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Orange County LDA #0123, Exp. 4/12 714.680.3222 O n Saturday, September 24th, the protests resumed in front of the Fullerton Police Department despite the OCDA’s charge against officers Manny Ramos and Jay Cicinelli regarding the death of Kelly Thomas. Kelly’s father, Ron Thomas, has stated that the protests have two remaining goals. In the short run, Kelly’s Army is seeking to have the other four officers involved in the case to be fired. The long term goal is to have those involved officers brought up on charges as well. According to CNN, Many Ramos plead not guilty to one count of 2nd degree murder and another felony count of involuntary manslaughter during his arraignment on Monday the 26th. Judge Erick L. Larsh chose to deny the request to decrease bail from one million dollars. Ramos will have a pre-trial hearing on November 4th. V ideo taping an officer might make you their subject of interest, but a petition is currently available on whitehouse.gov that will, “Require all police forces which receive fed- eral aid to mandate recording of audio and video of all police actions. [In addition to] recording all interac- tions with the public, police forces must also readily and without re- sistance provide recordings upon request”. The petition will need 5,000 votes to pass by October 27th. It had 281 signatures by early September 29th. http://bit.ly/plb67V LEGAL DOCUMENT ASSISTANCE Volume 2, Number 22 TWITTER - FULLERTONIAN.COM - FACEBOOK September 29 th , 2011 The Fullertonian is a trademark of Tonian Publishing LLC. Traffic Delays On State College Special Council Meeting Discusses Harassment A Federal Petition Might Change Surveillance of Law Enforcement PÄS Presents: “FEAST” Are Protests Near An End? by Alex Stouffer by Alex Stouffer Divorce Support Modifications Restraining Orders Real Estates Matters Will & Trusts Power of Attorney Eviction Judgement Enforcement Small Claims to $7,500 Incorporation LLC Partnership Agreements Name Change OPINION: Citizens Calling For The OC Sheriff To Take Over Common Ground: Crossing the Aisles By Mac Rothbard By Mark Stouffer k D uring last Tuesday’s city council meeting there were people in the crowd who seemed to think that it was a good idea to have the Orange County Sheriff’s Department take over the duties of Fullerton Police. The claim is that the Fullerton Police department is beyond repair, and that bringing in another agency is the only way that citizens will regain trust with the police. But the OC Sheriff’s have their own problems with police cor- ruption (web search Mike Carona). The consolidation of authority won’t improve the living standards of people who live locally. The important thing is that the rules are changed to give more accountability to the customer, the tax payers. These rules range from interac- tions on patrol and the role played by public information officers. Having a police force limited to the town does not mean that the results will always be perfect, but smaller, nearer police agencies are easier to oversee. Last week we commented on the road ahead from the Kelly Thomas case and it’s aftermath. We said that the issue behind this case was the right that Kelly Thomas was denied, that it was the most basic of rights, the right to life. We said it was the most basic right because it could not be exchanged for any other right. This is the right that Tony Rackauckas was referring to when he said “…citizens have a right to self-defense, even against the police…”. Or, in the immortal words of The Clash, “You have the right not to be killed.” There are still some people who would disagree. We heard reports from train passengers of a man striding around the memorial site at the buss station saying, “So this is what happens when you break into cars, huh?” We should point out that there has not been any evidence release indicating that Kelly Thomas broke into a car. Also, the death penalty is not a sentence for breaking into cars or resisting arrest. So it is probably the fundamental nature of the right involved in the Kelly Thomas case, and other simi- lar cases, that is causing a surpris- ing trend. The left side of the po- litical spectrum and the right side are coming together and agreeing on something. This is surprising because elsewhere in political dis- course the two political wings are spreading farther apart. The divi- sion between those who want freer markets and those who want more government control is getting so strident that the phrase “class war- fare” has been openly discussed on the nightly news. P ÄS Gallery wel- comes Robots For Hire in “FEAST,” A showcase of an art collection depicting the darker side of LA-based in- ternational artist Max Neutra. Robots For Hire has curated a show that will surely gross you out, fill you with dread, and make you stare with morbid curiosity. Come with a big appetite for the FEAST! Monsters. Severed zombie heads. Man-machines. These are just a few of the sights PÄS Gallery has in store for you this October. Opening on Friday, October 7th from 6-10 PM during the Downtown Fullerton Art Walk. Every Friday night from 7-10 PM in October PÄS will have free live music from local bands. October 7th: Opening Reception | Fullerton Art Walk October 14th: i hate you just kidding w/ Nicole Vaughn, and George Bernal & Keila Morris October 21st: Robert Jon and the Wreck w/ Honeypie October 28th: The Colourist w/ Kacie Yoshida A portion of art sales will benefit Orange County Children’s Therapeutic Arts Center. (http://www.occtac.org/) For more information and directions, visit www.2PAS.org F ullerton residents who regularly travel north State College Boulevard may wish to consider using alternate routes due to a major road reconstruction project sponsored by the City of Brea. The work, which got under way this week, is on State College from the Fullerton-Brea border near Lark Ellen Drive in Fullerton north to Birch Street in Brea. The majority of the work will be in Brea, with the exception of a short length in Fullerton between Lark Ellen and Elm Street in Brea. Motorists can expect traffic lane reductions and delays. A special city council meeting has been held Thursday morning, September 29th. Discussions include a case in- volving sexual harassment charges against Fullerton police officer Albert Rincon. The meeting opened for public comments but recessed before entering closed session. Case discussion followed: Hanson et al v. City of Fullerton Bode and Natasi v. City of Fullerton, et al

