things, to support a

15 fully empowered Board of Police Commissioners.

16 DPAC is also expected to talk about the American

17 call for more police officer accountability and

18 law enforcement oversight. We welcome that type

19 of involvement.

20 There's also going to be a forum on

21 January 20 we will circulate more information for

22 the Commissioners to come out for the press

23 conference and also for the prayer activities and

24 also for the public.

25 We just now -- this has just been

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1 formalized this week and I'm glad it's getting

2 off the ground in terms of community support, so

3 that is in your newsletter and we're going to

4 have -- they're going to have a press conference

5 and we are going to be supportive of that effort.

6 I will be sharing that information as

7 soon as tomorrow in reference to the Board of

8 Police Commissioners coming out if they care to

9 in terms of attending that press conference with

10 all the details, but that's something that they

11 just worked on this week in terms of formulating

12 that.

13 So that's the announcements. I also on

14 a sad note want to acknowledge and our prayers

15 and condolence to Commissioner Reginald Crawford

16 in terms of the passing of his mother this week

17 and the funeral is going to be on Saturday

18 morning at Ebenezer Church on Dequindre, that is

19 Bishop Vann's church.

20 The funeral is going to be at 9:30, the

21 family hour is going to be at 9. We offer our

22 condolence to Commissioner Crawford. I didn't

23 anticipate him coming this evening, but it's good

24 to see him and surely he's needing your prayers

25 and support in terms of this condolence in terms

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1 of his mother's service this coming Saturday

2 morning, who keep him and the family in our

3 prayers and support, so we offer that.

4 Now comes to Item 16 would be oral

5 communication from the audience. You have two

6 minutes. We are somewhat liberal with that, but

7 we hope that you stay on point and don't make a

8 commentary note of that, so I can please come

9 forward to the mic.

10 Clearly identify yourself, be

11 respectful and we are respectful to you and give

12 you that time frame. As I stated in the past,

13 unlike the Council, you don't have to sign up for

14 it, you just show up and you get the mic. I

15 think that's one of the luxuries of having this

16 Board of Commissioners in terms of engaging in

17 the community.

18 I see a couple of people,

19 representative from Council President Jones'

20 office there. Yes, sir.

21 MR. WILSON: Good evening. My name is

22 -- I'm the -- and sometimes infamous depending

23 upon who you talk to Tom Wilson, or as I sign my

24 letters to the editor Thomas A. Wilson, Jr.

25 What I'd like to say is this. In terms

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1 of when Mr. Orr finished his job as emergency

2 manager Mr. Orr gave powers back to the City

3 Council, he gave powers back to the Mayor, but he

4 left you all unempowered and I think that it's

5 wrong. You all should have the same kind of

6 powers that the City's bible, which is the City

7 Charter, gave you when they redid the Charter and

8 we voted for it back in 2012 or whenever.

9 And another thing, in regards to -- and

10 I've said this before -- in regards to the

11 position of Police Chief, personally I think it

12 should be an elected position because Chief Craig

13 could have the greatest plan in terms of fighting

14 crime since high button shoes and sliced bread,

15 but if he doesn't go in synch with the Mayor,

16 well, is he going to bite the hand that feeds him

17 or is he just going to go ahead and try and ride

18 off in the sunset and go somewhere else.

19 But I mean I often say this, I'm a

20 small fish in a big pond and David Brinkley

21 called in a book that says I have an opinion and

22 you're entitled to it.

23 But, you know, and then my last

24 statement is this. In terms of the crime going

25 down, Chief Craig, and Detroit finest, I have the

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1 utmost respect for you and you all are a

2 different breed of people, just like teachers

3 which I was a former teacher, I retired, but they

4 do what is a thankless job and, you know, but

5 when -- as long as things are going right you

6 think someone is going to pat them on the back,

7 but you let one person, one police officer, go

8 out and do something wrong, they want to grab

9 that big old broad brush and they want to say all

10 of them are like that, and that is far from the

11 truth.

12 I would say 99.44 100 percent of those

13 police officers when they get up in the morning

14 and don that badge and put that blue uniform on,

15 they leave, they want to go home and come back

16 home just like I do, and I have the utmost

17 respect for you all and the job you do.

18 And let us meaning -- this is no

19 Ferguson, this is not us versus them, this is

20 Detroit. As Paul Harvey says this is how we do

21 it in the D. We've got to have cooperation. I

22 mean -- I mean -- okay, I'm going to wrap it up.

23 Are things where we want it, no, it's not where

24 we want it, but there's always room for

25 improvement.

