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    The Flat Earth Koran

    12 of 13 Koran Science & Cosmology

    (Part 3)

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    An interpretation of the Cosmology of

    the Koran & a critique of Islamic

    Fundamentalism

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    Classification of the types of Scientific

    Miracles said to be found in the Koran

    There are perhaps about

    100 120 different alleged

    Scientific Miracles in the

    Koran, according to Islamic

    Fundamentalists.

    They appear to fall into the

    categories in this chart.

    These Presentations will

    focus on the allegedrelating to Astronomy,

    Cosmology & the Physical

    Sciences.

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    Section 3 Islam & the Earth

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    Claims about the Earth and Moon

    All these things and more are supposedly referred to in the Koran,

    but these claims are all false, as this presentation will show.

    32) Earth a rotating sphere

    33) Egg shaped Earth

    34) Spherical Earth

    35) Earths rotation

    36) 7 Atmospheric layers37) Thin air at altitude

    38) Protective Atmosphere

    39) More on Atmosphere

    40) Atmospheric depletion41) Ozone layer

    42) Mountains & stability

    43) Lowest point on Earth

    44) Earths Crust

    45) 7 layers of Crust

    46) Continental Drift47) The 2 Seas (HY)

    48) The 2 Seas (MB)

    49) Mid Ocean ridges

    50) Darkness underwater

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    Claim 32 The Koran implies thatthe Earth is Spherical & rotating

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    Claim 32 Earth is Spherical & rotating

    "Hast thou not seen how God

    merges the night into the day

    & merges the day into the night."

    Surah 31:29 Bucaille

    ". . . He coils the night upon the

    day and he coils the day upon

    the night."

    Surah 39:5 Bucaille& Harun Yahya

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    Claim 32 Earth is

    Spherical & rotating

    1. According to this claim, the Koran alluded to the Earth being a

    sphere and rotating 1400 years ago.

    2. Such information it is aid, was not known until the C16th AD

    when Magellan circumnavigated the Earth and Copernicus

    proposed his Heliocentric theory.

    3. The Koran is thus said to have been 900 years ahead of its

    time.

    4. Many Muslims claims that the existence of such information in

    the Koran in the C7th AD can only be explained by accepting a

    Divine origin of the Koran and the truth of Islam.

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    Magellan and Copernicus

    LHS: Magellan (top) & Copernicus (bottom)

    Some Muslims like to claims that the Koran

    foretold the Earth is a sphere in the C7th,

    thus proving its Divine origin.

    According to these claims, nobody knewthat the World was a sphere until 1522

    when the survivors of Ferdinand Magellan's

    expedition arrived back in Spain after

    sailing around the World.

    It is also claimed by some that nobody knewof the Earths rotation every 24 hours until

    Copernicus published his Heliocentric theory

    in 1543.

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    Surah 31:29Checking the translation 1

    Pickthall Hast thou not seen how Allah causeth the night to pass into

    the day and causeth the day to pass into the night, and hath subdued

    the Sun and the Moon. (to do their work)

    Yusuf Ali Seest thou not that God merges night into day and he merges

    day into night; that he has subjected the Sun, and the Moon. (to his law)

    Hilali-Khan See you not (O Muhammad SAW) that Allah merges the

    night into the day (i.e. the decrease in the hours of the night are added in

    the hours of the day), and merges the day into the night (i.e. the

    decrease in the hours of day are added in the hours of night), and has

    subjected the Sun and the Moon.

    Shakir Do you not see that Allah makes the night to enter into the day,and he makes the day to enter into the night, and He has made the Sun

    and the Moon subservient. (to you)

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    Surah 31:29Checking the translation 2

    Sher Ali Seest thou not that Allah makes the night pass into the day

    and makes the day pass into the night, and he has pressed the Sun

    and the Moon into service.

    Khalifa Do you not realize that God merges the night into the day

    and merges the day into the night, and that he has committed theSun and the Moon in your service.

    Arberry Hast thou not seen how that God makes the night to enter

    into the day and makes the day to enter into the night. and he has

    Palmer Dost thou not see that God joins on the night to the day,

    and joins on the day to the night, and has subjected the Sun and theMoon.

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    Surah 31:29Checking the translation 3

    Rodwell Seest thou not that God causeth the night to come in upon

    the day, and the day to come in upon the night? and that he hath

    subjected the Sun and the Moon

    Sale Dost thou not see that God causeth the night to succeed the

    day, and causeth the day to succeed the night, and compelleth the

    Sun and the Moon to serve [you]?Irving Have you not seen how God wraps night up in daylight and

    wraps daylight up in night? He regulates the Sun and Moon.

    Dawood Do you not see how God causes the night to pass into the

    day and the day to pass into the night?He has pressed the Sun and

    the Moon into his service.

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    Surah 39:5Checking the translation 1

    Pickthall He hath created the Heavens and the Earth with truth. He

    maketh night to succeed day, and He maketh day to succeed night,

    and He constraineth the Sun and the Moon to give service.

    Yusuf Ali He created the Heavens and the Earth in true (proportions):

    He makes the Night overlap the Day, and the Day overlap the Night:He has subjected the Sun and the Moon. (to His law)

    Hilali-Khan He has created the Heavens and the Earth with truth. He

    makes the night to go in the day and makes the day to go in the night.

    Shakir He has created the Heavens and the Earth with the truth; He

    makes the night cover the day and makes the day overtake the night,

    and He has made the Sun and the Moon subservient.

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    Surah 39:5Checking the translation 2

    Sher Ali He created the Heavens and the Earth in accordance with therequirements of wisdom. He makes the night to cover the day, and He

    makes the day to cover the night; and he has pressed the Sun and the

    Moon into service.

    Khalifa He created the Heavens and the Earth truthfully. He rolls the

    night over the day, and rolls the day over the night. He committed the Sunand the Moon.

    Rodwell For truth hath he created the Heavens and the Earth: It is of him

    that the night returneth upon the day and that the day returneth upon the

    night: and he controlleth the Sun and the Moon.

    Sale He hath created the Heavens and the Earth with truth: He causeththe night to succeed the day, and he causeth the day to succeed the

    night, and he obligeth the Sun and the Moon to perform their services.

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    Surah 39:5Checking the translation 3

    Rodwell For truth hath he created the Heavens and the Earth: It isof him that the night returneth upon the day and that the day

    returneth upon the night: and He controlleth the Sun and the Moon.

    Sale He hath created the Heavens and the Earth with truth: He

    causeth the night to succeed the day, and he causeth the day to

    succeed the night, and he obligeth the Sun and the Moon toperform their services.

    Irving He has created Heaven and Earth for truth. He wraps night

    up in daytime, and wraps daytime up in night. He regulates the Sun

    and Moon.

    Dawood It was to reveal the truth that he created the Heavens andthe Earth. He caused the night to succeed the day and the day to

    overtake the night. He made the Sun and the Moon obedient to

    him.

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    Response to Claim 32 (Surah 31:29/39:5)

    1. Its is not true to claim that the spherical shape of the Earth was

    unknown in the C7th AD.

    2. The ancient Greeks proposed that the Earth was a sphere in the

    C6th BC.All educated Greeks and Romans after around 300 BC

    were aware of the true shape of the Earth.Educated people in

    Europe and the Middle East never lost this knowledge.

    3. However, Surahs 31:29 & 39:5 do not imply that the Earth must

    be a sphere.

