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1 WAUKESHA WATER UTILITY
2 CITY OF WAUKESHA, WISCONSIN
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4 PUBLIC BRIEFING ON GREAT LAKES WATER APPLICATION
5 Public Comment for Department of Natural Resources
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8 PUBLIC COMMENTS
9 November 13, 2013
10 6:00 p.m.
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13 Oak Creek Community Center
14 8580 South Howell Avenue
15 Oak Creek, Wisconsin
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22 Reported by Amy L. Schneider, CSR/RPR
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1 TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS
2 PARTICIPANT BORCHARDT: John
3 Borchardt, B O R C H A R D T. I'm for the
4 diversion. I think it will be an improvement to
5 the water. Hopefully, it will not increase
6 flooding. That's it. Simple.
7 PARTICIPANT GRYCZKA: Michael
8 Gryczka, G R Y C Z K A. I support the concept and
9 the water application as it was restated in
10 October. I believe this is one of the most viable
11 and acceptable ways of getting water. I think of
12 it as a fountain where you draw it up, and we're
13 returning 100 percent. The fact that the water is
14 clean and has very low impact on the surrounding
15 environment pleases me, so I'm in support of the
16 application. Thank you.
17 PARTICIPANT RICHARDS: Dale Richards
18 from Oak Creek. I thought the presentation was
19 more than adequate, and I'm totally supportive of
20 this project. That's it.
21 (Whereupon, the statements concluded
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22 at 8:00 p.m.)
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1 STATE OF WISCONSIN )
) SS:
2 RACINE COUNTY )
3 I, AMY L. SCHNEIDER, a Notary Public in
4 and for the State of Wisconsin, do hereby certify that
5 the PUBLIC COMMENTS were recorded by me and reduced to
6 writing under my personal direction.
7 I further certify that said public
8 comments were taken at 8580 South Howell Avenue,
9 Oak Creek, Wisconsin, on November 13, 2013, commencing at
10 6:00 p.m., and concluding at 8:00 p.m.
11 I further certify that I am not a
12 relative or employee or attorney or counsel of any of the
13 parties, or a relative or employee of such attorney or
14 counsel, or financially interested directly or indirectly
15 in this action.
16 In witness whereof, I have hereunto set
17 my hand and affixed my Seal of Office at Racine,
18 Wisconsin, this 21st day of November, 2013.
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AMY L. SCHNEIDER - Notary Public
22 In and for the State of Wisconsin
My Commission expires: 6/14/2015
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1 WAUKESHA WATER UTILITY
2 CITY OF WAUKESHA, WISCONSIN
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4 PUBLIC BRIEFING ON GREAT LAKES WATER APPLICATION
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Public Comments for Department of Natural Resources
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9 PUBLIC COMMENTS
10 Thursday, November 14, 2013
11 6:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m.
12 at
13 GATEWAY TECHNICAL COLLEGE
1001 South Main Street
14 Racine, Wisconsin
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17 Reported by: Wendy L. Hanneman, RPR
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1 A P P E A R A N C E S:
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Mayor John Dickert
3 730 Washington Avenue
Racine, WI 53403
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5 Allison Chernouski
2219 West High Street
6 Racine, WI 53404
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Richard Phannenstill
8 8009 County Line Road
Caledonia, WI 53402
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1 TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS
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3 DIRECT TESTIMONIAL STATEMENT
4 By: Mayor John Dickert
730 Washington Avenue
5 Racine, WI 53403
6 MR. DICKERT: Number one, I am the vice
7 chair of the St. Lawrence -- Great Lakes & St.
8 Lawrence Cities Initiative board of directors,
9 okay. Our president of our board is in opposition
10 to this diversion, as well as our board of
11 directors, and I am also opposed.
12 Um, there's a couple things that are of
13 concern to us. Number one, that the Great Lakes
14 compact directs that the decision for a withdrawal
15 from the Great Lakes is supposed to be the last
16 resource. This is being used as a first resource.
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18 The next thing is that we have seen no
19 effort by Waukesha to provide testing downstream to
20 the City of Racine as promised. So that we will
21 not know the fluent that's coming down the Root
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22 River, which we need.
23 And, third, that there is a -- what's the
24 best way to put it? There is a, um, there's
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1 requested versus the amount of water that's needed.
2 We believe that the request for water is far
3 greater than the need.