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1 But like I said, I have the utmost

2 respect to you and the department and the

3 community. We will continue to work together and

4 we will continue to bring those crime statistics

5 down; thank you.

6 (APPLAUSE.)

7 COMMISSIONER BELL: Thank you, sir,

8 for your remarks; appreciate it. Yes, ma'am.

9 MS. DOBBINS: Good evening. My name is

10 Vicki Dobbins, I'm from River Rouge. Thank you

11 to the Chief and to the Commission for accepting

12 my comment tonight.

13 We just selected the River Rouge Chief

14 of Police, first African-American female

15 downriver ever, okay. I just wanted to bring

16 that to your attention. I'm quite sure you know

17 it, but at the same time we need to give her the

18 most utmost support. That lady is going to need

19 so much support, not only from River Rouge and

20 Ecorse and the downriver area, but also from

21 previous Wayne County Sheriff that she has worked

22 for before in her lifetime.

23 So, again, I would just like to say

24 please don't forget our Chief of Police, her name

25 in Debra Price-Allen. Thank you so much for

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1 having me, okay, and Chief.

2 COMMISSIONER BELL: Thank you, and

3 please invite your Chief to come out and attend

4 one of our meetings, I will receive her and we

5 would appreciate it and welcome her. I'm pretty

6 sure Chief Craig will be willing to work with her

7 and helping her in any way that he possible can,

8 also the Board of Police Commissioners.

9 Yes, sir.

10 MR. CABACARONS: Greetings, honorable

11 Board and Chief. My name is Kenneth Cabacarons.

12 I'm the president of Metro Detroit Cab Drivers

13 Association.

14 First and foremost the association would

15 like to give our condolences to losing your

16 mother. I know I always -- I open up my mouth

17 sometimes and I hear my grandmother speaking to

18 me, so -- but I'm going to say this. It's good to

19 see you here, specially in light of what's going

20 on in your life.

21 But down to the business at hand. I

22 have letters here that we had sent out. We have

23 some serious issues that are going on with law

24 enforcement and the cab drivers. We have already

25 been and we've talked, there was supposed to have

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1 been a line of communication open, supposed to

2 have been a moratorium that was dealing with

3 citations and, Chief, that has not been

4 happening, you know.

5 So we have a situation that, you know,

6 we know you got a hard job. Law enforcement has

7 a hard job, but we also know that black

8 businesses matter in this city and we're talking

9 about -- you're talking about entrepreneurs that

10 are cab drivers.

11 We're being shut down by Uber, they

12 have come in here that we believe that is being

13 illegal. We have outside entities that are

14 looking at the internal operating agreement that

15 was signed by this city. So what we're trying to

16 do is first and foremost let's get down to the

17 issues at hand.

18 Public vehicles license, we asked you

19 to take the driver's license off the front so it

20 wouldn't be identity theft; that didn't happen,

21 and y'all said you was going to do it.

22 You said the lines of communications

23 was going to be open; that hasn't happened. We

24 have reached out to your department, to your

25 office, and we haven't been getting any response.

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1 We asked that our public vehicle

2 license be extended until February 1st because of

3 the fact that Public Vehicles Department didn't

4 start issuing licenses until the 15th of December

5 and then the last week of December 36th District

6 Court was closed where we couldn't get our public

7 vehicles clearance, so we're asking for an

8 extension on that.

9 We're also in the midst of the North

10 American International Auto Show. Starting

11 Sunday will be press week. When we had our

12 meeting with you at the church in October you

13 said you have never been to a city that didn't

14 have a -- they always had a cab stand outside

15 their convention center. We don't have that.

16 So we would like to see and humbly

17 request that there's a special event cab stand

18 not only at Cobo, but at any other major function

19 that's going on. So we are -- I believe I've

20 covered the major issues, special events, but we

21 still want that line of communications open

22 because when you had it, at least we had --

23 because, brother, you know you being the general,

24 you're the Chief of Police. I'm a military man

25 and when you have the general, you give out the

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1 orders and the orders aren't carried out by the

2 troops, there seem to me that -- I don't know and

3 this is me speaking -- but that's a lack of

4 respect for the leadership.

5 So we need to go ahead and start

6 getting to the point of -- because we got these

7 guys -- we got people that are getting $1,500

8 worth of tickets at one time. That is -- how is

9 a small businessperson supposed to survive

10 because your license is in jeopardy, that means

11 that your livelihood. Used to be that being a

12 transporter or cab driver was the middle class,

13 you're entry level to middle class. It's not

14 happening like that. We're being pushed out of

15 downtown Detroit.

