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Development Consultation Forum Havant Road, Emsworth 5 th December 2012

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Development Consultation Forum

Havant Road, Emsworth5th December 2012

Programme

• 18.00 - Introduction – Councillor David Guest• 18.05 - Explanation of process, policy background and

planning history – Stephen Cantwell / Adele Maher• 18.15 - Presentation by Developers• 18.35 - Invited speakers• 18.40 - Written consultee responses – Stephen Cantwell• 18.50 - Developer response to issues raised• 19.00 - Councillor opportunity to ask questions• 19.30 - Summary of key points – Stephen Cantwell• 19.40 - Chairman closes Forum meeting

The purpose of the Forum is…• To allow developer to explain development proposals

directly to councillors, public & key stakeholders at an early stage

• To allow Councillors to ask questions

• Informs officer pre application discussions with developer

• Identify any issues that may be considered in any formal application.

• Enable the developer to shape an application to address community issues

The Forum is not meant to…• Negotiate the proposal in public

• Commit councillors or local planning authority to a view

• Allow objectors to frustrate the process

• Address or necessarily identify all the issues that will need to be considered in a future planning application

• Take the place of normal planning application process or role of the Development Management Committee

• Developer will have a list of main points to consider

• Stakeholders and public will be aware of proposals and can raise their concerns

• Councillors will be better informed on significant planning issues

• Officers will be better informed as to community expectations during their pre application negotiations with developers

The outcome of the Forum will be…

Havant Road, Emsworth

Havant Road, Emsworth

• Applications for planning permission must be determined in accordance with the development plan unless material considerations indicate otherwise.National Planning Policy Framework (NPPF) 2012

• Development Plan includes:– Local Plan (Core Strategy) 2011– Saved policies from 2005 Local Plan

• Other material considerations include:– NPPF – Draft Local Plan (Allocations)

Planning Policy – Framework

Local Plan (Core Strategy) 2011 and saved policies• Policy CS17 concentrates new development within the

existing urban areas. Development in the non urban areas are only permitted in accordance with countryside policies in the NPPF.

• Policy CS11.9 seeks to maintain the undeveloped gaps between settlements including Emsworth and Havant

• Saved policy UF1: development should not diminish gaps between settlements, either physically or visually

The proposed development conflicts with these policies

Planning Policy – Key policies

National Planning Policy Framework (NPPF)• Plan positively to support local development• Planning should be genuinely plan-led, empowering local

people to shape their surroundings• In response, HBC are positively progressing the Local Plan

Draft Local Plan (Allocations)• Aims to allocate sites to meet development needs• Consultation currently underway to ensure local people

have an opportunity to shape their surrounding through plan-led system

• Adoption scheduled December 2013

Planning Policy – Material Considerations

Draft Local Plan (Allocations) – content• Site is referred to as UE2b: Land at Havant Road• Not identified as a preferred site to meet the

development needs of Emsworth• Considered that better sites are available at this time• If the Council were to apply weight to the Draft Plan,

which is possible through the NPPF, planning policy would recommend the proposal was not supported because it is not a preferred site for development

Planning Policy – Material Considerations

Draft Local Plan (Allocations) – aim of consultation• Decisions on what were the preferred and discounted

sites included in the Draft Local Plan (Allocations) were made on the basis of evidence available at that point

• There are a number of sites with potential to meet the development needs of Emsworth

• Each of the sites under consideration brings opportunities and challenges

• Aim of consultation is for people to make representations supporting, or objecting to, the draft policies and allocations

Planning Policy – Material Considerations

Planning Policy – Material Considerations

Draft Local Plan (Allocations) – decision making• If the landowner/developer or public disagrees with the

Council’s approach with regard to UE2b, the consultation provides an opportunity to put forward the reasons why it should be included

• The correct forum for deciding which sites are most suitable and should be allocated is through the plan-led system - the Local Plan (Allocations)

