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  • 7/23/2019 Engineering Vol 72 1901-10-25

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    OcT 25, rgor.]

    E N G I N E E R I N

    G.

    SLIP\VAY

    AT LAS

    PALMAS, GRAND CANARY.

    (

    Fo D

    esc1 i

    ption

    see

    Page

    679 .)

    -

    TH E INSI'lTUTION OF MECHAN I CAL

    ENGINEERS .

    T

    H

    first

    genera

    l m

    ee t

    ing of t

    hi

    s Institution for

    th e

    present

    season was he

    ld at

    the Inst

    ituti

    on

    H ouse,

    St?re

    y

    's Gate

    ,

    on Friday eve

    nin

    g,

    October 18,

    t

    he

    .

    President,

    Mr.

    W. H.

    M

    aw

    , occu

    pyi

    ng the

    chair.

    After

    the us

    ual formal bu

    s

    ine

    ss h

    ad

    been

    disp

    osed of, the list of

    candidates

    who

    had jus

    t been

    elected was

    read

    ou t. The

    Pr

    esident annou

    nc

    ed t hat

    the number

    of

    additions

    to

    t he roll of the

    In

    s

    titution

    durin

    g the

    pr ese

    n t

    year amounted to

    449.

    This

    was ve

    ry considerably

    above

    t he record for

    an

    y

    previous ye

    ar. Mr. Maw thought

    that t

    he

    fact

    u l ~ be exceeding

    ly grat

    ifying

    to

    memhers, as

    sho

    wm

    g

    the

    popularity

    an

    d

    continued prosperity of

    the

    Inst

    i t

    ut i

    on.

    GA s-ENGIN

    E R ESEARCH.

    Th

    e chief business of the

    meet

    ing was the

    read

    in

    g a

    nd di

    scu

    ss

    ion

    of

    t

    he

    Sec

    on

    d

    Report to

    t

    he

    Gas

    Engine Research

    Co

    mmittee,

    which bad

    be

    en pre

    pared by

    Professor F. W. Bu r

    s

    tall,

    of

    Birmingham.

    o

    ur

    e r s

    w i l ~

    r

    ememher, the first

    r epor t

    of

    th1s

    Committee

    , whiCh

    was

    read and

    disc

    us

    se

    d on

    F e

    bru

    a

    ry 11

    a

    nd

    April

    27 , 1898,*

    gave an

    acco

    un

    t

    of

    the

    appara

    tus and engine

    which

    were

    u

    se

    d for

    the

    experiment s, a

    nd

    of a small

    numb

    er

    of

    prelimin

    ary experiments

    made in o

    rder to pave the

    w

    ay

    for a

    mo

    re

    extende

    d a

    nd

    complete

    series.

    The

    present

    r

    epo

    r t we comme

    nce

    to

    print

    in full

    ?n

    page

    ~ 9 2

    of _his i

    ssue

    .

    The President, in open

    mg the

    disc

    ussion, remark ed that t

    he

    pap

    er

    which

    t

    hey

    had j u

    st

    h

    eard

    r

    ep

    r

    esente

    d

    an

    e

    norm

    ous

    amount of conscien t io

    us

    wo

    rk

    on the part of the

    auth

    or

    .

    Not

    o

    nly

    had

    Pr

    o

    fe

    ssor B

    urstall

    c

    ar ried

    o

    ut

    with

    great

    care a

    large number

    of

    exper

    iments ,

    but

    he

    had h

    ad to

    devi

    se

    t he

    app

    lianc

    es whi

    ch

    render

    ed

    those

    exper

    ime

    nts capab

    le

    of

    affording

    u

    se

    ful d

    at a

    .

    n designing and constructing the

    experimental

    apparatus

    which

    he

    had employed,

    Professor Burstall

    had

    di

    s

    played

    an

    or

    ig

    inality

    a

    nd

    an

    appreciat

    ion

    of the impo

    rtanc

    e of po

    ints of

    de

    tail

    which

    wer

    e wor t

    hy

    of

    a

    ll

    {>raise.

    Th

    e

    pa

    per

    ap

    p

    eare

    d

    to him (the President) to

    open o

    ut two

    distinct

    lin es

    for discussi

    on

    , namely, fir

    st,

    a

    cri

    t i

    cism of

    the methods and

    devices e

    mployed in

    t

    hese expe

    ri men

    ta

    l

    in vest

    i

    ga t

    ion

    s;

    and, seco

    ndly, an

    exami

    na t

    ion

    of

    the resu lts which those investiga

    tions disclosed.

    He

    h

    oped

    th

    at

    t hey wo

    ul

    d h

    ave

    a

    discussi

    on

    which wo

    uld

    do justice

    to

    b

    ot

    h th

    ese

    bran

    ches

    of

    the

    subj ec

    t.

    Th

    e fir

    st

    -n

    a

    med br

    a

    nch

    was one of

    much import

    ance, becau

    se

    it w

    as

    hoped

    53

    ; . ENGUi EERING, vol. lxv., pages 197, 35 1, 413,

    and

    '

    that t he experim

    ents

    defcl'ibed in

    the present

    pap

    er wou

    ld

    on

    ly

    fo

    rm the commencement

    of a

    l

    ong se

    ries,

    and

    it was very des

    irable

    that

    in an

    extended

    investigation

    of this

    kind

    the modes of

    procedure

    sho

    uld

    be

    very

    carefully consi

    de

    red so

    th

    at

    they

    might

    m

    ake

    no false

    step

    s.

    Before' he

    disc

    ussi

    on ope

    ned, he would a

    sk

    t hem

    to

    accord

    the

    author a hear

    ty vote of thanks for

    t

    he

    great t

    rouble

    he

    had ta

    k

    en with

    the subj

    ec t

    , a

    nd he

    would

    then ask

    Profe

    ssor

    Burstall

    to

    mak

    e a few

    add

    iti

    ona

    l

    re

    marks

    on ce

    rtain

    special

    points

    n

    ot

    d

    ea

    l t with

    in

    t

    he

    paper

    wh ch mig

    ht aid in rendering

    the s

    ubsequen

    t

    discuss

    ion

    more usef ul.

    n

    r

    eply to the Pr

    es i

    dent's request, Pr

    ofe ss

    or

    Burstall

    sa

    id that, in

    additi

    on to

    the facts

    put

    fo

    rw

    a

    rd in the

    rep

    or t ,

    the

    ex

    periments

    bad

    reyealed so

    me matt

    e

    rs of deta

    il which were

    imporhant

    from a

    practical point

    of view.

    The

    first

    of these

    r el

    at e

    d

    to igni

    t ion. For

    quite

    small engin

    es

    the

    hot tube

    was most u

    se

    ful;

    but

    f

    or la r

    ger

    powers

    elec

    trical

    ig

    niti

    on offered

    great advantages.

    With

    the

    h

    ot tube

    th

    ere

    mig

    ht

    be some

    delay

    ; but with electricity it

    wa

    s

    hardly

    possi

    ble

    t o

    suppose

    t here wo

    uld

    be

    r

    etardati

    on, which would

    be

    a

    se

    ri ous mat ter with

    eng

    ines

    d

    eve

    l

    op

    ing

    high

    powers.

    He tr

    u

    ste

    d

    that

    Engli

    sh

    maker

    s wo

    uld

    follow Cont

    inental

    practice in

    this re

    spect, and

    adopt

    electrical igni

    tion

    f

    or

    engines developing over

    60

    hor

    se-power.

    He wo

    uld dr

    a w

    attention to

    Table VII.

    in

    the

    App

    e

    ndi

    x

    to the report,

    which

    had

    b

    ee

    n

    prepared

    to

    show

    the

    effect

    of the

    cha

    nge in

    co

    mpr

    ession ;

    the

    relation bet ween s

    uction temperature

    and t

    he ratio

    of air

    to

    gas , as shown

    by diagrams

    accompa

    nying the

    pape r

    ,

    wer

    e also

    of in t

    e

    re

    st . These were

    the first

    experim

    e

    nt

    s which

    had been mad

    e

    to

    d

    etermine

    t

    he

    s

    ucti

    on

    temperature.

    H e

    considered

    that in

    de t

    er

    mining the h

    eat

    balance

    it

    was advisable

    to have

    an 0pen

    cycle.

    Many,

    perhap

    s, wo

    uld

    not

    agree

    with

    him

    in

    th i

    s

    re

    sp

    ect

    .,

    and

    might

    think there

    sho

    uld be

    a closed cycle.

    Th

    e

    temperature

    te

    st

    wo

    uld

    show

    what the

    indi

    cato

    r would not

    reve

    al.

    The

    combustion appea

    red to

    be

    complete

    when t

    he

    maximum

    te

    mperatur

    e

    was

    r eache

    d,

    the charge

    appearing to beh

    ave

    durin

    g

    expansion as

    a

    perfect

    gas . He had always considered

    the temperature of

    the whole c

    har

    ge in the cylinder

    to

    be un

    ifo

    rm, and

    the result

    s o

    bt

    a

    in

    ed , showing

    mate

    ri

    al diff

    ere

    nces

    of

    tempera

    t

    ur

    e

    in

    differe

    nt parts of

    the

    vo

    lume,

    came

    so

    mewh

    at

    as a

    surprise.

