Agile & User Experience for Engineers
Agile Indonesia 2017
Michael OngProduct Team Coach @ The Collab Folks
Good Asternoon !
Who? What? How? Why?
ABOUT THIS TALK
Agile & UX for Engineers
‣ Real Life experience on how Agile & UX are relevant to software development, How to Integrate Them
‣ Challenges in practicing Agile & UX in Organisations
Site maps
Wireframes
Card sorting
Usability testing
Contextual inquiry
Personas
Scenarios
Prototyping
Heuristic evaluations
Mental models
Affinity diagramming
Concept maps
A/B testing
Flow diagrams
Taxonomies
Storyboards
User interviews
AGENDA
What we will not be able to cover today
How to be a User Experience Designer!
AGENDA
No Lego :(
MICHAEL ONG | @michaelon9 | [email protected]
tech ~ agile ~ ux ~ product ~ team coach ~ cyclist‣ before 1999 : programming in 6
languages ‣ web design / development ‣ research & development ‣ network engineer ‣ full-stack development + sales ‣ programming in +15 languages ‣ business process consulting ‣ internet spaceships ‣ portal development
‣ Community Builder : UXSG.org , Agile Singapore, Product Groups
‣ scrum master ‣ mobile & ux lead ‣ product manager ‣ coo a.k.a even more work including
customer success, operations, logistics & finance
‣ more internet spaceships ‣ cycling + startup ‣ coach for agile, ux & product teams
‣ Société Générale ‣ NEC Solutions ‣ K.C. Dat ‣ Nippon Express ‣ Air Asia ‣ Singapore Zoo ‣ Jurong Birdpark ‣ Changi Airport Group ‣ M1
‣ Referral Candy ‣ That Green Space ‣ Arcstone ‣ KMK Online ‣ Bukalapak ‣ Foolproof ‣ SPH ‣ Jurnal ‣ BTPN / Jenius
‣ Mapletree ‣ VISA ‣ Robert BOSCH ‣ SPH, ST701 ‣ iProperty Group ‣ bellabox Australia &
Singapore ‣ Bicycl.asia
at The Collab Folks …
‣ Lippo Group ‣ EMC ‣ DBS ‣ AXA ‣ GroupM ‣ ASM ‣ Canberra DHS
MICHAEL ONG | @michaelon9 | [email protected]
i’ve worked with …
The Collab Folks Approach
Leadership Coaching
Connect external
Talent / Skills
EXPLORE
COLLAB
EVALUATE
the learningorganisation
Product Team Coaching
Talent / Skills Identification
Discover & Learn
Agile Mindset
Product Management
UserExperience Design
Software Engineering
Customised Learning
Learning Organisations
The Fifth Discipline : The Art and Practice of the learning Organisation
‣ Systems Thinking ‣ Personal Mastery ‣ Mental Models ‣ Building Shared Vision ‣ Team Learning
Supported by ‣ Open Space Technology
5 component technologies
ZA
NOTABLE COLLABORATIONSPartners
Who’s here today?
Let’s Warm Up‣ Are you a
‣ Product Manager
‣ Designer
‣ User Researcher ?
‣ Developer / Engineer
‣ QA ?
‣ Business Development ?
‣ Marketing ?
5 minutes
‣ Which Industries do you work in ?
What Challenges / Questions are you thinking about ?
Let’s Define Today‣ List down 1 to 3 Learning Goals you Have
‣ What questions do you have?
‣ What challenges do you face ?
5 minutes
Let’s get going !
Who? What? How? Why?
Journey towards User Experience Work& Challenges of Applying UX Processes
Agile Indonesia 2017
SHU - HA - RI
Shu - Ha - Ri is a way of thinking about how you learn a technique The name comes from Japanese martial arts (particularly Aikido), and Alistair Cockburn introduced it as a way of thinking about learning techniques and methodologies for software development.http://martinfowler.com/bliki/ShuHaRi.html
SHU - HA - RI
Shu: In the beginning stage ...
