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ED 115 327 AUTHOR TITLE PUB DATE NOTE AVAILABLE FROM DOCUMENT RESUME JC 760 001 Thompson, James R. An In Depth Look at Veterans Attending the Community Colleges in Washington State. 74 259p.; Master's Thesis, Seattle University James R. Thompson, Everett Community College, 801 Wetmore Avenue, Everett, Washington 98201 ($4.85) EDRS PRICE MF-$C.76 Plus Postage. HC Not Available from EDRS. DESCRIPTORS Counseling Programs; *Junior Colleges; *Outreach Programs; *Student Attitudes; Student Characteristics; Tuition Grants; *Veterans; *Veterans Education IDENTIFIERS Washington ABSTRACT In order to compile general data on veterans attending two-year institutions in Washington State, develop educational and employment profiles of the veterans, explore the extent of veterans' knowledge of available -benefits, and evaluate the effectiveness of Veterans Outreach programs throughout the state, a questionnaire was designed and administered to 1,315 veterans attending 23 of the 27 Washington community colleges during the spring quarter of 1973. The average veteran is a male caucasian, 24 to 25 years old, married, with one or two dependents. He entered the U. -S. Army at the age of 18 in 1969, served three years of ,active duty, did not serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connected disability, and was discharged in 1973. He has acquired 12 years of education, and is taking 15 or more quarter hours in day sessions. Fe was employed before entry into the service and is now unemployed after holding three or more jobs since his discharge. Although he knew the G. I. Bill existed, he has not used it previously because he did not know how to go about getting it. Before talking to an outreach worker he was unaware that lower tuition and tutorial assistance were available to Vietnam veterans. A review of the literature and bibliography ire included, and survey instrument is appended. (Author/NHM) *********************************************************************** Documents acquired by ERIC include many informal unpublished * materials not available from other sources. ERIC makes every effort * * to obtain the best copy available. Nevertheless, items of marginal * * reproducibility are often encountered and this affects the quality * * of the microfiche and hardcopy reproductions EPIC makes available * via the ERIC Document Reproduction Service (EDRS). EDRS is not * responsible for the quality of the original document. Reproductions * * supplied by EDPS are the best that can be made from the original; ***********************************************************************

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ED 115 327

AUTHORTITLE

PUB DATENOTEAVAILABLE FROM

DOCUMENT RESUME

JC 760 001

Thompson, James R.An In Depth Look at Veterans Attending the CommunityColleges in Washington State.74259p.; Master's Thesis, Seattle UniversityJames R. Thompson, Everett Community College, 801Wetmore Avenue, Everett, Washington 98201 ($4.85)

EDRS PRICE MF-$C.76 Plus Postage. HC Not Available from EDRS.DESCRIPTORS Counseling Programs; *Junior Colleges; *Outreach

Programs; *Student Attitudes; StudentCharacteristics; Tuition Grants; *Veterans; *VeteransEducation

IDENTIFIERS Washington

ABSTRACTIn order to compile general data on veterans

attending two-year institutions in Washington State, developeducational and employment profiles of the veterans, explore theextent of veterans' knowledge of available -benefits, and evaluate theeffectiveness of Veterans Outreach programs throughout the state, aquestionnaire was designed and administered to 1,315 veteransattending 23 of the 27 Washington community colleges during thespring quarter of 1973. The average veteran is a male caucasian, 24to 25 years old, married, with one or two dependents. He entered theU. -S. Army at the age of 18 in 1969, served three years of ,activeduty, did not serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connecteddisability, and was discharged in 1973. He has acquired 12 years ofeducation, and is taking 15 or more quarter hours in day sessions. Fewas employed before entry into the service and is now unemployedafter holding three or more jobs since his discharge. Although heknew the G. I. Bill existed, he has not used it previously because hedid not know how to go about getting it. Before talking to anoutreach worker he was unaware that lower tuition and tutorialassistance were available to Vietnam veterans. A review of theliterature and bibliography ire included, and survey instrument isappended. (Author/NHM)

***********************************************************************Documents acquired by ERIC include many informal unpublished

* materials not available from other sources. ERIC makes every effort ** to obtain the best copy available. Nevertheless, items of marginal *

* reproducibility are often encountered and this affects the quality *

* of the microfiche and hardcopy reproductions EPIC makes available* via the ERIC Document Reproduction Service (EDRS). EDRS is not* responsible for the quality of the original document. Reproductions ** supplied by EDPS are the best that can be made from the original;***********************************************************************

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AN IN DEPTH LOOK AT

VETERANS ATTENDING THE COMMUNITY

COLLEGES IN WASHINGTON STATE

by

James R. Thompson

Veterans Outreach Coordinator /Counselor

Everett Community College

A Research Report Presented to the

Director of Research of the School of Education

Seattle University

In Partial Fulfillment

of the Requirements for the Degree

MASTER OF EDUCATION

1974U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH,

EDUCATION L WELFARENATIONAL INSTITUTE OF

EDUCATION

THIS DOCUMENT HAS BEEN REPRO.DUCED EXACTLY AS RECEIVED FROMTHE PERSON OR ORGANIZATION ORIGIN-ATING IT POINTS OF VIEW OR OPINIONSSTATED DO NOT NECESSARILY REPRE-SENT OFFICIAL NATIONAL INSTITUTE OFEDUCATII;N POSITION OR POLICY

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PS' "'ON TO. RE PRODUCE THISrcvw E D MA TL RrAL BY MICRO-

FICHE ONLY HAS BEEN GRANTED BY

Jamey Richard Thompsonr AND ORiANIZATIONS OPE RAT

NU ,`,DER AC,REETMENTS,4.ITH THE NANST:TUTE OF EDUCATION

r, 'HER REPRODUCTION OUTSIDErHF F:q C sysTeNT REQUIRES PERMIS

CE, THF.:COPYRIGHT

Copyright by

James Richard Thompson

1974

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ABSTRACT

This study was designed to bring into focus the veterans attending Community

Colleges in Washington State and give some possible indications as to how we might

better serve those who have served us. In light of the small number of veterans using

their benefits and the large number who aren't completely aware of the benefits avail-

able, an attempt was made to evaluate the effectiveness of the Veterans Outreach Pro-

grams in Washington State; designed to inform veterans of their benefits and assist them

in taking advantage of them.

The total sample consisted of 1315 veterans attending 23 of the 27 Community

Colleges in Washington State. The sample was broken down into two groups of veterans;

outreach and non-outreach to determine the type of veterans the Outreach Program is

reaching as opposed to those already in school before Outreach existed (Veterans Outreach

was initiated in Washington State on November 16, 1972). The data was collected on

veterans attending school during the Spring quarter, 1973 (March - June).

There didn't appear to be any major differences between outreach and non-outreach

veterans on the State level indicating that in general the outreach programs are reaching

veterans of all ages, from all branches of the military, with a variety of backgrounds.

However, some schools did show major differences between the outreach and non-outreach

veterans, which can probably be attributed to a number of things, but most likely ties in

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with the specific kinds of -,utreach work they are doing and how restricted their program

is (many programs are very restricted because of the limited amount of funds available).

Within the limitations of the study, the results support the following conclusions:

1. The majority of the veterans attending community colleges are young (under 28)

and married.

2. A high majority of the veterans attending community colleges are Vietnam-

era veterans with a surprisingly high number of them entering the service at a

very young age.

3. Many veterans who have disabilities are not satisfied with the benefits they've

received.

4. Many veterans attending community colleges have little formal education,

and 1-n some ways may be considered less educated now than at their entry into

the service.

5. The majority of the veterans attending community colleges feel that their

training in the military is not applicable to civilian jobs; most of which have

held three or more jobs since their separation from active duty.

6. Many veterans feel that their local Employment Security Department is not

meeting their needs.

7. A high number of veterans do not feel they received adequate information

about their benefits prior to discharge.

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8. The veterans attending community colleges feel that current benefits are

not adequate to meet their needs.

9. The majority of the veterans have not drawn money on the Gol. Bill previously

because they do not know how to go about getting it. Many can not get correct

information or are misinformed and some do not know that it exists.

10. The veterans attending community colleges were not well informed until they

they talked to an Outreach worker. The majority are not aware that tutorial assist-...

ance even exists and don't know about lower tuition for Vietnam veterans.

11. The Veterans Outreach program in Washington is a tremendous success with

almost all the veterans who had exposure to it, feeling their needs were totally or

partially met. Almost all veterans sampled feel that Veterans Outreach should be

made available at the individual institutions on a permanent basis.

12. The veterans attending community colleges are in favor of all Vietnam-era

veterans receiving the state bonus and would support a State G.1. Bill for tuition

at the community college level.

13. Many veterans are not getting the dental benefits for which they are entitled

because they are not aware of their existance.

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CHAPTER PAGE

II. REVIEW OF THE LITERATURE. .. 6

Research on the Vietnam Veterans Personal Feelings..... 6

Research on How the Vietnam Veteran Will Be Paid For

His Service to His Country, Especially Those Who

Paid the High Price of Disabilityu......... 9

Research of New and Unique Problems Facing Vietnam

VeteransOuUOw 0,10 OUU o LI 00000 0 0 0000 0 00000 00 0 10

Research on the Adequacy of the G.I. Bill in the Shadows

of World War II and Korean Veterans 11

Research on the Employability of the Returning Veteran. 13

Outreach Services Programs and Other Actions Needed.... 15

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III. METHODS AND PROCEDURES.............. 18

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The Sample,..),,00001.1"00400000401.10001.10 0 0000000 19

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Questionnaire Returns.....--.....0000001.10.01.100 20

IV. PRESENTATION AND ANALYSIS OF THE 21

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CHAPTER PAGE

V. SUMMARY, CONCLUSIONS, IMPLICATIONS AND

RECOMMENDATIONS 0, 000nnonnonnnonnonn nnnonn.nonnnn 196

Summary, Conclusions and Implications 196

Recommendations for Further Research... 203

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LIST OF TABLES

TABLE PAGE

1. Age (At collection of data):a) number of responses and sample size 23b) percentages of responses 24

2. Sex:a) number of responses and sample size 25b) percentages of responses 26

3. Race:a) number of responses and sample size 27b) percentages of responses 28

4. Marital Status:a) number of responses and sample size 29b) percentages of responses 30

5. Number of Dependents:a) number of responses and sample size 31

b) percentages of responses 32

6. Branch of Service:u) number of responses and sample size 33b) percentages of responses 34

7. Yearof Entry into the Military:a) number of responses and sample size 35b) percentages of responses 36

8. Age at Entry into the Military:a) number of responses and sample size 37b) percentages of responses 38

9. Date of Separation from Military:a) number of responses and sample size 39b) percentages of responses 40

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10. Number of Years on Active Duty:a) number of responses and sample size 41b) percentages of responses 42

11. Whether Service Was Performed in Vietnam or Not:a) number of responses and sample size 43b) percentages of responses 44

12. Whether or Not the Vietnam Service Medal Was Received:a) number of responses and sample size 45b) percentages of responses 46

13. Whether or Not a Service Connected Disability Was Received:a) number of responses and sample size 47b) percentages of responses 48

14. Whether or Not Disability Is a Direct Result of Combat:a) number of responses and sample size 49b) percentages of responses 50

15. Adequacy of Benefits Received for Disability:a) number of responses and sample size 51b) percentages of responses 52

16. Number of Years of Education:a) number of responses and sample size 53b) percentages of responses 54

17. Quarter of School Enrolled for:a) number of responses and sample size 55b) percentages of responses 56

18. Number of Credit Hours:a) ,:number of responses and sample size 57b) percentages of responses 58

19. Time of Day Attending Classes:a) number of responses and sample size 59b) percentages of responses 60

20. Whether or Not Military Training Was Applicable to Civilian Jobs:a) number of responses and sample size 61b) percentages of responses 62

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TABLE PAGE

21. Whether or Not Veterans Were Employed before Entry into Military:a) number of responses and sample size 63b) percentages of responses 64

22. Number of Jobs Held Since Separation:a) number of responses and sample size 65b) percentages of responses 66

23. Number of Months Unemployed between Discharge and First Job:a) number of responses and sample size 67b) percentages of responses 68

24. Number of Months Unemployed to Present:a) number of responses and sample size 69b) percentages of responses 70

25. Whether or Not Unemployment Compensation Is Being Received:a) number of responses and sample size 71

b) percentages of responses 72

26. Reason Not Drawing Unemployment Compensation:a) number of responses and sample size 73b) percentages of responses 74

27. Rating of Employment Security Department'-, Services:a) number of responses and sample size 75b) percentages of responses 76

28. Whether or Not Spouse Is Employed:a) number of responses and sample size 77b) percentages of responses 78

29. Whether orNot Food Stamps Have Been Applied for:a) number of responses and sample size 79b) percentages of responses 80

30. Whether orNot Food Stamps Have Been Received:a) number of responses and sample size 81

b) percentages of responses 82

31. Whether orNot Welfare Has Been Received Since Discharge:a) number of responses and sample size 83b) percentages of responses 84

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TABLE PAGE

32. Whether or Not Adequate Information Was Received about Vet-Services:a) number of responses and sample size 85b) percentages of responses 86

33. When Veteran First Became Aware of How To Go about Using G.I Bill:a) number of responses and sample size 87b) percentages of responses 88

34. When Veteran First Became Aware of Eligibility for G.I.Bill:a) number of responses and sample size 89b) percentages of responses 90

35. The Adequacy of Current G.I.Bill Benefits:a) number of responses and sample size 91

b) percentages of responses 92

36a.Whether or Not Money Has Been Drawn on the G.I.Bill More Than Once:a) number of responses and sample size 93b) percentages of responses

36b.Reason the G.I.Bill Has Not Been Used Previously:a) number of responses and sample size 95b) percentages of responses 96

37. Problems Facing Returning Vietnam-era Veterans:a) Employment

1) number of responses and sample size 972) percentages of responses 98

b) Education1) number of responses and sample size 992) percentages of responses 100

c) Social Apathy1) number of responses and sample size 101

2) percentages of responses 102d) Social Readjustment

1) number of responses and sample size 1032) percentages of responses 104

e) Insufficient Military Out Processing1) number of responses and sample size 105_

2) percentages of responses 106

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TABLE PAGE

38. How the Veteran Heard about Veterans Outreach:a) number of responses and sample size 107

b) percentages of responses 108

39. Whether or Not the Veteran Knew Before Talking to an Outreach WorkerThat A Vietnam Veteran Pays a Lower Tuition Rate at Some Schools:a) number of responses and sample size 109

b) percentages of responses 110

40. Whether or Not the Veteran Knew before Talking to an Outreach WorkerThat Tutorial Assistance Is Available:a) number of responses and sample size 111

b) percentages of responses 112

41. Rating of Veterans Outreach Programs in Washington State:a) number of responses and sample size 113

b) percentages of responses 114

42. Whether or Not the Veteran Thinks the Outreach Services Should BeMade Available at the Individual Institutions on a Permanent Basis:a) number of responses and sample size 115

b) percentages of responses 116

43. Vietnam Veterans Bonus in Washington State:a) number of responses and sample size 117

b) percentages of responses 118

44. State G.I. Bill:a) number of responses and sample size 119

b) percentages of responses 120

45. Veterans Knowledge of Dental Benefits:a) number of responses and sample size 121

b) percentages of responses 122

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LIST OF FIGURES

FIGURE PAGE

1 Graphic representation of the number one rated problem

facing the returning Vietnam-era Veteran.......... 238

2 Graphic representation of the number two rated problem

facing the returning Vietnam-era 239

3 Graphic representation of the number three rated problem

facing the returning Vietnam-era Veteran ............ 240

4 Graphic representation of the number four rated problem

facing the returning Vietnam-era Veteran.......Uuulou 241

5 Graphic representation of the number five rated problem

facing the returning Vietnam-era Veteran000.000UouOU 242

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ACKNOWLEDGMENTS

A special note of gratitude is owed to Jeanette Poore, President of Everett

Community College, who made this survey possible by making available many of

the required materials and much of the moral support needed.

This report could not have been completed without the direct assistance of the

computer department at Western Washington State College, the large amount of

computer programming supplied by WWSC, and the help of Jerry King who tailored

the computer programs to fit the survey.

The writer also wishes to express special thanks to Gail Lancaster, a valuable

assistant in the assembling and typing of this manuscript.

Thanks is due to the Veterans Outreach Program Coordinators for their assistance

in the collection of the data.

Thanks is also due to Willian J. Deller, Dean of Students at Everett Community

College, for his continual encouragement and support.

Finally, the writer wishes to acknowledge:

Charles Yackulic, Professor of Adult Education, Seattle University

Terry Clark, Librarian, Everett Community College

Dave Goetz, Student, Everett Community College

Bob Dyer, Student/Veterans Advisor, Everett Community College

Ken Johnson, Student/Veterans Advisor, Everett Community College

Floyd Turner, Instructor, Everett Community College

Ron Yancovitz, Student, Everett Community College

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Chapter I

THE PROBLEM AND DEFINITIONS OF THE TERMS USED

A. Introduction

For as long as man has been known to exist there has been an unfortunate fiber

of conflict in the fabric of the moral and ethical values of opposing cultures with

increasing motives of materialism and/or that other cultures should be subject to

"change" whether desired or not so that all people of all cultures will be alike and

equal in whatever gain or loss the controling ideology might generate. Unfortunately,

in many cases this means killing the people you are trying to save from whatever their

present life-style might be; bringing into existence,one of the most feared and undesired

situations war.