16 So what is this -- is it being

17 capitalist, racism or is it being economic

18 regenefication.

19 COMMISSIONER BELL: Okay, sir --

20 MR. CABACARONS: What's going -- I

21 mean, I understand, sir. I mean, I'm trying to

22 show -- and I'm being nice because I know that

23 there's people here out of the church, but I

24 really want to say it the way the membership

25 wants me to say it, but I'm being nice with that,

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1 but I appreciate your time.

2 So what I'm going to do is who do I

3 need to give a copy -- I see the 2nd Deputy Chief

4 Washington isn't here.

5 COMMISSIONER BELL: Well, you're

6 addressing the Board, so if you're going to share

7 that with the Board Secretary and share it with

8 the Board of Commissioners, and I think the Chief

9 wants to respond in terms of your remarks in

10 terms of the line of communication.

11 I know this is a serious issue for the

12 cab drivers and I know you've been before the

13 Council, you've met with the Chief. I think

14 somewhere along the line the buck probably has

15 stopped with the Mayor. On some issues you raise

16 about cab stand, the whole protocol, so maybe you

17 need to address not just the Council, but the

18 Mayor of Detroit. Some of those issues falls

19 within his territory, perhaps you need to maybe

20 start from the top.

21 But Chief Craig probably wants to

22 respond and I'll give the mic to him at this

23 time.

24 CHIEF CRAIG: It is a fact that we did

25 meet in October. This is a first time I've heard

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1 of any grievances you had. You have not reached

2 out to my office, at least it didn't come to my

3 attention.

4 At this meeting I remind you that the

5 city attorney was present as well as other

6 members of not only the Mayor's staff, but a full

7 room, open lines of communication. There was

8 follow-up plans, there was a moratorium placed.

9 I can't give you an up to date, but I can tell

10 you with certainty you did not reach out to my

11 office.

12 If the line of communications stop post

13 October, then my suggestion would have been you

14 should have reached out to my office and we could

15 have conducted a follow-up.

16 I know that Deputy Chief Hall was here

17 -- is she still here.

18 MR. CABACARONS: Well, Washington was

19 our point person.

20 CHIEF CRAIG: And Capt. Petty who works

21 in the 1st Precinct, so again I open the door for

22 follow-up, but you have not reached out

23 post-October. So when you make statements that

24 the lines of communication have been severed I

25 would offer that I disagree.

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1 They're open and I would be willing to

2 meet with you and my staff in the coming week.

3 You can certainly contact my office and we'll set

4 that up.

5 MR. CABACARONS: Okay, well,

6 understand, sir, we have reached out to 2nd

7 Deputy Chief Washington and there was ongoing up

8 until Thanksgiving, but the point being, sir, and

9 I'm not saying --

10 CHIEF CRAIG: There was communication

11 --

12 MR. CABACARONS: But understand with

13 the moratorium with my phone ringing off the hook

14 all times of the time with these guys getting

15 tickets and I'm not trying to hold this up, sir,

16 but it's like the moratorium, the drivers have

17 been undue -- it's still abuse, it's still abuse.

18 So I will hopefully once Sister

19 Washington called me yesterday --

20 CHIEF CRAIG: So there was

21 communication as recently as yesterday.

22 MR. CABACARONS: She called me

23 yesterday and we weren't able to sit down there,

24 but she wants -- I got the tickets in my

25 briefcase that I will leave with whoever you tell

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1 me.

2 COMMISSIONER BELL: Okay, sir, could we

3 close this out?

4 MR. CABACARONS: We can.

5 COMMISSIONER BELL: The Chief is going

6 to establish communication, he made it quite

7 clear, so I assume that's going to be tomorrow

8 morning that you communication with the Chief's

9 office and I'm pretty sure he's a man of his own

10 words in terms of responding to you.

11 So could we close this out and give

12 somebody else the opportunity --

13 MR. CABACARONS: Then I will say this

14 though, that the association is definitely is in

15 support that there's civilian oversight and has

16 its power back that comes into play, because we

17 don't want the fox guarding the hen house here.

18 Thank you, sir.

19 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Excuse me,

20 through the Chair because I know months back and

21 I was also in that meeting, the particular one

22 you're talking about I went to and you and I have

23 communicated too.

24 Some of your grievances were resolved

25 back a few months ago and now there seems to be

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1 kind of a --

2 MR. CABACARONS: There was a moratorium

3 and there's still talk going on, but I'm totally

4 in agreement with what Commissioner Bell is

5 saying in that I see it's going to have to come

6 from the top.