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Orange County LDA #0123, Exp. 4/12

714.680.3222

On Saturday, September 24th, the protests resumed in front of the Fullerton Police

Department despite the OCDA’s charge against officers Manny Ramos and Jay Cicinelli regarding the death of Kelly Thomas. Kelly’s father, Ron Thomas, has stated that the protests have two remaining goals. In the short run, Kelly’s Army is seeking to have the other four officers involved in the case to be fired. The long term goal is to have those involved officers brought up on charges as well.

According to CNN, Many Ramos plead not guilty to one count of 2nd degree murder and another felony count of involuntary manslaughter during his arraignment on Monday

the 26th. Judge Erick L. Larsh chose to deny the request to decrease bail from one million dollars. Ramos will have a pre-trial hearing on November 4th.

Video taping an officer might make you their subject of interest, but a

petition is currently available on whitehouse.gov that will, “Require all police forces which receive fed-eral aid to mandate recording of audio and video of all police actions. [In addition to] recording all interac-

tions with the public, police forces must also readily and without re-sistance provide recordings upon request”.

The petition will need 5,000 votes to pass by October 27th. It had 281 signatures by early September 29th.

http://bit.ly/plb67V

LegaL Document assistance

Volume 2, Number 22 TwiTTer - FullerTonian.com - Facebook September 29th, 2011

the Fullertonian is a trademark of Tonian Publishing LLC.

Traffic Delays On State College

Special Council Meeting Discusses Harassment A Federal Petition Might Change

Surveillance of Law Enforcement

PÄS Presents: “FEAST”Are Protests Near An End?by Alex Stouffer

by Alex Stouffer

DivorceSupport ModificationsRestraining OrdersReal Estates MattersWill & TrustsPower of AttorneyEviction

Judgement EnforcementSmall Claims to $7,500IncorporationLLCPartnershipAgreementsName Change

OPINION: Citizens Calling For The OC Sheriff To Take Over

Common Ground: Crossing the Aisles

By Mac Rothbard

By Mark Stouffer

Continued on back

During last Tuesday’s city council meeting there were people in the crowd who

seemed to think that it was a good idea to have the Orange County Sheriff’s Department take over the duties of Fullerton Police.

The claim is that the Fullerton Police department is beyond repair, and that bringing in another agency is the only way that citizens will regain trust with the police. But the OC Sheriff’s have their own problems with police cor-ruption (web search Mike Carona).

The consolidation of authority won’t improve the living standards of people who live locally. The important thing is that the rules are changed to give more accountability to the customer, the tax payers. These rules range from interac-tions on patrol and the role played by public information officers.

Having a police force limited to the town does not mean that the results will always be perfect, but smaller, nearer police agencies are easier to oversee.

Last week we commented on the road ahead from the Kelly Thomas case and it’s aftermath. We said that the issue behind this case was the right that Kelly Thomas was denied, that it was the most basic of rights, the right to life. We said it was the most basic right because it could not be exchanged for any other right.

This is the right that Tony Rackauckas was referring to when he said “…citizens have a right to self-defense, even against the police…”. Or, in the immortal words of The Clash, “You have the right not to be killed.”