Along with the evolution of war, many problems have arisen which defy solution.

The birth of war has brought about the death of many life-styles and the development

of the serviceman (veteran); many of whom have given their arms, eyes, legs, and even

their lives in the service to their country. In most cases these veterans are extremely

young and in the prime of their lives.

However, the problem to look at here is not war, for if there were any instant

solution to war and its shortcomings the populus of this earth would rejoicingly indulge

in its blessing. The problem confronting us now is how does a country repay its veterans

for their devoted service. We obviously can't replace arms or legs, ii the flesh, or

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erase scars--physcial or mental. How do you return to a veteran the prime years of his

life which he would have used to educate_or train himself for a lifetime occupation to

support him and his family. Obviously, the hands of time cannot be turned back;

however, compensatory measures can be made.

Today's Vietnamera veterans are faced with many more different kinds of problems

in returning home than the veterans of previous conflicts. Largely because of the lack

of total support for the Vietnam conflict, many of these problems are sociological in

nature, and the solutions to these problems are very ambiguous as are, in many cases,

the problems themselves. Returning veterans (except the POW's) were not given the

heroes welcome with all the ensuing parades and praise. Many of these veterans are in

need of some type of educational training and aren't getting it for one reason or another.

Hopefully this research will expose a profile of the veteran that may enable us to better

define his problems and how to deal with them.

B. Purpose of the Study

This study was designed to bring into focus the veterans attending community colleges

in Washington State and give some possible indications as to how we might better serve those

who have served us. Specifically the study proposed:

1. To acquire a volume of general information pertaining to

veterans attending two-year institutions

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2. To accumulate background service information on the

veterans

3. To develop an educational profile of the veterans

4. To acquire an employment history of the veterans

5. To explore the veterans knowledge of the G.I. Bill

and to determine his attitudes about the bill's adequacy

6. To report on the Veterans Outreach programs through-

out the state

7. To explore the veterans knowledge of dental benefits

after discharge from the service.

C. Definitions of the Terms Used

Veteran:

A person who has spent any amount of time in official service of his country through

some branch of the military.

Vietnam Veteran:

A veteran who has served six months or longer in South Vietnam and/or received

the Vietnam service medal.

Vietnam-era Veteran:

A veteran who has served in the military between August 5, 1964 (After Bay of

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Tonkin) and the present; whether he physically served in Vietnam or not.

Educationally Qualified Veteran(G .1. Bill):

A veteran who has been in the service since January 31, 1955 and was in for

a period of 181 days or more at a rate of 1 1/2 months of educational benefits for

each month of active duty up to 36 months of total entitlement. The veteran must

have an honorable discharge from the service. These are the basic qualifications for

educational assistance. This information can be acquired at any Veterans Administration

Office (in most cases in this report the word veterans relates to educationally qualified

veterans).

Veterans Outreach Program:

A federally funded program placed at the two-year educational institutions

(community colleges) throughout Washington State. The program is designed to

inform and counsel the veterans on the educational benefits available to them and

assist them in taking advantage of those benefits if they so desire.

Outreach Veteran:

The veteran attending a community college, Spring quarter 1973, through

direct assistance of the Veterans Outreach Program at the school of attendance.

Non-Outreach Veteran:

A veteran in attendance at a community college previous to the existence of

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the Veterans Outreach Program.

D. Limitations of the Study

This study was limited to a look at veterans attending community colleges, Spring

quarter 1973, in Washington State. Even though every precaution was taken to assure

that the questionnaires were collected randomly in the same fashion, there was little

control over the actual collection process because of the number of coordinators and

schools participating in the survey.

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Chapter II

REVIEW OF THE LITERATURE

Research, especially specific research on individual Vietnam and Vietnam-era

veterans in Washington State and the Nation, is very limited. Some of the literature

identified will be reviewed in an attempt to determine what some of the problem areas

are and how they have been dealt with to date.

Research on the Vietnam Veterans Personal Feelings

Several concerns have been expressed about the Vietnam veterans open resentment

in regards to his treatment upon his return home. Howard Flieger said, "They're all home

from the wars now--those who survived Vietnam. The only men still out there in uniform

are military attaches and some Marines guarding the U.S. Embassy. So the others--VE,

nearly 21/2 million of them--are back home. Home to what? What is the U.S. doing

to show its gratitude to these men who did their duty--sometimes reluctantly, angrily,

often in frustration--in what was beyond doubt the most unpopular, despised war in

American history ? "1 He also expressed a concern that thousands of Vietnam veterans

bear emotional and psychological scars that do not show on the surface but go deep.

1

Howard Flieger, "The Long Way Back", U.S. News and World Report, Vol. LXXIV,Number 15, April 9, 1973, p. 100.

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"Hundreds of thousands of veterans are experiencing a long lasting sense of isolation,

confusion, loneliness and rejection on their return to their native land."2

Newsweek3

points out that it is a time when the U.S. is bringing prisoners of war

home with warm oratory and hot cash, while 3 million other Vietnam veterans are hoeing

a tougher row than their counter parts from any American war in this century. They also

expressed a concern in that, revised Veterans Administration budgets, computer foul-ups,

inadequate training and rehabilitation programs, and a sluggish job market have combined

to make thousands of Vietnam veterans feel more like war orphans than heroes.

A statement referring to this problem, by Max Inglett, a Sp5 wounded during a

mortar attack, was quoted in Newsweek as follows: "When I saw them come home, I

cried. I cried out of self-pity. I remember getting off the plane when I returned, and

nobody met me. I envy the prisoners because they can walk. They were prisoners for

five years and eight years, but I'm a prisoner within myself because I'm a prisoner in

this," he said, tapping the side of his wheelchair. "You cry inside when you go to

Disneyland and can't take the rides. You cry when you take your girl dancing, and

other guys see you're in a wheelchair and they ask your girl to dance. You don't want

to ruin her fun, but it rips you up inside."4

2Veterans World Project, "Wasted Men--The Reality of the Vietnam Veteran",Final Report, Southern Illinois University, Edwardsville, Illinois, 1972, p. 1 - 2.

3."The Vets: Heroes as Orphans", Newsweek, March 5, 1974, p. 22.

4"The Permanent War Prisoners", Newsweek, March 5, 1974, p. 23.

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, ,This resentment is expanded on by Patrick Butler5 when he points out that after

the longest war in our history two and a half million men who fought will not be coming

home to the traditional heroes welcome, and will be lucky if they can avoid being treated

like war criminals. The new veteran must not only deal with his doubts of the value of

his sacrifices, but also the latent hostilities of millions of Americans who hated the war

and somehow blamed him for having done the dirty work.

Butler's point of view was supported in U.S. News & World Report by an unident-

ified psychiatrist who said, "Every veteran feels alienated from his friends at home because

he developed different friendships and a different way of life in the service." He continues

by saying, "The Vietnam veteran has a heightened sense of alienation because the war in

which he fought has brought little of the glory of previous wars."

Peter J. Ognibene7 displays the country's apathy towards its veterans by pointing

out that the POW's have been thrust into the limelight in a war which gave the country so

many medal-winners but no heroes. The POW's became the honored ones more because

they survived than because of their battle proven courage. No such honors are being

bestowed upon the dead atnd wounded of this war making it seem as if the nation were trying

to drive Vietnam completely from its memory. He suggests that this forgetfulness is a luxury

some cannot afford.

5Patrick Butler, "When Johnnie Comes Marching Home", America, March 24, 1973,

p. 255.

6Home From Vietnam--For 2.3 Million U.S. Veterans: A New Way of Life", U.S.News & World Report, Volume LXXIV, Number 7, February 12, 1973, p. 23.

7Peter J. Ognibene, "POW's and the Vets", Commonweal, Volume XCVIII, Number13, June 1, 1973, pp. 307-308.

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Research on how the Vietnam veteran will be paid for his service to his country,

especially those who paid the high price of disability: Many concerns have been expressed

for the high number of returning veterans and how their service will be repaid. P. J.

Ognibene8 points out that two and a half million men served in Vietnam, while 46,000

died and 300,000 were wounded: 23,000 of them were 100 percent (totally) disabled,for whom

there can be no forgetting the war. These concerns are shared by Time9 when it stated,

"The needs of several hundred returning prisoners of war will clearly be taken care of,

but it is highly questionable whether the several million other Vietnam veterans will be

looked after in a similar spirit."

Andrew Hamilton10 quotes Larry Sullivan, a 23-year old high school dropout and

Marine corporal: "As I wait for the Medivac chopper, I made a vow," he said afterward.

"If I pull through--and right then the odds seemed against it--I was going to make some-

thing of my life."

U.S. News & World Report] ] stated that 2.3 million veterans served in Vietnam

with most of them doing a one year tour of duty. It was also said that 1 in 8 was disabled

to some degree with approximately 23,000 receiving 100 percent (total) disability. In more

than half of these cases the disability is psychiatric or newrological. It was also stated

that in Vietnam, 20 percent of the amputees lost more than one limb, as compared with

8 Peter J. Ognibene, Op. Cit.

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p. 18."Veterans-Forgotten Warriors?", Time, Volume 101, Number 11, March 12, 1973,

10Andrew Hamilton, "Another Time at Bat for Vietnam Vets", American Education,Volume 8, Number 2, March, 1972, p. 4.

11 "Home From Vietnam--For 2.3 Million U.S. Veterans: A New Way of Life",U.S. News & World Report, Op. Cit." pp. 21, 23.

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only five percent of the World War II amputees.

Newsweek12 said, "There are 25,000 of them--paraplegics, quadriplegics, men

disassembled and totally disabled by the frogs, mines,and bullets of the Vietnam war- -

and they have filled up veterans hospitals throughout the country."

U.S. News & World Report" reports that more than 29 million U.S. citizens have

served in the armed forces and that 25.9 million of those were wartime veterans. It also

said that payments for service connected disabilities had gone up to 346,530 at the end

of April (1973) compared with 298,233 one year earlier.

Research of new and unique problems facing Vietnam veterans: The problems of the

Vietnam veterans are many and unfortunately, not very well understood even by the veterans

themselves who must in many cases settle for frustration. Tony Jones1,4 author of "The

Invisible Army", says that eight million Vietnam-era veterans will be returning to society.

He expressed a concern that, "The most comfortable--and most dangerous--myth about

Vietnam veterans is that they have not been deeply affected by their service in the war.

They have." He goes on to say that society has done little to survey the dimensions of

their change. The fears expressed by Jones are supported by Ognibene15 when he states,

"The prospects of change are grim--more so because there seems to be no public pressures to

12, Permanent War Prisoners", Newsweek, Op. Cit.

13"How Aid to Veterans is Rising", U.S. News & World Report, July 9, 1973, p. 57.

14Tony Jones, "The Invisible Army", Harper's Magazine, Volume 245, Number 1467,August, 1972; p. 10.

1 5Ognibene, Op. Cit., p. 309.

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improve the lot of our Vietnam veterans"

U,S0 News & World Report16 shows unique problems of the Vietnam veteran

described by a psychiatrist. They were as follows:

A) The veteran fought in a war which many of his countrymen opposed.

B) He was in uniform during a period of strong antimilitary feeling.

C) While he served his time overseas, life at home went on untouched by

the distant conflict.

D) When he came back, no hero's welcome awaited him. Often, what he

encountered was civilian hostility.

The article also pointed out that in addition the 2,313,000 Americans who phys-

ically served in Vietnam another 3,663,000 discharged veterans served elsewhere since

1965 when the Vietnam-era officially began, bringing the total Vietnam-era veterans

to nearly six million. It also said that the average age of the veteran at discharge was

23 and that over three fourths of the veterans, 4,649,000 were age 30 or younger at latest

count.

Research on the adequacy of the G.I. Bill in the shadows of World War II and

Korean veterans: Many of the people in America are concerned about the small number

of veterans taking advantage of their benefits in comparison with World War II and the

Korean conflict, of todays Vietnam-era veterans it has been said that very few, "(roughly

16 From Vietnam--For 2.3 Million U.S. Veterans: A New Way of Life."U.S News & World Report, Op. Cit,s, p. 21.

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20 percent, compared with 50 percent following World War IN." Hamilton18

supports this data with Veterans Administration statistics that show approximately 50

percent of World War II veterans and 42 percent of Korean war veterans took advantage

of their educational benefits on the G.I. Bill, while only 23 percent of Vietnam vet-

erans have used their benefits.

It is stated in U.S. News & World Report19 that returning servicemen expressed

satisfaction generally with the types of G.I. Bill benefits they are entitled to, but

some describe the amount of financial assistance as inadequate. The point was made

that $200 available to those continuing their education doesn't go far--because of

inflation--as the tuition and subsistence payments received by World War II veterans.

This argument is supported by Butler20 who points out that those veterans hardest hit

are those who decided to go back to college, especially those on campuses with strong

antiwar feelings. He points out that many veterans, continuing their education, are

finding that $220 a month doesn't go nearly as far as the tuition and subsistence funds

received by World War II veterans; thus, they are having to abandon their hopes of

further education.

On the question of benefits, the report, "Wasted Men",21

says, "Any, even

superficial, comparison of the present G.I. Bill with the original 1945 G.I. Bill,

U.

17Tony Jones, Op. Cit., p. 1818

Andrew Hamilton, Op. Cit.

19" Home From Vietnam--For 2.3 Million U. S. Veterans: A New Way of Life",S. News & World Report, Op. Cit., p. 22.

20Patrick Butler, Op. Cit., p. 255.

21"Wasted Men--The Reality of the Vietnam Veteran", Southern Illinois University,Op. Cit., p. V4.

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leaves the Vietnam veteran coming off second best to the World War II veteran. Important

differences include a different social environment, the real value of cash in pocket

provision, added restrictions, and eliminated features."

Flieger22 says that with the rising cost of going to school it is questionable that

$220 for single veterans, with more for married veterans, can go as far now as did the

G.I. Bill benefits after World War II. Ognibene23 agrees with Flieger in expressing

his concerns for finances. He says that if a Vietnam veteran wants to further his education

he will find that the G.I. Bill barely covers the cost of tuition at many schools. He

goes on to statethat if the veteran cannot get financial support from the school itself

he'll probably require a part-time job--if he can find one.

"A generation ago, the G.I. Bill was the economic escalator for millions of

American veterans, but today it is being used by only a harctftd of the men who need

it most. n24 "Bigger Benefits For Veterans But No Rush of Takers 1125 supports the

conclusion that veterans are not getting their benefits.

Research on Employability of the Returning Veteran: Many veterans are returning

home in the hopes of acquiring some type of training to utilize their skills. On employ-

ment Time said, "Veterans of World War II returned to a grateful, generous country that

was about to embark on an unprecedented quarter-century of prosperity. Korean war

22Howard Flieger, Op. Cit.

23Ognibene, Op. Cit., p. 309.

24William Greider, "G.I. Bill Fails to Attract Many Veterans of Vietnam",The Washington Post, March 30, 1969, p. A4.

25,Benefits for Veterans but No Rush of Takers," U.S. News & World Report,

February 1, 1971, p. 48.

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veterans cashed in on much the same rising curve of material benefits. Viet Nam

vets, by contrast, are the dubious beneficiaries of the nations immediate troubled

past and uneasy future.

"Unsung, disproportionately poor and poorly educated, G.I.'s have been drifting

back frc Viet Nam toface unenthusiastic employers and--in the vets' view--sometimes

unsympathetic officials of the Veterans Administration."26

Ognibene27 also expressed a concern for the Administration's apparent lack of

concern for the Vietnam vet in employment. The unemployment rate for young Vietnam

veterans was quoted as being almost twice the national average and that veterans, ages

20 to 24, have an unemployment rate of about 11 percent. A Lou Harris survey was

quoted as finding 15 percent of all Vietnam veterans unemployed. He went on to say

that apparently, of those who had been employed, little help had been received by the

government. Harris concluded that only 4 percent had been,"materially helped" by local

employment officers in getting a job offer.

Butler28 said that while today's veterans have good reason to feel that they've

upgraded their ambitions, awareness,and job skills while in the service, yet they freq-

uently have problems translating those assets into something saleable on the civilian

labor market. The most obvious difficulty lies with those who were trained and used

26 Veterans--Forgotten Warriors", Time.

27Ognibene, Op. Cit., p. 308.

28 Patrick Butler, Op. Cit., pp. 255-256.

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strictly for combat service in Vietnam. Even those with more marketable items such

as electronics technicians, metal workers, paramedics, etc., are finding fields closed

because of union quotas or degree requirements. Butler pointed out that despite all

the recruiting ads stressing the military's hundreds of job-training programs, that a

recently conducted Veterans World Project survey showed that 89 percent of the 530

contacted had no way of using any of their training on the jobs they presently hold.