    4. All that these verses are saying that the hours of light gradually

    decrease during the evening and gradually increase in the

    morning.The Koran is saying that daylight does not suddenly

    switch on & off like a light bulb.

    5. Even on a Flat Earth with a moving Sun this would still occur.

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    Discovery of the Spherical Earth

    The Ancient Greek

    Philosopher, Pythagoras

    (570BC - 490 BC) proposed

    that the Earth was a sphere

    2500 years ago

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    Aristotle and the Spherical Earth

    The Ancient Greek

    Philosopher, Aristotle

    (384 BC 322 BC)

    popularised the idea that

    that the Earth was a sphere

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    Eratosthenes and the Spherical Earth

    The Philosopher, Eratosthenes

    (276 BC-194 BC)

    worked out a method toaccurately measure the size

    of the Earth.

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    Crates and the Spherical Earth

    Left: Modern interpretation

    of an Ancient Greek Globe.

    The Philosopher,

    Crates of Mallus(Second Century BC)

    is said to have constructed

    a Globe to show the

    whole World.

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    Ptolemy and the

    Spherical Earth

    Around AD150, the Greek Philosopher Ptolemy summarised the work

    of many earlier Greek Scientists.Ptolemy imagined a spherical Earth

    fixed in the centre of the Universe with the Sun and Planets moving

    around it.

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    Try this

    Experiment

    If you try this experiment

    in a dark room and move

    the candle around the

    table, the light levels onthe tables surface will

    gradually increase

    and decrease just like

    night & day.

    The Earth does not have

    to be a sphere for this

    to occur.

    Table representing the

    Flat Earth of the Koran.

    Candle representing

    the Sun

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    The Sun & Earth according to the Koran

    Setting Place Rising Place

    Flat Earth Like the surface of a table

    The Sun is just a little

    light moving in the Sky

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    Claim 32 (Surah 31:29 / 39:5) - Conclusion

    1. There is nothing remarkable about somebody in the C7th AD

    knowing that the Earth was a sphere.

    2. However, the Koran does not imply that the Earth is a sphere.

    3. All these verses say is that daylight increases in the morning and

    decreases during the night.4. This gradual change does not necessarily imply that the Earth is a

    sphere.

    5. Even though educated people in Mohammed's time knew that the

    Earth was a Sphere, there is no evidence that the author of the

    Koran knew this.6. This implies that the Koran is a human work written by a poorly

    educated person such as Mohammed or his followers.

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    Claim 33 The Koran says that

    the Earth is Egg Shaped

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    Claim 33 Egg Shaped Earth

    After that He smoothed out

    the Earth. (in a circle)

    Surah 79:30 Harun Yahya

    The Earth is not a perfect

    sphere and according to

    some Muslims, this is

    alluded to in the Koran.

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    Claim 33 Earth is Egg Shaped

    1. According to this claim, the Koran alluded to the Earth not onlybeing a sphere 1400 years ago, but it also alluded to the Earth

    being slightly Egg Shaped due to differing Polar and Equatorial

    diameters.

    3. This information was not known until centuries later it isclaimed.

    5. How, we are asked could Mohammed have known this if God

    had not told him?

    7. Supporters of this claim say that this information in the Koran

    proves its divine origin and the truth of Islam.

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    Surah 79:30 Checking the translation

    Pickthall And after that He spread the Earth.

    Yusuf Ali And the Earth, moreover, hath He extended. (to a wide

    expanse)

    Hilali-Khan And after that He spread the Earth.

    Shakir And the Earth, He expanded it after that.

    Sher Ali And the Earth, along with it, He has spread forth.Khalifa He made the Earth egg-shaped.

    Arberry And the Earth-after that He spread it out.

    Palmer And the Earth after that He did stretch out.

    Rodwell And afterwards stretched forth the Earth.

    Sale After his he stretched out the Earth.Irving And the Earth has He spread out besides.

    Dawood After that he spread the Earth.

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    Surah 79:30 Egg shaped Earth?

    He made the Earth eggshaped- Khalifa

    Some say that this verse

    describes the Earth as a sphere.

    There is said to be an allusionto an ostrich egg which is

    supposedly spherical.

    But this is not an accurate

    translation since eleven othertranslations contradict it.

    Besides this,the Earth is not

    egg shaped.

    Non Spherical Ostrich Egg

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    Surah 79:26-31 In context

    Lo! herein is indeed a lesson for him who fearethAre ye the harder to create, or is the Heaven that He built?

    He raised the height thereof and ordered it; and He made dark

    the night thereof, and He brought forth the morn thereof.

    And after that He spread the Earth,

    And produced therefrom the water thereof and the pasturethereof

    Surah 79:26-31- Pickthall

    Viewed in context, verse 30 is part of a description of God creating

    the Universe.Firstly, God created Heaven or the Sky and then liftedit up like a roof of a building. Next, he spread out Earth like a

    flat floor.

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    Claim 33 Egg Shaped Earth

    In reality, the Earth, while not

    being a perfect sphere is so

    close to being one that

    the deviation cannot be seen.

    Even if you were in Outer

    Space & looking back at the

    Earth, it would look like

    a perfect sphere.

    The Earth is nothing like the

    shape of an Egg.

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    Claim 33 (Surah 79:30) - Conclusion

    1. The Koran does not say that the Earth is Egg shaped.Such claims

    are based on an inaccurate translation.

    3. Even if the Koran did say that the Earth was Egg shaped, it would

    be wrong.The Earths shape is nothing like an Egg.

    5. This is an example of some Muslims rewriting verse of the Koran

    in order to fabricate evidence to support their Religion.

    7. This claim is a fraud whatever way you look at it.

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    Claim 34 The Koran implies

    that the Earth is a Sphere

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    He is Lord of the two East's & Lord of the

    two West's.

    Surah 55:17

    Claim 34 Two East's and two West's

    indicate a spherical Earth

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    Claim 34 Two East's and two West's

    1. According to this claim, the Koran alluded to the Earth being asphere 1400 years ago.

    2. When we observe the Sun setting in the West, a person on theother side of the Earth will observe it rising in the East.

    3. When we observe the Sun rising in the East, a person on theother side of the Earth would observe it setting in the West.

    4. Thus, there are said to be two East's and two West's alluding toobservers on opposite sides of a spherical Earth.

    5. This information was not known until centuries later it isclaimed.

    6. How, we are asked could Mohammed have known this if Godhad not told him?

    7. Supporters of this claim say that this information in the Koranproves its Divine origin and the truth of Islam.

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    Surah 55:17 Checking the translation

    Pickthall Lord of the two East's, and Lord of the two West's!Yusuf Ali (He is) Lord of the two East's and Lord of the two West's.

    Hilali-Khan (He is) the Lord of the two East's (places of sunrise during

    early summer and early winter) and the Lord of the two West's (places of

    sunset during early summer and early winter).

    Shakir Lord of the East and Lord of the West.Sher Ali The Lord of the two East's and the Lord of the two West's.

    Khalifa Lord of the two East's and the two West's.

    Arberry Lord of the two East's, Lord of the two West's.

    Palmer The Lord of the two East's and the Lord of the two West's!

    Rodwell He is the Lord of the East, he is the Lord of the West.

    Sale [He is] the Lord of the East, and the Lord of the West.

    Irving Lord of both East's and Lord of both West's!

    Dawood The lord of the two Easts is he and the Lord of the two

    West's.