There are still some people who would disagree. We heard reports from train passengers of a man striding around the memorial site at the buss station saying, “So this is what happens when you break

into cars, huh?” We should point out that there has not been any evidence release indicating that Kelly Thomas broke into a car. Also, the death penalty is not a sentence for breaking into cars or resisting arrest.

So it is probably the fundamental nature of the right involved in the Kelly Thomas case, and other simi-lar cases, that is causing a surpris-ing trend. The left side of the po-litical spectrum and the right side are coming together and agreeing on something. This is surprising because elsewhere in political dis-course the two political wings are spreading farther apart. The divi-sion between those who want freer markets and those who want more government control is getting so strident that the phrase “class war-fare” has been openly discussed on the nightly news.

PÄS Gallery wel-comes Robots For Hire in

“FEAST,” A showcase of an art collection depicting the darker side of LA-based in-ternational artist Max Neutra.

Robots For Hire has curated a show that will surely gross you out, fill you with dread, and make you stare with morbid curiosity. Come with a big appetite for the FEAST! Monsters. Severed zombie heads. Man-machines. These are just a few of the sights PÄS Gallery has in store for you this October. Opening on Friday, October 7th from 6-10 PM during the Downtown Fullerton Art Walk.

Every Friday night from 7-10 PM in October PÄS will have free live music from local bands.

October 7th: Opening Reception | Fullerton Art Walk

October 14th: i hate you just kidding w/ Nicole Vaughn, and George Bernal & Keila Morris

October 21st: Robert Jon and the Wreck w/ Honeypie

October 28th: The Colourist w/ Kacie Yoshida

A portion of art sales will benefit Orange County Children’s Therapeutic Arts Center. (http://www.occtac.org/)

For more information and directions, visit www.2PAS.org

Fullerton residents who regularly travel north State College Boulevard may wish to consider using alternate routes

due to a major road reconstruction project sponsored by the City of Brea.

The work, which got under way this week, is on State College from the Fullerton-Brea border near Lark Ellen Drive in Fullerton north to Birch Street in Brea.

The majority of the work will be in Brea, with the exception of a short length in Fullerton between Lark Ellen and Elm Street in Brea. Motorists can expect traffic lane reductions and delays.

A special city council meeting has been held Thursday morning, September 29th. Discussions include a case in-

volving sexual harassment charges against Fullerton police officer Albert Rincon.

The meeting opened for public comments but recessed before entering closed session.

Case discussion followed:Hanson et al v. City of Fullerton Bode and Natasi v. City of Fullerton, et al

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Fullerton Community Bank Closing For Opus

Classifeds: Free For Six Months

Fullerton Men Arrested in Texas For Alleged Money Launderingby Mark Stouffer

by Alex Stouffer

Common Ground (Cont’d)

If you decide to drive cross coun-try and go through Texas any time soon, do NOT do it with $79,480

stuffed into your car’s muffler. That is what 31 year old Fullerton resident Pedro Diaz has been charged with doing on Saturday.

Carson County Department of Public Safety Trooper pulled Mr. Diaz over for an unspecified violation. When the trooper asked to search Mr. Diaz’s car he consented and the search eventually revealed the cash in the muffler.

It is unclear why the trooper pulled Mr. Diaz over, and why he decided to look inside the muffler.

The local bank that started on July 9, 1927 was bought by Irvine based Opus banks from

its parent company RMG Capital Corp. this June. The bank’s branches will close later this year and become branches for Opus Bank in 2012 ac-cording to Orange County Business Journal.

Pictures have just been added to the classified page as well as a Facebook button that will

allow you to post to your wall. During the next six months all users will have full access at no charge.

But here in Fullerton, and in select other places, the right and left sides of politics have been talking to each other, civilly. It may have started with Steven Baxter’s open letter on FullertonsFuture.org, but soon we heard Bruce Whitaker call-ing for cross-isle discourse.

Similarly but elsewhere we have seen left-wing trailblazer Ralph Nader praising Sarah Palin and talking to Ron Paul.

At a recent Artwalk one patron

summed it all up nicely when she heard two people talking about Kelly Thomas and rights she said, “I think I know what you mean. Because when I saw that picture I just instantly knew it was wrong.”

Maybe we can discard these arti-ficial sideswe’vedrawnand focuson what is more important in life. Maybe we can meet on Common Ground.

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