Outreach Services Programs and other actions needed: "(a) The Congress of

the United States declares that the outreach services program authorized by this sub-

chapter is for the purpose of insuring that all veterans, especially those who are

recently separated and those who are eligible for readjustment or other benefits and

services under laws administered by the Veterans' Administration and under other

governmental programs, received personalized educational, vocational, social sciences

and job placement assistance with respect to their entitlement, to those benefits and

services in order to aid them in applying for and obtaining such benefits and services

and further education and training or employment and, in the case of veterans, achieving

a rapid social and economic readjustment to civilian life and higher standard of living

for them and their dependents:129

29Education and training for Veterans, Hearing before the subcommittee onVeterans Affairs, 91st Congress, first session, from legislation to amend title 38of the United States code concerning education and training for veterans, June 24,25, and 26, 1969 (Part 1), p. 43.

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The Veterans World Project3° reports that time is critically short and that the

only way to develop a new national policy for veterans before losing or wasting millions

of precious human beings is to proceed with the needed research and planning, in con-

junction with a simultaneous action, experimentation,' and the greatest possible variety

of pilot and demonstration programs and support of individual activities.

Summary: It is possible to draw several conclusions in the review of the research.

1) There appears to be some degree of resentment by the Vietnam veterans

because of the special attention given to the POW's upon their return, not

necessarily because the POW's were given too much or even enough, but

rather because the other veterans received virtually no welcomes.

2) Concerns have been expressed on how these veterans will be paid for

their service, especially those who have paid the highest price--some degree

of physical or mental disability.

3) The aftermath of an undesired and unsupported war is leaving the Vietnam

veteran with an array of problems never before faced by veterans of this country.

4) The G.1. Bill is not thought to be adequate to serve the needs of the veterans

of this country in the face of rising cost of schooling and inflation.

30,. Wasted Men--The Reality of the Vietnam Veteran", Southern Illinois University,Op. Cit., p. 1-13.

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5) A small number of Vietnam-era veterans, in comparison to World War II

and the Korean conflict veterans, are using the available benefits.

6) There is a high level of concern for the employability of a veteran return-

ing to civilian life with job qualifications not fitting the needs of the job

market. Additional concerns are, what is being done to make the veteran

more employable and how useful local Employment Secur''y Departments

rea I ly are .

7) There are expressed concerns for further research.

In light of the above conclusions, this study was undertaken in an effort to con-

struct a profile of the veteran attending Community Colleges in Washington State

hopefully to give some specific indications as to how we might better serve them.

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METHODS AND PROCEDURES

A. Construction of the Instrument

The survey instrument, known as a Survey of Veterans Attending Community

Colleges in Washington State, contained a core of 51 common questions. The items

selected for inclusion in the construction of the measuring instrument were categorized

into eight separate areas. The information was organized into eight separate areas.

The information was organized in this manner for easy access to specific concerns.

11311 The first area consisted of five questions on General Information (sex, age, marital

status, etc.); the second area of ten questions dealt with service information (branch

of service, age at entry into service, years of active clufy, etc.); the third area

uunsisted of four questions on education (number of years of education, number of

credit hours, etc.); the fourth consisted of twelve questions on employment (number

of jobs held since separation, does spouse work, has welfare been received, etc.);

the fifth area consisted of six questions on the G.I. Bill (was adequate information

received before separation, are benefits adequate, etc.); the sixth area consisted of

six questions related to Veterans Outreach Programs (how they heard about Veterans

Outreach, how they rate Outreach services, whether they think Outreach should be

made available permanently, etc.); the seventh area consisted of seven questions

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(five fill-in) on occupation, including two miscellaneous questions, one on the State

Bonus and one on a state G.I. Bill; the eighth area consisted of one question relating

to the veteran's knowledge of dental benefits. A copy of the questionnaire is reproduced

as Appendix B.

B. Participating Institutions

Questionnaires were received from students in 23 of the 27 Community Colleges

in Washington state. Four of the 27 Community Colleges did not participate in this

survey either because the coordinator failed to comply with the request, or as in one

case, the institution refused to allow the coordinator to participate even though the

coordinator desired to. A complete list of participating institutions is reproduced as

Appendix C.

C. The Sample

The sample consisted of veterans attending Community Colleges on two levels;

1) Outreach Veterans: those veterans entering and attending community college through

the Veterans Outreach Program, Spring quarter, 1973. 2) Non-Outreach Veterans: an

approximate ten percent sample of those veterans already existing at the Community

College before Veterans Outreach, ranging from pay problems to counseling. For the

purpose of defining the overall picture of veterans in attendance at two-year institutions

in Washington State, both groups were combined.

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Some schools elected to sample both Outreach Veterans and Non-Outreach

Veterans and some schools elected just to sample one of the two (see Appendix C)0

D. Methods of Obtaining Data

The instrument was distributed to the Veterans Outreach Coordinators of all

twenty-seven Community Colleges throughout the State of Washington. Instructions

on how to use the instrument were given to the coordinators through personal interview

at a meeting of all coordinators. The coordinators were instructed to randomly sample

the veterans on their campus using different times throughout the school day and night

to acquire a well-rounded sample. These instructions were followed up by two phone

calls to each coordinator to answer any specific questions in the use of the instrument.

The coordinators were initially informed of the survey via letter (reproduced as Appendix

A).

Some of the schools sampled their Spring quarter students during pre-registration,

which took place at the end of Winter quarter. Spring quarter is a period of time which

varies slightly from school to school (March to June).

E. Questionnai re Returns.

The return of the questionnaires did not present a problem, as the veterans filled

out the questionnaires in the presence of the coordinator and it was collected at that time.

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ANALYSIS OF THE DATA

The purpose of this study was to acquire basic information about veterans

attending Community Colleges in Washington State and some of the services that

are available to the veteran. The data is analysed by individual school (outreach

and non-outreach), and by the total number of veterans sampled in the state,

including a break-down of the state data into outreach and non-outreach. Com-

ments are also expressed on some of the data tables. All data received in this

survey is presented in its raw form (see Tables la through 45b); with the exception

of the fill-in questions. The data was analysed by the Sumstat program (on an IBM

360/40 computer) available at Western Washington State College.

The individual analysis are located on the following pages:

SCHOOL PAGE

T Total (Outreach and Non-outreach) 123

0 Outreach (State Total) 125

N-0 Non-outreach (State Total) 127

BBCC Big Bend Community College 129

CSCC Central Seattle Community College 135

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CCC Centralia Community College 137

C LCC C lark Community Co I lege 139

CBCC Columbia Basin Community College 143

EVCC Everett Community College 146

FSCC Fort Steilacoorn Community College 151

GRCC Green River Community College 154

GHCC Grays Harbor Community College 156

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SSCC South Seattle Community College 180

TCC Tacoma Community College 182

WWCC Walla Walla Community College 184

WVCC Wenatchee Valley Community College 188

WCC Whatcom Community College 191

YVCC Yakima Valley Community College 194

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COMMENTS:

1. Most of the total veterans became aware of their being

eligible for the G.I. Bill in the service.

2. 9.81% from a local veterans organization.

3. 8.82% from their Veterans Outreach Program.

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AVERAGE VETERAN ATTENDINGA WASHiNGTON STATE COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average veteran attending a community college Spring quarter 1973 in Wqsh-

ington State is a male caucasian, 24 to 25 years old, married, with 1 or 2 depen-

dents.

He entered the U.S. Army at the age of eighteen in 1969, served three years of

active duty, did not serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connected disability,

and was discharged in 1973 .

He has acquired twelve years of education, consisting of a high school diploma or

G.E.D. (most likely a high school diplomc.). He is taking fifteen or more quarter hours,

and he is attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service and is now unemployed after holding

three or more jobs since separation. He has been unemployed from one to three months

and is not drawing unemployment compensation. He has mixed opinions about rating the

services he received from the Employment Security Department. He does not feel that his

job training in the military is applicable to civilian jobs. His wife is unemployed, he has

neither applied for nor received food stamps,and he has not received welfare since his dis-

charge.

He feels that he received adequate information about veterans services prior to being

separated from the military. He first became aware of the G.I. Bill and how to go about

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using it during active duty in the service. Although he knew the G.I. Bill existed,

he has not used it previously because he did not know how to go about getting it.

He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking to

an outreach worker he was unaware that he would pay a lower tuition rate at most

schools if he were a Vietnam veteran and that tutorial assistance was available.

The Veterans Outreach services meets his needs, and he thinks that these services

should be made available on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks that all veterans should be eligible for the state bonus.

He would support a state G.I. Bill in addition to the Federal G.I. Bill to pay

the total community college tuition for all Vietnam-era veterans.

He knows that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental work done

as long as he gets it done within one year from his discharge.

COMMENTS:

1. See Tables la thru 45b

2. See Summary, Conclusions, and Implications

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AVERAGE OUTREACH VETERAN ATTENDINGA WASHINGTON STATE COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average outreach veteran attending a community college, Spring quarter

1973, in Washington State, is a male caucasian, 22 to 23 years old, married, with

two dependents.

He entered the U.S. Army at the age of eighteen in 1969, served three years

of active duty, did not serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connected dis-

ability, and was discharged in 1972.

He has acquired twelve years of education, consisting of a high school diploma

or G.E.D. (most likely Ci high school diploma). He is taking twelve or more quarter

hours and is attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service and is now unemployed after

holding three or more jobs since separation. He has been unemployed from one to

three months and is not drawing unemployment compensation. He has mixed opinions

about how he would rate the services he received form the Employment Security Depart-

ment. He does not feel that his job training in the military is applicable to civilian

jobs. His wife is unemployed, he has neither applied for nor received food stamps, and

has not received welfare since his discharge.

He did receive adequate information about veterans services prior to being sep-

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arated from the military. He first became aware of the G.I. Bill and how to go

about using it during active duty in the service. He has not used the G.I. Bill

previously even though he knew it existed but did not know how to go about get-

ting it.

He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talk-

ing to an outreach worker he did not know that he could pay a lower tuition rate

at most schools if he were a Vietnam veteran and that tutorial assistance was avail-

able. He believes the Veterans Outreach services meets his needs and thinks that

these services should be made available on a permanent basis at the individual

institutions.

He thinks that all veterans should be eligible for the state bonus.

He would support-a State G.I. Bill in addition to the Federal G.I. Bill to

help pay the veterans' total tuition at the Community College level.

He knows that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental work

done as long as he gets it done within one year from discharge.

COMMENTS:

1. See Tables 1a thru 45b

2. See Summary, Conclusions, and Implications

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AVERAGE NON-OUTREACH VETERAN ATTENDINGA WASHINGTON STATE COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average non-outreach veteran attending a community college Spring quarter

1973 in Washington State is a male caucasian, 24 to 25 years old, married, with

one dependent.

He entered the U.S. Army at the age of eighteen in 1969, served three years of

active duty, did not serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connected disability,

and was discharged in 1972.

He has acquired twelve years of education consisting of a high school diploma or

G.E.D. (most likely a high school diploma). He is taking fifteen or more quarter

hours and is attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service and is now unemployed after holding

three or more jobs since separation. He has been unemployed from one to three months

and is not drawing unemployment compensation. He has mixed opinions about how he

would rate the services he has received from the Employment Security Department. He

does not feel that his job training in the military is applicable to civilian jobs. His

wife is unemployed, and he has neither applied for nor received food stamps, and he

has not received welfare since his discharge.

He did receive adequate information about veterans services prior to being separated

from the military. He first became aware of the G.I. Bill and how to go about using it

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during active duty in the service. He has used the G.I. Bill previously.

He heard about Veterans Outreachthrough personal contact. Before talking

to an outreach worker he did not know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at

most schools if he were a Vietnam veteran and that tutorial assistance was avail-

able. He rates the Veterans Outreach services as meeting his needs and thinks that

these services should be made available on a permanent basis at the individual instit-

utions.

He thinks that all veterans should be eligible for the state bonus.

He would support a State G.I. Bill in addition to the Federal G.I. Bill to help

pay the veterans' total tuition at the Community College level.

He knows that the Federal Government will pay for all of his dental work as long

as it is done within one year from his discharge.

COMMENTS:

1. See Tables la thru 45b

2. See Summary, Conclusions, and Implications

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BIG BEND COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average outreach veteran attending Big Bend Community College, Spring

quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, 24 to 25 years old.

He entered the U.S. Army at the age of 17 or 19 in 1969, served two years

of active duty, did serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connected disability,

and was discharged in 1971.

He has acquired twelve years of education, consisting of a high school diploma

or G.E.D. (most likely a high school diploma). He is taking fifteen or more quarter

hours and is attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service and has held three or more jobs

since separation. He is not drawing unemployment compensation and has mixed opin-

ions about how he would rate the services he received from the Employment Security

Department. He may or may not feel that his job training in the military is applicable

to civilian jobs. He has neither applied for nor received food stamps and has not

received welfare since his discharge.

He may or may not have received adequate information about veterans services

prior to being separated from the military. He first became aware of the G.I. Bill

and how to go about using it during active duty in the service. He has used the G.I.

Bill previously.

He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking to

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an outreach worker he did know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at most schools

if he were a Vietnam veteran and that tutorial assistance was available. He believes

the Veterans Outreach services meets his needs and thinks that these services should

be made available on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks that veterans, whether they were in Vietnam or not, should not be

eligible for the state bonus.

He would support a State G.I. Bill to pay the veterans' total tuiiion at the

Community College level.

He knows that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental work

done as long as he gets it done within one year from discharge.

COMMENTS:

1. The number of outreach veterans sampled at BBCC who were 17 years old

at entry into the service is considerably higher than the state total (State - 21.37%

BBCC - 33.33%).

2. BBCC appears to have a much higher percentage of draftees among their

outreach veterans than the other state schools (State - 24.11% BBCC - 41.16%).

3. A high percentage of BBCC's outreach veterans take 6 to 8 credits, in

comparison to the rest of the State (State - 7.16% BBCC - 25%).

4. Throughout the state only 4.16% of the outreach veterans heard about

Veterans Outreach by radio, however, at BBCC 25% of the outreach veterans heard

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about outreach through the radio.

5. 75% of the BBCC's outreach veterans did not know about tutorial assistance,

before talking to an outreach worker compared to 61.60% of the State total.

6. 75% of BBCC's outreach veterans feel their needs were totally met by Veterans

Outreach compared to 40.38% of the state total. These percentages indicate an extreme-

ly good job is being done by BBCC's Veterans Outreach office.

7. 100% of BBCC's outreach veterans feel the Veterans Outreach services should

be made available permanently compared to 72.47% of the State total.

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BIG BEND COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average non-outreach veteran attending Big Bend Community College, Spring

quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, 22 to 23 years old, single, with no dependents.

He entered the U.S. Army at the age of 18 or 19 from August 5, 1964 to 1968,

served three to six years of active duty, did serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service

connected disability, and was discharged in 1971.

He has acquired twelve years of education, consisting of a high school diploma

or G.E.D. (most likely a high school diploma). He is taking six to eight quarter hours

and is attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service and is now unemployed after holding

three or more jobs since separation. He is not drawing unemployment compensation.

He has been unemployed from four to nine months and did not use the Employment

Security Department,services. He does not feel that his job training in the military is

applicable to civilian jobs. He has neither applied for nor received food stamps, and

has not received welfare since his discharge.

He did not receive adequate information about veterans services prior to being

separated from the military. He first became aware of the G.I. Bill and how to go about

using it during active duty in the service. He has not used the G.I. Bill previously.

He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking to an

outreach worker he did know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at most schools if he

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were a Vietnam veteran and did not know that tutorial assistance was available. He

believes the Veterans Outreach services meets his needs and thinks that these services

should be made available on a permanent basis.

He thinks all veterans should not be eligible for the state bonus.

He would support a State G.I. Bill in addition to the Federal G.I. Bill to pay the

veterans total tuition at the Community College level.

He knows that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental work done

as long as he gets it done within one year after discharge.

COMMENTS:

1. A high percentage of BBCC's non-outreach veterans are taking six to eight

credits in comparison to the rest of the state (State - 7.16% BBCC - 45.45%).

2. Throughout the state only 2.35% of the non-outreach veterans heard about

Veterans Outreach by radio, however, at BBCC 27.27% of the non-outreach veterans

heard about Outreach through the radio. Throughout the state 3272% of the non-

outreach veterans heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact and at

BBCC 45.45% heard through personal contact.

3. 81.82% of BBCC's non-outreach veterans did not know about tutorial assistance

before talking to an outreach worker compared to 61.60% of the state total.

4. 63.64% of BBCC's non-outreach veterans feel their needs were totally met by

Veterans Outreach (with none feeling that their needs were not met) compared to 40.38%

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of the state total.

5. 100% of BBCC's non-outreach veterans feel Veterans Outreach services

should be made available permanently compared to 72.47% of the state total.

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CENTRAL SEATTLE COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average non-outreach veteran attending Central Seattle Community College,

Spring quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, 24 to 25 years old, single, with no dependents.