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    What the two

    East's & two

    West's really

    mean

    The 2 Easts

    The 2 Wests

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    Heraclius and Chosroes

    Left: A Medieval

    representation of the

    Byzantine Emperor,

    Heraclius (RHS) defeating

    the Persian EmperorChroses (LHS) in a battle

    during the lifetime of

    Mohammed.

    Both men would almostcertainly known that the

    Earth was a sphere.

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    Surah 55:17 The 2 East's & 2 West's

    This is probably how

    Mohammed envisaged

    the two Easts and the

    two WestsThe 2 Wests The 2 Easts

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    Claim 34 (Surah 55:17) - Conclusion

    1. The references to two Easts and two West's does not imply

    that the Earth is spherical.

    3. Even if it did, there is nothing remarkable about such knowledge,

    since it was known in the time of Mohammed.

    5. The author of the Koran does not seem to know that the Earth is a

    sphere despite this.

    7. This is just another example of desperate Islamic Fundamentalistsgrasping at straws to find evidence to support heir Religious

    beliefs.

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    Claim 35: The Koran refers to

    the rotation of the Earth

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    Claim 35 Rotation of the Earth

    You will see the mountains and

    reckon them to be solid; but they go

    past like clouds-the handiwork ofAllah who gives to everything its

    solidity. He is aware of what

    you do.

    Surah 27:88 Harun Yahya

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    Surah 27:88 Rotation of the Earth

    1. According to this claim, the Koran alludes to the Earthsrotation over 900 years before Copernicus proposed it in1543.

    2. The reference to mountains passing is said to refer to

    mountains on the Earths surface moving around with theEarth as it rotates.

    3. How, we are asked, could Mohammed have known suchinformation unless he received it from God?

    4. Thus, we are told, the Koran has been proven to be of Divine

    origin and Islam is true.5. However, this is all nonsense.

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    Aristarchus

    of Samos

    Copernicus was not the first person to propose

    That the Earth rotated. Aristarchus of Samos

    (310 BC ca. 230 BC) proposed this 2300

    years ago but his ideas were not accepted.

    However, this is not what the Koran is referring

    to.

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    Surah 27:88 Checking the translation 1

    Pickthall And thou seest the hills thou deemest solid flying with theflight of clouds:

    Yusuf Ali Thou seest the mountains and thinkest them firmly fixed:

    but they shall pass away as the clouds pass away:

    Hilali-Khan And you will see the mountains and think them solid, but

    they shall pass away as the passing away of the clouds.Shakir And you see the mountains, you think them to be solid, and

    they shall pass away as the passing away of the cloud

    Sher Ali And thou seest the mountains, which thou thinkest to be

    firmly fixed, pass away as the clouds pass away

    Khalifa When you look at the mountains, you think that they arestanding still. But they are moving, like the clouds.

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    Surah 27:88 Checking the translation 2

    Arberry And thou shalt see the mountains, that thou supposest fixed,

    passing by like clouds

    Palmer And thou shalt see the mountains, which thou dost deem

    solid, pass away like the passing of the clouds

    Rodwell And thou shalt see the mountains, which thou thinkest so

    firm, pass away with the passing of a cloud!Sale And thou shalt see the mountains, and shalt think them firmly

    fixed; but they shall pass away, even as the clouds pass away.

    Irving You will see the mountains, which you reckoned were solid,

    slip away just as clouds slip away.

    Dawood The mountains, firm though you might think them, will passaway like clouds.

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    Surah 27:88 God causes the Mountains

    to pass away on Judgment Day

    This is what the passing

    of mountains means.

    The Koran says that the

    mountains will be removedby God at the End of the

    World.

    This has nothing to do with

    mountains actually moving

    in the present day.

    See also: Surah 18:47 &

    Surah 84:1-4

    With Mountains

    Without Mountains

    Level Plain = Flat Earth

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    Surah 18:47 God will cause the Mountains

    to pass away on Judgment Day

    Pickthall And (bethink you of) the Day when we remove the hills and

    ye see the Earth emerging, and We gather them together so as to

    leave not one of them behind.

    Yusuf Ali One Day We shall remove the mountains, and thou wilt see

    the Earth as a level stretch, and We shall gather them, all together, nor

    shall We leave out any one of them.

    Hilali-Khan And (remember) the Day We shall cause the mountains to

    pass away (like clouds of dust), and you will see the Earth as a levelled

    plain, and we shall gather them all together so as to leave not one of

    them behind.

    Shakir And the day on which We will cause the mountains to passaway and you will see the Earth a levelled plain and We will gather

    them and leave not any one of them behind.

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    Surah 18:47 Continued

    Sher Ali And bethink of the day when we shall remove the mountainsand thou wilt see the nations of the Earth march forth against one

    another and we shall gather them all together and shall not leave any

    one of them behind.

    Khalifa The day will come when we wipe out the mountains, and you

    will see the Earth barren. We will summon them all, not leaving out asingle one of them.

    Arberry And on the day We shall set the mountains in motion, and

    thou seest the Earth coming forth, and We muster them so that We

    leave not so much as one of them behind.

    Palmer And the day when we will move the mountains, and thou

    shalt see the (whole) Earth stalking forth; and we will gather them,

    and will not leave one of them behind.

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    Surah 18:47 Continued

    Rodwell And call to mind the day when we will cause the mountains topass away, and thou shalt see the Earth a levelled plain, and we will

    gather mankind together, and not leave of them any one.

    Sale On a [certain] day we will cause the mountains to pass away,

    and thou shalt see the Earth appearing plain [and even]; and we will

    gather [mankind] together, and we will not leave any one of thembehind

    Irving Some day We shall set the mountains travelling along and you

    will see the Earth lying exposed

    Dawood Tell of the day when we shall blot out the mountains and

    make Earth a barren waste.

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    Claim 35 (Surah 27:38) - Conclusion

    The Ancient Greek Philosopher Aristarchus proposed that theEarth rotates in the C3rd BC, 900 years before Mohammed and1700 years before Copernicus.

    However, the Koran does not refer to the Earths rotation.Thereferences to the mountains passing refers to them passing

    away (being removed) and not passing by. This verse refers to God removing the Earths Mountains at the

    End of the World sometime in the future and not in the presentday.

    Interpreting this verse as a supposed reference to the Earthsrotation is based on taking it out of context and distorting themeaning.

    This is another example of distorting the Koran to support extremeReligious beliefs.

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    Claim 36 The Koran correctly says

    that there are seven layers in theEarths atmosphere

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    Claim 36 Seven Layers

    of the Atmosphere

    According to this claim, the Koran referred to

    the existence of seven layers in the Earths

    atmosphere 1400 years ago when it speaks of

    Seven Heavens

    These layers were only discovered in the C20th.

    How, we are asked, could Mohammed have

    known this 1400 years before modern science,

    unless God had told him?

    According to this claim, such scientificfore-knowledge proves the Divine authorship

    of the Koran.

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    Claim 36 Seven Layers of the

    Atmosphere

    It is He Who created everything on the Earth for you and then directedHis attention up to Heaven and arranged it into seven regular Heavens.

    He has knowledge of all things. Surah 2:29 Harun Yahya

    Then He turned to Heaven when it was smoke. In two days He

    determined them as seven heavens and revealed, in every heaven, itsown mandate. Surah 41:11-12 Harun Yahya

    He Who created the seven Heavens in layers

    Surah 67:3 Harun Yahya

    Do you not see how He created seven Heavens in layers?