7 We tried to work this out through the

8 department and it's not working, so we're going

9 to have to go and the buck, it has to stop with

10 the Mayor.

11 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: But most

12 importantly here, I know the auto show starts in

13 a week or so.

14 MR. CABACARONS: Sunday.

15 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Sunday and that

16 is big -- that is probably the biggest period for

17 cabs in the city and also too I know the biggest

18 limo night, you can't given get a limo at that

19 black tie event.

20 MR. CABACARONS: So hopefully we'll be

21 able to get this worked out.

22 COMMISSIONER BELL: Yes, sir and

23 perhaps Commissioner Crawford could still be that

24 liaison on behalf of the Board in terms of what

25 impact we might have. Perhaps he can still weigh

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1 in on it in reference to the Chief's office, the

2 Mayor's office, whatever endeavors that we might

3 have.

4 I understand the nature of your concern

5 has been quite pressing, but make sure you keep

6 those lines of communication and your

7 documentation and etc in reference to the Chief's

8 office in terms of -- and keep us informed, keep

9 us in the loop and we'll try our best to try to

10 get a response.

11 MR. CABACARONS: We're going to start

12 making more of the meetings over at -- wherever

13 we need to be.


15 sir. Any others?

16 MR. JONES: Good evening, Board. My

17 name is Daniel Jones. I part of the cab

18 association too. I just received 10 tickets as a

19 cab driver. I can no longer drive a cab. I have

20 a CDL, I can't even get my CDL license now, I'm

21 out of work.

22 COMMISSIONER BELL: Duly noted, sir and

23 I'm pretty sure that the gentleman is going to

24 address those concerns.

25 Any other comments?

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1 MR. CUMMINGS: Good evening,

2 Commissioners, happy new year. My name is Marcus

3 Cummings. I'm the current vice-president of

4 Schaefer Lodge Association. Welcome to District

5 2. Thank you for being here.

6 Our president, Mr. Winfred Blackman,

7 and I'm not sure if he's coming up tonight, will

8 be coming to address the issues that we have with

9 medical marijuana, this new endeavor we seek

10 through the State with their shops and the

11 enforcement and how do we go about that and I

12 will let him speak to that.

13 I'm here tonight to say, one, I want to

14 applaud the police department for their hard

15 work. I definitely want to applaud our captain

16 who is the most successful captain, between him

17 and I've had the honor of volunteering at No. 11,

18 Capt. Balinski and Capt. Leach are probably two

19 of the most successful captains I've met in this

20 department and they do a lot in terms of their

21 community work and they are outstanding.

22 The issue that we though see in the

23 community is not with the department but with the

24 breakdown in the criminal justice system here in

25 Wayne County.

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1 And we're wondering if this Commission

2 will be reaching out to our sheriff's department,

3 our prosecutor's office and also our state

4 legislature.

5 It's unfortunate we had a horrible

6 shooting on Norfolk and Roselawn, a young man was

7 set to testify in an armed robbery case. His

8 house was shot up, he was killed.

9 The detectives in the 12th Precinct

10 worked hard, they caught the assailants in that

11 case, those assailants were given a very low

12 bond.

13 The issue that we have is how someone

14 like Mr. Campbell can get a $300,000 bond here in

15 Wayne County but people who are out murdering

16 people get off for about $2,500 and then I go

17 back and then they shoot more people.

18 And this is problem, we have the

19 revolving door of injustice in Wayne County and

20 we hope that this Commission will meet with our

21 other elected officials to work on legislation

22 saying that we need mandatory minimums for bonds.

23 If you are charged with murder, you

24 should get no bond no less than $500,000 or 10

25 percent of that, and then we won't see some of

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1 these folks who get off go back and shoot the

2 people that are set to testify against them.

3 So I want to thank the hard working men

4 and women of this department for going out there,

5 working hard to catch the criminals and I just

6 feel heartbroken for them once they do to see

7 these idiots back out on the street because

8 they're able to make bond.

9 So I thank this Commission for your

10 time.

11 COMMISSIONER BELL: Thank you, sir. So

12 the Commissioner could entertain bringing forth

13 the Chief Judge of the Third Circuit Court and

14 also the Chief Judge of 36th District Court to

15 address those concerns because we haven't had any

16 interaction with them as far as the criminal

17 justice system, so we can entertain in terms of

18 bringing those two Chief judges if they're so

19 kind to come before this body to speak to the

20 issues that you brought to our attention as we

21 formulate our agenda for 2015 and thank you

22 again.