He entered the U.S. Army at the age of eighteen years in 1969, served two years

of active duty, did not serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connected disability,

and was discharged in 1971.

He has acquired one to three years of advanced training with no college degrees.

He is taking twelve or more quarter hours and is attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service and is now unemployed after hold-

ing three or more jobs since separation. He has been unemployed over twenty-four months

and is not drawing unemployment compensation, with mixed opinions on how he would rate

the services he received from the Employment Security Department. He does not feel that

his job training in the military is applicable to civilian jobs. He has neither applied for

nor received food stamps and has not received welfare since his discharge.

He did not receive adequate information about veterans services prior to being

separated from the military. He first became aware of the G. I. Bill and how to go about

using it during active duty in the service. He has used the G.I. Bill previously.

He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking to an

outreach worker he did not know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at most schools if

he were a Vietnam veteran and that tutorial assistance was available. He believes the

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Veterans Outreach services meets his needs and thinks that these services should be made

available on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks that all veterans should be eligible for the state bonus.

He would support a State G.I. Bill in addition to the Federal G.I. Bill to pay the

veterans' total tuition at the Community College level.

He knows that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental work done as

long as he gets it done within one year after he gets out of the service.

COMMENTS:

1. SCCC has -a considerably higher representation of blacks in its non-outreach

sample (25.47%) than the majority of the schools (State 5.63%).

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CENTRALIA COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average non-outreach veteran attending Centralia Community College, Spring

quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, 24 to 25 years old, married, with one dependent.

He entered the U.S. Army at the age of eighteen in 1968, served two years of

active duty, did serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connected disability, and was

discharged in 1970.

He has acquired twelve years of education, consisting of a high school diploma or

G.E.D. (most likely a high school diploma). He is taking fifteen or more quarter hours and

is attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service and has held three or more jobs since

separation. He is not drawing unemployment compensation. He feels his needs were not met

by the Employment Security Department. He does not feel that his job training in the military

is applicable to civilian jobs. His wife is employed, he has neither applied for nor received

food stamps, and has not received welfare since his discharge.

He did not receive adequate information about veterans services prior to being sep-

arated from the military. He first became aware of the G.I. Bill and how to go about using

it during active duty in the service. He has not used the G. I. Bill previously even though

he knew it existed but did not know how to go about getting it.

He heard about Veterans Outreach throuah personal contact. Before talking to an

L.),. `;.each worker he did not know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at most schools if

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he were a Vietnam veteran and that tutorial assistance was available. He believes the

Veterans Outreach services meets his needs and thinks that these services should be made

available on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks all veterans should be eligible for the state bonus.

He would support a State G.I. Bill in addition to the Federal G.I. Bill to pay the

veterans' total tuition at the Community College level.

He knows that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental work done

as long as he gets it done within one year after he gets out of the service.

COMMENTS:

1. 35.85% of CCC's non-outreach veterans feel their needs were not met by the

Employment Security Department, compared to the state total (19.01%).

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CLARK COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average outreach veteran attending Clark Community College, Spring

quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, 22 to 23 years old, married, with 2 or 3

dependents.

He entered the U.S. Army at the age of 17 or 18 years old in 1969, ser-

ved 3 years of active duty, didn't serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service

connected disability, and was discharged in 1972.

He has acquired 12 years of education, consisting of a high school diploma

or G.E.D. (most likely a high school diploma). He is taking 12 to 14 quarter

hours and is attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service and is new unemployed after

hc!ding three or more jobs since separation. He has been unemployed from one

to three months and is not drawing unemployment compensation. He has mixed

opinions on how he would rate the services he received from the Employment

Security Department. He feels his job training in the military is applicable to

civilian jobs. His wife is unemployed, he has neither applied for nor received

food stamps, and has not received welfare since his discharge.

He may or may not have received adequate information about veterans ser-

vices prior to being separated from the military. He first became aware of the

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G.I. Bill and how to go about using it during active duty in the service. He has

not used the G.I. Bill previously even though he knew it existed because he did

not know how to go about getting it.

He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking

to an outreach worker he did not know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at

most schools if he were a Vietnam veteran and that tutorial assistance was and is

available. He believes, generally the Veterans Outreach services meets his needs

and thinks that these services should be made available on a permanent basis at the

individual institutions.

He thinks that veterans, whether they be Vietnam veterans or not, should be

eligible for the state bonus.

He would support a state G.I. Bill in addition to the Federal Gol. Bill for all

Vietnam-era veterans in order to pay the veterans total tuition at the Community

College level.

He knows that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental work done

as long as he gets it done within one year after he leaves the service.

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CLARK COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average non-outreach veteran attending Clark Community College, Spring

quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, 22 to 25 years old, married, with one or two depend-

ents.

ti He entered the U.S. Army at the age of seventeen in 1969, served two years of

active duty, did not serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connected disability,

and was discharged in 1971.

He has acquired twelve years of education, consisting of a high school diploma

or G.E.D. (most likely a high school diploma). He is taking twelve or more quarter

hours and is attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service and is now unemployed after hold-

ing three or more jobs since separation. He has been unemployed from one to three months

and is not drawing unemployment compensation. He has mixed feelings on how he would

rate the services he received from the Employment Security Department. He does not feel

that his job training in the military is applicable to civilian jobs. His wife may or may not

be employed, he has neither applied for nor received food stamps, and has not received

welfare since his discharge.

He may or may not have received adequate information about veterans services prior

to being separated from the military. He first became aware of the G.I. Bill and how to go

about using it during active duty in the service. He has not used the G.I. Bill previously

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even though he knew it existed but did not know how to go about getting it.

He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking to

an outreach worker he did not know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at most schools

if he were a Vietnam veteran and that tutorial assistance was available. He believes

the Veterans Outreach services meets his needs and thinks that these services should be

AIL

made available on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks that all veterans should be eligible for the state bonus.

He would support a State G.1. Bill in addition to the Federal G.1. Bill to pay the

veterans' total tuition at the Community College level.

He knows that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental work done as

long as he gets it done within one year after he gets out of the service.

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COLUMBIA BASIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average non-outreach veteran attending Columbia Basin Community College,

Spring quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, thirty or more years old, married, with two or

four dependents.

He entered the U.S. Army at the age of seventeen before 1960, served one to two

years of active duty, did not serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connected dis-

ability, and was discharged from 1960 to August 4, 1964.

He has acquired twelve years of education, consisting of a high school diploma

or G.E.D. (most likely a high school diploma). He is taking fifteen or more quarter hours

and is attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service and is now unemployed after holding

three or more jobs since separation. He has been unemployed from one to three months and

is not drawing unemployment compensation. He has mixed opinions on how he would rate

the services he received from the Employment Security Department. He does not feel that

his job training in the military is applicable to civilian jobs. His wife is unemployed, he

has neither applied for nor received food stamps, and has not received welfare since his

discharge.

He may or may not have received adequate information about veterans services

prior to being separated from the military. He f:-7-1- became aware of the G.I. Bill from

outreach programs or during active duty in the service and how to go about using it during

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active duty. He has used the G.I. Bill previously.

He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking to an

outreach worker he did not know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at most schools if

he were a Vietnam veteran and that tutorial assistance was available. He believes the

Veterans Outreach services meets his needs and thinks that these services should be made

available on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks that all veterans should be eligible for the State bonus..

He would support a State G.I. Bill in addition to the Federal G.I. Bill to pay the

veterans' total tuition at the Community College level.

He may or may not know that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dent&

work done as long as he gets it done within one year after he gets out of the service.

COMMENTS:

1. The number of non-outreach veterans sampled at CBCC who were seventeen years

old at entry into the service is considerably higher than the state total (State - 21.37%

CBCC 34.62%).

2. 76.92% of CBCC's non-outreach veterans did not know before talking to an out-

reach worker about lower tuition at most schools for Vietnam veterans, compared to 51.33%

of the state total.

3. 76.92% of CBCC's non-outreach veterans did not know about tutorial assistance

compared to 61.60% of the state total.

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4. 61.54% of CBCC's non-outreach veterans feel that their needs were totally

met by Veterans Outreach.

5. CBCC has a considerably higher portion of their non-outreach sample in the

thirty or over age bracket (53.85%) than the majority of the participating institutions

State - 24.94%).

6. 19.23% of CBCC's non-outreach veterans have four dependents, while the

state total only reflects 7%. 11.54% of CBCC's non-outreach veterans have six or more

dependents with the state total only 2.89%.

7. 30.77% of CBCC's non-outreach veterans have a service connected disability

compared to 14.83% of the state total.

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EVERETT COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average outreach veteran attending Everett Community College, Spring

quarter 1973, is a male caucasian,, 26 to 27 years old, married, with two depend-

ents.

He entered the U.S. Army at the age of eighteen in 1966, served three years

of active duty, did serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connected disability,

and was discharged in 1969.

He has acquired twelve years of education, consisting-of a high school diploma

or G.E.D. (most likely a high school degree) He is taking 12 to 14 quarter hours

and is attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service and is now unemployed after

holding three or more jobs since separation. He's been unemployed from one to three

months and is not drawing unemployment compensation. He feels his needs were met

by the Employment Security Department. He does not feel that his job training in the

military is applicable to civilian jobs. His wife-is unemployed, he has neither applied

for nor received food stamps, and he has not received welfare since his discharge.

He may or may not have received adequate information about veterans services

prior to being separated from the military. He first became aware of the G.I. Bill

and how to go about using it during active duty in the service. He has not used the

G.1. Bill previously even though he knew it existed, but did not know how to go

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about getting it.

He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking

to an outreach worker he did not know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at

most schools if he were a Vietnam veteran and that tutorial assistance was available

He believes the Veterans Outreach services meets his needs and thinks that these

services should be made available on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks that veterans, whether they served in Vietnam or not should be

eligible for the state bonus.

He would support a State G.1. Bill in addition to the Federal G.1. Bill to

pay the veterans' total tuition at the Community College level.

He doesn't know that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental

work done as long as he gets it done within one year after he gets out of the service.

COMMENTS:

1. A high percentage of EVCC's outreach veterans are taking 6 to 8 credits

in comparison to the rest of the state. (State - 7.16% EVCC - 17.78%)

2,, 73.33% of EVCC's outreach veterans did not know about tutorial assistance

before talking to an outreach worker compared to 61.60% of the state total.

3. 77.78% of EVCC's outreach veterans did not know about lower tuition

at most schools for Vietnom veterans compared to 51.23% of the state total.

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4. 84.44% of EVCC's outreach veterans feel that their needs were totally

met by Veterans Outreach (with none feeling their needs were not met) compared

to 40.38% of the state total. (This indicates an extremely good and effective job

is being done by EVCC's Veterans Outreach office.)

5. 88.89% of EVCC's outreach veterans feel that the Veterans Outreach

services should be made available permanently compared to 72.47% of the state

total.

6. 15.56% of EVCC's outreach veterans have acquired 9 to 11 years of

education, and 4.44% from 1 to 8 years of education, compared to 5.17% from

9 to 11 years and 1.29% from 1 to 8 years, reflected in the state total.

70 -26.67% of EVCC's outreach first became aware of how to go about

using the G.I. Bill from the Veterans Outreach program compared to 13.99%

of the state total.

8. 48.89% of EVCC's outreach veterans heard about Veterans Outreach by

personal contact compared to 3475% of the state total.

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EVERETT COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average non-outreach veteran attending Everett Community College, Spring

quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, 24 to 25 years old, married, with three dependents.

He entered the U.S. Army at the age of nineteen in 1969, served two years of

active duty, did not serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connected disability,

and was discharged in 1971.

He has acquired twelve years of education, consisting of a high school diploma

or G.E.D. (most likely a high school diploma). He is taking fifteen or more quarter hours

and is attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service and is now unemployed after holding

three or more jobs since separation. He has been unemployed from one to three months and

is not drawing unemploy,nt compensation, with mixed opinions on how he would rate the

services received from the Employment Security Department. He feels that his job training

in the military is applicable to civilian jobs. His wife is unemployed, he has neither applied

for nor received food stamps, and has not received welfare since his discharge.

He did receive adequate information about veterans services prior to being discharged

from the military. He first became aware of the G.I Bill and how to go about using it dur-

ing active duty in the service. He has used the G.I. Bill previously.

He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking to an

outreach worker he may or may not have known that he could pay a lower tuition rate at

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most schools if he were a Vietnam veteran and did not know that tutorial assistance was

available. He believes the Veterans Outreach services meets his needs and thinks that

these services should be made available on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks that all veterans should be eligible for the state bonus.

He-would support a State G.I. Bill in addition to the Federal G. I. Bill to pay the

veterans' total tuition at the Community College level.

He knows that the Federc! Government will pay to have all his dental work done

as long as he gets it done within one year after he gets out of the service.

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FORT STEILACOOM COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average outreach veteran attending Fort Steilacoom Community College,

Spring quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, 22 to 23 years old, married, with two

dependents.

He entered the U.S. Army at the age of eighteen in 1969, served three years

of active duty, did serve in Vietnam, did receive a service connected disability,

and was discharged in 1972.

He has acquired twelve years of education consisting of a high school diploma

or G.E.D. (most likely a high school diploma). He is taking fifteen or more quarter

hours and is attending day classes.

He was employe4...e.fare entry into the service and is unemployed after holding

one job since separation. He's been unemployed from one to three months and is not

drawing unemployment compensation. He feels his needs were met by Employment

Security. He does not feel that his job training in the military is applicable to

civilian jobs. His wife is unemployed, he has neither applied for nor received food

stamps, and has not received welfare since his discharge.

He did not receive adequate information about veterans services prior to being

separated from the military. He first became aware of the G.I. Bill and how to go

about using it during active duty in the service. He has not used the G.I. Bill

previously even though he knew it existed but did not know how to go about getting it.

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He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking

to an outreach worker he did not know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at most

schools if he were a Vietnam veteran and that tutorial assistance was available. He

rates the Veterans Outreach services as meeting his needs and thinks that these ser-

vices should be made available on a permanent- basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks that all veterans should be eligible for the state bonus.

He would support a State G.I. Bill in addition to the Federal Bill to pay

the veterans' total tuition at the community college level.

He knows that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental work

done as long as he gets it done within one year after he gets out of the service.

COMMENTS:

1. 65% of FSCC's outreach veterans did not know, before talking to an out-

reach worker, about lower tuition at most schools for Vietnam veterans compared to

51.33% of the state total.

2. FSCC has a considerably higher portion of their outreach sample in the

30 or over age bracket (45%) than the majority of the participating Institutions.

(State - 24.94%)

3. FSCC has a considerably higher representation of blacks in its outreach

sample (27.50%) than the majority of the schools (State - 5.36%).

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4. 15% of FSCC's outreach veterans have four dependents while the state

total only reflects 7%.

5. 2750% of FSCC's outreach veterans have a service connected disability'

compared to 14.83% of the state total.

6. 12.50% of FSCC's outreach veterans have acquired nine to eleven years

of education compared to 5.17% of the state total.

7. 32.50% of FSCC's outreach veterans heard about Veterans by newspapers

compared to 5.78% of the state total. 17.50% of FSCC's outreach veterans heard

about Veterans Outreach by letter compared to 4.18% of the state total.

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GREEN RIVER COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average non-outreach veteran attending Green River Community College,

Spring quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, 24 to 25 years old, married, with one or three

dependents.

He entered the U.S. Navy at the age of eighteen in 1968, served three years of

active duty, did serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connected disability, and

was discharged in 1971.

He has acquired twelve years of education, consisting of a high school diploma

or G.E.D. (most likely a high school diploma). He is taking twelve or more quarter hours

and is attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service. He has held three or more jobs

since separation and is not drawing unemployment compensation. He feels that his job

training in the military is applicable to civilian jobs. His wife is unemployed, and he

had neither applied for nor received food stamps, and has not received welfare since his

discharge.

He did receive adequate information about veterans services prior to being sep-

arated from the military. He first became aware of the G. I. Bill and how to go about

using it during active duty in the service. He has used the G.I. previously.

Before talking to an outreach worker he did know that he could pay a lower tuition

rate at most schools if he were a Vietnam veteran and did not know that tutorial assistance

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was availOble. He believes the Veterans Outreach services meets his needs and thinks that

these services should be made available on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks that all veterans should not be eligible for the state bonus.

He would support a State G.I. Bill in addition to the Federal G. I. Bill to pay the

veterans' total tuition at the Community College level..

He knows that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental work done

as long as he gets it done within one year after he gets out of the service.

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GRAYS HARBOR COMMUNiTY COLLEGE

The average outreach veteran attending Grays Harbor Community College,

Spring quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, 22 to 23 years old.

He entered the U.S. Army at the age of eighteen in 1962, served three years

of active duty, did serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connected disability,

and was discharged in 1972,

He has acquired twelve years of education, consisting of a high school diploma

or G.E.D. (most likely a high school diploma). He is taking fifteen or more quarter

hours and is attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service and is now unemployed after hold-

ing three or more jobs since separation. He's been unemployed from one to three months

and is not drawing unemployment compensation, with mixed opinions on how he would

rate the services he received from the Employment Security Department. He may or

may not feel that his job training in the military is applicable to civilian jobs. He has

neither applied for nor received welfare since his discharge.

