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Long time to release
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Long time to release• 7.0 released September 25 2015
• 7.0.1 released May 22 2016
• 7.0.2 released October 21 2016
• 7.1 released March 11 2017
• 8.0 Release process started June 6th 2017
• Current status - about to be released
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No packages available
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No packages available
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Old hardware only
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Old hardware only
• Tegra K1 (SoC), NVIDIA Jetson TK1 (Dev Board)
• Allwinner - A31, A83T, H2+ and H3 (all SoC)
• A13, A64, R8 and GR8 in current
• A20 support is in 7, plans for FDT-ing
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But no-one’s heard of them
• A83T: BananaPi BPI-M3
• H2+: Xunlong Orange Pi Zero
• H3: FriendlyARM, Sinovoip, Xunlong
• NanoPi NEO (256MB) up to
• OrangePi Plus 2E (2GB)
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From the horse’s mouth
• ftp http://agc.ac/2017/jmcneill-20170919.script
• script -p jmcneill-20170919.script
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Other hardware
• Intel QAT card support
• Support for VAXstation 4000 TURBOchannel USB and GPIO
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No LLVM/clang support
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LLVM/Clang 5.0 intree
• Joerg maintaining
• Still optional, off by default
• Regular testing with pkgsrc bulk builds
• Particularly good at finding compiler regressions
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LLVM/Clang 5.0 intree• Kamil has been working for TNF
• lldb and debugging infrastructure
• Upstreaming sanitizer support
• asan, ubsan working
• tsan, and msan
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No virtualisation
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No virtualisation
• Xen
• Usermode
• RUMP
• No Bhyve/VMM/KVM equivalent
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No signing
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No signing
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Outdated utilities in base
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Outdated utilities in base
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Networking is outdated
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Networking is outdated
• No BBR or RACK in TCP congestion
• bouyer’s sockcan implementation
• dhcpcd’s home
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Difficult to develop
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Difficult to develop for• build.sh
• cross-OS building AND cross-arch building
• distrib/utils/embedded/mkimage
• pkgsrc/sysutils/{mklivecd,mkmemstick}
• All the u-boot packages
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Difficult to develop for
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Run by morons
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Run by morons
• Others take a large amount of time and effort
• Board and core team (like a company)
• AGMs every year
• Board elections every year
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No modern file systems
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No modern file systems
• No Hammer
• ZFS is out of date (but being updated)
• LFS was worked on during Google SoC
• Puffs/Pud allow FUSE filesystems reliably
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No Dtrace
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No Dtrace
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No Dtrace support
• Added syscall support [christos 20150307]
• Added lockstat support [christos 20150308]
• Toolkit scripts from sevan in last few days
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No NVME support
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No NVME support
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No NCQ support
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No NCQ support
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Developers out of touch
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Developers out of touch
• Any developers here?
• Did you bring all private keys and 2FA tokens?
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No DVCS Repos
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No DVCS Repos
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No DVCS Repos
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No DVCS Repos
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Testing is crap
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Testing is crap
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Testing is crap
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Reproducible Builds• 302 Return Code to Christos’s talk
• Way more complex than I expected
• First BSD to complete Debian run
• First “big unix” to complete Debian run
• Minix uses NetBSD user land and build system
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No FDT
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No FDT
• sys/arch/arm/fdt/
• sys/arch/evbarm/fdt/
• sys/dev/fdt/
• sys/external/bsd/libfdt
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Everything else
• ptrace(2) fixes from kamil
• nat’s new sound driver, bta2dpd(8)
• msaitoh’s updates for ixg(4) and ixv(4)
• alnsn’s addition of AES-XTS to cgd(4)
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Everything else
• jmcneill’s new SDMMC driver
• maxv’s amd64/i386 overhaul
• xen kernel modulkes (maxv)
• flxd’s getrealloc/setrealloc changes to scsictl(8)
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Everything else• lua now at 5.3.4 in kernel
• secmodel_sandbox - https://www.bsdcan.org/2017/schedule/track/Security/835.en.html
• ext4fs - jdolocek’s extents, dir_nlink and gdt_csum/uninit_bg support
• flxd’s Turbochannel USB/GPIO option
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Everything else
• ozaki-r MPSAFE network changes
• nick-nhusb merge - some USB3 support
• GPT support, including booting
• PCI support for DNARD/Shark
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Everything else
• ip6addrctl - from FreeBSD
• christos’s blacklistd
• maxv’s security work
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Everything else
• vioscsi - christos/jdolecek
• Google compute engine - bsiegert
• nouveau - riastradh
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Summary
• Lots new in NetBSD 8
• Lots of people working very hard
• Available RSN
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