    I t sho

    uld be

    r

    eme

    mb

    er

    ed, however, that the

    cylinder

    was not

    a s

    ymmetric

    al one.

    l ie prop

    osed

    to

    go

    in

    to

    t

    his

    m

    atte

    r at a

    future time, and

    wo

    uld

    hope

    to

    put

    the

    re

    sults

    of

    his

    investigation

    s before the In stitut ion.

    Dr. Kennedy said

    that as

    Chairman

    of

    the

    Gas-

    Engine Research Committee he had

    occupied an

    easy and plea

    sant

    position, h

    aving

    simply

    to

    sit

    by

    and

    give advice,

    bu

    t

    not

    being r

    equired

    to

    do any

    work.

    The plan of

    ope

    ra

    t ions

    had

    been

    to

    e

    n

    dea vour fir

    st

    to

    find

    out

    t

    he

    c

    ondit

    i

    ons

    of work

    ing

    of gas

    eng

    ines,

    and then

    to

    attempt to apply the

    in

    vest

    igations

    to

    ma

    kin

    g

    impr

    ovemen

    ts

    .

    So

    far, t hey

    h

    ad

    on

    ly pr

    oceeded

    with the

    first

    part

    of t

    heir

    pro

    g

    ramme;

    but though

    the

    work was not co

    mpleted,

    he thought they had alrea

    dy

    gone

    further

    in

    inv

    es

    higatin g the ex

    act

    working conditions of gas engines

    than

    had

    been done on

    any

    previous occasion. The

    app

    lication of the

    inf

    o

    rmatio

    n

    obtained

    to pract

    ical

    work was y

    et

    to come.

    One

    of

    th

    e

    things

    they

    WE re

    mo

    st

    anx

    ious

    to do

    was

    to

    test

    an

    eng

    ine

    much

    nearer

    to practice in rega

    rd to large

    sizes

    than had

    yet

    been poss

    ib l

    e.

    He

    was glad

    to sa

    y

    an

    engine of t

    hi

    s

    kind

    would

    be

    sh

    or t

    ly

    at the

    dtsp?

    sa

    l

    of

    the

    Oo mmittee

    .

    The Birmingham

    Uni

    versity were

    about to

    acq ui

    re

    a gas e

    ngine

    of 160

    h o r s e p o ~ v e r an

    d this would have a closer bea

    ring

    pract

    iC

    al work than the 5 h

    orse

    -power engine

    hither

    to

    use

    d.

    There

    h

    ad

    been

    at

    t

    he

    di

    sc

    ussion of a

    fo

    rm

    er r

    eport

    a good d

    ea

    l of criticism, which he could

    not

    he

    lp

    describing

    as cheap, on

    the sma

    ll

    size of

    the

    eng

    ine f

    ormerlv

    used. The

    remark

    s were

    obvious, a

    nd ne

    ed not have

    been

    amplified in t

    he

    man

    ner

    they

    were.

    He

    would o

    nly po

    int o

    ut

    that

    hose who should

    ha

    ve

    been

    most interested

    in

    t

    he

    work the

    O o m m ~ t t e e

    a

    nd

    who would

    pr

    ofit m

    ost

    by_ theu

    labo

    ur

    s, n

    ot

    come fo

    rw

    a

    rd

    with he

    lp

    in

    thiS respect. W1th the small e

    ngine

    , the experi

    men

    ts

    w

    ere

    n o

    ne the

    less

    tr

    ue

    and

    accur

    ate

    on

    a . c c o of

    the

    size

    of

    t

    he

    machine

    tested

    . n

    any

    case, 1t was f

    or tunat

    e

    that th

    e

    Committee

    wo

    uld be

    able to ca

    rry

    out

    their

    inv

    es t

    igat i

    ons in

    fu t

    ure

    on a

    la r

    ger scale. Dl'.

    Ke nn

    e

    dy

    had one fau

    lt

    to

    find

    with the report., and he wo

    uld get

    t h

    at

    over first.

    The auth

    or

    stated that All vo

    lum

    es, both air

    and ~ a s

    have

    been

    reduced

    to

    sta.nd

    a

    t d

    co

    nditions;

    t hat 1s, a temperature of 16 deg. Cent.

    and

    a

    pres

    s

    :lr

    e 760

    m i l l i ~ e t r e s

    of

    mercury

    ; res

    ults

    a

    re

    g

    iven

    1n t

    he

    metr1c system,

    but

    f

    or

    convenience

    of co

    mpar

    ison a few leading figures have

    been

    given

    in

    the

    English units also.

    H e thought

    that if

    t

    he

    author

    had rev

    ersed

    his procedure, and had

    sai

    d

    th

    at

    he gave a few le

    ading

    fig

    ures

    in

    the

    met ric

    system f

    or the

    he

    lp

    of a few

    stud

    ents

    at tech

    nical

    and had

    u

    sed

    in

    stea

    d

    pounds

    per

    sq

    ua

    re

    Inch for

    the bulk

    of his

    result

    s, it wo

    uld

    been

    to

    t he

    advant

    age

    of

    th

    e m

    ajo

    rity

    of

    hi

    s

    readers. Those

    who w

    ere

    in

    th

    e

    habit

    of

    using the ordinary unitt:J

    of

    pounds and in ch

    es

    found a good deal of difficulty

    in tra

    nspos

    ing

    them

    to

    metrical

    units. The author

    h

    ad been

    en

    deavo

    uring

    to

    get

    two

    things-the

    complete

    ana

    ly

    tical

    history

    of the gas

    durin

    g

    the

    cycle,

    and

    a com

    plete

    temperature of

    histo

    ry also.

    The

    lat ter was

    only complete as

    far

    as

    the

    Callender t

    herm

    om

    eter,

    which was a deli

    ca t

    e

    in

    st r

    um

    ent, would allow them

    to

    go.

    In

    o

    rder to

    u

    se

    t

    hi

    s thermom

    eter

    t

    he

    en

    gine had to

    be running slowly, and o

    nly

    ex

    pl

    oding once

    in

    s

    ix

    times

    or

    s

    o; as

    if

    fa

    st run

    nin

    g were

    tried,

    it would smash t

    he

    in

    strum

    e

    nt.

    I t was with

    the

    slow experiments only,

    th

    e

    refore

    ,

    that the

    temperature

    s were

    taken,

    a

    nd in others

    they were

    arri

    ved

    at

    by calculation. H e wo

    uld

    ask

    what

    was

    meant by

    su

    ct

    ion

    temperature.

    Did

    it me

    an th

    e te

    mp

    e

    rature

    of

    the

    charge

    when

    the

    cylinder was completely full 1

    [Professor

    Bur

    st a

    ll

    assented.] The temperatures in

    trials

    A, B,

    C,

    and

    D we

    re

    calculated

    on suction tempe

    r

    atu

    res. On

    tr

    ials

    X, Y,

    and

    Z the

    co

    rr espondin

    g

    temperatures,

    corr

    espondin

    g

    ly

    calculated,

    did

    not agree with

    the

    m

    easur

    ed temperatures,

    and

    that

    led to the

    experi

    ments on

    non

    unif

    o

    rm ity

    of t

    emperature in the

    b

    urnin

    g mass. I t was

    to be

    hoped that a met

    hod

    of meas

    uring

    a

    true mean temperature

    would

    be

    fo

    und in the future. In

    connection with

    the

    state

    men

    t

    made

    t hat in th e gas

    engine

    only a

    bout

    one

    third of

    t

    he

    temperature

    range

    was used, while

    in

    t

    he

    steam e

    ngine

    three

    -q

    uarters of

    the range

    was

    available,

    he would

    point out that in

    any

    he

    at

    eng

    in

    e,

    wh

    ere

    the theoretical

    effici

    enc

    y w

    as high,

    t here was always gr

    eate

    r difficulty

    in

    reac

    hing

    a c o m ~

    paratively

    good r

    esult than in

    cases

    wher

    e t

    he

    t heoretical efficiency was low.

    In

    the gas eng

    ine,

    the

    r efore, which had a high theo

    retic

    al effi

    ci

    ency,

    it was mo

    re diffic ult to rea

    ch

    this

    efficiency

    than

    in

    the

    stea

    m eng

    ine. The

    a

    uthor had

    r eferred

    to

    t

    he tr

    o

    uble arising fr

    om moi

    st

    ure

    with

    w

    et asbestos

    ,

    which wo

    uld destroy insulati

    on.

    The speaker had

    u

    se

    d

    the

    Ca.llender thermometer

    with n:ost

    satisfac

    tory

    r

    esul t

    s for o

    btaining

    s

    team temperatures

    ;

    but

    it was fo

    und

    necessary to pr

    ote

    ct it by a t

    hin metal

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    envelope.