He did receive adequate information about veterans services prior to being sep-

arated from the military. He first became aware of the G.I. Bill and how to go about

using it during active duty in the service. He has used the G.I. Bill previously.

He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking

to an outreach worker he did not know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at most

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schools if he were a Vietnam veteran and that tutorial assistance was available. He

believes the Veterans Outreach services meets his needs and thinks that these services

should be made available on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks that all veterans should be eligible for the state bonus.

He would support a State G.1. Bill in addition to the Federal G.1. Bill to pay

the veterans' total tuition at the Community College level.

He knows that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental work done

as long as he gets it done within one year after he gets out of the service.

COMMENTS:

1. 70% of GHCC's outreach veterans feel their needs were totally met by

Veterans Outreach compared to 40.38% of the state total (this indicates a good job

is being done at GHCC).

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HIGHLINE COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average outreach veteran attending High line Community College, Spring

quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, 28 to 29 years old, married, with one dependent.

He entered the U.S. Army at the age of nineteen from August 5, 1964 - 1968,

served three to six years of active duty, did serve in Vietnam, did not receive a ser-

vice connected disability, and was discharged in 1971.

He has acquired twelve years of education, consisting of a high school diploma

or G.E.D. (most likely a high school diploma). He is taking twelve to fourteen quarter

hours and is attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service and may or may not be employed

at this time. He is not drawing unemployment compensation, with mixed opinions about

how he would rate the services he received from the Employment Security Department.

He does not feel that his job training in the military is applicable to civilian jobs. His

wife is employed, he has neither applied for nor received food stamps, and has not

received welfare since his discharge.

He did not receive adequate information about veterans services prior to being

separated from the military. He first became aware of the G.I. Bill from a local veterans

organization and how to go about using it during active duty in the service. He has not

used the G.I. Bill previously even though he knew it existed but did not know how to go

about getting it.

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He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking

to an outreach worker he did not know that he, could pay a lower tuition rate at most

schools if he were a Vietnam veteran and that tutorial assistance was available. He

believes that the Veterans Outreach services meets his needs and thinks that these

services should be made available on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks that veterans, whether they were in Vietnam or not, should be eligible

for the state bonus.

He would not support a State G.I. Bill to pay the veterans total tuition at the

Community College level.

He doesn't know that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental

work done as long as he gets it done within one year after he gets out of the service.

COMMENTS:

1. The number of outreach veterans sampled at HCC, who were seventeen years

old at entry into the services is considerably lower than the state total (State - 26.37%

HCC - 3.23%) .

2. 87.10% of HCC's outreach veterans did not know before talking to an outreach

worker about the lower tuition at most schools for Vietnam veterans compared to 56.33%

of the state total.

3. 96.77% of HCC's outreach veterans did not know about tutorial assistance

before talking to an outreach worker compared to 61.60% of the state total.

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4. None of the outreach veterans at HCC feel their needs were not met.

5. 87.10% of HCC's outreach veterans feel the Veterans Outreach services

should be made available on a permanent basis compared to 72.47% of the state total.

6. 29003% of HCC's outreach veterans first became aware of how to go about

using the G.1. Bill from the Veterans Outreach program compared to 13.99% of the

state total.

7. 35.48% of HCC's outreach veterans heard about Veterans Outreach by personal

contact, compared to 4.18% of the state total.

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NORTH SEATTLE COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average non-outreach veteran attending North Seattle Community College,

Spring quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, 24 to 27 years old, married, with three depend-

ents.

He entered the U.S. Army at the age of eighteen years in 1967, served three

years of active duty, did not serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connected

disability, and was discharged in 1970.

He has acquired twelve years of education, consisting of a high school diploma

or G.E.D. (most likely a high school diploma). He is taking fifteen or more quarter hours

and is attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service and has held three or more jobs

since separation. He is not drawing unemployment compensation, with mixed opinions

on how he would rate the services he received from the Employment Security Department.

He does not feel that his job training in the military is applicable to civilian jobs. His

wife is unemployed, he has neither applied for nor received food stamps, and has not

received welfare since his discharge.

He did receive adequate information about veterans services prior to being separated

from the military. He first became aware of the G.I. Bill and how to go about using it

during active duty in the service. He has not used the G.I. Bill previously because he

knew it existed but did not know how to go about getting, it.

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He heard about Veterans Outreach through person& contact. Before talking to

an outreach worker he did not know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at most schools

if he were a Vietnam veteran and that tutorial assistance was available. He believes the

Veterans Outreach services meets his needs and thinks that these services should be made

available on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks that all veterans should be eligible for the state bonus.

He would support a State G. I. Bill in addition to the Federal G.I. Bill to pay the

veterans' total tuition at the Community College level.

He knows that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental work done

as long as you get it done within one year after he gets out of the service.

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OLYMPIC COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average non-outreach veteran attending Olympic Community College, Spring

quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, thirty years old or older, married, with three depend-

ents.

He entered the U.S. Navy at the age of eighteen from August 5, 1964 to 1968,

served three to six years of active duty, did not serve in Vietnam, did not receive a

service connected disability, and was discharged in 1971 or 1972.

He has acquired twelve years of education, consisting of a high school diploma or

G.E.D. (most likely a high school diploma). He is taking twelve to fourteen quarter hours

and is attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service and is now unemployed after holding

three or more jobs since separation. He has been unemployed from one to three months and

is not drawing unemployment compensation, with mixed opinions on how he would rate the

services he received from the Employment Security Department. He feels that his job train-

ing in the military is applicable to civilian jobs. His wife is unemployed, he has neither

applied for nor received food stamps, and has not received welfare since his discharge.

He did receive adequate information about veterans services prior to being separated

from the military. He first became aware of the G.I. Bill and how to go about using it

during active duty in the service. He has not used the G.I. Bill previously even though

he knew it existed but did notaknow how to go about getting it.

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He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking to an

outreach worker he did not know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at most schools

if he were a Vietnam veteran and tutorial assistance was available. He believes the

Veterans Outreach serves his needs and thinks that these services should be made available

on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks that all veterans should be eligible for the state bonus.

He would support a StateffG.I. Bill in addition to the Federal G.I. Bill to pay the

veterans' total tuition at the Community College level.

He knows that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental work done as

long as he gets it done within one year after he gets out of the service.

COMMENTS:

1. OCC has a considerably higher portion of their non-outreach sample in the

thirty or over age bracket (42.73%) than the majority of the participating institutions

(State - 24.94%).

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OLYMPIC VOCATIONAL AND TECHINCAL INSTITUTE

The average outreach veteran attending Olympic Vocational and Technical

Institute, Spring quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, 24 to 27 years old, married, with

one dependent.

He entered the U. S. Army at the age of eighteen in 1969, served three years

of active duty, did not serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connected disability,

and was discharged in 1972.

He has acquired twelve years of education, consisting of a high school diploma

or G.E.D. (most likely a high school diploma). He is taking six to eight quarter hours

and is attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service and is now unemployed after holding

three or more jobs since separation. He's been unemployed from one to three months and

is not drawing unemployment compensation. He feel his needs were partially met by the

Employment Security Department. He does not feel that his job training in the military

is applicable to civilian jobs. His wife is employed, he has neither applied for nor

received food stamps, and has not received welfare since his discharge.

He did receive adequate information about veterans services prior to being separated

from the military. He first became aware of the G.I. Bill and how to go about using it

during active duty in the service. He has not used the G.I. Bill previously because he

could not get correct information or was misinformed.

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He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking

to an outreach worker he did not know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at most

schools if he were a Vietnam veteran and that tutorial assistance is available. He

believes the Veterans Outreach services meets his needs and thinks that these services

should be made available on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks that all veterans should be eligible for the state bonus.

He would support a State G.I. Bill in addition to the Federal G .I. Bill to pay

the veterans' total tuition at the Community College level.

He knows that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental work done

as long as he gets it done within one year after he gets out of the service.

COMMENTS:

1. A high percentage of OVTI's outreach veterans are taking one to five credits

in comparison to the rest of the state (State - 7.91% OVTI - 20.69%). A high

percentage of OVTI's outreach veterans are taking six to eight credits in comparison

to the rest of the state (State - 7.16% OVTI - 55.17%).

2. 13.79% of OVTI's outreach veterans (26.67% of those who rated the program)

feel their needs were not met by Veterans Outreach, compared to 5.94% of the total

outreach veterans sampled.

3. OVTI has a considerably higher portion of their outreach sample in the thirty

or over age bracket (44.83%) than the majority of the participating institutions.

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PENINSULA COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average outreach veteran attending Peninsula Community College, Spring

quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, 20 to 21 years old.

He entered the U.S. Army at the age of eighteen in 1971, served three years of

active duty, did serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connected disability,

and was discharged in 1973.

He has acquired twelve years of education, consisting of a high school diploma

or G.E.D. (most likely a high school diploma). He is taking twelve or more quarter

hours and is attending both day and night classes.

He was employed before entry into the service and is now unemployed after hold-

ing three or more jobs since separation. He's been unemployed from one to three months

and is not drawing unemployment compensation. He feels that his needs were met by the

Employment Security Department. He may or may not feel that his job training in the

military is applicable to civilian jobs. He has neither applied for nor received food

stamps and has not received welfare since his discharge.

He did receive adequate information about veterans services prior to being separated

from the military. He first became aware of the G.I. Bill and how to go about using it

during active duty in the service. He has used the G.I. Bill previously.

He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking to an

outreach worker he did not know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at most schools if

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he were a Vietnam veteran and that tutorial assistance is available. He believes the

Veterans Outreach services meets his needs and thinks that these services should be

made available on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks that all veterans should be eligible for the state bonus.

He would support a State G.I. Bill in addition to the Federal G.I. Bill to pay

the veterans' total tuition at the Community College level.

He doesn't know that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental work

done as long as he gets it done within one year after discharge.

COMMENTS:

1. PCC appears to have a much higher percentage of draftees among its outreach

veterans than the other schools in general (State - 24.10% PCC - 66.67%).

2. 16.67% of PCC's outreach veterans have six or more dependents while the

state total only reflects 2.81 %,

3. 41.67% of PCC's outreach veterans feel their needs were met by the Employment

Security Department compared to the state total (21.60%).

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SHORELINE COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average outreach veteran attending Shoreline Community College, Spring

quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, 22 to 23 years old, married, with one dependent.

He entered the U.S. Army at the age of eighteen in 1969, served four years of

active duty, did not serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connected disability,

and was discharged in 1973.

He has acquired twelve years of education, consisting of a high school diploma

or G.E.D. (most likely a G.E.D.). He is taking 12 to 24 quarter hours and is attending

day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service and is now employed after holding

three or more jobs since separation. He's been unemployed from one to three months

and is not drawing unemployment compensation. He has mixed feelings about how he

would rate the services he received from the Employment Security Department. He

feels that his job training in the military is applicable to civilian jobs. His wife is

employed, he has neither applied for nor received food stamps, and has not received

welfare since his discharge.

He did receive adequate information about veterans services prior to being separated

from the military. He first became aware of the G.I. Bill and how to go about using it

during active duty in the service. He has not used the G.I. Bill previously even though

he knew it existed, but did not know how to go about using it or because he has been out

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of the service less than three months.

He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking

to an outreach worker he did not know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at most

schools if he were a Vietnam veteran and that tutorial assistance was available. He

believes the Veterans Outreach services meets his needs and thinks that these services

should be made available on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks that veterans, whether they were in Vietnam or not, should be eligible

for the state bonus.

He would support a State G.1. Bill in addition to the Federal G.I. Bill to pay

the veterans' total tuition at the Community College level.

He knows that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental work done

as long as he gets it done within one year after discharge.

COMMENTS:

1. 84.38% of SHCC's outreach veterans feel the Veterans Outreach services

should be made available permanently compared to 72.47% of the state total.

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SHORELINE COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average non-outreach veteran attending Shoreline Community College,

Spring quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, 22 to 25 years old, married, with one or

two dependents.

He entered the U.S. Army at the age of eighteen from August 5, 1964 to 1968,

served three to six years of active duty, did serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service

connected disability, and was discharged in 1971 or 1972.

He has acquired twelve years of education, consisting of a high school diploma

or G.E.D. (most likely a high school diploma). He is taking fifteen or more quarter

hours and is attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into.the service and is now unemployed after

holding three or more jobs since separation. He has been unemployed from one to three

months and is not drawing unemployment compensation. He feels his needs were met or

partially met by the Employment Security Department. He does not feel that his job

training in the military is applicable to civilian jobs. His wife is employed, and he

has neither applied for nor received food stamps. He has not received welfare since

his discharge.

He did receive adequate information about veterans services prior to being

separated from the military. He first became aware of the G.I. Bill and how to go

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about using it during active duty in the service. He has used the G.I. Bill previously.

He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking to

an outreach worker he did not know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at most schools

if he were a Vietnam veteran and that tutorial assistance was available . He believes

the Veterans Outreach services meets his needs and thinks that these services should be

made available on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks that veterans, whether they were in Vietnam or not should be eligible

for the state bonus.

He would support a State G.I. Bill in addition to the Federal G.1. Bill to pay

the veterans total tuition at the Community College level.

He knows that the Federol Government will pay to have all his dental work done

as long as he gets it done within one year after he gets out of the service.

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SKAGIT VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average outreach veteran attending Skagit Valley Community College,

Spring quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, 24 to 25 years old, married, with two

dependents.

He entered the U.S. Army at the age of nineteen in 1969, served three years

of active duty, did serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connected disability,

and was discharged in 1972.

.He has acquired twelve years of education, consisting of a high school diploma

or G.E.D (most likely a high school diploma). He is taking fifteen or more quarter

hours and is attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service and is now unemployed after

holding one job since separation. He has been unemployed from one to six months

and is not drawing unemployment compensation. He feels his needs were not met by

the Employment Security Department. He feels that his job training in the military

is applicable to civilian jobs. His wife is unemployed, he has neither applied for

nor received food stamps, and has not received welfare since his discharge.

He did receive adequate information about veterans services prior to being

separated from the military. He first became aware of the G.I. Bill and how to go

about using it during active duty in the service. He has used the G.I. Bill previously.

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He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking to

an outreach worker he did know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at most schools

if he were a Vietnam veteran and did not know that tutorial assistance is available.

He believes the Veterans Outreach services meets his needs and thinks that these

services should be made available on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks that all veterans should be eligible for the state bonus.

He would support a State G.I. Bill in addition to the Federal G.I. Bill to pay

the veterans' total tuition at the Community College level.

He knows that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental work done

as long as he gets it done within one year after he gets out of the service.

COMMENTS:

1. 37.50% of SVCC's outreach veterans feel their needs were not met by the

Employment Security Department, compared to the state total (19.01%).

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SPOKANE COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average outreach veteran attending Spokane Community College, Spring

quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, 26 to 27 years old, married, with three dependents.

He entered the U.S. Army at the age of seventeen in 1966, served three years

of active duty, did not serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connected disability,

and was discharged in 1969.

He has acquired twelve years of education, consisting of a high school diploma

or G.E.D. (most likely a G.E.D.). He is taking fifteen or more quarter hours and is

attending day classes.,

He was employed before entry into the service and has held three or more jobs

since separation. He is not drawing unemployment compensation. He feels his needs

were not met by the Employment Security Department. He does not feel that his job

training in the military is applicable to civilian jobs. His wife is unemployed, he has

neither applied for nor received food stamps, and has.not received welfare since his

discharge.

He did not receive adequate information about veterans services prior to being

separated from the military. He first became aware of the G.I. Bill from a local vet-

erans organization or outreach program and how to go about using it during active duty

in the service. He has not used the G.I. Bill previously because he could not get

correct information (or was misinformed).

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He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking to

an outreach worker he did not know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at most

schools if he were a Vietnam veteran and that tutorial assistance is available. He

believes the Veterans Outreach services meets his needs and thinks that these services

should be made available on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks that all veterans should be eligible for the state bonus.

He would support a State G.I. Bill in addition to the Federal G.I. Bill to pay

the veterans' total tuition at the Community College level.

He knows that the federal Government will pay to have all his dental work done

as long as he gets it done within one year after he gets out of the service.

COMMENTS:

1. The number of outreach veterans sampled at SPCC, who were seventeen years

old at entry into the military is considerably higher than the state total (State - 21.37%

SPCC - 50%) .

2. 78.57% of SPCC's outreach veterans did not know before talking to an outreach

worker about lower tuition at most schools for Vietnam veterans compared to 51.33% of

the state total.

3. 85.71% of SPCC's outreach veterans did not know about tutorial assistance before

talking to an outreach worker compared to 61.60% of the state total.

4. 100% of SPCC's outreach veterans feel the Veterans Outreach services should

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be made available permanently compared to 72.47% of the state total.

