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EMS Today: Emerging Issues

Energy & Environmental Division

National Conference

San Antonio, Texas

September 20, 2005

Agenda

• Auditor Competence for OHSMS –Possible revision to QE 19011S-2004

• IAF/ISO Task Force on Auditor Competence

–IAF Task Force on Guidance for Certification and Accreditation Audits

–ISO/CASCO requirements for Certification and Accreditation Audits

Agenda contd.

• IAF Task Force on Auditing Regulatory Compliance

–Scope of task vs. current status–Issues of concern–Recommendations from U.S. TAG 207

Auditor Competence for OHSMS

• Several OHSMS standards exist:–ANSI Z10-2005–BS 8800

• BSI document OHSAS 18001 used as standard.

• More than 11,000 certificates issued world wide.


• No criteria for OHMS audits exist.

• No auditor competence criteria exists.

• How “good” are the audits?–No one knows.–No process, no comparability, no

confidence.


• Need for criteria for auditor competence criteria exists.

• Possible solution:–Revise ANSI/ASQ QE 19011S-2004.–Add knowledge, skills, & experience

unique to OHSMS.–Guidance would be independent of

OHMS standard.


• Approach:–Propose New Work Item for ANSI Z1

Committee.–Revision governed by EMSC and QMSC.–Focus on auditing process.–Form Joint Task Group with OHMS

experts included.–Revision could be completed in 12-15

months.

IAF/ISO Task Force on Auditor Competence

• Members included ISO/CASCO, TC 176, TC 207, and IAF

• Scope:–Define competence issue–How should issue be addressed–Recommend approach to ISO/ILAC/IAF

Joint Coordination Group

• Needed to complete by June 2005.


• Results:

– Revised interpretation of competence in ISO 19011:2002.• Competence of individual auditor• Specific competencies needed for a particular audit team• Management of auditor competence by CB and AB

managers

– Acknowledged early U.S. concerns on competence being based on type of audit program.

– Accepted key elements of U.S. Supplement to ISO 19011.

– Proposed new IAF Guidance on Applying ISO 19011:2002 to Certification and Accreditation Audits


• Results contd.:

– IAF Task Force is continuing development of draft guidance with TC 176 and TC 207 participation.

– CASCO has revised ISO 17021 to authorize use of the new IAF Guidance for CB audits as a requirement.

– CASCO will need to amend ISO 17011 to authorize use of the new IAF Guidance for AB audits as a requirement.

IAF Task Force on Guidance on Applying ISO 19011

• Modify ISO 19011:2002 to provide explicit guidance on Certification and Accreditation auditing.– Use verbatim ISO text when applicable– Add new guidance to clarify for CB and AB

audits.– Will include some text from U.S. Supplement to

ISO 19011 (ANSI/ISO/ASQ QE 19011S-2004).

• Draft should be presented to IAF this fall.

IAF Task Force on Auditing Regulatory Compliance

• Background:– IAF Task Force formed in November 2003.– Membership included regulators and national

conformity assessment experts, including one representative from TC 207.

• Conceived as 1-3 page guide to auditors on relationship between regulatory compliance and ISO 14001.

• Document has grown in size and changed in scope.


• Weaknesses in Current Draft:– Does not clearly define “compliance.”– Deviates from original scope.– Appears to add requirements to ISO 14001.– Multiple interpretations of “regulatory

compliance” internationally.– No input solicited from Industry or Registrars.– Appears to expect auditors to be expert in

regulations.– Has not considered potential liability issues.


• Current 2nd draft was discussed with IAF Technical Committee last week in Auckland, New Zealand.

• U.S. TAG 207 suggested that Task Force:– Start over with original scope– Include input from regulated community– Include input from Registrars


• IAF Technical Committee determined that:– Work on the document is suspended

indefinitely.– Flaws in process and document raised

major questions about its usefulness.– Lack of user input was a key deficiency.


• IAF could resume this project in the future.

• TAG 207 hopes that it will remain closed.

QuestionsThank you!

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