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In candid conversation with Ishan ji
October 18, 2015 at 3:22pm
An interesting interview of a Saint
Son
'WHEN I EXPLORE THE LO!E" I SEE THAT THE WORL# HAS !E$O%E %ORE IN#IAN
THAN IN#IA& IT IS S WHO NEE# TO HOL# ON TO OR ROOTS AN# STOP !LIN#L(
$HASIN $ARNAL PRSITS'Namah shivay! Ishan Shivanand ji has been on tor across varios
contries, cities and tons, "or the #ast si$ months% &ere's sharin( e$cerpts o" a persona# interaction he he#d a
day prior to #eavin( "or &ima#ayas hich is one o" the most peri#os e$peditions in the or#d ith e$treme#yadverse eather conditions invo#vin( a 100)m o" tre))in( and an e*a##y scary prospect o" havin( to "ace a
crater "## o" di""ic#t sitations, one o" the (reatest mytho#o(ica# mysteries% &ere are his *ips "rom a
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"reehee#in( chat e had ith him be"ore he #e"t "or a cha##en(in( e$p#oration%IN+-.I/-It has been a
*estion on many #ips Ishan ji% /hy so mch (race abroad merica is trnin( #c)ier ne$t year%IS&N Iirst
e need to nderstand hat bein( orthy is% /ho is Indian and ho is merican +he or#d has become an
open society% 4o are "ree to embrace any c#tre, spirita# and re#i(ios #eanin(s% +his #ibera# atmosphere has
#ed s to #eave or roots and ho#d on to the materia#istic spar)#e o" the /est%
It is the bi((est irony that the peop#e hom e term pejorative#y as '"orei(ners' have become more o" Indians
by practicin( and depositin( their "aith in hat is tr#y Indian va#es o" acceptance, "or(iveness, nconditiona#
#ove and (ratitde% they have become so mch more open to receivin( the ener(y% +hey are not stc) ith their
prejdices% ## this has happened even as e are bsy b#amin( the (overnments "or corrption, pointin( "in(ers
to others and i##"##y enjoyin( the b#ame (ame% /e have stopped ta)in( pride in hat e have and rather ta)e
(reater interest in a## that is spposed#y ron( ith s%/e have #ost anserabi#ity and are stc) ith the
diseases and s""erin( so mch that even as an n#i(htened 6r o#d (race s, a## that e o#d desire is
some or#d#y p#easre%7oreover e have become s#aves to mar)etin(% /hat is ors is bein( so#d to s% s a
(#arin( e$amp#e, e are byin( a natra# resorce ater at sch e$orbitant rates% Its p#ain#y si##y% /hat i"
ater as #e"t to be in rivers So many bott#es in every shop as o" today% Ima(ine a## that ater irri(atin( the"ie#ds o" the "armers% t ho cares amon(st snd i bet the day is not "ar hen e i## be cstomers o"
specia# air or o$y(en cy#inders% 9ome ia#i and e i## have "irecrac)ers rea)in( havoc ith the
ecosystem% IN+-.I/-+hat's indeed tre charya%IS&N II as in stria recent#y% Sadha)s there are so
receptive% +hey are i##in( to ta)e responsibi#ity "or their actions% 4o on't see anyone en(a(ed in deep
conversations over the prob#ems a""ectin( their nation% -ather they m## over ho they can brin( a chan(e%
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+hey are i##in( to ta)e onership o" ri(hts and ron(s% +his ma)es them orthy%
Sadhaks in Austria don't carry motives. They have no pretensions. They just start singing and dancing. And
since there is no impure intention, each one celebrates the success of the other. No one is looking to impress the
Guru. They are all in their rhythm. They are not driven by oneupmanship but are taking vicarious pleasure in
the triumph of others, hom they see as their on. !e have a lot to learn from them in terms of forbearance.