5. SPCC has considerably higher portions of its outreach sample in the 30 or over

age bracket (42.86%) than the majority of the participating institutions (State - 24.94%).

6. 28.57% of SPCC's outreach veterans have a service connected disability

compared to 14.83% of the state total.

7. 7.14% of SPCC's outreach veterans have acquired one to eight years of education

compared to 1.29% of the state total.

8. 35.71% of SPCC's outreach veterans feel their needs were not met by the

Employment Security Department compared to 19.01% of the state total

9. 28.57% of SPCC's outreach veterans first became aware of how to go about

using the G.I. Bill from the Veterans Outreach program compared to 8.82% of the

state total.

10. 21.34% of SPCC's outreach veterans first became aware of their eligibility

for the G.I. Bill from the Veterans Outreach services, compared to 8.82% of the state

total.

1 1 . 14.29% of SPCC's outreach veterans heard about Veterans Outreach by

radio, compared to 3.04% of the state total. 7.14% of SPCC's outreach veterans

heard about Veterans Outreach by TV compared to 3.42% of the state total.

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SPOKANE COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average non-outreach veteran attending Spokane Community College, Spring

quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, 24 to 25 years old, married, with two dependents.

He entered the U.S. Army or Navy at the age of eighteen in 1969, served four years

of active duty, did not serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connected disability,

and was discharged in 1973.

He has acquired twelve years of education, consisting of a high school diploma

or Q.E.D. (most likely a high school diploma). He is taking twelve to fourteen quarter

hours and is attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service and is now unemployed after holding

two or more jobs since separation. He has been unemployed from one to three months and

is not drawing unemployment compensation. He feels his needs were either met or partially

met by the Employment Security Department. He does not feel that his job training in the

military is applicable to civilian jobs. His wife is unemployed, he has neither applied for

nor received food stamps, and has not received welfare since his discharge.

He did receive adequate information about veterans services prior to being discharged.

He first became aware of the G.I. Bill and how to go about using it during active duty

in the service. He has not used the G.I. Bill previously even though he knew it existed

but didn't know how to go about getting it

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He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking to

an outreach worker he did not know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at most schools

if he were a Vietnam, veteran and that tutorial assistance was available. He thinks that

these services should be made available on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks that veterans, whether they were in Vietnam or not should be eligible

for the state bonus.

He would support a State G.I. Bill in addition to the Federal G.I. Bill to pay the

veterans' total tuition at the Community College level.

He doesn't know that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental work

done as long as he gets it done within one year after he gets out of the service.

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SOUTH SEATTLE COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average non-outreach veteran attending South Seattle Community College,

Spring quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, 24 to 25 years old, single, with zero depend-

ents.

He entered the U.S. Army at the age of eighteen in 1968, served three years

of active duty, did serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connected disability,

and was discharged in 1971.

He had employed twelve years of education, consisting of a high school diploma

or G.E.D. (most likely a high school diploma). He is taking fifteen or more quarter

hours and is attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service and is now unemployed after hold-

ing three or more jobs since separation. He has been unemployed over twenty-four months

and is not drawing unemployment compensation. He feels his needs were not met by the

Employment Security Department. He does not feel that his job training in the military is

applicable to civilian jobs. He has neither applied for nor received food stamps and has

not received welfare since his discharge.

He did not receive adequate information about veterans services prior to being

separated from the military. He first became aware of the G.I. Bill and how to go about

using it during active duty in the service. He has used the G.I. Bill previously.

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He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking to

an outreach worker he did not know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at most schools

if he were a Vietnam veteran and that tutorial assistance was available. He has mixed

opinions on how he would rate the Veterans Outreach and thinks that these services

should be made available on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks that all veterans should be eligible for the state bonus.

He would support a State G.I. Bill in addition to the Federal G.I. Bill to pay

the veterans' total tuition at the Community College level.

He knows that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental work done

as long as he gets it done within one year after he gets out of the service.

COMMENTS:

1. SSCC in its non-outreach sample had 53.70% of the sample single and 38.89%

married while the state total had about the reverse (34.22% single 58.25% married).

2. A high percentage of non-outreach veterans SSCC are taking one to five credits,

in comparison to the rest of the state (State - 7.91% SSCC - 25.93%).

3. 38.89% of SSCC's non-outreach veterans feel their needs were not met by the

Employment Security Department compared to the state total 19.01%.

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TACOMA COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average outreach veteran attending Tacoma Community College, Spring

quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, 22 to 23 years old, married, with three depend-

ents.

He entered the U.S. Army at the age of eighteen in 1969, served three years

of active duty, did not serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connected dis-

ability, area A;tis discharged in 1973.

He has acquired twelve years of education, consisting of a high school diploma

or G.E.D. (most likely a G.E.D.). He is taking fifteen or more credit hours and is

attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service. He is not drawing unemployment

compensation and he feels his needs were met by the Employment Security Department.

He feels that his job training in the military is applicable to civilian jobs. His wife is

employed, he has neither applied for nor received food stamps, and has not received

welfare since his discharge.

He did receive adequate information about veterans services prior to being sep-

arated from the military. He first became aware of the G.I. Bill and how to go about

using it during active duty in the service. He has used the G.I. Bill previously.

He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking to

an outreach worker he did not know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at most

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schools if he were a Vietnam veteran and thut tutorial assistance was available. He

believes the Veterans Outreach services meets his needs and thinks that these services

should be made available on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks that all veterans should be eligible for the state bonus.

He would support a State G.I. Bill in addition to the Federal G.I. Bill to pay

the veterans' total tuition at the Community College level.

He knows that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental work done

as long as he gets it done within one year after he gets out of the service.

COMMENTS:

1. TCC has a considerably higher representation of blacks in its outreach sample

(16.24%) than the majority of the schools (State - 5.36%).

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WALLA WALLA COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average outreach veteran attending Walla Walla Community College, Spring

quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, 26 to 27 years old, single, with no dependents.

He entered the U.S. Army at the age of eighteen in 1969, served three years of

active duty, did serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connected disability,

was discharged in 1973.

He has acquired twelve years of education, consisting of a high school diploma

or G.E.D. (most likely a high school diploma). He is taking fifteen or more quarter

hours and is attending day classes.

He may or may not have been employed before entry into the service and is now

unemployed after holding three or more jobs since separation. He has been unemployed

from four to nine months and is not drawing unemployment compensation. He feels his

needs were partially met by the Employment Security Department. He does not feel his

job training in the military is applicable to civilian jobs. He had neither applied for

nor received food stamps and has not received welfare since his discharge.

He did receive adequate information about veterans services prior to being separated

from the military. He first became aware of the G.I. Bill and how to go about using it

during active duty in the service: He has used the G.I. Bill previously.

He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking to an

outreach worker he did know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at most schools if he

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were a Vietnam veteran but he did not know that tutorial assistance is available. He

believes the Veterans Outreach services meets his needs and thinks that these services

should be made available on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks that all veterans should be eligible for the state bonus.

He would support a State G.I. Bill in addition to the Federal 0.1. Bill to pay the

veterans' total tuition at the Community College level.

He knows that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental work done

as long as he gets it done within one year after he gets out of the service.

COMMENTS:

1. 71.43% of WWCC's outreach veterans feel their needs were totally met by

Veterans Outreach (none feel their needs were not met) compared to 40.38% of the

state total. (This indicates a good job is being done at WWCC).

2. WWCC has a considerably higher representation of blacks in its outreach

sample (14.29%) than the majority of the schools (State - 5.63%).

3. A high percentage of WWCC's outreach veterans are taking six to eight

credits compared to the rest of the state (State - 7.16% WWCC - 23.81%).

4. 71.43% of WWCC's outreach veterans heard about Veterans Outreach by

personal contact compared to 34.75% of the total veterans.

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WALLA WALLA COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average non-outreach veteran attending Walla Walla Community College,

Spring quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, 22 to 23 years old, married, with two depend-

ents.

He entered the U.S. Marine Corps at the age of seventeen or eighteen in 1969,

served two years of active duty, did serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connect-

ed disability, and was discharged in 1971.

He has acquired twelve years of education, consisting of a high school diploma or

G.E.D. (most likely a high school diploma). He is taking twelve to fourteen quarter hours

and is attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service and is now unemployed after holding

three or more jobs since separation. He has been unemployed from one to nine months and

is not drawing unemployment compensation, with mixed opinions on how he would rate the

services he received from the Employment Security Department. He does not feel that his

job training in the military is applicable to civilian jobs. His wife is unemployed, he has

neither received nor applied for food stamps, and has not received welfare sime,his dis-

charge.

He did receive adequate information about veterans services prior to being separated

from the military. He first became aware of the G.I. Bill and how to go about using it

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during active duty in the service. He has used the G.I. Bill previously.

He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking to

an outreach worker he did not know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at most schools

if he were a Vietnam veteran and that tutorial assistance was available. He believes the

Veterans Outreach services meets his needs and thinks that these services should be made

available on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks that all veterans should not be eligible for the state bonus.

He would support a State G.I. Bill in addition to the Federal G.I. Bill to pay the

veterans' total tuition at the Community College level.

He knows that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental work done

as long as he gets it done within one year after he gets out of the service.

COMMENTS:

1. The number of non-outreach veterans sampled at WWCC, who were seventeen

years old at entry into the service is considerably higher than the state total (State - 21.37%

WWCC - 32%).

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WENATCHEE VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average outreach veteran attending Wenatchee Valley Community College,

Spring quarter 1973, is a male caucosian, 26 to 27 years old, married, with three

dependents.

He entered the U.S. Navy at the age of eighteen in 1966, served three years

of active duty, did not serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connected dis-

ability, and was discharged in 1969.

He has acquired one to three years of additional training, with no college degree

yet acquired. He is taking fifteen or more quarter hours and is attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service and is now unemployed after holding

three or more jobs since separation. He has been unemployed from one to three months

and is not drawing unemployment compensation. He feels his needs were partially met

by the Employment Security Department. He feels that his job training in the military

is applicable to civilian jobs. His wife is employed, he has neither applied for nor

received food stamps, and has not received welfare since his discharge.

He did not receive adequate information about veterans services prior to being

separated from the military. He first became aware of the G.I. Bill and how to go about

using it during active duty in the service. He has used the G.1. Bill previously.

He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking to an

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outreach worker he did not know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at most schools

if he were a Vietnam veteran and that tutorial assistance was available. He believes

the Veterans Outreach services meets his needs and thinks that these services should be

made available on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks that all veterans should not be eligible for the state bonus.

He would support a State G.I. Bill in addition to the Federal G.I. Bill to pay

the veterans' total tuition at the Community College level.

He knows that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental work done

as long as he gets it done within one year after he gets out of the service.

COMMENTS:

1. 78.57% of WVCC's outreach veterans did not know about tutorial assistance

compared to 61.60% of the state total.

2. 85.71% of WVCC's outreach veterans feel their needs were totally met by

Veterans Outreach (none feel their needs were not met) compared to 40.38% of the

state total (This indicates an extremely good and effective job is being done by WWCC's

Veterans Outreach office).

3. 92.86% of WVCC's outreach veterans feel that Veterans Outreach services

should be made available permanently compared to 72.47% of the state total.

4. 7 .14% of WVCC's outreach veterans have acquired one to eight years of

education compared with 1.29% of the state total.

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5. 14.29% of WVCC's outreach veterans heard about Veterans Outreach by

newspaper, compared to 5.78% of the state total. 57014% of WVCC's outreach

veterans heard about Veterans Outreach by personal contact compared to 34.75%

of the state total.

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WHATCOM COMMUNITY COLLEGE

The average outreach veteran attending Whatcom Community College, Spring

quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, 22 to 23 years old, married, with three dependents.

He entered the U.S. Army at the age of seventeen or nineteen in 1968, served

two years of active duty, did not serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connected

disability, and was discharged in 1970.

He has acquired twelve years of education, consisting of a high school diploma

or G.E.D. (most likely a high school diploma). He is taking twelve to fourteen quarter

hours and is attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service and is now unemployed after holding

three or more jobs since separation. He has been unemployed from one to three months

and is not drawing unemployment compensation. He feels his needs were not met by the

Employment Security Department. He does not feel that his job training in the military is

applicable to civilian jobs. His wife is unemployed, he has neither applied for nor received

food stamps, and has not received welfare since his discharge.

He did receive adequate information about veterans services prior to being separated

from the military. He first became aware of the G.I. Bill and how to go about using it

during active duty in the service. He has not used the G.I. Bill previously even though

he knew it existed but did not know how to go about getting it.

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He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking to

an outreach worker he did know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at most schools

if he were a Vietnam veteran and that tutorial assistance was available. He believes

the Veterans Outreach services meets his needs and thinks that these services should

be made available on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks all veterans should not be eligible for the state bonus.

He would support a State G.I. Bill in addition to the Federal G.I. Bill to pay

the veterans' total tuition at the Community College level.

He knows that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental work done

as long as he gets it done within one year after he gets out of the service.

COMMENTS:

1. 81.82% of WCC's outreach veterans feel their needs were totally met by

Veterans Outreach, compared to 40.38% of the state total. (This indicates an extremely

good and effective job is being done by WCC's Veterans Outreach program).

2. 90.91% of WCC's outreach veterans feel the Veterans Outreach program

services should be made available permanently compared with 72.47% of the state total.

3. WCC has a considerably higher representation of Mexican Americans in its

outreach sample (27.27%) than the majority of the schools (State - 1.60%).

4. 27.27% of WCC's outreach veterans have four dependents while the state

total only reflects 7%.

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5. 9.09% of WCC's outreach veterans have acquired one to eight years of

education compared to 1.29% of the state total.

6. 27.27% of WCC's outreach veterans first became aware of how to go about

using the G.I. Bill from the Veterans Outreach program compared to 13.99% of the

state total.

7. 27.27% of WCC's outreach veterans heard about Veterans Outreach by radio,

compared to 3.04% of the state total.

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The average non-outreach veteran attending Yakima Valley Community College,

Spring quarter 1973, is a male caucasian, 22 to 23 years old, married, with one depend-

ent.

on,

He entered the U.S. Army at the age of nineteen in 1969, served three years of

active duty, did serve in Vietnam, did not receive a service connected disability, and was

discharged in 1972.

He has acquired twelve years of education, consisting of a high school diploma

or G.E.D. (most likely a high school diploma). He is taking twelve to fourteen quarter

hours and is attending day classes.

He was employed before entry into the service and is now unemployed after hold-

ing three or more jobs since separation. He has been unemployed from one to three months

and is not drawing unemployment compensation. He his mixed opinions on how he would

rate the services he receive from the Employment Security Department. He feels that his

job training in the military is applicable to civilian jobs. His wife is employed, he has

neither applied for or received food stamps, and has not received welfare since his dis-

charge.

He did receive adequate information about veterans services prior to being separated

from the military. He first became aware of the .0.1. Bill and how to go about using it

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during active duty in the service. He had not used the G.I. Bill previously even though

he knew it existed, but did not know how to go about getting it.

He heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact. Before talking to an

outreach worker he did not know that he could pay a lower tuition rate at most schools if

he were a Vietnam veteran and that tutorial assistance was available. He believes the

Veterans Outreach services meets [I's needs and thinks that these services should be made

available on a permanent basis at the individual institutions.

He thinks that all veterans should be eligible for the state bonus.

He would support a State G.I. Bill in addition to the Federal G.I. Bill to pay the

veterans' total tuition at the Community College level.

He knows that the Federal Government will pay to have all his dental work done as

long as he gets it done within one year after he gets out of the service.

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SUMMARY, CONCLUSIONS, AND IMPLICATIONS

This study was initiated to acquire some basic data on veterans attending Com-

munity Colleges in Washington State, to report on the Veterans Outreach Program,

and to accumulate some indications as to its effectiveness.

A review of the literature showed concerns for how the veterans of the most con-

troversial conflict in American history, will be paid for their service. Many veterans,

upon their return home, are thought to resent the lack of appreciation given to them.

Many feel the G.I . Bill is not adequate to meet the needs of the Vietnam-era veteran

and that the least this country could do is to equal the benefits given to the, returning

World War II veterans. A high level of concern was expressed on the question of

employability of the returning veteran and what was being done by the Employment

Security Department to assist him. The literature also brought out that very few Vietnam-

era veterans in comparison to World War II veterans are using the benefits made available

to them. This brings out a problem which has been buried in the shadow of the adequacy

of the benefits. The benefits must be made adequate to serve the needs for which they

were intended; however, this will do very little good for those who are not aware of the

benefits or how to go about getting them. This is why the Veterans Outreach Program was

initiated throughout the Community Colleges in Washington State and at many other

schools throughout the country.

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The instrument for this survey was designed to collect as broad a scope of knowledge

as possible without becoming too lengthy.

The total sample consisted of 1315 veterans attending 23 of the 27 Community

Colleges in Washington State. The sample was broken down into two groups, outreach

and non-outreach veterans, to determine the type of veterans the Veterans' Outreach

Program was reaching opposed to those already in school before outreach existed.