    T h ~ s

    necessarily would give a s

    light

    lag,

    but not

    suffictent to be of importance in taking

    steam

    temperatures.

    In taking

    the temperatures

    of the charge, however, of a gas engine as used

    by

    the author

    the

    retardation would be of

    import

    ance,

    and

    the metal shield would therefore be

    inadmissible.

    He

    would ask the author if he

    thought

    that

    the

    difference

    in

    temperature

    in

    the explosive charge was due to

    the

    rapid suc

    cession of explosions. This was a very important

    matter. Dr. made, 13 years ago, a

    good many expertments 1n gas engines.

    In

    those

    days the present appliances did

    not

    exist, and the

    Callender thermome

    te

    r

    had

    not

    t

    hen

    been intro

    duced. He had, however, arrived

    at

    the tempera

    tures by means of calculation, and it was with

    considerable satisfaction

    that he

    compared

    the

    results he

    then

    obtained on theoretical grounds

    with those

    that

    had been arrived at now by

    p r ~ c t i c e , for he found that they aareed very

    well. Some of

    the

    experiments he made

    in

    1888

    (Society of

    Arts

    Trials) were made upon a Crossley

    engine, and he found that comparing these results

    with the nearest corresponding results of the

    author they agreed very closely. Particulars of

    some of these experiments were given by the

    speaker

    . He had formerly thoug

    ht

    that combus

    tion

    was

    not

    always complete

    at

    the end of the

    stroke; but the full informati

    on

    conveyed

    by

    the

    Committee's

    report

    throws

    further light

    on this

    matter

    and the

    assumption must be rectified. In

    regard to

    the

    effdct of change of compression, he

    thought

    conclusions

    must

    n

    ot

    be

    drawn

    too ha

    st

    ily.

    Substituting other sets of tria]s for the particular

    set chosen

    in

    Appendix VII. they showed different

    results, though no doubt equally correct. Details

    in connection with this matter were also given by

    the speaker. There might, he said, be a special

    explanation of the fact, but he thought that all

    circumstances should be

    taken into

    account. The

    figures were, however, so clearly given

    that

    anyone

    could make the comparison for himself.

    The President

    here said

    that

    it would

    be

    convenient

    i

    Mr. Bryan

    Donkin would at this point give some

    account of the Mathot continuous-pressure recorder,

    examples of which w ~ r e shown at the meeting.

    Mr. Bryan Donkin said that before proceeding

    to speak of

    the

    continuous-pressure recorder, he

    ;vould like to point out, with regard to

    the

    work of

    the Committee and the scale on which the experi

    ments had

    been

    made, that what was true of a

    small engine

    might

    be used

    in

    deducing

    th

    e action

    of the

    larger

    motors. They hoped, however, in the

    fu t

    ure

    to have a fair-sized engine

    at

    their disposal.

    The advantage of compression was one of the

    chief points

    in the

    paper, and

    in

    regard

    to

    gas

    engine trials, misfires should be cuefully avoided,

    as they caused changes in

    the

    conditions. The

    temperatures of the different parts of the charge

    after

    the

    explosion was the main and most interest

    ing part of

    the

    report. The maximum was about

    2000 deg. Cent. That was a very high temperature,

    and

    it

    was wonderful how well gas engines stood it.

    The centre of the gas in the cylinders was found to

    be hotter by some 200 deg.

    Cent

    . than the

    part

    near

    the wall. They m remember, however, that that

    was

    not

    ascertained on full load,

    but

    only when

    working very

    light. I t is hoped

    that

    some improve

    ment will

    be

    made

    in

    this respect, and that it would

    be

    possible at some future time to give the tempera

    ture

    records

    at

    half

    load,

    or

    even more.

    The

    platinum

    wire used was only about one-hundredth of a milli

    metre thick. He would like to have seen attached

    to

    the

    paper a few complete temperature diagrams

    for

    the

    whole cycle. Those shown gave only the tem

    peratures on the expansion curves. He would also

    like to know the exact position of the thermometer

    in the clearance space. As to the e

    ntropy

    diagram,

    he was sorry that

    not

    even one had

    been

    given. It

    would be noticed

    that

    the maximum heat efficiency

    for horse-power was 23

    per

    cent. whereas formerly

    it had been 21

    per

    cent. Turning to

    Mathot

    's con

    tinuous-pressure indicator, of which ~ x a m ? l e s w ~ r e

    shown

    in the

    room,

    the

    speaker descr1bed 1ts actwn

    by

    means of several wall d i a g ~ a m s .copied from

    originals

    taken

    from. gas and o.ll engines.

    ~ e n e -

    rally,

    it

    may be satd to .cons1st. of an ordinary

    pressure indicator, the pencil of whwh.

    c ~ s

    on a con

    tinuously-moving band of paper unw1ndmg fr

    i

    m a

    drum

    and

    on a

    time

    base,

    and

    driven

    by

    a clock

    inside. In this way a

    constant

    record of all the

    pressures are

    taken

    viz , explosion, ?ompression,

    aspiration, &c., and this for few m n ~ u t e

    d

    oubt the instrument

    did not gtve more 1nformatwn

    than

    could be deduced from many ordinary indicator

    E N G I N E E R I N G.

    diagrams, but the records were shown in a very

    much more convenient form.

    Professor R.

    Threlf

    all pointed out that on

    page 23 of

    the

    report it was stated that

    the

    finest

    wire employed

    in the

    platinum resistance thermo

    meter had fused after a few explosions. Now the

    mel ting point of platinum can hardly lie below

    1700 deg. Cent.-a much hi gh

    er

    temperature than

    any recorded. It may be argued t

    hat

    t he platinum

    ~ b s o r b s carbon at

    the

    high temperature to which

    it

    IS exposed, and that thi s lowers the meltillg point;

    but against this view

    it

    is to be remembered that

    the

    absorption of ca

    rb

    on by platinum is

    not

    instan

    t a ~ e o u s ,

    nor s the :e

    ~ n y

    evidence that the melting

    pmnt of plattnum 1s,

    1n

    fact, m a ~ e r i a l l y lowered

    by

    the carbon which

    it

    may take up.

    In

    addi t i

    on

    to this,

    the

    temperatures measured were found to appear

    higher

    the

    thinner t he wire. Everything seems to

    point, therefore, to .the probability of the measured

    temperatures being too low. I t is quite evident

    that metals with higher melting points than plati

    num will have to be used. With regard to the

    calculated temperatures,

    it

    appears from the cal

    culations of Le Chatelier

    i t s

    fiir Physik.

    Chem. II. 782, 1888) that in the case of carbon

    di.oxide,

    at

    all events, the high pressure prevents

    there being any serious

    amount

    of dissociation.

    The method of calculation adopted appears there

    fore to be sound from this

    point

    of view. Return

    ing

    to

    measurements of high temperatures, Pro

    fessor Threlfall po inted

    out

    that

    the

    thermo couple,

    though electrically less sensitive than the resistance

    pyrometer, has

    the

    great advantage that it can be

    much more easily repaired ; and it may be used

    exactly as

    the

    author has used the resistance instru

    ment. To do this, all that is necessary is to close

    the circuit of the couple through a potentiometer

    by means of the rocking key, just as was done

    for the resistance instrument. In

    order

    to

    obtain sensitiveness the wire can be used in

    the form of thin strip, this being, of course, pro

    tected, except

    just

    where

    it

    is exposed to t he

    temperature in question. Mr. W. H. Steele,

    in

    a

    paper read before

    the

    Royal Society of Victoria

    in

    1893, describes some experiments

    in

    which he had

    found large electromotive forces generated in wires

    (supposed to be homogeneous) when unequally

    heated . The speaker had not had an opportunity

    of examining this effect, nor had he seen any corro

    boration of Mr. Steele's results by other workers ;

    bu t it is a matter which shou]d be considered by

    anyone using a couple of

    the

    kind described.

    With

    regard

    to

    the small size of the e xperimental engine,

    no apology was needed. In order to thoroughly

    elucidate the details of the action of a gas engine,

    it

    is important to investigate the effect of varying

    the relation of

    the

    volume of

    the

    active gases to

    the area of

    the

    cooling surfaces to which these

    gases are exposed, and this necessitates trials

    with at least two engines one large and one small.

    I t is also necessary to establish the experimental

    methods on a firm basis, and this can be done more

    cheaply and quickly in a small engine than in a

    large one. I t was to be hoped that when the ex

    periments were extended to larger engines these

    engines would be really larger, i

    e ,

    ha

    Ye lar

    ger

    cylinders ; 150 horse-power was t he size mentioned,

    and

    he hoped

    that

    this was to be got o

    ut

    of one

    cylinder.

    The

    author expressed surprise at

    the

    variable temperatures observed

    in the

    cylinder.

