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Eric Richard (@ericrrichard), VP Engineering, @HubSpot The Birth of Tally Or, how I stopped worrying and learned to love autonomous teams

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Eric Richard, VP of Engineering at HubSpot, presented on the journey from discovery to delivery of Tally

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Eric Richard (@ericrrichard), VP Engineering, @HubSpot

The Birth of TallyOr, how I stopped worrying and

learned to love autonomous

teams

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It All Started With a Button

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It All Started With a Button

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What if…

We gave customers the ability to provide support-like interactions for their users via their websites?

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We already had existing use cases

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We already had existing use cases I

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“Just like we have built tools

that allow small/medium

sized businesses to

compete with the

enterprises of the world in

Marketing, let’s give them

the tools to do the same in

Customer Service”

And insightful advice from execs

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What’s the MVP?

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An embeddable button

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That triggers a widget/form

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That collects information on a request

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And how should we go to market?

Use the same playbook that has been wildly successful with

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If we provide value to individual support reps we can get support management to adopt software and eventually pay.

Hypothesis

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Experiment

Loads of Customer interviews across different company sizes

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• Most companies don’t provide support reps with budget for software

• Most companies don't empower customer support reps to make decisions or even influence decisions about software

Results

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It will be very difficult to create a sustainable growth business in the Customer Support space.

Conclusion

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Act II: Pivot Time

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“Nope”

“Do you know how many of your customers are your evangelists?”

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“Do you know how many of your customers are at risk of canceling/returning your product?”

“Nope”

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“YES!!! SIGN ME UP NOW!!!!”

“Would you like to get a list of these two groups so that you could email and nurture them?”

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Act III: Introducing Tally

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David HuntKnowledge Base AdminHubSpot

Using Tally over the past few months does not feel like using software to respond to customer feedback…

It feels like having a balanced and non-disruptive conversation, where the software gets out of your way and let's you focus on the person in front of you.

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Angela DeFrancoContent Product ManagerHubSpot

Tally gives me instant access to the pulse of what people are feeing about our products in general, but also the details of why they're feeling that way.

I not only love Tally, but I feel like Tally loves me right back.

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With Tally I’ve heard from beta group testers in the first few days that I normally don’t hear from in weeks.

Molly WolfbergUX ResearcherHubSpot

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Conclusion

This is why we believe in highly autonomous teams who are free to iterate on their own to discover market fit.

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Conclusion

“What happens when the leader is wrong in a top-down culture? Everyone

goes off a cliff.”

“Great leaders give control, they don’t take control.”

-Capt. David Marquet

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To talk more about HubSpot’s culture:[email protected]

@ericrrichard

Oh, and BTW, we are hiring:www.hubspot.com/jobs