• Therefore, it would be premature to consider a planning application on this site before the public, including all the landowners/developers, have an opportunity to comment on the Draft Local Plan (Allocations)

Planning Policy – Material ConsiderationsPre- Submission Local Plan (Allocations) – next steps• Planning Policy advises the applicant to make representations

to the Draft Local Plan (Allocations)• Planning Policy will consider all the representation received

and advise the Council about which sites it recommends to allocate in the Pre-Submission Plan

• If UE2b is considered to be the most suitable site, based on evidence base, it will be recommended for allocation

• Pre-Submission Allocations has a weight, and support could be recommended on the basis that it is an allocated site in the emerging plan

• The Pre-Submission Local Plan (Allocations) is scheduled to be published in April 2013

Presentation by Developers

Invited Speakers

Invited speakers:Emsworth Residents’ Association

• Housing target could be achieved from other more preferable sites

• ERA has received representations from local residents in Selangor Avenue

• Havant Borough is a densely developed area, the development of the site would reduce the gap significantly

Invited speakers:Emsworth Residents’ Association

• Retention of the Havant/Emsworth gap is essential to maintaining the spatial character of the area

• Less vulnerable sites should be developed first

• Since the previous DCF 3 factors should be considered:

• The no. of houses in Emsworth has decreased

Invited speakers:Emsworth Residents’ Association

• Havant has altered its policy regarding flooding in Emsworth

• Joint infrastructure is essential. A piecemeal approach is undesirable

• The flood alleviation scheme and new housing development needs to be considered and funded in a comprehensive manner

Invited speakers: Warblington and Denvilles Residents’

Association• Would like to be included in the consultation

process in future• Would like more about the water table, the soil

structure and drainage.• More evidence that the SUDS scheme is

capable of dealing with the proposed development

• Would like to see more evidence regarding the consultation distances for the gas pipeline

Invited speakers: Warblington and Denvilles Residents’

Association• The site is downwind of the road and

pollution is likely to be a problem for future occupiers.

Invited speakers: Warblington and Denvilles Residents’

Association

Invited speakers:Havant Tree Wardens

Invited speakers:Havant Tree Wardens

Invited speakers:Havant Tree Wardens

Consultee Responses

Consultee Responses:Emsworth Architect’s Panel

• Identified through the LDF as a discounted site.

• Small scale of presentation information makes it hard to assess

• Concern regarding access close to busy roundabout with A27 underpass

• Concern over scale transition from bungalows on Selangor Avenue to the 2.5 storey houses

Emsworth Architect’s Panel

• site layout uninspiring • footpath routes are poorly integrated to the

proposals - on edge and lacks green corridor• green space at either end – whilst there is a

need to keep trees and hedgerows green space needs to be more integrated into the scheme

• if green space not integrated could be pressure for it to be built on.

• site is close to A27 and given the historic problems of road noise are there not better sites.

Consultee Responses:Hampshire Highways

• proposed access is suitable subject to speed data and the appropriate visibility splays being achieved

• the crossing is being assessed by the signals team, it is anticipated that the principle may be acceptable.

Consultee Responses:HBC Development Engineer (Highways)

The applicant will need to submit:

• Transport Assessment

• Travel Plan

• Construction Management Plan

• A shared off-road section of cycle path up to Selangor Avenue, with on-road provision along Selangor Ave to Emsworth Primary School.

Consultee Responses:Housing

• Affordable housing provision at 30% equates to 40 units.

• These should be split by tenure 70/30 affordable rented/shared ownership.

• The affordable housing mix should reflect the mix of units proposed on the site

• Currently there are in excess of 3900 Havant households registered with Hampshire Homechoice, the councils waiting list. Any additional affordable housing provision will help to meet this increasing demand.

Consultee Responses:Special Projects Engineer (Drainage)

• The use of SUDS (Sustainable Urban Drainage Systems) will need to be proven by a hydrological assessment.