    The

    speaker could not see

    that

    this was a

    matter

    for surprise:

    the

    influence of the cylinder walls

    must of necessity be felt; but even setting this

    aside, there was every reason to suppose that the

    gases were in a state of violent motion during the

    explosion, anil this motion was turbulent. Conse

    quently, the pressures and temperatures would

    vary locally throughout the mass. Some very

    interest ing high - speed photographs were ob

    tained by Von Oettingen

    and

    V on

    Gernet

    (Wiedemann's Annalen, 1888) of

    the

    explosion of a

    mixture of oxygen and hydrogen

    in

    a

    tube; the

    ex

    pl

    osion being rendered luminous by

    the

    addition of

    the

    dust of copper salts. rhese photographs illus

    trated very well

    the

    complex nature of a gas explo

    sion. Referrin g to the indicator diagrams and

    the re10ark made as to the desirabili ty of obtaining

    entropy diagrams, the speaker pointed out that thi s

    would be difficult, seeing how arbitrary the selection

    of

    the temperature

    would be.

    Durin

    g the discussion on Mr. Humphrey's paper

    las tyear (Proceedingsof Mechanical Engineers, 1900,

    page 237) the speaker drew

    attention

    to the curious

    increase

    in

    the work required

    to

    pump

    the

    charges

    as the velocity of rotation of

    the

    engine increased.

    He suggested that this

    might

    be due to the gases

    becoming hotter

    in

    the

    p a s s ~ g e s

    of the admission

    valves the fa ste r the engine ran, and consequently

    having their viscosities increased. Calculating on

    this basis, he concluded that to make

    the

    e x p l a n ~ -

    tion valid, the g3ses would have to be hea ted to

    140 deg . at the higher speeds. This calculation,

    referring to a la rger engine, cannot, of course, b3

    insisted upon, but it is at least curious that the

    present trials have given a practically identical

    value. The relation of the viscous properties of

    gases to the working of the gas engine is a com

    parative ly open field, in which research could

    hardly

    fail to yield results

    of

    interest.

    At this

    point

    the

    President

    adjourned the dis

    cussion until the evening of Friday, November 1,

    when a special general meeting will be held

    to

    con

    clude it.

    DIE FORGING. No. IX.

    By J

    osEPH

    Ho: NER.

    Tm s article will deal with a few selected examples

    illustrative of the classes of work performed in the

    wagon and carriage stamping shop

    at

    Swindon. The

    large and varied volume done in this departme

    nt

    may be inferred from the account given

    in

    the

    previous article on the machines ; but its magnitude

    must

    be seen to be fully app reciated.

    The

    photo

    graph reproduced in

    the

    last article (page 470,

    Fig. 216), showing die blocks lying

    out in the

    yard,

    will supply

    an

    object-lesson

    in

    numbers, while

    the

    drawings to follow are taken as representative of

    many different classes of work.

    Spring shoes (Fig. 217, page 569) for open goods

    wagons are made at one heat. They are stamped

    first to the shape in Fig. 218, in the die, Figs. 219

    to 221, by a punch, Figs. 222 and 223 of the same

    outline as Fig. 218.

    Then

    the stamping is laid in

    a supplementary block A, bolted on

    at

    the back of

    the die (Figs. 219 and 220), and t he horns

    are

    turned

    over

    by

    the die B on the horizontal ram.

    The die block is furnished with openings at

    the

    sides, through which the stamping is removed.

    The

    face of the die is also formed with a steel

    plate screwed to the main cast-iron block, the hole

    in which (seen dotted in Fig. 220) gives clearance for

    the stamping. The punch alone- apart from its

    holder (seen in Figs. 222 and 223)- illustrates an

    economy in manufacture. It is countersunk in

    both faces for the cheese-headed screws that secure

    it to

    it

    s block, so

    that

    when one face becomes w

    or

    n

    badly, the punch is turned over and the oppos

    ite

    face

    brought

    into

    service. In addition, a

    cut

    can be taken

    off the faces when they

    both

    become worn,

    and

    the

    punch is

    then

    ready for a new lease of life. These

    precautions are worth taking, because

    the

    correct

    shaping of the punches is rather an expensive job.

    An example of a rapid piece of forging is the

    combined brake hanger bracket and safe ty hanger

    (Figs. 224 and 225). This is made perfect to shape

    and size from a piece of rough plate at one heat

    within a

    co

    uple of minutes. The plate (Fig. 226)

    is punched at one blow of the

    punch

    (Fig. 227) on

    the die,

    three

    views of which are given (Figs. 228

    to 230). On the rear face of the main die a sup

    plemen

    ta

    ry bending die A is cast, and the stamping

    is laid

    in a groove in this,

    and

    the horns

    or

    wings of

    the hanger bracket are

    turned

    over

    in

    pairs by a

    die B, attached to the horizontal ram of the forging

    press. One pair of horns is done thus,

    and

    t

    hen the

    bracket is turned round and the other pair

    bent

    over,

    at one heat. 1

    he value of the horizontal ram here

    is very apparent, for without i t

    the

    work would have

    to be transferred to another press, or done on the

    same press on another block at another hea t.

    In Figs. 228 to 230 the body of the die block

    is of east iron, and the face is of steel, screwed

    upon it. The d

    otted

    outline seen in plan in Fig 230

    is the hole in the casting ; the full line is that in the

    steel face, giving, as in the previous example, a

    clearance for

    the

    stamped plate to fall through.

    It

    is removed through the openings seen

    in

    Fig. 229.

    The punch

    in

    Fig. 227 is of mild steel secured

    in

    a holder with screws, and t he holder is bolted to

    the T -groovee in the face of the top ram of

    the

    press. The faces of punch and die are flat. In

    some practice the punch face is curved lengthwise,

    with a view of giving a detailed or shearing cut,

    but

    this does

    not

    seem

    to

    be necessary.

    There

    is

    no

    hardening of the faces dono, but the faces of

    punch

    and die become so hot that they have to be

    swabbed with water

    after

    each piece is stamped,

    and that

    in t

    ens

    ifi

    es

    the

    hardness of

    the

    steel

    in

    some degree. The method of attachment of the

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    wit

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    holes.

    E N G I N E E R I N G.

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    er

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    bent round, and welded. At Swin

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    th

    e lat

    te

    r

    cent re. The blocks us

    ed

    are shown in Figs. 232

    to

    242.

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    F igs. 243 to 245. One way

    by

    w

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    would be that described in previous art icles,

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    fr

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    having an o

    ri

    ginal se

    ct

    ion about equal

    to

    t hat of

    t

    he

    boss, and welding

    on

    the shan

    k

    of p

    lain

    ro

    un

    d rod. At Swind

    on

    the

    met

    hod adop

    te

    d is t o

    take a

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    dotted

    in

    F ig. 243

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    A), a

    nd

    t he long

    ba

    r B. Bo th pieces

    being

    bro

    ught to a welding heat , A is laid on the

    fl

    oo

    r a

    nd

    t

    he

    end of B da

    bb

    ed

    upon it

    .

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    ends

    ar

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    flatte

    ned

    against B

    und

    er the

    pr

    ess. The e

    nd

    is then p

    ut

    back i

    nto

    t

    he

    furnace,

    and

    a seco

    nd

    welding h

    ea

    t

    taken over it , and one squeeze in the dies (

    Fi

    gs.

    244 and 245) finishes the end.

    The shoes seen in

    Fi

    gs. 246

    and

    247, page 571, in

    volve a

    numb

    er of ope

    rati

    ons, which

    are

    illu

    st

    ra

    ted

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    in subsequent figures.

    The

    square socket is

    turned

    round and welded at

    the

    corner Fig . 248),

    and

    welded to

    the

    shoe, and

    the

    entire forging is

    then

    drifted

    and

    set

    in

    separate recesses

    in

    dies.

    The

    first operation

    after cutting

    off is

    that

    of

    bending

    the plat

    s to

    the

    sq

    uare form for

    the

    socket

    (Fig. 248), which is done

    in the

    dies shown

    by

    Fig.

    249. One half

    the

    work is done

    in the manner

    shown

    in that

    figure.

    The plate

    A is bent in

    the

    b

    ot

    tom die E

    by the

    pressure of

    the top

    die F. I t

    is

    then

    taken

    out and

    placed in an angular recess

    in the bottom die, the long

    end

    being uppermost,

    0.

    A mandrel D is inserted

    and the top

    die

    bends

    the

    free

    end

    over

    the

    mandrel,

    thu

    s forming

    the

    square.

    The next

    operation is seen

    in Fig

    s. 250

    and

    251,

    in

    which

    the

    socket,

    after

    being

    brought

    to

    a.

    weld

    ing heat, is laid

    in the

    die A,

    the

    doubly

    tapered

    ~ r i f t B inserted,

    and the

    top die 0

    brought

    down upon

    1t, closing the weld.

    The drift

    B is

    then

    pushed,

    --

    -

    ---

    1---

    . .Z33.

    .....

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    I

    c

    I

    I

    I

    I

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    I

    I

    I

    8

    --

    .....