    Surah 71:15 Harun Yahya

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    Response to Claim 36 (Multiple Surahs)

    1. The Seven Heavens of the Koran cannot possibly be areference to the layers of the atmosphere since this would

    contradict Surah 37:6 which says that the Stars are in the lowest

    of the Seven Heavens & only a few miles away. This is nonsense.

    3. According to the Koran and Hadith, the Seven Heavens arewhere God and his Angels live.Good Muslims go there when they

    die.

    5. The Sky above our heads is the floor of the lowest level of the

    Seven Heavens.

    7. Each Heaven is associated with a particular Prophet and God is

    above the Seventh or highest Heaven.

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    Surah 37:6 Stars in Lowest Heaven

    According to theKoran, the Stars

    are just little

    lights attached to

    lowest Heaven.

    If the Seven

    Heavens refer to

    the Atmosphere,

    then the Stars are

    only a few milesaway. This is

    absurd.

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    Surah 37:6 Stars in Lowest Heaven

    Pickthall Lo! We have adorned the lowest Heaven with an ornament,the planets.

    Yusuf Ali We have indeed decked the lower Heaven with beauty (in) the

    stars.

    Hilali-Khan Verily! We have adorned the near Heaven with the stars (for

    beauty).Shakir Surely We have adorned the nearest Heaven with an adornment,

    the stars.

    Sher Ali We have adorned the lowest Heaven with an adornment - the

    Khalifa We have adorned the lowest Heaven with adorning planets.

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    Surah 37:6 Continued

    Arberry We have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment of theStars.

    Palmer Verily, we have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment

    of the Stars.

    Rodwell We have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment of the

    Stars.Sale We have adorned the lower Heaven with the ornament of the

    Stars.

    Irving We have beautified the worldly Sky with the splendour of Stars .

    Dawood We have decked the lower Heaven with Constellations.

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    Surah 17:1

    Mohammed in the

    Seven Heavens

    1

    7

    6

    5

    4

    3

    2

    This traditional Islamic

    painting shows Mohammed

    visiting the seven Heavenswhich are up in the Sky

    These are portrayed as seven

    solid layers in the Sky where

    good Muslims go when they

    die.The Hadith and Koransupport this view of seven

    Heavens

    Mohammed ascends to the 7 Heavens

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    Mohammed ascends to the 7 Heavens

    Al-Bukhari Volume 4 Book 54 Number 429

    Al-Buraq, a white animal, smaller than a mule and bigger than a donkey was

    brought to me and I set out with Gabriel. When I reached the nearest heaven.

    Gabriel said to the heaven gate-keeper, 'Open the gate.' The gatekeeper asked,

    'Who is it?' He said, 'Gabriel.' The gate-keeper,' Who is accompanying you?'

    Gabriel said, 'Muhammad.' The gate-keeper said, 'Has he been called?' Gabriel

    said, 'Yes.' Then it was said, 'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit his is!' Then I

    met Adam and greeted him and he said, 'You are welcomed O son and a Prophet.'

    Then we ascended to the second heaven. It was asked, 'Who is it?' Gabriel said,

    'Gabriel.' It was said, 'Who is with you?' He said, 'Muhammad' It was asked, 'Has

    he been sent for?' He said, 'Yes.' It was said, 'He is welcomed. What a wonderful

    visit his is!" Then I met Jesus and Yahya (John) who said, 'You are welcomed, O

    brother and a Prophet.'

    Then we ascended to the third heaven. It was asked, 'Who is it?' Gabriel said,'Gabriel.' It was asked, 'Who is with you? Gabriel said, 'Muhammad.' It was asked,

    'Has he been sent for?' 'Yes,' said Gabriel. 'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit

    his is!' (The Prophet added:). There I met Joseph and greeted him, and he replied,

    'You are welcomed, O brother and a Prophet!' (Continued on next slide)

    M h d d t th 7 H

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    Mohammed ascends to the 7 Heavens

    Al-Bukhari Volume 4 Book 54 Number 429 (Continued from previous slide)

    Then we ascended to the 4th heaven and again the same questions andanswers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met Idris and

    greeted him. He said, 'You are welcomed O brother and Prophet.'

    Then we ascended to the 5th heaven and again the same questions and

    answers were exchanged as in previous heavens. there I met and greeted

    Aaron who said, 'You are welcomed O brother and a Prophet".

    Then we ascended to the 6th heaven and again the same questions and

    answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met and greeted

    Moses who said, 'You are welcomed O brother and. a Prophet.' When I

    proceeded on, he started weeping and on being asked why he was weeping, he

    said, 'O Lord! Followers of this youth who was sent after me will enter Paradise

    in greater number than my followers.'

    Then we ascended to the seventh heaven and again the same questions and

    answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met and greeted

    Abraham who said, 'You are welcomed o son and a Prophet.' Then I was shown

    Al-Bait-al-Ma'mur (i.e. Allah's House).

    S H b th E th

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    Seven Heavens above the Earth

    Al-Tirmidhi 5735

    He then asked, "Do you know what is above you?" On their replying that

    Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him) knew best, he said, "It is the

    firmament, a ceiling which is guarded and waves which are kept back." He

    then asked, "Do you know what is between you and it?" On their replying

    that Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him) knew best, he said,

    "Between you and it are five hundred years." He then asked, "Do you knewwhat is above that?" On their replying that Allah and His Messenger (peace

    be upon him) best he said, "Two heavens with a distance of five hundred

    years between them." He went on speaking like that till he counted seven

    heavens, the distance between each pair being like between Heaven and

    Earth. He then asked, "Do you know what is above that?" On their replyingthat Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him) knew best, he said,

    "Above that is the Throne, and the distance between it and the (seventh)

    heaven is the same as that between each pair of heavens."

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    Names of the

    Seven Heavens

    1

    7

    6

    5

    4

    3

    2

    Number Name Description

    1st Heaven Rafi' ( ( Heaven of Adam2nd Heaven Qaydum ( ( Heaven of John

    3rd Heaven Marum () Heaven of Joseph4th Heaven Arfalun () Heaven of Idris

    5th Heaven Hay'oun () Heaven of Aaron

    6th Heaven Arous () Heaven of Moses

    7th Heaven Ajma' () Heaven of Abraham

    The Seven Heavens of Islam

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Heavens

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    Claim 36 (Multiple Surahs) - Conclusion

    1. The Seven Heavens cannot be layers of the atmosphere since thiscontradicts, the Koran,Hadith and modern Science.

    3. The Seven Heavens are mythical places in the Sky where dead

    people are supposed to be, along with God and his Angels.

    5. Instead of being in accord with modern Science, the concept of

    Seven Heavens shows the Koran to be in error and a book of

    Human origin.

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    Claim 37 The Koran correctly

    mentions how the air gets thinner withaltitude

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    Claim 37 Thin air higher up

    ...And whomever he wills

    to send astray, he makes

    his bosom narrow &

    strained as if he was

    ascending into the sky.

    Surah 6:125

    According to this claim, the

    Koran miraculously predicted

    that the air gets thinner

    with height 1000 yearsahead of modern Science.

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    Evangelista Torricelli

    The fact that the air gets thinner with

    increasing altitude was not discovered

    until AD1643 when Evangelista

    Torricelli invented the Barometer.

    Some Muslims claim that the Koran

    referred to this phenomena over

    1000 years before Torricelli.

    This is claimed to be evidence of the

    Divine origin of the Koran and the

    truth of Islam.