Ha: At this point the student begins to branch out ...
Ri: Now the student isn't learning from other people, but from his own practice.
SHU - IN THE BEGINNING STAGE
1999 - 2008
MICHAEL’S FIRST BUSINESS
FAILING … QUICKLY
THE PROJECT THAT HELP MICHAEL UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF RESEARCH‣ Cleaning inspection system
‣ designed, developed end-to-end by Michael
‣ on-site visits to observe user behaviour
‣ support & maintenance to adjust the product according to feedback
‣ Provide Compliance requirements to ISO standards for building inspection
‣ Customers
‣ Changi Airpot Terminal 1 & 2
‣ Paragon
‣ Esplanade, etc
Most importantly, paid for my year off in Internet Spaceships
THE GAME THAT HELPED UNDERSTAND MULTI-ROLES
‣ EVE Online is a persistent world massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) developed and published by CCP Games.
‣ Players of Eve Online can participate in a number of in-game professions and activities, including mining, piracy, manufacturing, trading, exploration, and combat (both player versus environment and player versus player).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eve_Online
Projects Delivered : 85Cycling done : not much
How did I feel ?
HA - AT THIS POINT THE STUDENT BEGINS TO BRANCH OUT
2008 to 2015
BUSINESS #3
FAILING … AGAIN !
STORY #1
‣ iProperty Group (Real Estate Portal)
‣ >10 years old (there for 3.5)
‣ 100+ to 300+ staff
‣ 4 main countries (MY, SG, ID, HK)
‣ connects real estate agents / agencies / developers
‣ to a few million property buyers & sellers
‣ 2015 : iProperty sold to News Corp (REA Group) for A$751 million
VENTURING INTO USER EXPERIENCE INDUSTRY
Aster Agile adoption at iProperty, CEO asked how we can be “mobile first”.
‣ 6 months
‣ 4 countries
‣ 120+ team members
‣ focused on “user experience” as a topic
‣ to identify where,how and who we would start with
‣ “in-house” approach with mobile team with its own budget acting like a vendor co-located within the company
4 WORKSHOPS
‣ mobile roadmap
‣ design strategy
‣ personas & scenarios
‣ information architecture
‣ task flows
‣ prototyping & testing
‣ development
‣ marketing launch & measuring
THE PROCESS
DESIGN STRATEGY
‣ Train the trainer
‣ I was trained at Republic Polytechnic during first workshop and with their assistance proceeded to carry out the rest of workshops to 120+ people
‣ Identify your successors and provide mentorship / training asap!
‣ Team leads took over Scrum teams after 1st year when I move to Product Owner position in new team
‣ New team Lead took over team when I moved on
‣ Individuals in our teams have mostly moved to team lead positions at 4 years after we introduced Agile/Scrum techniques
KEY LEARNINGS
‣ Communicate early and often
‣ Work with Marketing early to identify launch plans / bottlenecks
‣ Work with Customer Service / Sales early to train on product
‣ You can be Agile in a Enterprise, act like a Startup
‣ Understand your budget, control it
‣ Deliver results fast and measure
‣ After Mobile team rolled out apps for iPad, Windows, iPhone, Android across 3 countries in 9 month period, Mobile API is now used by Desktop sites
‣ Keep your team small (we had 5)
‣ Product Owner, UX/UI Designer, Back-end Dev, 2 Mobile Devs
‣ 6 apps in 9 months across 3 countries we operated in
KEY LEARNINGS
STORY #2
‣ bellabox (Beauty Discovery Service)
‣ >3 years old (there for 2)
‣ 20 to 35 staff
‣ 2 countries
‣ connects 700+ brands
‣ to a 100k+ audience
‣ 45k paying customers
‣ 2014: Bellabox sold to Fairfax (Allure Media) for $6 million
‣ 15 days
‣ 2 countries
‣ 20+ team members
‣ focused on “user experience” as a topic
‣ to identify where,how and who we would start with
‣ hybrid approach with design, development
‣ PO co-located at their office 80-90% of time
2 WORKSHOPS
‣ design strategy
‣ product requirements and analysis