    .._--- ---- _- ..

    ---

    -- _..

    0

    '

    A

    E N G I N E E R I NG.

    and crane hooks.

    Formerly both

    were made

    by

    bending, when iron was used for both.

    Iron

    still

    remains in use for

    the

    crane hooks, but

    the

    draw

    bar hooks

    are

    made of steel.

    The

    resulting difference

    in

    manufacture is

    that the

    first must generally

    be

    forged by drawing down

    and

    bending, while

    the

    latter ca

    .n be stamped from a solid lump.

    The

    latter are

    made

    at

    Swindon

    in

    two heats,

    under

    a

    30-ton steam hammer,

    thus

    :

    A lump is drawn down very roughly (Figs. 258

    aud 259) thicker than the hook,

    but narr

    ower,

    at

    one heat. At another

    heat

    it is put between a

    pair of top

    and

    bottom roughing dies

    under the

    steam hammer, which spreads

    and thins the

    lump

    to fill

    up the

    dies,

    but

    leaves a fin something like

    in. thick

    F

    ig. 260)

    and

    of variable width all round.

    At th

    e same heat

    the

    forging is driven through a

    stripping die (Figs. 261

    and

    262) which cuts off

    the

    fin.

    Then the

    finish is imparted in a p1ir of

    dies similar to those used for roughing out.

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    .

    ' I

    I I

    I ..

    ,--

    A ___ _ _

    -

    .

    ,, -- -----------..

    '

    (/

    .

    ,

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    )

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    --

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    I

    I

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    Fig

    .Z38.

    I

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    )

    .

    .R g

    .235.

    L

    _l

    )

    '

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    _

    '

    --

    1ec:

    td

    1----

    --

    ~ 0 ~

    .R

    239

    t-g

    .

    B: f :1

    .

    240

    8

    -

    c

    c

    ~ . 2 3 6

    I

    c

    L

    f . ~ ~

    I

    by the

    hori

    zo

    ntal

    ram

    of

    the

    machine, through

    the

    forging, making its interior straig

    ht

    and smooth.

    l he shoe,

    bent

    from

    a.

    piece of plate, is now welded

    to

    the

    soc

    ket

    in

    the

    pair of dies shown in Figs. 252

    to

    257. These are but a single pair of dies, each

    being shown

    in plan and

    joint

    face views re

    spectively.

    The

    bodies A B are made of

    Cc; l.St

    iron

    faced with steel, C D, screwed to form

    the joint

    and

    working faces of

    the

    dies. These pieces

    \J

    D

    are

    recessed

    out

    to

    take the

    rough forging.

    The

    welding of

    the

    shoe to

    the

    socket is performed

    while

    tha latter

    is retained

    in the

    socketed portion

    E.

    Afterwards

    the

    entire forging is placed

    in the

    recess F,

    and set

    to correct form between the dies,

    and

    by

    the

    aid of a drift inserted and pressed down

    by th

    e top ram. This

    drift

    is fastened to

    the

    top

    ram, which withdraws

    it

    after the

    sett

    ing is accom

    plished.

    The

    die A (Figs. 252, 263,

    and

    266) is

    the

    one which is

    bolt

    ed to

    the

    table of

    the

    press.

    The

    other, B (Figs. 254- 255,

    and 257

    ) is bo

    lted

    to

    the

    hori

    zontal

    ram of

    the

    press.

    There

    is muoh similarity between draw-bar hooks

    J

    J

    -

    -

    -

    -

    8

    r---

    -

    .......

    r

    I

    I

    r- --

    :

    I

    I

    j_

    __ _

    0

    -----

    .....

    (7

    061, L I

    The

    draw-bar plates (Fig. 263)

    are

    made at o

    ne

    heat in

    less

    than

    a minute. The plate is stamped

    with a. punch in a die to the outer shape and

    dimensions by the vertical ram of a press.

    Then it is picked up

    and set

    in a plain

    die at

    the rear

    of

    the

    main

    bloc

    k,

    and

    the

    hole punched by a single movement of

    the

    horizontal ram.

    The

    manger

    F

    igs. 264

    and

    265)

    4ft.

    long, is

    an

    example of a large piece of deep work stamped

    in

    three h

    elts in three

    sepa

    rate

    sets of dies. A piece

    of plate is first

    cut

    (

    Fi

    g. 266), with radii struck as

    shown, from three centres, for each end, and

    this

    then

    goes through three successive pairs of dies, the

    general form of which is shown in Figs. 267 to

    269, these figures illu

    st

    rating

    the

    finishing die only.

    The

    difference

    in this and the

    preliminary forming

    pair of dies is

    that the

    sides

    and

    ends of

    the latt

    er

    slope

    at a.

    greater angle, those of

    the

    ones illustrated

    having comparatively

    little

    slope,

    and

    those of

    the

    second pair have a degree of slope

    that

    is

    in t

    erme

    diate between that of

    the

    first and

    the third

    set,

    so

    that the

    plate is dished gradually, to avoid dis

    tressing the fibres too much.

    The

    dies consist of top A

    and

    bottom B. Lugs

    are

    cast at

    the

    sides of each, with holes for

    the

    insertion of bars for lifting

    and

    adjusting them by

    on

    the

    table.

    The

    top die is bolted to

    th

    e

    top

    ram by

    the slot

    holes shown.

    The di

    es

    are

    of

    cast iron,

    and

    necessarily very

    stout and

    mas

    sive. Such a piece of work as this manger,

    if dish

    ed

    and flanged by

    the

    o r d i n a r y methods of

    the

    plater, would be an expensive job;

    and

    if cast,

    as they usually are, they are also expensive by

    reason of

    the

    size of

    the

    moulding-box wanted,

    and

    the

    large

    quantity

    of sand

    to

    be rammed, while

    the

    metal cannot

    be run

    so

    thin

    as

    a.

    sh

    eet

    m

    et

    al

    plat

    e,

    and i f it

    could,

    the

    mang

    er.s

    would

    be

    liable to

    fracture. This, therefore, affo

    rds an

    illustration,

    among many others, of o

    ne

    of

    the

    economies of

    the

    practice of di

    e-

    forging

    in

    a shop, economies

    that result from extensions of the practice into

    &

    '

    '

    :

    I

    I

    I

    I

    :

    /

    .

    (

    A

    s itself, and

    ib

    may be interesting to

    recall, for the benefit of Lord George Hamilton and other

    critics, what has happened tefore. 'l'he a o tiYity of

    1

    884-5

    ,

    and the fabulous profits which everyone outside

    the trade knows

    to

    be normal in t he locomotive industry,

    induced the formation of a new company with extensive

    capital, modernly-planned shops, and expert management.

    This c o m p ~ had

    its

    firsb locomotive on show in the

    Edinburgh Exhibition of

    1886. In

    the course of bhree

    years ib had l

    osb

    the third of ibs capital, was glad to sell

    1tself to one of the old firms which was l

    oo

    king oub for a

    new location; and, withoub making any mystery of bhe

    matter, is now incorporated with Messrs. Sharp, Stewart,

    and Co.

    Limited, now

    of

    Glasgow, then of Manchester.

    Mr. Edttor, will you kindly insert the enclosed extracts

    from the annual reporb of the locomotive trade, and then

    tell the public whab the

    India

    Office did

    to

    supporb the

    new venture and to keep it in existence. Whab guarante

    have the l

    oco

    motive makers that what happened before

    will nob happen again, and who will help them in the

    struggle for existence when the inevitable depression

    comes round again ? These extracb reports show

    that

    the locomotive makers have been all along cogn

    i

    sa

    nt

    of what would happen when demand should

    strengthen from other markets, and the India Office

    and Indian officials have alone been blind

    bo

    the necessities

    of the case. All interested, including the presenb

    Secretary for

    India

    and his predecessors in office, had

    these annual reports senb to bhem,

    but

    the warnings did

    nob seem to affect them greatly. The present Secretary

    means kindlr by the home makers, and bhese latter

    appreciate

    h1s

    courtesies; therefore it will nob, per

    be baken amiss if we mildly call attention to his Lord

    ship's own period of administration. I believe his

    Lordship assumed office in July, 1895 . The trade report

    in December of thab year stated thab

    the

    total publio

    demand (nob from India. only hub from the

    wh

    ole world)

    could have been met by the output capacity of two of the

    firms. Lord G e o r ~ e s hand, however, could hardly have

    been felb by bbat btme; hub perhaps by the end of 8 ~ 7 ,

    after yeara of office, we might have looked for better

    bhan 'he Indian

    State

    Railways seem still to be l a g ~ i n g

    behind, being responRible fo(somewhere aboub

    40

    ,engmes

    only : , a number equal to two to three monbbs oubpub

    capacity of a

    Ei

    ngle shop.