    R t Cl i 37 (S h 6 125)

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    Response to Claim 37 (Surah 6:125)

    1. If the Koran is aware of the air getting thinner with altitude, whydidn't Mohammed wear a Space Suit when he went up into the

    atmosphere and travelled through Outer Space?

    3. Mohammed literally ascended to Heaven.It was not a dream

    according to the Hadith. (Al-Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number228)

    5. How are Angels able to use their wings to fly around between

    Earth and Heaven if the air is so thin?

    7. How come that Muslim Scientists, rather than Torricelli invent the

    Barometer?

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    Surah 17:1

    Mohammed

    ascends to Heaven

    The Koran says that Mohammed

    ascended into Heaven on the

    back of a magical animal calledBuraq.

    However, Surah 37:6 says that

    the lowest level of Heaven

    contains the Stars & soMohammed supposedly travelled

    interstellar Space without any

    mention of a spacesuit.

    Surah17:1Mohammed ascends to Heaven

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    Surah17:1Mohammed ascends to Heaven

    Pickthall Glorified be He Who carried His servant by night from the

    Inviolable Place of Worship to the Far distant place of worship that We

    might show him of Our tokens!Yusuf Ali Glory to (God) Who did take His servant for a Journey by night

    from the Sacred Mosque to the farthest Mosque in order that We might

    show him some of Our Signs.

    Hilali-Khan Glorified (and Exalted) be He (Allah) [above all that (evil) they

    associate with Him] [Tafsir Qurtubi, Vol. 10, Page 204]Shakir Glory be to Him Who made His servant to go on a night from the

    Sacred Mosque to the remote mosque so that We may show to him

    some of Our signs.

    Sher Ali Glory be to Him who carried his servant by night from the Sacred

    Mosque to the Distant Mosque that we might show him some of oursigns.

    Khalifa Most glorified is the One who summoned His servant (Muhammad)

    during the night, from the Sacred Masjid (of Mecca) to the farthest place of

    prostration in order to show him some of our signs.

    Surah 17:1Continued

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    Surah 17:1Continued

    Arberry Glory be to Him, who carried His servant by night from the Holy

    Mosque to the Further Mosque that We might show him some of Our

    signs.Arberry Celebrated be the praises of Him who took His servant a journey

    by night from the Sacred Mosque, to the Remote Mosque to show him of

    our signs!

    Rodwell Glory be to Him who carried his servant by night from the sacred

    temple of Mecca to the temple that is more remote that we might shewhim of our signs!

    Sale Praise be unto him, who transported his servant by night, from the

    sacred temple [of Mecca] to the farther temple that we might shew him

    [some] of our signs.

    Irving Glory be to Him Who had His servant travel by night from the

    hallowed Mosque to the Further Mosque so we might show him some of

    our signs!

    Dawood Glory be to him who made his servant go by night from the

    sacred temple to the further temple that we might show him some of our

    signs.

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    Mohammed literally ascends to

    Heaven from Jerusalem (Al-Bukhari )

    Volume 5, Book 58, Number 228:

    Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:

    Regarding the Statement of Allah"

    "And We granted the vision (Ascension to the heavens) which Wemade you see (as an actual eye witness) was only made as a trial for

    the people." (17.60)

    Ibn Abbas added: The sights which Allah's Apostle was shown on the

    Night Journey when he was taken to Bait-ulMaqdis (i.e. Jerusalem)

    were actual sights, (not dreams). And the Cursed Tree (mentioned) in

    the Quran is the tree of Zaqqum (itself).

    S h 37 6 St i L t H

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    Surah 37:6 Stars in Lowest Heaven

    Pickthall Lo! We have adorned the lowest Heaven with an ornament,the planets.

    Yusuf Ali We have indeed decked the lower Heaven with beauty (in) the

    stars.

    Hilali-Khan Verily! We have adorned the near Heaven with the stars (for

    beauty).Shakir Surely We have adorned the nearest Heaven with an adornment,

    the stars.

    Sher Ali We have adorned the lowest Heaven with an adornment - the

    Khalifa We have adorned the lowest Heaven with adorning planets.

    Surah 37:6 Continued

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    Surah 37:6 Continued

    Arberry We have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment of theStars.

    Palmer Verily, we have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment

    of the Stars.

    Rodwell We have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment of the

    Stars.Sale We have adorned the lower Heaven with the ornament of the

    Stars.

    Irving We have beautified the worldly Sky with the splendour of Stars .

    Dawood We have decked the lower Heaven with Constellations.

    M h d did t S S it

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    Mohammed did not wear a Space Suit

    Surah 37:6 says that the

    Stars are in the lowest

    Heaven Outer Space.

    This means that

    Mohammed supposedlytravelled through Outer

    Space to get to Heaven

    without any Space Suit.

    This is hardly consistentwith knowing that the

    atmosphere gets thinner

    with altitude.

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    Surah 6:125 Checking the translation 1

    Pickthall And whomsoever it is Allah's will to guide, he expandeth hisbosom unto the surrender, and whomsoever it is his will to send astray,

    he maketh his bosom close and narrow as if he were engaged in sheer

    ascent.

    Yusuf Ali Those whom God (in his plan) willeth to guide, - he openeth

    their breast to Islam; those whom he willeth to leave straying, - he makeththeir breast close and constricted, as if they had to climb up to the skies.

    Hilali-Khan And whomsoever Allah wills to guide, he opens his breast to

    Islam, and whomsoever he wills to send astray, he makes his breast

    closed and constricted, as if he is climbing up to the sky.

    Shakir Therefore (for) whomsoever Allah intends that he would guide

    him aright, he expands his breast for Islam, and (for) whomsoever he

    intends that he should cause him to err, he makes his breast strait and

    narrow as though he were ascending upwards.

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    Surah 6:125 Checking the translation 2

    Sher Ali So, whomsoever Allah intends to guide, he expands his bosom

    for the acceptance of Islam; and whomsoever he intends that he should

    go astray, he makes his bosom narrow and close, as though he was

    mounting up into the skies.

    Khalifa Whomever God wills to guide, he renders his chest wide open to

    Submission. And whomever he wills to send astray, he renders his chestintolerant and straitened, like one who climbs towards the sky.

    Arberry Whomsoever God desires to guide, he expands his breast to

    Islam; whomsoever he desires to lead astray, he makes his breast

    narrow, tight, as if he were climbing to Heaven.

    Palmer Whomsoever God wishes to guide, he expands his breast toIslam; but whomsoever he wishes to lead astray, he makes his breast

    tight and straight, as though he would mount up into Heaven.

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    Surah 6:125 Checking the translation 3

    Rodwell And whom God shall please to guide, that man's breast willhe open to Islam; but whom he shall please to mislead, strait and

    narrow will he make his breast, as though he were mounting up into

    the very Heavens!

    Sale And whomsoever God shall please to direct, he will open his

    breast to [receive the faith of] Islam: But whomsoever he shall pleaseto lead into error, he will render his breast strait [and] narrow, as

    though he were climbing up to Heaven.

    Irving God lays anyone's breast open to Islam whom He wants to

    guide, while He makes the breast of anyone He wants to be led astray

    seem cramped, tight, just as if he were climbing up to HeavenDawood If God intends to guide a man, he opens his bosom to Islam.

    But if he pleases to confound him, he makes his bosom small and

    narrow as though he were climbing up to the Sky.