‣ product roadmap
‣ information architecture
‣ task flows
‣ prototyping & testing
‣ development
‣ marketing launch & measuring
THE HIGH LEVEL PROCESS
DESIGN & BUILD STRATEGY - designed by the team based on team strengths
EVERYONE (INCLUDING ENGINEERS) LEARNING DESIGN
Legacy Systems
The Problem isn’t Legacy Systems It’s Legacy People and Legacy Customers / Users
Legacy People RESIST Change
Legacy Customers / Users DON’T CARE
http://thefinanser.com/2016/07/legacy-people-use-legacy-systems.html/https://gojko.net/2009/06/19/eric-evans-why-do-efforts-to-replace-legacy-systems-fail/
HOW TO FAIL
PHASED Approach
typical 3 phase approach
1) design and implementing the basics
2) completing the features of old system
3) implement some new and exciting features
business get tired of waiting
http://thefinanser.com/2016/07/legacy-people-use-legacy-systems.html/https://gojko.net/2009/06/19/eric-evans-why-do-efforts-to-replace-legacy-systems-fail/
HOW TO FAIL
PIECE BY PIECE Refactor legacy system piece by piece, extracting parts and cleaning them up UPHILL battle due to friction between new and old and more people getting added to new designs
business get tired of waiting
http://thefinanser.com/2016/07/legacy-people-use-legacy-systems.html/https://gojko.net/2009/06/19/eric-evans-why-do-efforts-to-replace-legacy-systems-fail/
‣ Business as usual while over-hauling a business is incredibly tough work
‣ We have had key project team members leave due to the hectic nature of running a business and creating a new platform
‣ Maintain focus on customer needs
‣ Don’t be distracted by growth. You are at critical juncture where lack of focus can delay project plans significantly
KEY LEARNINGS
‣ Hybrid model kinda works
‣ Lean In-house dev team
‣ Combined with Heavy out-sourced Design & Dev team
‣ Looking back, we would move towards in-house sooner rather than later after majority of work is completed BUT hiring is tough (for everyone)
‣ Learn from Enterprise
‣ Be great at documentation, process design
‣ Identify bottlenecks early and work on removing obstacles
KEY LEARNINGS
COMMUNITIES
#ProductBeer
TAKES COMMITMENT TO BUILD COMMUNITIES
Companies I’ve helped : 6People I trained : 200+People I coached / mentored : 20+People we helped get involved in community : A few thousand
Cycling done : > 10,000km and quite a few countries!
How did I feel ?
RI - NOW THE STUDENT ISN’T LEARNING FROM OTHER PEOPLE, BUT FROM HIS OWN PRACTICE
2015 to PRESENT
#ProductBeer
STORY #3‣ KMK Online
‣ Digital Arm of Emtek Group (Operates SCTV, Indosiar & O-Channel)
‣ Owns and Operates
‣ Blackberry Messenger (BBM)
‣ liputan6.com (news portal)
‣ vidio.com (video portal)
‣ bintang.com (entertainment portal)
‣ bola.com (sports portal)
‣ karir.com (job portal)
‣ +++ many others
‣ 250M+ monthly visits
‣ 70M+ monthly unique users
‣ 1 day + 15 days + follow up practice
‣ Jakarta
‣ All KMK Teams + vidio.com for Design sprint
‣ focused on “user experience” as a topic
‣ to identify where, how and who we would start with
1 WORKSHOP + 3 WEEK DESIGN SPRINT
‣ Business as usual while training is tough work
‣ We used a pair coaching approach for observations and pairing with teams on-site
‣ Maintain focus on user needs
‣ The Vidio team had many priorities and needed a crystal clear strategic focus to enable them to prioritise via user research
‣ Train the trainers
‣ After the training, the team worked with other product teams to start design sprints and eventually hired internal User Researchers
KEY LEARNINGS
STORY #4‣ Singapore Press Holdings : Digital Division
‣ Digital Arm of SPH
‣ Owns and Operates
‣ AsiaOne
‣ STJobs
‣ FastJobs
‣ +++ many others
‣ Over 4 months
‣ Singapore
‣ AsiaOne, STJobs, Fastjobs for Product & UX Program
‣ focused on “user experience” as a topic
‣ to identify where, how and who we would start with
9 WORKSHOPS
