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With financial
support from the
European Union
ETS Kick-off Event
Wednesday, 2 October 2019
Brussels
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Agenda.
#ETS2019
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Agenda.
#ETS2019
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Opening & Welcome.
●Alexandra Phillippi, PGGM
ETS Steering Committee Member
●Percy Bischoff, VBL
Chairman of the ETS Steering Committee
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Key note speech.What is the future of pensions?
●Katarina Ivanković-Knežević,
Director for Social Affairs, European Commission - DG Employment, Social Affairs & Inclusion
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The future of pension communication.
●Professor Yves Stevens,
Faculty of Law – KU Leuven University
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Prof. dr. Yves Stevens
Kick-off Event of the ETS project
Brussels, 2 October 2019
The future of pension communication
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POLICY OPTIONS
The form of the communication
The periodicity of the communication
The language and the register of the
communication
The layers of the communication
The integration of the communication
The centralized or decentralized
communication
The embedded or non-embedded
communication
The deterministic and static or amendable
communication
Four questions
What do member
states (MS) communicate? (extent of information)
How do MS communicate
(manner of communicati
on)?
To whom do MS
communicate (communicati
on targeting)?
What is the legal value
and the authenticity
of the communicati
on?
2013
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BACKGROUND
1. Legitimacy of pension reforms
A good understanding is a prerequisite for pension changes and reforms and thus legitimate pension systems communicate transparently.
2. Financial and pension illiteracy
• “A combination of awareness, knowledge, skills, attitude and behaviour necessary to make sound financial decisions and ultimately achieve individual financial well-being.” (A. ATKINSON and F.-A. MESSY, “Measuring Financial Literacy: Results of the OECD INFE Pilot Study”, OECD Working Papers on Finance, Insurance and Private Pensions 2012, No. 15, OECD Publishing, 3.)
• Attention aspects: older respondents, lower educated, minorities, women, non‐home owners, respondents with lower incomes, respondents with lower wealth
2013
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10
2019
Although the same questions still apply, some new issues or insights have
risen in meantime
capability
holistic thinking
the pension concept
used
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INFORMATION
Empowers
Protects
PRESUPPOSITION
= ?
capability
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Are people capable of understanding?
OR
Should people be capable of understanding?
CAPABILIITY
The answer is highly ideological…
The answer depends on societal view and individual capacities and responsibilities.
e.g. opting out of auto-enrolment schemes
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Fundamentally, why do
we (need to)
communicate?
And try to ascertain
that people really
understand?
TRUST
Why should or would anyone distrust his
or her pension scheme?
Because it doesn’t deliver what it is
supposed to deliver or what the
individual thinks it should deliver?
Why?
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BECAUSE THERE
ARE INCREASING
SHIFTS of RISKS
TOWARDS THE
INDIVIDUAL.
- Lower average state pensions
- Higher average need for personal backup
- Shift from DB to DC
- Longevity
- Investment risk in a low interest environment
- Insolvency employer
- Insolvency pension provider
- Unstable political environment
- …
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Within ESG
Assessment
Individual
Risk
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HOLISTIC
THINKING
Institutional horizon
Individual horizon
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The notion of the word ”pension” can cover many underlying concepts
A form of deserved rest
A compensation for the physical impossibility to work any longer
A part of the wage structure
A deferred remuneration
A reward for services paid to the country
A form of savings
A form of property
A form of individual or collective life insurance
A form of social insurance
A form of shared citizenship
concept
of
pension
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Communication underlines and strengthens some types of concepts
A form of deserved rest
A compensation for the physical impossibility to work any longer
A part of the wage structure
A deferred remuneration
A reward for services paid to the country
A form of savings
A form of property
A form of individual or collective life insurance
A form of social insurance
A form of shared citizenship
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Panel Discussion:The future of European pensions and digitalcommunication on pensions in Europe
●Yves Stevens, Professor in Faculty of Law – KU Leuven University
●Valdis Zagorskis, European Commission - DG EMPL
● Jeroen Lenaers, Member of European Parliament, EPP
●Anders Lundström, CEO minpension.se & member of the ETS Steering Committee
Moderator: Michel de Jonge, PGGM #ETS2019
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With financial
support from the
European Union
#ETS2019
Coffee Break 15:15 – 15:30
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With financial
support from the
European Union
Please answer the survey
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ETS Project presentation.Key objective & added-value and scope.
●Claudia Wegner-Wahnschaffe,
ETS Project Manager, VBL
#ETS2019
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Agenda.
