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Post Title: DSG Fluid and Filter Technical Write-UpPosted by: Sureguy at 8:24 PM 8-20-2008
I haven't seen one done by anyone on here so I am adding mine. Hope it helps someone.
I decided to do a technical write up on the service you should be doing every 40K miles.
The transmission has to be cold at start of service in order to adjust fluid level properly. I'd let the car sit overnight so that itgives you time to do what you need to do.
Parts you'll need
6x 1L of DSG Oil OE# G 052 182 A2 $18.34/1LDSG Oil Filter OE# 02E 305 051 C $43.22
Tools you'll Need
Ross Tech HEX-CAN cable and computer14MM Allen socket (for drain plug)24MM Hex Socket (for filter)8MM Allen Socket (for overflow tube)T20 Torx (for airbox inlet)
VAS 6262
or
I have this tool AST 1000 Fluid system
withAST ATF 106
First you'll need to remove the upper engine cover/airfilter
It is difficult to remove this cover because of the way it is held on. I pull up in the back first as it is reinforced. Remove MAFconnector, clips for turbo inlet and fresh air inlet. Watch out for J nuts on the airbox inlet, if they come out put them back onthe way they came off.
Next you'll want to remove the filter housing. It is located under the battery and is hard to see at first. Use a 24MM socketwith extension to loosen the housing. Reach down and unscrew the housing and tilt it in it's bore to drain the fluid back intothe trans. Once it is done draining pull housing out from behind the engine. It is a tight fit and requires patience. Pull filter outsame direction. Replace filter in opposite order. The filters do not come with O-rings so reuse old one. I's assume at somepoint there will be one included with the filter but for now it is okay to reuse. After the filter has been replaced, install enginecover and reconnect MAF harness and clips and torx screws.
Next you are going to go under the car. With the car properly raised off ground using suitable jackstands or ramps, removedrain plug using 14MM Allen socket. Use a container able to hold approximately 6L of fluid. Once the plug is removed you willnotice that not much fluid comes out. Once the initial fluid stops you can use an 8MM Allen or Allen socket to remove theplastic overflow tube inside the drain hole. This is where you will drain 5L of fluid.
Once the fluid has stopped draining replace plastic overflow tube and tighten to 3 nm.
Next you will be inserting VAS 6262 Tool or AST ATF 106 tool in place of drain plug.
The VAS 6262 utilizes the DSG fluid bottles to fill the transmission. It is more time consuming to do it this way but should becheaper than purchasing the AST system. However if you are doing alot of trans services it pays for itself fast. From this pointon I will be talking only about the AST system.
You will now need to fill the AST bottle with the DSG fluid. It holds about 3.5L of oil so you will need to refill before the engineis started.
Now connect the AST hose to the fitting you previously inserted into the drain hole.
Connect VAG-COM to vehicle and access transmission electronics. Go to Data block 19 and monitor Transmission Fluid Temp.
Pump 5.5L of fluid into the transmission and close off valve. Go to the topside of the car and start engine. Holding brake,move gear selector into each position for 3 seconds and return to park. Now let idle and watch temp on screen. Once the tempis at 35 deg Celcius, remove adapter, hose and allow excess fluid to drain. Once the fluid level is correct it will slow to a drip.At this point replace drain plug with new aluminum washer and torque to 45 nm. Clean off oil and test drive. Enjoy!
Modified by Sureguy at 11:53 AM 8-21-2008
Post Title: Re: DSG Fluid and Filter Technical Write-Up (Sureguy)Posted by: Sureguy at 8:26 PM 8-20-2008
Of course if you don't want to buy the tool you can always make one. http://deviantspeed.com/diy-ds...s6262
Post Title: Re: DSG Fluid and Filter Technical Write-Up (Sureguy)Posted by: agpatel21 at 9:24 PM 8-20-2008
You should also make sure that when you are doing the final step. To have the car level so the right amount of fluid comesout. This will let you make sure its filled to the proper level and not a little less because the car being on a slope.
Post Title: Re: DSG Fluid and Filter Technical Write-Up (agpatel21)Posted by: Arin@APR at 9:32 PM 8-20-2008
Quote, originally posted by agpatel21 »
You should also make sure that when you are doing the final step. To have the car level so the right amount offluid comes out. This will let you make sure its filled to the proper level and not a little less because the carbeing on a slope.