• The design should consider how to address the excess drainage water which currently spills from the site’s south east corner onto Havant Road.

• There may be an opportunity to accommodate additional flows from the north and hence avoid the need for flood defence works in Selangor Avenue.

Consultee Responses:Environmental Health

• Noise exposure – significant?

• Survey work is needed (24hr periods)

• Predict internal & external (garden) noise levels

• Noise solutions could include orientation, layout, insulation, bunds, barriers

Consultee Responses:Landscape Architect

• Landscape Qualities

• Attractive enclosed fields on urban fringe

• Narrow site with long boundary to A27

• A27 on well-wooded embankment, visually significant

• Mature hedgerow along Havant Road gives seclusion from public view

Landscape Architect

• Suitability for Development

• Gap Assessment Matrix indicates low suitability for development:

• Significant site in narrow gap between Havant and Emsworth

• High sense of separation due to clearly defined boundary vegetation

Consultee Responses:HBC Landscape Architect

• Recommendation• The site is not recommended for development

as an urban extension.• Reasons• The site has high landscape value due to its

locally important landscape features. It• contributes to the separation between the

adjacent urban areas, by representing a large• proportion of the gap between Emsworth and

Havant.

Main Points of Discussion

Height of propertiesThere are no longer any 2.5 storey dwellings abutting Selangor AvOpen space can be negotiated. The area can be safeguarded by covenant.

Main Points of Discussion• Noise surveys were carried out across a

period of 5 days in numerous locations throughout the site and the results are compared to accepted standards.

• The housing orientation has been designed to mitigate noise pollution where possible.

• The site layout and the natural barrier adjacent to the A27 will mitigate noise pollution

• Special glazing can be utilised if necessary.

Main Points of Discussion

– The sub soil within the site comprises sub soil and a silty clay, then a loose gravel to below 2.5 m then 3.6-6 m is sand

– The water table across the site has been monitored with various bore holes during the last 12 months. It is 1.13-3 metres deep.

– In early spring during periods of significant rainfall the ground water was 1.13 and the lowest level was 2m.

Main Points of Discussion

– Best porosity is at the north and south of the site

– The calculations will be tested and will have to satisfy the requirements of the EA and LPA within any application submitted.

Main Points of Discussion

– The strategic gas main is along the eastern boundary.

– Discussions with HSC and Southern Gas have confirmed a safety easement of 55 metres

– Proposed a diversion of the existing gas main to the western boundary of the site

– The new route would be made with a twin sickle thickness

Main Points of Discussion

– 6 m safety easement proposed and verified by Southern Gas

– Discussions with Southern Gas are ongoing

Councillors’ QuestionsQ The potential to solve the flooding issue is

attractive. Are there other plans emerging to solve the flooding issue?

A HBC are working with the EA, HCC and the Coastal Partnership to address the problems and create an Emsworth Alleviation Strategy alongside the Allocations Plan

Councillors’ Questions

Q Have there been any discussions with the EA? If not are any planned? Will the developers be prepared to negotiate a contribution towards the planned Emsworth scheme?

A There have been discussions with the EA re the volume of flooding and this has helped inform the proposed solutions.

Councillors’ QuestionsQ Has a PPG assessment been carried out?

AThere hasn’t been a PPG assessment as it has been superseded by the NPPF. It could be in category B or C.

Undeveloped side approximately 55-60 db

The existing barrier adjacent to the road is very effective.

There is a contour plan showing the acoustic levels which can be made available.

Councillors’ QuestionsQ Concerns regarding drainage are

fundamental to this site and the rest of Emsworth. Is it correct that the proposed development does not exacerbate the existing situation? Emsworth residents are looking for more than this.

A If existing problems can be mitigated they will be.

Councillors’ Questions

Q Havant Road is very busy at various times during the day. Is the proposal adequate?

A Several traffic surveys have been carried out including CCTV (7 day period in July).