    Claim 37 (Surah 6:125) Conclusion

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    Claim 37 (Surah 6:125) - Conclusion

    1. The story of Mohammed ascending to Heaven implies that the

    Koran does not know that the air gets thinner with altitude.

    3. The reference to somebody's chest getting tighter as he climbsupwards is more likely a reference to being out of breath due to thephysical effort of climbing upwards irrespective of what the

    thickness of the air is.There is no reference to high altitude here.

    5. The reference may also be speaking of the despair in a personsheart when they contemplate trying to get to Heaven without God byclimbing up into the Sky.

    7. Either way, there is no indication in the Koran that the air getsthinner with altitude.

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    Claim 38 The Koran refers to the

    Atmosphere protecting us fromMeteors & the Solar Wind

    Claim 38 Atmosphere protects against

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    Claim 38 Atmosphere protects against

    Meteors & Solar wind

    According to Harun Yahya &

    others the Koran alludes tohow the Earths Atmosphere

    protects us against meteors &

    the Solar Wind.

    Claim 38 Atmosphere protects Earth

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    Claim 38 Atmosphere protects Earth

    from Meteors & Solar wind

    We made the sky a preserved & protected roof yet still they turn

    away from Our signs.

    Surah 21:32 Harun Yahya

    It is He Who made the Earth a couch for you, and the sky a dome. Hesends down water from the sky and by it brings forth fruits for your

    provision. Do not, then, knowingly make others equal to Allah.

    Surah 2:22 Harun Yahya

    He holds back the Heaven, preventing it from falling to the Earth-except by His permission. Allah is All-Compassionate to humanity, Most

    Merciful.

    (Qur'an, 22:65)

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    Claim 38 Atmosphere protects Earth

    from Meteors & Solar wind

    1. This claim says that the Koran miraculously referred to the

    way the Earths Atmosphere protects us from Meteors and the

    Solar Wind.

    2. The possibility of Meteors falling to Earth & the existence of

    the Solar Wind were not proposed by Scientists until the

    middle of the C19th.

    3. How, we are asked, could Mohammed have known about

    these things in the C7th AD?

    4. The only answer, we are told, is that the Koran knows of such

    things because it comes from God.

    5. This, we are told (again), proves the truth of Islam.

    S h 21 32 Ch ki th t l ti 1

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    Surah 21:32Checking the translation 1

    Pickthall And we have made the Sky a roof withheld (from them).Yet they turn away from its portents.

    Yusuf Ali And we have made the Heavens as a canopy well

    guarded: yet do they turn away from the Signs which these things

    (point to)!

    Hilali-Khan And we have made the Heaven a roof, safe and wellguarded. Yet they turn away from its signs. (i.e. sun, moon, winds,

    clouds, etc.)

    Shakir And we have made the Heaven a guarded canopy and (yet)

    they turn aside from its signs.

    Sher Ali And we have made the Heaven a roof, well-protected, yetthey turn away from its Signs.

    Khalifa And we rendered the Sky a guarded ceiling. Yet, they are

    totally oblivious to all the portents therein.

    S h 21 32 Ch ki th t l ti 2

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    Surah 21:32Checking the translation 2

    Arberry And we set up the Heaven as a roof well-protected; yet stillfrom Our signs they are turning away.

    Palmer And we made the Heaven a guarded roof; yet from our signs

    they turn aside!

    Rodwell And we made the Heaven a roof strongly upholden; yet turn

    they away from its signs.Sale And we made the Heaven a roof well supported. Yet they turn

    aside from the signs thereof, [not considering that they are the

    workmanship of [God].

    Irving We have placed the Sky as a roof which is held up even

    though they shun its signs!Dawood We spread the Heaven like a Canopy and provided it with

    strong supports : yet of its signs they are heedless!

    S h 2 22 Ch ki th t l ti 1

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    Surah 2:22 Checking the translation 1

    Pickthall Who hath appointed the Earth a resting-place for you, andthe Sky a canopy; and causeth water to pour down from the Sky.

    Yusuf Ali Who has made the Earth your couch, and the Heavens

    your canopy; and sent down rain from the Heavens.

    Hilali-Khan Who has made the Earth a resting place for you, and the

    Sky as a canopy, and sent down water (rain) from the Sky.Shakir Who made the Earth a resting place for you and the Heaven

    a canopy and (who) sends down rain from the cloud.

    Sher Ali Who made the Earth a bed for you, and the Heaven a roof,

    and caused water to come down from the clouds.

    Khalifa The one who made the Earth habitable for you, and the Skya structure. He sends down from the Sky water.

    S h 2 22 Ch ki th t l ti 2

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    Surah 2:22 Checking the translation 2

    Arberry Who assigned to you the Earth for a couch, and Heaven foran edifice, and sent down out of Heaven water.

    Palmer Who made the Earth for you a bed and the Heaven a dome;

    and sent down from Heaven water.

    Rodwell Who hath made the Earth a bed for you, and the Heaven a

    covering, and hath caused water to come down from Heaven.Sale Who hath spread the Earth as a bed for you, and the Heaven

    as a covering, and hath caused water to descend from Heaven.

    Irving [He is] the one who has made the Earth a carpet for you and

    had the Sky built above you, and sent water to pour down from the

    Sky.Dawood Who has made the Earth a bed for you and the Sky a dome

    and has sent down water from the Sky.

    S h 22 65 Ch ki th t l ti 1

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    Surah 22:65 Checking the translation 1

    Pickthall And he holdeth back the Heaven from falling on the Earth

    unless by his leave. Lo! Allah is, for mankind, full of pity, merciful.

    Yusuf Ali He withholds the sky (rain) from falling on the earth except by

    his leave: for God is most kind and most merciful to man.

    Hilali-Khan He withholds the Heaven from falling on the Earth except by

    his Leave. Verily, Allah is, for mankind, full of kindness, most merciful.

    Shakir And he withholds the Heaven from falling on the Earth exceptwith his permission; most surely Allah is compassionate, merciful to

    men.

    Sher Ali And he holds back the Heaven lest it should fall on the Earth

    save by his leave. Surely, Allah is compassionate and merciful to

    people.Khalifa He prevents the Heavenly bodies from crashing onto the Earth,

    except in accordance with his command. God is most kind towards the

    people, most merciful.

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    Imam Ali battles

    the Evil Djinn

    Ali was the Son in law

    & Cousin of Mohammed.

    He is highly revered by

    Shia Muslims.

    According to the Koran, one

    of the main purposes of

    the Stars is for use as

    ammunition by Angels.

    when Djinn try and climb upto Heaven, the Angels

    throw Stars at them.

    Stars are little lights on the floor of

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    Stars are little lights on the floor of

    Heaven according to the Koran

    The Koran impliesthat Heaven is a

    place up in the Sky

    above the Stars

    Surah 67:5 Stars used as missiles for

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    driving off Devils from Heaven

    Pickthall & verily We have beautified the world's Heaven with lamps, & Wehave made them missiles for the devils.

    Yusuf Ali & we have, (from of old), adorned the lowest Heaven with Lamps,

    & We have made such (Lamps) (as) missiles to drive away the Evil Ones.

    Hilali-Khan & indeed We have adorned the nearest Heaven with lamps, &

    We have made such lamps (as) missiles to drive away the Shayatin. (devils)Shakir & certainly We have adorned this lower Heaven with lamps & We

    have made these missiles for the Shaitans.

    Sher Ali & verily, We have adorned the lowest Heaven with lamps, and We

    have made them the means of driving away satans.