23 Any other comments from the audience?

24 MR. SCOTT: Good evening, Board. I

25 just want to say that I think -- oh, yeah, my

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1 name is Ron Scott.

2 Anyway, I just am glad that the Board

3 is here and is engaged in this forum. It should

4 be a civics lesson to everyone that this is in

5 fact democracy in action. And so I'm glad that

6 the ministers are going to step up and say

7 something about this.

8 I think that having been around and

9 having argued for it and pushed for it during the

10 anti-STRESS period for the creation of this

11 Board, also having pushed for the recruitment of

12 more African-Americans to be on the police force

13 at that particular time and police officers

14 should be pushing for this. The DPOA should be

15 pushing, the command because when they have a

16 problem, they too can come to the Police

17 Commission if they have a problem internally, so

18 it's not just for the citizens alone, it's also

19 for officers and for the men and women of the

20 Detroit Police Department for their

21 consideration.

22 So if you deprive one of democracy, you

23 deprive everyone of democracy and so within that

24 context, it's not just a question of the Board,

25 it's a question of we the citizens being deprived

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1 of our democratic rights.

2 So therefore this is as important as

3 any other fight in the civil rights movement and

4 this is in fact as imperative as the Voting

5 Rights Act.

6 So in effect that's what we're really

7 fighting for. I just wanted to kind of capsulize

8 it that this is something that at some point

9 certain people in the world fight for and die for

10 the right to vote for things, so in that context

11 I laud you for continuing the battle and we will

12 continue it with you.

13 Condolences to Commissioner Crawford.

14 Chief, I agree with you, I'm very glad that there

15 is a reduction, but I'd like to go back and say

16 having worked with Save our Sons and Daughters,

17 Stop the Violence movement, we worked over the

18 last 10, 15 years with the Coalition Against

19 Police Brutality, Peace Zones for Life, Mothers

20 of Murdered Children.

21 Rev. Vann has ring in the new year with

22 a bell, not a bullet. All of those organizations

23 have contributed to what we see as a reduction in

24 crime. Tom Adams and his organization in terms

25 of returning offenders, these things collectively

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1 resolve or diminish the effort, the violence at

2 this particular point.

3 And so essentially we collectively as a

4 community do it. I'm glad you made reference to

5 the community, Chief, but I wanted to put some

6 names there, I wanted to mention some names of

7 people, not just the community, but the names of

8 the people who've been out there.

9 Like Charity Hicks who just recently

10 died who talked about waging peace. Those are

11 the kinds of people who have brought to bear this

12 consciousness that violence is too much and we've

13 had enough and we need to do something about it.

14 So that in conjunction with those of

15 you in the uniform need to do that.

16 And finally I just want to say this. I

17 was asked on two occasions to talk about alleged

18 efforts to use the context of the moment of

19 understanding that Detroit which is far in

20 advance of Ferguson and everywhere else of having

21 police oversight that people around the country

22 are fighting about, that there were going to be

23 attempts to attack officers.

24 And I said these do not reflect any of

25 the people that I know. They don't reflect

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1 anything like this and so I think when these

2 things are brought up that -- and I have to thank

3 AC Dolunt, because you and I said almost the same

4 thing.

5 You said "walk a mile in my shoes",

6 didn't you say something like that? And I said

7 we don't advocate violence against police

8 officers, you don't advocate violence against

9 citizens and I think that was something that

10 ironically enough in both hands we were saying

11 the same thing, that we have to be conscious that

12 media raises these kinds of questions that we

13 have to stand for peace regardless of any side.

14 We can't be seen as individuals who

15 want to go out and attack somebody because they

16 have a blue uniform or a blue shirt. That is not

17 where this city is, that is not the kind of

18 people we are. We deal with issues and not

19 individuals.

20 So I just wanted to say that and put

21 that on the record and, and Pamela Davis-Drake,

22 I'm apologizing to you. You attempted to contact

23 me -- no, she wants this on the record.

24 We tried to contact you, you didn't

25 have enough time to get in touch with us. We'll

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1 be contacting you soon, we want about three or

2 four or five or six investigators to come up.

3 Thank you.

4 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Through the

5 Chair, Mr. Scott I want to thank you for that

6 late night call a few weeks ago and that was that

7 call about that a graffiti that was on the wall

8 of Boysville. You were quite disturbed about it.