4 And, lastly, I would say that the
5 opportunity to filter the water that Waukesha is
6 getting currently, or to dig a shallower well, are
7 options that need to be discovered first.
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1 DIRECT TESTIMONIAL STATEMENT
2 By: Allison Chernouski
2219 West High Street
3 Racine, WI 53404
4 MS. CHERNOUSKI: Our communities along
5 the Root River have invested millions of dollars in
6 improving the conditions of the Root River, and
7 we're working on extensive restoration efforts
8 going forward.
9 I'm not aware that the City of Waukesha has
10 ever done anything in the past to help clean up the
11 Root River, or Lake Michigan, for that matter. Why
12 haven't -- why hasn't Waukesha shown an interest in
13 stewardship or support for cleanup and protection
14 of the rivers or the lake on this side of the
15 divide?
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1 DIRECT TESTIMONIAL STATEMENT
2 By: Richard Phannenstill
8009 County Line Road
3 Caledonia, WI 53412
4 MR. PHANNENSTILL: In brief, I live very
5 near the Root River, about a quarter mile, and I
6 live near the Hunt's landfill, which is super fun.
7 The road there, County Line Road, it
8 floods, Root River floods regularly, probably ten
9 to fifteen times a year. All the land around there
10 is in flood plains, and the police will have the
11 road blocked off, you know, because the water
12 crosses the road. Often times during the year,
13 spring especially, our house will be surrounded by
14 water on three sides, often four sides.
15 So what I was going to ask, I assume
16 there's flood plains in the Waukesha area, and I
17 was wondering if this project is going to reduce,
18 you know, their flooding as a result, like move
19 water away from their flood plains and make them
20 less, I guess, deep, whatever. And if that's the
21 case, it's going to be moving the water then
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22 towards our area, which is then going to increase
23 the amount of water in our flood plain.
24 And my -- in the '82 flood -- or the 2008
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1 know, granted there's only 6 inches of water being
2 added, but now that means I have 6 1/2 feet of
3 water, you know, in my basement. In the
4 summertime, though, that 6 inches of water makes no
5 big difference, because the river is dry, it can
6 handle it. In the fall time, spring, when the snow
7 melts, it can't handle it.
8 And I was wondering if they are going to
9 clear the, like dredge the Root River to make the
10 water move faster. Because it's probably got feet
11 of, you know -- you know, soot or whatever you want
12 to call it, soot built up over the years. And the
13 Root River is just loaded with downed trees, people
14 throw tires, you know, in there, and are they going
15 to clear that out, you know, to help the -- help
16 the flow of anything? And then I'll be negatively
17 impacted -- you know, it's a good idea, they need
18 the water, but are we going to be negatively
19 impacted by it?
20 Because, like I said, water will surround
21 our property all the time from the flood plain. So
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22 we're going to be getting an added 6 inches. And,
23 you know, if I had flood insurance, I guess, which
24 is expensive, that would be kind of like a -- say,
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1 so when we do get hit with the floods.
2 So I guess the question would be, would
3 Waukesha pay for flood insurance for residents in
4 that area? It's like talking to a wall, not a
5 smirk on the face. Yeah, so.
6 So I just basically want to know, too, if
7 there's a plan to move the water swiftly, which
8 will reduce the flood plain in the area? I haven't
9 heard any talk on that. So I guess those are my
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1 STATE OF WISCONSIN )
) SS:
2 COUNTY OF MILWAUKEE )
3 I, Wendy L. Hanneman, Registered
4 Professional Reporter and Notary Public in and for the
5 State of Wisconsin, do hereby certify that the Public
6 Comments were reported by me and reduced to writing
7 under my personal direction.
8 I further certify that said comments were
9 taken at GATEWAY TECHNICAL COLLEGE, 1001 South Main
10 Street, Racine, Wisconsin, on the 14th day of November,
11 2013, commencing at 6:00 p.m. and concluding at 8:00
12 p.m.
13 I further certify that I am not a relative
14 or employee or attorney or counsel of any of the
15 parties, or a relative or employee of such attorney or
16 counsel, or financially interested directly or
17 indirectly in this action.
18 In witness whereof, I have hereunto set my
19 hand and affixed my seal of office at Milwaukee,
20 Wisconsin, this 18th day of November, 2013.
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22 Wendy L. Hanneman - Notary Public
In and for the State of Wisconsin
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My Commission Expires: October 9, 2017.
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