‣ Business as usual while training is tough work
‣ We used 3 coach approach for observations and pairing with teams on-site for UX office hours
‣ Maintain focus on user needs
‣ Each team were at different product maturity and had to identify clearly their user needs via research
‣ Fundamental research techniques helped to open their minds towards answering “What do our users need” instead of “What we can develop for users”
KEY LEARNINGS
MORE COMMUNITIES
UX SG/MY/ID/HK/PH
Business Agility
AgileSG/MY/ID
#ProductBeer SG/KL/ID/SFPM Huddle KL
Product Tank SGProduct Camp SG
Companies we’ve help : 20People we trained : lost count!People we coach / mentor : 30+People we helped get involved in communities : A few more thousandCommunities we get involved in : 3 x 4 countries
Cycling planned : 3 months Trans America in 2018
How do I feel ?
THINKING ABOUT THE SYSTEMS WE ARE A PART OF …
• SHU
• SILO in Tech with no understand about the wider business operations hurt the successful roll out of products my teams worked on
• SPEAKING with Customers / Stakeholders early
• TAKE TIME OFF and learn something different
• HA
• BRIDGE people as soon as possible
• not only UX , Tech, Prod but all the various teams in a company
• Speaking with the people who create the products and influencing CULTURE CHANGE takes time
• the right COMMUNITIES are important for personal and professional growth
• RI
• DON’T BE AFRAID TO FAIL
• 105 clients later, I’m still learning something new from each client and applying this into each new coaching with product teams and my latest business
• FIND LIKE MINDED partners
• I keep in touch with all ex-team members and see where they are in life, and check in about their work
Trends in UXAgile Indonesia 2017
ENGINEERING
Engineering is traditionally about FEATURE DELIVERY not about learning about the user/
MOST organisations have a culture of DELIVERY.
Designing Products
Today
Physical + Digital
we design for
Tomorrow
we design for
ConnectedExperience!
Yesterday
Desktop
Mobile
we design for
Physical
increasing need for systems thinking
Melissa Perri :Do you agree?
“Product Management with no User Experience Design creates functional products that don’t make users excited. User Experience Design with no Product Management produces delightful products that don’t become businesses.”
Source : Melissa Perry on Changing the Conversation about Product Management vs. UX http://melissaperri.com/2016/01/17/pmvsux/#.VrDr4jZ96L7
PUTTING IT TOGETHER USING DESIGN SPRINTS
https://jthoyer.wordpress.com/2015/09/30/google-io-2014-the-design-sprint-from-google-ventures-to-google/
WE WANT
GREAT EXPERIENCES More or less features doesn’t matter. Engineering often sees PROTOTYPING as outside of engineering
MAKE PROTOTYPING a first class member of your tech stack to cultivate a culture of LEARNING
Jeneanne RaeDo you agree?
“Integrating Design into your company involves more than just hiring superstar designers. It takes a long-term commitment and developing a culture that brings everyone up to speed”
Source : Jeneanna Rae on 6 Keys for Turning Your Company into a Design Powerhouse http://www.fastcodesign.com/1669433/6-keys-for-turning-your-company-into-a-design-powerhouse?
ROI of Design-centric firms
Creating sustainable competitive advantage through design is not a quick or easy task.
Source : DMI Design Value Index (Source: Design Management Institute) http://designforeurope.eu/news-opinion/value-design-business
Design Maturity Ladder
Source : The Design Maturity Ladder (Source: Danish Design Centre) http://designforeurope.eu/news-opinion/value-design-business
Developing a UX Strategy Blueprint
Credit : https://www.uie.com/articles/ux_strategy_blueprint/
Challenges
Aspirations
Focus Areas
Guiding Principles
Activities
Measurements
What are the common objections?Do you face objections in introducing User Experience?