    From this

    ib

    will

    be

    seen that we have only the three

    years

    1888-990

    to regard as years of aobivity, so far as the

    India Office is concerned; and as Indian orders have dur

    ing

    bhab

    time been freely placed abroad, the locomotive

    trade does

    nob

    feel itself under an insupportable load of

    gratitude

    to

    the Indian Government.

    After all this has been said, ib may be news to his Lord

    ship and the oritios, and it may even interest them to

    know, bhat every locomotive shop in the country has

    greatly enlarged

    its

    productive

    ca.paoiby

    within

    the

    last

    few years, in mosb oases the capital has also been greatly

    increased ; and these extensions will in the aggregate

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    equal ab least bwo new shops of large dimensions. f

    loc omo

    tive

    maker3

    are

    allowed to

    know

    th e elements

    of

    their own business, they may

    be

    pardoned if

    they

    feel

    somewhat doubtful whether the present temporary spurt

    justifies this extra expenditure; and

    if

    th

    ey

    consider that

    a. pause is desirable until rea

    sonable

    evidence is forth

    coming that

    the

    shareholders' mo ney has not been re.shly

    squandered.

    So

    far as

    the

    India Office is con ce rned,

    there is nothing

    to compel

    them in the

    future to geb their

    wants

    supplied

    in this c o u n ~ r y . f ib suited

    their

    book

    {or the personal failings or

    crotchets

    of any of their

    officials), they C)uld still go

    to

    America or Germany; and

    British makers will

    onJy

    eecure the work

    wh

    en they can

    compete

    succeEsfully in price

    and

    time of delivery, and

    when

    they secure

    contracts on

    these

    terms

    only, they

    need

    not

    feel

    greatly

    beholden

    to

    the

    India.

    Office.

    Lord George

    Hamilton seems

    to

    imply that the recent

    orders

    have

    been

    plac

    ed

    in Germany

    solely

    because of the

    failure of the

    Brit.ish

    makers to increase their capacity.

    The two have n o bearing on ea-ch

    other,

    or if

    they

    have

    the obverse is

    the

    case. British makers, before investing

    furth

    er

    capital in

    works

    and plant,

    have to consider all

    possible co

    ntingenoies,

    and one of th

    ese conting

    encies

    is

    the present state

    of

    trade in

    Germany.

    Ib is

    Germany

    's

    policy just n

    ow,

    as ib may be Belgium's

    to-morrow,

    and

    France, Austria, or even

    Italy

    's

    the

    next day, to cut

    prices for British orders;

    and

    when these foreigners are

    supported as

    they are by

    th eir fiscal policy, our firms are

    helpless

    to pr event

    them cutting

    in.

    America's

    presence

    in our markets

    represents competition

    (although on

    un

    fair linea), hub Germany 's present advent

    i.1

    temporary,

    and

    due entirely to

    extra

    neous

    ci

    rcumstances.

    Both

    Germany

    and America

    protect themselves

    against

    forei g n competition

    within their

    own borders by

    a.

    high

    customs tariff.

    They can thus secure

    a. splendid

    return from their

    own

    hom9

    requirements,

    and

    can afford to

    dispose of the

    balance

    of

    their

    produ

    c

    tion to outsiders

    ab a low,

    if

    not

    even

    unremunerative, rate. f by a long continuance of

    this

    policy: they were to extinguish

    the

    indust ry

    in

    this

    country, tb does nob require great perspicacity bo see

    what a

    plight

    we wou

    ld

    be in,

    and

    how we shou

    ld

    ulti

    mately

    have to

    pay through the nose for our lo

    comoti

    ve

    power.

    Without

    waiting for

    the

    standardising of

    the

    rolling

    stock, if L o

    rd

    George Hamilton

    could

    only

    see his way

    to deal direct

    with the maker

    s, accepting their reasonable

    guarantee for the work, the pr

    e

    sent total annual

    capa-city

    of the

    shops

    in this cou

    ntry would,

    by that fact,

    be

    in

    creased

    sufficiently to

    meet

    all

    his requirements, with

    a.

    trifle over for the Cape and other quarterP,

    I am, &c,

    October 2L, 1901. FAIR PLAY.

    EXTRACTS

    FROM

    PUBLIS

    HED

    .ANNUAL REPOR'lS

    OF

    THE

    LOCOMOTIVE TRA

    DE

    .

    1888.

    The Indian market has this year been unusually dull, and manu

    facturers have consequl'ntly bad to busy themselves in finding

    other markets to take its place. There have only been two or

    three orders for Indian State Railways given out for a considerable

    time. Such a state of matters is without parallel, and

    we

    think

    thereoan be no question as to the unwiadom of a pause in the

    railway development of our grPat Eastern dependency. India has

    so far only been touched by railways, and both from a military

    and commercial point of view there

    is

    the greatest desirability, and

    even necessity, for a policy

    of

    progress in laying down lines.

    Mr.

    Holt Hallett, in an admirable paper, demonstrates the profit to

    Ind.ia itsell to be derived from the proper and extensive o p e n i ~ g

    up of

    India by railways, and the cause

    of

    the present standsttll

    seems to us to be inex.Plir.able. Glasgow

    is

    now rep resented by

    seven Membera of Parhament ; and in view of the importance.of

    the Indian market to the West of.Scotland, the lack of enterpnse

    in Indian railways might very well form the subject of a question

    to the Secretary for India.

    1889.

    A most remarkable circumstance is that the Government

    of

    India have failed to take advantage of their opportunity. L -st

    year

    we

    drew attention to the fact that orders for the Indmn

    State Railways bad been given out only in such very small quan

    tities as would n ot keep their rolling stock up to

    a. p r p ~ r

    state of

    efficiency. This year tt has been even worse; and 1t JS safe to

    predict that. the Indian Council will be forced into the market by

    preBSure

    of ci rcumstances when prices are greatly enhanc

    ed

    .

    They have let slip their opportunity, and the longer they delay

    the more they will have to suffer; as will be readily understood by

    every one conversant e\en in a very ordinary degree with the

    present great demand and

    in

    crease in prices for all kinds of

    and manufactured materials. We can hardly contemJ?late wtth

    equanimity the position this c o : l n t ~ y

    w o ~ l d be

    m, were a

    time of war-like emergency to anse

    1n

    India, nec

    ess

    1tatmg a large

    and speedy supply

    of

    rolling stock.

    1890.

    The Indian market has not shown the act ivity whi ch

    was

    anti

    cipated at this time a year ago. Year after year we have bad to

    call attention

    to

    the lack of enercry OJ the Pl;\rt of those. respon

    sible for the State Railways in Ind1a. It

    JS

    so long Since the

    Government placed orders, t ~ ~ t their ~ l l i n g stook must now.

    be

    in a most unsatisfactory oonditton, the year the Indtan

    companies have given out orders for 95

    enjZmes,

    and of t h e e ~ only

    30 ordered within the last week have been for Government hoes.

    1891.

    India, which, with its enormous resources, ought of i t s ~ l f to

    keep our locomotive shops fully employed, has b ~ e n praotumlly

    non-existent for years past ns a market. for engmes , and year

    after year this repo

    rt

    has had to chromole the enme

    stat

    e

    of

    matter

    s.

    The hopeful view to take

    that

    since the demand for

    locomotive power must come some time, every year that elapses

    must bring us nearer to it.

    1892.

    India has bulked rather more largely than the home market,

    and still the State Railwoys' requirements are remarkable by

    tbeir absenc

    e.

    Year after year

    we

    h Jo

    ve

    bad

    t?

    ~ r o n i

    thesame tbing, and have already

    p r o g n o s t 1 c a ~ e d

    an

    }n

    evlt Joble early

    floodin g of the market with orders to brmg theJr e.qutpment up

    to

    normal efficiency ; but every time our prognostJoatJons bav.e

    failed and we shall consequently now cease to prophesy unttl

    the is realised.

    1893. .

    As a market for locomotives, India has ag-ain been a failure;

    E N G I N E E R I N G.

    [OcT. 2 5, 1901.

    were practically non-existent. Time after time in this column

    we have indicated a great spurt in the locomotive industry in

    the following year, due to Indian officials awakening to a sense

    of

    railway

    ~ q u i

    r e m e n t s but we cease henceforth to prophesy

    on Indian ratlway

    s.

    Probably, when the spurt

    come1.1

    ,

    we

    may see

    it, but meantime matters are

    gett

    ing wor se from year to year.

    Whill' in the case of India, long looking in that direction has

    made the heart sick, makers are refreshed when they transfer

    the ir vision to China and Japan

    to. be very

    near

    the

    ends

    .of

    the

    rails, leav ing o

    nly

    about

    lm . of metal fr om

    the

    side

    of the

    hole to end of rail.

    The

    nexb

    two

    bolts may

    be

    wider

    sp

    a

    ced and

    smaller

    in

    diameter.

    The bolts near

    the

    middle of the fishplates

    have much more strain

    to re

    sist than

    tbe

    other

    two;

    they

    should,

    therefore, be stronger, and

    be

    placed as near

    as possible to their mark, which is at the e

    nd

    of the rail.

