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Discovery Discussion

DebateReal Estate

Computers have made life easier, most of the time. On

the other hand, the changeover can cause strange

decisions. Common sense is not always so common. In

this story an outdated requirement could have been

easily fixed, if a change had been communicated.

Discuss the Governments role. Debate the opinions

formed form the discussion.

Dr. Paul R. Friesen


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Discovery Discussion Debate

Design Dr. Paul R. Friesen 2013 Page 1 of15

Original Story copyright of original author

Graphic organizers from MS Office templates

Title:

Woman told to contact dead parents over caveat

Discover Ideas(Outline)

Discuss the Story

(3 Question Levels)

Create Opinions

Real Estate


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Before you start

Look through the idea, front to back.

The ideas in red are just ideas. Students should add to these.

There is an outline page for Discovery.

There are graphic organizer pages for the Discussion and Debate sections.

The reason for the worksheets, at the end of the book, is to help you work

systematically through the material. Worksheets are helpers and can be a distraction

from the rhythm and sequence in your teaching. By putting them at the end they

become support pages versus places to stop, giving a smoother presentation.

DiscoveryIn the beginning of each story you will have a few questions to discover what you

know, or think you know about a story. The Title of the article/ story will be givenand you will be asked to discover the story by asking good questions.

In the second part ofdiscovery you will be asked to find words which you do not

know. Some of these may be highlighted already in bold. Definitions will follow to

help you discover what the writer is talking about.

Discovery will help youform a plan for the discussion and debate.

DiscussionDiscussion is not a debate, though it can quickly become one if there are strong

opposing ideas in the group.

Discussion can be a part of the discovery before you read the story. It may also come

after to discuss the ideas of the story. Sometimes a persons views may change after

reading the article, which is a good way to start a discussion.

Discussion is interaction without a lot of structure. Be careful not to confuse

discussion with argument.Debate is about argument. Discussion is about sharing

your views and interacting with others who want to expand or give a differing

viewpoint.DebateDebate is a structured idea. It means that only one person speaks in turn, and with a

specific point to address. It also has a time limit, so the speaker must be precise in

their argument. In a debate the key is to listen and be prepared to oppose the other

teams ideas. It takes research, a lot of work, and patience.

In the following story we want to begin with discovery ideas. What can you know

from a title, if you dont know about the topic?


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In discovery you will form ideas to create basics ideas for an outline. In discussion

you will ask questions to help you build an outline for your viewpoint. In debate you

will separate the outline into two sections, for and against. At each stage you will be

able to use what you have learned before, to expand on your ideas and understand

both sides of the issue.

Category ~ Real Estate

DiscoveryTitle: Woman told to contact dead parents over caveat

What can you know from the title?

. It is about dead people.. The lady has a lot of stress.. Its about American/ Canadian / European culture.. It was about people wanting to talk with their ancestors.

What do I know about this topic?

Nothing!

Complications in life give me stress.People want to talk to dead people.

Only in America!

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What would make me depressed?

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Have you ever had a problem that looked simple, but was complicated?

No! Why not?

Yes! What did you do, and why?


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.Now read the story..Create an outline of the story / paragraphs..There are words you will find following the story..Look in the definitions, which follow the story..Discoverthe words you dont know.

Real EstateWoman told to contact dead parents overcaveatBetty Ann Adam The StarPhoenix (Saskatoon)Thursday, February 27, 2003

As executrixof her fathers estate, Carol Ross never thought she would beexpected to try to contact him and her dead mother by mail.

But thats what Ross was told she would have to do to have a 40-year-old caveat

removed from the title of the Yorkton house her parents owned.

It really upset me. Its so morbid, its sick, Ross, a Saskatoon resident, saidWednesday.

Rosss parents, Carl and Helen Novakowski, placed the caveat or warning, on the title

in 1963 when they were buying the house.

The caveat warns other potential buyers that someone else already has a financial

interest in the property.

Such caveats are usually removed when the title is transferred to the buyer after

payment is complete, but it apparently was overlooked at that time with theNovakowski property.

Now that Ross holds title to the house, she wants to discharge the caveat so she

can sell the house and she wants to do the taskherself to avoid a lawyers fee.

Staff at Information Services Corp. (ISC), the Saskatchewan Crown Corporationwhich processes land titles, told Ross the process requires her to send forms by

registered mail to each of her parents, who were both named in the caveat, if she

wanted to avoid using a lawyer. Her mother died, in 1973, and her father in December,2002.