9 MR. SCOTT: I thought it was horrible.

10 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: And I read your

11 response in the media and I thank you for those

12 responses and in case everyone hadn't -- and some

13 may be puzzled as to what I'm talking about,

14 there was graffiti painted on the wall of

15 Boysville which depicted a police officer with

16 his hands up and a black youth I would assume I

17 guess one could say with a halo and some angel

18 wings with a gun in his hand shooting the officer

19 in the back.

20 So I want to thank you for that and

21 addressing that issue to the public and I can

22 assure you in this year 2015 I will be a

23 commissioner in perpetual motion, in perpetual

24 motion. You know Aaron Pryor used to fight out

25 of Cincinnati, he was called The Hawk and he

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1 fought pound for pounds, at one time he was the

2 greatest and he fought in perpetual motion.

3 So that's what we'll see out of me this

4 year. Thank you.

5 COMMISSIONER BELL: Mother Bernice?

6 MS. SMITH: Good evening to the Board

7 and to the Chief, welcome, and a blessed new year

8 to everybody and welcome, Conrad. For the

9 public, Conrad and I go way back. Of course I'm

10 older than he is because I come along with his

11 daddy when he held him --

12 COMMISSIONER BELL: Mother Bernice,

13 don't tell your age, just speak to the issue,

14 don't tell you age.

15 MS. SMITH: I'm proud of it. But

16 anyway, I'm a member of our Police Chief Advisory

17 Committee and he's doing a good job and advising

18 us on quite a few things, but what I come before

19 you this evening is I have been working with

20 Faleek Shaboz in regards to seeing that the

21 rapist is being apprehended and as all of you

22 know I imagine through the news that he was

23 caught yesterday morning on the Jackson -- in

24 Jackson on the bus.

25 Now, I wasn't walking, I can tell you

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1 that because I can't do much walking, the arches

2 will not let me walk, but I did survey the

3 neighborhood there on John R. and Church; it is

4 terrible, it is terrible.

5 You have new houses that has been built

6 in that area and an average of six to seven of

7 them were vandalized, the windows were broken and

8 I went up four blocks, went up one block, down

9 another one while the other ones were walking and

10 it's a disgrace -- I said this on the radio the

11 other night -- it's a disgrace that we have

12 facilities that will accommodate us, but we don't

13 appreciate it -- some of us, I not saying all --

14 some of us, but it's terrible because I'd never

15 been in that area before and I saw something that

16 I never thought I would see in Highland Park.

17 But in the meantime we got together

18 with the police, Capt. Connie -- Conrad I guess

19 his name is -- and the Mayor, they had the press

20 conference as most of you know yesterday and he

21 had arraigned this morning.

22 And I'm so happy that people came out

23 not only to parade up and down the street with

24 us, but also to let the police know that you will

25 tell. We can't keep all this to ourselves. Same

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1 thing is happening in Detroit.

2 The Chief needs help. He asks you

3 every time he's before the newspaper we need

4 help. Tell what happens. If there's any crime

5 that you're aware of, don't do it because of the

6 money part, do it because you live in the city of

7 Detroit and you want a clean city, you want the

8 police to be able to get out here and not be

9 afraid to apprehend these criminals, and the

10 Chief is doing a -- I'm not going to say it --

11 but he's doing a hell of a job anyway. But when

12 he does something wrong, I will tell him and the

13 same thing with the police department. I love

14 them truly and if they do anything wrong, I will

15 come before this Board and I'll let it to be

16 known publicly.

17 I am proud to be a citizen here in

18 Detroit, I'm originally from Chicago and you know

19 what Chicago is like now, but anyway the fact is

20 we got a heck of a good city that we live in and

21 let's not destroy it by not telling and hiding

22 any crooks that we know that has done wrong in

23 our city. We will be very very blessed and I

24 pray every day that the police department

25 continue to be safe when they go out.

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1 I tell each and every one when I see,

2 "you be careful out there now and look out for

3 your back." I want them to be the way -- I know

4 time is up, I know, but anyway we're blessed with

5 the police document that we have and welcome

6 again, Conrad. Hope to see you again at another

7 meeting and you, Reverend, glad to see you also.

8 So we'll see what you're going to do for us. You

9 take care.


11 EARL C.: Hello, Board. My name is

12 Earl. And I first of all want to give most

13 respect to the Board and respect to the DPD

14 because my brother was part of the DPD for five

15 years, so I understand how much spirit, how much

16 energy it takes to be a part of it.