    No

    other eng ine ering

    structure

    depends so much for

    security on

    bolts

    as rail

    joints,

    yeb

    bolts

    ~ e n e r a l l y put

    in

    are much too weak for their w

    or

    k. 'Vtth good,

    sho

    rt,

    we11

    -fitt

    ing fishplates

    and

    large-s

    i

    r.e

    d middle bolts a

    strong and durable joint may be madA.

    1894.

    We ceased last year to

    co

    unt upon the return to life of the

    Indian rail

    waJ

    s, etating that

    we

    had prophl'sied

    so

    long that

    we

    would

    now

    haYe to wa tch

    a.nd

    see

    th

    e event when it happened.

    f the desired improveml'nt has not yet co

    mt>,

    it seems to be

    coming ; and the market in that great dependency shows indica

    tions of awakening from its slumbers

    of

    many years. Fully a third

    of

    the public con t racts have come from India, and a gratifying

    feature

    is

    that

    the

    progrl'BB

    has been reg

    ul

    ar and not spasmodic;

    in any

    c a s ~ : >

    makers are looking to that market as their chief

    anchor of hope.

    E xpamsion. - Rails lAid in summer time

    shou

    ld

    be

    laid

    close

    -butb

    to butt; if laid

    in winter

    1\l in. to a

    30 fb.

    rail

    is

    enough space to leave

    for

    expansion,

    which

    is

    nob

    such

    an irresistible

    force as

    is generally

    imagined.

    Sl

    p

    rs.- I

    ha.ve

    Lean surprised

    to

    find the rails of ter

    minal s

    tations,

    shunting yards, and docks laid

    on

    sleepers,

    as of old, when those

    places

    where there is n

    ob

    great s

    peed

    of train co

    uld be

    laid with broad-Banged rails placed on to

    solid concrete,

    and

    buried half their

    depth

    in this same ma

    terial. When laid in this way

    they a.

    re done with ;

    ther

    e i J

    no wood

    to

    rot

    or

    swe

    lJ

    ,

    or cbaira to trip over

    or

    be

    come

    loose. When concrete is a continuous

    bearing

    under

    the

    rail, it does not make ba rd running like what the old

    atone blocks mad e in the early

    day

    s of railways. G J ~ g o w

    tramway cars run sometimes very quickly, bub always

    smoothly, and

    th e

    rail

    s

    are

    laid di rectly on concrete.

    1895.

    The amount of work placed through the open market might

    well have been undertaken by two of the leading establishments;

    and while there was a considerable quant

    it

    y of work privately

    negotiated, still over all the re was not anything like sutfloient

    demand to take up half the produ

    ct

    ive ca

    p1

    city of the country.

    1896.

    The Indian market has been specially active during the past

    year, and has assumed the importance a m o n g s ~ markets for l

    oco

    motive wo rk whioh has been conspicuously absent during recent

    times. Its importance has almost equalled that

    of

    the home

    market, and the pressure of traffic seems to have been fel t all

    over the land.

    nter

    cour

    s of

    Officers.-

    do not find that there is much

    intercourae between the officers of

    the different

    rail w

    ay

    a.

    They do nob mee t ab abort intervals

    to exchange

    ideas

    and discus3 proposed improvements, like the Mas ter

    Mechanics and

    Car

    -Builders of the U nited

    States

    . Th ough

    there

    are many

    railway

    companies in

    thi s

    country,

    the

    island

    is

    so small

    that rail

    ways, as far as their ro

    lling

    stock is concerned, must

    be

    wo

    rked

    pretty much as one

    concern. I therefore think that instead of working out

    ne w i

    deas

    alone,

    the

    master

    m

    echanics

    ought to meet

    with their fellows of all other railways, tJo reason

    tog

    e ther

    and take counsel.

    1897.

    Of all the markets whi ch have helped to keep the locomotive

    trade in full pressure, probably the most important this year has

    been that of India. The State R'lilways seem still to be lagging

    behind,

    bei

    ng responsible for somewhere about forty l n ~ i o e

    only, whioh is a small proportion

    co

    nsidering the mileage of lin

    e3

    coming under

    that

    heading.

    BRITISH

    RAILWAY PRACTICE.

    To THE EDITOR oF ENGINEERING.

    Sm, - In reading

    the addre

    l a

    that

    L ord R )sebery de

    livered the other day at

    Birmingham, I was

    impr

    essed

    with that part of it

    wh

    ich treated

    of

    " the want of inde

    pendent thought i n Great Britain."

    I am an engineer

    who

    has lived over forty

    yeare abroad.

    I came home a

    few

    months ago on a sho

    rt

    visit, and

    t imed my holiday so

    a-s

    to enable me to visit the Glasgow

    Exhibition, which

    includes

    an admirable

    exhibit of

    new

    ma

    c

    hines and

    processes.

    There

    are, however,

    many

    things,

    bo

    th

    in tJhe Exhibition and oub of it in th is country, th.ab

    a little independent thought o u ~ h t

    to

    have

    altered

    and

    improve d

    before

    the e

    nd

    of the nine teenth centu

    ry.

    As

    I

    am

    connected with

    a.

    railroad abroad, I will con

    fine

    my

    criticism bo rail road matters,

    and

    mention

    a.

    few

    thingd

    that I,

    bei

    ng

    a stranger, see a

    nd

    consider de

    fects,

    which may

    not

    be

    noticed ab all by all

    engineers

    in

    this

    co

    untry.

    In the Glasgow Exhibition are

    several

    fine in s

    ide

    cylin

    der-c

    o

    upl

    ed locomotives, and all of them-except one

    ha ve the outside cou pling-rod cranks shorter than

    the

    ma in

    axle

    c

    rank.

    One

    of

    them that gives figures on

    the

    dr aw

    ing

    exhibited illustr

    at ing the

    engine, shows

    the

    inside

    cranks to be

    13 in . and the outside cranks 9 in.

    No

    w I

    ask- because I do n

    ob

    know-why is this difference made?

    The only excuse that I find for the practice is that it w

    as

    common forty years ago,

    and

    it therefore continues almo

    st

    univeraa.l to day.

    Yet it

    cauees much more

    strain

    on the

    crankpins, rods,

    and

    brasses.

    and

    a

    greater

    danger of

    heated

    brasses and waste of oil.

    Again, coupling-rod cranks

    are put in the driving

    wheel opposite

    to

    the main crank on the axle; I presume

    that they were put orieina.lly on the opposite side

    to

    help

    to

    balance

    the w ~ t g h t

    the main crank ~ n d con

    necting-rod,

    and for thi

    s obJect

    are

    pub

    there

    still.

    But

    Mr. Stroud

    ley showed, more

    than thirty

    years ago,

    that it

    was

    bebter to

    pub the outside c

    ranks on the

    same side of

    th e

    wheel

    as the main crank, because the turning of the

    leading and trailing wheels

    was

    then a. di rect push-and

    pull from the crank in the driving wheel; whereas the

    present

    practi

    ce requires

    that

    the force t

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    very

    shorb indeed-the

    whole subjecb

    was thrashed

    out.

    Noth

    ing was glo3sed over. But

    neith

    er of th

    ese

    gentle

    men appears

    to

    be sa.tisfi

    3

    d. I will therefore make another

    at tem

    pt.

    The engines and screws. and

    all

    the

    rotabing

    pa.rbs of

    tbe

    machinery

    in the

    Cobra,

    we

    re

    very

    beautifully

    b:l.la.nced,

    as

    they are in all of

    Parsons'

    turbines. Both

    s y a t e ~ s we r

    e mount.ed in the

    same

    rigid

    fram

    e

    sec ured to

    the a

    htp

    ab

    many pomts. Th

    e

    shaft

    s

    had a.

    fixed

    position

    as

    re

    la tes to ea

    cb

    other, approximately

    parallel. The

    weight

    of the

    two

    sy

    st e

    ms* was

    identica

    l ; they

    were

    bobh

    su pplied

    with steam from

    th

    e sa

    me source

    and

    both

    discharged

    their steam

    into

    the

    same c o n d ~ n s e r .

    V

    ~ a . y

    therefo

    re

    infer

    that th

    ey rotated in opp

    >

    site

    duecttons

    at

    very nea

    rly

    the sa

    me certainly

    within

    1

    per

    ce

    nt

    .

    Suppose

    that

    the

    Cob

    ra.

    had

    b

    ee

    n

    provi

    ded wibh

    trunnions passing transversely

    th r

    oug

    h

    her

    cent

    re

    of

    gravity, and

    tba.t

    she had been mounted on ball

    bearings so as to be traiped freely

    in

    any direct

    ion

    li k

    e a.

    gu

    .o, and tba.b

    the engines

    sh

    ould be set

    in

    motion, the

    shtp ~ c c u p y i n g a horizontal -position. S uppose now that

    we ratSed the bow of

    the sh

    1p and de-pressed the stern.