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She was told that once the letters are returned to her unopened, she must bring them to

the ISC office and complete some forms.

Ross took her parents death certificates to the Saskatoon office to prove it would

bepointless to send forms to herdeceased parents and asked if she could just fill

out the forms. She was told the death certificates were not adequate substitutes

for the returned letters. An e-mail to the ISC Web site yielded the same results.

Nor did she get any satisfaction when she called Premier Lorne Calverts office last

week. A secretary there said she would forward the matter to the Justice

Department. Ross didnt hear anything from the Premiers office or Justice.

She reluctantly went ahead and mailed the registered letters, an act that she said

brought up the sadness of the loss of her parents all over again.

Ross was given bad information, Jason Fiske, an ISC spokesperson said Wednesday.

The registered letter was required under the old, paper-based system,but since

land titles was converted to a computerized system about a year ago, the registrar

has had the power to remove such a caveat, Fiske said.

Many employees who worked under the old system didnt know the rule had changed,

he said.

The Ross matter has now brought the issue to the attention of officials, who saw toit Wednesday, that staff were informed of the change by e-mail.

The change will also be recorded in procedural documents, so that such mistakesare not made in the future, he said.

Ross is satisfied that the matter has been corrected for future users but remains

unimpressed with the formerbureaucratic rigidity.

Why didnt someone use common sense and look into this themselves? They were so

adamantthat the rules be followed, Ross said.

Copyright 2003 The StarPhoenix (Saskatoon)


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Special Note

Caveat or warning other potential buyers that someone else already has a

financial interest in the property.

Vocabulary Definitions

CaveatAs pointed out, in the story, this means warning. This warning is attached to

something. It is not a verbal or spoken warning.

ExecutrixThis is the same as executor but female. An executor is a Law

professional that reads the last will of a dead person and makes sure it is

fulfilled.

EstateEstate has a couple of meanings. Here it is the money and property the deadperson had to distribute among his family and friends.

Title of the Yorkton houseYorkton is the City in the Province of Saskatchewan.

The title or deed is a legal paper that shows the owner of the property.

MorbidThis word is used to let us understand it was looking like something dead,

or the feeling of dead.

OverlookedIf we reverse this we will understand it better, but looked over gives us

the wrong picture. The position of the object changes. Overlooked means,

did not see. Look over is to see the object and see things on the otherside of the object.

HoldsThis means to be in possession of something. It does not mean to

physically holding it but be in control of it.

DischargeThis means to take it off. Discharge can be applied differently in different

context.

Do the taskTask is a job or work.

Crown CorporationThis is a Government owned Corporation. In Canada we call it a

Crown Corporation. In Canada when we refer to the crown it is most

often used in this context.

Death certificatesA certificate that is given when a person is pronounced dead by a

Doctor or Coroner (Medical Examiner)

DeceasedThis means dead. It is more polite and less direct.

Adequate substitutesThe substitutes were not good enough to replace the original.


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YieldedThis means to give up something after hard work. To give up easily is to

hand over.

Forward the matterTo send the matter to a higher authority or to another more

qualified or able person.

Premiers office or Justice Premier is Canadas version of Provincial Governor.

Here it is the top Provincial office and Justice is a Ministerial position and

office under the Premiers Office.

ReluctantlyThis is to do it without joy. Not wanting to do something but doing it

anyway is to do it reluctantly.

ActHere it is just an action. As a noun it is usually a Legal term.

Brought upIt brought to mind. This phrase can also be used for sickness, or to bring

up a subject for debate.

Paper-based systemA system of accounting without the use of technology, like

computers.

ConvertedThis means to change. You can convert electricity or from paper to

technology.

The power to removePower here is NOT electricity but the authority to do

something.

The issueThe problem is the most common use of the word issue. But it could be

used to mean, give out or issue a ticket.

ProceduralThis is in reference to the documents in a process or procedure.

Bureaucratic rigidityRigid is hard and stiff not bending. Bureaucracy is political

process.

AdamantThis is strong emotional feeling for something. In an argument it is to not

give up your opinion at any cost or effort.


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DiscoveryWhat do I know about this topic?

List at least four (4) different ideas you have found in this story about the gold

rush.

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Use them when you make your outline.

Discussion

1. What Real Estate stories have you heard or read about?2. What would you do if this happened to you?3. Who is at fault here? Explain your reasons.

Level II

1. What do people do when there are old problems hindering a move forward?2. What would be your advice to this person?3. How often do you think this happens?