Background – why are we here – ETS vision and mission
Scope – Functionalities to the benefit of mobile workers
Solution – Approach and added value
Success – Strong network and international agile collaboration
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… Due to her professional mobility as a hospital based physician she feels lost in terms of pension provision:
● What will she get and from where…
● Will she lose entitlements after leaving a country…
● Where and when to apply…
● Language problems and complexity of information
…
Hanna is struggling…
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ETS vision and mission
All European residents should have access to information on their pension entitlements no matter where they were accrued within Europe and regardless of their country of residence…
● Create means to find an overview of entitlements
● Tailored and personalized information
● Support pension tracking services and pension providers in communicating with/ finding their participants…
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… With the support of FYP Hanna finds …
● Her pension providers affected
● Contact and necessary actions
● Tailored information regarding mobility and pensions
● Her pension entitlements in a number of countries
● Tools to save her list of providers and entitlements
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Hanna will receive pension information from one site – tailored and targeted
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ETS Scope: FYP a viable, scalable product
Structured and consolidated info
Pension summary
Projections
My Track / My Pension
Find me
Find beneficiaries
Tailoredinformation
Find your ProviderGuided Search
Layering
General Information
Pension LandscapesKey information
Personal pension information
Provider and entitlements in the format
of the data source
My Track / Self tracking
Contact mail
Level 1 Level 2 Level 3
Customer View
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ETS Project solution set-up: step-by-step – Phases and Activities
Phase
Activity
Level 1A/Bset-up for 5 + x countries
Level 2Proof of Concept
Level 3Exploring
Pilot Implementation
Level 1A/BExtension
Level 2Connecting NTSs
Level 3Setting-Up Applications
Roll-out phase
All Levels
Stabilizing ETS organization as an
integrated FYP Platform
Running
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Project deliverables
Set-up independent ETS Organization
Website findyourpension.eu
+Proof of Concept:Data Exchange
Pilot Concept
Strategy & Business Plan
+Full Rollout Concept
Vision
Belgian Data
Customer Usability
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How do we work – 5 Work Streams
Level 1A/BImplementing
Level 2Proof of Concept
Level 3Exploring
Pilot Implementation
WS 2: Connection Concept
WS 3: Establish a management organizationfor the European Tracking Service (ETS)
WS 1: Implementation of the Pilot ETS,
WS 0: Project Management
WS 2a: Description of the fully functional ETS+ Full roll-out concept
WS 4: Communication strategy and activities
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Join us!
Pension Communi-
cation-holistic
approach
Input for Level 1
NTS exchange
Survey on pension commu-nication
eIDAS, authenti-
cation,connection
ETS Content
Guidelines
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What makes a successful collaboration: Our international agile project team
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Thank you for the attention.
With financial
support from the
European Union
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ETS Survey Results.State of play of digital pension communicationin Europe
●Giselda Curvers,
ETS Project Member, FPS
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With financial
support from the
European Union
Pension communication in Europe.State of play 2019
Results of the ETS-surveyKick-off event 2 October 2019
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Why this survey?
● LEARN: State of play 2019 on (digital) pension communication in Europe
● Update TTYPE study of 2014: evolution?
● Input for the ETS full roll-out plan
● ENGAGE: Network of pension communication experts in Europe
● Spreading the word: ETS is alive and kicking!
● Raising awareness on the topic
● Building a community
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Who we wanted to reach?FI
UK
AT
SE
NO
PL
DE
IE
FR
ES
PT
IT
NL
BE
CH
DK
HUSI
HR
CZLU
LT
LV
EE
SK
RO
BG
GR
● Pension communication experts of
● EU 28
● Norway
● Switzerland
● Iceland
! Malta, Cyprus and Iceland are not on the map.
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Who participated? FI
UK
AT
SE
NO
PL
DE
IE
FR
ES
PT
IT
NL
BE
CH
DK
HUSI
HR
CZLU
LT
LV
EE
SK
RO
BG
GR
● Response for 24 countries!
● No response for:
● Cyprus
● Estonia
● Greece
● Hungary
● Italy
● Romania
● Iceland
! Malta, Cyprus and Iceland are not on the map.
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Who participated? Type of organization
Pension association
Pension provider
NTS
Public administration/Ministry
Umbrella organization pension funds
Other
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What‘s in a name? Definition of NTS
NTS is a digital service which can be accessed by citizens and which gives personalized information about the pension entitlements of the citizen.
The information might or might not come from different sources.
NTS is not general information about the pension system, even if this general information is tailored to the user.
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To NTS or not to NTS?
State of play 2014TTYPE-survey
FI
UK
AT
SE
NO
PL
DE
IE
FR
ES
PT
NL
BE
CH
DK
SIHR
CZLU
LT
LV
SK
BG
ROIT
EE
GR
HU
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To NTS or not to NTS?