    Khalifa We adorned the lowest Universe with lamps, and guarded its

    borders with projectiles against the devils.

    More biased translation by Khalifa.He is out of step with the other11

    translations.He has inaccurately translated Heaven as Universe.

    Surah 67:5 Continued

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    Surah 67:5 Continued

    Arberry And We adorned the lower Heaven with lamps, and made themthings to stone Satans.

    Palmer And we have adorned the lower Heaven with lamps; and set

    them to pelt the devils with.

    Rodwell Moreover we have decked the lowest Heaven with lights, and

    have placed them there to be hurled at the Satan.Sale Moreover we have adorned the lowest Heaven with lamps, and

    have appointed them to be darted at the devils.

    Irving We have decorated the nearest Sky with lamps. We have placed

    them as missiles directed towards the devils.

    Dawood We have adorned the lowest Heaven with lamps, missiles topelt the devils with.

    Surah 72:8-10 Meteors thrown at Djinn

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    Surah 72:8 10 Meteors thrown at Djinn

    Pickthall And (the Jinn who had listened to the Qur'an said): We had sought the

    Heaven but had found it filled with strong warders and meteors But he wholisteneth now findeth a flame in wait for him.

    Yusuf Ali 'And we pried into the secrets of Heaven; but we found it filled with

    stern guards and flaming fires but any who listen now will find a flaming fire

    watching him in ambush.

    Hilali-Khan 'And we have sought to reach the Heaven; but found it filled with

    stern guards and flaming fires but any who listens now will find a flaming firewatching him in ambush.

    Shakir And that we sought to reach Heaven, but we found it filled with strong

    guards and flaming stars but he who would (try to) listen now would find a

    flame lying in wait for him.

    Sher Ali `And we sought to reach Heaven, but we found it filled with strong

    guards and shooting stars But whoso listens now finds a shooting star inambush for him.

    Khalifa `We touched the Heaven and found it filled with formidable guards and

    projectiles Anyone who listens is pursued by a powerful projectile.

    Surah 72:8-10 Continued

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    Surah 72:8 10 Continued

    Arberry And we stretched towards Heaven, but we found it filled with terrible

    guards and meteors but any listening now finds a meteor in wait for him.Palmer "'But we touched the Heavens and found them filled with a mighty guard

    and shooting-stars but whoso of us listens now finds a shooting-star for him

    Rodwell And the Heavens did we essay, but found them filled with a mighty

    garrison, and with flaming darts but whoever listeneth findeth an ambush

    ready for him of flaming darts.

    Sale And we [formerly] attempted [to pry into what was transacting in] Heaven;but we found the same filled with a strong guard [of angels], and with flaming

    darts but whoever listeneth now, findeth a flame laid in ambush for him, [to

    guard the celestial confines].

    Irving We reached out for Heaven and found it staffed with stern guards and

    shooting stars though anyone who eavesdrops now finds a shooting star

    lurking there for him.Dawood We made our way to the high Heaven and found it filled with mighty

    wardens and fiery comets . but eavesdroppers find comets lying in wait for

    them.

    Angels guarding

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    Angels guarding

    Heaven against

    the Evil Djinn

    Angels guard Heaven against

    the Evil Djinn who try to climbup to it.

    The Koran says that Meteors

    are Stars that Angels use

    as missiles to throw atthe Djinn.

    The Sky is described as a Barrier to

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    The Sky is described as a Barrier to

    control the Djinn

    Many verses of

    the Koran

    describe the Sky

    as being barrier

    to prevent the

    Djinn or Genies

    from climbing

    up to Heaven.

    This suggests

    a belief in a solidSky.

    Barrier of the Sky

    Keeping the Djinn out of Heaven

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    p g j

    According to the Koran, one of the functions of the Sky is to act as

    a barrier to keep the Djinn from climbing up to Heaven. This implies

    that the Sky is solid.

    DjinnDjinn

    Djinn

    Heaven

    Earth

    Solid Barrier

    Surah 37:6 Stars attached to firmament

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    Surah 37:6 Stars attached to firmament

    According to the

    Koran, the Stars

    are just little

    lights attached to

    the solid Sky.

    Surah 81:1-2 says

    that the Stars

    will eventually fall

    to the ground.

    Surah 37:6 Stars embedded in Firmament

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    Surah 37:6 Stars embedded in Firmament

    Pickthall Lo! We have adorned the lowest Heaven with an ornament,the planets.

    Yusuf Ali We have indeed decked the lower Heaven with beauty (in) the

    stars.

    Hilali-Khan Verily! We have adorned the near Heaven with the stars (for

    beauty).Shakir Surely We have adorned the nearest Heaven with an adornment,

    the stars.

    Sher Ali We have adorned the lowest Heaven with an adornment - the

    Khalifa We have adorned the lowest Heaven with adorning planets.

    Surah 37:6 Continued

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    Arberry We have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment of theStars.

    Palmer Verily, we have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment

    of the Stars.

    Rodwell We have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment of the

    Stars.

    Sale We have adorned the lower Heaven with the ornament of the

    Stars.

    Irving We have beautified the worldly Sky with the splendour of Stars .

    Dawood We have decked the lower Heaven with Constellations.

    Surah 22:65 The Sky might fall 1

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    Surah 22:65 The Sky might fall 1

    The Koran refers to the

    possibility of the Sky falling.

    This implies a belief in a

    solid Sky or Firmament.

    Such a belief is similar toof the story of Chicken

    Little.

    Surah 22:65 The Sky might fall 2

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    Surah 22:65 The Sky might fall 2

    Left: Chicken

    Little after being

    struck by a piece

    of the Sky that

    has fallen down.

    The Koran

    implies that the

    Sky is solid & that

    this is a very

    real possibility.

    Claim 38 (Multiple Surahs) - Conclusion

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    ( p )

    1. The Koran does not understand what Meteors are and does notrefer to the Solar wind.

    2. The Koran says that the Sky is a solid Dome and that the Stars

    are little lights imbedded in it.

    3. These Stars are used as missiles by Angels who throw them at

    the Djinn who try and climb up to Heaven.4. The reference to bits of Heaven falling refer to the possibility of a

    piece of the solid Sky Dome falling to Earth.

    5. All of this is totally contrary to modern Science and is the sort of

    thing that a man like Mohammed may have imagined.

    6. These verses contain huge Scientific errors and prove that theKoran does not come from God.

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    Claim 39 Atmosphere characteristics

    Claim 39 The

    R t i Sk

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    Returning Sky

    [I swear] by heaven which

    returns.

    Surah 86:11 Harun Yahya

    This is said to be a reference to

    three features of the Earths

    atmosphere.

    Claim 39 The Returning Sky

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    Claim 39 The Returning Sky

    1. According to this claim, the Koran referred to certain specialcharacteristics of the Atmosphere 1400 years ago.

    2. These are the Troposphere facilitating condensation, the

    Ozonosphere blocking Cosmic Rays and the Ionosphere

    reflecting Radio Waves.

    3. These phenomena were only discovered in the C20th, but the

    Koran is said to refer to them 1400 years ago.

    4. Mohammed could not possibly have known these things

    unless God had told him.

    5. Some Muslims claim that such Scientific foreknowledge

    proves the Divine Authorship of the Koran

    Surah 86:11 Checking the translation

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    Surah 86:11Checking the translation

    Pickthall By the Heaven which giveth the returning rainYusuf Ali By the Firmament which returns (in its round)

    Hilali-Khan By the Sky (having rain clouds) which gives rain, again

    and again.