Time bands were used:

7.30-9am Length of delay in terms of time

Average delay varied during the day up to a maximum of 2 minutes 30 seconds.

Councillors’ Questions

100 vehicles: 40-50 egress onto Havant Rd.

Not significant given figure of 1800 vehicles along Havant Rd during peak periods.

Proposal within capacity test for the junction.

Q What will the proposed timetable for progressing with the development is?

A If the site were included in the AP – Dec 2013 onwards. If not included will have to be considered further.

Councillors’ QuestionsQ How much traffic movement is anticipated out of

the proposed site during peak times?

A Estimated 90 vehicles per hour in peak times. Majority out of the site (only 25 entering the junction)

80% would be expected to turn right towards Havant and the A27. Therefore little impact on Emsworth expected. This site has less HW impact than other proposed sites.

Councillors’ Questions

Q Core Strategy contains a pollution policy which refers to the impact of pollution on children living close by. How will potential pollution be considered and mitigated?

A Monitored and information available on web

Councillors’ Questions

Q Why are there 2 bends in the road which will result in the occupiers of flats being closer to the A27?

A The flats are easier to design in terms of noise pollution as they don’t incorporate gardens. Glazing can be incorporated to prevent internal noise from being a problem. Natural traffic calming and to provide interest in the layout.

Councillors’ QuestionsThe road could be narrowed as an alternative form of traffic calming.

Q Please explain the proposed works to the highway.

A The proposed access is along the south boundary (in orange)

There is an existing cycle track along the front of the site. This is to be widened to allow 2 way cycles (i.e. east and west)

Councillors’ Questions

A The proposed crossing will enable safer crossing The crossing will also create gaps in the traffic which will aid drivers wanting to exit onto Havant Road from Selangor Avenue

Q Will cyclists still have to cross a road (the proposed access)

A Yes, but the proposed access will have far fewer motorists and therefore be safer.

Councillors’ QuestionsCurrently cyclists have to cross Havant Road twice to get to the underpass. The proposal will prevent having to cross Havant Road twice.

Speaker Questions

Q Will the developer consider contributing towards flood mitigation measures being investigated for Emsworth?

AThe site will not exacerbate the situation. Will seek to improve the situation (if affordable) by funding further studies.

Questions from the floorQ Can the developer explain the benefits of the

proposed site compared to other sites in the allocations plan?

A The proposed site has more direct access onto Havant Road.

Q Are Barratt aiming to improve the situation for the community or to create profit?

A The development seeks to generate income and to improve the environment for the community e.g. cycling, open space and drainage.

Questions from the floor

How will the proposal address issues re infrastructure?

AThe planning process consults to ensure proposals provide contributions towards the infrastructure.

Q Will the drainage pump water from the north to the south?

A Water will be collected in tanks then slowly released into the soil.

Questions from the floor

The tanks will be numerous and substantial in size to meet a 1 in 100 year flood risk. The water can only be released at the ‘green field rate’ to allow the water to soak away.

Southern Water will allow water to be linked to the existing sewer to the south. The volume to be discharged will be agreed with Southern Water for overflow water.

Questions from the floor

Q What does the blue line represent at the south of the site?

A This is an existing ditch.

Q The ditch is often flooded.

A Drainage is important and will be considered in detail.

Questions from the floor

Q When was the noise survey carried out?

A April

Q When there is no foliage on the trees the noise levels are substantially higher so the survey should be carried out during the winter.

A The foliage cannot noticeably mitigate noise pollution.

Questions from the floor

Further noise surveys can be carried out during the winter to provide peace of mind. The results can be published.

Q Given that the proposed houses will have a high proportion of families in them, traffic towards Emsworth is likely to be significant. Can this be taken into consideration?

What Happens Next?

• Summary notes circulated to attendees

• Officers will discuss outcomes with developer

• Developer will continue to develop proposals and consider issues raised by Forum

• Decision as to form of application and timing of submission rests with developer.