There didn't appear to be any major difference between Outreach and Non-outreach

veterans on the state level indicating that in general the outreach programs reach veterans

of all ages, from all the branches of the service, with a variety of backgrounds. Some

schools, however, did show major differences between the outreach and non-outreach

veterans, which can probably be attributed to a number of things, but most likely ties-in

with the specific kinds of outreach work they are doing and how restricted the outreach

is. Many programs are limited as to what they can do because of a lack of funds.

The bulk of the veterans sampled in the State (59.24%) fall within the 22 to 27

age group with 24.29% being over 30. Although the majority of the veterans are married,

a large number are single (32.22%). Very few of the married veterans have more than

three dependents.

A surprisingly high number of the total veterans entered the service at the age of

seventeen (21.37%); with 88.74% of the total veterans entering the service from 17 to

20 years old. Very few veterans entered the service after age 24. 85.40% of the total

veterans are Vietnam-era veterans and 20.37% of them were in the service prior to the

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Vietnam era. This means 65.03% of the total veterans sampled entered and were discharged

from the service within the Vietnam -era. 24.11% of the total veterans served from one to

two years active duty and were probably drafted. 53.96% of the total Vietnam-era veterans

did serve in Vietnam. 14.83% of the total veterans sampled have a service connected

disability, with 38.97% of them a direct result of combat. 63.52% of those who received

disabilities are not satisfied with the disability benefits they've received. These veterans

have what the author would define as "mobile disabilities"; these veterans are moving

forward despite their handicaps.

Only 6.46% of the total veterans have less than a high school degree; however,

14.75% of the 47.22% who have twelve years of education have acquired their twelve

year equivelency through the G.E.D. exams, which suggests that 21.21% had less than

a high school degree when they entered the service. This group, which has been defined

as "disadvantaged Veterans" by the Veterans Administration is one which requires special

attention, with special emphasis being placed on remedial and developmental courses.

However, it is believed that in most cases all veterans need this special attention to some

degree because of the long period of time spent away from the educational system and the

erosion of educational tools, study habits, etc. The majority of the total veterans sampled

are attending twelve or more class hours (71.48%). It has been the author experience

(as a Veterans Outreach Coordinator and Counselor) that many veterans take more credits

than they are capable of handling adequately because they need the full G.I. Bill allotment

(Which in most cases is still not enough money).

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A high majority of the total veterans were employed before entry into the service

(67.45%). A majority of the veterans feel that their training in the service is not applic-

able to civilian jobs. 41.06% of the total veterans have held three or more jobs since

separation from active duty. This indicates a lack of training and acquired skills. With

the job requirements and level of education rising, it's even possible the veteran was

more employable before his entry into the service. Many years ago a high school diploma

was for those who could afford it or did not have to take on a large amount of personal

responsibility or support a family. Less emphasis was placed on education. Throughout

the years the importance of education has gradually risen to where a high school diploma

(or G E.D. equivelency) is required to acquire a job at the lower end of the employment

scale. It's even reach the point where many jobs require a Bachelors or Masters degree

to even apply. Some types of jobs must have some level of accessibility as 53.38% of

the veterans sampled acquired their first job from one to three months after discharge,

however, there is nothing to indicate the quality or type of job although it was observed,

as stated, that this was just the first of three or more jobs. Many of these veterans possibly

entered school after being unsuccessful in the occupational arena. 54.79% of the veterans

who rated the Employment Security Department feel that their needs were met or partially

met, while 23.50% feel that the Employment Security Department did not meet their needs.

This does not speak well for the Employment Security Department throughout the state if

almost one out of every four feel their needs are not met, however, some of the different

offices throughout the state were rated much higher than others (see table 27b). Of the

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married veterans, 55.37% had wives working and 44.62% did not.

Of the total veterans 23.65% have applied for food stamps and 70.59% of those

who have applied received them. 10.80% of the total veterans have received welfare

since discharge. This indicates that many veterans are in severe financial difficulty.

70.57% of the total veterans became aware of their eligibility for the G.1. Bill

in the service. While 51.18% of the total veterans feel they did receive adequate

information about veterans services prior to discharge, 46.77% of them feel they did

not. Of the total veterans 52.85% became aware of how to go about using the G.I.

Bill in the service. This indicates that 25J1% of those who did learn of their eligibility

in the service did not learn how to go about getting it. This leaves 47.15% of the total

veterans in a poor position of not knowing how to go about getting the G.I. Bill, with

29.43% not knowing of their eligibility. 61.99% of the veterans who responded and

58.78% of the total veterans feel their needs are not met by the G.I. Bill. Of those

veterans who do feel the benefits are adequate, the majority of them are outreach vet-

erans, which indicates that those who are just beginning may be over-estimating how far

the G.I. Bill benefits will go. 48.67% of the total veterans are drawing G.I. Bill

benefits for the first. Of those using their educational benefits for the first time, 32.31%

knew it existed, but did not know how to go about getting it (49.88% of those who respond-

ed to the question); 14.42% could not get correct information or were misinformed (22.33%

of those who responded to the question); 2.91% did not know the G.I. Bill existed (4.51%

of those who responded to the question). This indicates a definite need to better educate

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the veterans on their benefits while in the service and the development of special

programs to inform the millions of Vietnam-era veterans now discharged, of their

benefits. Programs such as the Veterans Outreach Program in Washington State are

doing just that.

Many non-outreach veterans are aware of Outreach services on their campus

because of on campus services performed by outreach workers. Of the total veterans

34.75% heard about Veterans Outreach through personal contact by an outreach work-

er or friend. Only 5.75% of the total veterans heard about Outreach through news-

papers. It has been the author's experience that most outreach work is leg work, how-

ever, much of the leg work could be eliminated with a good referral system throughout

the community and advertising through newspaper and T.V. Very little funding is

available for advertising. Of the total veterans 51.33% did not know before talking to6

an outreach worker, that if he were a Vietnam veteran he would pay lower tuition at

most schools. Of the non-outreach veterans, already on campus, 47.16% did not know.

It would be interesting to know how many of those veterans are paying full tuition.

61.60% of the total veterans did not know, before talking to an outreach worker, that

tutorial assistance is available (73.24% of those who responded to the question). This

substantive lack of knowledge about veterans benefits was consistent with both outreach

and non-outreach veterans. As might be expected a few more non-outreach veterans

already knew about tutorial assistance, probably because of some degree exposure to

it at the educational institution, however, 58.19% of those still didn't know (71.04%

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of those who responded). This is a very high percentage of veterans who didn't know

about a program which was designed for 100% of them. Of the outreach veterans who

rated the outreach services, 91.91% feel their needs were met or partially met (73.47%

of the total outreach veterans). Of the veterans who rated the outreach services 84.19%

feel their needs were met or partially met (52.24% of the total veterans - many of the

non-outreach veterans included in the total have not used the services). 9.81% of

the total veterans feel their needs have not been met. Although some schools were

rated higher than others, almost all schools were rated high by the veterans. 95.97%

of the total veterans responding think that outreach should be made available on a per-

manent basis at the individual institutions. Yet many of these veterans are not aware

that after the 1974-75 school year Veterans Outreach may not exist at all because of

a lack of support at the legislative level for the continuation of the "cost-of-instruction"

funds, the primary source of funding for the state programs at this time. The Veterans

Outreach services appear to be of invaluable service to the veterans and in most cases

is an arrangement of veterans serving veterans. Many of the local veterans organizations

have made an effort to assist the Veterans Outreach in their efforts. Together they have

made 18.63% of the total veterans sampled aware of their eligibility for the G.I. Bill

and have assisted 29.88% of the total veterans- in using the G.I. Bill which is the number

one problem the veterans face today. Whether the benefits are adequate or not is the

second problem the veteran faces.

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Of the total veterans sampled, 5977% think that all Vietnam-era veterans should

be eligible for the Washington State Bonus.

82.97% of the total veterans would support a state G.I. Bill to pay tuition at the

Community College level.

Of the total veterans, 60.15 % did know about their dental benefits, however,

35.29% did not. It is unfortunate that just over one of every three veterans does not

receive his dental benefits because he is not aware of them.

The total sample of veterans selected employment as the number one problem

facing the returning Vietnam-era veteran. The number two problem was rated as education.

The number three problem was rated as social apathy with insufficient military outprocessing

right behind it. This only strengthens the already strong indications of a need for additional

emphasis to be placed on specialized services to meet the needs of the Vietnam-era veteran.

RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FURTHER RESEARCH

In respect to the needs of the veterans attempting to educate themselves through

the community college system and the findings of this study, the following recommendations

for additional research are made:

1) The current study should be replicated in at least one different state to determine

possible differences with veterans of other states.

2) Research should be undertaken to explore the large number of veterans dissatis-

faction with services received in some areas, by the Employment Security Department.

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3) Research should be initiated to determine why there is a lack of support

for funds to keep veterans services like Veterans Outreach functioning.

4) Research should be initiated to determine specifically how much and what

types of emphasis should be placed on remedial and developmental programs,

in light of the veterans low level of education and long period of time spent

away from the educational process.

5) Studies should be conducted to determine the status of the disabled veterans

and what can be done to further assist them.

6) Studies should be initiated to determine the true inpact of service related

jobs on the civilian job market.

7) Research should be done to determine more specific reasons that the veteran

is having so much trouble in the civilian job market (Generally it appears to

be a lack of applicable experience and/or formal education, however, each

occupational area has its own set of requirements).

8) Research should-be initiated to acquire some new programs (like the Veterans

Outreach Program in Washington State) to inform the veterans of the benefits

they have earned and to help them use them by informing them on how to go about

getting them and using them.

9) The current study should be replicated on a state level at four-year institutions

to determine differences which may exist.

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"Suitable jobs are to be reserved - I repeat, reserved - for Vietnam veterans . . .

Official policy has been established that while waiting for work they will receive thesame salary they got in the service . . . Professional and specialist schools must reserveplaces for wounded veterans . o . and log jams must be cleared by opening new classes. . . Enterprises set up by veterans are to get extra state aid . . and loans at the low-est interest rate . . . children of dead or wounded veterans are to receive educationalprivileges and special attention throughout their schooling."31

This policy has all the qualities of a true expression of gratitude given to veterans

by a country that surely appreciates its veterans. This is not the welcome be3towed upon

our veterans on their return home, however, as you might have thought, but rather the

welcome given by North Vietnam to its veterans.

The subject of war and veterans is certainly nothing new to this country as pointed

out by an article in U.S. News & World Report32 ("Three Peaceful Years in Three Decades")

that since the U.S. has entered World War 11 fhere have been only three full calendar

years (1956, 1957, and 1959) in which our country was at peace with no involvement

in foreign conflict. This tells us our veterans have been busy protecting the democratic

way of life and it's high time democracy shell out some returns without making these vet-

erans get on their hands and knees, beg, or even wait in line.

"No group of American fighting men was ever called on to demonstrate theirbravery, their endurance or their love of country under more trying circumstancesthan those gallant Americans who served in Vietnam.

31 "The Vets: Heroes as Orphans", Newsweek, March 5, 1973, p.22.

32"Three Peaceful Years in Three Decades", U.S News & World Report, Vol.LXXIV, No. 7, February 12, 1973, pp. 24-25.

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"Words of thanks are not enough for the 2 1/2 million men who have returnedhome from this conflict.

"We must demonstrate the gratitude we feel by the actions we take. We musthonor them with the respect they have earned and the affection they deserve. Wemust assist them with health care, education, training and housing assistance. Theseactions alone cannot fully repay the debt we owe our veterans, but they can help.

"Just as we have kept the faith with our allies abroad, let us now keep faithwith our returning veterans at home. They have given much to defend the Americanway of life; it is time for America to serve them equally well."33

Steve Hulsey34

quotes Eugene Cannon, director of DOIC's Veterans Upward

Bound program, "The Vietnam-era veterans represents a major resource for this nation.

We don't want to see it go to waste."

33Richard M. Nixon, "Statement", Key Biscayne: Florida, March 24, 1973.

34Steve Hulsey, "From the Service to the Campus", American Education, Vol. 9No. 7, August September, 1973, pp. 27 - 30.

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U.S. Congress, House of Representatives Committee Print No. 291, President's Commissionon Veterans' Pensions: A Report of Veterans Benefits in the United States, Wash-ington: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1956.

U.S. Congress, Senate Committee on Labor and Public Welfare. Education and Train-ing for Veterans. Hearing before the Subcommittee on Veterans' Affairs, June24, 25, 26 1969. Washington: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1969.

U.S Congress, Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs. Readjustment and Job Assistancefor Vietnam Veterans. Hearing before the Subcommittee on Readjustment, Education,and Employment . April 28 and May 10, 1971. Washington: U.S. GovernmentPrinting Office, 1971.

U.S. Congress, Senate Committee on Labor and Public Welfare. Education Amendmentsof 1971. Hearing before Subcommittee on Education. March 3, 4, 31; April 1,20, 21, 22, 23, 27, 28, 29; May 6, 25, 26; June 9, 1971, U.S. GovernmentPrinting Office, 1971.

U.S. Department of Defense. Report on the Conference on the Separating ServicemenHeld at the National War College. October 1969, pp. 29 - 31.

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University of Pittsburgh's Hilman Library. Financing Higher Education: A Biblio-graphy. Pittsburgh: Institute of Higher Education. September 1971.

Veterans Administration: Veterans Benefits Under Current Educational Programs.

4 November 1971. Washington. p. 36.

Veterans Administration: The Vietnam Veteran: Challenge for Change. Washington:U.S. Government Printing Office. 1971.

"Veterans--Forgotten Warriors?" Time. Vol. 101 No. 11, March 12, 1973, pp. 17 -18.

"WASTED MEN--The Reality of the Vietnam Veteran." Veterans World Project, South-ern Illinois University, Edwardsville, Illinois. 1972.

Webster College. Veterans' Accelerated Urban Learning for Teachers (V.A.U.L.T.).Program Development and Projection. St. Louis. 1968.

West, Elmer D. Financial Aid to the Undergraduate. Washington: American Councilon Education, 1963.

Williams, Harrison. Crossroads U.S.A. Washington: The National Press, 1968.

Yoder, Amos. "Lessons of the G.I. Bill." Phi Delta Kappan 44. April 1963. pp. 342 -345.

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APPENDIX PAGE

A Letter sent to coordinators0000000000000000000. 216

B Questionnaire used for collection of the data00000 000 218

C List of Participating Institutions00 000 00 0 0. 00 0 0 228

D Maps of schools locations and area populations .000000 230

E Veterans Receiving Benefits - Academic and Occupational

Students Only, Washington Community College 00 0 00,0 234

Figures: Rating of five problems facing the returning

Vietnam-era veteran0.00.00000.000.0.00.0.0. 237

G Endorsement of Approval (for this study) by the Washing-

ton State Student Services Commission 00000000000000 243

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APPENDIX A

Letter Sent to Coordinators

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ETT COMMUNITY COLLEGE801 WETMORE AVENUE o EVERETT, WASHINGTON 98201 o PHONE 259-7151 AREA 206

Enclosed is a copy of a Washington State veterans survey, which I am con-ducting for Spring quarter 1973, that will be distributed and discussed

at the next veterans outreach coordinators meeting. This survey will be

conducted state wide through the outreach coordinators at the individualcommunity colleges.

The purpose of this survey is to acquire statistical data on the veteran.This information may be beneficial in acquiring your individual programmore funding when the present funds have run out.

Pleasego over the complete survey carefully and come to the coordinatesmeeting prepared to ask any quebztions you might have. If your schoo]

is not going to be represented at, the coordinators meeting on January 30,

31, 1973, please contact me so I can get the questionnaires end appropriate

information to you.

I an enclosing one of my personal cards. Feel free to contact me at any

time for further information.

Sincerely,

James R. ThompsonVeterans' Outreach CoordinatorEverett Community College

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SURVEY CF VETERANS ATTENDING COMMUNITYCOLLEGES IN WASHINGTON STATE

The purpose of this questionnaire is to accumulate data to determine what steps might betaken to assist you the veteran in taking advantage of your service earned benefits.

Please take your time and answer all questions as accurately as possible. No questionshould call for more than one answer (with the exception of /137). On the fill-in questionsor choices which state, other, be as brief and accurate as possible.

After selecting your answer place an (X) in the space provided directly to the left of theanswer.