17 And part of the reason why he's not a

18 part of DPD is that we both went and we actually

19 opened up a gym together in Oakland County. One

20 of the reasons we did that is because I was one

21 of the first black-owned marijuana dispensaries

22 within Oakland County, and not to mention the

23 first light-skinned person to own a marijuana

24 dispensary and I'm kind of proud of that because

25 I am light skinned, but I just wanted to mention

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1 that real quick.

2 But -- and I also apologize on my

3 behalf of my sandals. I do not wear shoes and I

4 try to be consistent in my personality, but this

5 2 degree weather, it's really kind of questioning

6 my character.

7 But I wanted to just kind of speak on

8 the behalf -- I understand that the issue is

9 being really controversial at the moment, but I

10 did want to speak on behalf that there are

11 businesses that are professional, there are

12 businesses that are providing safe access to

13 legitimate patients and there are businesses that

14 are actually providing a great service to those

15 who don't want to go to the black market, to the

16 black corner. I just wanted to make that aware.

17 I understand it's controversial, I

18 understand you guys got a job to do, but at the

19 moment there are people who are involved in the

20 industry that if were in Oakland County.

21 We did get raided in Oakland County,

22 but we ended up after four years of fighting in

23 court actually winning the case because we did

24 was by the book, and that did not go well with

25 them, but that proves that you can be a business

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1 owner in this industry, do things legitimately

2 and benefit the community and the County.

3 And the fact that I'm here now and I

4 hear how much I can be involved in the community,

5 I will be one of the ones that help donate to the

6 organization that came here earlier today, I will

7 be more involved in the community, but I just

8 wanted to comment. I understand it's a

9 controversial industry and comment, but there are

10 people who are legitimate in this business, not

11 being greedy, not take advantage of people and

12 are giving a legitimate service; thank you.

13 COMMISSIONER BELL: Thank you, sir.

14 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: What's your

15 last name? You said Earl.

16 EARL C: Earl C, thank you very

17 much. I'm just not sure how that's going to go

18 after today.

19 COMMISSIONER BELL: You can go back to

20 Oakland County, we going to love you anyway.

21 Make those donations to Detroiters though, we

22 still love you.

23 EARL C.: I'm in Detroit now.

24 COMMISSIONER BELL: I understand.

25 Yes, ma'am.

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1 SGT. BLEDSOE: Good evening,

2 Commission. My name is Sgt. Bledsoe, 12th

3 Precinct Community Relations. I just wanted to

4 make a small announcement. We are in the

5 process, the 12th Precinct, of getting a clergy

6 coalition together and for those clergy who I do

7 not have your e-mail or have the address of your

8 church or have not been to your church to deliver

9 this invitation.

10 I'd like to take this opportunity to

11 invite you on Tuesday, January 13 of this year,

12 the time will be 1 PM to 2 PM at the 12th

13 Precinct, 1441 West Seven Mile Road an

14 opportunity to come and meet face to face with

15 your command officer at your Detroit Police

16 precinct station.

17 You can express your concern and help

18 find solutions. Our agenda is to establish a

19 permanent clergy council for the Detroit Police

20 Department's 12th Precinct. Let's works

21 together. So if I have not made contact with

22 you, I don't have your e-mail, if you have not

23 received this letter at your church yet, you can

24 see me or I can be reached at 313-596-1221.

25 Thank you.

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1 COMMISSIONER BELL: Sgt. Bledsoe, I

2 just want to say that Sgt. Bledsoe was one of our

3 OCI staff members and we have groomed her in what

4 you see today and it's a blessing to --

5 SGT. BLEDSOE: Well, thank you very

6 much.

7 COMMISSIONER BELL: So I just wanted to

8 make that acknowledgment. Thank you.

9 I assume there's no other announcements

10 at the mic. I'd like to give our newly

11 commissioner to the Board, Commissioner Vann and

12 Commissioner Mallett, I don't know if they had an

13 opportunity to speak. The last community meeting

14 I arrived late, I don't know if they had the

15 opportunity to express their concerns or opinion,

16 whatever they want to say. This would be the

17 opportunity if you want to make some brief

18 remarks if you care to.

19 COMMISSIONER VANN: Oh, no, I'm not

20 timid and shy, I will speak out. I'm very -- I

21 mean I'm very apprised of the process, this is

22 not my first time at the radio and so I'm very

23 honored to be here and honored to serve the

24 citizens of the city of Detroit, most especially

25 in District 2, so I feel right at home. I know

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1 everybody and I'm having a good time.