4. Do you think that it happens enough to spend time and money changing thesystem? Why or why not?

Level III

1. Going from paper to computer can be a problem. How do you think the transitioncan be smoother?

2. In your culture/system how much of the system is still paper based.3. If computer systems are better, why do we still use so much paper?4. How do we balance speed/ convenience with personal information security?5. Do information systems give government too much power? Why or why not?

You now have everything you need to fill out your outline.

Look at your answers, underDiscussion, andfill it outto reflect the

new ideas.

These new ideas will help you form your debate ideas better.


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In debate you will have a statement not a question. You have to react to the statement

with facts, not opinions.

Discussions are based a lot on opinions and answer questions. This is where

these two ideas, though similar, are different.

Debate is about facts and statements.

When you make a statement, from a story,you must consider what the coreissue is. If you have made a good outline, you will have this already

discovered.

This story is from politics. The core issue could be;

social economicpolitical

culture

In todays world the topics could range from;

government responsibility of training staff. government control in business real estate laws office attitudes unfair laws and practices

These are all good arguments that you would want to research for your argument, or

write in your essay. Build the argument starting from Why? Once you have

determined the Why? you can find facts to support your idea.

The size of government is too big. Therefore it is too rigid to allow change.Smaller government will allow for a more flexible system.

Good business requires creativity and responsibility. Governments shouldallow lower level staff to respond.

A chain is a chain, therefore a chain of command cannot be separated, or it

will create weakness in the rules.

Before you start choose one of the above statements to focus on. Choose afor or against position.

Research to find FACTS for your position.

List the facts.

Write out your argument in a long paragraph format. Include the oppositeposition in your writing.

You need to write out both sides so you can understand the

other sides argument.


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Discovery OutlineMain topic ________________________

Find one(1) key idea in each paragraph. (3-5 words)

Paragraph 1 ______________________________

Paragraph 2 ______________________________

Paragraph 3 ______________________________

Paragraph 4 ______________________________

Paragraph 5 ______________________________

Write two thingsabout the main paragraph idea.

Paragraph 1 ______________________________

A. ______________________________

B. ______________________________

Paragraph 2 ______________________________

A. ______________________________

B. ______________________________

Paragraph 3 ______________________________

A. ______________________________

B. ______________________________

Paragraph 4 ______________________________

A. ______________________________

B. ______________________________

Paragraph 5 ______________________________

A. ______________________________

B. ______________________________

In the introduction you use the 5 paragraph ideas to communicate the order ofyour argument/ essay.

In the conclusion you repeat what you have said about the points of eachparagraph.


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Graphic Organization ~

Main topic = 5 Paragraph Topics

Main

topic

paragraph 1

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paragraph 2________________________________________________

paragraph 3

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paragraph 4________________________________________________

paragraph 5

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Discussion Graphic ~ Government rules are a problem / becoming a problem in

todays society?

Answer ~ I think workers in Government offices are (are not) only interested in their

job because ..

Problem /

Real Estate

Government jobs are forpeople who do not want to

think.

Respond

Respond

Rules are rules. They shouldnot be changed, just because

of technology.

Respond

Respond

It is important to have rules,but staff need to be able to

make decisions, at thelowest level.

Respond

Respond


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graphic ~ choose one statement from the list

above.

Write it here _____________________________________________

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To make your argument you should understand that they are connected.

In the next two charts (1) list your argument facts and ideas, (2) show how your

argument connects to both the center point and the other points.

FactsFor Against

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

8

Add more if needed


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graphic ~ choose one statement from the list

above.

Now start the .

As a team choose which points they will speak about.

Each person will listen for the opposite point and create a new

response to what the other person has said.

A: point 1

B: responds to the point and give a new point.

C: responds to B and give a new point.

After all persons have spoken each person can respond to any point given by

the opposite team, or add more points from their team which will need

responding to from the opposite team.

If this -- then

If this -- then

If this -- then

If this -- then

If this -- then

Write your statement position here.________________________________________

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Dear Teacher/ Student,

After you have finished this please look for more in this series to challenge yourself.

This is only part of a curriculum. It starts with Dr. Roys Everything Grammar.

Dr. Roys Everything Grammar Volumes I and II will develop the skills of story andessay writing, while at the same time building a foundation in grammar. The

repetition of grammar, combined with reason and speaking, culminating in a story or

essay will prepare students for this series.

Going beyond this book is a book to expand the outlines into essays. Good essays are

able to build and defend an argument. Building a structure for debate will springboard

off this skill set.

Dr. Paul R. Friesen

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