In merica, sadha)s are i##in( to see the science hen here everythin( is bein( termed as re#i(ion% ;et me te##
yo a #ot o" research is bein( done in
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&ere, e re"se to see beyond or )nee pains and deterioratin( hea#th% +here is a mad scramb#e to otdo the
other, ma#ice i o#d say% ven a smi#e is seen ith so mch sspicion% &o on arth i## this create a
con(enia# atmosphere "or &o#y 7asters to sstain their presence
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India is not abot (eo(raphica#
bondaries% very person ho has Indianness is e*a##y an Indian% +o#erance, compassion, acceptance,
"or(iveness, anserabi#ity, (ratitde is hat is bein( Indian% +ime is p hen ho#din( nationa#ity *a#i"ied oneto be orshipped% It is time "or s to tr#y become Indians% On#y then the 7asters i## descend and brin( more
peace to s%/e need to inc#cate a## "orms o" discip#ine in s physica# =not jmpin( on to the 6r>, emotiona#
=respect and compassion even "or the 6r>, menta# =correct tho(ht process hen inter"acin( ith the 6r>
and spirita# =hat to see)>%IN+-.I/-/hat are yor%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%IS&N I=Interrptin( the
pase>%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%id I te## yo that the 6erman trans#ation o" r(a Saptashati eej 7antratma) Sadhna is
ready% ?#ease share ith a## on "aceboo)% Oh and yes SS has a#so ready in 6jarati, +e#( and en(a#i% Soon
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e'## have it avai#ab#e everyhere%
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IN+-.I/-+hat is indeed
a very pro"ond thin( to have )non Ishan ji% /e hear that a#i shivir has received too many app#ications and
the vene i## be chan(ed%IS&N Ih no% +hey have an e$pandab#e space capacity% it is (oin( to be"antastic%IN+-.I/-4o seem so "## o" ener(y% 4et no shivirs rond the corner% /hat are yor p#ans no
IS&N I&aha% Is it &mmm% 7ay be I am or)in( on "or (rand comics on "or divine isses, that has made
me so "## o" ener(y% 9omic on aba ji's inspirin( story too is a#most ready% Oh and toni(ht I am o"" to
-oop@nd% It is one o" the to(hest and most "ata# jorneys one can nderta)e% I am pac)in( 10 poer ban)s% It
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i## be one (ood cha##en(e%
IN+-.I/-Ishan ji, the recent Shiv 4o( @isan Shivir in -ajasthan has trned ot to be the most sccess"#
one ever, ith 25000 attendance o" "armers a#one and aba ji ta#)in( hi(h#y o" the receptivity o" the "armersthere%IS&N I/e##, it doesn't srprise me one #itt#e bit becase -ajasthan is very specia# "or aba ji% &e has
per"ormed so mch tapa here% &e )nos this p#ace inside ot% #ot more is in st"" i (ess% 4o o#d )no
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better% IN+-.I/-4or
assessment is entire#y tre Ishan ji% +a#)s are nderay to (ive at #east 3 more "ree o" cost Shiv 4o( (ric#tre
shivirs to -ajasthan% +he "armers are reportin( tremendos improvement in their #i"e% stonishin( res#ts havecome ot%IS&N I/e##, aba ji is aba ji% mirac#es jst "o##o him% One remains in his ae% 4o are #c)y
yo're a#ays arond to itness% perhaps even more than me%
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IN+-.I/-+hat is yor modesty Ishan ji% I" it may be as)ed hat are aba ji's p#ans &e's si(na##ed his
intent to nderta)e #ess and #ess shivirs "rom this year% /hat is in storeIS&N Iaba ji has been pro#i"ic,
ntirin( and very very "ocsed% Over the corse o" the #ast year he has been shtt#in( "rom one contry to the
other becase he ants to ma$imiAe the nmber o" peop#e possessin( the ener(y empoerment hich can he#p
hmanity ascend% t there has to be a prpose, a cap on the dration "or hich he i## be re*ired to rn
across continents in his endeavor to en#i(hten as many #ives as possib#e%
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Shiv 4o( Internationa# orms and no Shiv 4o( .irta# shivirs i## be p#at"orms "rom here aba ji i##
impart the isdom that he a#ays has anted to impart% +he ener(y e$pended in trave# and other a##ied
activities i## a## be channe#iAed toards (ivin( more ener(y in sadhna% I'm (#ad that sittin( in ashram,
recordin( shivir mod#es, he i## reach ot to more peop#e than by tirin( himse#" otherise% p#s point is that
this ay more peop#e o#d bene"it ith saner ti#iAation o" resorces% .irta# shivirs i## start soon% Ne$t year
in "act it is (oin( to be a## abot Shiv 4o( .irta# shivirs, startin( ith Siddha hyan% i thin) the bac) end
in"rastrctre is a#ready in the process o" bein( readied% So that is (ood nes "or s a##%