2 COMMISSIONER BELL: Okay. Commissioner

3 Mallett.

4 COMMISSIONER MALLETT: Mr. Chairman,

5 the -- I'd never been a member of the Police

6 Commission, but Lord knows that I've done more

7 than my share of public service. I'm in this --

8 but this is particularly an important

9 opportunity. My father was a Detroit police

10 officer for five years and my godfather is the

11 legendary Frank Blunt, so I got a lot of this

12 tradition, so it's good to be here, good to be

13 back in this particular milieu, and like Rev.

14 Vann, I've never seen a microphone -- let me take

15 that back. Speaking only for myself and not

16 Bishop Vann, I've never turned down an

17 opportunity to speak in front of a microphone, so

18 don't worry, Mr. Chairman, I'll speak right up

19 when I need to.

20 COMMISSIONER BELL: Yes, sir. I just

21 wanted to make sure that the community

22 acknowledge you and appreciate you in terms of

23 the newly formed -- and yes, sir.

24 MR. CLEMENT: Greetings, great Board

25 and Commission. My name is Richard C. Clement,

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1 I'm the legislative aide for Councilman George

2 pro tem Cushinberry and I know the gentleman just

3 got up here and spoke about the medical marijuana

4 and that growing business about it.

5 Well, we looked it over and we know

6 that Colorado has made over $329 million in sales

7 and the point is -- I'll cut to the chase -- we

8 know that police and firefighters have taken a

9 cut through this claw-back provision. I did a

10 little research and a claw-back provision in a

11 police contract is where basically they took the

12 police and firefighters' benefits and cut them

13 because of the financial condition.

14 Now that we have -- we're looking for

15 revenue and businesses and things like that, this

16 medical marijuana industry is like unchartered

17 waters, just like we appointed the new City

18 Council person.

19 What the plan was looking at is taking

20 some of that profit from some of these places,

21 that's including the industrial hemp that grown

22 by the farmer, the male plant which doesn't get

23 you high, and using that revenue to refund or

24 repopulate or restore the police and firefighter

25 cuts they had to take during the financial

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1 conditions.

2 Because in your claw-back position the

3 only reason you got your claw-back is because we

4 was broke. Not that we're not broke, we can use

5 the funds and the revenue from this new industry

6 to fund the pensions of the police and fire

7 department, okay, and the general retirees.

8 So we have to think outside the box so

9 much you got to look like ball, and if you're

10 broke you got to make money, you got to do

11 something.

12 And we've got to create jobs and let's

13 get some education out here and I like to

14 compliment the Detroit Police Department for all

15 their good work and fire and as I say my older

16 brother was a cop for 35 years diving in the

17 water and scuba diving.

18 And another thing too, there's o

19 swimming lessons over here at the Northwest

20 Activity Center so we kind of wonder if we could

21 get some guys out of the scuba diving unit to

22 teach -- Adams Butzel, come over there and do

23 some swimming and teach some lessons and

24 hopefully we get and pay it forward.

25 Other than that, keep up the good work,

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1 peace.

2 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Through the

3 Chair, Mr. Clement. I knew you would be in

4 support of this. So your suggestion is the

5 citizens smoke, there's a profit and that could

6 be used for pensions?

7 MR. CLEMENT: Not only smoke, but other

8 things, making wool fiber, clothing and stuff

9 like that. It's a growing industry.

10 COMMISSIONER BELL: You're part of the

11 Council, so that's another issue.

12 MR. CLEMENT: I just want to let the

13 folks know that I did inspect some of those

14 places and some of them are very well run.

15 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: No pun

16 intended, it is a growing industry, yeah.

17 COMMISSIONER BELL: That's beyond our

18 level. On that note, I think we are prepared to

19 close out the meeting. I want to thank you once

20 again for coming out tonight in this warm weather

21 for your attendance and input, we welcome that,

22 and as you go forth in 2015 keep in mind that we

23 have elected commissioners and we have appointed

24 commissioners, but we have a Charter-mandated

25 collectively to address the concerns of the

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1 community and we're all in this together, whether

2 it be DPD or civilian and we just want to move

3 forward.

4 And I want to say thank you for coming

5 out from South Carolina. You didn't bring enough

6 warm weather with you, but it's good and bless

7 you and safe travel and the Chair would entertain

8 a motion for adjournment.

9 COMMISSIONER VANN: So moved.

10 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.

11 COMMISSIONER BELL: Properly moved and

12 seconded. Ready for the question? Those in

13 favor, aye?


15 COMMISSIONER BELL: Motion carries.

16 Thank you.

17 (Proceedings concluded at

18 8:23 p.m.)

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