NAME

I. GENERAL INFORMATION

ADDRESS

COLLEGE ENROLLED IN

1. AGE:

2. SEX:

3.. RACE:

DATE

PHONE

18-19 1

20-21 2

22-23 3

24-25 4

26-27 5

28-29 6

30 or over 7

Ma leFemale

1

2

Caucasian 1

Black 2

Indian 3

Mexican-American 4

Asian 5

4. MARITAL STATUS:

Sing leMarriedDivorced 234

1

2

3

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5. NUMBER OF DEPENDENTS (Not counting yourself):

0 None 1

1 22 33 44 55 66 or more 7

Ii. SERVICE INFORMATION

6. BRANCH OF SERVICE:

U.S. Army 1

U.S. Air Force 2

U.S. Marine Corps 3U.S. Navy' 4U.S. Coast Guard 5More than one branch 6

7. YEAR OF ENTRY INTO MILITAR'7:

Before 1960 1

1960 - August 4, 1964 (Before Bay of Tonkin) 2

August 5, 1964 - 1968 (After Bay of Tonkin) 31969 41970 51971 61972 71973 8

8. HOW OLD WERE YOU WHEN YOU FIRST ENTERED MILITARY SERVICE?

17 1

18 2

19 320 421 522 623 724 825 or more 9

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9. DATE OF SEPARATION FROM MILITARY:

Jan. 31, 1955 - 1959 1

1960 - August 4, 1964 (Before Bay of Tonkin) 2

August 5, 1964 - 1968 (After Bay of Tonkin) 3

1969 4

1970 5

1971 6

1972 7

1973 8

10. HOW MANY YEARS WERE YOU ON ACTIVE DUTY?

Less than 1 year 1

1-2 years 2

2-3 years 3

3-6 years 4

6-10 years 5

10-20 years 6

20 years or more 7

11. DID YOU SERVE IN VIET-NAM?

YesNo

12. WERE YOU AWARDED THE VIET-NAM SERVICE MEDAL?

YesNo

13. DO YOU HAVE A SERVICE CONNECTED DISABILITY?

YesNo

if so

14. IS YOUR DISABILITY A DIRECT RESULT OF COMBAT?

YesNo

15. DO YOU FEEL YOU HAVE RECEIVED ADEQUATE BENEFITS FORYOUR DISABILITY?

YesNo

1

2

2

2

1

2

1

2

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III. EDUCATIONAL

16. NUMBER OF YEARS OF EDUCATION:

-8 years 1

9-11 years 2

12 years (High School Degree) 3

G .E. D. (High School) 41 Year advanced training 52-3 years advanced training 6

4-5 years of advanced training 7

College degree 8

17. FOR WHICH QUARTER ARE YOU ENROLLED?

FallWinterSpringSummer

16. HOW MANY HOURS ARE YOU ATTENDING CLASSES?

1-56-89-1112 -1415 or more

19. WHEN ARE YOU ATTENDING CLASSES?

Days

NightsBoth days and nights

IV. EMPLOYMENT

20. WAS YOUR JOB TRAINING IN THE MILITARY APPLICABLE TOCIVILIAN JOBS?

Yes

No

21. WERE YOU EMPLOYED BEFORE YOU FIRST ENTERED THE MILITARY?

Yes

No

2

3

4

2

3

45

1

2

1

2

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22. HOW MANY JOBS HAVE YOU HELD SINCE SEPARATION ORRETIREMENT?

1 1

2 2

3 or more 3

23. HOW LONG WERE YOU UNEMPLOYED (MONTHS) BETWEENDISCHARGE OR SEPARATION AND YOUR FIRST JOB?

1-3 months 1

4-6 months 2

7-9 months 310-12 months 413-24 months 5

Over 24 months 6

24. HOW LONG (IF UNEMPLOYED NOW) HAVE YOU BEEN UNEMPLOYED?

1-3 months 1

4-6 months 2

7-9 months 3

10-12 months 413 -24 months 5

Over 24 months 6

25. ARE YOU DRAWING UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION?

YesNo

26. WHAT (IF NOT EMPLOYED) IS THE PRIMARY REASON THAT YOU ARENOT DRAWING UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION?

1

2

Not eligible 1

Have used all my compensation 2

Not covered by unemployment compensation law 3

Did not apply but do qualify for benefits 4Did not apply but do not know if eligible 5

Other, 6

27. HOW WOULD YOU RATE THE SERVICES YOU HAVE RECEIVED FROM THEEMPLOYMENT SECURITY DEPARTMENT?

Met 'my needs 1

Partia I ly met my needs 2

Did not meet my needs 3

Did not use services 4

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28. DOES YOUR SPOUSE WORK?

224

YesNo 2Not married 3

29. HAVE YOU APPLIED FOR FOOD STAMPS?

YesNo

30. HAVE YOU RECEIVED FOOD STAMPS?

Yes

No

31. HAVE YOU RECEIVED WELFARE SINCE YOUR DISCHARGE FROMACTIVE DUTY?

YesNo

V. G.I. BILL

2

2

2

32. DID YOU RECEIVE ADEQUATE INFORMATION ABOUT VETERANS SERVICESPRIOR TO BEING DISCHARGED OR SEPARATED? (Loans, G.I. Bill, etc.)

YesNo 2

33. WHEN DID YOU FIRST BECOME AWARE OF HOW YOU COULD GO ABOUTUSING THE G.I. BILL?

During active duty in the service 1

From one of your local veterans organizations 2

From the Outreach Program - through a worker or friend 3Other 4

34. WHEN DID YOU FIRST BECOME AWARE YOU WERE ELIGIBLE FOR THEG.I. BILL?

()tiring active duty in the service l 1

From one of your local veterans organizations ,2From the Outreach Program - through a worker or friend 3Other 4

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35. DO YOU FEEL THAT CURRENT G.I. BILL BENEFITS ARE ADEQUATETO MEET THE NEEDS OF VETERANS?

YesNo

36. (a) HAVE YOU EVER DRAWN MONEY ON THE G.I. BILL BEFORE?

YesNo

(b) IF NO, FOR WHICH OF THE FOLLOWING REASONS HAVE YOUNOT USED THE G.I. BILL?

1

2

1

2

Did not know the G.I. Bill existed 1

Knew it existed, but did not know how to go aboutgetting it 2

Could not get correct information (or was misinformed) 3

Have been out of the service less than 3 months 4

37. RATE THE FOLLOWING 5 ITEMS IN THE ORDER WHICH THEY CAUSE THEMOST PROBLEMS TO THE RETURNING VIET-NAM ERA VETERAN, 1-5(1 BEING THE ONE THAT CAUSES THE MOST PROBLEMS, 5 BEING THEONE THAT CAUSES THE LEAST PROBLEM.)

Employment 1

Education 2

Social apathy 3

Social readjustment 4

Insufficient military out-processing 5

VI. OUT REACH

38. HOW DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THE OUTREACH PROGRAM?

Newspaper 1

Radio 2

Letter 3

Personal contact (by an outreach worker or friend, etc.) 4

T.V. 5

Other 6

39. DID YOU KNOW BEFORE YOU TALKED TO AN OUTREACH WORKER(COUNSELOR) THAT IF YOU ARE A VIETNAM VETERAN YOU COULDPAY A LOWER AMOUNT OF TUITION AT SOME SCHOOLS?

YesNo

24u

1

2

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40. DID YOU KNOW BEFORE YOU TALKED TO AN OUTREACH WORKER(COUNSELOR) THALTHE GOVERNMENT WILL PAY TO GIVE YOUTUTORIAL ASSISTANCE IN CLASSES YOU ARE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH?

YesNo

1

2

41. HOW WOULD YOU RATE THE SERVICES YOU RECEIVED FROM YOURLOCAL OUTREACH PROGRAM?

Met my needs1

Partially met my needs 2Did not meet my needs 3

42. DO YOU THINK THAT OUTREACH SERVICES SHOULD BE MADE AVAILABLETO THE VETERANS ON A PERMANENT BASIS AT THE INDIVIDUAL EDUCA-TIONAL INSTITUTIONS?

YesNo

1

2

43. FOR WHAT REASONS(S) WERE YOU NOT IN SCHOOL BEFORE YOU TALKEDTO AN OUTREACH WORKER (COUNSELOR)?

VII. OCCUPATION

44. WHAT WAS YOUR LIFE TIME OCCUPATIONAL DESIRE BEFORE YOU ENTEREDTHE SERVICE?

45. WHAT WAS YOUR JOB BEFORE ENTERING THE SERVICE? (MAJOR JOB)(IF YOU WERE A STUDENT - WHAT MAJOR?)

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46. WHAT WAS YOUR JOB IN THE SERVICE ?

4 WHAT IS YOUR MAJOR IN SCHOOL NOW?

48. WHAT IS YOUR LIFETIME OCCUPATIONAL DESIRE NOW?

49. DO YOU THINK THAT ALL VIETNAM-ERA VETERANS, WHETHER THEY WERE INVIETNAM OR NOT SHOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE VIETNAM BONUS?

YesNo

1

2

50. WOULD YOU SUPPORT A STATE G.I. BILL, IN ADDITION TO THE FEDERAL G.I.BILL FOR ALL VIETNAM-ERA VETERANS; WHICH WOULD PAY THE VETERANSTOTAL TUITION AT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE LEVEL.

YesNo

VIII. MEDICAL

1

2

51. DO YOU KNOW THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL PAY TO HAVE ALLYOUR DENTAL WORK DONE AS LONG'AS YOU GET IT DONE WITHIN ONEYEAR AFTER YOU GET OUT OF THE SERVICE?

YesNo

1

2

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List of Participating Institutions

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LIST OF PARTICIPATING INSTITUTIONS

BBCC - Big Bend Community CollegeCSCC - Central Seattle Community CollegeCCC - Centralia Community CollegeCLCC - Clark Community CollegeCBCC - Columbia Basin Community CollegeEVCC - Everett Community CollegeFSCC - Fort Steilacoom Community CollegeGRCC - Green River Community CollegeGHCC - Grays Harbor Community CollegeHCC - Highline Community CollegeNSCC - North. Seattle Community College .

OCC - Olympic Community CollegeOVTI - Olympic Vocational Technical InstitutePCC - Peninsula Community College ,,,SHCC - Shoreline Community CallegtSVCC - Skagit Valley Community CollegeSPCC - Spokane Community CollegeSSCC - South Seattle Community CollegeTCC - Tacoma Community CollegeWWCC - Walla Walla Community CollegeWVCC - Wenatchee Valley Community CollegeWCC - Whatcom Community CollegeYVCC - Yakima Valley Community College

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, .

Maps of Schools Locations andArea Populations

Populations received from "State of Washington Pocket Data Book, 1973"Populations April 1, 1973, pp. 268-269.

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POPULATION OF CITIES WHERE COMMUNITY COLLEGES ARE LOCATED

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SFCC/SCC

m LCC A CBCC

CLCC

POPULATION

550,000 - 50,000III 50,000 - 20,000A 20,000 - 10,000

10,000 - 5,000

WWCC

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POPULATION OF THE TOP 50 CITIES IN WASHINGTON STATE

POPULATION

550,000 - 50,00050,000 - 20,00020,000 - 10,00010,000 - 5,000

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APPENDIX E

Veterans Receiving Benefits.Academic and Occupationa0Students Only

Was ington 'Community Colleges

a) 8th Day, Spring 1973b) Final, Spring 1973

Reports received fromThe State Board For Community College Education (SBCCE)

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VETERANS RECEIVING BENEFITS

ACADEMIC AND OCCUPATIONAL STUDENTS ONLY

WASHINGTON COMMUNITY COLLEGES

8TH DAY SPRING, 1973

DISTRICT

S.E. ASIA VETERANS

(RESIDENT)

OTHER VETERANS

TOTr

VETERA

RESIDENT

NON-RESIDENT

AND COLLEGE

FULL-TIME

PART-TIME

TOTAL

FULL-TIME

PART-TIME

TOTAL

FULL-TIME

PART-TIME

TOTAL

IPENINSULA

50

I51

101

16

117

30

317

2GRAYS HARBOR

48

553

71

10

81

70

7IP

3OLYMPIC

103

28

131

335

175

510

92

II

6'

4SKAGIT VALLEY

126

25

151

152

21

173

3I

43'

5DISTRICT TOTAL

301

82

383

691

218

909

82

10

1,3'

EVERETT

229

62

291

485

155

640

.2

13

9L,

EDMONDS

72

20

92

206

63

269

6I

736c

6DISTRICT TOTAL

439

36

475

1,539

223

1,762

21

627

2,264

SEATTLE CENTRAL

188

10

198

880

69

949

16

I17

1,16'

SEATTLE NORTH

147

23

170

475

131

606

55

10

7E

SEATTLE SOUTH

104

3107

184

23

207

00

031

7SHORELINE

201

19

220

479

79

558

50

578

8BELLEVUE

80

21

101

292

212

504

10

818

6;

9HIGHLINE

2i9

78

297

369

195

564

00

08C

ND

10

II

GREEN RIVER

225

FORT STEILACOOM

154

29

49

254

203

387

296

99

119

486

415

7 0

I 0c

8 0

741:

k,

61

C.-:I

12

DISTRICT TOTAL

141

23

164

164

17

181

0I

I3,1

C..

CENTRALIA

90

21

III

119

15

134

0I

12"

OVTI

51

253

45

247

00

0IC

13

LCWER COLUMBIA

187

22

209

175

23

198

8I

941

14

CLARK

146

25

171

251

87

338

30

351

15

WENATCHEE VALLEY

72

476

113

II

124 i!;:.

60

62C

16

YAKIMA VALLEY

146

4150

231

27

258

-

00

04.:

17

DISTRICT TOTAL

488

61

549

573

107

680

27

027

1,25

SPOKANE

255

9264

277

17

294

17

017

57

SPOKANE FALLS

233

52

285

296

90

386

10

010

6E

18

BIG BEND

51

051

45

449

I0

I10

19

20

COLUMBIA BASIN

66

WALLA WALLA

63

6 5

72

68

191

137

3725

228

162

0 20 2

0 4

30f

..-.,_,

21

WHATCOM

N/A

N/A

N/A

45

24

69

00

06

22

TACOMA

296

15

311

694

70

764

10

010

1,08

SYSTEM TOTALS

3,602

538

4,140

7,331

1,799

9,130

130

24

154

13,42

(26.83%)

(4.01%)

(30.84%)

(54.61%)

(13.40%)

(68.01%)

(.97%)

(.18 %)

(LI%)

Source:

SBCCE

MIS-I

Summary Enrollment Report, 8th Day Spring Quarter, 1973

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ACADEMIC AND OCCUPATIONAL STUDENTS ONLY

WASHINGTON COMMUNITY COLLEGES

FINAL SPRING, 1973

DISTRICT AND COLLEGE

S.E. ASIA VETERANS

(RESIDENT)

OTHER VETERANS

TOTAL

VETERAN

RESIDENT

NON-RESIDENT

TOTAL

FULL-TIME

PART-TIME

TOTAL

FULL-TIME

PART-TIME

FULL-TIME

PART-IIME

IPENINSULA

50

I51

101

16

30

120

171

2GRAYS HARBOR

50

555

71

10

70

88

143

3OLYMPIC

136

65

201

300

276

70

583

784

4SKAGIT VALLEY

140

22

162

154

26

31

-184

346

5DISTRICT TOTAL

320

97

417

768

258

93

1,038

1,455

EVERETT

226

65

291

515

154

I2

672

963

EDMONDS

94

32

126

253

104

81

366

492

6DISTRICT TOTAL

408

14

422

1,522

213

19

51,759

2,181

SEATTLE CENTRAL

141

9150

865.

122

14.

I1,002

1,152

SEATTLE NORTH

157

5162

471

51

54

531

693

SEATTLE SOUTH

110

0110

186

40

00

226

336

7SHORELINE

199

18

217

479

80

60

565

782

8BELLEVUE

94

15

109

345

161

II

3520

629

9HIGHLINE

226

80

306

377

200

00

577

883

10

GREEN RIVER

238

41

279

429

118

7I

555

834

II

FORT STEILACOOM

157

51

208

304

122

00

426

634

i\D

12

DISTRICT TOTAL

162

28

190

184

'

19

32

208

398

Cil

CENTRALIA

88

23

III

119

15

0I

135

246

OVTI

74

579

65

4-3

I73

152

13

LOWER COLUMBIA

154

20

174

193

24

8I

226

400

14

CLARK

141

30

171

228

109

4I

342

513

15

WENATCHEE VALLEY

72

476

114

10

60

130

206

16

YAKIMA VALLEY

146

15

161

231

28

00

259

420

17

DISTRICT TOTAL

269

59

328

362

102

13

0477

805

SPOKANE

31

536

64

73

074

110

SPOKANE FALLS

238

54

292

298

95

10

0403

695

18

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53

I54

46

16

00

62

116

19

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66

672

191

37

00

228

300

20

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67

572

137

25

22

166

238

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045

20

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65

65

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296

15

311

704

89

10

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592

4,036

7,285

1,959

118

19

9,381

13,417

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Mr. Jim ThompsonVeterans' CoordinatorEverett Coaununity College801 WetmoreEverett, Washington 98201

Dear Jim:

WENATCHEE VALLEY COLLEGE1300 Fifth StreetWpnatchei., Washipqron 98801

May 30, 1973

The study you are undertaking of veterans enrollingSpring Quarter at the community colleges of WashingtonState should provide valuable information both for yourresearch project and for the student services functionsat the individual colleges. Your study has the completeendorsement of this Commission, which represents the 27community colleges in this state, both for your researchproject as a part of your degree studies and for the usewithin the system.

If there is any way that this Commission can be of furtherassistan e to you, please do not hesitate to contact me.

William J. Muirhead,,Chairman41ashington State Student Services Commission

WJM/alpcc: Deans of Students

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LOS ANGELES

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