State of play 2019ETS-survey
FI
UK
AT
SE
NO
PL
DE
IE
FR
ES
PT
NL
BE
CH
DK
SIHR
CZLU
LT
LV
SK
BG
IT
EE
ROHU
GR
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To NTS or not to NTS?
Futur evolution?ETS-survey
● Plans to build a NTS in
● Germany
● Luxemburg
● United Kingdom
● Croatia
● Czech Republic
FI
UK
AT
SE
NO
PL
DE
IE
FR
ES
PT
NL
BE
CH
DK
SIHR
CZLU
LT
LV
SK
BG
IT
EE
ROHU
GR
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To NTS or not to NTS?
State of play 202X?
FI
UK
AT
SE
NO
PL
DE
IE
FR
ES
PT
NL
BE
CH
DK
SIHR
CZLU
LT
LV
SK
BG
IT
EE
ROHU
GR
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What‘s in the NTS?Coverage FI
UK
AT
SE
NO
PL
DE
IE
FR
ES
PT
NL
BE
CH
DK
SIHR
CZLU
LT
LV
SK
BG
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First – statutory pension pillarSecond – occupational pension pillarThird – private pension pillar
First – statutory pension pillarSecond – occupational pension pillar
First – statutory pension pillar
What‘s in the NTS?Coverage FI
UK
AT
SE
NO
PL
DE
IE
FR
ES
PT
NL
BE
CH
DK
SIHR
CZLU
LT
LV
EE
SK
BG
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What‘s in the NTS?Scope
General information on pensions
Personal information on pensions: basic – static - passive
Personal information on pensions: advanced – dynamic - interactive
Take actions!
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What‘s in the NTS?Scope General
informationPersonal information Additional
FunctionsTake action?
Basic Advanced
7/11 11/11 8/11 5/11 10/11
Denmark No Yes
Norway Yes Yes
Sweden Yes Yes
Belgium No Yes
France Yes Yes
Netherlands Yes No
Austria No Yes
Finland Yes Yes
Latvia No Yes
Poland No Yes
Slovakia Yes Yes
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Challenges and future developments NTS
Challenges
● Reaching citizens and creating pension awareness
● Developing and operating the service whilst keeping costs under control
● Keeping it simple
● Data quality
Challenges for new NTS's
● Costs, legal issues, standards, compulsion, technical issues, etc. Etc.
Developments
● Staying aligned with pension legislation (e.g pensionable age)
● Including more products (survivors pension, private pension savings, etc.)
● Including scenario's (early or late retirement) and projections
● Other, like facilitating value transfer, creating an API, showing uncertainties in pension outcomes.
● Plans for building an NTS in UK, Germany, Czech Republic, Croatia, Luxemburg
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Easy access topension information? FI
UK
AT
SE
NO
PL
DE
IE
FR
ES
PT
NL
BE
CH
DK
SIHR
CZLU
LT
LV
SK
BG
NTS – time to find info < 15 min
No NTS – time to find info < 15 min
NTS – time to find info between 15 min & 60 min
No NTS – time to find info between15 min & 60 min
No NTS – time to find info > 60 min
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Evaluation of the pension communication
Satisfaction with personal pension information in your country
Towards citizens (average across European countries)
Towards EU mobile workers (average across European countries)
4,86,0
Issues:• Only national language(s)• Identification and authentication• Dependence on state pension in
other countries• Only national entitlements
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Interview Session.Development of new National TrackingFacilities/Services on Pensions: State of play in Germany and Croatia
●Lena Michler,
German Federal Ministry of Labour and Social Affairs
●Vanda Crnjac Paukovic,
Croatian Pension Insurance Institute
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Panel Discussion:New labour market trends and digitalcommunication on pensions: Expectations from the ETS.
● Stavros Skouras,
Researcher at University of Bergen, Norway
● Simon Benhöfer,
Welcome Centre – University of Bonn, Germany
● Werner Buelen,
European Federation of Building and Woodworkers - EFBWW
● Prof. Anouk Bollen,
ITEM, University of Maastricht
Moderator: Michel de Jonge, PGGM #ETS2019
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Closing Remarks
●Steven Janssen,
Sigedis, ETS Consortium Member
#ETS2019
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#ETS2019
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With financial
support from the
European Union
#ETS2019
Drinks17:30 - ...
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FindYourPension.euIs a cross-border platformFor pension rightsOf European citizins.It´s safe, fast …And as easy as 1-2-3.
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How it works …
FindYourPension.eu does not only store all your pensionrelated files in one place, but it lets you access all these datafrom your iOS device, Mac, and Windows PC, and then keepthose files and folders up-to-date across all your devices.
As easy as 1-2-3.
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`Every European cross-border workerneeds to have a quick insight in hispension situation. It is our ambitionto make that happen´
Conclusion of the pilot project TTYPE
As easy as 1-2-3.