When introducing User Experience topics to your organisation, what questions do you face?
10 minutes
but Change is _HARD_, what if … Sounds worrying ?
‣ Talking to Customers Isn’t a Part of an Organization’s Culture ‣ Leadership Doesn’t Have a Clear Vision ‣ Leadership and the Design Team Don’t Share the Same Vision ‣ The Design Team Hasn’t Laid a Sound Foundation by Establishing a
Design Process ‣ The Designers on a Team Aren’t on the Same Page ‣ An Organization Doesn’t Allocate Its Resources Properly ‣ An Organization Encourages Feature Creep ‣ There’s No Effort Dedicated to Fit and Finish
Source : http://www.uxmatters.com/mt/archives/2012/04/organizational-challenges-for-ux-professionals.php
Design Freedom vs Cost of ChangeDesign Freedom vs Cost Of Change
Credit :Adaptive Path
Design Freedom vs Cost Of Change
As a team member, you are in the position to
Take charge
‣ Listen up!
‣ Be the voice of honesty and open-mindedness
‣ Get practical and collaborative
‣ Make it good enough, but no better
Source : http://uxmastery.com/how-to-apply-ux-in-an-organisation-new-to-user-centred-design/ Image Credit: Michael Ong
Who are your customers?
Understand Your Environment
Can you develop personas to determine
Demographics Behaviours Needs & Goals
Who are your stakeholders?
Understand Your Environment
designers developers qa marketing sales operations customers service finance Image Credit: Michael Ong
Where are the problem areas?
Understand Organisational Key Concerns
Communication ?
IT Responsiveness?
Bad Customer Service?
Image Credit: Michael Ong
Agile?How are you delivering projects?
it is also helpful to identify what type of project delivery method you are using in your team
perhaps you are in transition and it is helpful to know the contraints and paths towards each state (whether it will succeed or fail)
Put it togetherGoals , Vision, Strategy
‣ Run workshops to educate basics of User Experience
‣ Hire dedicated UX team members or go at it yourself
‣ Measure
‣ Present
‣ Repeat
Image Credit: Michael Ong
Define your own Product Design Process with your team
Image Credit: Michael Ong
Image Credit: Michael Ong
Setup the product roadmap and focus on deliveryS P R I N T
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Almost done !
Who? What? How? Why?
What we covered today
Real Life experience on how Agile & UX are relevant to software development, How to Integrate Them
Challenges in practicing Agile & UX in Organisations
Agile Indonesia 2017
GREAT BOOKS YOU SHOULD READ
Tools you can use
‣ Primarily use Google Docs
‣ Draw is great for task flow diagrams
‣ I favor BPMN
‣ We also use diagramming tools like Cacoo
‣ For prototyping
‣ Paper, Sketch, Mockflow, Balsamiq, Mockflow, Fireworks, Photoshop works depending on your team
‣ For sharing visual designs and collaboration
‣ Google Draw, Invision
‣ For usability testing
‣ Silverback or Morae
‣ For Mobile Usability testing, setting up a rig for camera is quite easy.
What will you do with the takeaways today?
Follow-up‣ On a Post-It
‣ Write down your Name, Title, Company and E-mail / Phone
‣ State one takeaway you believe you can use in the next 30 days
‣ We will check-in with you 30 days from now on your progress
Retrospective
We ask for feedback all the time!
‣ What did you like about the session?
‣ What did you not enjoy?
‣ How could we improve ?
MICHAEL | @thecollabfolks | [email protected] questions? contact me via e-mail or setup a time to chat.
Q&A
MICHAEL | @thecollabfolks | [email protected] questions? contact us via e-mail or setup a time to chat.
Agile Indonesia 2017
Thank You
& enjoy the weekend!
Agile Indonesia 2017