    Shakir I swear by the rain-giving Heavens

    Sher Ali By the cloud which gives rain repeatedly.Khalifa By the Sky that returns (the water).

    Arberry By Heaven of the returning rain.

    Palmer By the Heaven that sends back the rain!

    Rodwell I swear by the Heaven which accomplisheth its cycle.

    Sale By the Heaven which returneth [the rain]

    Irving By the sky with its cycle.

    Dawood By the Heaven with its recurring cycles.

    The Returning Sky

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    The Returning Sky

    This is what the Returning

    Sky really means.

    Rainfall in the Arabianpeninsula is seasonal.

    Summer and Autumn are

    very dry and then in the

    Winter, the rain returns.

    Claim 39 (Surah 86:11 ) - Conclusion

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    ( )

    1. This verse says nothing about the special properties ofvarious layers of the Earths atmosphere.

    2. Such an interpretation involves reading things into the words

    that are not there.

    3. The Returning Sky is merely a reference to seasonal

    rainfall which occurs in winter and spring in the Arabianpeninsula.

    4. There is nothing remarkable about this verse which is merely

    referring to the weather.

    5. Islamic Fundamentalists have distorted the meaning of this

    verse in a desperate attempt to prove their extreme Religiousbeliefs.

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    Claim 40 Atmospheric depletion

    Claim 40 Atmospheric Depletion by

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    Solar Wind

    Don't they see how

    We come to the land

    eroding it from itsextremities?

    Surah 21:44

    Claim 40 Atmospheric Depletion by

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    Solar Wind

    1. This verse is said to allude to the Earths Atmosphere being slowlystripped away by the Solar Wind.

    3. This discovery was only made in the C20th.

    5. Some Muslims will then say that Mohammed could not have known

    about this 1400 years ago.

    7. Then they will claim that such advanced Scientific knowledge in a

    1400 year old book can only be due to Divine Revelation.

    9. Therefore, it is argued, Islam must logically be true.

    Surah 21:44 Checking the translation 1

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    Surah 21:44 Checking the translation 1

    Pickthall Nay, but We gave these and their fathers ease until lifegrew long for them. See they not how we aim to the land, reducing it

    of its outlying parts? Can they then be the victors?

    Yusuf Ali Nay, We gave the good things of this life to these men and

    their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We

    gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders?Is it then they who will win?

    Hilali-Khan Nay, We gave the luxuries of this life to these men and

    their fathers until the period grew long for them. See they not that We

    gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders?

    Is it then they who will overcome.

    Shakir Nay, We gave provision to these and their fathers until life

    was prolonged to them. Do they not then see that We are visiting the

    land, curtailing it of its sides? Shall they then prevail?

    Surah 21:44 Checking the translation 2

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    Surah 21:44 Checking the translation 2

    Sher Ali Nay, we provided those and their fathers with the goodthings of this world till life grew long for them. Do they not see that we

    are visiting the land, reducing it from its outlying borders? Can they

    even then be the victors?

    Khalifa We have provided for these people and their ancestors, up

    until an old age. Do they not see that every day on earth brings themcloser to the end? Can they reverse this process?

    Arberry Nay, but Ourselves gave these and their fathers enjoyment

    of days, until their life had lasted long while upon them. What, do they

    not see how We come to the land, diminishing it in its extremities? Or

    are they the victors?

    Palmer Nay, but we have granted enjoyment to these men and to

    their fathers whilst life was prolonged. Do they not see that we come

    to the land and shorten its borders? Shall they then prevail?

    Surah 21:44 Checking the translation 3

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    Surah 21:44 Checking the translation 3

    Rodwell Yes! we have given these men and their fathers enjoymentsso long as their life lasted. What! see they not that we come to a land

    and straiten its borders Is it they who are the conquerors?

    Sale But we have permitted these [men] and their fathers to enjoy

    [worldly prosperity], so long as life was continued unto them. Do they

    not perceive that we come unto the land [of the unbelievers, and]straiten the borders thereof? Shall they therefore be the

    conquerors?

    Irving Rather We have let such persons and their forefathers enjoy

    themselves until life seems to last too long for them. Do they not see

    how We come to the earth to clip it off along its borders? Will they

    turn out to be the winners?

    Dawood Yet have we indulged them and their fathers so that they

    have lived too long.Can they not see how we invade their land and

    diminish its borders? Is it they who will triumph?

    Claim 40 Response

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    Claim 40 Response

    1. If you look at the verse in context, you will see that it is addressed toa group of people who have displeased God despite his past

    generosity to them.

    3. This Surah is thought to date from Mohammed's time in Medina and

    so it is likely a criticism of his enemies in Mecca, the Quraysh tribe.

    5. The reference to diminishing land most likely refers to the forces of

    Mohammed gradually encroaching of the territory of the Quraysh as

    they gradually close in on Mecca in the years leading up to its

    conquest in AD630.

    Mohammed flees Mecca (The Hijra)

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    In AD 622

    Mohammed

    was forced

    to flee from

    Mecca by

    his enemies& he sought

    refuge in the

    City of

    Medina.

    This is the starting point for the Islamic Calendar.

    Mohammed preaching to followers in

    M di

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    Medina

    Left: While in Medina, Mohammed

    gained a lot of followers & became the

    leader of the City.

    War soon erupted between Medina &the Quraysh who controlled Mecca.

    Surah 21:44 refers to how

    Mohammed's forces in Medina

    gradually gained the upper hand

    & conquered the outlying regions

    of Quraysh territory

    Mohammed returns to Mecca in triumph.

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    p

    In 630 AD

    Mohammedconquered

    the Quraysh

    and entered

    Mecca

    Claim 40 (Surah 21:44 ) - Conclusion

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    1. This verse says nothing about the Solar Wind or the Earthsatmosphere.

    3. The reference to land eroding refers to the way in which

    Mohammed's enemies in Mecca, the Quraysh gradually lost

    control of the outer parts of their territory to the Muslims ofMedina before their final defeat by Mohammed when he

    conquered Mecca in AD630.

    5. Interpreting this verse as an allusion to atmospheric

    depletion takes it totally out of context and it is\completenonsense.

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    Claim 41 Ozone layer depletion

    Claim 41 Ozone Layer depletion

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    Claim 41 Ozone Layer depletion

    Until, when he came to the

    rising of the sun, he found

    it rising on a people for

    whom we had provided no

    covering protection against

    the sun.

    Surah 18:90

    This reference to people not

    being protected is said torefer to the Ozone hole.

    Claim 41 Ozone Layer Depletion

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    1. This claim is really an alleged prophecy concerning a

    Scientific matter.

    3. Some Muslims claim that the Koran referred to the hole in the

    Ozone layer 1400 years ago.

    5. Believers in this claim say that Mohammed could not have

    predicted such things unless God told him about them via

    Divine Revelation.

    7. Supporters of this claim argue that such information in theKoran proves its Divine origin and the truth of their Religion.

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    Pickthall Then he followed a road till, when he reached the rising-

    place of the Sun

    Yusuf Ali Then followed he (another) way, until, when he came to

    the rising of the Sun

    Hilali-Khan Then he followed another way until, when he came to

    the rising place of the Sun Shakir Then he followed (another) course until when he reached the

    land of the rising of the Sun

    Sher Ali Then indeed he followed another way. until he reached the

    rising-place of the Sun

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