To the OP, this is an important step which according to the photos was not followed!
Post Title: Re: DSG Fluid and Filter Technical Write-Up (Arin@APR)Posted by: Sureguy at 1:30 AM 8-21-2008
Good point. If you use a set of ramps the trans actually sits pretty level. Otherwise a rack is preferred.
Post Title: FV-QRPosted by: Sureguy at 2:56 PM 8-22-2008
Can this get added to the DYI Trans section?
Post Title: FV-QRPosted by: MFZERO at 3:19 PM 8-22-2008
Nice work
Post Title: AHHHHPosted by: linux_guy at 5:23 PM 8-22-2008
I wish I could do it. Besides dealer ships who can do this properly? I assume this is not regular shop kind of stuff?
And how much is this at the stealerships?
Post Title: Re: AHHHH (linux_guy)Posted by: Sureguy at 6:17 PM 8-22-2008
It's really not that hard. The biggest hurdle you have to get over is that it is not filled from the top. Once you canconceptualize how the service works it's cake. If you've done one you can do it within 30 min again with the right tools.
Post Title: Re: DSG Fluid and Filter Technical Write-Up (Sureguy)Posted by: imhondude at 7:44 PM 11-13-2008
UP
Post Title: FV-QRPosted by: squitiere at 7:51 PM 11-13-2008
sticky, please
Post Title: Re: FV-QR (squitiere)Posted by: lonepatrone at 7:57 PM 11-13-2008
Quote, originally posted by squitiere »
sticky, please
second
Post Title: Re: FV-QR (lonepatrone)Posted by: imhondude at 11:24 PM 2-4-2009
Quote, originally posted by lonepatrone »
second
+3
Post Title: Posted by: f_399 at 11:39 PM 2-4-2009
whats that blue car in the back???
Post Title: Re: (f_399)Posted by: absoluteczech at 11:58 PM 2-4-2009
Quote, originally posted by f_399 »
whats that blue car in the back???
mkiv r32 w/ bbs ch?
Post Title: Re: (f_399)Posted by: 805 at 12:00 AM 2-5-2009
Quote, originally posted by f_399 »
whats that blue car in the back???
With the CH's?
Post Title: Re: (805)Posted by: f_399 at 12:02 AM 2-5-2009
yeah looks good even from just that small preview
anyway back on topic, my bad
Post Title: Posted by: Speeddemon69 at 5:05 AM 2-5-2009
what do you guys mean by leveled? like the car has to be on a lift or on 4 jack stands? also how does the fluid go in if you doit one quart at a time with the other hose?
Post Title: Re: (Speeddemon69)Posted by: Tim Birney at 6:17 AM 2-5-2009
Normally the fluid is gravity fed (think of an IV setup as seen in Hospitals).The pump in this write-up is pricey, so I went to Murray's Auto and purchased a $6.50 Valvoline hand pump.The threads on this pump don't work on the DSG bottles, but it doesn't matter.There is an extension tube on the Valvoline pump that can be trimmed for length. Just attach it to the pump, trim the lengthuntil the top of the pump touches the top of the bottle, and hold it in place with one hand, and pump with the other.
Post Title: Re: (Tim Birney)Posted by: imhondude at 12:35 PM 2-5-2009
Quote, originally posted by Tim Birney »
Normally the fluid is gravity fed (think of an IV setup as seen in Hospitals).The pump in this write-up is pricey, so I went to Murray's Auto and purchased a $6.50 Valvoline hand pump.The threads on this pump don't work on the DSG bottles, but it doesn't matter.There is an extension tube on the Valvoline pump that can be trimmed for length. Just attach it to the pump,trim the length until the top of the pump touches the top of the bottle, and hold it in place with one hand, andpump with the other.
Is this like a gear lube pump for filling differentials?
I bought the ATF 106 adapter and was thinking about using a bug sprayer to pump in the fluid, but I guess a gear lube pump
would work well.
Post Title: Posted by: nickg at 1:37 PM 2-5-2009
so you are letting the car run after removing the adapter(while letting the excess to drain?
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