    One syatem of turbines would ma.ke a. s

    hght

    effort

    to

    move

    the

    stern of th e ship

    to

    the

    right,

    and

    the

    other

    wou ld make an effort with exactly equal force to

    move it to the left, but as tbe fra me is absolutely

    fixed, and as the st ern bearings ca.n neither approach

    n )r re cede from each other, this moveme

    nt

    becomes

    im p

    ossible. In ord er to develop

    any

    gyroscopic

    restsbance to bhe mo vement of the bow of the ship, either

    up or down, ib is necessary for the shafts to throw

    them

    selves

    oub of a parallel p o ~ i t i o n and a.s this is impossible,

    th e

    engines,

    a.

    s gyroscopes,

    be

    cJmes completely impotent,

    and offer no

    re

    sist an

    ce

    ab

    all

    ; in fact, the ship could be

    tilted in

    any

    dire

    ct

    ion or rotated on a. vertical axis with

    perfect freedom whether the turbines

    wore

    rotating or

    not . Th e rotat ion of the turbines has abJolutely no effect

    upon the free movement of the ship in any direction.

    I t

    is

    true

    if

    we

    pl a

    ce one spi

    nning

    gyroscope

    in

    a.

    box

    or

    frame, and

    at t

    9mpb to tilt

    ib

    on a.

    hori

    zontal axis, the

    gyroscope

    will of

    itself turn on a.

    verti

    c1l

    axis-in

    fact,

    the management of a

    gyroscope

    in a. box held loosely in

    the hand is

    so

    mething like

    driving

    a. pig which h

    as

    a.

    will of it s

    own,

    and it is this action which has deceived

    superficial experimenters.

    I f a.

    single gy r

    os

    cope is

    mounted in a rigid frame,

    ib

    offers not one

    particle

    of

    resistance to having

    its plane of

    rotation

    changed in

    any direction. This is the poinb tha.b is not undersnood

    by engineers. Mr. Cassel,

    however.

    is nob

    satisfied

    with

    theory;

    he wants

    figures.

    To satisfy

    his burning desire

    for figures

    to

    acc

    urately

    express the

    force

    mo

    ments

    due

    to gyr

    oscop

    ic

    acti

    on in the O

    ob

    ra., I

    eupply

    the following

    complete

    statement

    for the four s h a f t ~ looking afb :

    Resistance

    bo

    pi bching . 0 + 0 + 0 + 0

    =

    0

    Transverae couples

    du

    e

    to

    pitching

    .. . . ..

    +

    A + B - B - A

    =

    0

    where

    A and

    Bare

    horizo

    ntal

    static

    couples applied

    by

    the

    shafbs,

    balanced by equal

    and oppos

    ite

    - B

    - A

    when

    the

    vessel is und er

    way

    .

    I f Mr. Se

    rrell, in

    his experiments which be

    s1.ys are

    so

    "e x tremely

    easy, " will

    use

    two bicycle wheels

    instead

    of

    one,

    and rotate th

    em

    in opposite direction

    s ab

    equal

    velo

    cities,

    ib

    will

    do

    infini

    te

    ly

    more to enlighten him

    on this

    subject than anything

    tha.b I co

    uld write.

    I will

    admit

    tha.b

    this

    letter co

    ntains

    no

    new ideas, and

    tha.b the whole principle of the gyroscopic action on

    board the Cobra was fully shown and set forth in my

    previous letter.

    My

    only

    excuse

    for the great length of

    the present letter is that my first letter was not under

    sto:>d.

    Yours truly,

    HIRA M STEVENS J\tlAXIM.

    18, Queen's Gate-plac3, London, S.W., October 21, 1901.

    To

    THE

    EDITOR OF ENGINEERING.

    Srn - I

    hav

    e read with great interest

    the

    letters now

    appearing in ENGINEERING, aud should like

    to

    say, with

    ree

    rence to

    S r Hira.m S. Maxim's

    letter

    of October 9 on

    tl:le above subject, that by

    actual

    experiment with two

    gyrJscopes

    of equal weight and

    diam

    e ter, mounted in a

    re

    ctangular frame,

    both

    spinning in op.Posite directionEI,

    on turning from the vertical

    to

    the honzo

    nt a

    l, bhe r e ~ u l b

    is

    absolutely

    ni l

    as regards

    any

    gyroscopic

    effect

    trans

    mitted

    to the

    frame.

    On spinning

    the

    gyroscopes

    both

    in the same

    direction,

    or either singly, the frame being held by a. strong man,

    great diffic

    ulty was

    experienced in turning. In fa.cb, it

    was found alm

    os

    t im possible,

    without

    the

    ends

    of the

    fram

    e

    moving

    laterally.

    Th i

    s would certainly

    pub

    an additional strain on any

    framework of the

    ship.

    On putting the r

    ectangular

    frame

    bebween lathe cenbres, the

    gyroscopes

    spinning

    with th

    eir

    axe1

    at

    right

    angles

    with the lathe

    ce

    ntres, both turning

    in the same di r

    ec t

    ion, bhe frame burns on the

    centres as

    easily

    as

    when they were nobspinning.

    Thu

    s s

    howing

    there can

    be

    but little

    or

    no

    additi

    o

    nal

    strain

    on

    the

    framework

    of the

    structure,

    assuming it is

    well secured.

    I

    may menti

    on the

    gyroscopes experimented

    with were

    6 in. in diameter, and

    weigh

    ed 6 lb .

    eac

    h.

    Yours faithful1y,

    J Al\fES

    F.

    CARTER.

    Experimental Works,

    Ba.thea.ston, Oot

    obe

    r 22, 1901.

    To THE

    EDITOR oF

    ENGINEERING.

    Sm,

    Mr. Serrell

    will

    find

    tha.b S

    ir

    Hi

    am Maxim's

    atatemenb is " in

    accordance

    with

    fact,

    " if,

    instead

    of con

    fining his

    attention to one

    wheel,

    he performs his experi-

    *

    Ib

    is

    assumed here

    that the Cobra.

    had one system

    of

    two screw shafts revolving bo

    the right,

    and

    another

    y s b e m

    of

    bwo

    screw shans revolving to the left.

    E N G I N E E R I N G.

    menb

    with

    two. I book

    two front bicy

    c

    le wh

    eels on

    their

    bearings oub of

    two

    bicycles, and rigidly connected the

    two axles together l y screwing one

    end

    of

    one

    axle

    to

    the

    end of

    th

    e

    other

    axle with an ordinary bicycle wheel nub,

    so

    that the bwo wheels were practically

    on one

    rigid axle.

    I

    then

    held the two wh

    ee

    ls by

    th

    e o uter ends of the now

    rigid

    axle,

    and got a. fri

    end

    to

    start

    th

    e

    wh ee

    ls revolving.

    When

    one

    wheel only was

    revolving, I

    naturally

    ex

    perienced the " r esistance

    to

    some

    deviati

    ons of the

    axis," as

    mentioned by

    Mr. Serrell.

    When

    both wheels wer

    e

    revol

    'ing in the

    same dire

    c-

    tio

    n, this resistanc

    e

    appeared to

    be aboub double; but

    when th

    e two

    whee

    ls

    were revolving as

    near

    as

    p o

    ssible

    at

    th

    e

    same

    speed in

    different direc t

    ions,

    this

    resiRta.n

    ce

    was practica.lly t

    .

    That

    this result would be attain

    ed

    is qu1te clear

    from

    mathemati

    cs,

    as

    may

    be seen

    if

    one

    co

    mpound

    s

    th

    e

    angular momentum

    of

    b o ~ h

    wheels

    with

    the couple whi

    ch is

    applied to turn

    the syste m

    as a. wh

    ole.

    Yours faithfull

    y ,

    Norbh Ke n

    s

    ington, October

    23.

    G. S. ODLING.

    TESTING DOWSON GAS.

    To THE EDITOR

    OF

    ENGINEERING.

    Sm , - I should be glad of the assistance of

    any

    of the

    readers of your paper in the following matter :

    I

    want

    a

    simple,

    but fairly r e l i a b l ~ method of te

    sting

    the quality

    of Dowron ~ a s .

    I

    am concerned

    with a. plant for supplying this gas,

    which is used for a variety of heating purposes.

    As

    a

    general rule, satisfactory

    re..c:mlts are

    obtained, but

    every

    now and then complaints ar ise from the users of the

    gas

    that ib nob of good quality . Sometimes the cause of the

    complaints can be tra.c:e j

    to

    carelessness on the

    part

    of the

    stoker, ab other

    times

    no explanation ca.n be fou

    nd,

    and no

    doubb co

    mpl

    aints are frequently made when the is

    not ab fa.ulb ab all.

    Ib

    occurred to

    me thab some si

    mpl

    e method of

    te3ting

    the

    in

    the

    same way

    that

    boiler flue

    gases

    are

    tested

    could

    be

    devis

    e

    d,

    whe

    reby

    the

    inflammable and h

    eat

    giving

    constituents of the

    gas could be

    sepa